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March 23, 2026 49 mins

Most MSP owners who struggle with sales performance aren't dealing with a bad salesperson - they're dealing with no system. In this roundtable, Josh Peterson and Gary Boyle respond to a real listener email from an MSP owner who has tolerated five years of inconsistent results from a salesperson he's afraid to hold accountable. The diagnosis: this isn't a sales problem. It's a leadership problem wearing a personnel costume.

🎙 What We Cover in This Episode

  • Why no quota means no sales role - not a flexible arrangement
  • How the owner's vision must precede the salesperson's target
  • The two-quota framework: activity quota and results quota
  • What base pay is actually purchasing - and why most MSP owners have it backwards
  • How to interview a salesperson to reveal whether they're metrics-driven before you hire them
  • What to do when the horse is already out of the barn
  • Why accountability is clarity, not punishment - and how to introduce structure without blowing up the relationship

👤 Your Hosts

Josh Peterson - CEO, Bering McKinley

Gary Boyle - Partner for Strategy & Business Development, Bering McKinley

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📝 Credits

Host: Josh Peterson

Co-Host: Gary Boyle

Producer: Bering McKinley

Episode: #91 - No Quota, No Sales Role: The MSP Sales System Reset

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