September 26, 2025 • 13 mins
In this conversation, Jovanna Burke and Chelsea Hobbs explore the complexities of finding balance as creatives, particularly for parents in the film industry. They discuss the myth of balance, the importance of time management, the necessity of rest, and the challenges of setting boundaries. The conversation emphasizes that balance is often messy and requires grace and self-care, encouraging listeners to embrace their unique rhythms and creative flows.
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(00:01):
Welcome to the creative sisterhood where women take
center stage on screen and behind the scenes.
I'm Jovanna Burke, actress, filmmaker, producer and founder
of Grand Blvd. Entertainment.
And I'm Chelsea Hobbs, writer partner in Grand Blvd. and your
copilot on this wild ride through the entertainment
industry. Between the two of us, we spent
over 50 years carving our own paths in this business, and now
(00:25):
we're handing you the blueprint.Each week we dive into real
conversations about acting, creating your own work, building
your brand, and surviving this industry with your soul intact.
Whether you're an aspiring actress and indie filmmaker or
just done waiting for permissionto tell your story, this space
is for. You.
Because here on The Creative Sisterhood, we don't play by the
(00:47):
rules. We make our own.
Let's get into it. Hello, welcome back.
We are here to give you a short little episode today.
That's right. We wanted to talk about balance
and what that means to creativesin the film industry
specifically, and more specifically Even so to parents
(01:10):
as well. Because balancing things is a
real act and I really feel. Like that you ever have it fully
mastered. I think that it's always
something that you're having to revisit and pivot with.
I love the I love the word pivotI feel.
Like I do too, yeah. Balancing is a lot of pivoting,
isn't it? Well, I think it's like a lot of
a myth of balance, too, right? Like, like, it's OK to drop the
(01:33):
ball because not everything is going to like, you know, really
work out in the way that you want to all the time.
And I think that's OK. And I think that's part of why
we're having this conversation today, because I think we need
to give people permission to figure out how to balance things
for them. Absolutely.
(01:55):
And I think a big part of also where a lot of our inspiration
comes from in just talking to you guys is obviously our lives
and we are both currently tryingto balance so much.
I mean, I feel like there are days where Javon and I, like, I
mean, I'm going to speak for both of us.
We feel like we're mastering it and we're on top of it.
(02:15):
And there are days where we're like flailing and throwing the
hot baton at each other like you.
Can't. Yeah.
You're tired. Take it.
It's so hard. Because it really is.
Like, it's it's a myth. I honestly believe.
Like it's honestly about how do we intentionally get things done
without feeling guilty about thethings we can't get done?
Yeah, like right now, you know, Chelsea is moving.
(02:38):
With four kids. Yeah, and.
At the end of a divorce like it's.
It's a lot. And yeah, having to balance that
alongside all of what we're doing as well is, is a lot.
And so, you know, you just kind of have to do what you can.
And I think it's a lot of time management for me personally,
ever since I became a mom, and Idon't know if you feel this way
(02:59):
too, Chelsea, but ever since I became a mom, I really had to
learn about managing my free time.
Yeah, you're so good at that. Really getting a lot done and
you know, the hour I have here, the half hour I have there, I
just really put the pedal to themetal and get the work done and
then and I spend time with my kids or drive them around like
an Uber. So do you find that like when
(03:20):
you give yourself the permissionto etch those times into your
day, you can then be more present to do it in a way that
is more meaningful because you it's like a reward system for
yourself? Yes.
Is that how you and? That's kind of how I do it now.
It took me a long time to figureout how to function as a mother
and and a creative because creative flow doesn't exactly
(03:44):
just like come. Right.
No, it's like a I can go. It's like a flow.
And stop. It's not like, OK, between 10:00
and 11:00 AM today, I'm going towrite like, yeah, that doesn't
always work, you know? What I mean, there's like a fire
you have to put out or your kid,like, you know, pees their pants
at school and you have to run and get them.
Yeah, or whatever your your situation.
Exactly. And so I think it's just like I
(04:05):
need to honor my creative rhythmalongside the schedule that I
have with my children and. Yeah.
That is challenging, but it's doable and it's not always fully
attainable. Like I can't always get
everything done. But I've managed to learn how to
train myself to be creative within the lines.
Let's say like I create a box and then I'm creative within
(04:26):
that box in that time, and then I move on with my day.
I don't know, it's like framing it a little bit.
I also love the idea of accountability.
Buddies like you and I are very fortunate in the fact that we
collaborate really well together.
And when one of us feels like there's just too much weight in
our day or our week, the other one can pick up some slack.
And I know not everybody has that ability, but I, I've heard
(04:50):
so much about these accountability groups like even
if it's doing your taxes and youare so boggled down like for a
fellow ADHD people like about the weight of it all, just
having somebody to check in withand be like, OK, let's have a
date where we get on the phone with each other.
We don't even talk, but like, it's a date at 10:00 AM on
Tuesday, like we're both gettingwhat we need to get done.
(05:10):
And I think that's such a smart way to do things, too.
I think it really helps, especially with creatives too.
And it's not that I'm saying that creative people are lazy by
any means, because I don't thinkthey are.
You can't be. If you want to be successful in
this industry, you have to be extra productive but.
We're not trained in structure right like traditional.
You have to train. Yeah, you have to.
You have to discipline yourself.And I think for me, like a lot
of that came from my dance background because I was a a
(05:32):
dancer, professional dancer for a long time.
And the discipline that I learned from that really shaped
my life because I knew that I had to get my work done before I
could have play. Like that's kind of how my brain
works. And so for me, even when I was
just acting and not, you know, producing and writing and stuff,
I and I'd get an audition, I waslike, OK, like, where am I
(05:53):
carving out this time in my day to learn my lines?
Where am I carving out this timein my day to, you know, just run
the lines, not even learn them, You know what I mean?
Like, you just have to kind of figure out how you're going to
fit it in. And when your mom and you have
small children like you, Chelsea, you know, your time is
limited. You get like 10 minutes here,
maybe 30 minutes here, you know,or when they go to bed.
(06:16):
Yeah, like for me, I don't know if there's anyone listening.
I mean, sure, there's a fellow single moms listening, but
having balance and finding rhythm and then your life
changing is also a really real thing.
Because I had to find balance all over again.
Like what my balance was and looked like before was flipped
on its head. So then it was going, OK, I'm
(06:37):
going to be fully present with my kids when I have them as much
as possible. And then the days that I don't
have them, I'm able to like get into work hustle mode.
Right, but it's. Hard looks different.
Yeah. But I don't have to find the
balance when they're not here because I'm like then I'm trying
to do it all. Right.
But also, yeah, like I think also a lot of the time, you
(06:57):
know, your schedule is not goingto be dependent on just your
schedule. It's also dependent on a studio
schedule or other production company schedules.
And you're just going to, you have to find the time when your
kids are there too. And so that's the challenge.
And that's like a real thing that's going to that happens,
right? So in those moments, it's about
how do I take this 30 minutes oftime and, and not worry about
the dishes in the sink and not worry about the laundry and the.
(07:20):
That has come last, let me tell you.
Yeah. That went from being like high
priority to they will get done or they won't, but that's not
where I'm at today. Totally, totally.
And I think it's also another thing I've been talking to
because I'm going through some really difficult stuff with my
family and my grandma's not doing well.
And so I've been really struggling with that.
(07:41):
And so has my mom, of course, it's her mother.
And my mom as a, as a mothers do, takes care of everybody else
and doesn't take care of herself.
And I think that's like a real problem with a lot of us because
we try to do everything for everybody and then we don't take
care of ourselves. And rest is also productive.
And rest is part of finding balance like it's necessary.
(08:03):
And I think it's like, how do wereframe REST as a key part of
our creative process too? I.
Love that. That's huge for me.
I live near the mountains, like near the forest.
And even today I was like feeling very overwhelmed with
everything I had to get done before my kids come home
tomorrow. So it was like work moving
everything. And I was like, I'm just going
to start the day by going for a walk, and I can walk and think
(08:25):
about what I can get done today.But taking that time for myself
did recharge me. And it saved me the balance.
Yeah, the balance within that I needed to balance my life.
Right. And that shouldn't be a reward
you have to earn. Like, that should be just a part
of your schedule every day. You're allowed to have that
rest, whatever that means to you, you know?
Yeah. So like sleep?
(08:46):
Yeah. Really important.
I mean chocolate and Netflix. Find your balance, girl.
Yeah. And I think whatever you know, I
find if I do too much, you know,which I often do and I think
it's just who I am. I think it's really, really
important to set boundaries right to to create balance and
not burn out because. We're going to have to do a
(09:08):
whole other episode on boundaries because that is a
really big one, especially as women.
Oh my gosh, that's yeah. We won't even get into that.
But that is so, so important. Yeah.
And it's like saying no sometimes.
Just yeah, I know it sucks and we're in such a yes culture and
I think a lot of the time is creatives too.
It's like say yes to everything so that you can you don't miss
(09:28):
out on anything because we have FOMO, right?
And we want to do all the things.
While we see people on the Internet doing all the things
and that's the other thing is like we and what Jovan and I are
trying to do in our, in our talkwith all of you guys all the
time is like not to, you know, to break down that stigma of
feeling like you have to be doing so much to be successful.
Like it is about knowing your own boundaries and your own
(09:50):
limits and finding your balance,whatever that looks like, right?
Well, it's hard to balance being, you know, a mom and a
creator and a businesswoman and a partner, you know, being a
wife, like, and all those things, like it's messy, you
know what I mean? And that's OK.
And I think that's part of the reason why we're having this
chat today is to say it's OK andit's totally messy and, and
(10:12):
like, don't be ashamed of that. You know, I think it's, it's
normal. It's like you're human and we do
everything that we can. You got to.
Give us some stuff. Go and give some.
Give yourself grace. I think you got to.
Give yourself grace exactly so. Yeah.
So there you go, that's our little tidbit for today.
We just want a. Little bit, I mean I just chat
a. Little about it totally.
(10:33):
We're, we're in it right now andwe're having to constantly find
new ways to find our balance andas as creators, as partners, as
business people, as parents, yeah, we're like, we're in it
with you guys so. Totally.
And I think, I think if anythingwe can give you is a tool, you
know, to use to protect your creative time like which is
(10:54):
something that I really need. And what actually works for me,
like I said, is there are times in the day where I am more
creatively productive. And for me, that's the mornings.
And usually when my kids go to school and I have the quiet like
one or two hours right after they go to school, that's when I
am so creative. It's either then at night when
(11:17):
they got. One in the morning.
One in the morning when my brainis going insane.
But I think, you know, for us, you know, if we can leave you
with something is why don't you think about your creative flow
time? When is that for you?
Is it middle of the day? Is it first thing in the
morning? Is it, you know, when is that
for you? And see if you can schedule
(11:38):
time, block it in for yourself this coming week and see what
you can get done. Sometimes that creative block
for me is writing, you know, a nine act structure.
Sometimes it's just journaling. So, you know, but I think it's
really important as creatives that we find that time.
Yeah. Every single day.
Because balance can also be not doing anything at all.
(12:00):
Like we totally so like if thereare days where you're like
feeling that pressure, like I have to get something done.
I haven't done anything yet. Know that the self-care, the
time for yourself or working on the other things that are, you
know, stressing you out, that's OK.
Like that's finding your balancetoo.
Call. It your creative flow time and
it can be anything that feeds your creative flow.
That could be a walk in the woods.
(12:22):
It could be like staring at the wall.
Yeah, staring at the hall. Whatever floats your boat.
Just, you know, maybe don't doomscroll like that.
That's not the most creative, yeah.
Yeah, but we all do it. We all do that too.
And you know what? Sometimes I you'll see doom
scroll. As well, I do too it it like I
know it rots my brain, but it also kind of relaxes my brain
(12:44):
weirdly. Anyway, that's all we have for
you this week, but we just wanted to leave you with that.
Find a time block, creative block zone for yourself and find
your balance that your balance is might be messy just like ours
is, and that's OK. And some days you won't have
balance out at all and that's OKtoo.
All right. Bye, guys.
(13:06):
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(13:27):
Until next time, keep telling your story, stay bold, and
remember we don't play by the rules, we make our own.
Welcome to the creative sisterhood where women take
center stage on screen and behind the scenes.
I'm Jovanna Burke, actress, filmmaker, producer and founder
of Grand Blvd. Entertainment.
And I'm Chelsea Hobbs, writer partner in Grand Blvd. and your
copilot on this wild ride through the entertainment
industry. Between the two of us, we spent
over 50 years carving our own paths in this business, and now
(00:25):
we're handing you the blueprint.Each week we dive into real
conversations about acting, creating your own work, building
your brand, and surviving this industry with your soul intact.
Whether you're an aspiring actress and indie filmmaker or
just done waiting for permissionto tell your story, this space
is for. You.
Because here on The Creative Sisterhood, we don't play by the
(00:47):
rules. We make our own.
Let's get into it. Hello, welcome back.
We are here to give you a short little episode today.
That's right. We wanted to talk about balance
and what that means to creativesin the film industry
specifically, and more specifically Even so to parents
(01:10):
as well. Because balancing things is a
real act and I really feel. Like that you ever have it fully
mastered. I think that it's always
something that you're having to revisit and pivot with.
I love the I love the word pivotI feel.
Like I do too, yeah. Balancing is a lot of pivoting,
isn't it? Well, I think it's like a lot of
a myth of balance, too, right? Like, like, it's OK to drop the
(01:33):
ball because not everything is going to like, you know, really
work out in the way that you want to all the time.
And I think that's OK. And I think that's part of why
we're having this conversation today, because I think we need
to give people permission to figure out how to balance things
for them. Absolutely.
(01:55):
And I think a big part of also where a lot of our inspiration
comes from in just talking to you guys is obviously our lives
and we are both currently tryingto balance so much.
I mean, I feel like there are days where Javon and I, like, I
mean, I'm going to speak for both of us.
We feel like we're mastering it and we're on top of it.
(02:15):
And there are days where we're like flailing and throwing the
hot baton at each other like you.
Can't. Yeah.
You're tired. Take it.
It's so hard. Because it really is.
Like, it's it's a myth. I honestly believe.
Like it's honestly about how do we intentionally get things done
without feeling guilty about thethings we can't get done?
Yeah, like right now, you know, Chelsea is moving.
(02:38):
With four kids. Yeah, and.
At the end of a divorce like it's.
It's a lot. And yeah, having to balance that
alongside all of what we're doing as well is, is a lot.
And so, you know, you just kind of have to do what you can.
And I think it's a lot of time management for me personally,
ever since I became a mom, and Idon't know if you feel this way
(02:59):
too, Chelsea, but ever since I became a mom, I really had to
learn about managing my free time.
Yeah, you're so good at that. Really getting a lot done and
you know, the hour I have here, the half hour I have there, I
just really put the pedal to themetal and get the work done and
then and I spend time with my kids or drive them around like
an Uber. So do you find that like when
(03:20):
you give yourself the permissionto etch those times into your
day, you can then be more present to do it in a way that
is more meaningful because you it's like a reward system for
yourself? Yes.
Is that how you and? That's kind of how I do it now.
It took me a long time to figureout how to function as a mother
and and a creative because creative flow doesn't exactly
(03:44):
just like come. Right.
No, it's like a I can go. It's like a flow.
And stop. It's not like, OK, between 10:00
and 11:00 AM today, I'm going towrite like, yeah, that doesn't
always work, you know? What I mean, there's like a fire
you have to put out or your kid,like, you know, pees their pants
at school and you have to run and get them.
Yeah, or whatever your your situation.
Exactly. And so I think it's just like I
(04:05):
need to honor my creative rhythmalongside the schedule that I
have with my children and. Yeah.
That is challenging, but it's doable and it's not always fully
attainable. Like I can't always get
everything done. But I've managed to learn how to
train myself to be creative within the lines.
Let's say like I create a box and then I'm creative within
(04:26):
that box in that time, and then I move on with my day.
I don't know, it's like framing it a little bit.
I also love the idea of accountability.
Buddies like you and I are very fortunate in the fact that we
collaborate really well together.
And when one of us feels like there's just too much weight in
our day or our week, the other one can pick up some slack.
And I know not everybody has that ability, but I, I've heard
(04:50):
so much about these accountability groups like even
if it's doing your taxes and youare so boggled down like for a
fellow ADHD people like about the weight of it all, just
having somebody to check in withand be like, OK, let's have a
date where we get on the phone with each other.
We don't even talk, but like, it's a date at 10:00 AM on
Tuesday, like we're both gettingwhat we need to get done.
(05:10):
And I think that's such a smart way to do things, too.
I think it really helps, especially with creatives too.
And it's not that I'm saying that creative people are lazy by
any means, because I don't thinkthey are.
You can't be. If you want to be successful in
this industry, you have to be extra productive but.
We're not trained in structure right like traditional.
You have to train. Yeah, you have to.
You have to discipline yourself.And I think for me, like a lot
of that came from my dance background because I was a a
(05:32):
dancer, professional dancer for a long time.
And the discipline that I learned from that really shaped
my life because I knew that I had to get my work done before I
could have play. Like that's kind of how my brain
works. And so for me, even when I was
just acting and not, you know, producing and writing and stuff,
I and I'd get an audition, I waslike, OK, like, where am I
(05:53):
carving out this time in my day to learn my lines?
Where am I carving out this timein my day to, you know, just run
the lines, not even learn them, You know what I mean?
Like, you just have to kind of figure out how you're going to
fit it in. And when your mom and you have
small children like you, Chelsea, you know, your time is
limited. You get like 10 minutes here,
maybe 30 minutes here, you know,or when they go to bed.
(06:16):
Yeah, like for me, I don't know if there's anyone listening.
I mean, sure, there's a fellow single moms listening, but
having balance and finding rhythm and then your life
changing is also a really real thing.
Because I had to find balance all over again.
Like what my balance was and looked like before was flipped
on its head. So then it was going, OK, I'm
(06:37):
going to be fully present with my kids when I have them as much
as possible. And then the days that I don't
have them, I'm able to like get into work hustle mode.
Right, but it's. Hard looks different.
Yeah. But I don't have to find the
balance when they're not here because I'm like then I'm trying
to do it all. Right.
But also, yeah, like I think also a lot of the time, you
(06:57):
know, your schedule is not goingto be dependent on just your
schedule. It's also dependent on a studio
schedule or other production company schedules.
And you're just going to, you have to find the time when your
kids are there too. And so that's the challenge.
And that's like a real thing that's going to that happens,
right? So in those moments, it's about
how do I take this 30 minutes oftime and, and not worry about
the dishes in the sink and not worry about the laundry and the.
(07:20):
That has come last, let me tell you.
Yeah. That went from being like high
priority to they will get done or they won't, but that's not
where I'm at today. Totally, totally.
And I think it's also another thing I've been talking to
because I'm going through some really difficult stuff with my
family and my grandma's not doing well.
And so I've been really struggling with that.
(07:41):
And so has my mom, of course, it's her mother.
And my mom as a, as a mothers do, takes care of everybody else
and doesn't take care of herself.
And I think that's like a real problem with a lot of us because
we try to do everything for everybody and then we don't take
care of ourselves. And rest is also productive.
And rest is part of finding balance like it's necessary.
(08:03):
And I think it's like, how do wereframe REST as a key part of
our creative process too? I.
Love that. That's huge for me.
I live near the mountains, like near the forest.
And even today I was like feeling very overwhelmed with
everything I had to get done before my kids come home
tomorrow. So it was like work moving
everything. And I was like, I'm just going
to start the day by going for a walk, and I can walk and think
(08:25):
about what I can get done today.But taking that time for myself
did recharge me. And it saved me the balance.
Yeah, the balance within that I needed to balance my life.
Right. And that shouldn't be a reward
you have to earn. Like, that should be just a part
of your schedule every day. You're allowed to have that
rest, whatever that means to you, you know?
Yeah. So like sleep?
(08:46):
Yeah. Really important.
I mean chocolate and Netflix. Find your balance, girl.
Yeah. And I think whatever you know, I
find if I do too much, you know,which I often do and I think
it's just who I am. I think it's really, really
important to set boundaries right to to create balance and
not burn out because. We're going to have to do a
(09:08):
whole other episode on boundaries because that is a
really big one, especially as women.
Oh my gosh, that's yeah. We won't even get into that.
But that is so, so important. Yeah.
And it's like saying no sometimes.
Just yeah, I know it sucks and we're in such a yes culture and
I think a lot of the time is creatives too.
It's like say yes to everything so that you can you don't miss
(09:28):
out on anything because we have FOMO, right?
And we want to do all the things.
While we see people on the Internet doing all the things
and that's the other thing is like we and what Jovan and I are
trying to do in our, in our talkwith all of you guys all the
time is like not to, you know, to break down that stigma of
feeling like you have to be doing so much to be successful.
Like it is about knowing your own boundaries and your own
(09:50):
limits and finding your balance,whatever that looks like, right?
Well, it's hard to balance being, you know, a mom and a
creator and a businesswoman and a partner, you know, being a
wife, like, and all those things, like it's messy, you
know what I mean? And that's OK.
And I think that's part of the reason why we're having this
chat today is to say it's OK andit's totally messy and, and
(10:12):
like, don't be ashamed of that. You know, I think it's, it's
normal. It's like you're human and we do
everything that we can. You got to.
Give us some stuff. Go and give some.
Give yourself grace. I think you got to.
Give yourself grace exactly so. Yeah.
So there you go, that's our little tidbit for today.
We just want a. Little bit, I mean I just chat
a. Little about it totally.
(10:33):
We're, we're in it right now andwe're having to constantly find
new ways to find our balance andas as creators, as partners, as
business people, as parents, yeah, we're like, we're in it
with you guys so. Totally.
And I think, I think if anythingwe can give you is a tool, you
know, to use to protect your creative time like which is
(10:54):
something that I really need. And what actually works for me,
like I said, is there are times in the day where I am more
creatively productive. And for me, that's the mornings.
And usually when my kids go to school and I have the quiet like
one or two hours right after they go to school, that's when I
am so creative. It's either then at night when
(11:17):
they got. One in the morning.
One in the morning when my brainis going insane.
But I think, you know, for us, you know, if we can leave you
with something is why don't you think about your creative flow
time? When is that for you?
Is it middle of the day? Is it first thing in the
morning? Is it, you know, when is that
for you? And see if you can schedule
(11:38):
time, block it in for yourself this coming week and see what
you can get done. Sometimes that creative block
for me is writing, you know, a nine act structure.
Sometimes it's just journaling. So, you know, but I think it's
really important as creatives that we find that time.
Yeah. Every single day.
Because balance can also be not doing anything at all.
(12:00):
Like we totally so like if thereare days where you're like
feeling that pressure, like I have to get something done.
I haven't done anything yet. Know that the self-care, the
time for yourself or working on the other things that are, you
know, stressing you out, that's OK.
Like that's finding your balancetoo.
Call. It your creative flow time and
it can be anything that feeds your creative flow.
That could be a walk in the woods.
(12:22):
It could be like staring at the wall.
Yeah, staring at the hall. Whatever floats your boat.
Just, you know, maybe don't doomscroll like that.
That's not the most creative, yeah.
Yeah, but we all do it. We all do that too.
And you know what? Sometimes I you'll see doom
scroll. As well, I do too it it like I
know it rots my brain, but it also kind of relaxes my brain
(12:44):
weirdly. Anyway, that's all we have for
you this week, but we just wanted to leave you with that.
Find a time block, creative block zone for yourself and find
your balance that your balance is might be messy just like ours
is, and that's OK. And some days you won't have
balance out at all and that's OKtoo.
All right. Bye, guys.
(13:06):
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(13:27):
Until next time, keep telling your story, stay bold, and
remember we don't play by the rules, we make our own.
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