February 2, 2026 • 42 mins
In this episode Greg, Jan and Chris discuss the child custody drama/arm wrestling mix-up movie Over The Top, starring Sylvester Stallone. A movie that was a letdown in 1987 surprisingly gets a lot of discussion out of the 3 of them...check it out!
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Tell you what was over the top about that movie was the sweat
budget. That was insane.
Oh, hello. Welcome to the Pixel People pod.
I'm Greg. Say hello, Jim.
Hello, Jim. Who's on the third mark this
week? Who is it?
Could it be? I don't know, you have to guess.
It's the pod father, Chris. What's up?
What's up? Yeah, so this week, after our
very somber and very professional adult episode last
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week on the Space Shuttle Challenger, one of the Seminole
moments of the 80s for us, we switched to the movie Over the
Top. What's Stallone about Arm
wrestling, For the love of your child.
I mean that. Nothing's more 80s than that.
So that's what this episode's about.
But of course, before we do that, we have jazz.
Gnarly news. Take us over the top with that
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news, Jan. It might be under the bottom.
Today's gnarly news February 2nd, 1980 something.
We're already in the February. Wow.
February 2nd, 1980, Blondie debuted at #88 on the Billboard
Hot 100 chart with their single The Hardest Part.
Do you know that song, Chris? I don't know that.
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I don't know if I know that songor not.
I know Blondie, but I don't knowBlondie too.
I don't know that song. They probably didn't hit Top 40
I wouldn't think. I don't know because I I've
heard a lot of her songs. Maybe I know the song, just
don't know the title. I don't know.
Yeah. Promise not to laugh at me if I
want. Well, that's not a promise I can
keep. I.
Want to be brutally honest righthere, Until I researched this I
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never knew that Blondie was the name of the band.
I thought it was just the woman and they said the chart was it
was their single. And I'm like, wait, it was her
single. And I started looking.
I was like, oh wait, the whole band was named Blondie.
So all my life I thought that the band was just Blondie and
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not the entire band. Yeah, Nope, Nope, you're wrong
on that. I liked Blondie, but did did you
know a little trivia on the bandBlondie?
No A. Lot of people consider her the
first rapper Deborah Harry. Really.
Yeah, in the song Rapture. Remember when she raps in, it
does a little talk? How odd if I have 5, Freddy told
Everybody's Fly DJ spinning thisand my, my, that was that whole
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bit right there was her Yeah, being the first rapper.
I've always, I've heard that foryears, but I don't consider that
the first like rap song. I'm sorry.
No, but it's like the first. I don't know it's considered
that, but I mean, it's not a full rap song, but.
Yeah, there's a little song likecalled Walk This Way that did it
way before she did. He don't.
Talk and walk this way, he sings.
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Yeah, but he sings it. I mean, it's not.
I'm just saying that whole cadence of his song, the way
it's done is more talkative thansinging in that song.
That's what I'm saying. But.
You give the first rapper, Deborah Harry, some respect.
I'm eating at her restaurant there in Hickory.
Up at 1:27 at Blondie. Severian there.
No, that was a place, really. Yeah, it's right there across
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the bridge on 1/27. Put that on our yes, Greg.
Yep. Go, go good.
Go there. Good food.
All right. February 2nd, 1980 Linda
Ronstadt Linda Ronstadt's song How do I Make You debuted at
#68I. Think I know that song I.
Love. Yeah.
Can you pick some songs we know?I know I love her music.
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You know what Linda Ronstadt should be known for the most of
anything, What her backing band was the Eagles when she started
and she basically sort of said you are too talented, you need
to start your own band. Do you know that, Chris?
I did not. Yep.
But you know what? We talked.
Don Henley glue fry and she was like y'all you need to start
your own band. Why are you wasting that being
my backup man? When we talked about that on the
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I think it's the last podcast about the Eagles, the Four
Diamond, all that stuff, the very next day popped up some
video I was watching on Reels orsomething was that guy talking
about those albums, which was insane.
While you're talking about that list, and if you went to the
Pixar Ground Facebook page, you'd know it, but the last
episode in Jan's on our news, wetalked about the Dukes of
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Hazzard and Byron Cherry, who's one of the Coy vans, the filming
guys. Soon as I went upstairs and
turned on my phone, like 30 minutes later, the first thing
waiting for me was Byron Cherry had posted something on
Facebook. I don't follow him, but he
posted a picture of him from theDukes of Hazzard.
Like, yeah, I just went through and found this.
They're listening. Our phones are listening.
Listening. Yeah, right.
They're definitely listening. We're being watched and
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listening soon. Yep.
February 2nd, 1981, Iron Maiden released their album Killers.
It's their second album. Yep, with Paul D'Antoni I think.
That was their their last with him.
Yeah, the first two our maiden records are with Paul D'Antoni
and they're great. And then they brought in Bruce
Dickinson and they're great. So, you know, they had two great
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singers, much like Van Halen. This next one is a biggie.
February 2nd, 1981, Rick Springfield released Jessie's
Girl. Yeah.
Hey, we know that song. Good job, Yeah.
That's, you know, that's a generational song right there.
Chris, Chris, I'm going to challenge you this week to
expand your horizons and start listening to some Linda
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Ronstadt. Yeah, you can challenge how you.
Won't. Listen to.
I know her stuff, I've heard of some of her stuff.
Before but if you want to break from incubus and and Aerosmith
pull up dog but dogs around me wanting to pet her stop it so if
you pull. Up You sure that's your dog and
not Jan? No, I promise it's I'm across
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the table, yeah. Oh, OK.
If you listen to the Bakersfieldbeat on the serious Dwight
Yoakam's channel, he plays some good Leonard Ronstadt on there
and it's it's a good mix. He plays, it's a good channel if
you just want something different.
I like Yoakam. February 2nd, 1981, Sister
Sledge released their album All American Girls.
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Do you know that one? What I'm?
Getting what I'm getting from this so far is not much.
Went on February 2nd in. The 80s I know.
Sister Sledge, but I don't know that song.
They. Had a couple hits in the 80s I'm
pretty sure. I know who they are.
I just, I mean, go ahead, sorry.Well then I guess I'll just skip
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this next one because all of those both be like, all right.
Born February 2nd, 1981 was Emily Rose.
She's a very good Hallmark Channel actress.
That's The Haunting of Isn't that a horror movie?
The Haunting. The Haunting of Emily Rose.
That sounds familiar. I think it is, yeah.
This was an actress, Emily Rose.Yeah.
Will or is, I guarantee you, Chris.
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And I don't know any Hallmark shadow actress actually.
She was in some Hallmark movies.The Exorcism of Emily Rose.
Oh, there you go man. She she had a rough 40 something
years. She had to be.
Went from went from Hallmark to Exorcism, which some Hallmark
movies make me want to feel thatway.
Yeah. All the ones at Christmas.
Yep, she was in a lot of the Christmas ones.
So you know her, you know who she is.
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Once I looked up her picture, I knew.
Yeah, later tonight we can watch.
One No, we will not so. February 2nd, 1981 Duran Duran
released Planet Earth. It was their first single from
their first studio album, self-titled Duran Duran.
I know the hits, but I I don't think I would know that.
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Song I I think you would know itif you.
Played it OK. February 2nd, 1982 Late Night
with David Letterman debuted on NBC.
That was a great show, Chris, did you ever stay up and watch?
Letterman. I loved it.
Yeah, he was. Yeah.
He was the man at late night back then.
And it's kind of a shame that hewent to CBS and took over the
11:30 show because he toned it down a lot.
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His late, that Late Show after Carson was like the funniest
late night show ever. Conan.
Took. Over and Conan was great too.
Yeah, Conan carried on his styleof humor, but Letterman got
definitely deluded at 11:30 at night.
Just seen now with his massive beard now he's been off the grid
for years. Chris Elliott came from that
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show and he was one of the writers and did a lot of skits,
and that's how I got to know Chris Elliott, the man under the
stairs on Letterman. Look some of that up on YouTube.
It's hilarious. Yeah, you've shown me some of
this the. TV show on in the 80s.
It was called the Get a Live show.
It's called Get a Live and. It came on right around Tracey
Ullman. I have that on DVD that show and
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it is hilarious, but it is so weird that most people it didn't
last because it was so weird. Speaking of weird.
Oh. Debuting February 2nd, 1982 A
Clockwork Orange. I've never seen that movie.
Why? You just never have I.
Don't. Hey, why don't you watch it
after the podcast? I mean, I could we.
The list is getting long for us to have to do after the podcast.
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You can call that the movie review after the podcast.
That could be your name. You like a 10 minute podcast
after? That after the pod.
After the pod movie review, thatwouldn't actually not be a bad
idea, Chris. You're earning your movie there.
You're earning your money. You're earning your money,
Chris. You're earning your non pay,
Chris. Yeah.
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That's right, I love to get paidfor nothing.
I mean not getting paid for anything.
You want me? And I'm I'm going to be kind of
shocked at this next one. If you weren't part of this
movement. February 2nd, 1983, Menudo Mania
officially began in the US. Menudo.
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I know Menudo. I'm sure Ricky Martin got his
start. I did not listen to Menudo, but
you could. Not so.
You weren't part of Menudo Mania.
But I know because I was a guy. But in the 80s, you knew Menudo.
They were huge. They're like one of the first
boy bands. Yeah, they were named after US
Mexican soup. Really.
Are you making the? They were Puerto Rico.
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Menudo is a no. Menudo is a Mexican soup that
was made like with tripe with like, cow stomach.
Oh, OK. Yeah.
So that's kind of tells you the music because you listen.
You want to throw up. So say that sounds about as
appealing as their music, but. Yeah, that's what I'm saying
too. But it's really is Menudo is a
like a soup dish. You learn a lot on the Pixel
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people pod. We do.
We try to. We try to educate.
Sad news on February 2nd, 1983 it was the last episode of The
Greatest American Hero on ABC the.
Way you just talked about that show debuting, and then we're
like, now the end of Greatest American Hero didn't last.
Yeah, one year for Christmas, I got Season 1 on DVD for my kids
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for Christmas. Yeah, and no clue where it's at
now, but that was a great show. I would love to rewatch that
show. Well, it's it's on Tubby I
think. So Tubby, where everything 80s
lies. Huge news on February 2nd, 1985.
Foreigners single. I want to know what love is
reach #1 on US Billboard Hot 100chart.
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That's a great song. It was huge, huge, I'll tell
you. And podcast listener Rodney
Morris mentioned the other week that his daughter got to sing in
the choir to that song back on that end of Florida several
years ago. That's a good story.
Well, it stayed two weeks at #1 and it was the first song with a
gospel choir. There you go to reach the top of
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the chart. Pretty neat, you know?
February 2nd, 1985, The Judds debut album.
Why not me? I never was a Judge fan.
You guys have got to expand yourmusical library.
I listen to more country than you do, but my country is guys
thinking about how the woman left them broke and drunk.
I don't want to hear much of women trying to pass it off like
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the guy broke their heart. I don't want to.
Hear It was 2 times platinum yeah this was a huge album from
them this was their. First album guys saw it and
thought it was the jugs and bought it and then realized it
was. It had three number one singles
Why Not Me? Girls Not Out and Love is Alive.
Yeah, we should. Yeah.
Chris, let's go listen to the songs Girls Not Out.
Yeah, that's what I'm I'm done. I'm queuing it up right now.
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Yeah, you're not. The only good thing to come out
of the judge was Ashley. Yeah, yeah, You're not going to
get us. I mean, the other week, who was
the other female singer, countrysinger you brought up?
And we're like, listen to that. I forget who it was, but it was
similar. I don't know.
Anyway, I'll cut that out. No, don't get me wrong, I love
listen, hey, I love the ladies account from Anchorman.
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But anyway. But no, like Faith Hill, I love
Faith Hill. I mean, that's, you know,
there's some women singers I like and some I don't, and the
judge just never appealed to me.I don't.
Dislike all women I don't dislike all female country
singers like I just like the older ones and.
I don't either like I like a lotof female rock stars.
Who went and saw was Emmylou Harris?
I mean, so who is that? Do you like Brit Lightning, who
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was born Brittany Denaro? Britt Lightning.
Britt Lightning. Never heard of that.
She was the guitarist for Vixen since 2017.
No, I don't like her. She was born February 2nd, 1985.
Look at her good job. Well, we'll have to go next time
they come, like every two years to Newton down here and play.
We'll just go see Vixen and thenget her to autograph something.
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Well, she was on the podcast. Yeah, yeah, we'll get her on the
podcast. Britt Lightning.
It's a great stage name. February 2nd, 1985 Prince's I
Would Die for You peaked at #8 on the US.
Hot One. That whole album is amazing.
All killer, no filler. Oh my gosh.
That's one of the greatest albums of all time.
That's one of the songs I listento now over like when doe's
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crying and you know, let's go crazy.
I listen to that song while I listen to the hits.
I like computer blue, all that. Yeah, that's a good one.
The cool thing about this song though, after his death, this
song recharted at #39, which I think is pretty cool.
Well they've re released the actual movie.
I've been to the theater twice since he passed away and they
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showed at the theater like in the Dolby like.
I've been there twice since then.
When he died, I have that I havethe one of the original purple
rains on DVD when it came out and I was looking on eBay and
people were paying like 2 and they get $300.00 for it.
And I was like, I just put it uphere and just take these idiots
money because people that you know immediately rush out
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actually my dies I've got to have this and I didn't sell when
Earnhardt died. Don't Earnhardt died.
I had an autograph he I got for him in his Daytona car and I
was, it was going for like 4 or $500 in eBay that night.
And I thought I'm not making money off somebody dying.
But over the years I flipped on as I'm not making money on the
people. I should have sold that thing
because I don't know where it's at now, but I'm thinking you're
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not making money on people dying.
You're making money off idiots that think they have to rush out
and buy this stuff when somebodydies.
And the Prince thing is even Dumber.
They're paying that much for a DVD.
Yeah, I bought a bunch of the Earnhardt Sports Illustrated
too. And then like I looked them up
like a decade later. They were worth exactly what I
think. Yep, Yep.
I still, I still have them in a box out here.
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When we were redoing the basement, I found them.
They're in my share. But that midnight special we
watched the other night with Prince, yeah, that was pretty
good. Yeah.
Worth watching? Yeah, look up Chris, look that
up. And we're going to give you a
we're going to give you a job until the next episode that
you're on. Look up Prince Midnight Special
and we want to give you we don'tyou just give us a review of.
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It I've seen it before, I think,I think I'd say, I think I'll
watch it. If it's Prince related, I'll
watch it. If you did see it before, you
would definitely remember it I. Think you would?
You can't forget. It he's got the big fro hair and
like the real tight like one piece kind of looking suit.
Kind of, no, He is. Not body suit.
No, I'm just going to say he is wearing like bikini briefs and
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like 1/2 cut top and it is. Big, tall boots.
Yeah. And big, old, tall boots.
And I was telling my granddaughter Jim down there she
was. We were showing him that.
And we were like, he got the women looking like this.
And people, women loved him. Yeah.
It didn't matter what he wore, you know, He still got the
women. February 2nd, 1985 Philip Bailey
of Earth, Wind and Fire and PhilCollins of Genesis peaked at #2
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on the US music chart with Easy Lover.
I just listened that song the other night.
Until I found this by researching, I always thought
that was a Phil Collins song. I did not realize it was Philip
Bailey. It was on Philip Bailey's solo
album. Is it not on Phil Collins album
too? What I found, it was just on
Bailey. 'S solo.
That was a good song. Chinese Wall it rocks too.
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For Pop Song, it rocks. It won MTV Video Music Award for
best overall performance in a video and Grammy Award nominated
for best pop performance by a duo or group with Vocals I can.
Understand it, it was a good song.
February 2nd, 1985, Madonna released a single Crazy for You.
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That's a good song. It was from the film Vision
Quest. Every every Madonna's 80s song,
we seem to say that was a good song because it.
Was, but they were all good. Yeah, but I don't remember a
film named Vision Quest. No, I did not either.
Oh, that's what about bicycle racing?
Really. Yeah.
It's about like there you go. From what I remember, it's about
just like speed. Like it's it's bicycle related,
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but yeah. Probably why I never.
Watched it. There you go, I'll put it on the
list. Released February 2nd, 1986, the
movie Down and out in Beverly Hills.
You know, I loved that that movie and I watched it a lot in
the early 80s and I've not watched it in a good 30 years
and I see it pop up some that. And what about Bob?
I see those movies. I loved them in the early 90s or
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back when they came. Out.
I was so excited when What AboutBob came out.
Yeah, it's been a long time and I keep thinking I should watch
that again and I don't. Well, let's write both of those
down. Add it to our after podcast
viewing. List I used to have Down and Out
in Beverly Hills recorded on video, said I'd rent it and
taped it, yeah. Real quick, sorry I just wanted
to verify myself. Vision Quest is about, I
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remember him riding a bicycle init, but it's about a high school
wrestler. Hey Chris.
Wrestling, Bicycling. So at least.
You spoke of. Him riding, bicycling, I just
remember that part. That's good, I guess you can get
tackled in either one of those. Yeah, that's funny though.
I remember that the Dale Earnhardt story, that movie came
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out and I went to watch. It where he was a wrestler.
No, yeah, he turns out it was about a guy that run a produce
stand. It was like, what the crap?
No, it was about a it was about a guy.
It was about a guy who deliveredpizza when he got, you know.
On a bicycle. He lost his and he was just his
comeback, sort of his best friend married his wife, you
know, or moved into his house while he was in a hospital.
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I mean, it was, it was really about that and it was a, it was
a love story. Shake and bake.
That's right, baby. Oh my word, February 2nd, 1986
Desi Arnaz passed away. Do y'all remember?
Desi Arnaz. From I Love Lucy fam this next
one it was a biggie. OK.
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And I'm sure y'all both rememberit.
I remember the crying. February 2nd, 1987, Jimmy
Swaggart admitted to paying for prostitutes and he begged his
followers and his congregation to forgive him.
And they did. And I know Jen knows something
about this because there's a song written about it.
What was it called, Jen about Jimmy Swaggart?
Lover. That would be paid lover.
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It was an Aussie song. Can we tell you what it is?
Little Jimmy Sinner. It's a miracle, man.
I was getting there. I was getting.
There, in case anybody doesn't know, the song Miracle Man by
Ozzy is about Jimmy Swaggart. So there you go.
What? Oh OK February 2nd 1987 Y'all
don't want to hear this one because we just had 1-2 years
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earlier in 1985, but The Judds released their album Heartland.
What was up with The Judds in? February.
OH, Judge. Yeah, I got you.
Well, the shortest month of the year.
You judge haters. So it's at least you know the
least amount of pain you have tosuffer through for a judge
release. OK, how about this next lady?
Let's see if you like her. February 2nd, 1988, Lita Ford
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released her album Lita. Well, yeah, Lita, you mean?
That's what I said. Released her album Lita.
Oh, I just said Leah and I went,Leah, why don't you release
Leah? Yeah, that that had a kiss me
deadly. Close your eyes forever.
Did it have Kiss Me Deadly on it?
I just wrote down I had close your eyes forever.
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I'll just have to throw this in.I don't know how many leader
Ford stories we'll have on this podcast, but she has one of the
the cheesiest lyrics ever written.
Went to a party on a Saturday night.
Went to a party last Saturday. Yeah, went to a party last
Saturday night, didn't get laid,got in a fight.
Uh huh. It ain't no big thing.
It's when I hear those lyrics, Ilaugh so loud.
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Had to borrow 10 bucks. From here, man, it ain't no big
thing. Didn't get laid but got in a
fight. Sounded like my Friday nights
into high school, so maybe I'll relate to Leader Ford.
There's no way Leader Ford went to a party in the 80s and didn't
get laid. That's true.
She'd get a party now and get laid.
Back to The Cave. Kiss me.
Deadly. That was her big.
Close my eyes forever. That's what that was.
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I love that song. She does it with her guitar
player now. He sings the Ozzy parts, but
I've seen it live. Oh, it's not as good without
Ozzy, so yeah. Nothing is good with that.
So what I wanted to say about the lead album that it it also
had, it was her most successful,of course, and it was certified
platinum. Yeah.
And there you have Jan's gnarly news.
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All. Right, that does it for this
week's gnarly news. That'll bring us to the the gist
of this podcast episode, which is the movie Over the top.
Well, first of all, just doing research on this movie was kind
of funny. Kind of funny.
It was a 1987 American sports drama film.
American sports drama. That's a genre, right?
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There, and it combines the emotional drama of a child
custody hearing with arm wrestling.
There's a Norm MacDonald that created you.
Did you ever watch that clip? I did, yeah.
Norm MacDonald's in a car wreck on Saturday Night Live and
Stallone, it was Stallone hostedand Norm's like very injured in
the car and Stallone trying to help him.
And Norm's just taking shots in a like an injured haze at
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Stallone's movies. Like I was over that over the
top movie. And he says something like, I
know should get, you know, let'slet's get a movie about arm
wrestling and put, you know, parental, you know, drama in it.
And he just insulted me and stones.
Like, come on, man, that was a good movie in it.
I I ought to put that audio up in this this episode because
it's so funny. But yeah, that it's like he's
like, I know what was a better movie called Kramer versus
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Kramer, which is what this movieis.
It's an arm wrestling movie withKramer versus Kramer thrown into
it. It's it's crazy.
Not what I thought it was going to be, no.
It stars, of course, Sylvester Stallone as Lincoln Hawk.
He's a long haul truck driver who tries to win back his
estranged son Michael's love while becoming a champion arm
wrestler. Until I researched the moment I
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was thinking like the dumbest thing.
What is up with the hand? If you win this arm wrestling
you get a transfer truck, a niceone.
It was like, what is up with this?
It just I'm like, who put this together now?
I looked it up. That's a true story.
Like the guy that this movie wasbased on won like a quarter
$1,000,000 rig for winning the the thing before.
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It was like, seriously? He was wrapping the truckers in
the division. Yeah, they had a trucker
division. Trucker.
Division in ARM. Wrestle, I guess if you go to
any truck stop in 80s, like, heyman, if we go in the back, let's
watch some trucker's arm wrestle.
Well now I'm wondering if every trucker has one of those
contraptions in their truck where they can work out their
arm while you're driving with the other one.
If you watch that, you would never believe that's legit until
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you find out it really happened.This movie grossed over
16,000,000 in the US, which sounds like a lot until Greg you
tell us how much to loan this movie.
Back story on that as Jan and I are watching this movie.
When it came on it said Canon Films.
So was that Jan was the runaway train on the name of that movie
was so runaway train was on Jansknowing news the other month and
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it's John Voight and Eric Roberts.
So we watched it one night. We think it's going to be like a
B rated movie and it's really good movie.
Halfway through I looked it up and found out that both those
guys got nominated for Academy Awards for that movie.
And I'm like, are you kidding me?
So I got the look in Canon filmswas known for basically like B
movies. Other than that Train movie and
then one in the 70s, they never got nominated for any awards.
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So when I saw this movie, starting Canon films, I'm
thinking, oh, here we go. So as the movie's going on, I'm
thinking, why did he do this movie?
Because this is right after Rocky 4, you know, Rambo, all
their stuff. Salon was huge.
And I'm thinking, why would he take a crappy Canon movie,
especially about arm wrestling? So I'm looking up.
They paid him over $12 million for this movie, which is the
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equivalent of around $35 milliontoday.
That's why he took this movie. They paid over half the budget
was just his his paycheck for this movie.
And it had to be in Canon films thinking we've got a big name.
This is going to be a huge, massive movie no matter what.
And everything I read that was the most an actor had received
for a film at that time. Yeah, it was ungodly the amount
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of money they paid him, but theyhad to have thought the name
alone will sell this movie and make a profit.
And no, it did not. It, Yeah, it didn't do very
well. Over the Top was nominated for a
Razzie Award for worst Actor. Sylvester.
Sylvester Stallone, which I didn't.
Think is Stallone was actually pretty good in this movie, don't
you think Chris? Well.
Yeah, The one thing that I didn't remember about it that
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when I watched it rewatched, it was some of his dialogue, he was
talking in such a whisper, kind of like, I'm like, I'm like,
what? Like you hate to like I almost
had put closed caption on just yeah, to understand what he's
saying. That was my biggest beef with
the dialogue. Was just he was not over the.
Top. He was, yeah.
He was not over the top with hishis character.
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He took it down a notch to show that he could act and Stallone
can act, you know, because the stuff he did.
But not even Koplin. I mean, look at Rocky.
Rocky. I know.
Yeah, in the first one, first blood, he should have one for
that. He had some really good quotes
in this movie, one of them beinghate me.
We have to start someplace. He also said The world meets
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nobody halfway. That's deep.
Beat Me Halfway wasn't that in that, That was one of the songs
in there. I think that, yeah, that might
have been one that his brother Frank Stallone did for the
movie. Frank Stallone did one of the
songs for the movie. The soundtrack was big, by the
way. No Rocky 4 but still good.
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By the way, the kid was a good actor too.
The kid was a pretty good actor.He was it.
He was a good brat it. Had Robert Loja in it.
Robert Loja, you know? Yeah, that's.
A Good night Who mysteriously disappeared at the end of the
movie? Did you notice that Chris he
disappeared at the end of the movie?
He's trying to grandfather, Yeah, He's trying to keep him
apart the whole movie. Then he shows up at the arm
wrestling thing. He looks like all right, It just
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leaves. Yeah, he's got to screw this
kid. Don't appreciate what I get for
him. Yeah.
The soundtrack to this movie made me feel like I could arm
wrestle anybody though. A very good soundtrack.
Yeah, I had a lot of familiar soundtrack names in it.
It had music by Frank Stallone, Kenny Loggins who did the
central theme Meet Me Halfway, Eddie Money and Sammy Hagar,
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John Wetton, which is the lead singer for Asia.
He did Winner Takes it All but after performing the song they
felt like his voice wasn't mean enough.
Yeah, he's got. A So they offered that track to
Hagar, who nailed it. Which I've got to research my
cell phone because it hit me. This movie came out when after
(28:03):
Sammy had joined Van Halen. So I guess he could have deal
with him like, hey, I got to do this soundtrack song or
something because Eddie Van Halen didn't like Sammy doing a
lot of out of the band projects.So Eddie Van Halen played bass
guitar on this song. Well, this might be that song
might be on his 87. Sammy had an 87 solo record he
had to put out to get out of Geffen contract.
He had to put out one last solo record and Eddie played bass on
(28:23):
it. So now I got to go back and look
at that song. Might have come off that album
possibly. Or Jen's looking at her news.
Yeah, I mean. I'm just looking at all the
different songs on that. So Asia is credited for the
track Gypsy Soul, but Wetton is the only Asia member who
actually sang on it. Stallone also appeared in the
video for Winner Takes It All. He was arm wrestling Sammy
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Hagar. Hagar said that Stallone gave
him the black cap at the end of the shoot.
They both signed it and the cap went to charity, fetching around
$10,000. I just turn my cap backwards to
turn on for this podcast. And get me locked in.
Yeah, you feel like you want. You want a power switch, turn it
on. Yeah.
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No, I don't want to arm wrestle anybody.
I'm just getting locked into thepodcast.
It only took them nine weeks to shoot this film, which really
doesn't surprise. Me.
That's probably a Canon thing. Shoot them fast and turn and
burn. That's.
All, Yeah. Yeah.
So the arm wrestling Championship that they, the
tournament that they all had to go to, Yeah, they actually in
real life did this tournament sothey could get footage from it
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for. All those people, that was real.
Those were real arm wrestling. Yeah, competitions you saw in
that. Once the movie was approved for
production, then they started doing this tournament so they
could get the footage and they all work together to host
tournaments and film. I do know a couple of those
guys. I got to take that back what I
said, not all those fights, because a couple of those,
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especially the guy that's the long fault in the championship,
was not. He was just an actor they
grabbed because he had a good look.
They forced him to shave his head.
Yeah. They never grew his hair back
after that because he said he looked cooler.
He looked cooler without hair. Yeah, he's a big dude.
Yeah, died at like age 50 in like 2003.
Or something like that not too long ago.
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Yeah, the arm wrestling competition that they did for
this movie lasted for about a year, and they did qualifying
events in Europe, Israel and Japan.
And the Pilot truck stop. And an 18 hour marathon
tournament at the Las Vegas Hilton.
So they featured as many real life arm wrestlers and footage
(30:29):
from the Vegas finals as they could.
Oh, Oh my God, Jim, I have to add something.
Chris, listen, I don't know if either of you know this, but
this is a double elimination competition.
That's true. Let.
Me remind you, let me remind you, please, this is a double
elimination competition. If you lose twice, you're up
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Double elimination competition. That guy, the announcer that
they had in that movie that had to tell you over and over again,
and Please remember people, thisis a double elimination
competition that drove me in themiddle of the movie.
I told Janice I'm going to make a whole thing about that in the
podcast because that guy will not show up about that.
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Let. Me remind you, let me remind
you, please. This is a double elimination
competition. If you lose twice, you're up.
Double illumination politician. And I think they were thinking
people are idiots and watch these movies don't realize it
when Stallone lost that first one he's out.
And they could literally have said then don't forgive people
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it's a double elimination. But no, they had to have that
guy remind you up until. Double illumination politician.
Shipped in the finals. Yeah.
Except, yeah, that made no sense.
You get to the finals. Single elimination.
Yeah, that guy. Never.
Had to have been beat one time before he was up against
Stallone in the final. He had to have no if you,
otherwise they. You're reading stuff into.
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No, it's in a double thing. You can win all the way, get to
the top without ever losing. Let.
Me remind you, let me remind you, please, this is a double
elimination competition. Because they would have showed
him losing. Yeah, they would have showed him
so knowing they both were suddendeath.
So we watched this. I told Jen, remember Jen?
I said, oh, it's a double elimination.
They've told us. So if Stallone wins this first
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one to be like, but remember, people, it's a double.
You have to go again. So that's why I'm saying the
other guy had to have lost. Unless they just throw that away
by the by the final. This is a double elimination
competition. Yeah, that would have been like
one of the big major plot holes in the whole movie if if he
would have lost and he didn't show it.
Maybe in the final he had. I mean, they, I mean, only 90
(32:39):
minutes long. They could have made 91 minutes
and showed that part. I mean.
Maybe in the final championship match the Devil elimination
thing goes out the window well. That's what I'm thinking.
That's what I'm thinking it was.But they should have said that
though. So the movie featured as many
real life arm wrestlers and footage from the Vegas finals as
they could, with the exception being the scenes that were
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featuring Stallone and they werefilmed the day after the real
final. Was his biggest Stallone is he
would have got killed by everyone he's got.
Oh yeah. But they use the same location
and the extras who were who made-up the audience.
And those scenes were the IT wasthe same people, the same fans
and everything that had filled the venue the day before.
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And you could tell it was old Vegas, too.
Yeah, like Vegas today. Yeah, I kind of wish I've got to
go to Vegas back in the 80s or 90s to see what it used to be,
because it's not what it is now.I mean, you could go down to the
main, that old, old Vegas, there's a road.
I can't think what the name of the road is.
You can go down there and and see Old Vegas, but it's not the
same as actually being there when this is always going on.
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In the montage of arm wrestling toward the end, one competitor
goes so hard that his elbow brakes.
Yeah, I remember that that actually happened.
Yeah, that's a real break that yeah, I'll look that up after
some of the movies over and I read that that guy really did
break his elbow and that him screaming and stuff.
That's that's real. His name was Michael Bochui and
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he was a German national champion in LA for the
tournament. You know, the the film
production and director and all them when that happened, we're
all turn around going, Oh my God, then turn around going.
This is the greatest thing we'veever caught on film ever.
You know you want to get hurt soyou can put it in that movie.
Did you realize in one of the final matches, Sylvester
Stallone goes up against Mad DogMadison, who's played by Randy
(34:30):
Rainey? Yeah.
They also came up against each other again in Rainbow Three in
1988. Oh wow, did.
They all wrestle on that one. I don't think they were armed.
No, I've never seen Rainbow Three.
I've seen one or two, but all. Right.
Is there's another part? He goes to the Middle East.
I think so, yeah. There's like, yeah, I haven't
seen thing after the second one.So yeah, I guess I should
probably watch. No, yeah, I should probably
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watch them. Some of the arm arm wrestlers
names in this movie had me cracking up.
They had Bill Hurley, They had Smasher, Grizzly, Mad Dog.
Smasher. Smasher.
I wouldn't want to go against Smasher or Mad Dog I.
Wouldn't want to go against any of them, even the kid because he
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beat that kid in the in the truck stop.
That was that was the only thingthat took me out of that movie a
little bit because you're tryingto, you know, introduce yourself
to your son who's never met you stuff.
And right out of the blue after like 3 days of hanging up here,
arm wrestle these kids in this in this truck stop and the kids
never arm wrestle those lives like him.
I bet you money my kid will beatyou.
It's like don't put your kid in that kind of pressure off the
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bat. I know they were trying to put
like kidnap I mean. It was setting up the
kidnapping. Kidnapping.
He. Outruns him and chase him down.
That truck, it just cracks me upin that 1960.
Model, by the way, got 500,000 miles on it.
Yeah, by the way, trivia, I don't know if.
Jen has this, but you're watching the movie with the
truck in the beginning where he watches it.
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You know, he's taking it to his son's graduation.
When you see him pull onto the campus in the truck, it's a
totally different truck. It's me.
It does not have the the ego or whatever on the hood.
It doesn't have the same writingon it.
It's a totally different truck. And then when he leaves and
pulls out the original trucks back again, Yeah, I don't
remember. It's one of those.
Continuity. Things that you know.
Somebody missed that. Yeah, people miss that.
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Stuff now it cracks me up how now with all the people involved
in stuff still miss little things.
Do you know that, Sylvester? Stallone wasn't the first
choice. No, it is back up.
I guess. You would say black and lawless
of. Wasp Don Johnson.
Oh yeah, Don. Johnson, you know, Oh.
My I. Swear I am not making.
(36:36):
I was getting ready to joke and say probably somebody like Don
Johnson because of Miami Vice orwhatever.
That's what I was thinking. You serious about that?
Yeah, serious, I remember seeing.
That too. Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, he it. Would not have been a good.
Movie with you had to have somebody literally over the top,
a guy like Stallone, to play that Don Johnson would have got
his arm ripped off by. Bull, what are you talking
(36:56):
about? Yeah, but during that very last.
Scene for the championship. I caught myself while we were
watching it, leaning and trying to help Stallone win, and at one
point I was like my whole body was leaning to the left trying
to help him get the edge over his opponent.
So when you and Greg hold hands now?
Do you take your thumb and wrap it around his thumb?
(37:19):
Yeah, yeah, and I twist. I take him over the.
Top Don't. You think that over the top?
Don't you? Think it's the thumb thing was
something. That they probably were going to
explain more and they just, theyjust for time, they cut it out
kind of like the grandfather, like that's his move.
Or something you know, because. The one that caught him out on
it, the one guy was like, what you doing in my thumb?
You know? I guess it's just like that's
his move. You know, he did it in the truck
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stop in the original where he first stopped for food.
He told his son I got to go to work.
That was that smooth. Stallone arm wrestling style.
Yeah, over the top. Don't.
You also like how like the four or.
Five time defending world champion arm wrestler just
happens to be at the truck stop that salons out with his kids
like and he confronts him. Let's do it right here and you
(38:00):
got no went to Vegas, the whole country and you're.
Like the world champion. And you're trash talking to the
trucker and a truck stopping. Yeah, that's we got there.
Anything else? That's it.
I'll tell. You something I'll tell.
You something you didn't get oneof the guys who loves to get his
ass whipped in your butt whippedTerry.
Sorry if I have to edit that outwhatever, but he.
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Gets his rear end. Whipped in every movie.
He's in Roadhouse and in this movie.
Terry Funk. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Terry Funk, the wrestler. Yeah, Terry Funk, one of the
greatest wrestlers ever, stoppedwrestling in like the mid 80s
and decided I'm going to go to Hollywood and be like an actor,
just a fit tough guy. Get.
Yeah. Gets gets knocked around this
movie. I told that to Jen.
(38:42):
I said Terry Funk. So he's the guy gets beat up in
Roadhouse. Roadhouse gets beat up trash.
Yeah. And then he came back to
wrestling in 89 after he was retired, like in his early 40s.
And then the wrestling for like the next 30 years again.
It's crazy. That guy has the story that you
know, that guy has a whole career arc and stuff, a story
that somebody should do a movie on, just on Terry Funk.
(39:04):
But yeah, I mean, if you look atall his.
I mean, just everything he's done, it's like his whole
wrestling career is just crazy. Maybe that's why he came out to
wrestling because. They probably paid him pretty
good to just be the heavy that gets roughed up in his movies.
But it's like you're so in your mind, you're this wrestler, you
know, and he was a world champ, but he ended up being a world
champ wrestler. So it's like, I can't keep being
the guy that gets beat up in hismovie.
(39:25):
That's going to ruin my legacy. Yeah, but no that to.
Me, that was one of the things Iforgot he was in it and then I
saw it. I'm like, Oh my God, that's
Terry Funk. But I would recommend this movie
if you're. Still on family if you're in any
kind of 80s. Action, It's not Rambo or Rocky
or any of that stuff, but it's it's good.
It's better. I put it this way, for years I
(39:47):
would see this movie or even seethe Sammy Hagar stuff involved
with it and I'm like, I'm wrestling.
That's just stupid. This is what this has to be.
The why would he do that? So we decided to do it.
The reason we picked this because I saw that this movie
came out in February of 87. And so I thought, OK, we'll do a
movie that come out that year. And so we picked this one and
then we watched it and I'm like,this is as bad as I thought it'd
(40:09):
be. It's not, you know, it got a
Razzy probably, you know, because it deserved it.
Maybe it did get nominated. For Best Original Song at the
Academy Awards, there you go, I mean.
People talk about like these movies and they talk about, oh,
like the critics, you know, bashstuff and whatever.
And yeah, it didn't do good. The box office and all, but you
know, I get when I go to the movie, I don't really care what
(40:30):
a critic says about it. You know, I try to stay paper
minded, but it's just, it was just enjoyable.
It was just fun. You for an hour and a half of
your day, you just you get invested in this whole thing and
it's not, I mean to me it's justa fun movie.
I've always liked this movie. I remember watching it multiple
times. I mean, I've probably seen this
movie now watching it again probably 7 or 8 times in my
(40:53):
life. I mean, I've just seen this
movie over and over. We watch these, you know.
Watching these Movies Now for the first time, some of these,
and I'm realizing, you know, that that's worth a good watch.
So when we watched this movie a while back, over the edge
compared to over the top. We've now seen over the edge and
over the top. Are they tied together?
No, no. That will be a good one to do.
(41:13):
Sometime that over the edge because it's another one like
Porky's when Jan and I are watching.
I told Jan like 3/4 through. I said I got a feeling if I'd
watch this movie in the 80s, I've been on the side of the
kids. So Chris, it's got Matt Dillon
is like it's his first acting role and it's just about a bunch
of kids that go like reek anarchy on this this town.
(41:35):
It's just got to watch it. But in the 80s I would have like
been pro kids like, yeah, stick it to the man.
And now 53, I'm like, these kidsare a holes.
These kids are a holes, and everyone of them should be in
juvie. Yeah.
So time definitely changes your outlook on stuff.
Yeah. But anyway, I never heard of it,
so yeah. Yeah.
Check it out sometime, it's on Toby.
It's an hour and a half so so that ends.
(41:57):
We're taking it over the top andout the door.
It's over. So Chris, you got anything to
add before we sign off? No, we'll just get our together
for our arm. Wrestling meet here soon so yeah
I'll start. I got a.
Take a 20 LB Barb out of my workand start curling on it there at
the desk. Yeah, yeah, there's.
Going to wrestle on the woman's division, I guess.
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Piper. Piper the dog.
Yeah, yeah, she can wrestle the dog.
So, yeah, All right. Well, that's it.
We're out. All right, bye.
Tell you what was over the top about that movie was the sweat
budget. That was insane.
Oh, hello. Welcome to the Pixel People pod.
I'm Greg. Say hello, Jim.
Hello, Jim. Who's on the third mark this
week? Who is it?
Could it be? I don't know, you have to guess.
It's the pod father, Chris. What's up?
What's up? Yeah, so this week, after our
very somber and very professional adult episode last
(00:37):
week on the Space Shuttle Challenger, one of the Seminole
moments of the 80s for us, we switched to the movie Over the
Top. What's Stallone about Arm
wrestling, For the love of your child.
I mean that. Nothing's more 80s than that.
So that's what this episode's about.
But of course, before we do that, we have jazz.
Gnarly news. Take us over the top with that
(01:11):
news, Jan. It might be under the bottom.
Today's gnarly news February 2nd, 1980 something.
We're already in the February. Wow.
February 2nd, 1980, Blondie debuted at #88 on the Billboard
Hot 100 chart with their single The Hardest Part.
Do you know that song, Chris? I don't know that.
(01:32):
I don't know if I know that songor not.
I know Blondie, but I don't knowBlondie too.
I don't know that song. They probably didn't hit Top 40
I wouldn't think. I don't know because I I've
heard a lot of her songs. Maybe I know the song, just
don't know the title. I don't know.
Yeah. Promise not to laugh at me if I
want. Well, that's not a promise I can
keep. I.
Want to be brutally honest righthere, Until I researched this I
(01:54):
never knew that Blondie was the name of the band.
I thought it was just the woman and they said the chart was it
was their single. And I'm like, wait, it was her
single. And I started looking.
I was like, oh wait, the whole band was named Blondie.
So all my life I thought that the band was just Blondie and
(02:15):
not the entire band. Yeah, Nope, Nope, you're wrong
on that. I liked Blondie, but did did you
know a little trivia on the bandBlondie?
No A. Lot of people consider her the
first rapper Deborah Harry. Really.
Yeah, in the song Rapture. Remember when she raps in, it
does a little talk? How odd if I have 5, Freddy told
Everybody's Fly DJ spinning thisand my, my, that was that whole
(02:36):
bit right there was her Yeah, being the first rapper.
I've always, I've heard that foryears, but I don't consider that
the first like rap song. I'm sorry.
No, but it's like the first. I don't know it's considered
that, but I mean, it's not a full rap song, but.
Yeah, there's a little song likecalled Walk This Way that did it
way before she did. He don't.
Talk and walk this way, he sings.
(02:56):
Yeah, but he sings it. I mean, it's not.
I'm just saying that whole cadence of his song, the way
it's done is more talkative thansinging in that song.
That's what I'm saying. But.
You give the first rapper, Deborah Harry, some respect.
I'm eating at her restaurant there in Hickory.
Up at 1:27 at Blondie. Severian there.
No, that was a place, really. Yeah, it's right there across
(03:19):
the bridge on 1/27. Put that on our yes, Greg.
Yep. Go, go good.
Go there. Good food.
All right. February 2nd, 1980 Linda
Ronstadt Linda Ronstadt's song How do I Make You debuted at
#68I. Think I know that song I.
Love. Yeah.
Can you pick some songs we know?I know I love her music.
(03:43):
You know what Linda Ronstadt should be known for the most of
anything, What her backing band was the Eagles when she started
and she basically sort of said you are too talented, you need
to start your own band. Do you know that, Chris?
I did not. Yep.
But you know what? We talked.
Don Henley glue fry and she was like y'all you need to start
your own band. Why are you wasting that being
my backup man? When we talked about that on the
(04:05):
I think it's the last podcast about the Eagles, the Four
Diamond, all that stuff, the very next day popped up some
video I was watching on Reels orsomething was that guy talking
about those albums, which was insane.
While you're talking about that list, and if you went to the
Pixar Ground Facebook page, you'd know it, but the last
episode in Jan's on our news, wetalked about the Dukes of
(04:27):
Hazzard and Byron Cherry, who's one of the Coy vans, the filming
guys. Soon as I went upstairs and
turned on my phone, like 30 minutes later, the first thing
waiting for me was Byron Cherry had posted something on
Facebook. I don't follow him, but he
posted a picture of him from theDukes of Hazzard.
Like, yeah, I just went through and found this.
They're listening. Our phones are listening.
Listening. Yeah, right.
They're definitely listening. We're being watched and
(04:49):
listening soon. Yep.
February 2nd, 1981, Iron Maiden released their album Killers.
It's their second album. Yep, with Paul D'Antoni I think.
That was their their last with him.
Yeah, the first two our maiden records are with Paul D'Antoni
and they're great. And then they brought in Bruce
Dickinson and they're great. So, you know, they had two great
(05:09):
singers, much like Van Halen. This next one is a biggie.
February 2nd, 1981, Rick Springfield released Jessie's
Girl. Yeah.
Hey, we know that song. Good job, Yeah.
That's, you know, that's a generational song right there.
Chris, Chris, I'm going to challenge you this week to
expand your horizons and start listening to some Linda
(05:30):
Ronstadt. Yeah, you can challenge how you.
Won't. Listen to.
I know her stuff, I've heard of some of her stuff.
Before but if you want to break from incubus and and Aerosmith
pull up dog but dogs around me wanting to pet her stop it so if
you pull. Up You sure that's your dog and
not Jan? No, I promise it's I'm across
(05:52):
the table, yeah. Oh, OK.
If you listen to the Bakersfieldbeat on the serious Dwight
Yoakam's channel, he plays some good Leonard Ronstadt on there
and it's it's a good mix. He plays, it's a good channel if
you just want something different.
I like Yoakam. February 2nd, 1981, Sister
Sledge released their album All American Girls.
(06:13):
Do you know that one? What I'm?
Getting what I'm getting from this so far is not much.
Went on February 2nd in. The 80s I know.
Sister Sledge, but I don't know that song.
They. Had a couple hits in the 80s I'm
pretty sure. I know who they are.
I just, I mean, go ahead, sorry.Well then I guess I'll just skip
(06:34):
this next one because all of those both be like, all right.
Born February 2nd, 1981 was Emily Rose.
She's a very good Hallmark Channel actress.
That's The Haunting of Isn't that a horror movie?
The Haunting. The Haunting of Emily Rose.
That sounds familiar. I think it is, yeah.
This was an actress, Emily Rose.Yeah.
Will or is, I guarantee you, Chris.
(06:55):
And I don't know any Hallmark shadow actress actually.
She was in some Hallmark movies.The Exorcism of Emily Rose.
Oh, there you go man. She she had a rough 40 something
years. She had to be.
Went from went from Hallmark to Exorcism, which some Hallmark
movies make me want to feel thatway.
Yeah. All the ones at Christmas.
Yep, she was in a lot of the Christmas ones.
So you know her, you know who she is.
(07:17):
Once I looked up her picture, I knew.
Yeah, later tonight we can watch.
One No, we will not so. February 2nd, 1981 Duran Duran
released Planet Earth. It was their first single from
their first studio album, self-titled Duran Duran.
I know the hits, but I I don't think I would know that.
(07:38):
Song I I think you would know itif you.
Played it OK. February 2nd, 1982 Late Night
with David Letterman debuted on NBC.
That was a great show, Chris, did you ever stay up and watch?
Letterman. I loved it.
Yeah, he was. Yeah.
He was the man at late night back then.
And it's kind of a shame that hewent to CBS and took over the
11:30 show because he toned it down a lot.
(07:59):
His late, that Late Show after Carson was like the funniest
late night show ever. Conan.
Took. Over and Conan was great too.
Yeah, Conan carried on his styleof humor, but Letterman got
definitely deluded at 11:30 at night.
Just seen now with his massive beard now he's been off the grid
for years. Chris Elliott came from that
(08:19):
show and he was one of the writers and did a lot of skits,
and that's how I got to know Chris Elliott, the man under the
stairs on Letterman. Look some of that up on YouTube.
It's hilarious. Yeah, you've shown me some of
this the. TV show on in the 80s.
It was called the Get a Live show.
It's called Get a Live and. It came on right around Tracey
Ullman. I have that on DVD that show and
(08:41):
it is hilarious, but it is so weird that most people it didn't
last because it was so weird. Speaking of weird.
Oh. Debuting February 2nd, 1982 A
Clockwork Orange. I've never seen that movie.
Why? You just never have I.
Don't. Hey, why don't you watch it
after the podcast? I mean, I could we.
The list is getting long for us to have to do after the podcast.
(09:05):
You can call that the movie review after the podcast.
That could be your name. You like a 10 minute podcast
after? That after the pod.
After the pod movie review, thatwouldn't actually not be a bad
idea, Chris. You're earning your movie there.
You're earning your money. You're earning your money,
Chris. You're earning your non pay,
Chris. Yeah.
(09:26):
That's right, I love to get paidfor nothing.
I mean not getting paid for anything.
You want me? And I'm I'm going to be kind of
shocked at this next one. If you weren't part of this
movement. February 2nd, 1983, Menudo Mania
officially began in the US. Menudo.
(09:46):
I know Menudo. I'm sure Ricky Martin got his
start. I did not listen to Menudo, but
you could. Not so.
You weren't part of Menudo Mania.
But I know because I was a guy. But in the 80s, you knew Menudo.
They were huge. They're like one of the first
boy bands. Yeah, they were named after US
Mexican soup. Really.
Are you making the? They were Puerto Rico.
(10:07):
Menudo is a no. Menudo is a Mexican soup that
was made like with tripe with like, cow stomach.
Oh, OK. Yeah.
So that's kind of tells you the music because you listen.
You want to throw up. So say that sounds about as
appealing as their music, but. Yeah, that's what I'm saying
too. But it's really is Menudo is a
like a soup dish. You learn a lot on the Pixel
(10:28):
people pod. We do.
We try to. We try to educate.
Sad news on February 2nd, 1983 it was the last episode of The
Greatest American Hero on ABC the.
Way you just talked about that show debuting, and then we're
like, now the end of Greatest American Hero didn't last.
Yeah, one year for Christmas, I got Season 1 on DVD for my kids
(10:50):
for Christmas. Yeah, and no clue where it's at
now, but that was a great show. I would love to rewatch that
show. Well, it's it's on Tubby I
think. So Tubby, where everything 80s
lies. Huge news on February 2nd, 1985.
Foreigners single. I want to know what love is
reach #1 on US Billboard Hot 100chart.
(11:11):
That's a great song. It was huge, huge, I'll tell
you. And podcast listener Rodney
Morris mentioned the other week that his daughter got to sing in
the choir to that song back on that end of Florida several
years ago. That's a good story.
Well, it stayed two weeks at #1 and it was the first song with a
gospel choir. There you go to reach the top of
(11:31):
the chart. Pretty neat, you know?
February 2nd, 1985, The Judds debut album.
Why not me? I never was a Judge fan.
You guys have got to expand yourmusical library.
I listen to more country than you do, but my country is guys
thinking about how the woman left them broke and drunk.
I don't want to hear much of women trying to pass it off like
(11:54):
the guy broke their heart. I don't want to.
Hear It was 2 times platinum yeah this was a huge album from
them this was their. First album guys saw it and
thought it was the jugs and bought it and then realized it
was. It had three number one singles
Why Not Me? Girls Not Out and Love is Alive.
Yeah, we should. Yeah.
Chris, let's go listen to the songs Girls Not Out.
Yeah, that's what I'm I'm done. I'm queuing it up right now.
(12:17):
Yeah, you're not. The only good thing to come out
of the judge was Ashley. Yeah, yeah, You're not going to
get us. I mean, the other week, who was
the other female singer, countrysinger you brought up?
And we're like, listen to that. I forget who it was, but it was
similar. I don't know.
Anyway, I'll cut that out. No, don't get me wrong, I love
listen, hey, I love the ladies account from Anchorman.
(12:38):
But anyway. But no, like Faith Hill, I love
Faith Hill. I mean, that's, you know,
there's some women singers I like and some I don't, and the
judge just never appealed to me.I don't.
Dislike all women I don't dislike all female country
singers like I just like the older ones and.
I don't either like I like a lotof female rock stars.
Who went and saw was Emmylou Harris?
I mean, so who is that? Do you like Brit Lightning, who
(13:02):
was born Brittany Denaro? Britt Lightning.
Britt Lightning. Never heard of that.
She was the guitarist for Vixen since 2017.
No, I don't like her. She was born February 2nd, 1985.
Look at her good job. Well, we'll have to go next time
they come, like every two years to Newton down here and play.
We'll just go see Vixen and thenget her to autograph something.
(13:26):
Well, she was on the podcast. Yeah, yeah, we'll get her on the
podcast. Britt Lightning.
It's a great stage name. February 2nd, 1985 Prince's I
Would Die for You peaked at #8 on the US.
Hot One. That whole album is amazing.
All killer, no filler. Oh my gosh.
That's one of the greatest albums of all time.
That's one of the songs I listento now over like when doe's
(13:49):
crying and you know, let's go crazy.
I listen to that song while I listen to the hits.
I like computer blue, all that. Yeah, that's a good one.
The cool thing about this song though, after his death, this
song recharted at #39, which I think is pretty cool.
Well they've re released the actual movie.
I've been to the theater twice since he passed away and they
(14:09):
showed at the theater like in the Dolby like.
I've been there twice since then.
When he died, I have that I havethe one of the original purple
rains on DVD when it came out and I was looking on eBay and
people were paying like 2 and they get $300.00 for it.
And I was like, I just put it uphere and just take these idiots
money because people that you know immediately rush out
(14:30):
actually my dies I've got to have this and I didn't sell when
Earnhardt died. Don't Earnhardt died.
I had an autograph he I got for him in his Daytona car and I
was, it was going for like 4 or $500 in eBay that night.
And I thought I'm not making money off somebody dying.
But over the years I flipped on as I'm not making money on the
people. I should have sold that thing
because I don't know where it's at now, but I'm thinking you're
(14:50):
not making money on people dying.
You're making money off idiots that think they have to rush out
and buy this stuff when somebodydies.
And the Prince thing is even Dumber.
They're paying that much for a DVD.
Yeah, I bought a bunch of the Earnhardt Sports Illustrated
too. And then like I looked them up
like a decade later. They were worth exactly what I
think. Yep, Yep.
I still, I still have them in a box out here.
(15:11):
When we were redoing the basement, I found them.
They're in my share. But that midnight special we
watched the other night with Prince, yeah, that was pretty
good. Yeah.
Worth watching? Yeah, look up Chris, look that
up. And we're going to give you a
we're going to give you a job until the next episode that
you're on. Look up Prince Midnight Special
and we want to give you we don'tyou just give us a review of.
(15:32):
It I've seen it before, I think,I think I'd say, I think I'll
watch it. If it's Prince related, I'll
watch it. If you did see it before, you
would definitely remember it I. Think you would?
You can't forget. It he's got the big fro hair and
like the real tight like one piece kind of looking suit.
Kind of, no, He is. Not body suit.
No, I'm just going to say he is wearing like bikini briefs and
(15:53):
like 1/2 cut top and it is. Big, tall boots.
Yeah. And big, old, tall boots.
And I was telling my granddaughter Jim down there she
was. We were showing him that.
And we were like, he got the women looking like this.
And people, women loved him. Yeah.
It didn't matter what he wore, you know, He still got the
women. February 2nd, 1985 Philip Bailey
of Earth, Wind and Fire and PhilCollins of Genesis peaked at #2
(16:16):
on the US music chart with Easy Lover.
I just listened that song the other night.
Until I found this by researching, I always thought
that was a Phil Collins song. I did not realize it was Philip
Bailey. It was on Philip Bailey's solo
album. Is it not on Phil Collins album
too? What I found, it was just on
Bailey. 'S solo.
That was a good song. Chinese Wall it rocks too.
(16:38):
For Pop Song, it rocks. It won MTV Video Music Award for
best overall performance in a video and Grammy Award nominated
for best pop performance by a duo or group with Vocals I can.
Understand it, it was a good song.
February 2nd, 1985, Madonna released a single Crazy for You.
(16:59):
That's a good song. It was from the film Vision
Quest. Every every Madonna's 80s song,
we seem to say that was a good song because it.
Was, but they were all good. Yeah, but I don't remember a
film named Vision Quest. No, I did not either.
Oh, that's what about bicycle racing?
Really. Yeah.
It's about like there you go. From what I remember, it's about
just like speed. Like it's it's bicycle related,
(17:22):
but yeah. Probably why I never.
Watched it. There you go, I'll put it on the
list. Released February 2nd, 1986, the
movie Down and out in Beverly Hills.
You know, I loved that that movie and I watched it a lot in
the early 80s and I've not watched it in a good 30 years
and I see it pop up some that. And what about Bob?
I see those movies. I loved them in the early 90s or
(17:44):
back when they came. Out.
I was so excited when What AboutBob came out.
Yeah, it's been a long time and I keep thinking I should watch
that again and I don't. Well, let's write both of those
down. Add it to our after podcast
viewing. List I used to have Down and Out
in Beverly Hills recorded on video, said I'd rent it and
taped it, yeah. Real quick, sorry I just wanted
to verify myself. Vision Quest is about, I
(18:06):
remember him riding a bicycle init, but it's about a high school
wrestler. Hey Chris.
Wrestling, Bicycling. So at least.
You spoke of. Him riding, bicycling, I just
remember that part. That's good, I guess you can get
tackled in either one of those. Yeah, that's funny though.
I remember that the Dale Earnhardt story, that movie came
(18:27):
out and I went to watch. It where he was a wrestler.
No, yeah, he turns out it was about a guy that run a produce
stand. It was like, what the crap?
No, it was about a it was about a guy.
It was about a guy who deliveredpizza when he got, you know.
On a bicycle. He lost his and he was just his
comeback, sort of his best friend married his wife, you
know, or moved into his house while he was in a hospital.
(18:48):
I mean, it was, it was really about that and it was a, it was
a love story. Shake and bake.
That's right, baby. Oh my word, February 2nd, 1986
Desi Arnaz passed away. Do y'all remember?
Desi Arnaz. From I Love Lucy fam this next
one it was a biggie. OK.
(19:10):
And I'm sure y'all both rememberit.
I remember the crying. February 2nd, 1987, Jimmy
Swaggart admitted to paying for prostitutes and he begged his
followers and his congregation to forgive him.
And they did. And I know Jen knows something
about this because there's a song written about it.
What was it called, Jen about Jimmy Swaggart?
Lover. That would be paid lover.
(19:34):
It was an Aussie song. Can we tell you what it is?
Little Jimmy Sinner. It's a miracle, man.
I was getting there. I was getting.
There, in case anybody doesn't know, the song Miracle Man by
Ozzy is about Jimmy Swaggart. So there you go.
What? Oh OK February 2nd 1987 Y'all
don't want to hear this one because we just had 1-2 years
(19:57):
earlier in 1985, but The Judds released their album Heartland.
What was up with The Judds in? February.
OH, Judge. Yeah, I got you.
Well, the shortest month of the year.
You judge haters. So it's at least you know the
least amount of pain you have tosuffer through for a judge
release. OK, how about this next lady?
Let's see if you like her. February 2nd, 1988, Lita Ford
(20:18):
released her album Lita. Well, yeah, Lita, you mean?
That's what I said. Released her album Lita.
Oh, I just said Leah and I went,Leah, why don't you release
Leah? Yeah, that that had a kiss me
deadly. Close your eyes forever.
Did it have Kiss Me Deadly on it?
I just wrote down I had close your eyes forever.
(20:38):
I'll just have to throw this in.I don't know how many leader
Ford stories we'll have on this podcast, but she has one of the
the cheesiest lyrics ever written.
Went to a party on a Saturday night.
Went to a party last Saturday. Yeah, went to a party last
Saturday night, didn't get laid,got in a fight.
Uh huh. It ain't no big thing.
It's when I hear those lyrics, Ilaugh so loud.
(20:59):
Had to borrow 10 bucks. From here, man, it ain't no big
thing. Didn't get laid but got in a
fight. Sounded like my Friday nights
into high school, so maybe I'll relate to Leader Ford.
There's no way Leader Ford went to a party in the 80s and didn't
get laid. That's true.
She'd get a party now and get laid.
Back to The Cave. Kiss me.
Deadly. That was her big.
Close my eyes forever. That's what that was.
(21:22):
I love that song. She does it with her guitar
player now. He sings the Ozzy parts, but
I've seen it live. Oh, it's not as good without
Ozzy, so yeah. Nothing is good with that.
So what I wanted to say about the lead album that it it also
had, it was her most successful,of course, and it was certified
platinum. Yeah.
And there you have Jan's gnarly news.
(21:45):
All. Right, that does it for this
week's gnarly news. That'll bring us to the the gist
of this podcast episode, which is the movie Over the top.
Well, first of all, just doing research on this movie was kind
of funny. Kind of funny.
It was a 1987 American sports drama film.
American sports drama. That's a genre, right?
(22:06):
There, and it combines the emotional drama of a child
custody hearing with arm wrestling.
There's a Norm MacDonald that created you.
Did you ever watch that clip? I did, yeah.
Norm MacDonald's in a car wreck on Saturday Night Live and
Stallone, it was Stallone hostedand Norm's like very injured in
the car and Stallone trying to help him.
And Norm's just taking shots in a like an injured haze at
(22:27):
Stallone's movies. Like I was over that over the
top movie. And he says something like, I
know should get, you know, let'slet's get a movie about arm
wrestling and put, you know, parental, you know, drama in it.
And he just insulted me and stones.
Like, come on, man, that was a good movie in it.
I I ought to put that audio up in this this episode because
it's so funny. But yeah, that it's like he's
like, I know what was a better movie called Kramer versus
(22:49):
Kramer, which is what this movieis.
It's an arm wrestling movie withKramer versus Kramer thrown into
it. It's it's crazy.
Not what I thought it was going to be, no.
It stars, of course, Sylvester Stallone as Lincoln Hawk.
He's a long haul truck driver who tries to win back his
estranged son Michael's love while becoming a champion arm
wrestler. Until I researched the moment I
(23:18):
was thinking like the dumbest thing.
What is up with the hand? If you win this arm wrestling
you get a transfer truck, a niceone.
It was like, what is up with this?
It just I'm like, who put this together now?
I looked it up. That's a true story.
Like the guy that this movie wasbased on won like a quarter
$1,000,000 rig for winning the the thing before.
(23:39):
It was like, seriously? He was wrapping the truckers in
the division. Yeah, they had a trucker
division. Trucker.
Division in ARM. Wrestle, I guess if you go to
any truck stop in 80s, like, heyman, if we go in the back, let's
watch some trucker's arm wrestle.
Well now I'm wondering if every trucker has one of those
contraptions in their truck where they can work out their
arm while you're driving with the other one.
If you watch that, you would never believe that's legit until
(24:01):
you find out it really happened.This movie grossed over
16,000,000 in the US, which sounds like a lot until Greg you
tell us how much to loan this movie.
Back story on that as Jan and I are watching this movie.
When it came on it said Canon Films.
So was that Jan was the runaway train on the name of that movie
was so runaway train was on Jansknowing news the other month and
(24:24):
it's John Voight and Eric Roberts.
So we watched it one night. We think it's going to be like a
B rated movie and it's really good movie.
Halfway through I looked it up and found out that both those
guys got nominated for Academy Awards for that movie.
And I'm like, are you kidding me?
So I got the look in Canon filmswas known for basically like B
movies. Other than that Train movie and
then one in the 70s, they never got nominated for any awards.
(24:46):
So when I saw this movie, starting Canon films, I'm
thinking, oh, here we go. So as the movie's going on, I'm
thinking, why did he do this movie?
Because this is right after Rocky 4, you know, Rambo, all
their stuff. Salon was huge.
And I'm thinking, why would he take a crappy Canon movie,
especially about arm wrestling? So I'm looking up.
They paid him over $12 million for this movie, which is the
(25:10):
equivalent of around $35 milliontoday.
That's why he took this movie. They paid over half the budget
was just his his paycheck for this movie.
And it had to be in Canon films thinking we've got a big name.
This is going to be a huge, massive movie no matter what.
And everything I read that was the most an actor had received
for a film at that time. Yeah, it was ungodly the amount
(25:30):
of money they paid him, but theyhad to have thought the name
alone will sell this movie and make a profit.
And no, it did not. It, Yeah, it didn't do very
well. Over the Top was nominated for a
Razzie Award for worst Actor. Sylvester.
Sylvester Stallone, which I didn't.
Think is Stallone was actually pretty good in this movie, don't
you think Chris? Well.
Yeah, The one thing that I didn't remember about it that
(25:52):
when I watched it rewatched, it was some of his dialogue, he was
talking in such a whisper, kind of like, I'm like, I'm like,
what? Like you hate to like I almost
had put closed caption on just yeah, to understand what he's
saying. That was my biggest beef with
the dialogue. Was just he was not over the.
Top. He was, yeah.
He was not over the top with hishis character.
(26:14):
He took it down a notch to show that he could act and Stallone
can act, you know, because the stuff he did.
But not even Koplin. I mean, look at Rocky.
Rocky. I know.
Yeah, in the first one, first blood, he should have one for
that. He had some really good quotes
in this movie, one of them beinghate me.
We have to start someplace. He also said The world meets
(26:35):
nobody halfway. That's deep.
Beat Me Halfway wasn't that in that, That was one of the songs
in there. I think that, yeah, that might
have been one that his brother Frank Stallone did for the
movie. Frank Stallone did one of the
songs for the movie. The soundtrack was big, by the
way. No Rocky 4 but still good.
(26:56):
By the way, the kid was a good actor too.
The kid was a pretty good actor.He was it.
He was a good brat it. Had Robert Loja in it.
Robert Loja, you know? Yeah, that's.
A Good night Who mysteriously disappeared at the end of the
movie? Did you notice that Chris he
disappeared at the end of the movie?
He's trying to grandfather, Yeah, He's trying to keep him
apart the whole movie. Then he shows up at the arm
wrestling thing. He looks like all right, It just
(27:17):
leaves. Yeah, he's got to screw this
kid. Don't appreciate what I get for
him. Yeah.
The soundtrack to this movie made me feel like I could arm
wrestle anybody though. A very good soundtrack.
Yeah, I had a lot of familiar soundtrack names in it.
It had music by Frank Stallone, Kenny Loggins who did the
central theme Meet Me Halfway, Eddie Money and Sammy Hagar,
(27:40):
John Wetton, which is the lead singer for Asia.
He did Winner Takes it All but after performing the song they
felt like his voice wasn't mean enough.
Yeah, he's got. A So they offered that track to
Hagar, who nailed it. Which I've got to research my
cell phone because it hit me. This movie came out when after
(28:03):
Sammy had joined Van Halen. So I guess he could have deal
with him like, hey, I got to do this soundtrack song or
something because Eddie Van Halen didn't like Sammy doing a
lot of out of the band projects.So Eddie Van Halen played bass
guitar on this song. Well, this might be that song
might be on his 87. Sammy had an 87 solo record he
had to put out to get out of Geffen contract.
He had to put out one last solo record and Eddie played bass on
(28:23):
it. So now I got to go back and look
at that song. Might have come off that album
possibly. Or Jen's looking at her news.
Yeah, I mean. I'm just looking at all the
different songs on that. So Asia is credited for the
track Gypsy Soul, but Wetton is the only Asia member who
actually sang on it. Stallone also appeared in the
video for Winner Takes It All. He was arm wrestling Sammy
(28:44):
Hagar. Hagar said that Stallone gave
him the black cap at the end of the shoot.
They both signed it and the cap went to charity, fetching around
$10,000. I just turn my cap backwards to
turn on for this podcast. And get me locked in.
Yeah, you feel like you want. You want a power switch, turn it
on. Yeah.
(29:04):
No, I don't want to arm wrestle anybody.
I'm just getting locked into thepodcast.
It only took them nine weeks to shoot this film, which really
doesn't surprise. Me.
That's probably a Canon thing. Shoot them fast and turn and
burn. That's.
All, Yeah. Yeah.
So the arm wrestling Championship that they, the
tournament that they all had to go to, Yeah, they actually in
real life did this tournament sothey could get footage from it
(29:27):
for. All those people, that was real.
Those were real arm wrestling. Yeah, competitions you saw in
that. Once the movie was approved for
production, then they started doing this tournament so they
could get the footage and they all work together to host
tournaments and film. I do know a couple of those
guys. I got to take that back what I
said, not all those fights, because a couple of those,
(29:47):
especially the guy that's the long fault in the championship,
was not. He was just an actor they
grabbed because he had a good look.
They forced him to shave his head.
Yeah. They never grew his hair back
after that because he said he looked cooler.
He looked cooler without hair. Yeah, he's a big dude.
Yeah, died at like age 50 in like 2003.
Or something like that not too long ago.
(30:07):
Yeah, the arm wrestling competition that they did for
this movie lasted for about a year, and they did qualifying
events in Europe, Israel and Japan.
And the Pilot truck stop. And an 18 hour marathon
tournament at the Las Vegas Hilton.
So they featured as many real life arm wrestlers and footage
(30:29):
from the Vegas finals as they could.
Oh, Oh my God, Jim, I have to add something.
Chris, listen, I don't know if either of you know this, but
this is a double elimination competition.
That's true. Let.
Me remind you, let me remind you, please, this is a double
elimination competition. If you lose twice, you're up
(30:52):
Double elimination competition. That guy, the announcer that
they had in that movie that had to tell you over and over again,
and Please remember people, thisis a double elimination
competition that drove me in themiddle of the movie.
I told Janice I'm going to make a whole thing about that in the
podcast because that guy will not show up about that.
(31:12):
Let. Me remind you, let me remind
you, please. This is a double elimination
competition. If you lose twice, you're up.
Double illumination politician. And I think they were thinking
people are idiots and watch these movies don't realize it
when Stallone lost that first one he's out.
And they could literally have said then don't forgive people
(31:33):
it's a double elimination. But no, they had to have that
guy remind you up until. Double illumination politician.
Shipped in the finals. Yeah.
Except, yeah, that made no sense.
You get to the finals. Single elimination.
Yeah, that guy. Never.
Had to have been beat one time before he was up against
Stallone in the final. He had to have no if you,
otherwise they. You're reading stuff into.
(31:54):
No, it's in a double thing. You can win all the way, get to
the top without ever losing. Let.
Me remind you, let me remind you, please, this is a double
elimination competition. Because they would have showed
him losing. Yeah, they would have showed him
so knowing they both were suddendeath.
So we watched this. I told Jen, remember Jen?
I said, oh, it's a double elimination.
They've told us. So if Stallone wins this first
(32:17):
one to be like, but remember, people, it's a double.
You have to go again. So that's why I'm saying the
other guy had to have lost. Unless they just throw that away
by the by the final. This is a double elimination
competition. Yeah, that would have been like
one of the big major plot holes in the whole movie if if he
would have lost and he didn't show it.
Maybe in the final he had. I mean, they, I mean, only 90
(32:39):
minutes long. They could have made 91 minutes
and showed that part. I mean.
Maybe in the final championship match the Devil elimination
thing goes out the window well. That's what I'm thinking.
That's what I'm thinking it was.But they should have said that
though. So the movie featured as many
real life arm wrestlers and footage from the Vegas finals as
they could, with the exception being the scenes that were
(33:02):
featuring Stallone and they werefilmed the day after the real
final. Was his biggest Stallone is he
would have got killed by everyone he's got.
Oh yeah. But they use the same location
and the extras who were who made-up the audience.
And those scenes were the IT wasthe same people, the same fans
and everything that had filled the venue the day before.
(33:24):
And you could tell it was old Vegas, too.
Yeah, like Vegas today. Yeah, I kind of wish I've got to
go to Vegas back in the 80s or 90s to see what it used to be,
because it's not what it is now.I mean, you could go down to the
main, that old, old Vegas, there's a road.
I can't think what the name of the road is.
You can go down there and and see Old Vegas, but it's not the
same as actually being there when this is always going on.
(33:47):
In the montage of arm wrestling toward the end, one competitor
goes so hard that his elbow brakes.
Yeah, I remember that that actually happened.
Yeah, that's a real break that yeah, I'll look that up after
some of the movies over and I read that that guy really did
break his elbow and that him screaming and stuff.
That's that's real. His name was Michael Bochui and
(34:07):
he was a German national champion in LA for the
tournament. You know, the the film
production and director and all them when that happened, we're
all turn around going, Oh my God, then turn around going.
This is the greatest thing we'veever caught on film ever.
You know you want to get hurt soyou can put it in that movie.
Did you realize in one of the final matches, Sylvester
Stallone goes up against Mad DogMadison, who's played by Randy
(34:30):
Rainey? Yeah.
They also came up against each other again in Rainbow Three in
1988. Oh wow, did.
They all wrestle on that one. I don't think they were armed.
No, I've never seen Rainbow Three.
I've seen one or two, but all. Right.
Is there's another part? He goes to the Middle East.
I think so, yeah. There's like, yeah, I haven't
seen thing after the second one.So yeah, I guess I should
probably watch. No, yeah, I should probably
(34:51):
watch them. Some of the arm arm wrestlers
names in this movie had me cracking up.
They had Bill Hurley, They had Smasher, Grizzly, Mad Dog.
Smasher. Smasher.
I wouldn't want to go against Smasher or Mad Dog I.
Wouldn't want to go against any of them, even the kid because he
(35:11):
beat that kid in the in the truck stop.
That was that was the only thingthat took me out of that movie a
little bit because you're tryingto, you know, introduce yourself
to your son who's never met you stuff.
And right out of the blue after like 3 days of hanging up here,
arm wrestle these kids in this in this truck stop and the kids
never arm wrestle those lives like him.
I bet you money my kid will beatyou.
It's like don't put your kid in that kind of pressure off the
(35:33):
bat. I know they were trying to put
like kidnap I mean. It was setting up the
kidnapping. Kidnapping.
He. Outruns him and chase him down.
That truck, it just cracks me upin that 1960.
Model, by the way, got 500,000 miles on it.
Yeah, by the way, trivia, I don't know if.
Jen has this, but you're watching the movie with the
truck in the beginning where he watches it.
(35:54):
You know, he's taking it to his son's graduation.
When you see him pull onto the campus in the truck, it's a
totally different truck. It's me.
It does not have the the ego or whatever on the hood.
It doesn't have the same writingon it.
It's a totally different truck. And then when he leaves and
pulls out the original trucks back again, Yeah, I don't
remember. It's one of those.
Continuity. Things that you know.
Somebody missed that. Yeah, people miss that.
(36:16):
Stuff now it cracks me up how now with all the people involved
in stuff still miss little things.
Do you know that, Sylvester? Stallone wasn't the first
choice. No, it is back up.
I guess. You would say black and lawless
of. Wasp Don Johnson.
Oh yeah, Don. Johnson, you know, Oh.
My I. Swear I am not making.
(36:36):
I was getting ready to joke and say probably somebody like Don
Johnson because of Miami Vice orwhatever.
That's what I was thinking. You serious about that?
Yeah, serious, I remember seeing.
That too. Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, he it. Would not have been a good.
Movie with you had to have somebody literally over the top,
a guy like Stallone, to play that Don Johnson would have got
his arm ripped off by. Bull, what are you talking
(36:56):
about? Yeah, but during that very last.
Scene for the championship. I caught myself while we were
watching it, leaning and trying to help Stallone win, and at one
point I was like my whole body was leaning to the left trying
to help him get the edge over his opponent.
So when you and Greg hold hands now?
Do you take your thumb and wrap it around his thumb?
(37:19):
Yeah, yeah, and I twist. I take him over the.
Top Don't. You think that over the top?
Don't you? Think it's the thumb thing was
something. That they probably were going to
explain more and they just, theyjust for time, they cut it out
kind of like the grandfather, like that's his move.
Or something you know, because. The one that caught him out on
it, the one guy was like, what you doing in my thumb?
You know? I guess it's just like that's
his move. You know, he did it in the truck
(37:39):
stop in the original where he first stopped for food.
He told his son I got to go to work.
That was that smooth. Stallone arm wrestling style.
Yeah, over the top. Don't.
You also like how like the four or.
Five time defending world champion arm wrestler just
happens to be at the truck stop that salons out with his kids
like and he confronts him. Let's do it right here and you
(38:00):
got no went to Vegas, the whole country and you're.
Like the world champion. And you're trash talking to the
trucker and a truck stopping. Yeah, that's we got there.
Anything else? That's it.
I'll tell. You something I'll tell.
You something you didn't get oneof the guys who loves to get his
ass whipped in your butt whippedTerry.
Sorry if I have to edit that outwhatever, but he.
(38:22):
Gets his rear end. Whipped in every movie.
He's in Roadhouse and in this movie.
Terry Funk. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Terry Funk, the wrestler. Yeah, Terry Funk, one of the
greatest wrestlers ever, stoppedwrestling in like the mid 80s
and decided I'm going to go to Hollywood and be like an actor,
just a fit tough guy. Get.
Yeah. Gets gets knocked around this
movie. I told that to Jen.
(38:42):
I said Terry Funk. So he's the guy gets beat up in
Roadhouse. Roadhouse gets beat up trash.
Yeah. And then he came back to
wrestling in 89 after he was retired, like in his early 40s.
And then the wrestling for like the next 30 years again.
It's crazy. That guy has the story that you
know, that guy has a whole career arc and stuff, a story
that somebody should do a movie on, just on Terry Funk.
(39:04):
But yeah, I mean, if you look atall his.
I mean, just everything he's done, it's like his whole
wrestling career is just crazy. Maybe that's why he came out to
wrestling because. They probably paid him pretty
good to just be the heavy that gets roughed up in his movies.
But it's like you're so in your mind, you're this wrestler, you
know, and he was a world champ, but he ended up being a world
champ wrestler. So it's like, I can't keep being
the guy that gets beat up in hismovie.
(39:25):
That's going to ruin my legacy. Yeah, but no that to.
Me, that was one of the things Iforgot he was in it and then I
saw it. I'm like, Oh my God, that's
Terry Funk. But I would recommend this movie
if you're. Still on family if you're in any
kind of 80s. Action, It's not Rambo or Rocky
or any of that stuff, but it's it's good.
It's better. I put it this way, for years I
(39:47):
would see this movie or even seethe Sammy Hagar stuff involved
with it and I'm like, I'm wrestling.
That's just stupid. This is what this has to be.
The why would he do that? So we decided to do it.
The reason we picked this because I saw that this movie
came out in February of 87. And so I thought, OK, we'll do a
movie that come out that year. And so we picked this one and
then we watched it and I'm like,this is as bad as I thought it'd
(40:09):
be. It's not, you know, it got a
Razzy probably, you know, because it deserved it.
Maybe it did get nominated. For Best Original Song at the
Academy Awards, there you go, I mean.
People talk about like these movies and they talk about, oh,
like the critics, you know, bashstuff and whatever.
And yeah, it didn't do good. The box office and all, but you
know, I get when I go to the movie, I don't really care what
(40:30):
a critic says about it. You know, I try to stay paper
minded, but it's just, it was just enjoyable.
It was just fun. You for an hour and a half of
your day, you just you get invested in this whole thing and
it's not, I mean to me it's justa fun movie.
I've always liked this movie. I remember watching it multiple
times. I mean, I've probably seen this
movie now watching it again probably 7 or 8 times in my
(40:53):
life. I mean, I've just seen this
movie over and over. We watch these, you know.
Watching these Movies Now for the first time, some of these,
and I'm realizing, you know, that that's worth a good watch.
So when we watched this movie a while back, over the edge
compared to over the top. We've now seen over the edge and
over the top. Are they tied together?
No, no. That will be a good one to do.
(41:13):
Sometime that over the edge because it's another one like
Porky's when Jan and I are watching.
I told Jan like 3/4 through. I said I got a feeling if I'd
watch this movie in the 80s, I've been on the side of the
kids. So Chris, it's got Matt Dillon
is like it's his first acting role and it's just about a bunch
of kids that go like reek anarchy on this this town.
(41:35):
It's just got to watch it. But in the 80s I would have like
been pro kids like, yeah, stick it to the man.
And now 53, I'm like, these kidsare a holes.
These kids are a holes, and everyone of them should be in
juvie. Yeah.
So time definitely changes your outlook on stuff.
Yeah. But anyway, I never heard of it,
so yeah. Yeah.
Check it out sometime, it's on Toby.
It's an hour and a half so so that ends.
(41:57):
We're taking it over the top andout the door.
It's over. So Chris, you got anything to
add before we sign off? No, we'll just get our together
for our arm. Wrestling meet here soon so yeah
I'll start. I got a.
Take a 20 LB Barb out of my workand start curling on it there at
the desk. Yeah, yeah, there's.
Going to wrestle on the woman's division, I guess.
(42:17):
Piper. Piper the dog.
Yeah, yeah, she can wrestle the dog.
So, yeah, All right. Well, that's it.
We're out. All right, bye.
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