July 10, 2025 • 13 mins
This recap episode unpacks an interview featuring an in-depth conversation with mycologist, Paul Stamets. The discussion primarily centres on the history, current use, and potential benefits of psilocybin mushrooms, including their role in consciousness expansion, mental health treatment (especially for trauma and addiction), and general well-being. Stamets also elaborates on the Stoned Ape theory, which posits a connection between early human evolution and psychedelic use, and introduces his work with mycelial research, specifically its applications in bolstering immunity in animals (like bees) and its potential for human health. The conversation additionally touches on the societal implications of artificial intelligence and the importance of nature connectedness, advocating for a re-evaluation of current drug policies and a more open, scientific approach to psychedelics.
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(00:00):
Welcome to the Joe Rogan recap, and before we get going, you can
now access the full Google Notebook with a mind map,
timeline, and briefing document by clicking the link in the
description. Today we're taking a
comprehensive deep dive into a truly expansive conversation.
It stretches from ancient history right up to the cutting
edge of artificial. Intelligence and it all.
(00:20):
Revolves around this single fascinating subject, psilocybin
mushrooms, and they're pretty profound implications for
humanity and the natural world too.
Our source material for this deep dive comes straight from a
recent discussion on the Joe Rogan Experience featuring Paul
Stamets, who's, I mean, an undeniable luminary in the field
of mycology. Our mission today is really to
(00:41):
extract the most surprising facts, the deepest insights and
maybe some actionable takeaways from this really rich dialogue.
We want to equip you to navigatethese complex ideas with clarity
and hopefully walk away genuinely well informed.
So as you first started digging into this material, what was the
first thing that really jumped out at you?
You know, what's immediately striking is just the sheer
breath of topics. They're all interconnected, but
(01:03):
they stem from this central thread of psilocybin.
It's not just about the fungi themselves, right?
It's it's how they seem to have intertwined with human
consciousness, societal evolution, and even like the
intricate design of nature itself.
It's a really holistic view. Absolutely.
And the conversation, it sets a powerful stage right from the
start. We learned, for instance, that
Paul Stamets himself has just put out his eighth book on
(01:25):
psilocybin taxonomy. He calls it an unexpected
revolution. And the numbers alone are
compelling. In 2023, something like 3% of
Americans, that's about 8 million people, reported using
psilocybin. Right.
And the source material makes a point that that figure is likely
underreported. Exactly.
So this isn't some, you know, fringe movement anymore.
It seems to be crossing all kinds of traditional political
(01:48):
and and religious divides. Yeah.
And that broad acceptance, it really points to maybe a
burgeoning consciousness revolution.
And it's gaining traction in some really unexpected places.
Like, consider the story about former Republican Governor Rick
Perry in Texas. He became this vocal advocate
for EBO Game, which is another psychedelic compound.
I didn't remember that part. Yeah, and he openly talked about
(02:10):
overcoming what he called ideological capture, basically
admitting his previous stance was rooted in ignorance.
He educated himself, had an experience, and completely
flipped his view. That's a powerful example.
It shows how direct experience or even just new knowledge can
shift deeply held beliefs, even for people in power.
Precisely. It raises that question, what
(02:31):
happens when powerful figures really grapple with new
information like this? And building on that modern
context, the discussion then dives deep into the history,
which is frankly remarkable. The psilocybin use is far from
new. In Mesoamerica you have the
Mazatec tradition calling them the Tears of Christ.
The body of Christ. Eaten raw or dried?
Very sacred. And even further back, ancient
(02:54):
Egyptian frescoes, especially those showing the goddess
Hathor. They seem to depict psilocybin
mushrooms. They call them the flesh of the
gods. Yeah, that's incredible.
And get this the idea that ancient depictions of Saints,
even Jesus with Halos, might actually be stylized mushroom
undersides? It sounds wild, but visually,
well, it highlights this profound syncretism.
(03:16):
You know, the blending of beliefs, indigenous traditions
merging with Christianity, maybefor cultural survival.
Right. And what's really compelling is
how this history echoes in modern research, like those
studies from NYU and Johns Hopkins with clergy members.
Yeah. Tell us about that.
So they gave high doses of psilocybin to 24 clergy from
various faiths and the finding was amazing.
(03:38):
It actually reinforced their existing beliefs they didn't
challenge. Them.
Wow. OK, Reinforce.
Them. Yeah, and a staggering 95%
called it one of the top five most significant experiences of
their entire lives. 95%. 95% So it suggests this deep
compatibility maybe between these substances and genuine
(03:58):
spiritual exploration within established faiths.
It's not about replacing belief,but potentially deepening it.
So given all that that these profound findings, what are the
implications for us today? Yeah, the therapeutic potential
seems huge based on the discussion.
Oh, immense. Yeah.
The material really digs into the benefits for veterans, law
(04:20):
enforcement, people dealing withsevere PTSD.
It describes how psilocybin helps them achieve self
forgiveness, become, as Stamets put it, better people.
It's framed as one of the few things genuinely helping them.
One of the only things. In some cases it's something.
Like, which is huge. But then it raises another
question. OK, that's severe trauma.
What about what Stamets calls the near normals?
You know most of us. Is dealing with daily stress.
(04:42):
Anxiety, right? We're all on that spectrum.
So, he posits, what if psilocybin could be used for
prevention, proactively addressing mental health, maybe
reducing addiction, even crime? The potential return on
investment, he suggests, could be hundreds of billions of
dollars, maybe even impacting the national debt if access was
seen differently, like a citizen's right.
(05:03):
It's a big thought, and he mentioned the horrific things
law enforcement and firefighterssee daily, more death and
tragedy sometimes than soldiers in combat zones.
Yeah, the cumulative trauma. And then that idea What if
people committing crimes could have an experience that helps
them confront their own reality,maybe change their path?
That idea of forgiveness of selfseems really key.
(05:24):
It came up again with the end oflife patients in Canada at that
Roots to Thrive place. Tell us about that.
Terminal patients, guided by indigenous elders, used
psilocybin and found this profound peace with dying.
They went from existential dreadto acceptance.
They even started counseling their own families.
That shift just perfectly showcases psilocybin's potential
to reframe our whole relationship with life and
(05:46):
death. It's about finding closure.
That's incredibly moving. Now shifting gears slightly, but
still related, the idea of psilocybin as an Einstein
molecule fueling creativity, cognition.
Yes, that was a fascinating thread.
Anecdotes about athletes like world class kickboxers
performing better, literally seeing moves before they happen.
(06:08):
Like enhanced intuition or processing speed?
Something like that or people achieving intense focus in games
and Stamit's own stamit stacks, psilocybin, niacin, lion's mane.
Right, the micro dosing stack. Exactly.
Studies showed measurable psychomotor benefits increased
tapping ability significantly. Little things, but they add up.
And this connects to the the Stone Dave theory, right?
(06:30):
Yeah, it does. And Stamit's acknowledges some
of the more speculative parts ofthat theory, but he highlights
the core idea. Could psilocybin have played a
role in human brain evolution? There was that big jump in brain
size around 200,000 years ago. Could our primate ancestors have
encountered these mushrooms? A theory that used to be pretty
much dismissed, wasn't it? Largely, yeah, But now there's
(06:51):
actual science backing parts of it.
Studies showing psilocybin stimulates neurogenesis, growing
new neurons and neuro regeneration.
Neuroplasticity basically helping the brain rewire itself
form new connections. So maybe there was a kind of Co
evolution going on. That's mind bending and this
drive for growth, it seems to extend beyond just the
(07:12):
individual brain out into society, like his example of the
I Naturalist app. Right.
Getting kids, adults, everyone out into nature, turning them
into citizen scientists. Discovering thousands of new
species every year. Yeah.
It fosters community, shifts focus from, you know, politics
and division towards shared discovery, and it directly
combats nature deficit syndrome.Simple but powerful.
(07:35):
It really is. But then there's this other
side, the interface with technology, specifically AI.
Stamet share that pretty chilling anecdote from the
Sphere. Yeah, asking the AI about
incorporating random acts of kindness.
And the AI's response? Why would humans do that?
It's far more efficient to have a return on your investment
transactionally. Yeah, chilling is the right
(07:57):
word, and Stamet's point was crucial.
Maybe psilocybin, by fostering empathy and neuroplasticity in
US, gives us a model for how we need to program AI, infuse it
with human values like goodwill,kindness, not just pure cold
efficiency. Otherwise, where do we end up?
Irrelevant or worse? A really critical warning.
(08:17):
OK, so staying with nature's power, but broadening out from
psilocybin. The conversation also covered
other fungi, right? Like Agaricon?
Yes, agaricon, known historically as the elixir of
long life. Sadly, it's endangered now in
Europe, but the research Stametshighlighted.
It's incredible for immunity. How so?
Well, this really shows the crucial role fungi play in
(08:37):
ecology and health. His company Host Defense did
research showing Agaricon and Turkey tail mycelium.
That's the root like network. Right, the mycelium.
It reduced viruses in bees by 879 times in just 12 days. 879
times that's. Unbelievable.
It's astonishing. And think about the bee
apocalypse we're facing. Montana lost 67% of its hives
last year alone. This research points to a
(08:59):
scalable solution for food bio security.
So why isn't it being implemented everywhere?
Well, that's the frustrating part, isn't it?
Practical, proven solutions often get tangled up in
regulations, bureaucracy, existing interests.
And Speaking of interests, that story about the organic chicken
farm. Oh right, a tiny amount of
Agaricon mycelium, like 1/4 gramper chicken, protected the whole
(09:22):
flock from bird flu. The farm became an Oasis of
immunity. But they weren't allowed to just
use it. Apparently, insurance incentives
lean towards widespread euthanasia instead.
It points to that fundamental conflict Stamets mentioned.
Money is in disease. Natural preventative solutions
sometimes aren't profitable for the existing system.
(09:42):
That's deeply cynical, if true. It raises big questions about
our whole approach to health, Stamets pointed out.
Psilocybin itself has strong anti-inflammatory properties.
It helps regulate cytokines likeIll 6, enhances the neuroscape,
indirectly boosting immunity. And he argued for total
disclosure in medicine. Like why isn't comprehensive
vaccine data just openly available for people to see and
(10:05):
make their own informed choices?Well-being vilified or censored
for asking questions. Exactly.
Empowering individuals with information.
It's a call for transparency. OK, let's pivot towards some of
the bigger. Societal shifts discussed.
There was this really compellingidea about psilocybin offering a
path to find meaning beyond traditional work.
(10:27):
Yeah, especially with AI and automation looming and talk of
universal basic income, if our main purpose isn't just earning
a living anymore, what is it? A fundamental question for a lot
of people. Soon, maybe?
Definitely, and Stammetz suggests psilocybin by boosting
neuroplasticity. Changing perspective could help
people reconnect with nature, find new kinds of purpose.
(10:48):
There was also that critique of media manipulation.
You know, click bait journalism,the constant anxiety it
generates, encouraging us to maybe step back from narratives
designed purely to manipulate. Be more discerning about the
information we consume. Right.
Choose connection over conflict maybe?
And Speaking of shifting perspectives, it was interesting
to hear about psychedelics gaining acceptance beyond the
(11:09):
sort of stereotypical left-leaning circles.
Yeah, gaining traction on the right, often because of the
clear benefits seen in soldiers,first responders, people they
respect. There were specific examples
like Sarco, that cop in Boston who got a religious exemption
for psilocybin. And the RCMP officer in
Vancouver using de escalation tactics who felt his own
psilocybin use helped him reducethreat levels and encounters.
(11:33):
It suggests a different way of dealing with conflict.
Exactly. It underscores this idea that
maybe authoritarianism thrives on conflict, while psychedelics
tend to foster connection and compassion.
Even the DEA, Stamets noted, seems less focused on substances
like psilocybin now and more on things causing obvious
widespread harm, like fentanyl. A shift in priorities, perhaps?
(11:55):
Perhaps, and the legalization ofpsilocybin prescription down in
New Mexico, driven by citizens, that shows a real democratic
impulse for change. So as we wrap up this deep dive,
reflecting on everything, what's.
The biggest take away? For you, we've gone from ancient
rituals to AI ethics, personal trauma to be health, all through
this lens of psilocybin. I think it comes back to that
(12:16):
central idea, Stamets articulated.
We're in a psilocybin revolution, Not in a chaotic
way, but one that seems to amplify the best in people,
helping them resolve their baggage, become better versions
of themselves, more integrated. More connected maybe?
Yeah, connected. That's a good word for it.
And it leaves us and you listening with a really
(12:37):
important question, doesn't it? Which is.
Well, if this material suggests psilocybin really does have
potential to boost creativity, heal trauma, deepen our
connection to nature, maybe evenguide AI ethically, what's our
responsibility as individuals, as a society?
Do we explore that potential seriously, or do we stay stuck
(12:57):
in old ways of thinking, old restrictions?
It's a challenging question. Damage share that philosophical
thought near the end. The purpose of our being is a
tautology. We are being here because we
are. Right, a call to just be
present, but also keep expandingour knowledge.
Think beyond our limited human frameworks.
Appreciate the vastness of it all.
So maybe the final thought for everyone listening is this.
(13:19):
In a world where technology and society are constantly
redefining our purpose, how might embracing nature's wisdom,
maybe even carefully engaging with these Einstein molecules,
unlock a new level of human consciousness, a better
collective well-being? What new connections might open
up? Exactly what new connections
will you make after this deep dive?
Welcome to the Joe Rogan recap, and before we get going, you can
now access the full Google Notebook with a mind map,
timeline, and briefing document by clicking the link in the
description. Today we're taking a
comprehensive deep dive into a truly expansive conversation.
It stretches from ancient history right up to the cutting
edge of artificial. Intelligence and it all.
(00:20):
Revolves around this single fascinating subject, psilocybin
mushrooms, and they're pretty profound implications for
humanity and the natural world too.
Our source material for this deep dive comes straight from a
recent discussion on the Joe Rogan Experience featuring Paul
Stamets, who's, I mean, an undeniable luminary in the field
of mycology. Our mission today is really to
(00:41):
extract the most surprising facts, the deepest insights and
maybe some actionable takeaways from this really rich dialogue.
We want to equip you to navigatethese complex ideas with clarity
and hopefully walk away genuinely well informed.
So as you first started digging into this material, what was the
first thing that really jumped out at you?
You know, what's immediately striking is just the sheer
breath of topics. They're all interconnected, but
(01:03):
they stem from this central thread of psilocybin.
It's not just about the fungi themselves, right?
It's it's how they seem to have intertwined with human
consciousness, societal evolution, and even like the
intricate design of nature itself.
It's a really holistic view. Absolutely.
And the conversation, it sets a powerful stage right from the
start. We learned, for instance, that
Paul Stamets himself has just put out his eighth book on
(01:25):
psilocybin taxonomy. He calls it an unexpected
revolution. And the numbers alone are
compelling. In 2023, something like 3% of
Americans, that's about 8 million people, reported using
psilocybin. Right.
And the source material makes a point that that figure is likely
underreported. Exactly.
So this isn't some, you know, fringe movement anymore.
It seems to be crossing all kinds of traditional political
(01:48):
and and religious divides. Yeah.
And that broad acceptance, it really points to maybe a
burgeoning consciousness revolution.
And it's gaining traction in some really unexpected places.
Like, consider the story about former Republican Governor Rick
Perry in Texas. He became this vocal advocate
for EBO Game, which is another psychedelic compound.
I didn't remember that part. Yeah, and he openly talked about
(02:10):
overcoming what he called ideological capture, basically
admitting his previous stance was rooted in ignorance.
He educated himself, had an experience, and completely
flipped his view. That's a powerful example.
It shows how direct experience or even just new knowledge can
shift deeply held beliefs, even for people in power.
Precisely. It raises that question, what
(02:31):
happens when powerful figures really grapple with new
information like this? And building on that modern
context, the discussion then dives deep into the history,
which is frankly remarkable. The psilocybin use is far from
new. In Mesoamerica you have the
Mazatec tradition calling them the Tears of Christ.
The body of Christ. Eaten raw or dried?
Very sacred. And even further back, ancient
(02:54):
Egyptian frescoes, especially those showing the goddess
Hathor. They seem to depict psilocybin
mushrooms. They call them the flesh of the
gods. Yeah, that's incredible.
And get this the idea that ancient depictions of Saints,
even Jesus with Halos, might actually be stylized mushroom
undersides? It sounds wild, but visually,
well, it highlights this profound syncretism.
(03:16):
You know, the blending of beliefs, indigenous traditions
merging with Christianity, maybefor cultural survival.
Right. And what's really compelling is
how this history echoes in modern research, like those
studies from NYU and Johns Hopkins with clergy members.
Yeah. Tell us about that.
So they gave high doses of psilocybin to 24 clergy from
various faiths and the finding was amazing.
(03:38):
It actually reinforced their existing beliefs they didn't
challenge. Them.
Wow. OK, Reinforce.
Them. Yeah, and a staggering 95%
called it one of the top five most significant experiences of
their entire lives. 95%. 95% So it suggests this deep
compatibility maybe between these substances and genuine
(03:58):
spiritual exploration within established faiths.
It's not about replacing belief,but potentially deepening it.
So given all that that these profound findings, what are the
implications for us today? Yeah, the therapeutic potential
seems huge based on the discussion.
Oh, immense. Yeah.
The material really digs into the benefits for veterans, law
(04:20):
enforcement, people dealing withsevere PTSD.
It describes how psilocybin helps them achieve self
forgiveness, become, as Stamets put it, better people.
It's framed as one of the few things genuinely helping them.
One of the only things. In some cases it's something.
Like, which is huge. But then it raises another
question. OK, that's severe trauma.
What about what Stamets calls the near normals?
You know most of us. Is dealing with daily stress.
(04:42):
Anxiety, right? We're all on that spectrum.
So, he posits, what if psilocybin could be used for
prevention, proactively addressing mental health, maybe
reducing addiction, even crime? The potential return on
investment, he suggests, could be hundreds of billions of
dollars, maybe even impacting the national debt if access was
seen differently, like a citizen's right.
(05:03):
It's a big thought, and he mentioned the horrific things
law enforcement and firefighterssee daily, more death and
tragedy sometimes than soldiers in combat zones.
Yeah, the cumulative trauma. And then that idea What if
people committing crimes could have an experience that helps
them confront their own reality,maybe change their path?
That idea of forgiveness of selfseems really key.
(05:24):
It came up again with the end oflife patients in Canada at that
Roots to Thrive place. Tell us about that.
Terminal patients, guided by indigenous elders, used
psilocybin and found this profound peace with dying.
They went from existential dreadto acceptance.
They even started counseling their own families.
That shift just perfectly showcases psilocybin's potential
to reframe our whole relationship with life and
(05:46):
death. It's about finding closure.
That's incredibly moving. Now shifting gears slightly, but
still related, the idea of psilocybin as an Einstein
molecule fueling creativity, cognition.
Yes, that was a fascinating thread.
Anecdotes about athletes like world class kickboxers
performing better, literally seeing moves before they happen.
(06:08):
Like enhanced intuition or processing speed?
Something like that or people achieving intense focus in games
and Stamit's own stamit stacks, psilocybin, niacin, lion's mane.
Right, the micro dosing stack. Exactly.
Studies showed measurable psychomotor benefits increased
tapping ability significantly. Little things, but they add up.
And this connects to the the Stone Dave theory, right?
(06:30):
Yeah, it does. And Stamit's acknowledges some
of the more speculative parts ofthat theory, but he highlights
the core idea. Could psilocybin have played a
role in human brain evolution? There was that big jump in brain
size around 200,000 years ago. Could our primate ancestors have
encountered these mushrooms? A theory that used to be pretty
much dismissed, wasn't it? Largely, yeah, But now there's
(06:51):
actual science backing parts of it.
Studies showing psilocybin stimulates neurogenesis, growing
new neurons and neuro regeneration.
Neuroplasticity basically helping the brain rewire itself
form new connections. So maybe there was a kind of Co
evolution going on. That's mind bending and this
drive for growth, it seems to extend beyond just the
(07:12):
individual brain out into society, like his example of the
I Naturalist app. Right.
Getting kids, adults, everyone out into nature, turning them
into citizen scientists. Discovering thousands of new
species every year. Yeah.
It fosters community, shifts focus from, you know, politics
and division towards shared discovery, and it directly
combats nature deficit syndrome.Simple but powerful.
(07:35):
It really is. But then there's this other
side, the interface with technology, specifically AI.
Stamet share that pretty chilling anecdote from the
Sphere. Yeah, asking the AI about
incorporating random acts of kindness.
And the AI's response? Why would humans do that?
It's far more efficient to have a return on your investment
transactionally. Yeah, chilling is the right
(07:57):
word, and Stamet's point was crucial.
Maybe psilocybin, by fostering empathy and neuroplasticity in
US, gives us a model for how we need to program AI, infuse it
with human values like goodwill,kindness, not just pure cold
efficiency. Otherwise, where do we end up?
Irrelevant or worse? A really critical warning.
(08:17):
OK, so staying with nature's power, but broadening out from
psilocybin. The conversation also covered
other fungi, right? Like Agaricon?
Yes, agaricon, known historically as the elixir of
long life. Sadly, it's endangered now in
Europe, but the research Stametshighlighted.
It's incredible for immunity. How so?
Well, this really shows the crucial role fungi play in
(08:37):
ecology and health. His company Host Defense did
research showing Agaricon and Turkey tail mycelium.
That's the root like network. Right, the mycelium.
It reduced viruses in bees by 879 times in just 12 days. 879
times that's. Unbelievable.
It's astonishing. And think about the bee
apocalypse we're facing. Montana lost 67% of its hives
last year alone. This research points to a
(08:59):
scalable solution for food bio security.
So why isn't it being implemented everywhere?
Well, that's the frustrating part, isn't it?
Practical, proven solutions often get tangled up in
regulations, bureaucracy, existing interests.
And Speaking of interests, that story about the organic chicken
farm. Oh right, a tiny amount of
Agaricon mycelium, like 1/4 gramper chicken, protected the whole
(09:22):
flock from bird flu. The farm became an Oasis of
immunity. But they weren't allowed to just
use it. Apparently, insurance incentives
lean towards widespread euthanasia instead.
It points to that fundamental conflict Stamets mentioned.
Money is in disease. Natural preventative solutions
sometimes aren't profitable for the existing system.
(09:42):
That's deeply cynical, if true. It raises big questions about
our whole approach to health, Stamets pointed out.
Psilocybin itself has strong anti-inflammatory properties.
It helps regulate cytokines likeIll 6, enhances the neuroscape,
indirectly boosting immunity. And he argued for total
disclosure in medicine. Like why isn't comprehensive
vaccine data just openly available for people to see and
(10:05):
make their own informed choices?Well-being vilified or censored
for asking questions. Exactly.
Empowering individuals with information.
It's a call for transparency. OK, let's pivot towards some of
the bigger. Societal shifts discussed.
There was this really compellingidea about psilocybin offering a
path to find meaning beyond traditional work.
(10:27):
Yeah, especially with AI and automation looming and talk of
universal basic income, if our main purpose isn't just earning
a living anymore, what is it? A fundamental question for a lot
of people. Soon, maybe?
Definitely, and Stammetz suggests psilocybin by boosting
neuroplasticity. Changing perspective could help
people reconnect with nature, find new kinds of purpose.
(10:48):
There was also that critique of media manipulation.
You know, click bait journalism,the constant anxiety it
generates, encouraging us to maybe step back from narratives
designed purely to manipulate. Be more discerning about the
information we consume. Right.
Choose connection over conflict maybe?
And Speaking of shifting perspectives, it was interesting
to hear about psychedelics gaining acceptance beyond the
(11:09):
sort of stereotypical left-leaning circles.
Yeah, gaining traction on the right, often because of the
clear benefits seen in soldiers,first responders, people they
respect. There were specific examples
like Sarco, that cop in Boston who got a religious exemption
for psilocybin. And the RCMP officer in
Vancouver using de escalation tactics who felt his own
psilocybin use helped him reducethreat levels and encounters.
(11:33):
It suggests a different way of dealing with conflict.
Exactly. It underscores this idea that
maybe authoritarianism thrives on conflict, while psychedelics
tend to foster connection and compassion.
Even the DEA, Stamets noted, seems less focused on substances
like psilocybin now and more on things causing obvious
widespread harm, like fentanyl. A shift in priorities, perhaps?
(11:55):
Perhaps, and the legalization ofpsilocybin prescription down in
New Mexico, driven by citizens, that shows a real democratic
impulse for change. So as we wrap up this deep dive,
reflecting on everything, what's.
The biggest take away? For you, we've gone from ancient
rituals to AI ethics, personal trauma to be health, all through
this lens of psilocybin. I think it comes back to that
(12:16):
central idea, Stamets articulated.
We're in a psilocybin revolution, Not in a chaotic
way, but one that seems to amplify the best in people,
helping them resolve their baggage, become better versions
of themselves, more integrated. More connected maybe?
Yeah, connected. That's a good word for it.
And it leaves us and you listening with a really
(12:37):
important question, doesn't it? Which is.
Well, if this material suggests psilocybin really does have
potential to boost creativity, heal trauma, deepen our
connection to nature, maybe evenguide AI ethically, what's our
responsibility as individuals, as a society?
Do we explore that potential seriously, or do we stay stuck
(12:57):
in old ways of thinking, old restrictions?
It's a challenging question. Damage share that philosophical
thought near the end. The purpose of our being is a
tautology. We are being here because we
are. Right, a call to just be
present, but also keep expandingour knowledge.
Think beyond our limited human frameworks.
Appreciate the vastness of it all.
So maybe the final thought for everyone listening is this.
(13:19):
In a world where technology and society are constantly
redefining our purpose, how might embracing nature's wisdom,
maybe even carefully engaging with these Einstein molecules,
unlock a new level of human consciousness, a better
collective well-being? What new connections might open
up? Exactly what new connections
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