September 30, 2025 • 51 mins
In episode 39 of The Adaptive Mindset, Brett Gallant welcomes Laura Hoorweg, a Transformational Guide, Intuitive Coach, and Psychic Medium, as she shares her journey, including a life-changing out-of-body experience at the age of 15, and explores themes of resilience, intuition, and authentic living in a changing world.
Tune in for an inspiring discussion that promises to unlock strategies for thriving in a digital world.
TIMESTAMPS
[00:01:34] Out-of-body experience at 15.
[00:06:04] Healing journey through ayahuasca.
[00:10:47] Comfort vs. change in life.
[00:15:00] Life's challenges and reinvention.
[00:21:08] Helping people through transitions.
[00:22:11] Authentic self and career choices.
[00:29:31] Importance of self-care investment.
[00:30:24] Self-care for entrepreneurs.
[00:36:32] Traffic accident mediumship healing.
[00:39:25] Messages for others.
[00:46:12] Making your bed matters.
[00:48:46] Young minds and resilience.
QUOTES
- "We let fear drive our decisions and we let fear be in the driver's seat of our lives when it should be in the passenger seat." -Brett Gallant
- "You can't steer the rest of your life unless you're connected to who you really are." -Laura Hoorweg
- "If you don't take care of yourself, you're not going to be able to take care of anyone around you that you care about." -Laura Hoorweg
- "I always like to think of them as challenges, because I think challenges are what make us grow." -Laura Hoorweg
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Welcome to the Adaptive Mindset. I'm Brett Gallant, cybersecurity thoughtleader and founder of Adaptive Office Solutions. Here, we
don't just talk tech, we unlock the strategies, stories, andmindset shifts you need to stay secure, lead boldly, and
thrive in a digital world. Let's get started. Welcomeback to the Adaptive Mindset. I'm very pleased to have with
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me today, Laura Hoorweg Laura is a transformational guide,intuitive coach, and a psychic medium who's been called the
real deal. Laura has lived through loss,radical life change, and even open heart surgery,
and she's turned those experiences into a powerful mission, helpingsoul-led humans break through blocks, reconnect
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with their purpose, and rise stronger than ever. We'rediving into resilience today, intuition, and
what it really takes to live authentically in an ever changingworld. If you ever felt stuck, misaligned, or
like you've outgrown the life you're in, this is the conversation forSo tell
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our audience a little bit about yourself, Laura. Iknow one of the things I've read about you, you
had an out-of-body experience at just 15 years old. CanOh, wow. That was quite the moment. Yeah, it's pretty much everything shifted
for me at that moment. The way I looked at life, the way I look at death,the way I looked at how the world functions. And
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I was actually climbing rappelling and I was standing on thetop of a beautiful cliff looking out onto wilderness
up in northern Ontario and it was such a beautifulscene. It was nothing but lakes and
rocks and rivers and trees. And it was theI think what actually triggered it was the immense beauty that
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I was looking at. And what happened is all of a suddenI just felt this like a whoosh feeling. And all of a sudden I
was up in the sky and I was looking down onmy compadres and my climbing instructor sitting
on the cliff. And I'm like, wow, thisis pretty wild. And I'm way up in the sky. So I can see
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literally the song is coming to mind forI can see. Yeah, I got the song in my head
Yeah, I know. It's going to be funny. Yeah,so that I felt and I felt totally comfortable.
I just felt what a oneness with everything. Therewas no fear. I felt totally expanded and
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part of everything. Yet I still felt myself. Andjust as I was getting used to that feeling, all of a sudden that
whoosh came again and I found myself outsideof the earth. OK, looking down on the earth. So I'm
going to date myself here a little because I WhenI was a kid, it was when they first did all the moon landings when
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I was a little girl. And I remember theastronauts talking about looking down at the earth
and what an awesome experience thatwas. And I was suddenly having that experience. So it was like
incredible. And again, you know, I felt nofear. I felt totally, you know, taken care of
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and safe. And there was nothing. It was just aweinspiring. And I was I'll use another old phrase,
gobsmacked. I was just like, what is going on here?
And then just as that thought came into my mind, I felt that feelingagain, that whoosh. And all of a sudden, I found myself out
in the middle of the galaxies, like literally looking at ourown Milky Way galaxy. So I guess I was actually out in the universe because
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I was looking at all these different galaxies, includingour own. And I was just literally starting
to think, oh my God, what is next? And just asthat thought came to me, or that feeling came
to me, all of a sudden it was like a great big hand grabbed meand wham, back in my body. It
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was like, I always describe it as, it wasa feeling like trying to stuff a basketball into a Coke bottle. It
was like I was too much expanded. My spirit,my energy was too expanded to actually fit back into my
body. And actually it took three or four days forme to feel kind of actually back in my body. But
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what had happened in real, well in 3D time, not real time,but 3D time, is one of the instructors had
actually come, he got nervous, he thought I was too close tothe cliff, edge of the cliff, and he just grabbed the back
of my pants and yanked me back. And that's what broughtme back into my body. So that was pretty wild. It was
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And this happened, obviously, this happened in seconds, like,you know, it seemed minutes to me like it seemed very quite long.
But it obviously all happened in seconds, likeliterally seconds. So it was it was it was mind blowing. That's
And I've been trying to recreate that experience fordecades and I've never quite, I've gotten sort of
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close in some meditations and things that I've done, butSo when you say you've gotten close, what do you mean? How do you mean by
Go down that rabbit hole. Okay. As part of my healingexperience after my life partner
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suddenly passed away, I did a lot of things onmy healing journey. Because what people don't realize
is when you lose somebody very close to you, it brings upall the crap that you haven't dealt with in your life. So not only are
you dealing with all that grief for that person, you arebasically assaulted, I'll use the word assaulted, with everything
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that you haven't dealt with in your life. So it becomes a massive healingjourney. So as part of that, I actually went
to Peru to some shamanic healers andI did a three-week intensive ayahuasca journeys. I
did many, many ayahuasca journeys. Nowthat was very much psychedelic journey, but
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I had one that was very, very shamanic where Thespirit of ayahuasca who shows up in many forms one
is in the form of the crown or the maidenor and she also shows up in the form of a massive. Big
snake that's the way she showed herselfto me which was a little bit intimidating but she basically took
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me through a classic journey through the underworld. Sothat would be as close as I would say that I've ever
come to that same kind of experience. Butit was different in the sense that it was also It
wasn't a purely natural experience because it was, youknow, it was aided by the plant medicine. So yeah,
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That would be the closest. And so you've been tryingto relive this experience since that
Well, I haven't, let me,it's not a pointed mission, but I've always wanted to
re-experience it. And I was hoping through, severaldifferent things that I've done experientially that
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I could come close to that. But I neverhave. I have had some out of body experiences in
the dream time, which come closeto it as well. But it's the whole
thing about it was that I was fully awake. I was totallysober. I didn't have anything, any chemicals or drugs
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And that's why I'm saying I'm sure that it was fueled simplyby the immense beauty in the atmosphere that
So before let's get back, let's getdig into your story a little bit. I know like you
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have. I'm aware youyou had you walked away from a 30 year advertising career.
Well, what ended up happening is at that time, thenewspaper that was the advent that was this we're talking
about 12 years ago, and that was the advent of really when onlineadvertising came in and the newspaper business had been
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declining before that. But when that happened, itdeclined considerably. And the
atmosphere that I was working in became so toxic becausewhen business is great, usually the environment is
pretty easy to go. But when business gets bad, itgets really toxic and it got really, really toxic. I
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probably should have left five or sixyears before I did, but when you're making that
salary, when you have all those benefits, when you've got that seniority, allthose things, then you should leave and you don't. It
finally got to the point where they were offering, they'd offeredbuyout several times because of course they were also trying to slim
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down the number of employees. Ithink it was the third one or something that came along. I
pretty much figured that it was probably going to be the last chanceto get that golden handshake, and things had become so
bad that it was affecting my physicaland mental health, and I just knew that I had to get out of there. So that's why
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I left. I left on my own accord. They didn't like the factthat I left. They tried to convince me to stay. But I was at a point
where I just said, you know, writeSo many times we stay in places for comfort. Yes.
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Well, I think that's, you know, as human beings, we areso adverse to change, especially when
we're in a very feeling, very secure about wherewe are. And it really takes. What
it really takes is is that place or that thing or thatrelationship to get really bad, has to
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get really bad before we're willing to leave. And unfortunately,Well, I, I think it's that comfort level and, and some, and
what I've talked with other guests before is fear, fear,what could be on the other side of that. And we let fear drive our
decisions and we let fear be in the driver's seatof our lives when it should be in the passenger seat, when
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Well, yeah, I yeah, I'mI'm still have it in the passenger seat. So, OK, but
I'm with you. I agree. I'm OK. I'm making adecision. I'm putting the fear in the backseat, maybe in the
back, maybe in a trunk, actually, if you actuallyI don't think you can totally do that because What
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people forget to fear is there for a reason. OK,fear is fear is not just a nuisance and
a debilitating, but it is something that helps keeps ussafe and it helps us to activate our own
knowing. So. Ithink we'd be in trouble if we didn't have fear. It's how
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we manage fear and how we let it useYou should be using
fear to your advantage instead of letting yourself becontrolled by fear. And it's easily said, but
it's often not easily done. But themore you practice it, I think the better you can get at it. And I think the
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longer you're, I say thelonger your trip along the highway, I think
that often the easier that gets because you just get tothe point where you know that bad things actually
worse things are going to happen if you stay in that situation. Thenand then the fear of actually leaving it. I think that's where you
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Yeah. You do the math and you say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is this is an adding up. Soyou left that, and then
Okay, well, like I said, I had a golden parachute, so Ihad planned to take about six months off, so I did that. And
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then I figured that I was about 52 atthe time and I had all kinds of experience and
I thought that I would have no problem finding another job. So afterthe six months, I started looking for a new
position. in a related field in marketingor advertising. And unbeknownst to
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me, there was a huge ageism that was going on.
And I think it still goes on. I don't think it's quite to thesame degree it was about 12 years ago. But actually,
a very good headhunter uh enlightened methey're not supposed to because this kind of thing is against the law but
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she basically told me that all her clients in other words theemployers had already told her not even to
bother sending anybody that was over the age of 45 andi'm like oh well that's nice because i'm 52 at the
time and uh so i knew this was going to be aproblem so that again kind
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of threw all the balls back up in the air. Andjust as I was coming to this realization that I was going to have
a very difficult time securing a new position,my partner died suddenly. And it
was, I started looking for a new job again inJanuary and basically he passed away suddenly at
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the beginning of February. So then everything, I alwayssay my life imploded and exploded all at the same time. So
it was a very, very difficult time. And afterthat is when, like I said, everything happens
and all this stuff comes up for you. And then I went intomy intense healing journey and I did all
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That must have been painful to have all of that happen at thesame time, losing your partner. Yeah, it was.
It seems to be the course of my life. No,honestly, I think our lives tend
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to have what I call a cycle. I'm on probably a10 or 11 year cycle. Some are on shorter cycles and some are
on longer cycles. But if you pay attention andyou've been around for a while, you start seeing things
repeating themselves. And in my life, aboutevery 10 or 11 years, things happened to
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force me to kind of reinvent myself.
But this was definitely a total, a totalreinvention. Some of the other ones had been pretty
harsh, but not to the degree that this was. So this,I would say that that one was the the most difficult
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one because everything happened. Like usually with people,one or two areas of your life explode. Like
you've got personal, you've got family, you've got business, andyou've got relationships. So there's basically those four pillars of
your life. And usually with most people, onlyone or two of those pillars goes, let's just say, goes
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to shit. Ata time, okay? But what happened to me in
that particular surgeron, allpatooey at once, so it was very... That's what we call, and
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Yeah, that's what I was going to say. It is a shitshow, yes.
Oh, yeah. So, you know, and it's kind of like and thankGod that I had a bit of a financial cushion because
I was just I was gone and I needed to toto navigate stuff. that I didn't know how to
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navigate. So I went through a lot of things. I was in, Idon't know if you know who John of God was. He's a trans channel healer
in Brazil. I was there for about, I was only supposed tobe there for two weeks. I ended up there for
about six or eight weeks. And thenI came back and I was only home a very short period
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of time. And then I went to Peru with theAyahuasca thing. And then what
happened after Peru? I came back again. Oh, yes.
And I was trying to figure out what the heck I was going to do with mylife. And I decided I had gotten into yoga. That was
another thing I did, a healing journey. AndI decided, well, maybe, you know, I love yoga. Maybe I'll become a yoga
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teacher. And I thought, well, if I'm going to do this andcommit to it, I've got to do it quickly because I've got to get working again.
I'm running out of money. And so I decidedto I found out about a school in Costa
Rica and I did a month long intensive yogateacher training in in Costa Rica. And
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then I came back and I realized, well, I actually realized it when Iwas there, but I really realized it when I got home, that
I loved yoga and that yoga was always going to be a part ofmy life, but I wasn't meant to teach it. The whole
thing was actually part of my healing journey. Going through theteacher training was part of my healing journey. So I came back from
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that and then I decided that I had made Tima promise because Tim, my partner, had spent 20 years
in Hawaii and he loved Hawaii. So I tookhis ashes back to Hawaii. And while
I was there, there was a yoga thing going on.
So I did that as I kind of did acombined trip. But yeah, so
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there was a lot of things, a lot of things thatwent on in a row. And then after I came back and
it was about time, I think it was when was it in 20, aboutthe middle of 2015, I really got the
call to start my own business and start working, workingone on one with people and doing my spiritual
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counseling and intuitive coaching. Andthen the mediumship came in there afterwards. But
that's when I started my own practice. SoUm, how, so
you shifted your mindset along the way andbig time, like dealing with these transformational moments
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in your life. And now, nowyou're on the other side of it, but I like, I can imagine
it wouldn't be fair to say that you're still on the journeybecause we're all on the journey. Oh yeah, for sure. What,
like where you are now, what are some of themost moments that you're proud of in your day to day and the practice you
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have now that you're helping people and helping people with their,you know, with intuition and like, what, what are some of the big wins
Well, I always say that my main mission with my practice ishelping people make their lives work. And I see people
who are having personal problems, people who are having relationshipproblems, people who are in major transitions, whether
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that is a grieving transitionthrough a relationship and whether that's through death
or whether that's through divorce. Isee people, a lot of people going through major
transitions in their life, you know, changing Changingcareers, changing relationships, divorce, like
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I said, you know, having people passing away. Somepeople just going through major life transitions, changing
from one phase of life, transitioning from one phase oflife to another. You know, we go
through multiple transitions throughout our life just naturally.
and people who are all of a sudden awakening anddiscovering their spiritual side and they want to grow spiritually
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and they want to be connected to their authentic self. This isa huge part of my mission is connecting people with their authentic
self because you can't steer the rest ofyour life unless you're connected to who you really are
because otherwise we just end up wearing these masks or weend up doing What our parents told us to do
or what our society told us to do. I can't tell youthe amount of people, this is a good stark comparison
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so people can really get this. I have clients whospent multiple years, like years and years and years
and hundreds of thousands of dollars becoming doctorsor other professionals, okay? And then they finally finish
everything and then they get out and they start practicing and they go, ohmy God, I can't do this. I hate this. This is not what
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I want. Because the reason they went in at the first place wasusually their parents or society or their idea of,
You know, I want to have this job because I know I'm going to make a bunch ofmoney and I'm going to have a secure career and all that stuff. But
then when they actually do it, they realize that it's just soul suckingNo, it's not. It's not. It's not providing them with the
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I call it juice, you know, the energy andthe self-satisfaction that they thought it would. And
I've seen people walk just Literally walk away fromthese professions and decide to do something else you
know doctors nurses lawyers youknow people who spent a lot of time and a lot of money on
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their education and just realize that. Theycan't do it it wasn't for them in
the first place and you know i try to helppeople before they get to that point to
kind of make some but you know people come to me when they cometo me and. It's, you know, whatever
stage somebody's at and sometimes people just feel reallystuck and they don't know why they're stuck. Sometimes
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it's things that have happened to them in this life. Sometimes it's things thathave happened in past lives that they have no
knowledge of. And sometimes just having the knowledge ofwhat actually is holding you down from
a past life, just knowing what it is, can totally releaseyou. It's just amazing to see these transitions. Or
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I've had people in my coaching program who have mycoaching and mentoring program who have been a mess
when i first got together with him like they didn't know where theywere going they didn't know how to do it you know they were having you
know in some cases heavy duty emotional and insome cases, psychological issues. And we've
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worked together and all of a sudden they got clear, they realizedwhat they wanted to do. They just kind of jumped,
leaped from there because they got very clear about what itwas that they wanted to do. We worked on
tools. I always talk about arming people with a toolkit. Becausethat's one of our huge problems. So many people just
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don't have the tools. You know, all these things happen to themand they don't know how to have the tools to navigate the situation. And
I think that's one of the biggest things about me is I've been through a lot inmy own life, you know, starting in childhood. So
I've had to navigate a lot of these things myself so I can reallyhelp people. And there's a real difference between book
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If you can look somebody in the eye and say, hey, I knowwhat you're going through because I've been there. That is so powerful. It's
Yeah. I've had people come to me and actually I had a testimonial likethis and she said, you know, This
is kind of paraphrased, but basically what she said was onesession with me was worth more to her than three
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years of traditional therapy.
Like she got more out of an hour with me than she got outWow, that's really rewarding to
Yeah, that gives me my juice because it'sdifficult. It's difficult helping other people
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through their problems when you're having to deal with your own life and everything that's goingon in the world. You
need that, and that's what keeps me going, knowingthat I'm helping people to such a great degree in
so many ways. And some people, it's a greater or lesser, and I'mnot everybody's cup of tea. I always say that
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the universe will say, let's put it this way, if Icould help everyone, there'd only have to be one
It's, I love, I love a lot of what you just shared.
And I, I genuinely believe we're allput on this earth to help each other and become
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the 10 X of the enhanced version ofourselves so we can help people. Even with myself, I've
worked harder on myself than my job. And I,I've become, I've become person
that I know I can show up better for my wife, mychildren, my team, my community. But
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you're living it every day because you're getting the juice byhelping it. Now, like you said, you don't always get that. You're
not the cup of tea for everyone. But onaverage, you're helping so many people and helping them. And that one
testimonial, I love that. It'sWell, what I always tell people, whatever you're doing,
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well, because what helps me, if I'm having a bad dayor a bad week or something, I'm so lucky. I'll
just go to my website and I'll start scrolling throughall my testimonials because it reminds me
of why I'm doing this, right? Yeah,it's not always easy and right now it's difficult. It's
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more difficult because people are frightened. Alot of people are having financial issues. The
first thing that goes for people is self-care becausethey put all their money in food and
rent and mortgages and cars and all this stuff that they haveto. and they start neglecting themselves. But I
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always tell people, when things get tough, that'swhen you have to up your self-care, not reduce
it. And this is hard for a lot of people tounderstand, but it's totally, totally true that the
more challenging your life gets, theOh. Absolutely. It's
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the best investment. It's the best ROI ever. If youtake care of yourself, then you're going to be better
That's exactly the message that I give. Because I always say,if you don't take care of yourself, you're not going to be able to take care of
So Laura, I'm living proof of that. My, mycoach kept saying to me, Brett, you need to put your
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oxygen mask on. And after about the 50 millionthtime, I came to this decision day back
in October, 2023, I told my coach, I said, Dave, Idon't have time to go to the gym. And he said, Brett, you mean to tell me you
own your own business and you can't get to the gym. andthat was his way of telling me to have self-care. But
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I took that seriously, and I doubled down on self-care, andYeah, and so we, I
work with a lot of entrepreneurs and people, likeI'm in cybersecurity. I work with a lot of other, I
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stay connected with a lot of other business owners and businessowners. And I see this common thread and
this isn't judging, this is just more of an observation. Lastthing the busy entrepreneur does is take care of
themselves, typically. And they don'ttake that- Yeah, they don't take time for themselves. And
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then that suffers. For me, I know that because I'm on the otherside of it now. I'm still on my journey, but everything
has gotten better when I doubled down in self-care.
Well, yeah, because you're not going to be there for your customers. You're not going to bethere for your business. Being
an entrepreneur, it's not an easy thing.
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And you know, like, here's all I know right now.
Well, especially I went from one extreme to the other because I basically walkedaway from a six figure income with five months
paid vacation and all kinds of benefits and yada, yada,And then all of a sudden you're working for yourself. I tell you, you want to
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Yeah. Yeah. Because it's it allYeah. And so you're seeing a shift right now
where some people may be neglecting self-carefor other things. But the lesson I
think is like what you said, now is the time to doubledown and take care of yourself, especially when things where
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there's some uncertainty in the market and wherepeople are questioning, this is where you need it most. Because when you
take care of yourself, you can better handle all these transitionsand challenges. But
instead of problems, I like saying puzzles, because mostproblems can be solved. If you look at it as a puzzle, you can solve it.
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I always like to think of them as challenges, because I think challengesare what make us grow. I think
of it like Schoolhouse Earth. We're here to learn,and those challenges are what make us learn. When
things are all going well and everything's hunkydory, nobody's looking at anything. They're just enjoying the
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Yeah. I don't have to worry about it.
I don't have to look at myself. I don't have to look at the world. I don't haveto look at what I maybe could be doing better. It's
when the challenges come that we start makingchanges and we have to pivot and we have to Change the
way we're looking at things and maybe change the way we're doing things, youYeah it and and that's a hard truth
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sometimes for some of us to face andRecognize tell until we finally have that moment
like what I did decision day Yeah, and sometimesyou get the choice to have the decision day but other
times It's made for you. Yeah WhichSo you're a psychic medium, right? What is it
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actually like for you when you connect with someone on the other side? What'sThat's hard to describe, honestly. Yeah.
For me, some people actually hear voicesand things like that. It's
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more like feelings and images. Icall them almost like thought packets. Do you remember that old
Monty Python movie where the head flips open? Ialways think of it like the head flips open and they drop little thought
packets into my head. I know my brain and that'swhat it's like so all of a sudden and i know this stuff is
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not mine okay and so then i sharethat information now when it comes to the mediumship side
of things i look at mediumship there's different kindsof mediums. there's what's called an evidentiary medium
and they tend to be the ones you see on tv and stuff likethat they're just you know spouting facts and
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and stuff and and a lot of times their major umobjective is to convince people that there's life after death okay
yeah That's not why I started using mymediumship gift because I don't care if you believe in life after death
or not. It's up to you. But what what Imade the agreement with is I made the agreement with the people on
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the other side to deliver their messages andmy agreement with the people, the
living is to deliver those messages because they're healing tothem. Okay. There's so many situations. I'll
give you a quickie. This really illustrates it really well.
There was a young man who was killed in a traffic accident. Andbecause of the evidence at the scene, there was no, he was on
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a motorcycle and there was no skid marks. There was no nothing. Andhe drove right into a huge tree and he was killed
And because of the circumstances, you know,it's not blaming the police, but obvious circumstances, they
ruled it as a suicide because they thought he deliberately droveinto this tree in order to take his own life. Well, when he came
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through in our in our group session with Andactually, this is an interesting thing. None
of his family was at this session, but awoman who was a really good friend of his family was there, okay?
And she was being asked to be a messenger. This happens quite frequently.
Anyway, the real story, which he laid out for us, wasthat he had had a really bad cold. He'd taken
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a bunch of over-the-counter cold medications, andhe literally fell asleep at the wheel. That's why there is no skid
marks, no attempt to avoid the situation. He literallyfell asleep on his bike. He
made it very plain that he didn't intendto take his own life, but he also took responsibility that
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he knew he shouldn't have done what he did, because he knew he shouldn't have been drivingafter taking all those drugs. And
so that, it healed the entire family, becauseI can tell you, especially with young men in particular, there
were several friends of his and his younger brother whowere basically almost suicidal after
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this happened, okay? Because suicide tends tospread, it tends to be contagious, especially amongst young
people and particularly amongst young men. Andso this healed and his parents and all everybody around
him, they just couldn't cope with thefact that he had committed suicide. OK, because
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then all these questions like, why don't we see it? You know, we could havedone something, you know, all this guilt and remorse. There was all kinds
of horrible things going on in his family and friends. So.
this woman who was a friend of the family was able to take thisknowledge to them and it healed the entire family. Like
it was just, it was amazing. So this is what Ido. I deliver messages so that
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people can heal. Like I said, I don't careUm, but cause I've seen the healing happen and
the wonderful thing is, Mediumsare like antennas. We can't reach out and grab people. They have
to want to come to us. So we're just kind oflike an antenna. But it's interesting. So there's always
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often one or two people in the group. that don'tget messages directly for them. But
it's an interesting phenomenon because I tell you,nine times out of 10, that will be the person at the end
of the session who comes up to me and just goingcrazy because they've gotten so much out
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of all the messages that were delivered to other people. Insome ways, they almost get more than
Because that's their reaction, because they found somethingin every one of those messages that they could
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use. Otherpeople were so focused on their message and their person,
but the people who didn't get a message, they ended up gettingThat's what I love about coaching. You can notice, but
Yeah, and you know, that'sthe only thing I do in person. I have people host
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group mediumship sessions in their home. Allmy counseling and coaching I do online, because I actually,
I used to do some of it in person, but I actually founddoing it like this, like what we're doing, it allows me
to be in my, I can control the energy in myplace, They feel safe
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and calm because they can control the energy for them.
And I find the connection often is actually betteronline because of those reasons than it
is when I'm actually sitting across the table with somebody. Becauseyou're in an environment, usually you're in an environment
where you can't control what's going on around you. Andthe person, the client, is in an
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unfamiliar environment. So that often makes people moreclosed and more scared, you know,
more not willing to openup to the extent that they would be when they were
at home. So I actually, afterCOVID, I learned this through COVID because it
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was before COVID that I was doing in-person sessions andafter going through the experience of COVID, I just
went, no. The onlything I started doing again eventually was the mediumship sessions because
My guides were very specific that we should be doing thosebecause they're groups. You need that energy of that circle
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and you need that presence for thatwork. So that's the only thing I do in person now. The
only thing I don't like about it is it does limit because itdoes limit the fact that I can only do sessions,
mediumship sessions with my locals. Okay.
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In the, in the lower mainland where I live, um, becauseonline I have clients from all over the world, which is another cool
Like I meet everywhere. You, you get to interact withso many amazing people from all over
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How do people connect with you, Laura, if they're interested in finding out more?
Okay, well, the best way is you can start with my website, andIt's www.spiritspeaks2.me. Okay
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it's easy to remember i'm the best way if you have questions oryou wanna set up a session is just email me
and it's really simple it's laura atPerfect. Do you have a, are you on Instagram or LinkedIn?
Oh, I'm everywhere. Well, not everywhere. I'm allover Facebook. I have a Facebook, my profile page. I
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also have a spirit speaks to me groupon Facebook. I'm on Instagram. I'm
on, um, I do a little bit on X.
I'm just sort of getting into that. DidI miss something? Oh, I'm all over LinkedIn. You can find me on LinkedIn. Yeah,
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We'll have the links in the show notes. Iwant to ask you, I started doing this in the recent episodes,
Laura. I find this a little fun. RapidYou're not going to grade it, though. So just
first thing that comes to your mind, OK? OK. MorningYeah, that doesn't surprise me. It's awesome.
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A book that's a book that's impacted you the most on your spiritual path.
Authentic, okay. And a favorite placeThis has nothing to do with my healing journey, but it's
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I love the energy of Thailand, yeah. Or at leastwhen I was there. I think it's, it might've changed because it's
So you have the memory of what it, I have the memory of the energy there.
There you go. What's your go-to practice when life feelsOkay. If you could leave our listeners with
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Is people stop. They get, then that's when you get stuck.
And I don't care what, I always say this to my clients. I don't care if it's ababy step. I, and I don't care if that step
is simply getting out of bed and making your bed. There'ssomething I've learned actually. This is when I was in the midst of
my life exploding and imploding. Isaw a podcast of, um, I
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think he was a Navy general or colonel, and hiswhole talk was based on just make your
Oh, I've watched that. That's incredible. It's,Yes. And it sounds ridiculous, but
it's absolutely true. If that's all you getaccomplished in the day, if you get up and the first thing you
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do when you get up is you make your bed, it is, hasan amazing effect. Okay. It sounds
really simplistic, but it is. I wouldadd to, I would say to that, meditate first and
And then you want to make your bed and lie on your bed and meditate after.
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But those two things, I tell you, those two things, havehave changed my life and saved my meditation literally
like I can't say this like I love yoga and it's fantastic andit's healed my body okay I had a lot
of car accidents a lot of injuries Yogahealed my body, but everything else, okay, my
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emotions, my mental state, my everything, meditation,meditation, meditation, it's literally saved my life at various
And you accomplish that. And you go, oh, wow, I didn't thinkI could even get out of bed. But I got out of bed and I made
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Exactly. You know, that's all you get accomplished. You've already wonthe day. And not only that, there's something about looking
at a nice, neat, mad, made bed as opposedto a bed that's all everything's tossed around. Because when
you're in a in a state, usually your life isin turmoil. And if you're looking at your bed, unmade bed,
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all that does is mirror back to you the chaos in your life.
OK, I think this is where the psychological thing comes from. Butif you look at your nice, pristine, made bed,
organized bed, it tells your mind thatyou can actually make headway in your life or in your day,
even the day. I always tell people, you know, if things are superbad, Take one minute at a time. If
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they're bad, take one hour at a time. Ifthey're just kind of screwed up, take one day. You
I get it. Yeah. And the lesson here is breakit down in chunks. But most of all, no
Keep going. Because I tell you, eventually, thingswill get better. They just do. And see, this is why
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I think that young people are somuch more at risk for suicide
because they can't even conceive of the next day. Okay.
Literally. Okay. Teenagers can't even think, oh, well, there'stomorrow. They just start their minds. Literally, they're not developed
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They're not developed in it because your mind is developingall the way till you're about 25, which people don't realize. Okay. Yeah.
from about 13 to 25, yourbrain is developing as much as it did from zero
to one year old, and that's huge, like it's just huge.
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So this is why, they can't conceive thatSo Laura, it's been such a
pleasure to be here with you today. I wantto ask our audience, please take a moment to
share this episode with somebody in your network. WhatLaura has shared, you can share that with one to
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three people. you can help make an impact on some people,because Laura has laid out some really great gems on
mindset, resilience, and many other things.
And this message that Laura shared with us needs to be shared. Andplease reach out to her on her website, and
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all the other socials will be in the show notes. Laura, thankyou so much. It was a pleasure to get to meet you and know you. So
Exactly. Thanksfor tuning into the Adaptive Mindset. If you found value in today's episode,
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don't just talk tech, we unlock the strategies, stories, andmindset shifts you need to stay secure, lead boldly, and
thrive in a digital world. Let's get started. Welcomeback to the Adaptive Mindset. I'm very pleased to have with
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me today, Laura Hoorweg Laura is a transformational guide,intuitive coach, and a psychic medium who's been called the
real deal. Laura has lived through loss,radical life change, and even open heart surgery,
and she's turned those experiences into a powerful mission, helpingsoul-led humans break through blocks, reconnect
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with their purpose, and rise stronger than ever. We'rediving into resilience today, intuition, and
what it really takes to live authentically in an ever changingworld. If you ever felt stuck, misaligned, or
like you've outgrown the life you're in, this is the conversation forSo tell
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our audience a little bit about yourself, Laura. Iknow one of the things I've read about you, you
had an out-of-body experience at just 15 years old. CanOh, wow. That was quite the moment. Yeah, it's pretty much everything shifted
for me at that moment. The way I looked at life, the way I look at death,the way I looked at how the world functions. And
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I was actually climbing rappelling and I was standing on thetop of a beautiful cliff looking out onto wilderness
up in northern Ontario and it was such a beautifulscene. It was nothing but lakes and
rocks and rivers and trees. And it was theI think what actually triggered it was the immense beauty that
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I was looking at. And what happened is all of a suddenI just felt this like a whoosh feeling. And all of a sudden I
was up in the sky and I was looking down onmy compadres and my climbing instructor sitting
on the cliff. And I'm like, wow, thisis pretty wild. And I'm way up in the sky. So I can see
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literally the song is coming to mind forI can see. Yeah, I got the song in my head
Yeah, I know. It's going to be funny. Yeah,so that I felt and I felt totally comfortable.
I just felt what a oneness with everything. Therewas no fear. I felt totally expanded and
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part of everything. Yet I still felt myself. Andjust as I was getting used to that feeling, all of a sudden that
whoosh came again and I found myself outsideof the earth. OK, looking down on the earth. So I'm
going to date myself here a little because I WhenI was a kid, it was when they first did all the moon landings when
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I was a little girl. And I remember theastronauts talking about looking down at the earth
and what an awesome experience thatwas. And I was suddenly having that experience. So it was like
incredible. And again, you know, I felt nofear. I felt totally, you know, taken care of
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and safe. And there was nothing. It was just aweinspiring. And I was I'll use another old phrase,
gobsmacked. I was just like, what is going on here?
And then just as that thought came into my mind, I felt that feelingagain, that whoosh. And all of a sudden, I found myself out
in the middle of the galaxies, like literally looking at ourown Milky Way galaxy. So I guess I was actually out in the universe because
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I was looking at all these different galaxies, includingour own. And I was just literally starting
to think, oh my God, what is next? And just asthat thought came to me, or that feeling came
to me, all of a sudden it was like a great big hand grabbed meand wham, back in my body. It
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was like, I always describe it as, it wasa feeling like trying to stuff a basketball into a Coke bottle. It
was like I was too much expanded. My spirit,my energy was too expanded to actually fit back into my
body. And actually it took three or four days forme to feel kind of actually back in my body. But
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what had happened in real, well in 3D time, not real time,but 3D time, is one of the instructors had
actually come, he got nervous, he thought I was too close tothe cliff, edge of the cliff, and he just grabbed the back
of my pants and yanked me back. And that's what broughtme back into my body. So that was pretty wild. It was
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And this happened, obviously, this happened in seconds, like,you know, it seemed minutes to me like it seemed very quite long.
But it obviously all happened in seconds, likeliterally seconds. So it was it was it was mind blowing. That's
And I've been trying to recreate that experience fordecades and I've never quite, I've gotten sort of
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close in some meditations and things that I've done, butSo when you say you've gotten close, what do you mean? How do you mean by
Go down that rabbit hole. Okay. As part of my healingexperience after my life partner
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suddenly passed away, I did a lot of things onmy healing journey. Because what people don't realize
is when you lose somebody very close to you, it brings upall the crap that you haven't dealt with in your life. So not only are
you dealing with all that grief for that person, you arebasically assaulted, I'll use the word assaulted, with everything
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that you haven't dealt with in your life. So it becomes a massive healingjourney. So as part of that, I actually went
to Peru to some shamanic healers andI did a three-week intensive ayahuasca journeys. I
did many, many ayahuasca journeys. Nowthat was very much psychedelic journey, but
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I had one that was very, very shamanic where Thespirit of ayahuasca who shows up in many forms one
is in the form of the crown or the maidenor and she also shows up in the form of a massive. Big
snake that's the way she showed herselfto me which was a little bit intimidating but she basically took
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me through a classic journey through the underworld. Sothat would be as close as I would say that I've ever
come to that same kind of experience. Butit was different in the sense that it was also It
wasn't a purely natural experience because it was, youknow, it was aided by the plant medicine. So yeah,
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That would be the closest. And so you've been tryingto relive this experience since that
Well, I haven't, let me,it's not a pointed mission, but I've always wanted to
re-experience it. And I was hoping through, severaldifferent things that I've done experientially that
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I could come close to that. But I neverhave. I have had some out of body experiences in
the dream time, which come closeto it as well. But it's the whole
thing about it was that I was fully awake. I was totallysober. I didn't have anything, any chemicals or drugs
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And that's why I'm saying I'm sure that it was fueled simplyby the immense beauty in the atmosphere that
So before let's get back, let's getdig into your story a little bit. I know like you
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have. I'm aware youyou had you walked away from a 30 year advertising career.
Well, what ended up happening is at that time, thenewspaper that was the advent that was this we're talking
about 12 years ago, and that was the advent of really when onlineadvertising came in and the newspaper business had been
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declining before that. But when that happened, itdeclined considerably. And the
atmosphere that I was working in became so toxic becausewhen business is great, usually the environment is
pretty easy to go. But when business gets bad, itgets really toxic and it got really, really toxic. I
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probably should have left five or sixyears before I did, but when you're making that
salary, when you have all those benefits, when you've got that seniority, allthose things, then you should leave and you don't. It
finally got to the point where they were offering, they'd offeredbuyout several times because of course they were also trying to slim
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down the number of employees. Ithink it was the third one or something that came along. I
pretty much figured that it was probably going to be the last chanceto get that golden handshake, and things had become so
bad that it was affecting my physicaland mental health, and I just knew that I had to get out of there. So that's why
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I left. I left on my own accord. They didn't like the factthat I left. They tried to convince me to stay. But I was at a point
where I just said, you know, writeSo many times we stay in places for comfort. Yes.
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Well, I think that's, you know, as human beings, we areso adverse to change, especially when
we're in a very feeling, very secure about wherewe are. And it really takes. What
it really takes is is that place or that thing or thatrelationship to get really bad, has to
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get really bad before we're willing to leave. And unfortunately,Well, I, I think it's that comfort level and, and some, and
what I've talked with other guests before is fear, fear,what could be on the other side of that. And we let fear drive our
decisions and we let fear be in the driver's seatof our lives when it should be in the passenger seat, when
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Well, yeah, I yeah, I'mI'm still have it in the passenger seat. So, OK, but
I'm with you. I agree. I'm OK. I'm making adecision. I'm putting the fear in the backseat, maybe in the
back, maybe in a trunk, actually, if you actuallyI don't think you can totally do that because What
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people forget to fear is there for a reason. OK,fear is fear is not just a nuisance and
a debilitating, but it is something that helps keeps ussafe and it helps us to activate our own
knowing. So. Ithink we'd be in trouble if we didn't have fear. It's how
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we manage fear and how we let it useYou should be using
fear to your advantage instead of letting yourself becontrolled by fear. And it's easily said, but
it's often not easily done. But themore you practice it, I think the better you can get at it. And I think the
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longer you're, I say thelonger your trip along the highway, I think
that often the easier that gets because you just get tothe point where you know that bad things actually
worse things are going to happen if you stay in that situation. Thenand then the fear of actually leaving it. I think that's where you
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Yeah. You do the math and you say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is this is an adding up. Soyou left that, and then
Okay, well, like I said, I had a golden parachute, so Ihad planned to take about six months off, so I did that. And
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then I figured that I was about 52 atthe time and I had all kinds of experience and
I thought that I would have no problem finding another job. So afterthe six months, I started looking for a new
position. in a related field in marketingor advertising. And unbeknownst to
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me, there was a huge ageism that was going on.
And I think it still goes on. I don't think it's quite to thesame degree it was about 12 years ago. But actually,
a very good headhunter uh enlightened methey're not supposed to because this kind of thing is against the law but
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she basically told me that all her clients in other words theemployers had already told her not even to
bother sending anybody that was over the age of 45 andi'm like oh well that's nice because i'm 52 at the
time and uh so i knew this was going to be aproblem so that again kind
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of threw all the balls back up in the air. Andjust as I was coming to this realization that I was going to have
a very difficult time securing a new position,my partner died suddenly. And it
was, I started looking for a new job again inJanuary and basically he passed away suddenly at
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the beginning of February. So then everything, I alwayssay my life imploded and exploded all at the same time. So
it was a very, very difficult time. And afterthat is when, like I said, everything happens
and all this stuff comes up for you. And then I went intomy intense healing journey and I did all
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That must have been painful to have all of that happen at thesame time, losing your partner. Yeah, it was.
It seems to be the course of my life. No,honestly, I think our lives tend
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to have what I call a cycle. I'm on probably a10 or 11 year cycle. Some are on shorter cycles and some are
on longer cycles. But if you pay attention andyou've been around for a while, you start seeing things
repeating themselves. And in my life, aboutevery 10 or 11 years, things happened to
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force me to kind of reinvent myself.
But this was definitely a total, a totalreinvention. Some of the other ones had been pretty
harsh, but not to the degree that this was. So this,I would say that that one was the the most difficult
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one because everything happened. Like usually with people,one or two areas of your life explode. Like
you've got personal, you've got family, you've got business, andyou've got relationships. So there's basically those four pillars of
your life. And usually with most people, onlyone or two of those pillars goes, let's just say, goes
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to shit. Ata time, okay? But what happened to me in
that particular surgeron, allpatooey at once, so it was very... That's what we call, and
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Yeah, that's what I was going to say. It is a shitshow, yes.
Oh, yeah. So, you know, and it's kind of like and thankGod that I had a bit of a financial cushion because
I was just I was gone and I needed to toto navigate stuff. that I didn't know how to
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navigate. So I went through a lot of things. I was in, Idon't know if you know who John of God was. He's a trans channel healer
in Brazil. I was there for about, I was only supposed tobe there for two weeks. I ended up there for
about six or eight weeks. And thenI came back and I was only home a very short period
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of time. And then I went to Peru with theAyahuasca thing. And then what
happened after Peru? I came back again. Oh, yes.
And I was trying to figure out what the heck I was going to do with mylife. And I decided I had gotten into yoga. That was
another thing I did, a healing journey. AndI decided, well, maybe, you know, I love yoga. Maybe I'll become a yoga
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teacher. And I thought, well, if I'm going to do this andcommit to it, I've got to do it quickly because I've got to get working again.
I'm running out of money. And so I decidedto I found out about a school in Costa
Rica and I did a month long intensive yogateacher training in in Costa Rica. And
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then I came back and I realized, well, I actually realized it when Iwas there, but I really realized it when I got home, that
I loved yoga and that yoga was always going to be a part ofmy life, but I wasn't meant to teach it. The whole
thing was actually part of my healing journey. Going through theteacher training was part of my healing journey. So I came back from
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that and then I decided that I had made Tima promise because Tim, my partner, had spent 20 years
in Hawaii and he loved Hawaii. So I tookhis ashes back to Hawaii. And while
I was there, there was a yoga thing going on.
So I did that as I kind of did acombined trip. But yeah, so
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there was a lot of things, a lot of things thatwent on in a row. And then after I came back and
it was about time, I think it was when was it in 20, aboutthe middle of 2015, I really got the
call to start my own business and start working, workingone on one with people and doing my spiritual
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counseling and intuitive coaching. Andthen the mediumship came in there afterwards. But
that's when I started my own practice. SoUm, how, so
you shifted your mindset along the way andbig time, like dealing with these transformational moments
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in your life. And now, nowyou're on the other side of it, but I like, I can imagine
it wouldn't be fair to say that you're still on the journeybecause we're all on the journey. Oh yeah, for sure. What,
like where you are now, what are some of themost moments that you're proud of in your day to day and the practice you
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have now that you're helping people and helping people with their,you know, with intuition and like, what, what are some of the big wins
Well, I always say that my main mission with my practice ishelping people make their lives work. And I see people
who are having personal problems, people who are having relationshipproblems, people who are in major transitions, whether
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that is a grieving transitionthrough a relationship and whether that's through death
or whether that's through divorce. Isee people, a lot of people going through major
transitions in their life, you know, changing Changingcareers, changing relationships, divorce, like
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I said, you know, having people passing away. Somepeople just going through major life transitions, changing
from one phase of life, transitioning from one phase oflife to another. You know, we go
through multiple transitions throughout our life just naturally.
and people who are all of a sudden awakening anddiscovering their spiritual side and they want to grow spiritually
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and they want to be connected to their authentic self. This isa huge part of my mission is connecting people with their authentic
self because you can't steer the rest ofyour life unless you're connected to who you really are
because otherwise we just end up wearing these masks or weend up doing What our parents told us to do
or what our society told us to do. I can't tell youthe amount of people, this is a good stark comparison
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so people can really get this. I have clients whospent multiple years, like years and years and years
and hundreds of thousands of dollars becoming doctorsor other professionals, okay? And then they finally finish
everything and then they get out and they start practicing and they go, ohmy God, I can't do this. I hate this. This is not what
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I want. Because the reason they went in at the first place wasusually their parents or society or their idea of,
You know, I want to have this job because I know I'm going to make a bunch ofmoney and I'm going to have a secure career and all that stuff. But
then when they actually do it, they realize that it's just soul suckingNo, it's not. It's not. It's not providing them with the
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I call it juice, you know, the energy andthe self-satisfaction that they thought it would. And
I've seen people walk just Literally walk away fromthese professions and decide to do something else you
know doctors nurses lawyers youknow people who spent a lot of time and a lot of money on
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their education and just realize that. Theycan't do it it wasn't for them in
the first place and you know i try to helppeople before they get to that point to
kind of make some but you know people come to me when they cometo me and. It's, you know, whatever
stage somebody's at and sometimes people just feel reallystuck and they don't know why they're stuck. Sometimes
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it's things that have happened to them in this life. Sometimes it's things thathave happened in past lives that they have no
knowledge of. And sometimes just having the knowledge ofwhat actually is holding you down from
a past life, just knowing what it is, can totally releaseyou. It's just amazing to see these transitions. Or
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I've had people in my coaching program who have mycoaching and mentoring program who have been a mess
when i first got together with him like they didn't know where theywere going they didn't know how to do it you know they were having you
know in some cases heavy duty emotional and insome cases, psychological issues. And we've
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worked together and all of a sudden they got clear, they realizedwhat they wanted to do. They just kind of jumped,
leaped from there because they got very clear about what itwas that they wanted to do. We worked on
tools. I always talk about arming people with a toolkit. Becausethat's one of our huge problems. So many people just
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don't have the tools. You know, all these things happen to themand they don't know how to have the tools to navigate the situation. And
I think that's one of the biggest things about me is I've been through a lot inmy own life, you know, starting in childhood. So
I've had to navigate a lot of these things myself so I can reallyhelp people. And there's a real difference between book
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If you can look somebody in the eye and say, hey, I knowwhat you're going through because I've been there. That is so powerful. It's
Yeah. I've had people come to me and actually I had a testimonial likethis and she said, you know, This
is kind of paraphrased, but basically what she said was onesession with me was worth more to her than three
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years of traditional therapy.
Like she got more out of an hour with me than she got outWow, that's really rewarding to
Yeah, that gives me my juice because it'sdifficult. It's difficult helping other people
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through their problems when you're having to deal with your own life and everything that's goingon in the world. You
need that, and that's what keeps me going, knowingthat I'm helping people to such a great degree in
so many ways. And some people, it's a greater or lesser, and I'mnot everybody's cup of tea. I always say that
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the universe will say, let's put it this way, if Icould help everyone, there'd only have to be one
It's, I love, I love a lot of what you just shared.
And I, I genuinely believe we're allput on this earth to help each other and become
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the 10 X of the enhanced version ofourselves so we can help people. Even with myself, I've
worked harder on myself than my job. And I,I've become, I've become person
that I know I can show up better for my wife, mychildren, my team, my community. But
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you're living it every day because you're getting the juice byhelping it. Now, like you said, you don't always get that. You're
not the cup of tea for everyone. But onaverage, you're helping so many people and helping them. And that one
testimonial, I love that. It'sWell, what I always tell people, whatever you're doing,
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well, because what helps me, if I'm having a bad dayor a bad week or something, I'm so lucky. I'll
just go to my website and I'll start scrolling throughall my testimonials because it reminds me
of why I'm doing this, right? Yeah,it's not always easy and right now it's difficult. It's
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more difficult because people are frightened. Alot of people are having financial issues. The
first thing that goes for people is self-care becausethey put all their money in food and
rent and mortgages and cars and all this stuff that they haveto. and they start neglecting themselves. But I
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always tell people, when things get tough, that'swhen you have to up your self-care, not reduce
it. And this is hard for a lot of people tounderstand, but it's totally, totally true that the
more challenging your life gets, theOh. Absolutely. It's
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the best investment. It's the best ROI ever. If youtake care of yourself, then you're going to be better
That's exactly the message that I give. Because I always say,if you don't take care of yourself, you're not going to be able to take care of
So Laura, I'm living proof of that. My, mycoach kept saying to me, Brett, you need to put your
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oxygen mask on. And after about the 50 millionthtime, I came to this decision day back
in October, 2023, I told my coach, I said, Dave, Idon't have time to go to the gym. And he said, Brett, you mean to tell me you
own your own business and you can't get to the gym. andthat was his way of telling me to have self-care. But
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I took that seriously, and I doubled down on self-care, andYeah, and so we, I
work with a lot of entrepreneurs and people, likeI'm in cybersecurity. I work with a lot of other, I
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stay connected with a lot of other business owners and businessowners. And I see this common thread and
this isn't judging, this is just more of an observation. Lastthing the busy entrepreneur does is take care of
themselves, typically. And they don'ttake that- Yeah, they don't take time for themselves. And
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then that suffers. For me, I know that because I'm on the otherside of it now. I'm still on my journey, but everything
has gotten better when I doubled down in self-care.
Well, yeah, because you're not going to be there for your customers. You're not going to bethere for your business. Being
an entrepreneur, it's not an easy thing.
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And you know, like, here's all I know right now.
Well, especially I went from one extreme to the other because I basically walkedaway from a six figure income with five months
paid vacation and all kinds of benefits and yada, yada,And then all of a sudden you're working for yourself. I tell you, you want to
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Yeah. Yeah. Because it's it allYeah. And so you're seeing a shift right now
where some people may be neglecting self-carefor other things. But the lesson I
think is like what you said, now is the time to doubledown and take care of yourself, especially when things where
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there's some uncertainty in the market and wherepeople are questioning, this is where you need it most. Because when you
take care of yourself, you can better handle all these transitionsand challenges. But
instead of problems, I like saying puzzles, because mostproblems can be solved. If you look at it as a puzzle, you can solve it.
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I always like to think of them as challenges, because I think challengesare what make us grow. I think
of it like Schoolhouse Earth. We're here to learn,and those challenges are what make us learn. When
things are all going well and everything's hunkydory, nobody's looking at anything. They're just enjoying the
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Yeah. I don't have to worry about it.
I don't have to look at myself. I don't have to look at the world. I don't haveto look at what I maybe could be doing better. It's
when the challenges come that we start makingchanges and we have to pivot and we have to Change the
way we're looking at things and maybe change the way we're doing things, youYeah it and and that's a hard truth
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sometimes for some of us to face andRecognize tell until we finally have that moment
like what I did decision day Yeah, and sometimesyou get the choice to have the decision day but other
times It's made for you. Yeah WhichSo you're a psychic medium, right? What is it
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actually like for you when you connect with someone on the other side? What'sThat's hard to describe, honestly. Yeah.
For me, some people actually hear voicesand things like that. It's
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more like feelings and images. Icall them almost like thought packets. Do you remember that old
Monty Python movie where the head flips open? Ialways think of it like the head flips open and they drop little thought
packets into my head. I know my brain and that'swhat it's like so all of a sudden and i know this stuff is
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not mine okay and so then i sharethat information now when it comes to the mediumship side
of things i look at mediumship there's different kindsof mediums. there's what's called an evidentiary medium
and they tend to be the ones you see on tv and stuff likethat they're just you know spouting facts and
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and stuff and and a lot of times their major umobjective is to convince people that there's life after death okay
yeah That's not why I started using mymediumship gift because I don't care if you believe in life after death
or not. It's up to you. But what what Imade the agreement with is I made the agreement with the people on
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the other side to deliver their messages andmy agreement with the people, the
living is to deliver those messages because they're healing tothem. Okay. There's so many situations. I'll
give you a quickie. This really illustrates it really well.
There was a young man who was killed in a traffic accident. Andbecause of the evidence at the scene, there was no, he was on
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a motorcycle and there was no skid marks. There was no nothing. Andhe drove right into a huge tree and he was killed
And because of the circumstances, you know,it's not blaming the police, but obvious circumstances, they
ruled it as a suicide because they thought he deliberately droveinto this tree in order to take his own life. Well, when he came
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through in our in our group session with Andactually, this is an interesting thing. None
of his family was at this session, but awoman who was a really good friend of his family was there, okay?
And she was being asked to be a messenger. This happens quite frequently.
Anyway, the real story, which he laid out for us, wasthat he had had a really bad cold. He'd taken
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a bunch of over-the-counter cold medications, andhe literally fell asleep at the wheel. That's why there is no skid
marks, no attempt to avoid the situation. He literallyfell asleep on his bike. He
made it very plain that he didn't intendto take his own life, but he also took responsibility that
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he knew he shouldn't have done what he did, because he knew he shouldn't have been drivingafter taking all those drugs. And
so that, it healed the entire family, becauseI can tell you, especially with young men in particular, there
were several friends of his and his younger brother whowere basically almost suicidal after
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this happened, okay? Because suicide tends tospread, it tends to be contagious, especially amongst young
people and particularly amongst young men. Andso this healed and his parents and all everybody around
him, they just couldn't cope with thefact that he had committed suicide. OK, because
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then all these questions like, why don't we see it? You know, we could havedone something, you know, all this guilt and remorse. There was all kinds
of horrible things going on in his family and friends. So.
this woman who was a friend of the family was able to take thisknowledge to them and it healed the entire family. Like
it was just, it was amazing. So this is what Ido. I deliver messages so that
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people can heal. Like I said, I don't careUm, but cause I've seen the healing happen and
the wonderful thing is, Mediumsare like antennas. We can't reach out and grab people. They have
to want to come to us. So we're just kind oflike an antenna. But it's interesting. So there's always
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often one or two people in the group. that don'tget messages directly for them. But
it's an interesting phenomenon because I tell you,nine times out of 10, that will be the person at the end
of the session who comes up to me and just goingcrazy because they've gotten so much out
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of all the messages that were delivered to other people. Insome ways, they almost get more than
Because that's their reaction, because they found somethingin every one of those messages that they could
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use. Otherpeople were so focused on their message and their person,
but the people who didn't get a message, they ended up gettingThat's what I love about coaching. You can notice, but
Yeah, and you know, that'sthe only thing I do in person. I have people host
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group mediumship sessions in their home. Allmy counseling and coaching I do online, because I actually,
I used to do some of it in person, but I actually founddoing it like this, like what we're doing, it allows me
to be in my, I can control the energy in myplace, They feel safe
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and calm because they can control the energy for them.
And I find the connection often is actually betteronline because of those reasons than it
is when I'm actually sitting across the table with somebody. Becauseyou're in an environment, usually you're in an environment
where you can't control what's going on around you. Andthe person, the client, is in an
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unfamiliar environment. So that often makes people moreclosed and more scared, you know,
more not willing to openup to the extent that they would be when they were
at home. So I actually, afterCOVID, I learned this through COVID because it
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was before COVID that I was doing in-person sessions andafter going through the experience of COVID, I just
went, no. The onlything I started doing again eventually was the mediumship sessions because
My guides were very specific that we should be doing thosebecause they're groups. You need that energy of that circle
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and you need that presence for thatwork. So that's the only thing I do in person now. The
only thing I don't like about it is it does limit because itdoes limit the fact that I can only do sessions,
mediumship sessions with my locals. Okay.
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In the, in the lower mainland where I live, um, becauseonline I have clients from all over the world, which is another cool
Like I meet everywhere. You, you get to interact withso many amazing people from all over
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How do people connect with you, Laura, if they're interested in finding out more?
Okay, well, the best way is you can start with my website, andIt's www.spiritspeaks2.me. Okay
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it's easy to remember i'm the best way if you have questions oryou wanna set up a session is just email me
and it's really simple it's laura atPerfect. Do you have a, are you on Instagram or LinkedIn?
Oh, I'm everywhere. Well, not everywhere. I'm allover Facebook. I have a Facebook, my profile page. I
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also have a spirit speaks to me groupon Facebook. I'm on Instagram. I'm
on, um, I do a little bit on X.
I'm just sort of getting into that. DidI miss something? Oh, I'm all over LinkedIn. You can find me on LinkedIn. Yeah,
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We'll have the links in the show notes. Iwant to ask you, I started doing this in the recent episodes,
Laura. I find this a little fun. RapidYou're not going to grade it, though. So just
first thing that comes to your mind, OK? OK. MorningYeah, that doesn't surprise me. It's awesome.
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A book that's a book that's impacted you the most on your spiritual path.
Authentic, okay. And a favorite placeThis has nothing to do with my healing journey, but it's
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I love the energy of Thailand, yeah. Or at leastwhen I was there. I think it's, it might've changed because it's
So you have the memory of what it, I have the memory of the energy there.
There you go. What's your go-to practice when life feelsOkay. If you could leave our listeners with
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Is people stop. They get, then that's when you get stuck.
And I don't care what, I always say this to my clients. I don't care if it's ababy step. I, and I don't care if that step
is simply getting out of bed and making your bed. There'ssomething I've learned actually. This is when I was in the midst of
my life exploding and imploding. Isaw a podcast of, um, I
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think he was a Navy general or colonel, and hiswhole talk was based on just make your
Oh, I've watched that. That's incredible. It's,Yes. And it sounds ridiculous, but
it's absolutely true. If that's all you getaccomplished in the day, if you get up and the first thing you
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do when you get up is you make your bed, it is, hasan amazing effect. Okay. It sounds
really simplistic, but it is. I wouldadd to, I would say to that, meditate first and
And then you want to make your bed and lie on your bed and meditate after.
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But those two things, I tell you, those two things, havehave changed my life and saved my meditation literally
like I can't say this like I love yoga and it's fantastic andit's healed my body okay I had a lot
of car accidents a lot of injuries Yogahealed my body, but everything else, okay, my
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emotions, my mental state, my everything, meditation,meditation, meditation, it's literally saved my life at various
And you accomplish that. And you go, oh, wow, I didn't thinkI could even get out of bed. But I got out of bed and I made
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Exactly. You know, that's all you get accomplished. You've already wonthe day. And not only that, there's something about looking
at a nice, neat, mad, made bed as opposedto a bed that's all everything's tossed around. Because when
you're in a in a state, usually your life isin turmoil. And if you're looking at your bed, unmade bed,
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all that does is mirror back to you the chaos in your life.
OK, I think this is where the psychological thing comes from. Butif you look at your nice, pristine, made bed,
organized bed, it tells your mind thatyou can actually make headway in your life or in your day,
even the day. I always tell people, you know, if things are superbad, Take one minute at a time. If
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they're bad, take one hour at a time. Ifthey're just kind of screwed up, take one day. You
I get it. Yeah. And the lesson here is breakit down in chunks. But most of all, no
Keep going. Because I tell you, eventually, thingswill get better. They just do. And see, this is why
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I think that young people are somuch more at risk for suicide
because they can't even conceive of the next day. Okay.
Literally. Okay. Teenagers can't even think, oh, well, there'stomorrow. They just start their minds. Literally, they're not developed
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They're not developed in it because your mind is developingall the way till you're about 25, which people don't realize. Okay. Yeah.
from about 13 to 25, yourbrain is developing as much as it did from zero
to one year old, and that's huge, like it's just huge.
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So this is why, they can't conceive thatSo Laura, it's been such a
pleasure to be here with you today. I wantto ask our audience, please take a moment to
share this episode with somebody in your network. WhatLaura has shared, you can share that with one to
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three people. you can help make an impact on some people,because Laura has laid out some really great gems on
mindset, resilience, and many other things.
And this message that Laura shared with us needs to be shared. Andplease reach out to her on her website, and
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all the other socials will be in the show notes. Laura, thankyou so much. It was a pleasure to get to meet you and know you. So
Exactly. Thanksfor tuning into the Adaptive Mindset. If you found value in today's episode,
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