E7: Unveiling the Psychic Within All Of Us - A Conversation with Psychic Medium Heidi Jaffe - UnveilYou: Confidence, Intuition and Spiritual Growth for Women

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Hey, I'm Audrey Yankton, empowerment coach and
researcher, and this is unveiledyou, the podcast where
spirituality meets practicality to help you step fully into your
power. Each week we'll talk about what
it really means to align with your higher self, trust your
inner knowing, and walk through life with grounded, soul LED
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Welcome back, beautiful souls. Today on the Unveil You Podcast,
we have a very special guest today.
Her name is Heidi Jaffe, and I am so excited for this episode.
I'm actually buzzing. So Heidi, I'm going to turn it
over to you to go ahead and introduce yourself to our
audience and a little bit about some of the work you do as well.
Sure. First of all, thank you for
having me on the show. I'm so excited.
We have just such a great connection.

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And I'm just, I love the whole, I love all of it.
So my name is Heidi Jaffe. I am a certified psychic medium
and a certified Master teacher of at Psychic Mediumship.
I'm also a dual certified breathwork coach and the owner
and founder of NYSSA Retreats. My retreat company is a company
that I built to help educate people on how to open up their

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psychic abilities in a mediumship abilities in a really
safe, cool environment and amazing places all over the
world. So, you know, and we'll be
talking about that. But you know, that's my little
that's where I am and what I do.Super unique.
Honestly before I had been connected with you I never heard
of anybody doing such a thing before.
Like putting on these really, I don't know, I'm going to call

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them glamorous, glamorous retreats of kind of self
discovery. So we'll definitely dive into
that a little bit more. But the first thing I think I
want to address is I think the first time I met you, you said
something like you're not the typical psychic, like you're not
the typical person in this woo woo space.
As we both said, we kind of hatethat word Woo woo.
Yeah, I know. I hate that word and it comes up

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so often and I find myself saying it.
I'm like, Oh my God, why did I just say?
That I hate that. I hate that it's actually the
perfect descriptor. I know, so I'm not typical in
the, the, the sense, you know, you know, I tell people I'm, I'm
a spiritual person, but I'm not,I'm not really hippie dippie.
Like I'm not way into yoga. I'm not meditating 3 times a

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day. You know, I'm not like saying,
oh, I've got spirits in the house everywhere and I feel
spirits around you. Like, you know, it's like
there's so much of that BS in the world and people wandering
around with like this kind of that woo woo kind of spiritual
thing about them. And you know, I'm just like a
normal, you know, woman. Like I'm, you know, I'm a mom

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and like I like my, you know, mynice shoes and I and I and I
travel a lot and I'm very down to earth and I just hang out
with my friends and I work out and, you know, do all these like
just normal like things. People think because I have this
job that I live, I don't know, some weird like cosmic life and
they think that like I'm doing stuff at midnight.

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People e-mail and be like, can you do reading at midnight?
I'm like, no, I'm sleeping. I get up at 6:00 to take my kid
to school. Are you serious?
You know, and they'll, you know,they'll be like, Hey, can we do
a seance with you? I was like, well, I would love
to do a seance. That would be awesome.
But no, I don't do seances, you know, So I, you know, I'm just
not typical in the sense that like when people seem to them,

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they're not going to look at me and go, oh, she's like into, you
know, spiritual stuff. Like, I'm not wearing like flowy
dresses and all of you know that, you know, walking around.
Barefoot, seeing dead people everywhere.
Yeah, no, I just like I just look like a normal person and
normal mom and like I know I go do normal things.
I don't know, Definitely I. Think you kind of touched on

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something which is there is thisstigma that if you have psychic
abilities or you're aware of them, we'll say you're aware of
your psychic abilities and you lean into them that they're that
just kind of marks you as something kind of offbeat or
whatever. But that is simply not my
experience meeting more and morepsychics and mediums as I kind
of walk down this path in my newcareer here with unveil you.

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But yeah, and I think you're a really great example of that.
Like a very down to earth. Like if I would have just met
you in the grocery store, I would have had no idea that you
are so gifted at connecting to the beyond so.
Yeah. And I think a lot of people
assume as well, which I run intoall the time, is that if you do
this work that you're just always on, you know, and people

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get freaked out by me when they do find out because they think
I'm reading them, you know, and I'm.
So all I'm saying is like, man, I've been doing readings all
day. The last thing I want to do is
read somebody at a party later or that like I'm walking to the
market and like seeing like their grandma walking down the
aisle, you know, was I'm pickingup cereal or something.
You know, it's like it just worklike that.
You, you know, I turn it on and turn it off, you know, And so,

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like, part of the mission I haveis not only just to normalize
it. It's not scary, but it's also
something like takes over you. Like, you always have control as
yourself. You know, it's not like spirits
come up and like, take over yourbody.
I mean, the perception that people have is wild to me.
So I think like when you're who you're describing is like,

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what's her name? Teresa Caputo the the Long
Island Media. Like where?
She just is overtaken in the grocery store.
Like I must tell you about your your wife that has passed on
kind of thing. And yeah, I'm starting to
realize, like, that's like, totally not the norm for people
who are legitimate in this space.
Yeah, and also you don't just goto strangers.

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I mean, obviously those people have signed waivers and you
know, whatever, so they know someone's coming.
But like, I would just make sureand you know, to put this out in
the world because I come from a very ethical place.
You know, that's what I teach people when they come on a
retreat, when they're learning, you know how to do this because
it's very exciting when you get those validations.
You want to, you want to test itand test it, but you have to be
careful because a lot of time you want to, you get something,

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it's really just your ego wanting to know you're right and
you're not really thinking aboutthe other person.
So it's really taboo just to walk up to a stranger and tell
them something because you can ruin their lives, you know, you
can't just assume that they wantto hear that information.
Not everybody wants that, you know, and so.
Totally. You have to let how else would
you know if someone's in a placeto be ready to hear something?

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Exactly. So yeah, yeah, I love that you
bring that up because I think that's something I don't hear
many people talking about. So well, that kind of to my next
question then is what opened thedoor for you to get into the
psychic space in the 1st place? Like, can you remember back?
Like, is it been your entire life or was there a turning
point for you? There was very much a turning

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point. You know, I always had it, like
a lot of people, you know, But there was a real turning point
when I moved from Los Angeles toFlorida.
And the reason being it was a lot of noise in LA.
You know, I had a very busy kindof crazy life.
And all of a sudden, you know, Ibecame a mom and that stuff was
all happening before. I'm kind of shortening it a

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little bit there to kind of get to the main thing.
But when things got quiet for me, when I was able just to have
more space on my own and my lifeslowed down, all that stuff just
came, bubbled into the surface, you know, in a big way.
And it was just, it just came onand it came on strong and it
came on fast. And all of a sudden I realized

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all the stuff I had been experiencing my whole life.
I went, Oh my gosh, this is all real.
Holy cow. Like I didn't make this up or
wishful thinking or in my imagination or I'm crazy.
Like it all became so clear and so loud for me that like, I had
no choice but to keep, you know,pushing forward with it, you

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know, and seeing where it would go.
Yeah, I was like Spirit just said, OK, Heidi, it's time.
Like it's time what you're. Gonna do.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's so cool.
So one thing when we first met that I really connected with you
on was we, we kind of have this shared similar background of
like these medical professional families, right?
And high expectations. And I mean, I'm, I'm in like the

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research field and, and my full time job.
And then here I am kind of coming over into the space
that's a little, little less untapped.
And like here you are, I guess you could say you have more of
an alt career compared to your family anyway, doctors, lawyers,
that kind of thing. So what was it like, you know,
to grow up in that kind of environment with the high
expectations and maybe people around, I guess I'm making maybe

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some assumptions here that it was, it was taboo to your
family. But you know, I think the world
looks at families like that as like not open to this kind of
thing or that, you know, you can't possibly incorporate like
this strict, you know, high expectation lifestyle along with
like psychic and mediumship abilities.
So kind of describe what it was like growing up in that

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environment and then how you were able to marry the 2 worlds
together at some point. Yeah, well, one, I do feel
lucky. My parents and my family have
always been very supportive of me, you know, And, you know, I
grew up in a hospital really. I mean, my dad picked me up and
then I would spend the rest of the afternoon in the hospital
and running around talking all the doctors.

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And, you know, that's what I didafter school, you know, wasn't
really normal. But, you know, my school was
close to my dad. And, you know, I went to like
the private girls school and everybody went to all the, you
know, big colleges. And so, you know, and I went to
cotillion. I have the stuff.
And like, I was like this black sheep kind of, but I used to see
them all the time. And I'll tell you what's
interesting is many years later,you know, as we get older, you

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know, we get in touch, you know,with people from high school we
haven't talked to in 20 years and blah, blah, blah.
So they, you know, I would run into some people and they'd be
and they would say, you know, when I told them what I was
doing, you know, some people, you know, would be judge mental
and someone go, of course you are like we remember when you
were 1213, you would totally walk in and just say this stuff,
you know, like, oh, there's suchand such in the corner and this

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person, that person. Then we and then I would go move
on and do whatever we're doing and I wouldn't even bat an eye
about it. It wasn't like I was, you know,
making a big thing about it. Be like, oh, yeah, there's like
a grandfather on the corner overthere.
But like, hey, what are we gonnahave for lunch, you know?
And so some people were like, this is exactly who you should
have always been, you know what I mean?
So it's a little bit of a mixed thing, but you know it.

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But it was always hard in the big picture just because in
general, the way I grew up in Los Angeles, what I do is just
weird, you know, because like, it just is everybody's like all
fat people and sorority people and all this stuff.
And, you know, I don't, you knowwhat I mean?
And so as I kind of came out, asI was older, you know, I, I

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really felt like a lot of judgement and like, OK, what
happened to Heidi? Like she was seems so normal
now. Like, you know, but I just kind
of own who I am, you know? And luckily, I've always been
very confident in who I am, eventhough I've struggled with
finding my way, owning this partof me, not, not at this point of
my life, but in the beginning. But I've always had just enough

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confidence to be like, Nope, this is who I am.
This is what I'm doing. I'm going to let them roll off
my back. I you know.
I completely agree with that sentiment.
It's like throughout my life have I always seen myself as
this super confident person, Like exactly where I want to be
in? Like no.
But one thing that thank God I was always born with was just
being sure of myself. And then exactly just just being

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sure in yourself can really light the path for you.
You know, it's like, yeah, you know, I don't know what I want.
I don't really know how I feel about myself, but I know that's
not for me. So I'm gonna keep moving this
way. So, you know, Speaking of that,
like just different times of your life where you felt like
people were maybe more judgmental.
Did you actually feel the pressure to suppress your gifts?

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Like, did you, did you actually actively do that?
I've never suppressed my gifts. I just suppressed myself.
I mean by that is I was always doing my work.
I'm very motivated, very determined.
Like I am so type 8 when I'm on a roll, like you cannot get me
off that train, you know? And so I never did that.
But I ended up losing a lot of friendships because I just, I

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got so focused. But also, I was tired of the
judgement. And, you know, I for a while, I
wouldn't even tell people what Ido.
I still do it sometimes because I don't want to get into it.
People say, what do you do? If I come at a party, if I'm
ever going to talk to somebody again, I'll be like, I'm a grief
counselor. And that shuts them up and they
won't ask me another question. You know.
OK, that's really sad. Boring job.

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OK, moving on to the appetizer table.
Like sweet. You know, like, I'm not going to
dive into that one. Yeah, you know, but, you know,
saying I'm a psychic medium in certain places, especially being
in Florida, except, you know, very religious.
And I always told dad to be careful.
But and and so I would, I would just kind of lie or avoid the

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conversation. You know, if somebody asked me
something, I kind of like pretend to like veer off because
I was like, I don't even want to, you know.
And so I that's why I'm by suppressing myself like I
wouldn't, it's not that I own who I was.
It was just the amount of questions I would get people
media like, what are you pickingup about me?
You know, and it's like, you're so good.
Then you know, what is what is my grandma's name?
Like they just start challengingme, like I'm like a circus

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monkey, you know, And as I told you, you know how many times
I've heard, you know, I'm like, oh, I'm a medium.
They're like, you look more likea small, you know, like every
loser. Guys that said that to me.
Oh my Lord. It's funny, and both times
you've said that to me, I think of my old job in high school.
I was a checker at a grocery store and if something didn't
scan they would go oh I guess it's free.

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But yeah, it's like. The amount of times and it makes
me laugh every time. Yeah.
So, you know, I, I would just kind of I, I would avoid it as
much as possible. Yeah, because I never really
wanted to lie. But then sometimes I, you know,
I would just say I'm a grief counselor.
If I don't, if I feel like I'm just going to know somebody for
longer than that hour, you know,I would help what I did, you

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know, because I'm never going tolie about what I do.
But people that are passing, like I'm not going to get
cornered for an hour because it's just, it's not it.
People are just curious about it.
And I don't blame them, you know, and I love talking about
my work in the right, you know, circumstance in in the right
environment. But it's like I don't need to be
cornered everywhere, you know, Igo.
So it's easier just not to say something sometimes.

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Totally that and that makes sense.
I I wouldn't want to sit and talk about my job all because
you obviously have a very fascinating, interesting job
that everybody could benefit from.
So, yeah, and I get it. I get it, you know.
You, you kind of brought up a good point of like, you know, a
couple of things. You said, you know, you're not
always on right. You have to like obviously get
into a state and read people andyou don't really like, you know,

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people want to challenge you andask you questions.
But I've actually always been curious, for somebody like
yourself who is very, very strong in their psychic
abilities, what do you notice about people that you just met?
Is there anything that stands out to you?
Do you see auras? Do you see anything interesting?
People out in the world, yeah. Yeah, you're out in the wild and

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you just kind of were around people.
No, you know what's really interesting?
I don't pick up anything when I'm not at work because I turn
off Now, the only time I will, which is interesting is if I
take like say like 2 weeks off of work and I'm out of the
routine of opening up and, and closing down.
That's when I'll start picking stuff up because it's like my

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boundaries go down a little bit and then I'll start picking
things up here and there. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no. We're on vacation, Heidi.
But you know, I never, I never even look and try to reach out
and read somebody. First of all, that's, that's,
that's someone's private space. So I would never do that without

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asking permission if somebody asked me to.
So that above everything like, you know, that authenticity and,
and ethics is important for anybody to know if you're
opening up those, those sites. And I, and I just do it
naturally. So I, I really don't, but you
know, but I'm open in the sense just like you are, like we still
get gut feelings about people wesee like they're, they're an

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ugly energy, you know, are they're a beautiful energy or
whatever. But we all have that, that gut
instinct that you know all, you know, clear sentience, your
clear feeling, you know so. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm glad, glad
you answered that for me becauseit's something I've always
wondered is like, I, I, I feel like, you know, I don't
necessarily like see colors whenI come into people's auras.

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But yeah, like you said, it's like a gut feeling, like you
pretty much know right away whenyou meet somebody.
Like it's in a business way or friend way or whatever.
If you're like, yeah, this isn'tgoing to work for me.
I don't really know why, but like, no, it's a no for me, you
know what I mean? Like, thankfully that's always
on for me seemingly anyway. But OK.
So I want to talk a little bit about psychics in the media and

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how they're portrayed. We kind of already hinted at the
beginning of our conversation, but how like, how are they
portrayed versus like the reality?
And why have you chosen to kind of say, I mean, I, I, you've
told me before you've had some opportunities to maybe like be
the face of like psychics and mediums, but but you say no and

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obviously for your authenticity.So that makes sense.
So I just kind of want to talk about a little bit more of like
what's going on there and why isthe media just on one about like
making psychics such a weird space when really it's a very
normal thing? Yeah, it is a very normal thing.
And there's also a lot of great psychics and a lot of great
mediums out there and I feel like, but there's more bad.
So they over shadow all the good.

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So all the ones that are good, it's like, you know, that are
are true and really genuinely help people.
We're like climbing this mountain, you know, and, and
then getting pushed back down, you know, So, you know, that's
why I really, I want to normalize it and that's why, you
know, and have the retreats, whatever.
Like, hey, like I'm going to show you, you know, this is real

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and you can do this. And like, you know, people are
authentic, you know, and this isreally healing and, and, you
know, just take out that weirdness.
Like I hate that it has to be weird.
Like why it's so frustrating. So, you know, I think because
there's so many things, I mean, most people have grown up with

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some sort of religion, right? I think that has a lot to do
with it. And so they are skeptic of, you
know, of, of mediums and, and, and whatnot.
And I think it gets worse and just going back to the media, it
gets worse because then we have the media presenting people as
like these cheesy woo woo or, you know, there's always shows

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to like challenge them to make them fail, you know, and it's so
awful to do like it really. I don't watch any of it, you
know, it. And some of it's so contrived.
And I don't know, I mean, I do think there's some that I think
are come back off the top of my head, but there are some more
real people kind of making theirway to the surface and it's

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getting more normalized. There's just not enough of it.
But I feel like people just havea hard time really believing
that there is something else outthere because it goes against
all their beliefs that they werebrought up with, whether by
religion or their family or, youknow, just generational.
And so when we don't understand something, we always have to
combat it. We can't just, you know, have

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some faith in it. Yeah, yeah.
And, and when you were saying that, I kind of thought about
how like, we don't go to the doctor's office and then just
like withhold information from them and then challenge them on
what they know, right? Like it doesn't work like that.
Like we want people to do good at what they're here to do.
So why would we then intentionally make something
harder for somebody? You know what I mean?
You know, yeah, 'cause like you're always coming from a

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defensive point in this profession.
You know, like somebody comes inand I'm like, I'm always going
to have to be in a defensive mode, right?
And not that I am, but you know what I'm saying?
Like, totally it because they'rewaiting, looking out for
something. They're they're they're waiting
for you to fail on something to,to them, they want you to be
right, but they want you to failat the same time.
It's a really strange thing. Do you think part of it might

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have something to do with? Like they don't want to think
it's that simple to get answers to stuff you know?
Maybe, you know, I, I, I think also it's, they want the answer,
but it scares them as well. And I just think that's a human
nature with people. Yeah, it's, it's a really
fascinating thing. You know, I analyze it, you

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know, all the time, every time Isee a, a client, how they, you
know, they all come in with different energies.
You know, some are so open and some are like hands, you know,
across their shoulders, like you're not getting anything and
I'm going to prove you wrong. And I'm like, and I look at
them, I'm like, I'm going to make you cry in like 2 minutes.
Game on. Slip it into a game like.

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Like, OK, let's go. OK.
This is kind of random, but whenyou see people that come in with
the open versus very closed energies, do you find that's
more related to their experiences in this life or just
soul experiences throughout different lifetimes?
What do you think contributes more to that?
That's such a complicated question because everybody's got

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such different backgrounds, you know, and also where they grew
up. I mean, it's so multifaceted.
I don't think it necessarily hasanything, just past lives.
I think it has to do with everything that's put upon them
in this life, you know, good andbad.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So some are just a harder nut to
crack than others in that way. Yeah.

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So what do you think? Like, OK, if if our listeners
haven't gathered by now, I'm just going to go ahead and say
it. We all have psychic abilities,
yes. We.
Do and that's what Heidi is awesome about like educating
people about she's built a wholebusiness around it.
So I want to talk about before we get into kind of the more

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specifics about what our listeners can do to understand
maybe what type of psychic abilities they have, What are
some of the most common fears people have about embracing
spiritual gifts in general? One again, religion comes up and
I know I brought this up, but I see it so much.
You know, they scared it will they'll go to hell, but that

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they're they're doing something taboo that there's summoning the
devil. I mean, you'd be surprised the
stuff that I see in here. So there's that people are
fearful of being judged by theirpeers, by their spouses, you
know, by, by people that they work with, by like opening this
up and owning it. You know, the biggest thing just

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on a personal level is people are scared of failing.
Like they, they're, they're feeling all this stuff, but
they're scared to say it becauseif they're wrong, they're going
to look so bad and they're goingto, their ego's going to be
bruised and, and, and that feelsterrible.
I mean, man, I remember way backwhen, if I got a no, Oh my God,

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I will cry like nobody's. Oh my God, you know I'd get 20
things right. I got one thing wrong.
I was like, it's terrible. Oh my gosh.
Oh completely. That's so relatable.
I actually remember one time back when I lived in Colorado, I
had some Co workers who were into some recreational
mushrooms. They were telling me all about,
you know, the experiences they had and one of them was talking

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about this thing called ego death.
And I was like, what's that? And like, well, the way they had
explained it at the time was like where basically everything
embarrassing or bad that's happened to you is brought to
the forefront and you have to confront it.
And I just remember being like, well, that's a drug I definitely
never want to try because I don't think I can handle that.
Like, I was acutely aware of it at the time that like, my ego

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was in like no place to be. And not that it was out of
control, it was just like, I didn't want to confront it, you
know what I mean? For a long, long time.
Oh yeah. You know, and eventually, you
know, you, the way you get past that, you know, it's just the
trial and error. So like, that's why I like, you
know, when I created these retreats, it's truly for
everybody. And you don't have to be have
experience. The other thing is people think

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if they delve into it, that theythey have to want to be a
psychic medium or, you know, want it to be a profession, but
it's not. This is a natural trait we all
have that we can use in our daily lives, whether for our own
daily, you know, intuition on making decisions or even being
in touch with their loved ones when we're grieving, you know,
and both sides of that. So, you know, it's accessible to

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everybody and and I've created asafe environment so that people
can come those fears that they have of failing.
I created the safest space. Like here, I'm going to catch
you, you're going to fail and that's OK.
But then you're going to Start learning what the yeses feel
like and what the noes feel like.
And you're going to have less noes because the only way you
know is if you keep doing it over and over again.
And then you start to notice those tiny little differences

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between the right and the wrong,and you'll start wedding them
out, you know, and that's how you build the confidence, you
know, and that's why I keep it small, you know, I, I have, you
know, for, for, you know, five nights.
So you can really start to get comfortable with the people
around you, you know, make a safe space.

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And it's not about, you know, that you have to do a profession
or that you have to be good. You don't have to be good.
That's the thing that people they're, they're scared, they,
they want to be good. They're scared to not be good.
I was like, it's not about beinggood, it's just about trusting.
Because you have to start somewhere, right You.
Have to start somewhere. I think I used this analogy
before. Like if you're going to be in a
bodybuilding competition and you've never been in the weight

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room in your life, that doesn't mean you just give up.
Like, you start somewhere, right?
You go to the gym, you do put some reps in, and you go again
the next day and you and the next keep.
Doing it, yeah, I like it too. Like a marathon, you know, it's
like, and it's a building a muscle.
Like you don't just run one mileand then run a marathon the next
week, you know, you run one mileand then 2 miles and so on.
It's the same thing with building your psychic intuition

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or your mediumship, you know, And there's some days you're
going to be able to run faster and somebody's going to be
slower and sometimes it's going to hurt.
You're not going to be able to, you know, it's just, it's the
same thing, you know? Exactly.
And and never judge yourself wherever you're at.
That's one thing I found to be big is like maybe yesterday I
was on in like the next three days I'm like I'm not nothing

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makes sense to me. It's like, I, I can't judge
myself for that and nobody should judge themselves for that
because that's, that's like the quickest way to just give up and
never want to do this stuff again.
But that's what most people do, you know, You got to get past
the hard part. It, it's the same with, with
everything, right? If you think about anything that
was worth having, like getting apuppy or having a baby, that's
where I'm living right now. It's like, well, the beginning

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phase is so difficult. You look back, you're like, I
don't even know how I got through that.
But now you're on the other sideand you're having a lot of fun
and then things are clicking right.
So, OK, well, I think that's actually a really great place
for you to kind of talk about a little bit more of like what,
what these beautiful, wonderful aspirational retreats are
aspirational for me. I should say I'd love to go on

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one I. Would love you know.
What's the main like goal and kind of how big are they?
What it what does like a day in the life of this retreat look
like? Sure, sure.
So every day we start with breath work.
So I do two different types of breath work.
One that's, you know, more intense to help people get past

(26:52):
that initial fear, like just release it, you know, at least
that, that, you know, the, the grief or, you know, just all
the, all the things that we comein with, you know, and then, you
know, we go into workshops, we start working on the psychic
level because that's like a lighter level, you know, and
learning all your Claires and how to open up your own

(27:13):
abilities to see what your strengths are.
You know what they're not like, are you, do you hear things
stronger? Do you see things or do you just
know things or do you feel things?
You know, because we all work differently.
There's no right or wrong or better, like I always heard
everything, you know, and some people don't here, but they see
things very clearly. And so I help open all that.
So, you know, helping people seelike, oh wow, I've got a

(27:33):
strength. So look, there's something
positive. You can't fail at anything
there, like because you're goingto have one of them.
Yep, A star. Like it's just natural, you
know. And so so then you start to
build that comments. OK, like cool.
Like I actually can really feel things or they surprise
themselves, you know. Yeah.
So, you know, opening those those up.
And then we do exercises, you know, psychically, you know, for

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the first two days and and we doa breath work every morning, you
know. So like the second day, I
usually throw one morning of yoga just because people like
yoga. I'm not, There's no, it's not a
yoga retreat. I'm really not.
Not a requirement. No, not at all.
But I do feel like it's good forpeople just to like stretch out
the, you know, their bodies and release tension that way one

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morning and then the other breath work I do is a completely
opposite thing where it's, it's a rhythmic slow breathing where
I guide them through a meditation.
And so it helps them get, you know, deep and grounded and get
into a meditative state easier. Because I find that especially
people who are beginners, it's really hard to meditate or sit
still. And I always tell people, you

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know, if you're meditating at home, you don't always have to
just be sitting and, you know, cross legged, it can be walking,
it can be cooking. It's, it's, it's just about
taking your mind off everything where you can just kind of be in
that, that quiet space in your, your head.
It's, it's just doing a, a routine thing that you don't
have to think about, you know, and allowing that space.

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But with the breath work, you know, it helps them get there
because they're focusing on their breath, not the meditating
and in that space and they, they're finding themselves in a
deep meditative state and they know how they got there because
they were just breathing. So I'm taking the, the focus off
of you're not, you don't have totry to make yourself sit, sit
still, you know, and because your mind is going to go all
over the place, you know, And sowe do that.

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So I, I work those into the, theretreats, you know, everyday as
I change it up and we just do lots of like fun exercises.
Like I make it fun. You know, it's not like a
challenge. I could like, OK, you have to
get up and perform, you know, they're working together in like
little groups. And I'm like, OK, I want you to,
you know, you know, use a pendulum and and you know, get

(29:41):
it to move and just get yes to no answers.
And, you know, but, and it's like little silly things like do
I have a dog or whatever? And like they, you know, people
start giggling because you just have silly things because
there's no pressure. I'm like, I just want you to
have fun, you know? Questions that allow you the
ability to let go of the outcome.
Yes, like you're not like, you know, am I going to get married
like you know, you know, pressure or like you know, or my
gun is my dad going to die of cancer or whatever.

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It's just like, hey, do I do I have a purple car, you know,
whatever, like you know, stuff up, but just to like play with
it and then start to get that confidence in all these little
things. So I do lots of little
activities like that and, you know, and feeling each other's
auras, like feeling energy, you know, with your eyes closed and,
and teaching yourself how to feel and see energy in a

(30:26):
different way than you do with your naked eye, you know, And so
we open up all those, all those things.
And so we, we progress every dayinto deeper, you know, things
going from the psychic, you know, into the mediumship and
then, you know, combining them and learning about our spirit
guides and, and then, you know, in the midst of all of it, you
know, each location is so different.

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They're all very special, beautiful places.
So I have activities in each onethat will do everyday, you know,
like we'll do a sound bath one night, like my one and coming
up, you know, we're doing falconry one day and then we'll
do forest bathing. You know, we go into the forest
and really connect with the, youknow, with the nature.
And so as I call them, I call them brain breaks.

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So, you know, because your brainneeds a break from doing all
this work because it really taxes you, you know, so we take
breaks and and so we go do an activity where you don't have to
do that, that work. But all the activities still tie
into you getting grounded like, you know, with nature, with
animals, with the trees. You know, it's all very
deliberate. You know, in Mexico, we're going
to do a sweat lodge, you know, and we connect with our

(31:31):
ancestors there and we release, you know, all these, you know,
old, you know, dark negative things and, you know, hi to a
waterfall with a shaman to release blocks.
And, you know, so they all work together, but make it easier and
fun and give you those, those rest moments, you know, in
between to kind of take in everything you've learned, you

(31:53):
know, and breathe a little bit. And obviously there's there's a
few hours of free time every dayjust to explore whatever
property you're on. And, you know, the goal is, is
for everybody to have, you know,a breakthrough on trusting their
own intuition or, you know, learning signs to be able to
communicate with their loved ones more.
I mean, I everybody always has abreakthrough and it's not.

(32:16):
And they're not going to go become a psychic medium after.
I mean, if they do, that's fine.And I'll train them or they'll
train reverence, you know, but everybody ends up leaving this
confidence. Like, OK, I know what I'm
supposed to do now. Like I can start trusting
myself, you know, and it builds a community.
I mean, everybody becomes best friends.
And you know, anybody I've worked with, they, they all
still talk to each other, you know, a year later, you know,
and stay in touch. And they're a support group for

(32:37):
each other because they feel like this was the best community
and family they've ever had in their life, you know, and
they've all gone through such a unique thing because going
through the stuff can be really scary.
It's a huge personal transformation.
So when you go through that kindof stuff with people, especially
this kind of thing, you can't talk about it with everybody
because a lot of them have judgment around them, but you

(32:57):
know, they can talk to each other.
And so there's a camaraderie there that's different than a
normal kind of Wellness because they're, they're hit another
level that most people around them will never hit these
connections that are so powerful, you know?
Because that it can only come through intention, right?
So if no way you're not being intentional about getting to
that level of growth, you could never really get there, right?

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So I, I love you kind of hit on all the different types of
things that you do in these retreats and I'm going to put
you on the spot of it 'cause I'mgenuinely so curious.
OK. Is there any one singular event
of all the things that you do onthese retreats that you feel
like is like the number one, like the most breakthroughs
happen or like are the most energetically cleansing or just

(33:39):
like the the biggest breakthroughs?
Maybe. Which one do you think is the
big one? I know, but I must know there's
like, I guess I would say two things.
One, the release breath work people will say is the most one

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of the most amazing breakthroughs.
I mean, I've had people go into convulsions and stuff and not in
a scary way, but literally just releasing and like crying.
But it's not it's not a sad cry.It's like a, Oh my God, I'm
letting it go cry, you know, andit's really powerful and you
feel so much more grounded and confident after you're like, OK,
I just let that fear go. It's gone now, you know, And

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that's been really beautiful to watch.
When people start doing the mediumship, that is the cutest,
sweetest, most fun part for me to see because that's the thing,
people are the most scared because we all get through.
We have that psychic ability in the sense that we have that gut
intuition. So people can relate to that
naturally, right? You know, I had a feeling that
was going to happen. So when they get that stuff
that's all exciting, you know, but when they, when I start

(34:46):
working with the mediumship and all of a sudden they start
describing somebody that actually makes sense of the
person across them, or they throw out an item or a name and
that person lights up. They're like, Oh my gosh, I did
it, I got it. And I was like, I told you, you
could, you know, and like, so that is the coolest part.
Like just, I love watching people have those moments, you

(35:06):
know, of realizing, like, you know, they are special because I
think they're not special and that you have to be special to
do this work. Yeah.
It's, it's it's it's weird. It's not weird weird, but you
know what I mean? Oh, totally.
Yeah, like I think we all like, especially in this country, in
the United States, it's like allabout individuality and having
your like one specific niche andlike, what are you really good

(35:27):
at? What do you bring to the table?
But to like, find out that we all again, like we all have
these psychic abilities within us, it makes us all like very
special, right? Like all of a sudden you don't
have to worry about what Bieber has over there because it's
like, I've got everything I needright here all within me.
And like, no one can take that away from me, you know?
Yeah. You know, and I like, you know,
I have so much experience at this point that I really just, I

(35:51):
want to just share it with everybody and then I'll go
through my next round because I,and I always tell everybody, you
know, I start every day as a beginner.
I do. And I learned something new in
every single reading with every single person.
I learn a new sign. There's no tool.
Like if you could be a family onthe wall.
And I was telling my, you know, my people as well, like just
start every day as a, as a beginner and just explore and
like, have fun with this. If you do that, then you're

(36:15):
going to succeed. You can't.
You got like take the pressure off.
Yeah. You know, so, OK, one other
question about the retreats and then I have a different
question. How do you pick the locations
and where have you been before? Because you've been to some
pretty awesome places. Well, I've travelled a ton.
I travel a lot in general. I've actually been to like over

(36:38):
60 countries. So maybe, I guess, yeah, like
give a couple, maybe like a few of the really the coolest places
you've posted retreats. At yeah, well, right now I'm,
I'm still like, you know, building my, my next one that I
really want to do is Vietnam. So cool.
Yeah, I was hoping to do it in 2026.
I'm hoping maybe later 2026 or 2027.

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So I'm trying to manifest that one.
But you know, I'll give. You some good energy your way.
Yeah, yeah. So Costa Rica, really beautiful
and I think I'm going to do 1 there again only because I keep
getting a lot of requests for it.
And then I've got 1 coming up inEngland, which is probably my
most spectacular location. They're all really special, just

(37:22):
in different ways. The one in England is 1000 year
old estate with 22 bedrooms on 3000 acres with the
state-of-the-art Wellness spot attached to it.
So like you're in this basicallymajestic, you know, essentially
like Castle. I mean, that's a state home, but
you're all. Private to you in.
The yeah, and, and I have yeah, you can't stay there unless you

(37:42):
rent the whole place out. Like you can't just go, you
know, visit. So.
Oh, it's, it's, it's spectacular.
And it's literally like a once in a lifetime, you know, sort of
thing. And the, and the halls and the,
the rooms are just just filled with so much energy from so many
hundreds of years of people walking through there.
And it's just, it's so cool. And then next, how you can feel

(38:06):
it when you're in a building, You're just like, wow.
Like I was in Estonia one time afew years back.
And like, I mean, I was in the castles that were built in the
1400s. And the amount of things you can
just feel it's, it's incredible.Totally so similar, you know,
sort of thing. And, and it's got such a great
energy because they they hold really beautiful, you know,

(38:27):
events there and retreats and the people who work there are
lovely. So it's just filled with so much
beautiful energy. But you can also still feel all
the spirit energy, but not in a scary way.
It just feels like alive, like it's the most amazing place to
like be learning psychic and mediumship like, you know,
because you kind of feel like you're in your own little
Hogwarts essentially. You know, I was waiting for
like, the staircase to move a little bit.

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Yeah. Oh, I love that.
But. Then Mexico is really the the
one after that. November is totally opposite.
What's very rustic? It's smaller.
It's like you're in a bathing suit in a sarong and barefoot
the whole time. Any private beach with all this
jungle around you and, you know,no, no cell service and Wi-Fi

(39:11):
only in one little area. And what a.
Dream. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, to me like, because I'm both of those, you know, I like,
they're all, you know, you know,luxury.
But Mexico is like, I'd call like barefoot luxury, you know,
'cause it's not like a fancy. It's, you know, there's no fancy
spot this one, you know, the, the, the place you get a massage
is like a Hut with like a littletable under it.

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But that's part of like, it's really like disconnecting and
like being like in nature. And I love that, you know?
No electronics, Leave them in the room.
Yeah, it's just, it's a whole different thing.
You know, you're really just being like on the beach and in
the water and soaking up the jungle and, you know, real
peaceful in that way. And then North Carolina is a

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whole another thing because it, you know, I have an 85 acre farm
with all these homes on it, but all the inside of the home.
So like you're in a cool New York apartment, you know, so
they're just really, you know, amazing and, and, and, and an
incredible spa where you actually can get like other
readings. So like in your downtime, it's a
unique place like that. So like you can get Reiki

(40:16):
healing in astrology heating. So instead of getting like a
massager going for a hike in thejungle in your off time, you
know you can go do astrology reading and, you know, do.
Like a human design reading and like do all these cool kind of
woo woo things, you know there, you know, and and then like
we'll be hiking up into like, you know, the Appalachian
Mountains and stuff. So, you know, and having like a

(40:38):
live Asheville bands come, you know, at night around the fire.
So it's a whole different vibes.So you know, it's it ironically,
no pun intended, like I use my gut feeling when I find these
places. I just get a sense of like where
I want to be and then I just researched and it's and it's
always just like worked out and it's been a good match, you

(40:58):
know, with the locations and like, I love them.
They love me. And you know, and what's really
interesting and wonderful is allthe locations I pick.
It wasn't even my attention necessarily when I started, but
I realized I obviously have a thing and I and so I'm making
sure every retreat is like that.Every retreat is all about
giving back to the land. It's all sustainable.

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They're all putting money back into, you know, protecting the
jungle and it brought sanctuary.They've already done rewilding
where they have planted like I think over 300,000 trees back
onto the land because all that land, you know, it's become
farmland over the years. You know, it's all been wiped
out. So they're, they're trying to
bring it back to its natural state that it was like 1000
years ago, you know. And so, yeah, so I try to pick

(41:42):
places that, you know, it's people really taking care of the
land and the nature around them and giving back to it.
And so lots of positivity then would be a lot of positivity.
And it's all, you know, going back to good people and to good
causes, essentially, you know? That is so cool.
Well, consider this on my dream list of things to to aspire to

(42:06):
go on, because seriously, like Iall of that is my love language,
the spa, the, you know, sound back like everything and it's
all all things that I like have always just been drawn to
naturally my whole life. I don't know what it is about a
spa, but like, is that just something that people who are
really in tune with spirit like are naturally drawn to?
I don't. Have no idea.

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I love it, I don't. Know I can live in a spa.
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, they all have spots.
The only one that doesn't is Mexico, but that's because
Mexico is Mexico. It's it's unique thing in
itself. But some people are like, I
don't want to be like in a, you know, a, a big estate.
Like I've had people in man, I just want to be on the beach and
like I love that there's nothingthere.

(42:46):
You know, it's this little tiki Hut, you know, bar and like 1
table for dinner, you know, under the little thatched roof
and like something like, oh, that's what I want.
You know, it's so each one is sounique and it's complete
demographic or you know, type ofperson that's going to be drawn
to each one. Totally.
Yeah, you got all the flavors covered.
All the flavors, yes, yes. I love that.

(43:08):
Well, Heidi, you next thing we like absolutely have to talk
about is the different kinds of Claire's because I want again,
our audience to maybe as they listen to maybe awaken something
in them like, Oh yeah, that actually sounds familiar.
So and I know I'll I'm going to keep a actual tally of like
which ones we're going through as you say them because there's

(43:28):
so like 8 of them. Is there 7 or 8 different?
Ties what we focus on 4. Oh, they're we're going to.
OK, well, let's do 4 then. Let's.
We're going to do 4 because those are the main ones that
people use and that we all use on a daily basis.
OK, I love that. Because if you try to go any
deeper than that, it's like, wait, what?
There's like. No, it's much.

(43:49):
Yeah, Perfect. We're starting with the Abcs.
Let's do that. Before we start with the ABC, so
let's talk about why don't you go ahead and break down the
different types of the four mainClaires for us.
And as you're kind of breaking them down, you know, talk about
what each one feels like or how to practice that or what, I
guess how that manifests in reallife for people.

(44:09):
Sure. So I'll start with the most
obvious one, which is the gut feeling, which is clear
sentience. OK, that's clear feeling.
We all use that on a daily basis.
Like, oh, I had, you know, so many people say, oh, I knew
that, you know, I'm sorry, I felt like that was going to
happen. Or, you know, I had a feeling
about that, you know, and that'sthat's your inner psychic
intuition in your gut, you know,gut feeling.

(44:32):
And so we all use that every single day.
You know, I have a gut feeling that's a good person.
Or I have a gut feeling. I should, you know, pick this,
you know, I don't know this job over this one.
You know, you're using your gut majority of that time.
You know what? And it's not.
Just for women like everybody, kind of no.
Yes, and I have a lot of men. I have a lot of men, you know,
who come on retreats as well, a lot.

(44:53):
And so, you know, that's just really using any of our clears,
you know, it's when we get a sense of something.
To me, it's really simple. It's just taking that extra
second to breathe into it and feel like, OK, what that?
Yep, that's definitely what I feel.
Because we do have to be careful'cause sometimes we're acting

(45:14):
out of unnecessary fear, you know, 'cause sometimes our gut,
you know, is, is right. But sometimes we're allowing our
fear to get in there and like our gut actually knows the the
right thing, but then we let ourfear get in there.
So it's like taking an extra moment to take that extra deep
breath. OK, just what I really feel or
am I letting my fear get in there?

(45:34):
So that's a little bit tricky. And actually, I, I will just
piggyback on that. One thing I heard recently that
I'm sure some of our listeners have heard this too, is that
everything, every feeling is either rooted in fear or love.
So. Sure.
Absolutely, like try to kind of if you, if it works better to
kind of be like this way or thatway with it, it's like which way

(45:56):
are you actually feeling? Is this a fear feeling or is
this a love feeling? Because if it's fear, it's not
your gut, right? Yeah.
Well, that mean unless it's telling you to get the heck away
from something. But.
Yes, yeah. And then, yeah, so gut, you
know, gut feel like I shouldn't go down that alley.
Like, yeah, listen to that. You're probably going to be
right about it. You.
Know exactly? You know, and that's and that
comes from fear as well, but that fear is real, you know, So

(46:18):
it's like, let's just that's what you.
Actually good use of fear. Together, you know, in that kind
of situation. So that's the first one.
The other one would be clear cognizance and that's your,
that's your clear knowing where you just know stuff like all of
a sudden you just know, the phone rings and you know who's
going to be on the other side. You know, or sometimes people

(46:38):
just, they, they just know something's going to happen.
You know, they, they, they know something's wrong with somebody.
You know, there's that knowing and that and now Claire constant
Claire sentience kind of run together sometimes, right.
So you see something like knowing something's wrong with
somebody because you're actuallyusing both there.
Your mind is going. I know this because I I, I know

(47:00):
by sensing it, but I'm also you're also feeling it at the
same time. So you're getting like double.
Confirmation there, yes. So you know, and that's that's
what we really do use all of them at the same time, just
trying to break them up. And sometimes it may just be
more one than the other, you know?
So that's just, you know, that'sjust like we just when you just
know and you don't know where the information came from and

(47:22):
you just know it, you know, like, I know that person's going
to turn that direction or like Iknow he's going to say this, you
know, not just because you know somebody, you know, because
they're predictable, but you just, sometimes you just know
that stuff and that's your clearcognizance.
There's no real explanation for it.
It's just a knowing. That makes sense.
Yep, definitely. You know, and that's what they.
Too in the spirit of coming out of spiritual closet, if there's

(47:45):
one Claire I identify with the strongest, it's it's that one
Claire cognizance. It's kind of in my whole entire
life. It's like, why do I know this
random thing or like how do I know that's about to happen?
And I only just in the last couple years of my life I've
been putting that together. It's like, oh, it's message from
spirit. I'm not crazy.
It's like not coincidence either.
It's like I. It's not and and it's something

(48:05):
that's really kind of it's hard to explain because like it's
something you like, you just know and it comes out of
freaking nowhere it. Is it is it's like, you know, my
mom's gonna love that. Like, oh, I, I bet you do think
you know everything. It's like, no, no, no, trust me,
I'm not saying I know everything, not even like 1% of
the, the massive amount of information on this planet.
But like when, when it's applicable and when I come upon

(48:29):
situations where I'm going to need to know something to like
be successful in it, the information always just seems to
dump in my head at the right time.
You know what I mean? So.
Right, Yeah, yeah. And then so then we have
clairvoyance, which is clear scene, right.
A lot of people say it's your third eye, you know, so it's
like you sometimes it's seen something, you know, more
visually, you know, but it's, it's usually in your mind's eye.

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So it's like a lot of people getpsychic information on their
dreams. OK, I, I, I hear that a lot.
And, you know, every way it comes in for everybody's
different, but like in that way.So it's like if you have a
dream, you know, look, I've seenso many times people, I had a
dream, my, my, you know, my dog was going to die and then they

(49:13):
were dead the next morning. That actually happened to me
when I was younger. I just, I literally had a dream
and, but like, it was like I, you know, I had a dream that my
grandma was going to pass and they passed, you know, the next
day or whatever. So that's your clairvoyance.
But it's also bit of clear cognizance because it's like you
just knowing, but you're also seeing it.
So you might get these little visions or like sometimes you
get a flash of something like, you know, not to be on the dark
side, like a car crash. Then all of a sudden the crash

(49:35):
happens, right. To live more there.
So, you know, that's where clairvoyance or clear scene or
sometimes it like you may like alot of people, they they
experience that when they're daydreaming.
Yeah, you know, they're like seeing something, but then all
of a sudden it happens. You think you're kind of
daydreaming. You're like, oh, that's so
weird. I saw that, you know, or like

(49:55):
almost like a Deja vu, I was going.
To say, yeah, like deja vu, Yeah.
And I, I kind of want to ask a question too about like when you
say seeing because I think there's like this stereotype
again, that psychics are just seeing things with their eyes
open, walking around or whatever.
What can you, like, define seeing exactly?
Or like what where to look for that when you're talking about

(50:15):
seeing something? And that's a really good
question because it, it, it, it's like seeing it in the front
of your like forehead essentially.
You know, So like when I see people on the other side, it's
not like I'm visually seeing them like stand in the corner
next to the chair that I mean, they are, but it's like it's in
your mind's eye. A lot of people, I think they

(50:37):
feel like they're supposed to see it, like literally like
standing in front of them, whatever it is, but it's not.
It's like a flash in your head that's like a like a photograph
or like a slideshow. Like if you were to close your
eyes and imagine something, thatpicture in your head, that's
what. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
OK. That is that is that.
Yeah. Like just seeing something

(50:57):
before it happens or, you know, like I'm using my clairvoyance
when I, when I reach in to open up to loved ones on the other
side, you know, I'd line them upin the room a certain way so I
know what the relationship is. And so then I see them, you
know, I see I'm like, OK, if she's on my right, I know that's
a mom, right. And then I see somebody in the
corner, I go, OK, that's going to be a friend.

(51:19):
And then I see, you know, a man on my left.
I know that's going to be a dad.So that's using my clairvoyance,
you know, but I'm also feeling their energy as well.
OK, This feels like a female. This feels like a male.
You know, I see that they look older, like Gray hair.
I see that they look shorter. So they're smaller, younger
person, right? So that's where where that comes

(51:42):
in. OK.
So we got sentience, cognizance,voyance.
And then there's clear audience,which is audience hearing.
So the audience was the first thing for me.
I would hear them perfectly. Loved ones on the other side.
Now it's a little bit differently psychically, but
I'll just tell you auditorily because this is maybe helpful

(52:05):
for people when they feel like they're hearing voices a lot of
times, like they're hearing their loved ones, but they
second guess it, you know, but they actually are.
And sometimes it's truly just like your higher self telling me
something. So some people will hear it,
they won't necessarily see it. You'll hear like, you should
really turn right, you know? And I'm like, yeah, I really
should, you know, because I'll hear like, voices in my head.

(52:28):
And I don't think I'm nuts. Maybe some people do.
But, you know, sometimes I can tell, like, oh, it's my grandma.
Sometimes I don't know where it's coming from, but it almost
sounds just like me. But I, I can, I hear it.
It's like don't do that. This is maybe a strange
question, but like, do you, whenyou say hearing, like if
someone's right next to me saying something, it's almost
like I can feel the vibration onmy ear, right?

(52:49):
Like do you experience that physical feeling as well with it
or it's just in your head? No, it's just like in your, in
your head, OK? It's not like you're hearing,
you know, spirits knock on windows and doors or anything
like that. I think I literally.
Just read that the other day of like, oh, you'll hear like
knocks on your wall or whatever.No, like I don't think so.

(53:10):
I mean, house is, you know, stuff like that happens.
I do house rings, I love doing house rings and there's all
sorts of fun stuff that happens.But that's not what this is.
But the, the clear audience, I, you know, people, I think some
people hear more than they realize.
You know, they think they're just kind of talking to
themselves. But a lot of times it's their
higher self trying to tell them something, you know, and, you

(53:33):
know, and there's easy ways to, you know, build that.
But the clear eyes is going to come in more with the mediumship
than with the psychic because hearing people's voices, hearing
what they have to say, it's like, I always heard people's
voices very clearly. Like, you know, I hear a man
come in, oh, what are we doing today?
Oh, man, you know, and they're like, oh, that's exactly how my

(53:55):
dad spoke, you know, you know, or they're like, you know, super
hyper and, you know, you know, high pitched voice or, you know,
so I, I, I always could hear those things.
You know, people can tap into that one, especially when
they're doing the mediumship or,you know, tap into their higher
self to hear their voice, you know, their higher self voice,

(54:15):
which might be a little bit of adifferent octave than their
normal voice. And if they start to be able to
differentiate that, they can understand a little bit more.
And also to understand that the voices they're hearing that
sound like their dad or their brother, that was Passover.
It really is them. It's not their imagination.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's, that's so cool.
And like, I think the next thingI want to understand then is

(54:35):
like, self doubt is a really bigbarrier, I would say that keeps
people from fully expressing their psychic abilities.
And I mean, could totally cold stop you, right?
Like if you, if you don't trust yourself, what good is any of
these gifts, right? So I want to understand,
especially because you, you literally teach this for a
living. What is trusting your intuition
look like practically when you're starting to doubt

(54:57):
yourself? Like how can you start to
instill that confidence that it's like, I'm not crazy and
just hearing voices in my head, for example, Because I mean, you
know, like you could actually have a medical problem in some
cases, right? But like, how do you, how do you
kind of help yourself understandthat?
Like no, like I what I'm experiencing, I'm not making up.

(55:19):
This is real. And like, I want to lean into
this more. Like what?
How do you help people with that?
That's, you know, it's about thetrial and error because that is
how you build it, because you have to start to learn the
difference of what feels right and what feels wrong.
And you need a safe environment to do that.
You know, whether it's at home with people that you trust or,

(55:40):
you know, at a retreat or whatever, you know, getting that
stuffed out. It's it's doing the practice,
Raja. Like that's what it really comes
down to. I can't just tell somebody, Hey,
be confident. You only become, you know, if it
was so easy, my goodness, you'reso easy going to start a whole
empowerment coaching business. You know, it's, it's, it's like

(56:03):
breaking things down by helping people feel confident in each
unique way first, you know, and also for them to learn how they
work. Like I don't teach people to
work like I do. I just work the way I do because
I organize the things I do the way, the way that works for me.
But so like, if I see that you work a certain way, I'm going to

(56:25):
help you become confident in theway you work 'cause we always
can try to compare ourselves to other people.
What? Well, they're doing better
because they're like this and, and so maybe I should do it
their way. It's like, no, that's just their
way. You have to find your way.
So I help people find confidencein how they work.
And then I help them feel stronger and stronger by trial
and error and support, you know,to get to that place and they

(56:47):
will eventually get there. And then once you get that
first, yes, boom, that compass level just goes up and I won.
I was like, you're going to havea couple Nos after this, but as
long as you know that you're going to be fine.
Yep, you know and like nothing bad is going to happen and you
replace it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's like it's just
because you got it right once and wrong another time, that
doesn't mean you're wrong every time after that.
It's it's like it's truly developing a skill.

(57:09):
Like not everyone is going to belike a 100% perfect every.
Time. No, it's impossible to be and I
I'm not even and also each person you work with is
completely different. So you know, you may get 10
right like things with one person, the next person you get
0 and it's not because you're bad, it's just different
energies. If that's that's all it is, if

(57:29):
there's nothing wrong with you and you don't suck, it's just
maybe you're not the right person for that, you know,
particular person or they're harder energy for you and like
that's OK. You know, and so with that, what
are some like common like if somebody the beginner assume
they have nothing or no tools, they they're just learning about

(57:50):
this. What are like, what's the top
one or two things you recommend for people who are just getting
started at developing their intuitive gifts that they can do
at home tonight even? Sure, you know it.
It's it sounds cliche, but meditating is everything it
really is. You define what meditating is a
little bit because I think some people think it's just like

(58:12):
you're sitting cross legged and you're humming and you know what
I mean, The stereotypical meditation.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, I used to have the
best meditations when I used to run.
And what I did was I had a playlist that I never changed,
so it became monotonous background noise because if
you're listening to something that's new, your brain sparks
up. You're like, oh, I like that
sound. They're like, oh, what was that

(58:32):
word? Right.
So we, we, we want to try to understand it or we want to
dance to it or whatever. But so I picked some, I kept the
same playlist on purpose becausethen it just became background
noise. So it distracted me enough that
I could just be clear and have my, I mean, I literally meditate
while I was running, you know, because it was, it was taking my

(58:54):
mind off of things. So I tell people it can be, it
can be a walk. You don't have to be in some Zen
trance, you know, but you know, it's, it's getting grounded into
your, your body. You know, we talked about
opening up chakras and stuff andI wouldn't have necessarily
beginners try to figure all thatout.
I mean, obviously look into it getting grounded, but I wouldn't
overwhelm myself with that, you know, And I, for me, I feel like

(59:17):
it's, it's really good just to find that peace, you know,
inside yourself, start to feel grounded in your, in your body
and see like where, where are you feeling fear and tension?
And like, why are you feeling that?
Because that's the first thing you're going to feel.
It's like, what am I doing? You know, I'm scared.
What if I do get something? What if I don't get something?
You're scared of everything. You know, it's like, OK, well,
let's just breathe through that.Let you know.

(59:38):
Some people, they might find that it's really good to do a
guided meditation so they can follow someone's voice.
Some people need absolute quiet and some people just need, you
know, music. There's no, there's no wrong
way. It's just learning how to get
like the monkey mind out of there because when we start to
get still, we're like, oh, I forgot to send that e-mail.

(59:59):
I mean, I'm so guilty of it. I go through it every day
myself. I'm like, Oh my God, I just
stop. There's a lot going on.
There's a lot. Going on there and also your
brain tries to distract you because you got that horrible
ego and I was like, you can't dothis, you're not good enough.
That's your imagination, You just made it up, blah, blah,
blah. So it's starting to get
comfortable with that and just letting that stuff come out and
let it go, you know, And I really think it's really great

(01:00:22):
for people to, you know, to start looking for their spirit
guides because everybody's got them, you know, and allowing
those people to start coming in and that that's a little bit.
I only say that because if thereare some people that are
meditating, I just want them to hear that that if they're going
to that next level, they've got past all that.
Yes, but it's just about it's truly about being quiet and like

(01:00:45):
asking to connect to your higherself, to connect to your guys,
to connect to your loved ones and, and start to trust and
start writing down what you're getting.
You know, I used to do meditations where I would just
be still, you know, and ask for,you know, spirit to come forward
and let me know what I need to know for the day, right?
Just start there, OK, Like what,what what is going to happen

(01:01:05):
today that I need to know about?Or is there some advice up
there? Right.
It might be like, hey, be nice to the person next to you at
your office because they actually had a bad day, had a
bad morning or something. And then, you know, you go in
and that person's crying, like, oh, OK, I knew that earlier,
right? Little things like that, you
know, I just made that up obviously, but.
And I'm going to underline to the value of writing it down

(01:01:26):
because I can't see how many times it's like I've gotten
something that didn't seem applicable and then maybe like a
few days later, it popped up andthankfully I had written it down
to like, validate it. Like, am I crazy?
Did I actually think that before?
Yeah. Yeah.
And also, it's OK to be in a meditation, get something, open
your eyes, write it down and go back in, you know, And also know

(01:01:47):
that there's going to be some days that you don't want to do
it or you can't do it, and that's OK.
Don't force it because then you're going to drive yourself
crazy for half an hour with God.I can't.
But sometimes you may not be able to be like, you know what?
I'm gonna let it go today. Yeah.
And I'm gonna, you know. Try tomorrow.
You just literally can't today. That's fine.
Like you have permission. It's not like going to work
Monday through Friday. You can actually just be like,

(01:02:07):
yeah, not today, this isn't. Yeah, and the, the only thing
with the mutation, you don't have to do 3 hours a day.
It's even a few days a week. But it's it's being consistent
with it, but also learning how to calm your mind so that you
can be open to all those Claire's.
Because if you're thinking aboutall those other stuff, you
you're not going to hear, you'renot going to know, you're not
going to see, you're not going to feel because your head's all
over. So it's really trying to make

(01:02:29):
your kind of like a clear vesselfor you to be able to access all
of that information. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, and learn and, and,
and what I will tell you is veryhelpful is, you know, you know,
taking all this stuff that is driving you crazy in your brain.
Like, you know, whether you put it in a garbage bag or you put

(01:02:49):
in a closet and like just put itin there for the time you're
going to do your, your, your meditation, you know, and, and
then go back to it. Cuz it's not, it's not going
anywhere. It's going to be there as soon
as you come back out. Right.
Yeah. Like giving yourself permission
to kind of like break up with that stuff for the moment and
then get back into it because, yeah, the place is always
waiting for us, so you might as well.
Yeah, it's it's it's always waiting.

(01:03:11):
You know, yeah, maybe something else that I think would be
important to talk about too would be like intention setting.
So yeah. So I was about to go into that.
OK. Perfect.
I was looking about to go like I'm just.
Kind of like I knew that. No, just kidding.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. There you go.
It's setting an intention of what you want to get for the
day. You know, you know, sometimes

(01:03:34):
you might be like, OK, I just want to learn how to be still
or, or my intention is, you know, to be in touch to the
level. My intention is to, you know,
access something clairvoyant or,you know, clairaudient and just
see what comes. And there's going to be days.
Nothing comes. But you always have to set the
intention. I always tell people the biggest
things happen in the, in, in thequietest of times.

(01:03:57):
And, you know, 'cause I would find that like, I would
meditate, you know, setting the intention to connect with spirit
and whatever. And, you know, I would have a
whole lot of stuff. And then all of a sudden I have
times where it just was black for a while and I'm like, OK to
lose it, but I, but I was confident, you know, I'm going
to roll with this. I'm going to keep doing it.
And it's, you know, black for all.
And then all of a sudden there'sthis huge epiphany.

(01:04:17):
Like, you know, a whole nother level of stuff came through And
I was like, whoa, you know, I learned that over time.
And so I like to remind people like nothing's going to happen
overnight. You know, you just, you just
have to be consistent, you know,with it.
And but yeah, but setting the attention of what you want to do
for the day and and don't don't make it so big.

(01:04:39):
And the and the other thing is people expect things to happen
so fast. The reason why there's not a lot
of good of psychics and memes out there as well as everybody
gets things. They'll get something right once
and then they think they're so great and then they haven't
actually done the work for it tostay consistent or build that
muscle right. And then they go bloat and they
hurt people. The other thing is people expect
everything to happen to me. Like why?

(01:04:59):
I meditated 3 times and I'm not getting anything.
It's like, are you serious? You know, like you have to work
at it. It's like you you're not.
You can't just run the mile in the marathon.
Yeah, you know, you have to makethat that connection.
It is like somewhat of a lifestyle change in that way of
like just commitment to the practice.
Like if you want to make this part of your life, it's not just
like to your point, you can't just show up one day, have it

(01:05:22):
work, and then keep out for three months and come back.
Yeah, they don't want to commit,you know, and that's why so many
people fall out of it, because they they can't commit to what
it takes to build that muscle and the work.
Abilities. Unfortunately, no.
No, you've got to do the work, you know, and if you do the work
and you come from an authentic good place, it's going to
happen. Yep, yeah, that's yes authentic

(01:05:44):
place. That's that's a big that made me
light up when you say that because yes, I think the more
just honest with yourself that you are and your intentions and
just trying to do like good things for you and others around
you, just the easier time you'regoing to have with stuff right.
So. Yeah, yeah.
The only glass thing I will say really quickly that is important
with setting the intention is knowing, you know, teaching

(01:06:06):
yourself, which I teach people in in the retreats is opening up
and closing down. Because when you open up, a lot
of people don't close down after.
So then they might get headacheslater or feel particularly
drained. And so when you do these
meditations, like imagine surrounding yourself with
whatever protective, you know, thing, maybe it's a white bubble

(01:06:29):
or a cloud or you know, whatever.
And imagine like opening up yoursenses.
And when you, when you finish meditation, imagine closing
down, whether you're closing doors or closing a flower,
whatever. So mentally using your
imagination to protect yourself to, to close it all down.
So you're going along your day because if you stay open, it
will wear you out. And so that's an important part

(01:06:50):
that I wanted to mention. Yeah.
Thank you for that. I was going to very good point
and something that I need to getbetter at honestly.
And I've heard different things of like, sometimes people like
to take a shower or like wash their hands with the intense.
Absolutely, like different things like that.
Whatever it is, it, it, you know, it's whatever works for
you. There's no wrong way, but it has

(01:07:11):
it's, it's what it symbolizes for you.
So then your your brain will mentally just do it.
You know, I always close down like a flower at the end of the
day, you know, almost like, likea little Venus fly check, like,
you know, and it closes up and then I go, you know, whatever
I'm gonna do, whatever I'm gonnado, you're not.
You're not running into people at the grocery store.
Trying to No, no, I'm open. Trying to fight enough

(01:07:33):
information on people, yeah. Well, Heidi, do you have any
last words of encouragement for people as they're kind of
either, you know, whatever stagethey're at in their journey like
any any last bit of encouragement you have?
No, I would just. Say like, really have faith that
like you have you, you have the power to do it and you know, and
there's nothing to be scared of.By opening this up, it only

(01:07:55):
makes you a more grounded and touched individual, like only
good can come from be more in touch with yourself and your own
power. Like nothing bad is going to
come from that. You know, it's OK to be curious
and it's like it's OK to be you and like, don't let yourself be
judged because anybody's judgingyou.
They're ignorant and they don't want you don't want those people
in your life. And when you open up more,

(01:08:16):
you're going to find that you'regoing to have less and less
people like that in your life. You're going to get much more
discerning because you don't want to deal with it anymore.
And I know you know this going through absolutely.
Well, and it seems like, you know, when you close doors on
things that aren't serving you, it's like other ones open.
Better people, better connections come into your life.
It's like when you consciously make the choice to like, I'm
only going to be like giving my energy to people that deserve

(01:08:38):
it. It just seems like better people
just show up into your life. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah, And like, what's wrong
with healing yourself and being in touch and like making a
better life for yourself throughyour intuition or, or healing
your own grief by being able to keep in touch with your loved
ones? I mean, like, how can that be
bad? Like no I.
I can't think of a reason. Seriously.
I always go back to like, you know what, Like if you're not

(01:08:59):
paying my bills, I don't want tohear about it.
It's not if you're business really what I'm doing with my
life. So.
So I guess if you want to pay mybills, that's another
conversation. No, I'm just joking.
No. Yeah.
Well, anyway, awesome. Well, Heidi, I can't thank you
enough. Thank you for sharing your
wisdom and your talents with us today.
And I truly can't wait for the next one.

(01:09:21):
I'm going to manifest that rightnow.
Can't wait for the next. One we have, we'll do a whole
other thing, but thank you so much for having me on.
It's been such a pleasure and honor to to speak with you
today. And I hope, you know, people out
there found it helpful and able to find their way and find, you
know, some hope and what they'refeeling that they're not crazy.
Yes, I think that's the big one,right?
Yeah, No, I definitely think they will.

(01:09:42):
So awesome. Well, thank you so much, Heidi.
You're welcome. Bye.

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