In this conversation on Time, Fuel, and Money, Deborah, Karim, and Vassili unpack a deceptively simple tension founders face every day: when does money serve the mission, and when does it start steering it?
What begins as a riff on “money loves speed” turns into a deeper inquiry: Is money a goal or an energy exchange? How do timing and market windows matter without collapsing into hustle-for-hustle’s sake? Vassili argues that money-as-end breeds fear and narrows cognition; Deborah separates decisive action from dollar-chasing; and Karim reframes wealth as free time (and impact), changing the calculus of what to pursue and what to skip.
Together they explore practical guardrails: how to spot the moment when money starts driving your decisions, how to reset around values and curiosity, and how to think bigger without pigeonholing your company or yourself.
🧠 Topics we explore
- Money as fuel vs. money as the goal
- Timing without hustle: acting fast vs. acting aligned
- Fear vs. curiosity and the neuroscience of focus
- Time wealth vs. financial wealth (the tradeoff founders miss)
- Procrastination = energy problem, not a moral failing
- Investor alignment: taking capital without importing the wrong “energy”
- Think bigger without boxing yourself in
If you’ve ever felt pulled between chasing capital and building with conviction, this episode offers a reset, so your Time, Fuel, and Money point toward what actually matters.
🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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