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March 2, 2026 52 mins

In this episode Greg, Jan and Chris discuss the passing of Hollywood and 80s legend Robert Carradine. We discuss some of his most famous roles and then do a discussion on his movie "Revenge of the Nerds" and how it even with some dating issues still stands up as an 80s iconic movie. This is a must-listen episode..check it out! #80s #nostalgia #80smovies

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The Pixel. People pod.
It's going to be a great year. Yeah, Louis, it is going to be a
great year. And guess what?
It's going to be a great podcastthis week.

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So welcome to the Pixel People pod.
Welcome to my glasses, The PixelPeople pod This week.
I'm Greg. And as always, say hello, Jen.
Hello, Jan. And.
Chris, what's going on guys? There you go.
We're back again. And I have a bit of a cold this
week, so I sound rough. And I guess we're doing a
podcast now. I'll be documenting my illnesses

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weekly over the years. I can go back.
Oh yeah, I was sick that week. He claims it's not mono.
Yeah, it's not when you get old.Yep.
So this week's podcast is on themovie Revenge of the Nerds.
We did a pivot this week becauseit was originally on 16 Candles,
which we will do next movie. We were looking forward to that,
but then Robert Carradine died and we decided to pivot because

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we were going to do Revenge of Nerds eventually.
And we decided to do it now because it's a staple of the
80s. Personally, right up there in my
top three favorite comedies of the 80s.
And when Jan and I rewatch it the other night, just to
refresh, I told Jan, I said you're really lucky because I'm
fighting ever urge not to quote every line of this as it goes.
I watched the movie during the 80s and probably never watched

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it again until the other night. Greg, however, has it memorized
and watched it all. Through the 90s I would say I've
seen this movie 50 plus times. Chris, did you originally see in
the 80s or 90s? Oh yeah, I love this movie.
Every time it's on, whether it was like USA or AMC or H,
whatever, no matter where it wasat, I would stop and just finish

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watching it. Yeah, even editing.
Yeah, even editing. It was worth watching.
And then next time, pick a moviethat is not like going on a
scavenger hunt to find it online.
Yeah, we'll talk about that because I can't find any reason
why it's not streaming. So anyway.
That's ridiculous. Yep.
So before we get in all of that,we have Jan's Not only news.

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Here we go. Hit us with the news, Jen.
Today's gnarly news for March 2nd, 1980 Something Born March
2nd, 1980 Rebel Wilson. Of course, we know we're from
Bridesmaids, Pitch Perfect movies and Workaholics and all

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other kinds of stuff. Chris, what do you remember that
movie she did with what's his name played Allie G?
Was it brothers? Did you ever see that movie?
No, I've tried to avoid her. Movies, yeah, she's give or take
she's kind of quit being funny now, but she's.
Like Gentleman Hill, she lost she.
Lost her weight, forgot to be funny.
That's why I refused to lose weight so.

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Good job. A.
Lot of birthdays this week. A lot of birthdays.
Born March 2nd, 1981, Bryce Howard, which is the oldest
child of filmmaker Ron Howard. She's been in a lot of good
stuff. She's been in a lot of stuff.
She's in. Jurassic World.
Jurassic World. The village lady in the Water.

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Spider Man 3. Terminator Salvation.
Oh OK, so let's not talk about her worst movie ever, Argyle.
Argyle. See, it's not.
Even that that trash, I've neverseen that.
That's one of the worst movies ever created on the history of
of cinema, and she's the star ofit.
It pays to have a famous father.Yeah, I mean, you can get jobs

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when you don't deserve them. She's a good actress though.
She was good in Jurassic World, I liked.
Her she was good in the help. I'll give her the help.
She was good. The Jurassic movies were OK.
I'm after the original 3. It's it's so tough to I.
Have you ever seen the Sunday Night Live episode where Ron
Howard hosted and Eddie Murphy'scharacter is trying to get him
to, he's interviewing him for like a fake show and he's trying

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to get him to say, I think Saddam at Bucko or something.
He won't do it. And he finally snaps on Eddie
Murphy and goes, listen, I'm notlittle Opie.
I'm not little Opie anymore. He goes, I've got a family, I've
got kids and and you see Eddie Murphy go, wow, little Opie
Cunningham doing it. And it's it's hilarious.
And then I think about that now.That's his daughter.
Yeah, that he was talking about then.

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It's kind of like the Dave Chappelle with Wayne Brady where
Wayne Brady has this. Snap service, yeah.
Yeah, it snaps into this like the no, she's made some good
stuff. I just Argyle's tainted
everything else for me. I.
Have to look that up because I don't even remember that movie
The name of it so. It would came out of the theatre
and it was the theatre for abouta month, month or two.
Me and my son think it was goingto be, oh, it's going to be like

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another kind of spy kind of movie.
Yeah, it was. It was a true let down.
People, you're going to learn that Chris has seen a lot of
movies because don't you have the AMC card where you can go
nonstop? Yeah.
I do. He sees a lot of theater movies.
So I'm gonna see 16 movies a month.
You have fun doing. That for like what, $20.00 a
month or something like that I. Think it's 25 now.
It's crazy. It's crazy cheap if you guys a

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lot see a lot of movies so. Number one song March 2nd, 1981.
Eddie Rabbits. I love a rainy night.
That's a good. Song Eddie Rabbit.
That was #1 on the Billboard, right?
So. It was #1 for two weeks.
So it was a country song that charted on the Billboard main
100. That's when you know it's a good
song, when it it jumps to the regular charts and goes to the

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main one. Here's one that you guys
probably have never heard of because I.
Hadn't even OK. March 2nd, 1982, Diner premiered
in theaters. Steve Guttenberg, Daniel *.
I've heard of it. Kevin Bacon.
I don't think I've ever seen it.Yeah, I I don't think I've ever
seen it, but I have heard of it.I didn't even recognize the
picture from like the film poster so but I would give it a

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try. Kevin Bacon 1982 can't be too
bad. Put it on the list.
All right, this next one's a biggie.
Born March 2nd, 1982. Ben Roethlisberger.
Gentle Ben, except his women nickname.
Sorry. Yeah, he's a good quarterback.
Got some sketchy stuff you know about him but.
Does he still have the longest 10 year by quarterback with a

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single team in the NFL? I've never seen his 10 years he
had it. It was 18 seasons with the.
Steelers. He probably does, because nobody
else I. Didn't know if that was still a
true staff. I mean, even Brady left, so
yeah, I guess he still does. He was selected first round in
2004. Probably should have been 16

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seasons though because there at the end he had no arm strength
at all. He was like, bad.
He earned NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year in 2004.
In 2006, he became the youngest Super Bowl winning quarterback
in NFL history. I didn't know that he only won
it once though I think. And that was only in his second
professional season, so that's pretty good.

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He won it again after that though.
He led the Steelers to a second Super Bowl title in Four Seasons
when they won it. In Super Bowl. 43.
With different. Coaches, yeah.
He won it with Tomlin and then won it with the coach before
Cower, I think is his name. Yeah.
He won it with each of those guys, yeah.
OK. I think that means he's pretty
good. Yeah, he's.

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Just keep your daughters away from him, OK?
March 2nd, 1983 The Compact Discplayer was first made available
for sale in the US. That's one of my favorite things
in the movie The Wedding Singer,where he gets her a CD player
and this is like 85 or somethingand she's like, what's this?
I put records on? It goes, no, you put CDs.
But I remember watching that going.
I don't remember CDs till late 80s.

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There were originally only 16 titles from CBS Records.
Now I mean, think of how many CDtitles.
There are. Well, there's not.
They're probably not that many titles anymore.
They don't make cities anymore, I don't think.
Yeah, they do. But it's it's CDs was the best
format out of all of them, even though I I like vinyl because
the artwork and all that stuff and the whole open it.

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But CD was portable, perfect sound, small.
They last forever. I mean, you know, Skip.
To songs easier without scratching albums and stuff or
cassettes where you had to Fast forward and get lucky.
Or get chewed up, you back, you back a set and you ever play it
then it gets chewed up and you have to splice it with tape and
that one song is ruined and. Yep, those first CD players cost

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up to $1000. I believe it.
But there were over 400,000 of them sold in 1983 and 1984
people came up with the money for that.
I don't get it, but Oh well, it's.
Probably a I'm looking at my CD player right now in my house so.
We don't have one. I have one upstairs.
Thank you. That's right.
We have one upstairs. I've got the album, cassette, CD

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player, Bluetooth, all combo my.Card doesn't have one, it's just
touchscreen streaming though. Oh, yeah.
That was the weirdest thing in the car business.
Yeah, in the car business, it was the weirdest thing that you
would see, like cassettes. Then you went into CDs, and the
CDs were forever. And then probably 2020, yeah,
most car companies started phasing them out altogether.

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Yeah, I'm fine with that too. I like my streaming in the car.
Yeah, me too. This next one might be something
that you guys might like. OK premiering March 2nd, 1983,
the movie Sahara as an adventuredrama that starred Brooke
Shields. I'll watch a Brooke Shields
movie. She was a determined heiress who
disguised herself as a man to compete in a grueling car race

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across the Sahara desert. That's so I'll watch it, but I
bet you that's a stinker. She plays Sahara.
I'm just kidding. I think of a Matthew McConaughey
movie. The she's the Gloucesters are in
that movie. I think she played the crazy
Glossner lady in the middle. In the middle.
You're on a show to watch. Watch the middle.
Great show. This next one is awesome for me.

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I don't know about you guys because this was a total chick
flick, although I did finally make Greg watch it.
Released March 2nd in 1984. The movie against all odds.
It was all right. I love that movie.
It starred Jeff Bridges and Rachel Ward and James Wood.
James Wood is the man. I always loved all his movies.

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He's great. Casino.
You ever seen that movie, Chris?Yeah, absolutely.
He's awesome as the the scuzzy guy.
Casino anything. Go ahead any how we talk about
do the song for that. Well, that's pretty much what
made this movie so awesome because of its title track,
Against All Odds, which was written and performed by Phil

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Collins. It was a massive #1 hit.
And that podcast. That earned him a Grammy.
Podcast. That podcast is doing very well,
as was last week's. You people love when we argue
over songs. You'll be getting more of those.
What arguments? Yeah.
Released March 2nd, 1984. Repo Man, I've heard of this
repo. Man is good.
Repo Man is good. I remember that movie, yeah.
Emilio Estevez, yeah. Emilio and CC Sheen.

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'S Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, OK.
No, no, no, Charlie, Sheen's notin.
That one, Harry Dean. 'S yeah, Harry Dean Stanton.
It's a It's like a cult classic movie I watched.
What's the movie that they did together where they were trash?
Man, that's Men At Work. Yeah, Repo Man is my friend.
Randall showed it to me. It's like a you have to.
It's weird, but it's good. It's American science.
Fiction. Comedy.
Yeah, it's good. It's worth a watch.

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Trust. What a weird mixture.
I'll show it to you sometime. It's.
March 2nd, 1985 Sheena Easton became the 1st and as far as I
know this still only recording artist to score top 10 singles
in all five major Billboard single charts Pop, Country,

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Dance, Adult Contemporary and R&B with her hit Sugar Walls.
Prince, can you tell me a song named Sugar Walls was a top ten
hit on country music? It was.
I don't even know that song. Yeah, you do.
If you're if I played it right now, you'd know it.
Maybe so. Prince probably wrote it too.

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I have to look. I could be totally wrong on
that, but he had a lot to do with her.
Released March 2nd, 1985, Madonna's Crazy for You.
It was released for the film Vision Quest.
Vision Quest. Talked a lot about sexual
attraction and desire. That's a good song.
Every song she put out in the 80s was good.
We say that every podcast, too. She's on everyone.

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She puts out this song. Man, that's a good song.
Yeah, she was. She was.
The the top of the the the pyramid for a while.
She was so good that I've got another one about her coming up
later. I'm.
Going to tell you something about her real fast.
It's kind of funny. So my friend Paul is like a big
Madonna fan. He was a big, he was, I guess he
still is, but he collected a lotof her stuff and you know, she

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put out in the 90s that sex book.
And I remember like, I want to see that.
I remember asking Paul one time,You got that sex book, don't
you? No, I didn't get that on what
you have every Madonna thing there is.
And the one thing I want to see,you don't have knowledge about
that. Looked at that one time a lot.
It's not that good. So what you're saying is
Madonna's got nothing on your wife?
Yeah. OK, that's what I thought you

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were saying. Didn't you get that too, Chris?
Where's she getting that vibe? OK, crickets.
Crickets. Crooked it.
Broke up. I didn't understand what you
say. It's kind of like I.
Didn't all right. Born March 2nd, 1985 Robert
Michael Eiler. Do you know that name, Chris?
It does sound familiar, He. Played He played AJ Soprano in

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The Sopranos. Anthony Junior Junior You
watched Sopranos, didn't you? Not really.
Oh my gosh, I didn't have HBO then.
I mean, I didn't have. Well, you got it now, so start
it now. You got some time to do it.
Start it. You'll blow through it fast.
It's great. It's top three of my favorite
shows of all time. I've seen a couple episodes here
and there. If somebody heard something
weird, the dog's down here againthis week, so she just had to

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shake. Born March 2nd, 1986, Ethan
Peck. He played Spock in the second
season of Star Trek Discovery. The young Spock, I guess, right?
Yeah, but do you know who? He's I.
Know that the grandson of actor Gregory Peck.
That's how I know that name. I know.
That that's how you know it. She'll told me previously on
Jan's gnarly news that if it's the grandchild of somebody that

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I should just skip it because they're not that important.
Well, he. Wasn't a real Spock.
He wasn't important at all. He was the the throwback Spock,
so it wasn't a real spark, but it's spark.
So you got those? All right, here's another famous
person born March 2nd, but it wasn't in the 80s.
But he's famous for living in the 80s.
Born March 2nd, 1962, Jon Bon Jovi.

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He left his voice in the 80s, yeah.
He had he had a pretty decent career.
I guess he did. Didn't realize he released 16
studio albums with the band and two solo albums 18 out.
They've had 16 albums out. Yeah.
Plus he does a lot of philanthropies.
He's good with that. I give him credit.
He he has that that restaurant where you just donate what you

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want or eat for free. You know, anybody can come in
and eat and he does a lot of like food bank stuff, so.
He's a good guy. I just can't believe he put out
16 albums. Well, I mean, that probably has
some live albums and compilations in it too.
And you think? I guess I'm going to look it up.
All right, you go, Chris. Got it.
March 2nd, 1988 was the 54th Grammy Awards.

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The Joshua Tree by U2 won Album of the year.
Whitney Houston opened the Grammys that night singing I
want to Dance with Somebody and also won Best Pop Performance by
Female. Jodie Whatley won the Grammy
Award for Best New Artist as a Solo Artist and was nominated
for three Grammy Awards that night.
But the awesome thing that happened that night was Michael

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Jackson performed The Way You Make Me Feel, which was
considered one of the greatest live performances to me in music
history. Because he's wearing his
signature blue button down shirtand his black trousers and he
had all this choreography going on, but also this street style

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dance and theatrical stuff and it's just a perfect performance.
Well, the guy really for the longest time couldn't do
anything wrong. Oh, by the way, Bon Jovi, 16
studio albums, 3 live, 3 live albums and five compilation
albums. So they.
Put a lot of time to squeeze in 16.
That's like almost like 1 every two years since the 80s I mean.

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You know, back in the day, there's a lot of groups back in
like in the 70s that were putting out like an album every
year, every other year. I mean, it was like album after
album after album. So.
But yeah, yeah, that's cool, though.
But that, yeah. And then there's that movie
coming up in April, the Michael Jackson documentary film movie
or whatever at the Not documentary.
Oh my God. Live movie.

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Yeah, but I saw when I was down here editing last week's podcast
Saturday, I had the TV on down here and it was on Reels channel
and it had something about the Michael Jackson like a lawsuit
and with the kids and all that stuff.
Is one of these reenactment shows.
I I screenshot it. I got to post it on the thing.
The guy they had playing MichaelJackson.

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It was, it was so scary. It was, I got it.
It was so bad. It was bad.
The acting was bad. It was, it was just so bad, I
felt. Bad for TV stuff?
Yeah. And on Reels network too.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Yeah. I kind of look forward to.
That yeah, I'll throw that up. It's I got.
Everyone else will agree, I guarantee you.

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I don't want to see if anyone remembers this March 2nd, 1989.
I do not remember it all. Madonna's Pepsi commercial
premiered, making her the very first artist to ever debut a new
song in an ad. Do you remember that?
No, no, because they pulled it. Oh, really?
Like a Prayer was part of a $5,000,000 sponsorship deal, But

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the controversy going around it and they, they had all this
pressure from the religious groups.
Pepsi pulled the ad, but Madonnakept the money.
And Like a Prayer, you know. Went on to that.
Was a good be one of her one of her biggest tits.
She should have kept the money. Yeah, she.

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Did her part. Yeah, it was their decision to
pull it, not ours. I'm.
A Baptist, like Christian, all that stuff, but ever when you
protest stuff like that, you just make it bigger, just let it
go. You bring more attention to it.
Absolutely. When Kevin Smith put his movie
Dogma out, that's all about Catholicism and stuff and which
is a great movie, they were protesting it outside the
theater the opening night and Kevin, Kevin and Jason Muse went

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out and held up signs, Kevin Smith's evil and all that stuff
and with the crowd and nobody really knew when he was in the
crowd. He even got interviewed.
The clips on YouTube TV show interviewed him, asked him his
protest. And he's like, I don't think
Kevin should make these kind of movies.
It's Kevin Smith. It's hilarious.
So, you know, just made that movie bigger too.
There you have jazz gnarly news.Gnarly.

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Anyway, that brings us to the movie Revenge of the Nerds.
I wrote some stuff down and. I thought this was about more
than just. I thought about his whole.
It is. It is.
It's about the movie, but it's also about Robert Carroting.
It's talking about Robert Carroting that name.
Everybody knows that last name because that's like one of the
biggest acting families in and all of Hollywood.

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Like his dad, John Carradine. Pretty sure John won several
Academy Awards. He was in everything but and you
would know him if you saw him. He was, I mean, he's way older.
His dad was. But if you saw a picture and be
like, I saw that guy in every black and white movie there's
ever made, but you know his brother David Carradine.
But David Carradine, his brother, he knows Kung Fu.
He's Bill and Kill Bill. I mean, everybody knows his

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brother David Carradine. But what people don't realize
his brother Keith Carradine is an actor too.
But he's won an Academy Award for music.
He wanted for writing like Best Song for one of the movies he
acted in. And he's he's one of them guys
that you don't know his name. Then you see him.
He's like, I've seen that guy oneverything.
And I know him from Dexter. He had a big arc on the season
of Dexter and he was played WildBill Hicklock in Deadwood.

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And if you've ever seen never seen Deadwood, go watch it.
It's great. He also has a famous niece
actress. Yep, Martha Plimpton, who is
from The Goonies and raising hope this Jan, may be watching.
It's a very good show. It is a good show.
But Robert Carradine is one of the guys that I knew him before
there were nerds from and I've showed you this movie, Jan.
Now the Cowboys John Wayne. Remember, he takes the the young

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boys on the cattle drive. Yes, he's like one of the lead
actors in that as a young kid, you know, probably like 15 or
16, but he's great in it. That's one that's my favorite
John Wayne movie. Chris, you had to seen that,
right? The Cowboys, Yeah.
No, I didn't. No, no, watch that tonight.
What's wrong with you? I'm not watching it tonight,
but. It's, it's the best.
I, it's for me, maybe because itwas on TV when I was a kid and I

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watched it, but all his, uh, hiscattle guys quit on him and he
has to take his cattle cattle drive and he just gets all the
boys in town to work for him. And it's, it's really good.
And Bruce Dern placed a bad guy in it who he plays the bad guy
in everything. Yeah, he's good at it.
Yeah, and he he kills John Waynein this movie and and he went

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spoilers, but he said he never. Lived.
He said he never lived it down for like the next 30 years.
People run up on the street, youkilled John Wayne and throw
stuff out of his stuff. He's still to this day some
people come up to the street because you killed John Wayne.
So but carradines and so much stuff.
But then you know, the range of nerds, like one of it's like not
Rushmore for me in comedies, buthe wasn't that.

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He wasn't a nerd. You know, he's he was a good
actor and but he kind of got topcast after that movie for a long
time to where he had to do. They did four of those movies
you know he was in. I know.
That's amazing, yeah. Well, the first 2 nerds, 2 nerds
in paradise. Actually, I like it and but it
didn't do that great. So the third one was a maybe for
TV movie and him and Betty Childs are married in that one

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and stuff. And it's it's all right.
But you know, he was having to take anything for a job then I
guess he's should have been made.
But they did a show him and Curtis Armstrong did a show like
10 years ago on like TNT, whereas like it's a nerd game
show. They put all these nerds and
geeks in the house, and they had.
To. I remember that.
It was good. They got three seasons out of it
and I liked it. Curtis Armstrong is another one.

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You know, we talked about Revenge of the Nerds.
I watch him and anything. He's like an 80s staple.
But Jen, what you know him by, of course.
Lizzie McGuire Yeah. So when you were busy watching
Nerds over and over and over in the early 2000s, I was watching
Lizzie McGuire with my two daughters, and he was the dad in
that. How long did that run?
Was that like a? It was 2001 to 2004.

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They also did a movie. Was that like a Nickelodeon, one
of those kind of shows? Because I don't remember.
Disney Channel On the Disney Channel, it stars Hilary Duff.
She's the main character. See, there's a whole.
World. In that show, there's a whole
world of in until I started dating you and the girls started
showing me stuff. There's a whole world of like
Disney and Nickelodeon stuff that I never knew existed
because I didn't have kids. So I never watched those

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channels. There were just channels I
flipped by. And it's like, you know, there's
a whole, all these actors and actors you've seen, they're
like, Oh yeah, he's a Disney. I'm like, what?
You know. Well, just so you know, you can
take and go see Hilary Duff livein concert in Charlotte this
summer. She'll be performing live.
I should take Johnson and the girls and.
Go, I go see. I go see that Henry does cute.

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He played her dad in this seriesand he threw it.
He's really just trying to understand a teenage girl, which
nobody can do. See, I say I never knew that
show, so I never knew that he had this whole run of stuff like
that with Disney. This show was nominated for two
Emmy Awards in 2003 and 2004 forOutstanding Children's Program.

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The pilot received a nomination from the Writers Guild of
America for Best Children's Script.
It also received various awards and nominations at the
Nickelodeon Kids Choice Awards from 2002 to 2005.
They were going to actually renew the series and pick it up
again in 2019, but the Terry Minsky who created it backed

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out. So they didn't do it.
Everybody else was lined up to do it.
Carradine, Hilary Duff, everybody, all the original
people were going to come back, but the creator backed out, so
they didn't do it. Has has that ever happened where
it's been good? Will you take like 15?
Revival? Yeah, revival show and they come
back and I'm trying to. Think Fuller House.
Yeah, but. I mean scrubs reboot that just

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came on last week never watched.Scrubs so it can.
Happen put it on your list. But yeah, it's hard to do that
with especially with TV show, I mean movies too.
We take such amount of time off and or do a revival or try to
reboot it or whatever. It's tough.
That's pretty cool, yeah. He just, I mean, he didn't play
a nerd father. He was just a straight laced

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dad, you know, struggling with ateenage daughter and you know
how to get her through all the high school drama and all that
good stuff. Well, the nerd thing, you know,
going to the nerds movie, he didn't want to do that movie,
you know, because at first because he didn't want to get
top cast in that. And he's one of the Carradine
family members. I mean, you don't want to be the
guy in the goofball nerd movie, but he took it for a paycheck

(25:00):
and he thought it, you know, he was up until last year, I saw
where they were having like nerdreunions at these comic cons
where him and Booger and Worms are and all those guys would be
signing autographs and you couldpay like 300 bucks and get your
picture. Took all of them, including Ogre
and all like that in a group shot.
I would have killed to have thatshot.
That would be awesome. Yeah.
That's what I loved in that movie, was reading boogers,
different T-shirts. Yeah, yeah, I've got 1.

(25:23):
I had Matt make me years ago that says it was a copy of.
He even got the right font, pulled the picture.
Offline. High on stress?
Yeah. Greasy Tony's.
I almost scored one of those onetime.
Yeah. He had great T-shirts in that
movie. Yeah, many.
Classic 1 you had on. Yeah.
I'm going to say it. Give me head till I'm dead.

(25:44):
So yeah, Chris, you have any Whim School T-shirts like that?
I went to see what was the I went to go see Rock of Ages on
Broadway and when the guy was ontheir stage he was like the MC
of the thing and he would come out and he had a different
T-shirt on and do his stuff and he had AT shirt that says I love
camel toe. I bought one of those on

(26:07):
Broadway. Yeah, so let's talk about
Revenge of Nerds a little bit. Being his biggest.
I mean, I'm sure he never thought when he filmed this
movie, this will be what I'm known for.
But you know, kidding, top casting that.
I'm sure he didn't like it for awhile, but you could be known
for worse movies than this. Oh yeah.
Absolutely. A cult classic where people just

(26:29):
love the movie and love you forever, you know?
Yeah. And then you said a minute ago
about those reunions they were doing like comic cons and all
that kind of stuff. I don't.
I bet you Anthony Edwards wasn'tat any.
Of them, No, he wasn't he. Well, when you die getting
ejected from a jet, you know it's tough to to show up for

(26:51):
these. Things he was only in Reasoners
2 on the phone. Gilbert doesn't get to go when
they go to Miami because he broke his foot.
They had a he he would said he would do like a scene or two.
So he sit back at their house with a cast on and they showed
him calling me when talking to him and that was it.
Yeah, he made a great he he really did great for himself

(27:11):
career wise. Yeah.
Gilbert. But but he has nothing to I did
see that they stayed when I readsome stuff about him after
Carradine died and they he stayed good friends with him
too. I mean Edward just said he would
help out with a family and stuff.
I mean all those guys stay good friends.
So that's some of a good movie when the whole cast, it's still
friendly 40 years later, you know?

(27:31):
Yeah, You know, we can run this movie over.
Everybody knows this movie. If you don't know it, you're
going to have to go buy the DVD or Blu-ray off of Amazon or eBay
because you cannot stream it anywhere except on YouTube.
Yeah, on YouTube in 35. Everything's cut.
I mean it's. It's terrible. 2 main scenes
they cut out of the the movie onthe streaming on the YouTube.

(27:54):
Yeah, they cut out the whole panty raid stuff, which I
thought it was because of the nudity, but now I think the guy
just might have forgot to uploadit because there's nudity in it
on YouTube later on where there's some of the pies and
stuff. But and then the very last part,
they cut the part where Gilbert gives his speech the speech so.

(28:15):
Yeah, but yeah, it was difficultbecause you had to watch it.
We had to stream it and watch itthrough those and sit through
the commercials or shit skip andthen when you find out at the
end all there's no ending to it.You had to go door and search it
for YouTube. What's funny is I have it on
VHS, DVD and Blu-ray, but Jen and I.
Were just. We were.

(28:36):
Just too lazy to walk down here and turn the heat on in the
basement. I don't have a Blu-ray player,
DVD player hooked up upstairs. It's all down here on the
underground basement. Just yeah, if this was the
summer, we would have done it. But it's like it come in here
and turn the heat on the heat upthe basement.
It's like, hey. You could have taken a blanket
down there and totaled up, got all cozy and missed out on help

(28:56):
with anything. But you know that that movie, I
try to think like Porky's catches so much stuff and Riley.
So Porky's has tons of nudity and all that stuff.
It was just for shock. But this movie had like a heart
to it, the message and stuff. It wasn't just a gonzo, you
know, show some. New I have a message.

(29:17):
Yeah, I have the heart and soul of the movie right here.
Yeah, in one quote. OK, no one's gonna really be
free until nerd persecution ends.
Well, why don't we just play that clip right now?
You go for it. No one's.
Really gonna be free until nerd persecution ends.
So Yep, Dan got it right there it was.
Work for work. Yep, tearing up.

(29:38):
Yeah. So he's true.
It's true too. Let's get a hashtag.
We're trending. Stop nerd persecution.
So we got some trivia I do hear about that movie, and this is
the one that may really crack meup.
All the actors were protective of Andrew Kazis, the guy who
played Wormser 'cause he was a little kid.
And they and the director made sure that he didn't witness or

(30:01):
play a role in a lot of the scenes that got at the R rating,
the nudity and all that stuff, you know?
Right. So when he was like 16, somebody
let him see it finally and he was like, Oh my God.
I missed all the fun stuff though.
How old was he when they filmed?It he was like 14 then I got
you. So yeah, you know, before you
get into the trivia and stuff, one thing that I was watching

(30:24):
the movie and I was like, these are all nerds who have never,
you know, painted a wall. They never drilled, screwed,
never done, but they remodeled the entire house.
And I'm like, I'm like, oh, well, that all it takes is just
a couple nerds getting together and sweeping and stuff like
that. And the house looks brand new.
I was just talking about anything about that when you're

(30:46):
a little bit like, oh, nerd power.
They listen, Chris. They they, they're Tim Taylor.
Here's what you missed. You could put a room full of
monkeys in that house if you play a catchy 80s song as part
of a montage. You'll get it done.
You get stuff done. You need the montage dude.
The montage gets it done. And if you have the power of the

(31:06):
the Super joints. Wonder Joints.
Bigger than cigars. Chris, did you also notice in
this movie there's no actual college work or anything like
that? No studying.
Well, they were in computer. Computer lab because I remember
when he sat down with Judy and goes if you just type a few

(31:29):
things in there and type in like3 things and it creates an
entire. Thing that cracks me up as
somebody who has a degree in computer programming, to watch
him just like what, a few clicks?
I'll do this whole graphical design thing and creating this
like that is the most unrealistic.
Thing you know how hard that would have?
Been the nerd scoring the cheerleader, you know, even if
he didn't like assault her basically is more believable

(31:50):
than sitting down and creating that stuff.
But if you swap some old dummy. Terminals.
Just because he's better at computers than you are.
Greg, don't get upset. Yeah.
I mean, it was amazing. It's like in war games.
Yeah. War Games is kind of believable,
though. There was a lot of.
Taking that the way it that that's.
Way more believable which? But you sit there and you watch
that stuff and then it's like, we can't, you got to talk about

(32:14):
the, we're going to talk about the Greek games, right?
You're going to talk about that,right?
Oh yeah, yeah. OK.
All right. OK.
So also James Cromwell said he came up with that laugh and you
know that they all copied the, you know, the geek laugh.
And he said he realized going home that night after shooting
that that was his ex wife's laugh.
That's what he did it. He didn't realize that was how
she laughed. I wonder if she knows that now I

(32:36):
don't. Know I'm sure but but I want.
To hear from her. Carradine, that was.
Stole that from him, you know, and copied him with the laugh, I
guess. Copied.
Him. Oh yeah, yeah.
They look so much alike in that movie.
Oh yeah. That's such a good, good
casting. Yeah, Did you know that?
You know that Lambda Lambda Lambda was a made-up fraternity,
you know. Yeah, I looked that up while I

(32:58):
was watching the movie, but it'sa real yeah.
Founded at the University of Connecticut in 2006.
I think I read there's like 13 chapters now of it, which I had
AI actually got another one up in the closet.
I hadn't put it on yet, but I had a Lambda Lambda Lambda
shirt. I wore it Let Them up band gigs
and Jen and I started dating that I wore it around a lot and
when it finally got wore up, shewas so glad that I retired that

(33:20):
shirt so. I got you one on the way from
Amazon. I don't mind if it gets a new
one, it's just that that one hadbeen.
I have a backup one in the closet, I just didn't.
Put it on SO. Yeah, he was waiting till we
were married a few years when werotted out.
Yeah, So it's funny too. One more thing.
I'll tell you, Larry B Scott that played Lamar, Lamar
Luttrell. Yeah, Lamar, Lamar Luttrell.

(33:40):
He wasn't gay, but he showed up at his his the, the, what do you
call it? The audition covered in glitter
made everybody laugh. I saw that.
But he said he had to overly butchered up for years after
that movie because everybody just assumed he was gay because
he played it so. He did play.
It so prissy, yeah, but he's in a It's funny because he's in a
movie called Fear of a Black Hat, which is sort of like

(34:03):
Spinal Tap for rap. And he's one of the rap members
in it, the gangster rap members.And he's hilarious in it because
he is so over the top thug gangster.
It's hilarious to watch him and that now, so look that up
sometime. Look up favorite Black Hat and
I'd post a clip from that movie and show you how he's he's
totally opposite than he was in this movie.
What would you want to talk about, Chris?
Like you can go through this movie, you can go through it

(34:25):
from beginning to end and can do2 hour podcasts on this movie
being so that. But the Greek games, you know,
that whole thing that I was going to talk about, like you
see these nerds and it's like really, you're competing with
the jocks. You're going through all this
stuff like when they're doing the but.
He had appeal, yeah. So that he.
Could Well, when that came on, Itold Jan I said this might be

(34:47):
the most unbelievable part of the whole movie that any college
would allow you to have like drinking games and stuff like
that. You.
Know. Yeah, yeah.
The belching contest, all this stuff was like, even back then
the school would not have these,these.
That was the one thing that Deanhad a problem with too.
Remember, he goes, this is the one event that I don't like.
It's the Belgian. You don't mind them drinking
unconscious, drinking a beer, drinking a case of beer on that.

(35:10):
I mean, it was unbelievable. But I mean just the the
creativity of whoever wrote thatthe think about all those
different type of games. How they could win some of these
things, too. And I like, I like, yeah, the
tug of war. They know they're not going to
win, so they just. Throw it.
I thought that was funny. That's always.
A fun. By the way, the the tricycle
scene, I turned this off, but Brian Tachi who played him,

(35:33):
Takashi, when they shot the tricycle race, they gave him a
choice of drinking real beer or Kansas soda that looked like
beer and he took the real beer. Real, real beer.
I have probably seen that. So they did so many retakes and
reshoots on that to get the right angles.
He was literally drunk at the end of it and they said if you
look at him peddling and he's all over the place, some of it
it's because he really is drunk.So that's pretty fun.

(35:54):
Drunk after like 60 years. Oh yeah I haven't drank in so
long. It would be 6 years if not many.
Do you know, this was filmed at the University of Arizona
campus? That movie was.
Oh, really? Yeah.
And at first, they were going tothrow them off because somebody
got a copy of the one that headsheads up at the college, got a
copy of the thing. And it's like, no way.
We're filmed this year. But I don't think they ever
acknowledged, you know, they never acknowledged.

(36:14):
When he talks. Yeah, but Robert Carradine
speaking to him, he went there two weeks before the shooting
and as his character Lewis Skolnick, and he brought to his
nerd clothes and walked around campus and he said he couldn't
leave his hotel room for three days because he was so
embarrassed. So yeah.
And him and Anthony Edwards to test their nerd makeup and
wardrobes, they attended collegerush week with real fraternities

(36:38):
and none of them accepted them. They were like going up and said
one of the fraternity leader at the 1st house to look, took one
look at both of them and said noway, get out.
So they knew then that we're doing good on this.
You know if the. Well, you saw how they treated
them in the movie when they weretrying to pledge for Alpha Beta
and they cut that. Some of that scene out, I

(36:58):
imagine, I don't remember, but they cut some of that out.
But like the rush week back then, like you couldn't do half
the stuff you were doing a rush week back then.
Now I think with the, with the way the culture is now, it's
just, you know, but it was, I mean, I just, I don't, I don't
know how realistic or how close to reality it was.
But when you're a nerd and you see that, you probably think,

(37:21):
Yep, that's exactly how it is. So I mean, I don't, I don't
know. I didn't pledge at a a major
university, so I don't really know.
If I go into a four year, I don't think I would have
pledged. I'm not a frat.
Guy, I would have never, I wouldhave never pledged, but.
But we got to talk about the thebounce house scene, though.
You could. They have all the writers, the
director, all the actors said that, that they cringe at that

(37:43):
scene now. That's my paw.
Yeah, but, you know, that's, I mean, it's, it's at the least
it's sexual assault at the worst, it's a full on rate.
But, you know, but back then youcould put this stuff in movies.
Nobody cared. Every John Hughes movie has a an
inappropriate scene in it. You know, we were going to talk
about 16 Candles. There's inappropriate stuff in
that. You would know John Hughes

(38:04):
probably would have never filmed.
Now it just shows you how thingschange over 40 years, you know?
Well, I mean a lot of changes in40 years because Poindexter's
convicted pedophile not convicted.
Yeah. Oh well, OK, sorry.
You can edit that out. He's.
He's he's he's currently he's currently awaiting trial, so.

(38:24):
Yeah, although he already got convicted.
It was no stuff. Coming out no, no, no, but you.
Know. But that, that scene, though, I
don't. One thing I did hit me the other
night that I've never really paid attention to, is he, he
grabs a Stan's mask in his Cape.But that's supposed to be Darth
Vader. But it's not.
You can tell they've they've used them, you know, I guess

(38:46):
anyone of your licensing problems with the Lucas.
So it's like a generic black mask is supposed to be like a
space mask. But can't you know?
I know that. Well, he already had on the
Cape. They both were in black Cape.
That's right. Yeah.
And then. But you could have if size wise
and size wise too I mean. Yeah, well, yeah.
I mean, there's, I don't know. But what he tells her is, you

(39:09):
know, most of your jocks just care about sports and all this
nerds cares about sex. That's true.
That is true. Greg told me that five years
ago. Yeah, because I'm in love with
the nerd. Yeah, well, I know you're
loving. You know what that line was?
This is a true story, too. You know what that line
originally was? All jocks think about his
sports. Ever since we're 10, all us
nerds think about his sex. And they told him take the age

(39:30):
10 thing out because it sounds creepy.
So he did. Yeah.
So yeah, it's good call on that.You know, I was thinking about
it too. The name of the colleges?
Adams. Adams.
And they're the Adams ATOMS. Yeah, that's the.
But yeah, I mean. I didn't look this up in Triv or
anything, but actually listen. I didn't know that Carradine had
a podcast. Oh really?

(39:51):
There's only like 9 episodes. They started a couple months
ago, so I listened. To working on.
One last night, so one episode was podcast, I think it's the
second or third one. It's him they're envying Robert
Hayes, who's the star of a airplane and he pointed out
about. An airplane.
He played his character straight.
He's you know, that's the whole why that movie worked is they
all played it like straight. The laughs come, but they're not

(40:12):
being goofy and Carradine said that's how he played Lewis was
the first day of filming. He played it like, you know,
Lewis doesn't know he's a nerd. He thinks he's just a cool, cool
breeze guy. Where are.
They I think they're talking about us.
And the director asked him aboutthat.
He goes, yeah, I'm playing it straight because we'll keep

(40:32):
doing it because it works. And that's like one of the the
best scenes in the movie. So yeah, I mean, you know, when
they're yelling nerds and he goes, no way, where are they?
And he's like, I think he's talking about us.
No way. You're talking to me.
Yeah, I mean that that kills me because Lewis has no idea he's a
nerd. That's that's such the great
thing about his character. Yeah, the high waisted pants
didn't give it away, I mean. You never ever, I don't think he

(40:56):
ever acknowledged it to the veryend that he's a.
Nerd even. He's so over the top when they
go to pick up Gilbert, him, his dad and he comes up to give his
mom high flow and gives her a kiss.
Like just he's such a spaz, but he's like, he's just a normal
person. That just kills me.
He plays that character so well.Well, he grew up in that and
imagine if his dad is like that.I'm sure his mom was like that

(41:17):
too. So he never knew any different
and he surrounded himself with those folks.
So I mean to him it was normalcy, not nerdery.
But I've always argued too, and Jan actually set me straight on
this. Uh oh.
Well, she worded it the correct way and I'll let her word it
now. I said.
The thing that's always bugged me about this movie, though, is
Booger's not a nerd. Booger's a rocker.

(41:38):
He's got his leather jacket. He's not a nerd.
But Jan pointed out. He's an outcast, yeah.
And so all the outcasts and the nerds got grouped together,
right? Which is the way it is in just
about every school. Yeah, he's not really a nerd,
but he is an outcast. You know, because Booker's kind
of cool in this movie. You know, he's got the great one
liners. He just, he just, there was no
group. He's.
Stealing the money. The money from Takashi teaching

(42:01):
you how to play. What the F is a frush?
You know a frush man. He'll give you 3 fresh cards
right here. You know I got 3 aces.
Nadia, you don't want that. Let me take those cards.
I think if I think if you go around picking your nose and
your nickname's burger, you're always going to be an outcast.
Well, it's funny. Although Boogers arguably Curtis
Armstrong's most famous character, he initially did not

(42:21):
want the role. According to his comments on
DVD, he originally read for the role of Gilbert, but was later
asked to read for Booger. He recalls telling fellow actor
Bronson Peacho that if he was offered the role of Booger, they
could just F and forget it. I'm not picking my nose on
camera for anyone. Well, he.
Did. But he did, and he did it well,
Yeah. Stuck with him.
Oh, perfect strangers. Bronson Pincho.
Yep, you know Olga, he's so great in this movie too.

(42:45):
Which which one does he become anerd in Three.
That's nerd. No, that's two nerds in
paradise. They throw him out.
They throw him out of the the. It's rescue boat nerds.
Yeah. The betas.
Yeah. Was.
Ted McGinley in two as well. I can't remember.
He might be. Jan was trying to remember
though, not when has he been in?I was like, he's been in
everything, but he was. Married with children.

(43:06):
Yes, Darcy Jefferson, Darcy and married children.
He was in happy days last coupleseasons.
He's yeah. It was driving me crazy.
Where there was a running joke, there was a running joke for
years that you know, it shows atthe end of its life cycle when
when Tim McGinley joins it. He did an episode of Love Bird
before. He's been around for It was a
cut scene that I read and apparently it's on the Blu-ray.
I got to look at it where originally in the script he was

(43:29):
supposed to be a nerd too. After they trashed their house.
I think they have a scene where he goes back to his room and
pulls out a book and like some thick glasses and puts him on
his reading like a book and studying and you realize then
that he's like a closet nerd. And then they yell for him to
come out to party and you seem like sigh and take his glasses
off and go out to the party. But they left it out because
they didn't think it fit the themood of the movie.

(43:49):
But he was in Revenge of the Nerds 4 See I'm looking through
his stuff, I think I've. Ever seen four I've seen?
I haven't either. I've seen 3.
Several times, 4 apparently. But he was.
He's had a long career. I mean, he's had welfare
himself. Oh yeah, he's another one I
would pay to get his autograph and picture with.
He's been in everything. So yeah.
Anything else in this movie anybody wants to talk about?

(44:10):
I mean, it's, we didn't really breakdown a lot of stuff about
the movie just because it's, youknow.
One thing at the end instant when the Lambda Lambda Lambda
the the founders came to it and they were like after he'd been
thrown in the water and he was getting up and then John Goodman
was saying he was going to threaten to to kill him.
And like John Goodman, played a great Jackass.

(44:32):
Goodman was great in this movie,yeah.
But then those guys always said,you put that boy down right now
and it was just funny to. It was that whole just like,
here comes this wall of men thatyou're like nobody wants to mess
with. And then you like, let Gilbert
give his speech about being a nerd.
Well, that's like, that's what Isay, like this movie has heart

(44:52):
and stuff because it's like, yeah, they didn't, you know,
they didn't want them in that fraternity.
But then they they feel for him when they saw what you know,
they did with the pigs. Then they find out how they got
even with him. Was like all right man y'all all
right. Glad you stuck up for yourself.
Yeah, that those guys were great.
The Lambda, Lambda, Lambda guys,the main characters, those guys
were DL or Q. What was his name?

(45:12):
I. Forget, but you in you in
Jefferson, Yeah. When he's a great character.
When Lewis goes and changes the record out, I'll change the
music. Swing low, sweet cherry, that
that is. The.
That kills me. I'll post some of these clips on

(45:32):
the underground page when we show this this.
Episode should be on every stream of service.
It should be, man. I get that we're in the world we
are in today, but what I've readto understand that this movie
was made in a different time of of the world what I've.
Read though is it's not a content thing, it's somebody
either bought it and is holding it out or it's lost in some

(45:54):
movie thing right now because I've read that it has nothing to
do with the content. There's 1000 movies out there
worse than this with content it's not being.
Censored way worse. Yeah, Pork is nothing.
There's a lot of these 80s movies that were big that are
just sitting in limbo right now out there.
Well, another one that's in limbo where you can't, you can't
find anywhere even on like 2B and stuff like that is Bachelor

(46:17):
Party. Cannonball Run too.
It's not. Yeah, Cannonball Run and
there's. Nothing wrong with Cannonball
Run. There's no nudity or anything in
that. It's just there's there's.
Like somebody said, let's buy upthe rights to like all these
great, awesome 80s movies and just hold them in a vault.
But at least put it up we can rent it for like 4 bucks off
Amazon. Yeah, this month would be a
movie like like I might would even pay like 12 or 13 to buy

(46:40):
this one. You know, yeah.
But I just think that we may be getting some of these back.
It seems like there's a shift more going back toward, you
know, physical media. Yeah, but you can't change it.
It was done in the 80s. Just let it breathe.
Let it, Let it do it. If you don't want to watch it,
don't watch it. He's speaking about buying,

(47:01):
paying and owning the digital rights I have.
I paid 8 bucks to own the Cowboys, the John movie, the
John, the John Wayne movie, the Carradine.
Yeah to my Amazon thing but I know.
But there again I should just pay the 8 bucks for the DVD
because who knows one day Amazonmight just take everything off.
You don't. They legally can so.
Well, you've already got the DVD.

(47:22):
Oh, you mean for nerds? You do, but you don't have it
for Cowboys. No, yeah, yeah, not the the
physical media, no, but I have the original movie rental VHS
copy from the actual. This isn't like a 90s VHSI have
the 80s heavy cassette VHS. Oh, nice, nice.
Probably on display here the pixel on the ground.

(47:42):
Nice. Among other things.
Yeah, we are working on a project right now that will
leash upon the world here eventually.
Chris has seen it, but. I've seen it.
We only have about 20% of it done, so it'll take a while, but
he was going to freak when we get it done so.
Yeah, it's pretty cool idea. Yeah, I'm glad I thought of it.
Yeah. So anyway, we wrapped this one

(48:04):
up. This movie review slash, you
know, in memoriam. Great.
Yeah. One thing, you did this, what
did you say? Like pivot?
You did this pivot and you already made me sit through and
watch 16 Candles and then you pivoted to this.
So I'm not the happiest with youright now, but that's why.
Well, this means we're we're ready for the next one in four

(48:27):
weeks, the 16 candles. So yeah.
You've got a jump start, Chris. It's like the teacher gave you
your homework and told you it was due in a week, but really
it's not due for a month. Yeah, you've already done it.
You've already done it, so you're ahead on your homework.
By the way. I won't worry.
Watch it before we do it by the way.
I just don't remember. Also, one thing I need to throw

(48:49):
in this movie is it's like Nostradamus.
Curtis Armstrong in a weird twist predicted 2 future
presidents in this movie. We've got Bush, we've got Bush.
So there you go. There you go.
Oh damn, laugh. Don't let that.
Don't be that way. That was.

(49:09):
Good, yeah. That was a good one.
Yeah. I was like when you told me that
the first time. I was like, what?
And then then you played it. I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah.
So anyway, they wouldn't get reelected today.
No, we all give this movie thumbs up, right?
Two thumbs up. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah. It's again, it has some
problems, but I mean, any movie that's done 40 years ago is

(49:30):
going to have some some dating issues, but overall it holds up.
It's all I've used the mopery line several times on people
over the years and we get a laugh out of them and risk that
man from mopery. What's mopery?
Explosion yourself to a blind person.
Come on, that's good. Mopery.
Yeah, Mopery. So yeah, this.
I'm glad we got to watch this movie.
It was going to be one of the 1st movies we did and
unfortunately we had did it to honor Robert Carradine but.

(49:54):
Sad we had to put it that quick.So anyway, that'll do it for
this week. Jane, you got something.
I just want to say thank. Several days ago when we talked
about doing this episode on Carradine, I told Greg I would
only do it under the condition that we not talk about how he
died. But I couldn't let this chance

(50:14):
get away to say, as someone that's been very deeply and
personally affected by suicide, if you ever feel like you need
to leave this world, take a stepback, take a walk, put yourself
in a different location. Give yourself a chance to let
the noise in your mind clear. Switch to something else.

(50:35):
Your life's important and no matter how bad you think your
situation is, there's always a better solution, even though
sometimes it may may not feel like it.
Your life means more than you'llever know to people around you.
Call a friend, call a relative, call a work Co worker, call 988.

(50:57):
But please stop. Take a breath, go to another
room, go outside, do whatever you need to do to clear your
mind because someone in this world needs for you to be in
their world. Yeah, I'm glad you said that
because I won't go bring it up because you said, you know, we
not going to bring it up. But his brother did something

(51:18):
the day when they announced his death, his brother Keith said he
was suicide and he goes, people already asked me why are we
telling saying this? And he goes because there's no
shame in this. He said my brother had, you
know, depression issues, all this stuff.
And he goes, I'm not ashamed of what he did.
He had a, it's a mental issue, just like a health issue.
And he goes, I don't want the stigma on this to people think

(51:40):
like, oh, we're trying to hide. He goes, this is what he's dealt
with. So I thought that was really
classy of his family to say that, to do that in the family,
to put that out there. Thanks for saying that because.
Yeah, I was thinking about that the other day, about we should
put something in like that. I'm glad you did.
So I'll do it for this week's episode.
Chris, say goodbye. Well, I just wanted to say that
I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonightto stand up for the rights of

(52:01):
other nerds. Right on.
Goodnight. Jim, I'm in love with the Nerd
Shine on the Pixel people by Stand.
Up the pixel, people.
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