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May 6, 2025 35 mins

In this deeply reflective episode of Time, Fuel, and Money, Deborah, Karim, and Vassili unpack the invisible forces that shape how we live, lead, and make meaning—energy, alignment, and attention. Sparked by a quote that resonated with Deb during a morning run, the conversation moves from gratitude to groundedness, from burnout to purpose.

They explore how true well-being goes beyond diet and exercise—it's about the people we surround ourselves with, the rituals we rely on, and the distractions we release. Vassili introduces the powerful distinction between content and context, while Karim shares how small rituals like Eminem-fueled drives and meditative coffee moments help him re-center.

Together, they challenge the belief that money is power, proposing instead that energy—not effort—is the real currency. They ask what it means to lead from a place of presence in today’s “zombie-mode” world—and whether all disease might stem from disruptions in how we produce and manage energy.

We explore:

  • Why money may not be power, but a catalyst for who we already are
  • How presence, not productivity, can be our greatest asset
  • What it means to lead from alignment in an overstimulated world
  • And why attention may be the most precious form of fuel

Whether you’re a founder, investor, or simply seeking clarity, this episode offers a new lens on how to protect what fuels you—and live more intentionally.

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