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September 22, 2025 59 mins
Is the Heart A Consciousness? Pa'Ris'Ha,and her international panel of Co-hosts continue Chapter 1 of "The Heartmath Solution" by Scientists Doc Childre, Howard Martin, and Donna Beechand.  The discussion centers around scientific research which has shown the human heart to have its own intelligence. How does it respond to what we experience? How does it communicate to us? With as many neurons in the heart as the brain, who is really "in charge?"  Great informative show! Join Pa'Ris'Ha, and Co-hosts Gabrielle Thompson, Mt. Beauty, AUS;   Evelyn Yllada, Miami FL; Marianne Love, Melbourne AUS; Tryna Cooper, Denver CO; and and Geraldene Dalby-Ball, Sydney AUS, as they explore, Co-hosts Gabrielle Thompson, Mt. Beauty, AUS;   Evelyn Yllada, Miami FL; Marianne Love, Melbourne AUS; Tryna Cooper, Denver CO.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
This is Quantum Leak Book Club and I'm Perisher, your
host and my co host this week will be Gabrielle
Thompson of Mount Beauty, Trina Cooper of Denver, Colorado, Mary
Anne Love of Melbourne, Australia, and Alaway of Sydney, Australia.
We also have Evelyn Yolande of Miami, Florida joining us today.

(01:00):
So we are discussing the book an exciting book by
the way, that's called The Heart Math Solution, and we
are going to deal a little more extensively with chapter
one as I feel there's a lot of things in
it that we ought to be aware of before we
proceed any deeper into what heart Math's research has proved.

(01:22):
So there are some definite questions that our co hosts
are going to discuss with us as we move into it.
But one of the beautiful things that I found over
the years, especially once heart math actually started releasing research,
is actually the boost or the charge that it began
to actually give the pursuit and study and the seeking

(01:46):
of many of us in raising consciousness. Being very much
raised in the first twenty years of my life, totally
drenched and what I would consider Earth spirituality, Indigenous spirituality,
or all the many names that other people come up
with it being raised by a Cherokee elder and teacher

(02:07):
of spiritual value as well as a healer. In those
twenty years, I saw the world from a much different
place than I feel mass society does, and always the
base of that teaching was that the heart was the
seat of the soul, the heart was where everything existed.

(02:27):
It actually prompted me to do brain research once I
actually had to put my grandmother to rest and move
on into the mass world on my own. I wanted
to understand how people think as as well as understand
how the brain differs, if any, from the heart, only

(02:49):
to find that almost fifty something years later, there's still
no real answers, and that those answers are that we
are continuing to unfold what the mind can do, which
is extraordinary, no question about it. And that the body,
the whole body, is the intelligence of which we work from,

(03:10):
and that every part of our body is attached to
a particular brain center or a gathering of the particular
information that we experience, whether it be in the non
local world or in the physical world. And so that
when we got into seeing what heart Math's particular research

(03:31):
started to reveal, it affected every person that was teaching
anything to do with consciousness and the elevation of personal awareness.
And that as we learn more of what we are
we understand to say that we are just human doesn't
fit it anymore. Just to be human is something we

(03:54):
need to say is extremely an experience and a gift
of life that cannot be taken easily or brushed off
as something lightly. Life in itself is a tremendous gift
and it has a extreme purpose everybody's life, So that

(04:15):
as we move into a world that is actually going
through a lot of troubled energy and upheavals and involvement
and so forth, and not we want to look deep
in ourself for the answers, not in social media or
from some other source, but from within ourself. What are
we going? What's happening within us? Because each one of

(04:36):
us is a coded individual vibration, meaning not any one
of us is the same. Out of the trillions of
beings on this planet, none of us are experiencing the
same thing. I don't know how you relate to that,
but when I say that, there is a deep echo

(04:58):
that comes about in me that understands at some level
of what that means. But putting it into words or
running it through what mind can do, just us and
get it. But that each one of us, every life form,
is communicating back to its source the experience of what

(05:20):
it is having as far as the physical world experience,
and that when you total it up, that that is
the main purpose, reason and rhyme of being here. And
then we begin to see how emotions and thoughts and
how the brain works, and how fixation of any of

(05:42):
the neural net or even the hardwiredness of our neural
net and how hard we work at trying to transform
and change and reprogram and so forth and on. Then
we have this wonderful, clear, fresh breath called heartmath that
steps into it and simply says not to worry about

(06:03):
any of that, because it's all in the heart. And
when we begin to work with that. It always fascinated
me that as I was studying in more in depth
in brain research, that I kept coming back and finding,
I mean, they presented it to themselves. I never had
to really ever key in to research the heart, But

(06:26):
as soon as we got into studying and exploring neurons
the heart, every time I would go in to do research,
I would be guided to something that was actually printed
or stated about what the heart's function was. And so,
of course, being where I was at in the end
between worlds of that, I pursued that, and then I

(06:48):
would bring that to the attention to the researchers and
the scientists I was working with, always being poof poofed
or looked at like I was the second grade level
of whatever undertaking we would do it, and so never
really got the attention in the beginning. But as time
has gone on. Many of those professors and scientists have

(07:10):
come back and have met in many occasions where they'll
walk up to me, smile and say, you know, you
were onto something, or sometimes they even notably say you
were right. So it is through the heart that we
want to explore our very existence. And then you may say, well,

(07:31):
how do you do that? I can you know kind
of understand, Well, I got a brain and it functions
like this, this and this, But then how do we
take that to the heart when all we know of
the heart is that it beats and pulsates and circulates
blood and life through us. It thinks, it responds. What

(07:54):
do I mean by that? It talks, it communicates, it responds.
All you ever have to do is talk to what
I would consider an intelligent cardiologist and listen to their
stories of how they see what they do in the
field of medicine. They're practicing. They very much understand that

(08:19):
there is a communication that the body and the heart
go through, and they actually explore that in their own
research and way of doing medicine. So it's not everybody.
I'm not saying that any cardiologists you'll go see you
could actually start this conversation, not saying that at all,
but I am saying there are those gifted ones who

(08:40):
have come to understand that there are as many important
neurons in the heart as there are in the brain,
and it is the neurons that actually measure and affect
the communication. So I'm going to let us begin today
and let our co hosts begin to share what we've
got here in the first chapter. We will do this

(09:00):
whole book. Now. I know as I'm saying that, I'm
remembering that many of you want us to not linger
a long time in any one book. So if you
actually have gotten this book, you'll see that it's probably
about a little over an inch thick, very small print,
which means there's a lot of material. Okay, So we

(09:22):
will do our best, because even going back over chapter one,
there's so much in depth stuff in it. Okay, to
actually say we can come to you and cover four
or five chapters on a show, I haven't seen the
reality of that yet. I won't say I won't pursue it,
but beloved is to give you the value of the book,

(09:42):
we may have to take a little longer with that, Okay,
So again we're just bulling through and making sure we
get off on the right start here in chapter one,
and then like I said, in doing that, I would
like to make sure that we cover some of the
more important parts of it. So some of the questions
I've asked of the co hosts to actually help bring

(10:05):
you more information on is how much is the heart
pumping through the body, meaning there is a tremendous amount
of physical activity that the heart is actually controlling on
any given circumstances, I mean huge amounts of bug flow.
And how much what happens within a twenty four hour

(10:26):
period of the body. Okay, so we'll be discussing that.
And what else does it does it do to maintain life?
What else does the heart do in actually maintaining life,
not only on its physical obviously its physical production and activity,
but in its now in the realization of its intelligence? Okay?

(10:47):
What else does it do to maintain life? Okay? And
then one of the other questions would be what does
the Kabbalah and other spiritual consciousness groups or studies say
relate to the heart, Because there are so many studies
now that we're looking at that we may actually see
as religions. If it is your religion. We have no

(11:11):
problem with that. But what we're looking for is the
more general activity and description of exactly how does it
come in to the extension and the elevation of consciousness.
And when I say that, I say, okay, right now
you realize that we are on well over the brink

(11:32):
and into the midway point of what consciousness is and
how fast we are coming to understand consciousness at a
much much higher level than even fifteen years ago. Okay,
so we're looking at that. And then the other one
is what natural medicines say about the heart as a healer? Okay,

(11:52):
how does the heart work? With a lot of the
plant people and a lot of the organic mass that
comes in what we're the heart has to actually take
whatever the distilled level. What I mean by that is
once we it runs through all of the systems and
is actually deposited into the blood and then the heart

(12:14):
has to handle it from there. What what kind of
if there is any thought you have, what kind of
natural medicines are actually said to be working with the heart.
Then at this point and the other one is how
does the heart intail work? How does the heart intelligence work?
What is the mechanics of that. And on the other hand,

(12:37):
how do we use it? How can we use it? Okay?
And how would one actually work at cultivating actually the
heart intail? How do we cultivate how do we practice well,
what kind of what kind of activity do we do
to actually work and cultivate that intelligence. So I'm gonna

(13:00):
the co hosts come in now and we'll start with you. Trina.
Trina in Denver, Colorado.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, Hi, this is an interesting book, and it's not
the first time I've read it, but it's exciting because
it was years ago and going back through it again,
I'm seeing it from a different perspective. So this is
about heart intelligence, and I looked up the word intelligence
and intelligence is the ability to learn, understand, and deal

(13:30):
with new or challenging situations.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Well, when you.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Think about the way the heart reacts to things, it'll
speed up, it'll slow down, it pumps the blood, and
it sends messages to the brain and too the body.
There's an intelligence there that the heart picks up on
things that the brain doesn't necessarily pick up on. And

(13:56):
this comes from emotions and into and a lot of
other things that this book will share. One of the
things that I found is that so many people when
they refer to things, they refer to it coming from
the heart, and they instinctively go to the heart instead

(14:19):
of the brain to get information. And that's the perspective
that heart math has taken, is they've been looking at this,
is that there is an intelligence in the heart. We
do get information from the heart, Like how many times
has you know, have you actually felt like I should

(14:39):
do this? But then your brain jumps in and says no,
maybe not, gives you all the reasons not to, or
maybe you'll get this feeling that says don't do it,
but then the brain will jump in again and give
you all the reasons why maybe you should. And a
lot of times in either one of those situations, things
just don't really necessarily turn out for the best because

(15:00):
the heart has that first instinct to move forward with things.
So the scientists originally thought that the heart was just
a pumping mechanism and it sent them sent things through
the blood. But they are now finding that the heart
is capable of giving us messages far more than we
ever expected, that it's intelligent and powerful, and that learning

(15:26):
how to work with the messages of the heart can
actually help humanity as it grows and expands and moves
through the future. So new discoveries are now showing us
that the heart can lead us much better than the
head in so many and so many instincts because of

(15:50):
the instincts that we have, there's an awareness there. And
getting into a little bit about what some of these
spiritual traditions have said about the heart. Almost all of them,
whether it's Native, indigenous, whether it's Eastern or Western, you'll

(16:13):
hear them in their texts say things and talk about
how important it is in the heart. One of the
questions was about Kabbala, and one of the actual sepharos
or energy centers in the tree of life in Kabbala
actually is a heart center. It actually is the place

(16:38):
of emotion. It's called Tifaret, and it has to do
with the balance and it has to do with the
emotion and the heart that's that's within everyone. So the
Chinese also when they talk about the heart, when they
when they talk about thought or mind, so many different
words actually have the symbol for heart in the middle

(17:00):
of them. So these are things that are important. This
is something, this wisdom has been there forever for humanity
and it's instinctual, but we're now catching up with science.
We're now looking at it from a scientific perspective and
understanding how much the heart signals to the brain to

(17:23):
put out the different peptides and the chemicals that are needed,
and how the heart rate determines and is so important
for people, that the variability with the heart rate is
so important in showing how healthy you are, and that
that heart is made to regulate. The heart does respond
and goes faster or slower depending upon what intelligence it's

(17:48):
picking up. So that's just a few of the things
I wanted to share today, and there's so much more
I'm sure that the other co hosts are going to
touch on. There's just one thing that says, this is
a form of intelligence that's experienced as direct intuitive knowing
that manifests in thoughts and emotions that are beneficial for

(18:09):
ourselves and others. And with that, I'll close my little portion.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Very very good, okay. And one of the things that
has come of this is early on I used one
of Edgar Casey's particular teachings to actually be what I
would consider the encouragement to continue to follow my own heart,
so to say, in these studies when he actually said

(18:37):
that in our day and time, from one drop of blood,
we would be able to distinguish the total life of
any individual one single drop of blood. So we've all
come to understand how important a blood test is, and
immediately in any situation how they begin to draw blood
and study it. So actually in in that itself we

(19:01):
can see how blood then communicates. So therefore there is
an intelligence that's represented there. All right, we're going to
go with Mari Anne in Melbourne, Australia. Mary Anne, you there.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
I am here and excited to be talking about the heart.
It's so fascinating in this when we think about, like,
you know, how what does it do to maintain life?
And it's actually a huge electromagnetic field, and it's a
bigger field than the brain, so it's actually sending communication

(19:35):
all the time around the body, whether through hormones or
through electrical impulses or the field it produces. So it's
actually used to entrain the brain. So if you feel,
you know that we're quite hardwired in various areas of
our life. The heart intelligence is actually the tool that
we can use to shift those neurons because it has

(19:58):
a bigger field than the brain and has more influence
in that way as long as we tune into it
and use it and utilize it in the way that
it can be used. And it isn't rocket science in
as much as you know, every religion I have I
can think of, has been talking about the heart as
the seed of consciousness, as the point, as the center,

(20:22):
you know, the seed of the soul, like we use
so much language around the heart. Actually when we think
about our spirituality, I think, for me, it's just about
how do you enliven that and make that louder and
more conscious? Somewhat are the tools that we can use
to actually value the heart's influence and the hearts knowing
and knowledge that we can use it to guide our life,

(20:46):
and that it's actually internal to us, not an external god,
in internal knowing.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
That each of us have access to.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
And that's the power of reading this, you know, really
learning about the heart is that we tap into the
tool we've got within our own body to become an
experienced life in a magnificent way. And there's clearly so
many herbs that work with the heart. Until you ask
the question, I didn't actually know the degree of the
amount of herbs. But you know, just things like garlic

(21:17):
can help reduce the cholesterol and blood pressure and tumor.
It's really good for the inflammation and antioxidant properties to
protect the heart. Ginger helps with the circulation around the heart.
Hibiscus helps with blood pressure. Mother ward helps as well
with heart buli putations and stress. And so we can

(21:39):
use these herbs to really help us navigate the hormones
produced in the heart, which therefore reduces our overall body
stress levels, gets everything pumping, the oxygen levels pumping around
and makes us feel more coherent.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
And so.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
It's not difficult in a way to eat use the
heart intelligence.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
We have to stop.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
And some of the methods they're giving in this resource
and the research they've done, it's fabulous.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
You know, I've tried them.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
They're really good. Just dropping tools for dropping into the
heart and listening to the heart, and that's through breath.
We'll go through the tools in this book, you know,
as we go through the book, but it can be
definitely used as a way to improve our decision making,
to help reduce stress levels, to help improve experiences of

(22:32):
appreciation and gratitude and love. It's the source of those
hormones and helps us live fully on the planet.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
That connection to our heart very very good. Thank you
very much, and I hope our listeners was making some
notes of the suggestions you made and shared there. That's great.
So we'll move over to Evelyn. Evelyn, Miami, Florida. How's
the temperature down there, how you're doing, and what can
you share with us.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
We're having some very wet days as we are in
of course our hurricane season every year, and this is
our wet season. But it's beautiful. It's beautiful see everything
grow with all the water, and just as the rain
comes down, we also have water from the heart when
we speak about our emotions, which is beautiful. Also, as

(23:23):
Marianne was saying, that there is so much language and
words always used around the heart, yet I feel that
we really do not understand the workings of the heart.
And that's something that I'm seeing with this book, that
it's doing such a great job of teaching us and
showing another aspect of what our heart really does for

(23:44):
us and how much of it it controls and it
just speaks to the rest of the body. I think
I find that so amazing and part of what really
spoke to me this chapter was cultivating the heart intelligence.
Knowing that cultivating the heart intelligence, we start understanding our emotions.

(24:06):
And the more we start understanding our emotions and knowing
that they're just chemists and chemicals running through our bodies,
we're able to have more of what they call emotional management.
And once we do that and we understand how positive
emotions increase our energies and the negative ones decrease it,
we have such a better clarity and coherence in our

(24:31):
lives and we're able to have that clear communication from
our heart to our brain. And I feel that that
is like some of the best are you know what
they're trying to teach us here. Once we have that
heart mind connection, we come into a different aspect of ourselves.

(24:53):
I know that for myself, as I've worked more with
my emotions and understanding them and and understanding that that
it's just chemicals, that it's not something that controls me
except that I have the control over it, it has
brought more of all that coherence and then intelligence. And
I've actually have seen proof through the blood through my

(25:16):
medical exams. How where I was having high blood pressure before,
now it's controlled. When I was having the brain fogs
and my wasn't having clear mind. Now I have more
mental clarity. So knowing that all this comes from the
heart to me is amazing. Every time we read one

(25:37):
of these books that speak more and more to us
about our bodies, I just get an awe of knowing
what a perfect mechanism the human body is, and I
think it makes it so much more exciting to know
about being human and to know what's all that's happening

(25:58):
within us. So that's a big part of this chapter
that really spoke, and in talking about how the hard
intelligence works, they actually give us ten techniques that they
actually work with to bring about all this change in us.

(26:20):
Just very quickly, I'll go down just what they're calling it.
The first one is to acknowledge your heart intelligent and
know the importance of using it to make choices, whether
they're big or small ones. The second one, of course,
that we all know we need to reduce stress. That's
very important. We live in a very stressful world at
this time. Then the number third, The third one is

(26:43):
that they learn and you apply free sprame, which is
one of their techniques that you could actually use at
any given moment. Like if you're in the middle of
a very stressful situation, you just freeze frame and they
will go through this more another chapters. The fourth part
that they talk about is to accumulate energy assets and

(27:05):
decrease energy deficient the deficits, and that's basically knowing what
emotions the positive emotions increases your energies and the negative
emotions decreases. That fifth one is to activate your core
heart feelings. So the more we're into love and we're

(27:27):
compassionate and we're non judgment the more we're activating those
core heart feelings. The sixth one, of course, is to
manage your emotions. Like I said earlier, it's important to
start learning how to manage those emotions. Seven is care,
but also we could fall very easily into overcaring. Caring

(27:49):
is important, but when it becomes stressful or becomes too much,
then that turns into more of the negative realm than
in the positive, or more of a of a decrease
instead of an increase. The number eight they say they
learn and apply the cut through, which is another one
of their techniques. And what basically cut through is to

(28:12):
stop the energy deficits. So once you do the free stream,
which stops it. There's still stuff that is still lingering,
and they're so cut through helps you get rid of that.
And again they'll go more into depth later on. And
then number nine is do the heart lock ins, which
it just helps us to regenerate our system physically, mentally

(28:35):
and emotional. So those three techniques are their core techniques
that work hand in hand with each other. And then
number ten is to actualize what you know. So the
number ten they're just telling us that we have to
do the doing, not just annoying. So I've that's what
I got so much on this on this first chapter.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Great, really really good. Thank you very much. Okay, let's
move over there to Sydney and that would be alloi.
So ELOI, what do you have dad to that.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Apart from all those wonderful things we've just heard, and
we often say that, well, the heart is not a pump.
I would like to just say, even as a pump,
how amazing it is. So the heart itself pumps two
gallons of blood a minute, and that's the same as
seven point five liters per minute. It beats one hundred
thousand times a day, forty million times a year, and

(29:32):
over an average sort of eighty year life span. That's
three billion times it beats, and doing that, it pumps
blood through a vascular system which is sixty miles long
within our body or ninety five and a half kilometers.
That's two times the circumference of the Earth. So in
your opening how you said today that being human itself

(29:56):
is an absolutely amazing gift. So I just wanted to
share that little bit about the physical component of the
heart and the vascular system that it goes with. Then
to add to that, the heart does not need the
brain to pump. Its regulation is within itself. And for

(30:18):
those who've seen heart transplants and things like that, the
heart is beating when it is outside of the body.
It can do that. So there is an acknowledgment then
that this heart is not something that's controlled by a brain.
So we've covered the physiological part. However, there is so

(30:38):
much more. So the brain and the heart are in
two way communications. But what they used to think was
the brain was talking to the heart. But so much
of what's been found in the science and already acknowledged
through so many original cultures and traditions, is that the
heart is actually communicating to the brain, so much of
the time, not only that heart is a brain, the

(31:01):
heart has a brain. There are forty thousand neurons alone,
and neuron is what we would usually associate with a
brain or a thinking celler transmitting of information cell forty
thousand neurons within the heart, and they've actually called this
a little heart of its own. Also that the heart
produces hormones, so these things that we thought well other

(31:21):
responsibilities of other organs happen within the heart. So with
the heart being able to have this two way communication,
they've looked at where does it talk, like, what does
it talk to in the brain, And it talks to
all of almost all of the centers. In particularly it
talks to areas such as the amygdala, which if you

(31:42):
know the amygdala or not, it's that part that really
has the emotional part of things. Once the amig deala
is stimulated, then it then sends information to other organs
in the body that then produce more hormones. So again
we see that the heart is then able to do
that communication. Their heart is communicating in four main pathways

(32:04):
to the brain. The first is neurological, which is that
way that we just mentioned that the actually transmitting of
information through nerve signals. Then there's biochemical. As I mentioned,
the heart itself produces hormones and what we call neurotransmitters.
That's information that passes along and through the neural system. Biophysical,

(32:26):
so just the heart pumping that is creating pressure waves,
and they have looked at those pressure waves, whether the
heart's going fast or slow, those pressure waves as well,
because as soon as the heart changes and the pressure changes,
that's then felt throughout the whole of the body system.
That also changes and influences and communicates. And the last

(32:48):
one is by the electromagnetic field. And as it's shown,
the heart itself has an electromagnetic field that it's five
times five thousand times more than the brain. So we
really are then linking into what so many traditional people's
have said. And I know Trina has mentioned the Kabbala,
and others have mentioned the Chinese. But there's Yogi, there's

(33:13):
I know from Australian Aboriginal people. There's everywhere in the world,
and the ancient teachings, whether it be Egyptian or Sumerian,
there's a reference to the heart, whether it be the
seed of the soul or the base the main that
everything springs from, and then our own languaging, you know,

(33:36):
put your heart into it or being disheartened. So that's
all in there, and when we see that what the
heart can do when we shift attention to the heart
and change our breath. And here's an interesting thing, knowing
that our breath is one of those parts of our
body that all of the automatic things that we think

(33:56):
are automatic, like the heart, digestion, breathing, when you're not
thinking about breathing, you're still breathing. Yet it's one of
the things that we can override the automatic and consciously breathe.
And that's a big part of what they're showing us
in the heart math processes. It's about having that awareness
at the heart and breathing through the heart. So here's

(34:20):
our entry point through breath with heart that we're moving
from an automatic being to a conscious being. So that's
just an interesting one. Just that physicality that the muscles
around our rib cage, we are able to control those,
hence we control the breath. So all of this is

(34:42):
the practices that shift heart rhythms into what they call
coherence is really what allows us to live happily in
a chaotic world. It's not saying it solves it. It's
saying it gives you the resilience. And one of those
there's so much, but one of the dress very quickly.
One of the as also that comes from the heart.

(35:03):
The base molecule is used to either produce cortisols, which
are stresses. That same molecule is used to make a
molecule that goes through the body that results in increased youthfulness,
in restoration of organs, in changing the immune the immune system.

(35:29):
There's boosting an immune system, and also for the nervous system.
It shows that the pathways most use them move into
those that are more restorative and away from the flight
or fight. And that all comes from the heart.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yes it does. And that's very thorough, very appreciated, especially
all of the details. That's really good. Again, I hope
that our listeners realize this is a book you'll want
to come with your patent paper if you don't have
the book, to definitely take down some notes. I'd like
to share something that would come to mind as you
were actually sharing all of that lay and I remembering

(36:08):
back to working with grandmother amongst our people, is when
women would come forward to her acknowledging that they felt
that they were pregnant. That means they had missed maybe
a psychole or two and had actually that She would
always listen. She would put her head in her ear
to their stomach and she would listen. And as I

(36:33):
would watch her, I began to understand that she was
listening for a heartbeat. So, in the early stages of
the pregnancy, there were no heartbeats, and it was at
the exact moment that she acknowledged that the heart was beating.
And what was amazing to me is that she knew

(36:55):
when the heart would start beating. She would actually summons
me to seek the women and have them come. And
it wasn't just the woman. I did use the word women.
She would ask me to gather the women, and so
the pregnant woman would come with me, and there would
be the gathering of our mothers, our sisters and aunts

(37:18):
and so on, and then she would listen, and she
would have us all be still for a while, okay,
And then she would actually continue to listen to the stomach.
So she would ask us to use our spirit eyes.
It's what she would call them. Use your spirit eyes,

(37:38):
look through your heart, and you will recognize this one
as they come in. And it was at that point
in time in our life, in the way we lived,
that we welcomed the new one, not just when they
come out of the wound, but when they entered the heart.

(37:59):
And so she would wait and sometimes it would be
right away, other it was just different times, because at
whatever time it was, it's just that she would be
given notice and prepared that the heart was going to start,
meaning that the soul or the spirit or the entity
had now become part of the creative process of another being.

(38:24):
And so when that heart started, she would actually beat.
She had a little drum on the side of her
as she sat there, and as soon as that heart
started beating, she would beat the drum. And I would
notice that how in the beginning, how very irregular the
beats were. They were like random Some some would come

(38:45):
very fast, and then they would slow down, and they
were all over the place, the patterns, and that she
would keep beating that until it had a rhythm, till
it finally found its rhythm, and then at that point
she would use the word to us to celebrate, meaning
life has now presented itself. There is a new one

(39:06):
with us, the new one has come. There would be
all kinds of ways that that would be expressed, but
the mother at that point was totally aware. She had
become aware herself that now she was definitely feeling the
heartbeat of the child. And it was a very intimate
moment that after the recognition of that. And yes, for

(39:28):
some of you who would say, well, was the father
not included, Yes, the father was always invited. But it
was at that moment that the mother would go forth
to all of us. There would be the coming together
a catua of all the people, and she would announce
that her child now has its heart and has now

(39:48):
become part of us, will be part of our world
and part of our family. And the celebration of the
new coming life started right then. And every day of
that pregnancy that mother was spoke to. People would touch
her stomach and talk to the baby, people would feel

(40:11):
the baby, saying things to it. There was all kinds
of what I would consider cognitive reality of the presence
of a new being. And though therefore when this child
is born, there is a knowing of this child, there
is an acceptance of now you are in the world.

(40:32):
But at the birth of that child, there was the
acceptance that now they have entered the actual field of death,
that at this moment that birth is recognized as the
beginning of their death. It's all part of the circle
of understanding the actual temporary ness of life, but the

(40:54):
glory of the coming to that experience. And then over
those days there would be stories and teachings that at
the time you don't really know their teachings because they're
just wonderful entertainment and stories, but there are teachings of
what life comes to be and how we fit into
it and everything. And always the elder puts her hand

(41:18):
to the stomach of the expecting mothers and talks to
the unborn of what world, what kind of world they're
coming into. So we are prepared while we're still within
the mother's will, to come into a world of where
we will begin to expend life, meaning every breath is
actually a coming and accounting a way of what will be.

(41:40):
So it to me what I see in heart math
just brings so much truth and science to what would
be normally considered superstitions or just a mythical practice amongst
people of natural teachings and traditions, so well the starting

(42:01):
of the heartbeat actually become so intriguing to me in
the brain study of the brains, because life, as far
as the new forming body of an entity, has not
had any purpose, nor is it claimed, nor is it claimed.
Did you hear what I said? Neither has it been

(42:23):
taken charge of by any particular intelligence or being or
consciousness until that heart starts to beat. And no matter
how skilled our medicines are and how far technology has come,
they cannot predict the exact moment that the baby's heart

(42:43):
will start. They are never the same. There is no
particular state that the mother is in in the development
of the baby that they can say it's at this
point the heart starts. They can't do that yet. So
when we want to question ourselves and think of ourselves
as less than anything other than just outrageously magnificent, how

(43:09):
can you answer and have any doubt or criticism or
disbelief in how and what you are when all of
that is in consideration of it? And like I said,
in understanding that while we're sitting here just doing whatever
it is you're doing, just think of all the activity

(43:29):
l Away just shared with us. What about the activities
of the fact that the heart is worken and covers
the distance of twice the perimeter of the earth. I mean,
you're just sitting here. Are you aware that that's going on?
Are you aware that that is actually active and alive,

(43:50):
and that's you, that's not me, that's not everybody else
around you. That's going on right now with each one
of us. See, those are the things I think about
when people ask me how it is that I see things,
feel things, or sometimes the things I say is because
see I see that, I understand that I marvel at

(44:13):
that I cannot take one breath for granted, let alone
a heartbeat, And because I take it so all awesome
and so magnificent and powerful, it makes life worth it,
every minute of it. So I'm so happy that you
shared all of that lay and I'm definitely happy you

(44:38):
stimulated that memory and I could share that involvement that
each one of us have come to the body by
choice and invitation, and now here we sit today as
to whoever and whatever we have made of that wonderful Okay, Gabby,
you want to kind of sum up what you can
of whatever our co hosts have shared and kind of

(45:01):
give us a summary of what we have covered on
our show today.

Speaker 7 (45:05):
Yes, sure, like you just said, Aloway so beautifully described
what the heart is doing. You know, it pumes blood,
and you know the wonder of two gallons or seven
and a half liters in metric a minute, one hundred
thousand times beating a day, just to sit with that,

(45:26):
it's just marvelous.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
And that alone.

Speaker 7 (45:28):
It affects every function in the body, produces hormones, affects
of blood pressure, has an electromagnetic field. The heart is
often what was shared is the heart is often noticed
in other spiritual consciousness groups, as manuscriptures speak of the
heart and the importance of the heart. The heart is

(45:50):
the tree, the center of the tree of life that
is described in the Kabbalah and many Chinese symbols. So
we heard have the heart in the middle of them,
and that the heart is seen as the seed of
the consciousness. Natural medicines and the heart. Many herbal medicines

(46:10):
are out there that improve our heart. Heelds such as garlic,
turmoric for information ginger and ginger for example, can reduce
the stress on the heart, and reducing the stress on
the heart produces the stress overall. Because the heart affects
every cell of our body. Now we talked about heart intelligence.

(46:33):
Heart intelligence, like intelligence in general, is the ability to
learn and understand situations, and the heart gives us insights
into solutions through intuition. It is not just using our
logic and our rational brain, but through intuition it gives
us messages all the time, and our heart rate changes

(46:54):
depending on what we think and feel and do. The
Heart Math Institute gives us some ideas on how to
make the intelligence work through reducing stress using what they
call some techniques. One of them is a freeze frame
where we breathe through our heart and where we manage
to work our energy efficiently. That means, you know, not

(47:18):
over caring for others and being in tune, being coherent.
How do we cultivate the hard intelligence? We reduce stress,
improve gratitude, bring in love, non judgment, positive emotions versus
negative ones, and breathing. Learning to breathe especially through the
heart and learn to understand our emotions, which is emotional intelligence.

(47:42):
We will learn many tools throughout the book that is
still to come, and what we want to achieve is coherence,
you know, mental clarity and use our energy wisely. We
often refer to the heart when we're speaking, and we
sense that the heart is the seat of the soul.

(48:03):
And there's so much more to being human when we
look at our purpose and all that leads to the heart.
So we really need to look deep for answers inside
and realize we are all individuals. None of us experience
the same thing. It is through the heart that we
bring ourselves into the world. And just to finish off

(48:24):
with your words, grandmother, I nighted them down verbatim. We
are outrageously magnificent. Our heart performs all these functions right now,
and not take one breath for granted, let alone a heartbeat.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, beautiful, beautiful. And we hope that
in you're listening that you begin to sit with yourself
and actually see and try at least doing the heart breads.
Just remember that as you focus on the breathing, you
actually focus that it's coming through the heart. Just bring
the imaginald into it, imagine that the heart is breathing

(49:03):
with you, and in the instance of that, actually learn
the heartbeat, the drum beat, the actual coherence of what
you actually have with the planet herself. So simply find
your pulse in your palm or in your wrist and
actually see what your beat and rhythm is and allow

(49:27):
yourself to find peace and deep coherence of all that
you are in the great creation of a life. So
we will catch you next week. We will be sharing
chapter two at least maybe possibility of three if we
can squeeze all that in for you in one show. Meanwhile,
please get the book. It is worth the time to

(49:49):
read it, just to discover yourself and understand the magnificence
of what it is to be a physical a physical life. Okay,
and that would be heart math solution. Okay, and that's
with Doc Child and Howard Martin and also with Donna
Beach doing the authoring of it. Meanwhile, you have a
full week and a happy week, and may your heart

(50:12):
be fulfilled O see open.

Speaker 8 (50:13):
Thank you for listening to Quantum Lead Book Club. For
more information where you can contact us, go to lay
Radio Network dot com, Forward Slash, Quantum hyphen Leap. Have
a great week.
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