Episode 25: Pixel People Album Talk: Phil Collins No Jacket Required

It's another album review episode...this week, Greg, Jan and Chris S jump into "No Jacket Required", Phil Collins' 12 million selling monster. Does it still hold up? Listen and see what we think! #80s #80smusic #nostalgia #philcollins

Episode Transcript

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The Pixel people. Pod smoking jackets and lyrical
Hey, it's the pixel people pod I'm here with.
Say hello, jam. Hello Jam.

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Who else is home? Who is it?
I don't know it, man. Mystery.
Is it's the pod father Chris. That's it.
What's up? Hey, this week I'm going to make
you a mix tape. You like Phil Collins?
I've got 2 ears and a heart don't I?
Exactly Who doesn't love Phil Collins?
So this week is on Phil Collins,his big album, No jacket
required. Because I wore just a shirt and
a tie because there's no jacket required tonight.

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So I'm ready to go. Well, we're new doing this
podcast. Are you not Chris?
I'm not in a remote location so.So before we get into the album
review, Jan's not only news. Here we go.
Jazz gnarly. News Jazz.
Gnarly news. Hit us with that news, Jan.

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Jazz gnarly news from February 16th, 1980.
Something. And first of all, February 16th,
I'd like to say happy 78th birthday to my daddy.
He wasn't born in the 80s, but he had to put up with me in the
80s. Today's his birthday.
Well, happy birthday pops. Yeah, February 16th, 1980 the
crime thriller film Cruising premiered.

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It starred Al Pacino. Yeah, he caught a lot of Flack
for that for a while, for he wasbrave for doing that movie.
It was about it was like the gaycruising stuff in New York and
and he caught a lot of Flack fordoing that movie when he did it.
But he can do no wrong. For me, he's the greatest actor
alive. I was just showing my son-in-law
last night, clips from Serpico with him.

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That's a great movie, by the way.
February 16th, 1980 Christopher Cross debuted on the Billboard
Hot 100 with his very first single, Ride Like the Wind.
Good yacht rock song. That's a great song.
Yacht Rock or Nod? That's a great song.
Did you know that he's like a really like a great shredding
guitarist? He is.
You've shown me videos of that. He.

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He had to fill in one time. When Deep Purple played around
that time, he was like a studio guy.
And Richie Blackmore claims thisdidn't happen, but other guys in
the band say it did. Richie Blackmore got sick and
couldn't do a Deep Purple concert one night, and
Christopher Cross stepped in andplayed guitar for that concert
for Deep Purple. I did know that.
I saw that on a documentary. He.
Had a lot of great songs back then.
Christopher Cross did. Even though they were, we've got

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a good name, so I mean Christopher.
Cross is a great name, very heavenly.
Top song. February 16th, 1980.
Do that to me one more time, Captain, and to Neil.
I love Captain and to Neil. You had their record.
I have their album, I have theirLevel Keep Us Together album
down here. It's one of the first albums I
owned. My parents bought it for me

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because I love that song so much.
We did a photo shoot with a banddown here years ago with us
holding that album up. The album is Captain and to Neil
sitting on the front of the album cover with a white
backdrop with them holding theirBulldogs.
So it's very cheesy album. Yeah, I remember them.
My other kid that I have a variety show or something.
When I Yeah, yeah. It's what I thought I remember
where his captain's at and all but.
Captain just passed away a couple years ago.

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Salute to the Captain, The top song, February 16th in 1981 was
Dolly Parton's 9:00 to 5:00. What came first, the song or the
movie? That's a very good question,
yeah. One that I don't have the answer
to. I wonder if.
Well, good job researching. Probably the song and then they
did the movie afterwards on thatI would imagine.
I would say she did the song to go with the movie.

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Well, we're gonna. See who's right after the show.
I'm gonna look it up while you're talking.
OK, OK, while the show's going on, we're gonna find out who's
right, yeah. We're doing on the fly research.
Hey, listen to this. Yeah, 9 to 5 was released in AC
as a single, but it was she wrote it while she was filming
the movie. Oh, OK.
Great to know. Yeah, there you go.

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February 16th, 1982 was the legalization of the divorce of
Farrah Fawcett and Lee Majors. The fall guy.
The fall guy, he. Took He wasn't a $6 million man.
I'm just kidding. No.
He took the fall for their marriage.
He looked a lot like the $6 million man.
Yeah, he did. I have a fall guy lunch box down

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here so ties in with Farrah Fawcett.
Did you see the remake or the movie The Fall Guy that came out
a couple years ago? No.
Is it good? It's pretty good.
Had Ryan Gosling and you did a good job.
You know, Farrah Fawcett decidedone of the saddest things about
her, other than that she died really young, was you know, she
died like 2 hours before MichaelJackson died, the same date.
It was like everybody was all tore up, like Farrah Fawcett

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died and all of a sudden it was like push her body out the way.
Michael Jackson died and they totally forgot about Farrah
Fawcett. Michael said hold my beer.
It's the same thing. I think I brought this up on
earlier podcast, Same thing. Kiss's drummer Eric Carr died
from heart cancer. And then like 2 hours later,
Freddie Mercury died and people was like, guess who is it?
Freddie Mercury? He died.
Forget it. Yeah.
Something with the mouth going. On I don't think Rolling Stone

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even like even acknowledged thatEric Carr died and kiss wrote
them like a real hateful letter because you know you not like
kiss, but the drummer for one ofthe biggest bands in the world
dime. You know you got to at least
acknowledge it. I.
Think if it had been their original drummer then they
probably would have made a bigger deal about it.
It's still the drummer for Kiss.I'm just saying I'm.
Quit your kiss hatred. We're not allowed that on this

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pocket. Listen, I'm just speaking the
truth. You can't handle the truth.
We're off track. Yes, February 16th, 1982 Simon
and Garfunkel The concert in Central Park was released.
What started? Simon and Garfunkel.
I do too, they have such great music.

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Paul Simon's one of the greatestsongwriters to ever walk the
face of the. Yeah, he is.
I just, I'm not fan of that kindof Miller acoustic stuff, but.
This concert came about because someone suggested Paul Simon
play a concert in Central Park, New York and it turned into a
reunion with Garfunkel after they had had a 11 year hiatus.

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This Central Park concert consisted of songs like Mrs.
Robinson, Scarborough Fair, WakeUp Little Susie, Slip, Sliding
Away, Bridge Over Troubled Waterand The Sound of Silence.
Now he's kind of lost his voice now.
That would have been a great concert to see though, in the
middle of New York. Like that.
I mean I've seen like it on YouTube and stuff before, but
actually be there live would have been something.

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Yeah, when you when you see a clip of those two together, it's
usually that clip of them at that concert.
Yeah. The top song February 16th in
1982 was Centerfold J Golsbad. Well, that's OK.
That's like one of those. My blood runs cold.
Yeah, my memory has just been soMount Rushmore stole 80s songs,
you know, along with that Jessie's Girl stuff that's right

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up there. Yeah, that is a great song if.
He's put in the 80s song Hall ofFame.
That would be one of the first one or two, you know,
nominations to go in. Plus, it's every guy's dream.
Sure. You like that girl that I
wouldn't give me the time of dayin high school?
Oh. So now she can hang up on my
wall, yeah. She's in Playboy now.
My brother, some girl that graduated with him, was a

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stripper in Hickory. His friend was telling me he
goes, yeah, run into her at the convenience store and she's just
getting off her, you know, her job at the strip club.
And I was like, wow. But they never went.
You know, I don't, I don't even know what happened.
No, they. Did they never went?
I would have, I'd have told everybody to hey, so and so,
such a strip club. Let's go.

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I'll tell you a funny story off air.
OK, wait a minute. We're going.
We're going to pause this for the story, people.
Oh my God, Chris. That was the greatest story I've
ever heard. I can't believe we can't tell
the audience. You got a certain things can't
be for everybody. Yep.
February 16th, 1984, Bill Johnson became the first

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American man to win Olympic goldin downhill skiing.
Hey. In the Winter Olympics are going
on right now, so that's pretty cool.
He became like a national hero after that, but then he never
competed again and his fame was just long gone.
What's more white bread than thename Bill?
Johnson. Bill Johnson.
I bet it was Williams. You.

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Yeah, Do you? Remember back in the 80's, the
wide world of sports? Yeah.
The agony of the fee. Yeah, the ski guy.
Yeah, I watched that the other day.
I said I want to because the Winter Olympics are going on.
Yeah, just let me watch this. And.
And that was just unreal. Yeah, I mean, that was always
one of the greatest things, watching that, the opening agony
of defeat. Yeah, yeah, poor guy.

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Top Song February 16th, 1984 Karma Chameleon Culture Club.
That's a good one too. Wouldn't be on the Mount
Rushmore on the. First good song it.
Would Well, yeah, I think they're they're Mount Rushmore,
more zombie. Do you really want to hurt me?
Right. Yeah, they'd be AB side on on
any single from that if you put out a so they would be on the
yeah, second disc, it would be on the first one.

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Yeah, they'd be that. That'd be the 80s song Hall of
Fame, where it'd be like, you know, eight or nine years in,
they'd be like, oh, they finallyput it in.
Yeah. Like Foreigner finally getting
in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame now.
Yeah, they finally put it in there.
Finally, those guys made it, yeah.
February 16th, 1985 Bruce Springsteen's single I'm On Fire
debuting. What a perverted song from a
perverted. Can't stand that guy.

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Debuted on the Escobord Hot 100 at #50. 4I I hate to admit I
used to like that song. I turn it every time now, but I
used to like that song. Are you little girl?
Who's your daddy home? Don't you say that in it.
Yes. Hey little girl, is your daddy
home something? Hey, that that album had seven

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top ten hits. Born in the USA did.
So someone liked it, someone liked it, someone besides.
That doesn't mean anything. If somebody liked it, that
doesn't mean anything. There's a lot of people who
don't like. I mean, people like KISS.
I mean, come on. I just said that because I said
earlier. #1 next week. I'd like to welcome our Co host
Chris, the other Chris. I've been demoted.

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February 16th, 1985's top song was Careless Whisperer from
Wind. Oh.
Great. Featuring George Michael.
See, I should down. I should down him now because
you did kiss, but I'm not that type of person.
Well, if you listen to his second album, Listen Without
Prejudice, volume one, yeah, he plays almost every instrument,
wrote all the songs, produced it, did everything on that.

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It's a phenomenal. Oh God, he's so talented, dude.
He's such talent. But yeah.
I agree with Chris. No, he's in heaven with Eric
Carr, the drummer from Kiss. That's right.
They're forming a band. Yeah.
Speaking of bands, do either of you guys remember Honeymoon
Suite? I've no, I've heard them on the
Hair Nation on. Canadian rock band Yeah.

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No, that's just the name of where you go, like on your
wedding, like to the hotel or whatever.
It's a band. I've heard of some of their
stuff. Must not be very.
Good, they get serious airplay. Their second album, The Big
Prize, was released February 16th, 1986.
It had four hits. Is that the?
It had how many? Four hits.
I love this album. This album was great.

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If you listen. To bad attitude.
You'll hear a lot of them. Bad attitude.
Feel it again. What does it take?
And all along you knew it was certified three times platinum
in Canada there. You go.
Stop making this up. We're not watching movies.
This isn't. It's not real.
Yeah, trust me, you listen to here Nation as long as I have to
have sometimes. And in between the Scorpion
songs actually play some bands like Honeymoon Swing.

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Listen to Bad Attitude, it's actually a good good song there.
You go, maybe we'll get him on apodcast.
And it describes me when I wake up every morning.
Yeah, tis true so. February 16th, 1986, the 28th
running of the Daytona 500. What year was that?
1986 all right let's see how good you are so the defending

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race winner yeah was who'd you say Chris Bill Elliott he was
the the defending race winner sohe won in 85 shot the.
Dark Todd's was. It but he did win the poll.
Was it Jeff Bodon or Bobby Allison?
Outside poll sitter was Jeff Bodon.
Did Jeff Bodon win the race? Jeff Bodon won the race.
For Hendrick, yeah. He led 101 laps.

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He won it because of fuel mileage for.
Him, one of our one of our loyallisteners, Todd Spiegel, was the
biggest Bill Elliott fan I've ever known.
Yeah, we a little story. My buddy Chris were leaving the
last race at North Wilkesboro in96 before they shut it down for
30 years. And we're riding in his truck
and traffic's like lined up going out, you know, and there's

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a motorcycle comes up and they're trying to get in front
of us. And the guy waves us and we, we
flagged him and then he turned his head back to wave like a
thanks. And it was Jeff Bodon.
He was riding a motorcycle out. Nice.
Yeah, it's my Jeff Bodon story. So you kind of met Jeff Bodon?
Yeah. Waved at us.
Did you go? He waved.
He waved at us. That was I met.
I met many, many a driver at North Wilkesboro Speedway and it

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was sad when it closed it down and now it's back open.
I'm gonna have to go to a race there this year or next year.
I met many a driver at CharlotteMotor Speedway good for you and
got their autograph and their picture.
Good for you. I know we're both special.
You are Released February 16th, 1986.
Wanted dead or alive? Power Ballad by Bon Jovi.
Yeah, not yeah. Yeah, it was on their third

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studio album, Slippery When Wet.My band covered that song for
years. Yeah, it's like a it's not a
hard song to play. It's probably why we played it.
But it was one that everybody went crazy for so.
Did you realize the solo from that song is ranked 100 on
Guitar World's Top 100 Guitar solos?
Yeah, it's. Great.
Oh, Richie Sambora. Yeah, I love the old Ritchie.
It's actually Co written by Richie.

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Is was that song part of that the Young Guns movement?
No, that was blaze of glory. That was blaze of glory.
I didn't know. I knew Blaze of Glory was.
I didn't know if that song was part of the two or not.
No. So Blaze of Glory was Bon Jovi,
Jon Bon Jovi solo. So yeah, Got.
You. Yep, number one song.
February 16th, 1986 How will I know about Whitney Houston?

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What a wonderful singer. Stay off the crack.
Stay off, Bobby Brown. Yeah, it's kind of messed up.
Bobby Brown's still living in Torn and Whitney Houston's gone.
And yeah, of course, I was the bigger Bobby Brown fan, so that
works. Out I love that.
My prerogative album or whatever.
It was, yeah. I told Jan that Jan wants to
turn her nose up at it, but thatwas like, that was the greatest
albums. We'll probably do that as one of

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our album reviews. That'd be awesome.
Like Jan has to listen to it. I listen.
I listen to that last year. I listen to it the other week,
driving in the snow to work. That's what album I put on
listen to. That's a great I'll listen to
that album if you'll listen to Honeymoon Sweets, the big prize.
There you go, Chris. Yeah, I don't think I looked at
it. It's not a real group.
Take that, take that bet, because it's rock music.

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You'll like it, Jan Haven't listened to Bobby Brown is like
torture. So I want to, I want her to have
to listen to the album and admitthat it's good.
OK, if she does, if she tells meshe listened to that one, I'll
tell her I'll listen to the other one.
All right, you can't just be saying it, you have to do it.
Yes, we need video proof crossedvideo proof that you listened to
it. February 16th, 1987 the cult
released their their single LoveRemoval machine.

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I didn't care much for the cult back then, but the last four or
five years I don't know I reallygot into.
Them so they got some good songs.
Yeah, that was from their album Electric, their third album.
Their album? Their third album named
Electric. It's Electric, not that one.
The number one song. February 16th, 1987.

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Living on a Prayer. Bon Jovi.
Man, he's all over this one. He is.
You mean the other song came before that one?
I would have thought living on aprayer was way before.
This was 1987. Yeah.
Oh, you think it was before that?
Yeah, I would have thought that,but OK.
Born February 16th, 1989 and I know y'all love this lady.
Unless you say who? Elizabeth Olsen.

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Do you know who that is? Yeah.
The younger sister to Mary Kate and Ashley.
She's. A good actress, she's.
The Scarlet Witch, right? Yeah, she's also in the first
Godzilla. Yes, 2014 Godzilla.
She was in Silent House, Avengers, a lot of Avenger
movies. Yeah, Captain America.
Pretty good. She's a pretty good role in
those. She's good.
Yeah, she's she's actually turned out to be the more

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talented of the. Yeah, I know.
It's weird. How you family?
The the Olsen twins are who you think of.
Then all of a sudden I remember one time saying, who is this?
And look at her going. She's one of the sisters of the
Olsen twins. And then you realize, oh, she's
the bigger of the the names now.Yeah, she.
Really is the the twins are likebillionaires with their all
their stuff. And she's, well, I mean, she's
not a billionaire, but she's made a lot of money acting.

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She's done a good job for herself.
Oh yeah, separating herself. Yep, the number one song.
February 16th in 1989 Straight up by Paula Abdul.
Yeah, I like Paula Abdul back then.
And there you have Jan's gnarly news.
Oh gnarly. All right.
Thanks for that news, Jan. So this brings us up to the meat
potatoes of this podcast, the the album known as No Jacket

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required by Phil Collins. So we went from last month
talking about a band with Phil Collin to this month talking
about Phil Collins. Did you do that on purpose?
No, but thanks for pointing thatout.
That made me seem very smart. No, let me lay it back.
The back story on horror doing this album.

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So I decided, hey, I don't know what we'll do when we do our
album reviews each month. I'll find out like the big album
that came out that month in the 80s, and we'll do that one.
So I started looking through a list and I see, was it face
value? Yeah, face value, Phil Collins.
And it's got in the air tonight.And did I miss again?
Which is my favorite Phil Collins song?

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I'm like, ah yes, he had two good.
Songs. It sold like 3 and a half
million copies. I'm like ah well we'll do that
one. Then me and Jazz start to listen
to it, realize this really isn'ta great album other than those
two songs. You know why it wasn't a great
album? Because the songs mainly were
him talking about his divorce. Yeah, well, so was this.
One, but there was. No instrumental songs on that
album. Yeah, it was.
This he decided to be more upbeat.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, but so jazz. I quaint do the other album, I
said, and I said, well, the other album was his, you know,
no jacket required was his biggest album, but it didn't
come out in March, so I didn't think or February.
So yeah, we're in February. Greg don't even know what month
it is. So I'm like, let me look, let me
look and see what albums come out in the month of February in
the in the decade of the 80s andI get like 3 albums down and

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like no jacket required. Phil Collins.
I said, oh OK, that album did come out.
It was. Released February 18th, 1985.
So I told Jen I'm like, well, I'll look through the list of
80s albums and we'll find something.
So the next day I'm looking at the albums and there's a couple
other big albums come out in February, but this one is like
in the top 25 biggest albums of the 80s.

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Like it's sold. It's sold just like 500,000 less
copies than Def Leppard Hysteria.
That's how big this album is, this diamond.
It's huge. So we did this and kind of glad
we did, but it's weird because Itold Chris today when I was
listening to it, I was on Spotify.
I looked and I didn't realize hehad another album between this
one and Face Value and then had a bunch of hits on it.

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And if you take his first three albums and put them together and
pull just the hits off of it, you'd have the greatest,
greatest hits album ever made. I mean, that guy could put out
some songs in the 80s. He had another one after this,
then one more that had like one known song, and then he kind of
died out in the 90s as far as being a solo star was.
What was the album that came after this one?

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I'll look it up. But it was it was full of album
hits. Too, it had more hits.
It had about more hits than thisone did against.
All odds was before this one. Right.
No, I think it's on the one after.
No, it might be yeah. Either way, I did learn before
we get into this album, I did learn by looking through his
albums that and it's pretty daggum smart because you'll hear
bands talk about how'd you come up with your album cover art and

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they're like, oh, we we studied on it.
We have blah, blah, blah. All his albums are just his
face, just with different like colors around this stuff.
It's pretty cool. Well, you look at him, he's
like, that's pretty cool, man. And the really cool thing is
when he reissued him like 30 years later and remastered him,
they did the same album cover, but they took a recent picture
of him. So if you've got the original
album, you've got him that like,you know, 28 and then if you

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find the remaster, he's like 60 something.
It's it's really cool how they did that.
Yeah, that other album's called Butts.
Seriously. Yeah.
What's the big songs on it? Hold on, let me pull it up.
I was just going off the the list.
But you know, funny thing is today I was with my daughter and
my granddaughter at her book fair lunch thing and I'm
listening to face value and my daughter gets in the truck.

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My daughter was born in 93, and she goes, hey, is that the guy
who sings the Tarzan songs? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. The whole 90s was him doing
stuff for Disney. It was wild because he won
Grammys and the Oscars off some of his music.
Oh yeah, he's, he's, he was phenomenal.
And I mean. No jacket required.
Won 3 Grammys. Do what else say that?
Again, no jacket required. Won him 3 Grammys, including

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Album of the Year. Yeah, So Jen, tell us a little
bit about this album. And two Brit Awards for album of
the year and best male solo. Artists, I guess right the Brit
awards, yes not to be confused with the Brit Awards for they
talk about your. Water bottles.
Yeah, it reached number one in the UK for five consecutive
weeks and was on top in the US for seven non consecutive weeks.

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I think it was the second best selling album of 1985 in the UK
behind Dire Straits. Yeah, Brothers and arms,
Brothers in Arms. I think it's kind of more
impressive when you're like 7 non consecutive weeks.
That means your number one album, it falls off for a week
or two and then clowns back to number one.
That's more impressive, just staying number one, I think, but
what do I know? It was certified Diamond in the

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US because it sold over 12 million copies.
That was the last, I think it was 2001 was when they last
updated it. It was 12 million.
So he's probably sold two or three more since then.
It's still one of the best selling albums of all time.
Some of the notable singles on the album, the four major ones,
were One More Nights, The Studioand I don't have the other two

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written down. OK.
That was really good. OK.
Go ahead, Chris. It was.
Don't lose my number, Yeah, And Take Me Home.
There you go. Yeah, take good job.
Yeah, that's a great one. Yeah, and that other album Real
Quick had I think 7 singles on it, seven hits on it, 7 like big
ones. But it didn't sell anywhere near
this one. I think it sold 6,000,000, yeah.
It's good though, yeah. But yeah, those are the four big

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ones off of this, the four singles.
Yeah. By the way, before we get into
the Song Talk studio, did you know that that was just a
working word? He made it up when he was
writing a song, just like a filler word.
There's I've read a lot of songswhere people say, yeah, they did
this for like a filler song wordand then he just left it in and
that was, it has no meaning. Sussudio does.

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The story that I originally readwas that he got he paid a
prostitute and then she drugged him and left him and he wrote
the song SU SU the Ho but they changed it.
Really, really, Greg, Really sorry.
That's a bad joke for you. Some of the guest vocalists on
this album are Helen Terry, Peter Gabriel and Sting.

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I think it's cool that that Peter Gabriel would be on this
album helping him, you know, that, you know, Phil, you know,
what's the proper word? He didn't take over.
He he perceived him as the lead vocalist for Genesis.
Yeah. Well, you know, that's the
probably the best drummer that Peter Gabriel ever dealt with
was Phil Collins. That's one thing about I talk
about it on one of these songs. People don't realize what a

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beast Phil Collins was on drums.Like, he people look up to him.
Drummers. Neil Peart even talked about how
he's one of the greatest drummers was Phil Collins.
I mean, that early Genesis, he was a prog drummer, like
progressive rock drummer, you know, Genesis, progressive rock
before he took her right and made him poppy.
But yeah, he was a beast. And you see, it's funny too.
You see early pictures of Genesis and he had like a, he

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had long hair and a beard and. And you'd not believe that's the
Phil Collins that was in the 80sbecause he was like this hippie,
just rock looking drummer. Yeah.
And then he started looking likea school teacher and he probably
has the most famous drum. Oh yeah, solo of all time.
That just that little snippet. I mean, there's nothing that's
the most recognizable drum of any, probably any drummer in the

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history of music. Yeah, as far as breakdown in a
song, you know that. Yeah.
And the second would be, ah, crap, I can tell you his name.
Kenny Aronoff and Jack and Diane.
Oh yeah. Yeah, that was a cool how?
Yeah, but anyway. Once you got there, Jim.
Well, Collins said he did make amore conscious decision in this
album to make it more up tempo and more dance oriented because

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he wanted to get away from some of his previous material that
was influenced by matters surrounding his first divorce.
And, and it is, it is a lot moreup tempo and a lot more
movement. Look up Phil Collins in divorces
because that guy has been through it.
He screwed over so many times. I mean, the I won't, you know,
he probably caused a lot of them, but that last one that he

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had, she took like everything hehad.
They get divorced and he, you know, builds his stuff back up
and then he fell for again and he got back together and then
she refused to leave his house when they split up.
It's a whole thing. I mean, it was like almost
claims of like her being abusiveto him, like the last seven or
eight years. It's just a lot of crazy stuff
with him. Yeah, and he went through a lot
of stuff with the manager who took all his money.

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And stuff like that. He's he's not been lucky when it
comes to. Business and money.
He had to tour for like 3 years straight to earn back all the
money and there's a. Reason you saw him touring with
Genesis sitting in a chair. He needed to have you got to
make your money back. Yep.
Anything else you got there, Jim, before you get into the
music? Well, it's said that this album
name came about from Phil Collins getting turned down to

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go into a bar with Led Zeppelin lead vocalist Robert Plant and
the. Plant had a Jack, had a nice
like fancy jacket on and Collins.
Got to go in Collins I think. Collins had on like a members
only jacket and they're like, sorry you, you can't come in
here. Is this a jacket?
Jackets required. And he's like, I'm wearing a
jacket and they're like that. Not that.
Not that kind of jacket. The Major D told him that the

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the jacket that he had on was not proper and he said that was
the most angry he had ever been in his life.
Yeah, Phil Collins got treated like a common, you know, poor
person. Which is also why you're talking
about the album cover is his face.
If you'll notice, this one is the red yeah colored face.
And it's meant to be because he was so angry.

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Yeah, they sprayed him. You can see water droplets
supposedly on his face, but you've got to have, you know, I
guess a good copy of it to see it.
But. Yeah, it's to emphasize that he
was hot and and mad. Pretty neat.
Yeah, they sprayed him with glycerol.
Glycerol. Yeah, which was made him.
That's a good song by Bush Glycerol.
Made him look like he was sweatyand hot.

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Yeah. Another song my band covered
back in the day. We did it.
We did that song and I did all the league guitar part and Bill
played an EBO which is an electric bow which you hold over
the strings on a guitar. Makes sound like a violin.
We were so proud of ourselves myfriend come saw our band that
night. This is going off topic, but
when we took our break we so proud we'd nailed that song and
Jamie come to me, he says. I said, what do you think?

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He goes don't ever do that Bush song again.
So that's not y'all's music. I said OK and we never did it
again. So.
That's a great song, but yeah. I watched a video of Phil
Collins explaining the the albumname, and during it he said
often you'd spend $200 per nightin a New York hotel and they're
glad to take your money, but they won't let you have a drink

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in the bar unless you have the correct jacket.
Yeah, it's crazy. I bet that guy felt like a real
idiot. He did because Collins talked
about all this that happened to him at that bar on late night
with David Letterman and The Tonight Show and, you know, just
talk about how bad this restaurant treated him.
So eventually, the restaurant, the management sent him a Sport

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coat and an apology letter and told him to come to their
restaurant whenever he wanted. So they buried the hatchet.
Yep. And I couldn't find out though,
did he ever go back to this restaurant?
Probably. I went back with that.
A jacket? Yeah, do something.
Yeah, don't you know who I am? And did y'all notice the
pictures on the inside of the album?
I don't know if y'all looked at any of that.

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We had the vinyl LP here. Well, when I downloaded this on
my phone, yeah, in my Apple Music, it doesn't have the
inside cover, so I don't. Get so the the inner sleeve and
publicity materials, Yeah. Showed Collins wearing a suit
that was several sizes too big. Yeah.
So you will see those. You'll see it Chris later.

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Because when we really decided to do face value, I got on eBay
and won an auction for face value on cassette.
And then it came here and that'sthe night that me and Jan
started looking at it and playing music on.
We're not doing this one. So the cassette stand on the
table. So me being me, the Def Leppard
promo we did with the CD and all, it was so good.
I jumped back on eBay that nightand won the vinyl record of it

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for like 10 bucks on eBay and it's supposed to be in here a
week ago and we got snowed out and I saw today we finally got a
thing. It's delivered.
It's outside of everything. So we have the vinyl record to
shoot promo stuff with it. So we'll we'll show all the
stuff in it. No need to go to Google Images,
people. We'll have it on the Pixel
Underground Facebook page. Yeah, yeah.

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Go to there. Yes.
Go to there. Yes, go to there so.
You know what I mean? We'll miss that's.
A good album title go to there. That'll be a podcast episode one
day. Go to their places to places we
visited in the 80s. Go to their.
These are unpaid idea man all. Right, let's go over some of the

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songs. So we're going to order.
OK? I don't.
Jen, how many songs did you listen to?
The whole album on Spotify, right?
Yes. OK.
You did too, Chris. I got the bonus track.
I listen to it on Apple Music. Is that what you're getting at
if you? Listen to the bonus track
There's There's 11 songs on Spotify.
The last song was We Said Hello Goodbye, but that was not on the

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cassette or the album. That was one they stuck on the
CD when they put it out and it'snot been on any reissues, so
we'll throw it in at the end. But really, the album is 10
songs. That that song was made for the
soundtrack for the movie Playingfor Keeps.
There you go. So.
I learned a lot. We won't be doing the movie

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Replaying for Keeps because apparently we have to do movies
that people know and have seen amillion times because people
love the Trading Places one. But we didn't get as many
listens on the over the top, which is the best one we've done
so far I think. People just don't have good
taste, I get. You jerks, go back and listen.
So maybe they don't like Sylvester Stallone.

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I don't know, but go back and listen to the Overtop episode if
you haven't. It's really good anyway, so that
brings. A read.
Listen to it tonight. OK, good.
So yeah, the first song, Sasudio, and I mean everybody
knows this song. I told you when we were at we
went to go to that, went to thatconcert to go see Trickster and
I thought we were doing this album and I said it's got my
favorite all time Phil Collins song on.

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He said, what is that, Sasudio? This is my all time favorite
Phil Collins song. Nothing comes close to me.
Yeah, like it even better than In the Air Tonight.
It's just my favorite song. I just, I love.
This song is because it reminds you of a certain time or
something in the 80s. Or you just like that song.
I don't know, I like that song the first time I heard it.
I mean, I don't know, I like just the whole all musically,

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everything about it. I.
Think it just feels so good. Coming out of mouth.
It feels so good coming out of your mouth.
It's fun to sing, yeah. It is.
We've got some nice horns and all that stuff in it too.
It's very, very in your face. So we're all three, of course,
giving Sasudio a thumbs up. And it's good that they put this
song first, but it's somewhat bad too.

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This song is so great and it gets you so pumped up.
But then the next two songs are just.
Like, all right, but let's go tothe next song.
It's only you know and I know and here's my notes I had on
that song. I put decent up tempo.
Sounds like it could be in any 80s movie training montage.
It is a very 80s sounding 80s movie song.

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I mean, I don't know why he didn't try to license that song
to every movie in the 80s because it's made for every.
It could be a training montage or even like a a drama comedy
sort of love thing. It would have worked either way.
It's a good song, but it's it's dated, I put it that way.
Well, to me, they pump you up with Sasudio and you're all into
it and you're like, oh, this album is going to rock.

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I'm just going to rock out. And it's like they put the
brakes on and then you have to listen to these slow song.
If you listen to the first albumthat he put out, it was full of
these kind of songs. Yeah, just like you're slow.
I mean, not super like slow dragme down, you know, I'm depressed
kind of stuff, but it it's just that it was very similar to what

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he'd done in that previous albums to me.
But you're right, it would have been better to put it a little
bit deeper in the album or or not even on the album.
I think the only thing that really saves this song for me is
I do think it would fit great inthe 80s movie montage.
And then I was thinking, all right, looking at that way, I
like it. So we're giving what y'all give
out like a middle of the road oranybody giving it a thumbs.
Down. It's a skip for me.

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OK, I think I'd keep this song on my playlist, but yeah, I'd
skip it more than I'd listen to it.
But I wouldn't totally take it off, Jan, would you?
Take it off. I would take it off.
Well, that brings us to. The it's a let down after the
studio. Song #3 Long, long way to go.
Here's my notes on that song. Sounds like he's going for In
The Air Tonight Part 2 with thisone and it's very sounds like

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he's building up to another drumsolo and it doesn't.
This song was considered one of Colin's more popular songs that
was never released as a single. Because I would have took this
song as a filler song for sure. And it's his most political
song, really. Yep, that's why he got Sting to
help him sing it. Yeah, it's just, it's just, I
don't know it it's just, yeah, Ijust hear it.

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And I think like, oh, here we go, you know, in the air.
Not Part 2. Sting and Collins had had met
through Band-Aid and then they performed together at Live Aid.
So when Collins was working on this song, he thought Sting
would be the perfect person to bring in and get it.
So Chris here, what on this one,what do you think?
Nah, Mom. Alright.
Yeah, I already listened to it today and I was just like, I

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made it through the majority of them.
I'm like, I'm bored. I skipped.
I went all the way through just to see if he went for a drum
solo. This is the only one that I that
I said yeah, I'm good and just skipped it.
The only one of the whole album I did that on.
Well, the next one is called I Don't Want to Know, and my notes
on that were another one that would fit into any 80s movie
soundtrack. Upbeat and catchy.

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But it's hard to believe that the guy, this is a guy that did
In the Air Tonight and I missed again, did this song.
But then it kicks into a rippingguitar solo at the end.
It's like it sounds movieish. And at the end, exactly, it rips
on guitar and I'm like, all right, you saved it.
I like this song. When I got this song, good, OK.
When I got to this song I was like why is he writing so many

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songs with no in the title? There's a lot of songs about
knowing. Did y'all catch that?
No, but not you say it. Only you know and I know.
I don't want to know what's up with no, I don't know.
I don't know. No.
Do you know Chris? I don't know.
I really don't know. I don't want to know.
Yeah, but this song, though, I was like, this is very 80s movie

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sounding. But then, like I say, there was
a good guitar bit at the end, soit's like, all right, it rocks.
I'll give this one a thumbs up. When You Say is a great 80s
theme song kind of thing, you know, you think about him and
his movie success in the 80s with and Kim and Kenny Loggins
are like synonymous with 80s movies columns.

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Yeah, at the next song, of course, one of his biggest
songs. Yeah, One more, One more night
and. Never skip this song.
That's Don't you love this song until you really like, Yeah.
Never skip this song. OK, here's my notes on that one.
I mean, we all know this one good mellow song.
Not my normal cup of tea, but hard to argue its brilliance.
Here's what got me thinking and I had to look it up.
This whole song I think could I could replicate on my Yamaha 80s

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keyboard, which I have down here.
I got a keyboard for Christmas in the 80s.
It's like a full size keyboard and I was this to it thinking
that's the sounds of my keyboard.
So I looked it up and as far as the keyboard and drums go, he
did this song on like a four or eight track demo recorder and
then just uploaded it to the big.
He didn't changed the demo, he just added to it on the big
mixing board. But the keyboard sounds he did

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on a Yamaha DX7 keyboard and thedrums were on a rolling drum
machine. And I'm listening, I'm going
This is nothing but a keyboard and a drum machine.
And I looked it up and sure enough, 90% of that song is a
Yamaha keyboard and rolling drummachine.
You have the same keyboard. No.
Mine's like to step down, but it's a Yamaha keyboard.
It's a full size keyboard. Nice.
Yeah, so he, you know, it's wildto know that he took that on a

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there's a hit was his demo. When you record demos, it's very
rare that demos make it on the final album.
They're just like your scratch track to record it the right
way. But for him to take that off his
eight track, which is wild to meto know that too.
Because in the 80s you're recording your demos on four
track tape recorder. You would, it's hard to explain,
but you, you could record 4 tracks and lay them on top of

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each other and that's what they would do like 4 tracks.
Somebody recorded drums on one track to base on one or the
guitar on the third one and thensing over it to make a rough
demo. And to know that he had a 8
track demo recorder was pretty wild because I've never really
heard of guys talk about recording on an 8 track.
That's like a full mixing board to some people's an 8 track.
So we all going to give that a thumbs up, right?

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Absolutely, yeah. Yeah.
OK. Which brings us to Don't lose my
number. Which is the first song on side
too? Yeah, I mean, this is a good
fast tempo banger and it still holds up.
Oh yeah, it's a great song. It doesn't sound 80s dated
compared to some of those other ones.
It's wild how some of the songs and this album are very 80s
sounded and some of them are like, you know, and this goes
back to our Def Leppard talk. That album sounds like it was

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recorded yesterday. I mean, it does not sound dated,
you know, But this, this album sounds dated in some spots.
It does. It sounds very of it's time.
And there again, this was the first song on the B side side
too. Yeah, it's a fast go.
And it pumps you up, gets you going, and you think, oh, the
next song I'm gonna rock out to.And then, yeah, breaks on again.

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Yep. OK, so the the next song is who
said I would and it's fast tempoish kind of.
But again it has a definite 80s sound and I put again another
one that would totally fit in an80s movie.
So I researched this song a little bit and it was released
as a single. However, it was released a
single in 1991. He put a live album out and they

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put this out as one of the singles.
So I saw that today too. Yeah, it came out 5-6 years
later as a single after this album, but it it sounded 80s
dated. Yeah, I'll give it a A on that
1E. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm good either here or there.
I can take it or leave it. Right, so #8 doesn't anybody
stay together anymore? Does not anybody stay together

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anymore? Is it doesn't or does.
Not if you take the contraction out.
It does not. I was like a Road Runner, I'm
talking. To you.
No, no, I'm just saying doesn't does not.
I'm like that just seems like a weird title.
Does not anybody. Is that a double negative there?
OK, I've got some trivia on thissong.
You got someone this Jan or you me to.
OK, you tell the trivia. You go ahead.
I'm probably. Going to step on your trivia?
Go. Ahead you go.

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Ahead, I'll do it. This was a song where he was
making a personal message. The song was made in response to
everyone around him getting a divorce, including his manager,
friends and himself years before.
So you still got some more on this, right, Jim?
About him singing this. Yeah, yeah, tell the rest of the
story. So Colin said that he sang this
song at the Charles, Prince of Wales 40th birthday party and

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little did he know that the Princess divorced from his wife
Diana, Princess of Whales, wouldhappen just a short time later.
Princess of Whales. What I say?
Princess of Whales like whales like the fish or the not fish?
Water whales aren't fish either.I wish people in podcasts.
Could. See me shooting you a bird?
Right now, shoot me a bird. Right now, Mammal.

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Whales are mammals. That's right.
Yeah. But he was singing.
Doesn't anybody stay together anymore?
And he was Prince Charles Aryer.Like, I'm leaving this woman.
That has to be something, you know.
I mean, he left her for somebodyso hot too.
Yeah. She's smoke, sure.
Yeah, Chris, you want to borrow my glasses?
I'm being very sarcastic. That would be funny though, if

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he sang this song thing. I'm going to sing this song for
this wonderful couple, the Prince and Princess and then of.
Wales. And then like a month, a month
later, it's like announcement, Chris Charles's left.
Diana is like, Oh my God, I'm a moron.
You know, yeah, I could have SunStudio.
That's my British accent. Good job.
With her crocky blow me. I wonder if he told the Princess

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of Wales to lose his number. He told her, he asked her out
and she dumped it. She said no.
So he said I missed again. I think I missed again #9 That
song is yeah, yeah. I'm not fanning that last song
inside out, so here's my notes on that one.
Maybe the most underrated song on this album has Collins

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crushing it on drums. It's a good slow rocker.
I like this one a lot, and it comes in near the end when he's
kind of losing me a little. The chorus is brilliant.
This is the song, the only song this whole album, that really
shows off his drum work. He's banging all the drums on
this song. It's good.
It's like classic feel on drums.That's what I got out of that
song. Yeah, I think he's, I think with

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this album and the other one though, you know, I think he's
trying to go away from that being the focus of his drums.
I think he's more focused on hissongwriting and singing.
It's. Like this one, he's let me throw
down a little bit, show you whatI can still do if I have to.
You know, when he became the front man, especially solo.
I, I saw a video the other week of him.

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You know, the guy's balding. He's wearing the microphone that
was cool in the 80s. It's not now the one over your
head with the the the little microphone that comes out past
your cheek and. The drive through operator.
Yeah, the drive through operatorMic and he's he's walking around
singing like in the air tonight.And he's walking around singing
and singing, and you see a little drum set sitting in a

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corner and he like, time's the perfect, walks in and sits down
and does a little drum solo and kicks in.
It's like he had to keep some drums in a live stuff show
people. Yeah, this is me.
He was. No way he's going to give that
drum solo up to his touring drummer.
No, no, absolutely not. Yeah.
And they even named the Pixar movie after this movie, after
this song. So that's good.
Yeah. Yeah.

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Jan, what do you think about that one?
It was good. I didn't mind it.
It was a no skip, yeah. Which brings us to song #10 the
last on this album, Take Me Home.
What's your thoughts on this one?
Very singable. Yeah, this might be my favorite
song on this album. I don't know.
I put such an homage to the 80s.I love this song.

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It's not a rocker, but it's upbeat and fun and takes me back
to the decade from the first second It kicks in.
Powerful chorus, and here's whatI get most of that song.
This is something I said today, Chris.
I had a thought on this album that was going to wait when you
hear the chorus. OK, when I was reading up a long
time ago about Phil Collins, when they decided to make him
the the lead singer of Genesis, he sang, you know, backup for on

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the albums. They all they all used to sing
harmonies with Peter Gabriel, but they realized that the only
one that really blended perfectly with Peter Gabriel was
Phil the drummer. So the last couple albums, I
guess they did Genesis with Peter Gabriel, all the harmonies
and stuff on the album were PhilCollins and Peter Gabriel
because their their voices meshed perfectly.

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So that's how he knew all the vocal stuff.
So when they were rehearsing singers, they told Phil help
these people, they're rehearsinglearn these songs because you
know him. So he would say this is how you
sing this song and he would singit to him.
And they rehearse a couple people and that's when they
realize Phil just just take overlead vocals because you're a
great singer, you know the songs.

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Why are we bothering interviewing people for a lead
singer? And that's how I got to be lead
singer. Well, I'm listening to song and
I'm like the the harmonies on this song that please take me
the harmonies sounds so good. But that's got to be and that's
why I look back and that's him and Peter Gabriel on this song
harmonizing perfectly on this song.
You can hear, if you listen to it, you can hear Peter Gabriel's

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voice like blending perfect withPhil Collins.
So next time go back and listen this song, anybody that's just
listening to this and listen to the chorus where they're singing
Please Take Me Home and you can hear Phil Collins voice perfect.
But then listen again and you hear Peter Gabriel's voice
perfect. They are blending so perfect
together. I see now why he sang back up in

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Genesis with Peter Gabriel so much.
They are perfect together. It's wild, you know, staying, I
think Sting singing that one too.
But you don't hear sing. You just hear Peter Gabriel and
Phil Collins. It's wild to listen to.
So what do you think on this song, Chris?
I love this song. I was singing with it today and
I hadn't heard this song in a couple years.
Probably, yeah. But when I got it, it's like

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it's one of those things where it's embedded in your brain.
You don't forget it once you've you've heard it and sang it as
much as we did listen to it backin the 80s.
It just comes right back to you.I'll absolutely love this song.
How do you like this Is the album closure, Jim?
I love this song. I can't say anything bad about
it. It's it's all good stuff.
It's a definite not skip song. They book ended this album with

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a great start off the studio finished with that Take Me Home.
It's it's a good I don't know ifthey planned it out that way or
I'm sure they did. There has to be a rhyme or
reason to how they laid these songs out.
But to close with that one that was very good.
And so before we give our overall take on this album, we,
if you did have the CD version of song in there called We Said

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Hello, Goodbye. And it's it's OK.
It's I, I actually like this song a lot.
I did. I listened to it today.
It's a very deep song. It's deep.
It's not have been the first time that I actually ever
remember hearing it even you know, but I mean I don't
remember this song till I re listened to this album and I
listened to it and I was like I I listened to it through one

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time and I played it right back so I could hear it again.
I enjoyed this song. I the lyrics are great on it.
I mean, I just thought it was a good song.
I don't know why it wasn't on there originally like on the
cassette, because on the CD it makes not a lot of sense to me.
Yeah, it was 44. The album was like 44 minutes
long. So they probably are like, you

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know, you can only put some. Yeah, that's.
Correct. But what I wrote on that song
was that he really pulled out the In the Air Tonight echo
effect on that song. He definitely used the same
effects on that song as he did on In the Air Tonight.
So, I mean, it was all right, but enjoyable.
It's if you were going to put iton a vinyl, though, you got to
throw it up in the middle because it ruins the flow of

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that album if you put that as the last song.
And I misspoke, it was a remix of that song that was on the
soundtrack for Plan for Keeps, not the exact song.
Oh really? They added additional guitar and
they took out the orchestra part.
So now that we've discussed all 10 to 11 songs, let's give our

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overall thoughts on this album. Well, wait, Jan has something to
add. I had one more cool tidbit that
I found out. That's you.
The lead singles were Sesudio inthe UK and One More Night in the
US. Both songs had what?
No, it just, it kills me why they do that.
You know, the first couple Beatles albums and the first
couple Rolling Stones albums, There's multiple versions of it

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because you know, they only had these songs on the British
version and there was totally like 4 songs the same and the
rest of different songs, the American version.
I don't understand that at all. Just make it all the same or.
Just yeah, I don't. If you're going to put on the
record, put out the record. Don't, don't say.
Well, the Americans obviously won't like this as much as the
Brits. So let's change the whole let's

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add three more songs, pull theseoff, change the structure.
It makes no sense. I've never understand why they
did that. We'll never know.
Yeah. But both songs had music videos
that were shot in a London pub, which was owned by Richard
Branson. Oh, really?
Yeah. I thought that was pretty cool.
The Virgin Atlantic guy. Yeah, that's Richard Branson.
Yeah, the guy that owns that place out in Missouri where

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everybody goes and yeah, Branson.
Branson, MO. Both videos featured Collins
playing both before and after the building closes.
Yeah, I thought that was pretty neat.
You know, what's funny too is I just showed this Jen the other
night too, where he talks about him.
And it kind of took me back whenI read this that it was him and

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Robert Plant going into a restaurant bar when they
wouldn't let him in. Because I always assumed it was
both Plant and Jimmy Page that that I think they both have sort
of held. They did Live Aid in England and
America because of the time schedule thing.
Phil Collins is the only one that played both and he played

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that morning at the British LiveAid jumped on the Concorde jet
and flew to Philadelphia and played for the American Live
Aid. And one of the things he did at
the American Live Aid was play drums for reformed Led Zeppelin
who got together for first time in like 7 years.
And for years, Plant and Robert and Paige have been have said
that Phil Collins ruined their performance because said he was

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speeding up stuff. He didn't know the songs.
But I showed it to Jan the othernight and we were watching.
I said listen. Collins was perfect.
Yeah, it wasn't Collins. It was Jimmy Page coming off
heroin and with a with a guitar that was out of tune.
Robert Plant's voice was gone. So it was shocking to me that it
was actually him and his Robert Plant were still buddies and
went to that restaurant because I was in their assumption they

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still don't like each other after that live anything.
I know that Jimmy Page just slams him to this day.
He's like, yeah, Phil Collins ruined our set, You know, it's
like. Well, what I found humorous was
that everything I read on him naming this what he did because
of the story about him trying togo into this pub or whatever.
Yeah. That Robert Plant got to go in,

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Yeah. Robert Plant went on in.
He went on in. Yeah, I did.
I did catch it. Nowhere could I find where,
Robert Plant said. Well, if you can't go in, I'm
not going. In I was looking at the exact
same thing today. I was like, did he, did he turn
around and like, well, if he can't come, I'm not going.
But apparently he didn't. He just went on left field.
So maybe that was when we were fighting.
He's like, I'll get you for screwing up our songs, you know,

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even though he didn't so. Yeah, he didn't mess up that
set. Chris, you want to look that up
tonight? Pull up Led Zeppelin Live Aid
and watch it Give me your thoughts on.
It I. Will quiz you on next week's
power ballot. Show there will be a test.
So overall, what do you all think of this album?
It's it's very obviously not allkiller.

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No filler like Hysterical. Right.
Right. You know, and again, I think
it's of the time when it came out of why it sold so many
albums. Half of this album deserves to
be on a playlist. Yeah.
But then the other half, yeah, songs that I would just skip and
and not put. But again, this might be a of

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the Times album, you know? Like, those songs might have hit
better in the 80s and they really don't know, you know?
Yeah, yeah. They did something right because
you know, I would have swore. I would have swore to anybody
before we did researching for these albums that the the album
within the air tonight was the biggest Phil Collins record ever
put out. And it wasn't.

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It wasn't even close. It was just the lead up.
It was leading me into it. I just, to me, this album is
good. Not like phenomenal.
It's not like more of a great, but it's a great.
It's extremely well produced, put together.
Songs are great. I mean, songs are really good.
I mean, it's just not for me. It's not my favorite album of

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his SO, but it's still a good album.
I don't know if I would have a favorite album here as I think I
can put together our greatest hits album here.
That would be 1212 songs that are just like a blow.
Just melt your face, right? And you know, and then leave off
the filler. So I might do that.
I'll put together. I think I'll put.
Together the. Pixel Pixel Underground official
Yeah, Phil Collins, the only. Thing I like about Apple Music

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is they do essentials so you canlike you look at the Phil
Collins essentials, whoever essentials and they and it's
basically the biggest hits off of every one of the albums.
Like they kind of do what you'retalking about doing.
And to me, that's to me. You can't have 80s pop music,
rock music, whatever you want tocategorize it without Phil

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Collins. It just doesn't.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's. Such a big part of that.
And the genesis was big too. I mean, you know, they they.
So he's had his hand in a lot ofand it.
Brings me to what I mentioned toyou today when we were going
back and forth on Facebook. Why is staying in the Rock Roll
Hall of Fame as a solo performerand with the police and Phil

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Collins is only in with Genesis?Yeah, it does.
But here this Chris. I forgot this today.
Arguing that point is going to make it even worse.
Peter Gabriel's in as a solo artist.
Yeah. He's Peter Gabriel's, not Phil
Collins as a solo artist. I'm sorry, you know, and
somebody needs to put him in as a solo artist before he's dead

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because that that'll be a crime if they let him pass, you know?
And his health? Essentially not.
Great. Right now, yeah.
His health isn't that great. Yeah, he needs to go in.
So all joking aside, you know how much I dislike KISS and all
that stuff. They should have been in the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame yearsbefore they got.
In Yeah Yeah A. Lot of, I mean, it's all

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political. It's all political.
There's people who have one or two poppy songs or whatever and
they're in the Hall of Fame and I'm like, dude, you don't.
You don't deserve to mop the floors of the Hall of.
Fame there's. Politics out of my music.
There's our third music podcast for March or second one from
March since we're going to do 2 this month with this and the

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Ballads. In March, we're going to do our
album review and 80s bands that should be in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame. OK, that'll get some people
riled up. Yeah.
And I've got a number one right now, and I won't say it, I'll
tell you off the air, but there's one band that should
have been in a couple years ago and still not in and I'm not a
fan of anymore, but they should be in.
So anyway, all right. OK, I look forward to hearing it

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all. Right, so people, you heard that
next week, TuneIn for we discussed the big hair balance
of the 80s. TuneIn to us.
We'll fly you to the angels next.
Week. I got my lighter out right now,
waving it back and forth as you talk.
Listen, it's only a week. Heaven isn't too far away.
The truth. Be our Angel and check in on
that podcast. Y'all keep hanging tough while
we do. Simmer down and save all your

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love for our podcast. And you better, yeah.
And you better listen, because you don't know what you got to
us gone people. You know I'm gonna bring my love
gun. OK, that's a good way to sign
off. All right, Chris, till next
week. Peace out.
Hang on, Hang on the phone. Hang on.
I will. All.
Right, Jim. Shine on the Pixel.
People.