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June 18, 2026 43 mins

What does it take to connect the worlds of academia, government, and industry around workforce development? The answer requires someone fluent in all three.

In this episode, Ben sits down with Rachel Lipson, researcher at Harvard, fellow at Brookings and the Aspen Institute, and author, to explore what's working (and what isn't) in America's approach to training workers for the jobs of today and tomorrow.

Topics covered:

  • Why business, education, and policy need to operate together
  • The CHIPS Act as a workforce policy outlier: how it flipped the government's default from antipoverty lens to competitiveness and innovation
  • Why demand-side workforce policy is so rare in the U.S.
  • The Tesla and Austin Community College case: how a company-college partnership went from a soft PR commitment to a proven productivity driver
  • Why subsidizing firm-specific training isn't a corporate giveaway
  • What community colleges can offer that on-the-job hiring can't
  • How to think about preparing the next generation for jobs that don't exist yet

About Rachel Lipson: Rachel Lipson is a researcher and policy entrepreneur working across Harvard, Brookings, and the Aspen Institute, with a focus on workforce development, social mobility, and the relationship between education and economic opportunity. She is the author of a forthcoming book examining how employers and training institutions can better work together to build a skilled workforce.

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