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June 19, 2025 • 13 mins

This recap episode features comedians Luis J. Gomez and Big Jay Oakerson. Across various segments, the conversation spans a wide array of topics, including personal anecdotes about hair loss and childhood trauma, discussions on comedy beefs and the comedian community, and observations on societal shifts like the rise of electric vehicles and changes in drug culture. The dialogue also explores ancient history and conspiracy theories, critiques aspects of modern technology and media, and offers insights into the world of combat sports, including UFC fights and boxing legends.


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(00:00):
Welcome to the Joe Rogan Recap, and before we get going, you can
now access the full Google Notebook with a mind map,
timeline, and briefing document by clicking the link in the
description. Today we're diving deep into a
recent conversation from the JoeRogan Experience episode Hashtag
2339, featuring Luis J Gomez andBig J Oakerson.
It's an absolute whirlwind of topic.

(00:22):
I mean jumping from cutting edgetechnology and ancient history
all the way to the wild world ofcomedy and professional sports.
Yeah, it was a lot. Our mission today is to sort of
cut through that noise, pull outthe most intriguing insights
and, you know, connect the dots across these really varied
subjects. We want to give you a shortcut
to being truly well informed on some surprising ideas, and maybe
help understand why these discussions matter, what they

(00:43):
reveal about the world we navigate every day.
All right, let's unpack this. So the conversation kicks off
with this fascinating, almost philosophical observation that
we might be living in an advanced stage of the video
game. It's a really striking phrase.
What does that even mean in the context of what they're seeing?
They mentioned things like people lighting cop cars on fire
in LA, throwing blocks off of overpasses, widespread looting.

(01:06):
It's more than just chaos. There's this distinct sense that
things feel surreal, almost likepart of a bigger, maybe designed
experience. Right.
That concept of life is a video game or simulation.
It really speaks to a growing feeling of disconnect.
I think actions, even destructive ones, seem to have
these immediate chaotic consequences that somehow feel

(01:28):
less grounded in traditional reality.
And what's really fascinating here is how this feeling echoes
A recurring theme throughout this deep dive, that tension
between order and chaos in this increasing sense of losing
control, especially, you know, with new technologies coming in.
Yeah, that idea of technology and control, it leads right into
their discussion on the future of transportation, specifically

(01:49):
electric and self driving cars. They paint a pretty stark
picture. What was their core argument
about these supposed solutions? Well, they project this future
where corporations basically on all transportation and these
autonomous vehicles become the only safest way to get around,
which eventually leads, in theirview, to everyone's driver's
license is being taken away. Yeah, they even imagine cars

(02:11):
going 200 miles an hour and traffic is being completely
eliminated. But, you know, it raises that
important question for us, Is convenience always truly
progressive, or does it come with hidden costs, new
vulnerabilities? The conversation really hit on
the practical problems, like those excessively long charging
times for electric cars. Yes, and they shared that
specific anecdote, the young single woman waiting an hour at

(02:34):
a charging station at night. That really paints a picture,
doesn't it? Vulnerable.
Exactly. And beyond that, they
highlighted the big difference between the advertised mileage
and the real mileage you actually get depending on how
you drive, the weather and how quickly EV batteries can die in
the cold. They mentioned that situation in
Chicago recently. It was dramatic.
And even little things like Tesla's unique tire repair

(02:56):
process, you can't just go anywhere.
It needs specialized factory handling.
So if this is the future, what does this all mean for us?
You know the user relying on these technologies.
Well, it definitely prompts us to consider the trade-offs.
You get perceived safety and speed, maybe, but versus
potential new vulnerabilities and this growing reliance on

(03:19):
centralized infrastructure. But it also points to a
fascinating counter trends, almost like a human desire to
move back analog a little bit. Interesting.
Yeah. They mentioned teenagers
apparently going back to regularcigarettes from vapes or this
idea of bringing back manual cars.
It's like a subtle pushback for something slower, maybe more
tangible, more control. And here's where it gets really

(03:39):
wild. They even talked about people
lighting way MO self driving cars on fire just for fun.
The quote was something like nobody gets hurt.
It's just hilarious and I think it's directionally correct.
Like you should probably start killing robots.
Yeah, that that playful aggression, let's call it,
towards new tech and robots. It seems to connect to deeper

(04:00):
anxieties, right, about corporate control, losing
personal agency. It's like this very real human
desire to assert control, to push back against a future that
feels increasingly automated, maybe out of our hands, a
symbolic act. OK so from future tech let's
pivot to something really personal.
Our bodies. They touched on hair loss, which
might seem you know, a bit trivial, but then they swing to

(04:23):
the extreme physical demands in sports.
They specifically mentioned finasteride for hair loss
blocking DHT but immediately talked about the serious side
effects like depression hitting your sex drive, leading some
guys to just say forget it, I'llgo bold.
Right. And that really highlights those
intense personal struggles with appearance.
But it's actually a great transition to how far people

(04:44):
push their bodies, especially inprofessional sports where the
stakes are, you know, so much higher.
Exactly. And that leads right into the
grueling world of combat sports,especially those extreme weight
cuts. They brought up Kayla Harrison
cutting from 155 down to 135 forbantamweight.
The weigh in picture was apparently just scary.
Speaks volumes. Or that older story, Travis

(05:07):
Letter fighting Anderson Silva Letter looked so bad from the
cut, lips cracked, shuffling, and he still didn't make weight.
Oh, I remember. That yeah.
And then he gassed out super fast in the fight even though he
had elite BJJ skills. Right.
So it really makes you wonder what's the true cost of that
competitive edge. As they discussed, weight
cutting can lead to serious health issues, kidney problems
like Mickey Gall apparently experienced, and it obviously

(05:29):
impacts performance too. These stories just powerfully
reveal the intense pressure, physical and psychological, on
these athletes pushing their bodies right to the brink.
And they also got into the very real, sometimes horrific
injuries from so-called non lethal weapons, talking about
the irreparable damages from rubber bullets, people losing

(05:50):
eyeballs. There was even a graphic
anecdote about someone needing surgery to reattach portions of
his genitalia. Just awful.
And they mentioned seeing a clipof an Australian reporter shot
in the leg and a story about cops shooting a guy in the Dick.
What's really striking there is how the discussion shifts, you
know, from the controlled violence in sport to this

(06:10):
uncontrolled violence in society.
It highlights that incredibly thin line between non lethal and
actually causing permanent, devastating damage.
It forces you to think critically about power dynamics,
about consequences. So, wrapping this part up, what
does this all tell us about the human body and mind under
extreme pressure? Well, I think whether it's the
physical toll of weight cuts, the impact of rubber bullets, or

(06:32):
even those mental health struggles they touched on, like
BJ Penn claiming his family are imposters or Kurt Metzger's deep
dive into conspiracy theories, we see the extremes, right
extremes of human physical and psychological experience.
It's a powerful reminder of our fragility, definitely, but also,
maybe paradoxically, our incredible resilience.

(06:53):
OK, changing gears completely now let's pivot to history and
the whole world of challenging established narratives.
They talk about people like Graham Hancock exploring ancient
civilizations and the resistancehe gets, especially from
academia. The conversation brought up the
Clovis first theory, the idea that the first people in North
America were here around 13,000 years ago.

(07:13):
That was the standard for decades.
Right. But then, as they highlighted,
came this new evidence, Human footprints in White Sands, New
Mexico, dated conclusively to 22,000 years old.
And the person who found it, hiscareer was apparently ruthlessly
destroyed, even though he was ultimately proven right.
Yeah. It really shines a light on the
gatekeepers of academia, as theyput it, people who resist ideas

(07:35):
that might, you know, throw their expertise into question.
It challenges all of us, really,to stay open to new information,
even if it completely overturns what we thought we knew.
Are we too quick to dismiss things just because they don't
fit? And they didn't stop there.
They also got into Atlantis and other ancient mysteries,
mentioning the reset structure in Africa.
That huge thing in the Sahara looks like it was hit by a

(07:57):
massive flood and incredibly fits Plato's description of
Atlantis pretty well. It's uncanny when you see the
pictures. Totally.
And then the immense Trellathon stones at Baalbek in Lebanon.
These massive, perfectly cut blocks weighing hundreds of tons
with just no explanation for howancient people moved them.
It really makes you pause and think, doesn't it?

(08:19):
How much of ancient history are we truly certain about the lack
of clear explanations for these massive engineering feats?
It encourages critical thinking about what humans were capable
of way back then, maybe more than we give them credit for.
So what's the core take away forour understanding of history
here? Well, the implication seems to
be, if you connect these dots, that human civilization might be

(08:40):
much older, maybe more complex than the standard story
suggests. It really invites you, the
listener, to question those accepted narratives, to explore
the unexplained with, you know, an open mind.
History isn't set in stone, maybe literally.
All right, let's talk comedy. This deep dive wouldn't be
complete without looking at the unpredictable world of comedians

(09:02):
and public figures. They got right into comedy
beefs. Luce J Gomez had that self
deprecating quote. I'm a loser.
I just, I get on a flight and I'll be on Twitter for teeny
hours just tweeting at people for no reason at all.
Yeah, and they talked about the incident with Crowder where a
simple weed conversation blew upbecause one side felt bullied
when the other started live researching facts against their

(09:23):
points. Yeah, it shows that raw,
unfiltered side of comedy interactions, especially online,
where a personal style can really clash hard with public
perception. It's a fascinating look at how
boundaries get tested constantlyin this very public arena
everyone's watching. And then this was wild.
The intersection of comedy, politics, and celebrity.

(09:46):
They discussed Kid Rock, specifically him gunning down
that Bud Light with a rifle. In that video, which you know
coincided with the stock dropping.
They were joking you should be Minister of Beer, mentioning his
funny and wacky friendship with the president.
It's just bizarre, isn't it, howfame and influence can directly
intersect with global politics, corporate bottom lines.

(10:07):
It really prompts you to consider the actual impact of
celebrity actions, intended or not, and all the unseen drama
behind the scenes that can sway things.
Speaking of bizarre, they dove into the absolutely wild
friendship between Dennis Rodmanand Kim Jong Un, specifically
referencing that documentary, Dennis Rodmans Big Bang and
Pyongyang. What were the highlights there?

(10:27):
Oh man, this story is just nuts.Apparently the doc shows Rodman
drunkenly bowing where is not the custom treating N Koreans
like dolls. Just a total culture clash.
And they talked about his infamous meltdown ESPN interview
saying it stemmed from a massivehangover and feeling totally
betrayed, like his team just left him there to deal with it
all alone. It's such a prime example of how

(10:50):
celebrity can lead to these completely surreal diplomatic
things. Highlights the unpredictable
power of personal influence on aglobal stage.
Yeah. And that brings us to the
current state of comedy and censorship.
We heard YouTube is apparently relaxing moderation rules a bit,
allowing more controversial stuff like discussions of

(11:11):
elections, ideologies, movements, race, gender,
sexuality, abortion, immigrationand censorship.
OK, but then on the other hand, Instagram flagged a joke loose
made about getting free cocaine in Mexico and banned his
advertising for a year. Claimed it was running drug
sales. Really highlights the value of
having those uncensored show versions, doesn't it?
Absolutely. And it raises that big question,
right as these platforms keep evolving, what does freedom of

(11:34):
expression actually mean in practice?
It shows that constant push and pull between creators wanting to
be raw, and the platforms with their shifting, sometimes
contradictory rules. The ground can change under your
feet really fast. Finally, those legendary live
comedy moments. They recounted Louis CK surprise
return at Skank Fest, Huge standing ovation apparently.

(11:55):
And the incredible part? Not a single person took video.
Just a pure shared live moment. Pretty rare these days.
Totally. And then Bill Burr is legendary
traveling virus tour rant in Philly, tearing into the city.
You know the famous lines. Joe Frazier is from here, no
statues to him. And you have a statue of a
fictitious Italian heavyweight through batteries at Santa

(12:17):
Claus, heart of this town. Iconic.
And that's the thing, right? How these moments, often raw,
controversial, definitely unscripted, they become
legendary. They actually shape the culture
of comedy. Just shows the unique power of
live performance, that genuine connection with an audience
where something electric can happen and become history.
Wow. OK, So what an incredible range

(12:38):
from these big philosophical questions about, like, simulated
reality and the real challenges of future tech, all the way to
the intense demands on the humanbody and mind, those deep
mysteries in ancient history and, yeah, the completely
untamed world of comedy and celebrity.
It's a lot. Yeah, it really is.
But this deep dive, I think it reveals how deeply

(12:58):
interconnected all these seemingly separate topics
actually are. It's kind of a powerful reminder
that human behavior, you know, our curiosity, our limits, our
search for meaning, for entertainment, That's often what
drives the evolution of our world, whether it's through
technology or sports or challenging what we thought we
knew about history. So maybe the big thing for you,
our listener, is this. The information we consume, the

(13:21):
history we choose to believe, the entertainment we seek, it's
all profoundly shaped by human choices, our own flaws and
frailties, and this constant, really unpredictable dance
between what's real and what's spectacle.
Exactly. Which leaves us with this final,
provocative thought maybe Mull over.
If the past isn't as settled as we sometimes think it is, and
the future looks as chaotic as it does promising, then how much

(13:44):
of what we perceive as truth right now is simply a story
we've all sort of collectively agreed to.
And maybe more importantly, whatstories are we, you included,
helping to write right now?
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