September 27, 2025 • 52 mins
John Novello, a jazz philosopher and author of "The Invisible Architect," introduces his weekly
podcast focused on spiritual growth and personal transformation. He discusses his vision of
helping listeners raise their mindset frequency to achieve their highest divine selves and create
a world of abundance. John introduces his guest, Lisa Petrelli, a transformational leader with a
corporate background and author of "LifeQuest," a spiritual guidebook that channels divine
wisdom for personal and collective awakening. Lisa shares her excitement about being on the
podcast and expresses gratitude for the opportunity to discuss her work and John's vision.
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podcast focused on spiritual growth and personal transformation. He discusses his vision of
helping listeners raise their mindset frequency to achieve their highest divine selves and create
a world of abundance. John introduces his guest, Lisa Petrelli, a transformational leader with a
corporate background and author of "LifeQuest," a spiritual guidebook that channels divine
wisdom for personal and collective awakening. Lisa shares her excitement about being on the
podcast and expresses gratitude for the opportunity to discuss her work and John's vision.
https://www.loaradionetwork.com/johnnovello
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Law of Attraction Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome to manifesting your dreams. Join renowned Grammy Award winner,
jazz pianist and Amazon number one best selling author John Novello.
Each week as he uncovers the secrets of the Invisible Architect,
the quantum intelligent energy that permeates everything even us. Discover
how to tap into this inner power to use it
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to design the perfect life you deserve. The Invisible Architect
as Within So Without is your guide to achieving your
dream life. And now here's your host, the jazz philosopher
John Novello.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hi, everybody, hope you're all doing good wherever you are.
This is John Novello, the Jazz Philosopher. Welcome to my
Invisible Architect As Within Without weekly radio podcast. I'm the
incredible Law of Attraction Radio Network, which I'm very excited
honored to be a part of. Now a little bit
of my background. The first part of this lifetime was
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inspiring others through my God given musical talent of composing
and performing. But I never figured in my twilight years
i'd be directly helping others as a personal and spiritual
servant of the creator who I have named The Invisible Architect,
and for the details of why and the story go
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to Amazon or my website which I'll give you later.
It became an Amazon number best a number one best
selling metaphysical book, and it's called The Invisible Architect How
to Design Your Perfect Life from Within, so you get
all the details in that book. My vision this lifetime
that I've discovered and am working on diligently is to
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significantly transform the quality of your life by raising your
mindset frequency towards the Invisible Architect God frequency your true
inner power, and as well help you understand this spiritual
mechanics of interaction with this power so you can achieve
your highest divine self and help serve the collective of humanity.
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So my personal desires to play a significant role in
creating a world in which true wealth, spiritual, material, intellectual
flows too through and from every person in an ever expanding,
never ending cycle of abundance. That said, welcome back to
all listeners and especially a big welcome to all new
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listeners on the as Within Without podcast, which is all
about how to discover your inner world and have your
inner world, along with your connection to the Creator, help
create your outer world. So for more on this, you
can go to my mentor site, which we'll talk about later. Now,
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each week, I'm excited to feature interesting guests who've had
their own life changing experiences, and we'll then have the
courage to go after their inner world in dreams and
have a connection with the creator and have the discipline
to follow through with those dreams, which a lot of
people don't. I therefore consider it a stroke of serendipity
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that I met this next incredible guest on an iconic
worship workshop about marketing that specializes in helping icons develop
their inner world, and it's pretty amazing workshop. And so
I met her on this and she's a fantastic person,
and we've got similar goals and purposes, and she's a
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transformational leader with an unparalleled corporate legacy. Having led a
seven hundred and fifty million dollar business unit at Baxter Healthcare,
she went on to serve as chief relationship officer for
CEO Connection, chief marketing officer for a boutique spiritual services agency,
and founder and head of the Medline Institute offering executive
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education into healthcare leaders. She's author also author of The
Introverts Guide to Success in business and leadership, co author
of The Character Based Leader, and has been featured in
New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Inc. Magazine, among others.
Her new book, Life Request, which has just in fact,
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I'm not even sure if you've released it yet. We'll
talk about that, but it's called Life Quest, is a
groundbreaking spiritual guidebook that channels divine wisdom for personal and
collective awakening through an extraordinary encounter with Jesus. Lisa offers
a revolutionary path to understanding your soul's sacred mission, overcoming
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inner barriers, and stepping into your sacred power, and becoming
an agent of global upliftment and transformation. Wow, we're such
on an incredible path, It's amazing. So please yeah, I'm
pleased excited to welcome to my podcast, Lisa Petrelli. Lisa, welcome,
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and thanks for sharing your story and valuable work that
you're doing.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Oh absolutely, John, thank you so much for the invitation.
I am absolutely delighted to be here. It was wonderful,
absolutely serendipity that we met earlier this summer, and just
so happy to be here and to learn more about
your vision and share a little bit more about mine.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Fantastic So how about telling our listeners a little bit
this lifetime on how you came to get on this
particular path, because it's interesting that not too many people
kind of have this administrative business background and then get
into what you got into and now and the same
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thing with me. I actually have a master's in mathematics
and then I'm a jazz musician. But here I am
doing this spiritual stuff that I never thought i'd be doing.
So I'm very curious about your story.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Absolutely. I mean, when we get we get called, and
as far as I know, you're right, I run into
very few people who have become real spiritual leaders in
a sense, you know, really trying to help other people
who have that corporate background. But for me, I had
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an unexpected what I call my Joan of Arc moment
back in twenty twelve. And I call it a Joan
of Arc moment because her first experience really awakening to
her own path was when she heard and saw Archangel Michael.
And that's what happened with me. I heard the voice
of Archangel Michael tell me that somebody who had been
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in a car accident, somebody close to me. I just
heard his voice come in and tell me that this
person had been protected and they were watching over him
completely out of the blue. I had never experienced anything
like that, but I knew without a doubt that's who
it was who was telling me this.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I jump in. Yeah, it's interesting because I had my
own experiences like that. How did this is for the listener?
How did you know the difference between your mind and
inner voice and thinking this compared to that it was
actually who you say it was, and it was an
outside spiritual experience, right, So.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
If people are watching this on video, I mean I
keep doing I do this a lot because it comes
in this I hear it coming from outside of me, yeah, versus.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Watching this on videos mostly audience.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay, So that's that's why I keep doing that, because
that's how it I hear it, and it's not my
inner voice. It sounds different. And ever since then, more
voices have come in and they each have a different
vibration and energy, and I'm at the place now where
I recognize that's the energy of for example, King David
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or Abraham, or Mary Mandolin or the Virgin Mary. I
know right away the sound of their voice, the energy
of their presence. So in some cases I see them,
and some I'm just hearing it. Particularly when I'm working
with clients, I'm just hearing. And when I connect, when
I do my own spiritual meditation and connect to all
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of them, typically I see them and they're showing me something,
some type of image. So that just started to happen
in twenty twelve and just sort of snowballed more and
more over the last thirteen years.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, it's funny because mine happened at three years old,
which is all experned in my book. Yeah, quick side.
I was sitting in the living room with my parents
watching a TV show and imagine, at three years old,
there's not much critical thinking going on, right, all of
a sudden, this voice came into my mind and it said,
point to the TV. And like a nice little three
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year old, I just kind of pointed to the TV.
Didn't even know why, right, Yeah, there was an accordion
player on TV in a big band, and it must
have been a past life situation where I saw the
keyboard or something, so I was told to do it.
My parents thought, oh, look at little Johnny. He wants
to play the accordion. And then later on I started
taking music lessons, so that was a blessed cosmic whisper
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absolutely for guidance to me, and it ended up sparking
and catalyzing my whole career. And then I've had that
hookup like you got in twenty twelve every since.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Right, Absolutely, that's beautiful, what a blessing?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Really continue your story.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So that happened, and I just started to do more study.
I went really deep with really trying to understand what
I was hearing. Who else hears these voices? But it
was something that I was doing on the site because
I was still corporate world, you know, executive coaching, doing
all kinds of things. I had two daughters that I
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was raising, and it wasn't really until COVID when everyone
had I had similar life experience of being at home
and really going within themselves that I did an enormous
amount of work to release the shadows, do the shadow
work that people talk about, release those shadows, open myself
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up as a channel, start connecting globally with other like
minded people. That's when I really came to understand that
there is a global tribe of people waking up.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's amazing, I think it is. I never thought about
it that way, but you're going.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And I wasn't running into those people in real life.
There was nobody around me that I felt comfortable talking
about this with. But suddenly, with COVID and being online,
you know, the energy of the magnetics of it all,
I started to attract those people into my LinkedIn and
stream and just started to reach.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Out to them.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
If somebody was writing about something that sounded soul level,
I would reach out to them and connect. And the
next thing I knew they were part of a group
in the UK, or in Europe or Australia, and it
was fascinating just to connect in that way. And it
actually led to a really incredible experience and journey that
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I took to Africa a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I didn't know that, yes, so on.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That trip, I know that I was experiencing some initiations
and starting to see my role laid out for me
because I was serving with other people around me as
the person really explaining things and stepping into my teacher
role in a much more powerful way and seeing that
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come in and knowing that that was going to be
in my future.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Wow, it's interesting that you've had sort of the same
moment of a little cosmic whisper to get you to
get into recognizing that transition in that old that probably
was prescripted so interesting, aren't they always? Yes, a lot
of people don't believe that. I can't talk to too many
people about that, but now I'm one hundred percent so
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that it's obviously it's just there, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Well, And I was even it's funny you say that,
because I was reminded of that yesterday. I journal every
day when I connect to my guides, and Jesus reminded
me of that yesterday that it's all enough for you.
It's just, you know, our biggest test sometimes is just
faith interesting that what they're going to lay out is
absolutely magical and beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So yeah, no, exactly. Well then did that? Is this
your first book? Life?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
So I actually wrote a business book back in twenty eleven,
back when e books were just coming out, they were
just becoming a thing. I had been co hosted leadership
chat with a mutual friend of ours and was blogging
a lot about introversion, and that led to an ebook
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that I wrote called The Introverts Guide to Success in
Business and Leadership. Very tangible, real world advice for introverts
in the business world to help them succeed because I
was running into so many introverts who were trying to
pretend they were extroverts, thinking that there was something wrong
with being an introvert in business, and I wanted so
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much for people to understand and embrace the superpowers associated
with being an introvert.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I thought of being an introvert in business because in
the world of artistic creation where I'm at in jazz,
introversion and introspection is a very important part of absolutely
helping your melody, as I call it, because you can't
really play at a very high frequency and high level
unless you have discovered in your inner world and raise
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your frequency and get to that creation part of it.
So that's a sense. But I never thought of the
administrators and business people. Why not, right, We're all human beings,
you know well.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And it's so interesting you say that, you know, connect
with that inner world but also be comfortable there. And
I think there's this culture in the artistic world that
it's okay to be comfortable there, whereas there's this for
whatever myth that in the business world you have to
be a certain way, you have to be an extrovert.
You have to be so social and outwardly focused and
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absolutely you know, if that is not something that is
within your comfort zone, you have to get out of
your comfort zone and get comfortable there for a portion
of your day, a portion of your week. You know,
that's part of your career, but it's not. There's nothing
wrong with being a lot more comfortable with the inner
life and tapping into those superpowers. Memorating the to your
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executive role because we need all we need people to
show up as all of who they are. And the
book you know, in this book, which yes came out
on Monday, it is Yeah, Jesus talked about that we
want you to show up as all of who you are.
You are blessed as a divine being with all kinds
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of gifts and talents. Please bring them all into your life.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, there's a took some notes when I was reading
your book, and there was a section in the book
where Jesus says, if I get this right and may
have parent, many are afraid to ask for my help
as you were. But look how your life expanded once
you let me in. Expanded on this, I think that's
an important thing for the listener.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So when I he was the first being that showed up,
when I was able to first make that real, solid
connection on my own, not just hearing something out of
the blue, but purposefully going in and seeking to connect
with the divine, and he walked. I saw him walking
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up a hill towards me, and he sat down as
if we were having a picnic, and I cried my
eyes out. In real life, I was sitting there crying
my eyes out because I could not fathom that Jesus
had time to show up on a hill and have
a picnic with me with everything else happening in the world,
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and I had to sit there and be with him
and feel that and hear him say I know. Helped
me see that I was worthy. That was such a
turning point in my life, because for me, worthiness is
that core wound we all have one. For me, it's
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been the sense of unworthiness that I've carried for no
good reason. But he helped me see how worthy I
truly was as I was with all of my flaws,
and just as I was, I was worthy. And that
allowed me then to open myself up to this spiritual
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experience and journey and to know that when he came in.
He was there for a reason, and also know particularly
be able to explain to my children that he's there
for them as well. They all are, and we simply
need to call them in and use our free will
to do that.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Exactly you just said the key to words. Yes, my
mentor spiritualship is I help people achieve eight milestones in
their life and wan them now. But one of them
is about since we have been given free will, he's
not Jesus is not going to bypass us, and therefore
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we have to invite him in our life. He's not
just going to go, Okay, you need help, I'll just
do one of my miracles there. Do you feel better.
We have to invite him into our life. And without
that that our free will. We can choose the darkness,
we can choose the lightness, We can choose whatever we
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want to choose. And I think that's an amazing gift
of love that Creator has given us. Loves us so
much that he gave us free will. Every time we
think about that, I just go, Wow, what a gift,
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And I hope very much that the book, which is
really a conversation between me and Jesus, most many of
my reflections as I'm having this conversation really emphasize that point.
You just starting to really connect with the power of
his message and the power he's saying that we have
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as individuals, and that's one of our powers is to
use our free will to ask for gude answer, ask
for them to be there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I think you say in your book it's not my wisdom,
is it his? It's his. Yeah. I think that's a
great part of that book. A lot of us since
I'm on this network, that's called law of attraction. It's
not my favorite phrase. I think it's better to say
law of reflection. Our inner world reflects our outer world.
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A lot of the problems I've had with the law
of attraction is becomes very narcissistic. I am wealthy and
I am this, and I so part of my book's title,
that's why it says the invisible Architect, which is God Jesus,
the Holy Ghost, how to design your perfect life from within?
Instead of III, It's like, no, we're the distributor of
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this wisdom, of this power. The real power as we
know is God Jesus. And so we recognize that surrendered
to that power, and we can then distribute it. I
really love when you said it's not my wisdom.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It is. Yeah, it's his right, absolutely. And when you
talk ABOUTI, that is our lower self, that's our ego self, right.
And so the work that I do with my clients,
and I don't know anybody else doing this, but I'm
laying up for them a map. Here's where you are now.
I use the ancient science of the rays, which I
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mentioned briefly in the book, to determine their sole blueprint.
And you know, here's the highest here's what your coding
is showing as your souls, where your soul wants to
be at its highest level. So that's our destination, and
here's the path to get there. And we are literally
going to walk the path until we get there, making
sure we cover everything along the way. And THATI ego
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place is the path of our lower self, and we
have to master our lower self and rise above that
to step onto that path of higher consciousness where we're
allowing ourselves to be so guided and then monad guided
or guided by the divine by God, stepping into our
god selves.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Really, yeah, exactly, I think you even say every moment
we have a choice to either express or I'm just
a paraphrase in here. Okay, let's express our lower self
and which really more like husurps or extracts love from
the world. Do our choice of expressing our higher self,
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which I think you refer to our better angels? Was
that your.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Jesus used that term to try to help people relate
to it. Some people use aware of the term. You know,
you're better angels. So it's that higher version of yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
When we express our higher self, we're adding love. Elaborate
on the difference between expressing lower self you just touched
on it a little bit moment ago, where we're extracting
love from the universe as compared to expressing our high yourself.
We're adding love, which is part of my mission to
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raise the planetary frequency one by one so we can
absolutely raise humanity. Express in your work.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
By that absolutely And actually that's that's my soul's mission
is to find those warrior leaders for planets, the true leaders,
not the ones with the titles or leading the countries,
but the true warrior leaders of Earth. And I've been
guided to find them and guide them to help uplift
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humanity by stepping into their own divine purpose and soul mission,
so elevating themselves so they can then elevate humanity, and
together we do no less than save the world, and
it takes all of us to it.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
So you're but you do work. You can work with
anybody to help them do that. But are you typically
focusing on trying to find those opinion leaders? As my phrase, No, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Not looking no leader in any type of anything, anyone
who sees themselves as a leader. And we're all called
to be leaders. That's part of it. It's part of
our test. Do we recognize do we open our eyes
enough to know we are all called to lead and
to be a leader in our own way? The ripple
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effect each of us has outward to all those around
us is massive, and when we step into our higher self,
we truly are leading the way. And so getting back
to your question, when you're in your lower self and
you're really egoically focused, it's all about what's best for me.
Right when we are able to elevate ourselves enough to
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get beyond that and want not only what's best for us,
but also in the highest good of everyone else as well,
So we're not going to make a decision that just
that's only good for me, it's going to be good
for all of us. That's the one we've gotten to
the place where we're finally stepping into our higher self
and we're able to now take those you know, there's
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the ancients looked at initiations, but essentially go to three
different levels to get to that highest place. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Neil Donald Walsh, the author of Conversations with God. I
interviewed him about four weeks ago. The new book is
called God Talk, which I love that word. He sent
me a copy and I read it and he talks
about how God is love and a lot of people
say that, but they don't really understand what people unconditional
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love is. And he said, I'll give you an example
of my life. He says, one day I was realizing
that I said a few things and mistreated my wife,
and this was just reasonably that he had this revelation
right well, and he goes, he goes, all of a sudden,
I realized that I wasn't operating at pure unconditional love.
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I had a little bit of what's good for me
still involved in my relationship. That it was a great
cognition that God gave me and here I am the
guy that wrote Conversations with God sold forty million books,
and I'm still learning. And I loved that he expressed
me that he was comfortable with expressing that to me.
And he said his realization was now he looks at
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his wife from that viewpoint of pure unconditional love, and
he's always even asking or hey, honey, what can I
do for you today? So he thought, yeah, he got
off of his egoic obligation and he goes and it
brought me to a new level. And I thought that
was a fantastic share that he did, because that's what
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you're talking about, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Well, and that's something I work on with my clients
because it's so interesting when you ask about unconditional love
and then they get to the place where they they
don't just mentally understand it. It's like physically it takes
over them when they go, oh, wow, no conditions. Unconditional
means I think, to really absorb that. Wow when you
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do the power of it and you realize what that
feels like to completely unconditionally love, not just from God,
but then to share that with others as as fellow humans.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yea, yeah. Deepak Chopra said about love, he said, it's
one thing to have somebody unconditionally love you and feel it,
and that's a great revelation. But to find somebody who
you can unconditionally love is the absolute treasure. And lost
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my second wife about four years ago, and you know,
a lot of spiritual growth has occurred because of that.
But I have never met anybody in my life who
would probably be the poster being for unconditional love. She
loved me more than myself, and I realized one day
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if I treated myself better and loved myself self love
like she loved me, I could rise to a higher state.
And that's one of the problems a musician and inner
world you have to be. So we talked about earlier
comfortable with yourself in order to express your melody as
an artist, and I always had part of my shadow
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was not enough, that soul of that song, that album
I wrote, It's just not there, it's not perfect enough,
it's not enough. And then one day after my wife passed,
one of the personal growth I experienced was that I
was told was John, you are enough and own my God.
When that happened, and that was that whole thing we're.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Discussing absolutely so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
So you ever read a book Celestine Prophecy by James Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
One of the things he talks about in there, which
is very congruing to what we're talking about, and the
whole purpose of his book, which is fictional about a character,
is that his quote is we have been disconnected from
the larger source of universal energy that sustains us and
responds to our expectations. And by that quote, he's actually saying,
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what's wrong with the world. We've been disconnected. There's a
separatism there. Because of that separatism, we're not one anymore.
We don't realize that we're not one with the Father,
like Jesus said, I and the Father are one. And
that was the purpose of all the insights of the book.
And that's pretty amazing. Expand on that from your viewpoint, well.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And that oneness. I'm really understanding that oneness. That's another
one of those concepts that when you actually get to
the place in your life when you step into it,
who is that a massive shift?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You know, the path. When we're on that path of
our lower self, we see other humans and we're like,
there's no way, I'm one with them, right, and we'll
finally understand when you get to that place when you
know we are all one, with all of our flaws
and all of the beauty of the infinite love within us,
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and our capacity to love at a much greater level
than maybe we even realize. That's when your life is
shifting and you're really stepping into be half of higher self.
So that essence of oneness is part of a path.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, that was my most I actually almost had a
heart attack when I had that revelation. Remember I lived
near a lake and I go out in the morning
to be part of nature and God before I start
my day. And I had that revelation the day before,
and then that day I was out walking around seeing
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people saying Hi and nature, and all of a sudden,
that oneness I felt with everybody and everything, and I
realized that Jesus and God permeates everybody and everything. So
many different people that I met, I kept thinking, you know,
they're just reflections of me, the reflections of God and
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I am. That separateness was gone from me, and it
was one of the ones At that point I could
have went all right, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Because you feel like you're you're so connected to Heaven,
and that's what God wants us to bring Heaven to Earth,
right to anchor it.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
That's what that our Father is, right they our father
who are by kingdom comes. I will be done as
Earth has.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
That's on Earth, as it is in heaven and in
the middle Us. But think about that experience, John, Now,
put yourself in a fortune five hundred company walking through
the halls. How early are you to feel that one list?
You know, it's it's not easy.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
And they're probably all in competition with themselves and each other.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And neigh brings so much, so much, hey jeez, word baggage.
But you know, all of that comes in, and so
you're not out in nature where all of the energy
is purifying. You know, you think about when you release
the shadows and you release the negative energy Mother Earth,
our world is able to transmute it, transmute that energy
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into something much more positive, to higher vibration. It's really
hard to do that in the halls of corporate America.
And so for all those people out there in those halls,
absolutely what you're faced with is something a lot more challenging.
And that's why doing this work is even more powerful
because you can rise above it.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Well, think about this, because one of my mentees is
a politician. Think of that world, that world as well
administrative business world. When I started working with him and
he's telling me how he's dragged this way and that way,
and the dishonesty and the darkness and the other agendas
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and everything that's going on. He's trying to, you know,
get into his personal integrity because he originally got in
it because he really had an altruism to help. But right,
if you can't be comfortable with your inner world or
you don't even know it, next thing you know, you're
down the dark side and you don't even know it.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Right, right, All the more reason this.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Is so we have to invade the political world too.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I'm in happy to join you and go in and
take our magic wands and just help people step into
that power. Because what you're talking about out is their
face with so much darkness that they lose their ability
to connect with their own internal power.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Absolutely. That brings me to another part of your book.
I remember little notes where you said abundance lives in
the heart, not the mind. Explain that to our listeners.
What you mean by abundance.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
So what he was saying, again, this is Jesus speaking
that abundance is not about money itself, and there's a
chapter on money and that flow of energy that abundance
is has to have love present to actually feel abundant.
So when we are expressing this feeling of I feel
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so much abundance in my life, typically what we're expressing
is just peace and joy and the exuberance and that
oneness that you expressed. When we're really in a state
of abundance, we're overflowing with this heart ergy versus you
can have a you know, a very large number in
(34:06):
your bank account, right, but the devoid of all of that.
So what he was trying to share was, you know
the you know the story in the Bible of the
woman with you know, her last penny. You know, she's
giving her money to the church. She's she's receiving from that.
There's abundance, and it doesn't correlate to the amount of
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money in your bank. Where your heart is your treasure
is right. So that is what abundance truly is.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Right is in the one proverb. But I'm looking at us,
I'm paying attention now so it's not looking like a district.
I listened to everything you said. I totally agree. I
was trying to look up the exact quote in a
Proverbs twenty three seven four. As he thinketh in his heart,
so is he because a lot of the law of
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attraction people, I am this, I am that, and even
Biblical there's another quote paraphrase for whatsoever you shall thinketh,
and then it says believing you have received, you shall receive.
That's one of the translations, not that you will, which
means it has to go from your mind to your heart.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
It's already there. You're already abundant exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
So part of my manifestation mentoring is getting people to
understand that B do have. It's not have to be,
which is, if I have this, I should be able
to do this and then create this. So I mentor
people the opposite. No, you have to be at that
frequency and have advanced gratitude. It's easy to have gratitude
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for something that has already happened, but to have advanced gratitude.
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Absolutely? Absolutely, yes, Yeah. The abundance is a knowing within
simply by being here. I really believe. What Jesus wanted
people to understand to a very significant degree is that
they are divine beings simply by the nature of being.
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We are all children of God. We are all the
reflection of God source Creator. Simply that alone. By really
understanding that and knowing it, not just believing it, but
knowing it, that's a different vibration changes everything. And that's
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where the abundance comes from. Is in that knowing. And
once you know, you truly know you're divine, you are
a reflection of God, then you know you're enough and
you're worthy, and all of those mounds that we talk about,
they're irrational once.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
You know, yes, yeah, because you even say so, I'll
ask you this question. Everybody have a divine mission. And
you discuss that in.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
The book, right right, yes.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Expand that because I know a lot of people that
don't think they're enough and they're just working nine to
five and their stroke, you know, paycheck paycheck. The last
thing on their mind thinking is that they're enough or
that they have a divine mission to speak to.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Those right right, everyone, we all come in coded, we're
all divine, so we all come in. And what I
look at when I'm looking with my clients at their
soul's divine purpose and mission. I'm looking at their sole blueprint,
and I'm looking specifically. I'm using ancient science of the rays.
The rays are fractals of light, a fractal being a
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reflection of the whole. So this fractal is of light
is reflection of the whole light of source, so it's
light coming in from source. They actually modify our physical cells,
and we each have our own matrix of that light,
and it lays out for us at our highest monetic
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God self, who do we come in to be? At
the sole level? And then at your subray? The subray
is the expression of that. How will that likely express
in your life? How are you coded or where you
coded to really thrive and be strong and succeed and
succeed in the sense of bringing what God wants you
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to bring into the world. And so we look at
both of those things, and that's, you know, that destination
we're looking at getting towards on their individual path.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
So you could you could actually say we're each separate
sparks of the Creator, or we're in fractals of the
desol And then by discovering that and knowing it and
getting into your heart. Then that's how you can find
your divine purpose. If I'm understanding you correctly.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Getting into your heart certainly helps you connect to what
that is. Certainly if you're listening. For me, what I'm
using is the raise to look at the specific coding
as another way to really get very specific and have
that destination that we're working towards together, so that you know.
One of the things I've heard more times than I
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really expected with my clients is I worked for ten
years with a monk. I worked for ten years with
a master. You know, spiritual type masters who do beautiful
work were not taking them to a particular destination. They
were just teaching them to meditate or whatever their own.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Particular Yeah, that's pretty exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Nobody was taking them to the place their highest self
so that they could then live there and if they
want to, you know, go on a spiritual or try great.
But you're not going as a secret anymore. You're going
as somebody who's living as your highest self and experiencing
that retreat at a much higher level, much different level.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah, Because everything is energy and everything has a frequency,
and so as we raise ourself to the God frequency.
A lot of the darker shadows and lower self things,
just from my experience, just fall by the way, So
without having to think of it like a psychologist who's
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going back into the past and finding the negative things
that have happened to you so you can then change
your frequency. It's much better to just realize who you
are instead of like personal growth. To me, it's more
like remembering who you are, remembering your divinity, and remembering
you are one. What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I think it includes both. I think it's important to
look to the past to let it go. All the
years are not feeling worthy if I don't spend some
time really understanding what the source of that was and
knowing that that was some type of programming within me,
and allowing myself, with the divine help to let that
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program go and replace it with the divine love and
purification and heal that space within me and know that
now it is gone, and begin to see myself with
my new identity, and then that allows me now the
space to remember because that heaviness is removed, so doesn't
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have to be heavy difficult work of that has gone
on in the past. But I think it's important to
look backwards in order to heal that space, to open
up the potential and possibility. Then, like you said, to
really remember and know that the body is pure and
it's been all of that's been released and to start,
(41:59):
you know, one of the biggest challenges as humans is
to start changing how we see ourselves as somebody who
no longer has that trauma or no longer has that fear.
It changes how we see ourselves and it does help
us step into that energy of being able to then remember.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Great There's another part of your book where you say
humanity stands on the precipice of greatness, which can only
be achieved through great love. God creates divine love. You
are divine love. Expand on that.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
That's what he's saying, is the time is now. You
know why am I writing the book? I think was
part of the question. And there's this opportunity now. But
love is everything, and it's so vital for our for
all of humanity, to humanity to understand that and step
into it. And the sense of urgency is real. But
(43:03):
at the same time, it's because he wants so much
for us to just oh, step into the power of
who we are and stop looking outside ourselves, comparing ourselves
to other people, seeing the power outside of ourselves. That's
why in one of the sentences he talks about we
keep putting the crowns on other people's heads. We're not
(43:25):
supposed to do that anymore. We're supposed to put it
on our own head. But you know, caveat doing it
from our heart, not from our ego, not to be choose,
you know, make ourselves king, or that we suddenly rule
the world, but understanding our own individual sovereignty and the
power of who we are as humans and as divine humans,
and understanding it from a much higher place within our heart,
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and the responsibility that then goes with.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
That right, and that you can use sovereignty in two places,
understanding that the Lord is sovereign or sovereign in relation
to that right. Right, right, Yeah, Well, on another subject
you mentioned, which I thought was great, is that you
talk about the greatest gift the parent can give to
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their children. Expand on that so.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
He talks about the elements of faith, hope, and love
and how important it is as parents to recognize the
role that you're playing in your child's and not just
cognitive development and their upbringing, but how they see themselves
as a divine being and the energy that they're going
(44:38):
to carry with them in their life and the energy
they're going to give to others, and how important it
is to teach them to let go of that ego
and be in their heart to you know, as kids,
if kids you think about the playground, would treat each
other with more love. And you want your child to
be the one that, no matter what is true, eating
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other children with love, is being respectful of adults is
under That's so.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Important because that's a problem nowadays with the parenting I
think has become so separate and abraded. Yeah, we're bringing
up children very wrong and separate in lack of love.
And then you add social media in twenty four to
seven news and these poor kids, you're getting bombarded and
(45:26):
look what and then you add the politics and like
that is that's an important thing for parents.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
To understand, to stay so connected to their children and
understand everything that they're receiving is energy. And the more
you can create an environment for your child or what
they're receiving is loving energy, that's going to nurture them
to become really loving adults, the better off your child's
(45:53):
going to be. And I think we went through a
period of time where it was sort of believed. And
I'm not a child expert, so I'm not trying to
you know, but that, you know, let them just run
wild and be independent and then they're going to grow
up more responsible or independent. Well, no, it's maybe back
(46:14):
in the day on the prairie where they were running
wild and you know, just out in the woods. But
given the world we live in, you're leaving them exposed
to so much that's coming at them energetically, like you said,
from social media, from other media, from other children, messages
that their brains don't know how to assimilate. So since
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they can't mentally assimilate it emotionally, they're going to feel it.
Their physical body is going to manifest it, and they're
not going to have that really strong psychological foundation from
which to grow into their higher self.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Absolutely, I thought that was a real key part of
your book. So, getting near the end of the time
that I have a lotted for this thing, yeah, interview,
but I would like to ask you a question. We
can probably wrap it up and then at the end
of that question, say anything you want to the listener
and how they can reach you and work with you
(47:14):
if they want to do it. So the question is
does everybody we talked a little bit about this, but
does everybody have a divine mission? And can everybody master
their lower selves?
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yes? Yes, and yes, And I really believe so much
of the heartache and struggle in the world would be
lessened if people understood that and knew what that was.
Because once you see your divine purpose and mission are
always beautiful. You're an expression of God, You're a divine being.
(47:51):
Just changes then how you move through your life. So yes,
and yes, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
So none of us come in here with any evil
intentions implanted into a lot of people talk about that,
and I don't believe that either. I don't think I
think that's great. Wells right right right.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
No, we come in as delign beings and we have
free will.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yeah, exactly. Well, thank you so much for sharing your
story and your time, and thank you. I want to
keep the conversation going. We have to stay in touch.
But how can people get in touch with you as
far as your website and possibly work with you, and
how does that work?
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much, John. Yes,
So if you go to my website, you will be
able to download a digital copy of the book for
free and then also connect with me and set up
some time with me or just have a conversation, or
if you're ready to get started in doing the work,
if you're somebody who wants to know what your divine
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purpose and soul mission are, I create those maps for people.
So my website is Lisa Petrilli dot com. It's my
name l I s A. And Petrilli is spelled p
as in Paul E. Ts and Thomas R. I l
l I dot com.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
And I'll put that in the notes too once it's
wonderful thing, Yeah, put out there. And how do they
end up working with you after they have because I
know how I work with people? Maybe different, So they
have sort of a free discovery call consultation and then
you let them know how the business works, and then
after that they sign up. Do they work one on
(49:34):
one with you with Zoom or do you work in
workshops only? Or how do you work?
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Right now? I work individually. The transformation is absolutely beautiful
and it's sacred, and with the work I'm currently doing,
I really like to have that sacred space so that
that person is open to sharing everything. And we work
either on a six month basis where we're meeting every
week and then they have twenty four to seven access
(50:02):
to me, to text me, ask questions, get guidance in
between our sessions, or we're working on a year basis,
meeting every other week, having more time to integrate some
of those lessons and more time to walk along that path. Typically,
that's also better for people who are traveling a lot,
(50:23):
maybe with work or have other types of responsibilities. We're
meeting twice a month is about the most they can do.
The sessions go from sixty to ninety minutes, so they're
pretty to go deep, make go really deep, So they
would have the choice of either of those.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Fantastic. Well, again, thank you so much for your time,
And if you're out there listening, once it's posted, I'll
have all the information on contact Lisa as well. But
you also have this and I highly recommend you do
that if you're interested in this thing. We sort of
work in a similar way. That's fantastic, So Lisa, thanks
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so much. I'm going to wrap it up now. You're
welcome to jump off, or if you stay on for
next thirty seconds week in chat. Afterwards, it's up to you,
so thanks everybody. You can email me personally at John
at johnnovelloauthor dot com, and if you want to set
up a consultation with me to discuss your particular situation,
(51:24):
you can go to my website, which is John I mean,
excuse me, go dot johnnovelloauthor dot com, slash register and
you can set up a consultation with me and have
a free life strategy session and get a copy of
my book as well by going to that site. So
until next week, everybody, flourish. It's your destiny. John Novello,
(51:45):
the Jazz Philosopher, Over and out.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
This concludes this week's podcast with the jazz philosopher John Novello.
To learn more about John, visit his website at johnnovelloauthor
dot com. Or to schedule a one on one consultation
with John, visit go dot John novelloauthor dot com, Forward
slash register. See you next week.
You're listening to the Law of Attraction Radio Network.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome to manifesting your dreams. Join renowned Grammy Award winner,
jazz pianist and Amazon number one best selling author John Novello.
Each week as he uncovers the secrets of the Invisible Architect,
the quantum intelligent energy that permeates everything even us. Discover
how to tap into this inner power to use it
(00:28):
to design the perfect life you deserve. The Invisible Architect
as Within So Without is your guide to achieving your
dream life. And now here's your host, the jazz philosopher
John Novello.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hi, everybody, hope you're all doing good wherever you are.
This is John Novello, the Jazz Philosopher. Welcome to my
Invisible Architect As Within Without weekly radio podcast. I'm the
incredible Law of Attraction Radio Network, which I'm very excited
honored to be a part of. Now a little bit
of my background. The first part of this lifetime was
(01:04):
inspiring others through my God given musical talent of composing
and performing. But I never figured in my twilight years
i'd be directly helping others as a personal and spiritual
servant of the creator who I have named The Invisible Architect,
and for the details of why and the story go
(01:25):
to Amazon or my website which I'll give you later.
It became an Amazon number best a number one best
selling metaphysical book, and it's called The Invisible Architect How
to Design Your Perfect Life from Within, so you get
all the details in that book. My vision this lifetime
that I've discovered and am working on diligently is to
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significantly transform the quality of your life by raising your
mindset frequency towards the Invisible Architect God frequency your true
inner power, and as well help you understand this spiritual
mechanics of interaction with this power so you can achieve
your highest divine self and help serve the collective of humanity.
(02:09):
So my personal desires to play a significant role in
creating a world in which true wealth, spiritual, material, intellectual
flows too through and from every person in an ever expanding,
never ending cycle of abundance. That said, welcome back to
all listeners and especially a big welcome to all new
(02:31):
listeners on the as Within Without podcast, which is all
about how to discover your inner world and have your
inner world, along with your connection to the Creator, help
create your outer world. So for more on this, you
can go to my mentor site, which we'll talk about later. Now,
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each week, I'm excited to feature interesting guests who've had
their own life changing experiences, and we'll then have the
courage to go after their inner world in dreams and
have a connection with the creator and have the discipline
to follow through with those dreams, which a lot of
people don't. I therefore consider it a stroke of serendipity
(03:13):
that I met this next incredible guest on an iconic
worship workshop about marketing that specializes in helping icons develop
their inner world, and it's pretty amazing workshop. And so
I met her on this and she's a fantastic person,
and we've got similar goals and purposes, and she's a
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transformational leader with an unparalleled corporate legacy. Having led a
seven hundred and fifty million dollar business unit at Baxter Healthcare,
she went on to serve as chief relationship officer for
CEO Connection, chief marketing officer for a boutique spiritual services agency,
and founder and head of the Medline Institute offering executive
(03:59):
education into healthcare leaders. She's author also author of The
Introverts Guide to Success in business and leadership, co author
of The Character Based Leader, and has been featured in
New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Inc. Magazine, among others.
Her new book, Life Request, which has just in fact,
(04:23):
I'm not even sure if you've released it yet. We'll
talk about that, but it's called Life Quest, is a
groundbreaking spiritual guidebook that channels divine wisdom for personal and
collective awakening through an extraordinary encounter with Jesus. Lisa offers
a revolutionary path to understanding your soul's sacred mission, overcoming
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inner barriers, and stepping into your sacred power, and becoming
an agent of global upliftment and transformation. Wow, we're such
on an incredible path, It's amazing. So please yeah, I'm
pleased excited to welcome to my podcast, Lisa Petrelli. Lisa, welcome,
(05:05):
and thanks for sharing your story and valuable work that
you're doing.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Oh absolutely, John, thank you so much for the invitation.
I am absolutely delighted to be here. It was wonderful,
absolutely serendipity that we met earlier this summer, and just
so happy to be here and to learn more about
your vision and share a little bit more about mine.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Fantastic So how about telling our listeners a little bit
this lifetime on how you came to get on this
particular path, because it's interesting that not too many people
kind of have this administrative business background and then get
into what you got into and now and the same
(05:46):
thing with me. I actually have a master's in mathematics
and then I'm a jazz musician. But here I am
doing this spiritual stuff that I never thought i'd be doing.
So I'm very curious about your story.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Absolutely. I mean, when we get we get called, and
as far as I know, you're right, I run into
very few people who have become real spiritual leaders in
a sense, you know, really trying to help other people
who have that corporate background. But for me, I had
(06:21):
an unexpected what I call my Joan of Arc moment
back in twenty twelve. And I call it a Joan
of Arc moment because her first experience really awakening to
her own path was when she heard and saw Archangel Michael.
And that's what happened with me. I heard the voice
of Archangel Michael tell me that somebody who had been
(06:44):
in a car accident, somebody close to me. I just
heard his voice come in and tell me that this
person had been protected and they were watching over him
completely out of the blue. I had never experienced anything
like that, but I knew without a doubt that's who
it was who was telling me this.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I jump in. Yeah, it's interesting because I had my
own experiences like that. How did this is for the listener?
How did you know the difference between your mind and
inner voice and thinking this compared to that it was
actually who you say it was, and it was an
outside spiritual experience, right, So.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
If people are watching this on video, I mean I
keep doing I do this a lot because it comes
in this I hear it coming from outside of me, yeah, versus.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Watching this on videos mostly audience.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Okay, So that's that's why I keep doing that, because
that's how it I hear it, and it's not my
inner voice. It sounds different. And ever since then, more
voices have come in and they each have a different
vibration and energy, and I'm at the place now where
I recognize that's the energy of for example, King David
(07:56):
or Abraham, or Mary Mandolin or the Virgin Mary. I
know right away the sound of their voice, the energy
of their presence. So in some cases I see them,
and some I'm just hearing it. Particularly when I'm working
with clients, I'm just hearing. And when I connect, when
I do my own spiritual meditation and connect to all
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of them, typically I see them and they're showing me something,
some type of image. So that just started to happen
in twenty twelve and just sort of snowballed more and
more over the last thirteen years.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, it's funny because mine happened at three years old,
which is all experned in my book. Yeah, quick side.
I was sitting in the living room with my parents
watching a TV show and imagine, at three years old,
there's not much critical thinking going on, right, all of
a sudden, this voice came into my mind and it said,
point to the TV. And like a nice little three
(08:52):
year old, I just kind of pointed to the TV.
Didn't even know why, right, Yeah, there was an accordion
player on TV in a big band, and it must
have been a past life situation where I saw the
keyboard or something, so I was told to do it.
My parents thought, oh, look at little Johnny. He wants
to play the accordion. And then later on I started
taking music lessons, so that was a blessed cosmic whisper
(09:17):
absolutely for guidance to me, and it ended up sparking
and catalyzing my whole career. And then I've had that
hookup like you got in twenty twelve every since.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Right, Absolutely, that's beautiful, what a blessing?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Really continue your story.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So that happened, and I just started to do more study.
I went really deep with really trying to understand what
I was hearing. Who else hears these voices? But it
was something that I was doing on the site because
I was still corporate world, you know, executive coaching, doing
all kinds of things. I had two daughters that I
(09:54):
was raising, and it wasn't really until COVID when everyone
had I had similar life experience of being at home
and really going within themselves that I did an enormous
amount of work to release the shadows, do the shadow
work that people talk about, release those shadows, open myself
(10:17):
up as a channel, start connecting globally with other like
minded people. That's when I really came to understand that
there is a global tribe of people waking up.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's amazing, I think it is. I never thought about
it that way, but you're going.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And I wasn't running into those people in real life.
There was nobody around me that I felt comfortable talking
about this with. But suddenly, with COVID and being online,
you know, the energy of the magnetics of it all,
I started to attract those people into my LinkedIn and
stream and just started to reach.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Out to them.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
If somebody was writing about something that sounded soul level,
I would reach out to them and connect. And the
next thing I knew they were part of a group
in the UK, or in Europe or Australia, and it
was fascinating just to connect in that way. And it
actually led to a really incredible experience and journey that
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I took to Africa a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I didn't know that, yes, so on.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That trip, I know that I was experiencing some initiations
and starting to see my role laid out for me
because I was serving with other people around me as
the person really explaining things and stepping into my teacher
role in a much more powerful way and seeing that
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come in and knowing that that was going to be
in my future.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Wow, it's interesting that you've had sort of the same
moment of a little cosmic whisper to get you to
get into recognizing that transition in that old that probably
was prescripted so interesting, aren't they always? Yes, a lot
of people don't believe that. I can't talk to too many
people about that, but now I'm one hundred percent so
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that it's obviously it's just there, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Well, And I was even it's funny you say that,
because I was reminded of that yesterday. I journal every
day when I connect to my guides, and Jesus reminded
me of that yesterday that it's all enough for you.
It's just, you know, our biggest test sometimes is just
faith interesting that what they're going to lay out is
absolutely magical and beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So yeah, no, exactly. Well then did that? Is this
your first book? Life?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
So I actually wrote a business book back in twenty eleven,
back when e books were just coming out, they were
just becoming a thing. I had been co hosted leadership
chat with a mutual friend of ours and was blogging
a lot about introversion, and that led to an ebook
(13:10):
that I wrote called The Introverts Guide to Success in
Business and Leadership. Very tangible, real world advice for introverts
in the business world to help them succeed because I
was running into so many introverts who were trying to
pretend they were extroverts, thinking that there was something wrong
with being an introvert in business, and I wanted so
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much for people to understand and embrace the superpowers associated
with being an introvert.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I thought of being an introvert in business because in
the world of artistic creation where I'm at in jazz,
introversion and introspection is a very important part of absolutely
helping your melody, as I call it, because you can't
really play at a very high frequency and high level
unless you have discovered in your inner world and raise
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your frequency and get to that creation part of it.
So that's a sense. But I never thought of the
administrators and business people. Why not, right, We're all human beings,
you know well.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And it's so interesting you say that, you know, connect
with that inner world but also be comfortable there. And
I think there's this culture in the artistic world that
it's okay to be comfortable there, whereas there's this for
whatever myth that in the business world you have to
be a certain way, you have to be an extrovert.
You have to be so social and outwardly focused and
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absolutely you know, if that is not something that is
within your comfort zone, you have to get out of
your comfort zone and get comfortable there for a portion
of your day, a portion of your week. You know,
that's part of your career, but it's not. There's nothing
wrong with being a lot more comfortable with the inner
life and tapping into those superpowers. Memorating the to your
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executive role because we need all we need people to
show up as all of who they are. And the
book you know, in this book, which yes came out
on Monday, it is Yeah, Jesus talked about that we
want you to show up as all of who you are.
You are blessed as a divine being with all kinds
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of gifts and talents. Please bring them all into your life.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, there's a took some notes when I was reading
your book, and there was a section in the book
where Jesus says, if I get this right and may
have parent, many are afraid to ask for my help
as you were. But look how your life expanded once
you let me in. Expanded on this, I think that's
an important thing for the listener.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So when I he was the first being that showed up,
when I was able to first make that real, solid
connection on my own, not just hearing something out of
the blue, but purposefully going in and seeking to connect
with the divine, and he walked. I saw him walking
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up a hill towards me, and he sat down as
if we were having a picnic, and I cried my
eyes out. In real life, I was sitting there crying
my eyes out because I could not fathom that Jesus
had time to show up on a hill and have
a picnic with me with everything else happening in the world,
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and I had to sit there and be with him
and feel that and hear him say I know. Helped
me see that I was worthy. That was such a
turning point in my life, because for me, worthiness is
that core wound we all have one. For me, it's
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been the sense of unworthiness that I've carried for no
good reason. But he helped me see how worthy I
truly was as I was with all of my flaws,
and just as I was, I was worthy. And that
allowed me then to open myself up to this spiritual
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experience and journey and to know that when he came in.
He was there for a reason, and also know particularly
be able to explain to my children that he's there
for them as well. They all are, and we simply
need to call them in and use our free will
to do that.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Exactly you just said the key to words. Yes, my
mentor spiritualship is I help people achieve eight milestones in
their life and wan them now. But one of them
is about since we have been given free will, he's
not Jesus is not going to bypass us, and therefore
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we have to invite him in our life. He's not
just going to go, Okay, you need help, I'll just
do one of my miracles there. Do you feel better.
We have to invite him into our life. And without
that that our free will. We can choose the darkness,
we can choose the lightness, We can choose whatever we
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want to choose. And I think that's an amazing gift
of love that Creator has given us. Loves us so
much that he gave us free will. Every time we
think about that, I just go, Wow, what a gift,
you know.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And I hope very much that the book, which is
really a conversation between me and Jesus, most many of
my reflections as I'm having this conversation really emphasize that point.
You just starting to really connect with the power of
his message and the power he's saying that we have
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as individuals, and that's one of our powers is to
use our free will to ask for gude answer, ask
for them to be there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I think you say in your book it's not my wisdom,
is it his? It's his. Yeah. I think that's a
great part of that book. A lot of us since
I'm on this network, that's called law of attraction. It's
not my favorite phrase. I think it's better to say
law of reflection. Our inner world reflects our outer world.
(19:27):
A lot of the problems I've had with the law
of attraction is becomes very narcissistic. I am wealthy and
I am this, and I so part of my book's title,
that's why it says the invisible Architect, which is God Jesus,
the Holy Ghost, how to design your perfect life from within?
Instead of III, It's like, no, we're the distributor of
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this wisdom, of this power. The real power as we
know is God Jesus. And so we recognize that surrendered
to that power, and we can then distribute it. I
really love when you said it's not my wisdom.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It is. Yeah, it's his right, absolutely. And when you
talk ABOUTI, that is our lower self, that's our ego self, right.
And so the work that I do with my clients,
and I don't know anybody else doing this, but I'm
laying up for them a map. Here's where you are now.
I use the ancient science of the rays, which I
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mentioned briefly in the book, to determine their sole blueprint.
And you know, here's the highest here's what your coding
is showing as your souls, where your soul wants to
be at its highest level. So that's our destination, and
here's the path to get there. And we are literally
going to walk the path until we get there, making
sure we cover everything along the way. And THATI ego
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place is the path of our lower self, and we
have to master our lower self and rise above that
to step onto that path of higher consciousness where we're
allowing ourselves to be so guided and then monad guided
or guided by the divine by God, stepping into our
god selves.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Really, yeah, exactly, I think you even say every moment
we have a choice to either express or I'm just
a paraphrase in here. Okay, let's express our lower self
and which really more like husurps or extracts love from
the world. Do our choice of expressing our higher self,
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which I think you refer to our better angels? Was
that your.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Jesus used that term to try to help people relate
to it. Some people use aware of the term. You know,
you're better angels. So it's that higher version of yourself.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
When we express our higher self, we're adding love. Elaborate
on the difference between expressing lower self you just touched
on it a little bit moment ago, where we're extracting
love from the universe as compared to expressing our high yourself.
We're adding love, which is part of my mission to
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raise the planetary frequency one by one so we can
absolutely raise humanity. Express in your work.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
By that absolutely And actually that's that's my soul's mission
is to find those warrior leaders for planets, the true leaders,
not the ones with the titles or leading the countries,
but the true warrior leaders of Earth. And I've been
guided to find them and guide them to help uplift
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humanity by stepping into their own divine purpose and soul mission,
so elevating themselves so they can then elevate humanity, and
together we do no less than save the world, and
it takes all of us to it.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
So you're but you do work. You can work with
anybody to help them do that. But are you typically
focusing on trying to find those opinion leaders? As my phrase, No, I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Not looking no leader in any type of anything, anyone
who sees themselves as a leader. And we're all called
to be leaders. That's part of it. It's part of
our test. Do we recognize do we open our eyes
enough to know we are all called to lead and
to be a leader in our own way? The ripple
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effect each of us has outward to all those around
us is massive, and when we step into our higher self,
we truly are leading the way. And so getting back
to your question, when you're in your lower self and
you're really egoically focused, it's all about what's best for me.
Right when we are able to elevate ourselves enough to
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get beyond that and want not only what's best for us,
but also in the highest good of everyone else as well,
So we're not going to make a decision that just
that's only good for me, it's going to be good
for all of us. That's the one we've gotten to
the place where we're finally stepping into our higher self
and we're able to now take those you know, there's
(24:16):
the ancients looked at initiations, but essentially go to three
different levels to get to that highest place. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Neil Donald Walsh, the author of Conversations with God. I
interviewed him about four weeks ago. The new book is
called God Talk, which I love that word. He sent
me a copy and I read it and he talks
about how God is love and a lot of people
say that, but they don't really understand what people unconditional
(24:44):
love is. And he said, I'll give you an example
of my life. He says, one day I was realizing
that I said a few things and mistreated my wife,
and this was just reasonably that he had this revelation
right well, and he goes, he goes, all of a sudden,
I realized that I wasn't operating at pure unconditional love.
(25:07):
I had a little bit of what's good for me
still involved in my relationship. That it was a great
cognition that God gave me and here I am the
guy that wrote Conversations with God sold forty million books,
and I'm still learning. And I loved that he expressed
me that he was comfortable with expressing that to me.
And he said his realization was now he looks at
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his wife from that viewpoint of pure unconditional love, and
he's always even asking or hey, honey, what can I
do for you today? So he thought, yeah, he got
off of his egoic obligation and he goes and it
brought me to a new level. And I thought that
was a fantastic share that he did, because that's what
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you're talking about, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Well, and that's something I work on with my clients
because it's so interesting when you ask about unconditional love
and then they get to the place where they they
don't just mentally understand it. It's like physically it takes
over them when they go, oh, wow, no conditions. Unconditional
means I think, to really absorb that. Wow when you
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do the power of it and you realize what that
feels like to completely unconditionally love, not just from God,
but then to share that with others as as fellow humans.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yea, yeah. Deepak Chopra said about love, he said, it's
one thing to have somebody unconditionally love you and feel it,
and that's a great revelation. But to find somebody who
you can unconditionally love is the absolute treasure. And lost
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my second wife about four years ago, and you know,
a lot of spiritual growth has occurred because of that.
But I have never met anybody in my life who
would probably be the poster being for unconditional love. She
loved me more than myself, and I realized one day
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if I treated myself better and loved myself self love
like she loved me, I could rise to a higher state.
And that's one of the problems a musician and inner
world you have to be. So we talked about earlier
comfortable with yourself in order to express your melody as
an artist, and I always had part of my shadow
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was not enough, that soul of that song, that album
I wrote, It's just not there, it's not perfect enough,
it's not enough. And then one day after my wife passed,
one of the personal growth I experienced was that I
was told was John, you are enough and own my God.
When that happened, and that was that whole thing we're.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Discussing absolutely so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
So you ever read a book Celestine Prophecy by James Yes.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
One of the things he talks about in there, which
is very congruing to what we're talking about, and the
whole purpose of his book, which is fictional about a character,
is that his quote is we have been disconnected from
the larger source of universal energy that sustains us and
responds to our expectations. And by that quote, he's actually saying,
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what's wrong with the world. We've been disconnected. There's a
separatism there. Because of that separatism, we're not one anymore.
We don't realize that we're not one with the Father,
like Jesus said, I and the Father are one. And
that was the purpose of all the insights of the book.
And that's pretty amazing. Expand on that from your viewpoint, well.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And that oneness. I'm really understanding that oneness. That's another
one of those concepts that when you actually get to
the place in your life when you step into it,
who is that a massive shift?
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
You know, the path. When we're on that path of
our lower self, we see other humans and we're like,
there's no way, I'm one with them, right, and we'll
finally understand when you get to that place when you
know we are all one, with all of our flaws
and all of the beauty of the infinite love within us,
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and our capacity to love at a much greater level
than maybe we even realize. That's when your life is
shifting and you're really stepping into be half of higher self.
So that essence of oneness is part of a path.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, that was my most I actually almost had a
heart attack when I had that revelation. Remember I lived
near a lake and I go out in the morning
to be part of nature and God before I start
my day. And I had that revelation the day before,
and then that day I was out walking around seeing
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people saying Hi and nature, and all of a sudden,
that oneness I felt with everybody and everything, and I
realized that Jesus and God permeates everybody and everything. So
many different people that I met, I kept thinking, you know,
they're just reflections of me, the reflections of God and
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I am. That separateness was gone from me, and it
was one of the ones At that point I could
have went all right, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Because you feel like you're you're so connected to Heaven,
and that's what God wants us to bring Heaven to Earth,
right to anchor it.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
That's what that our Father is, right they our father
who are by kingdom comes. I will be done as
Earth has.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
That's on Earth, as it is in heaven and in
the middle Us. But think about that experience, John, Now,
put yourself in a fortune five hundred company walking through
the halls. How early are you to feel that one list?
You know, it's it's not easy.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
And they're probably all in competition with themselves and each other.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And neigh brings so much, so much, hey jeez, word baggage.
But you know, all of that comes in, and so
you're not out in nature where all of the energy
is purifying. You know, you think about when you release
the shadows and you release the negative energy Mother Earth,
our world is able to transmute it, transmute that energy
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into something much more positive, to higher vibration. It's really
hard to do that in the halls of corporate America.
And so for all those people out there in those halls,
absolutely what you're faced with is something a lot more challenging.
And that's why doing this work is even more powerful
because you can rise above it.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Well, think about this, because one of my mentees is
a politician. Think of that world, that world as well
administrative business world. When I started working with him and
he's telling me how he's dragged this way and that way,
and the dishonesty and the darkness and the other agendas
(32:27):
and everything that's going on. He's trying to, you know,
get into his personal integrity because he originally got in
it because he really had an altruism to help. But right,
if you can't be comfortable with your inner world or
you don't even know it, next thing you know, you're
down the dark side and you don't even know it.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Right, right, All the more reason this.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Is so we have to invade the political world too.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I'm in happy to join you and go in and
take our magic wands and just help people step into
that power. Because what you're talking about out is their
face with so much darkness that they lose their ability
to connect with their own internal power.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Absolutely. That brings me to another part of your book.
I remember little notes where you said abundance lives in
the heart, not the mind. Explain that to our listeners.
What you mean by abundance.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
So what he was saying, again, this is Jesus speaking
that abundance is not about money itself, and there's a
chapter on money and that flow of energy that abundance
is has to have love present to actually feel abundant.
So when we are expressing this feeling of I feel
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so much abundance in my life, typically what we're expressing
is just peace and joy and the exuberance and that
oneness that you expressed. When we're really in a state
of abundance, we're overflowing with this heart ergy versus you
can have a you know, a very large number in
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your bank account, right, but the devoid of all of that.
So what he was trying to share was, you know
the you know the story in the Bible of the
woman with you know, her last penny. You know, she's
giving her money to the church. She's she's receiving from that.
There's abundance, and it doesn't correlate to the amount of
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money in your bank. Where your heart is your treasure
is right. So that is what abundance truly is.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Right is in the one proverb. But I'm looking at us,
I'm paying attention now so it's not looking like a district.
I listened to everything you said. I totally agree. I
was trying to look up the exact quote in a
Proverbs twenty three seven four. As he thinketh in his heart,
so is he because a lot of the law of
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attraction people, I am this, I am that, and even
Biblical there's another quote paraphrase for whatsoever you shall thinketh,
and then it says believing you have received, you shall receive.
That's one of the translations, not that you will, which
means it has to go from your mind to your heart.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
It's already there. You're already abundant exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
So part of my manifestation mentoring is getting people to
understand that B do have. It's not have to be,
which is, if I have this, I should be able
to do this and then create this. So I mentor
people the opposite. No, you have to be at that
frequency and have advanced gratitude. It's easy to have gratitude
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for something that has already happened, but to have advanced gratitude.
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Absolutely? Absolutely, yes, Yeah. The abundance is a knowing within
simply by being here. I really believe. What Jesus wanted
people to understand to a very significant degree is that
they are divine beings simply by the nature of being.
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We are all children of God. We are all the
reflection of God source Creator. Simply that alone. By really
understanding that and knowing it, not just believing it, but
knowing it, that's a different vibration changes everything. And that's
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where the abundance comes from. Is in that knowing. And
once you know, you truly know you're divine, you are
a reflection of God, then you know you're enough and
you're worthy, and all of those mounds that we talk about,
they're irrational once.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
You know, yes, yeah, because you even say so, I'll
ask you this question. Everybody have a divine mission. And
you discuss that in.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
The book, right right, yes.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Expand that because I know a lot of people that
don't think they're enough and they're just working nine to
five and their stroke, you know, paycheck paycheck. The last
thing on their mind thinking is that they're enough or
that they have a divine mission to speak to.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Those right right, everyone, we all come in coded, we're
all divine, so we all come in. And what I
look at when I'm looking with my clients at their
soul's divine purpose and mission. I'm looking at their sole blueprint,
and I'm looking specifically. I'm using ancient science of the rays.
The rays are fractals of light, a fractal being a
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reflection of the whole. So this fractal is of light
is reflection of the whole light of source, so it's
light coming in from source. They actually modify our physical cells,
and we each have our own matrix of that light,
and it lays out for us at our highest monetic
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God self, who do we come in to be? At
the sole level? And then at your subray? The subray
is the expression of that. How will that likely express
in your life? How are you coded or where you
coded to really thrive and be strong and succeed and
succeed in the sense of bringing what God wants you
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to bring into the world. And so we look at
both of those things, and that's, you know, that destination
we're looking at getting towards on their individual path.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
So you could you could actually say we're each separate
sparks of the Creator, or we're in fractals of the
desol And then by discovering that and knowing it and
getting into your heart. Then that's how you can find
your divine purpose. If I'm understanding you correctly.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Getting into your heart certainly helps you connect to what
that is. Certainly if you're listening. For me, what I'm
using is the raise to look at the specific coding
as another way to really get very specific and have
that destination that we're working towards together, so that you know.
One of the things I've heard more times than I
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really expected with my clients is I worked for ten
years with a monk. I worked for ten years with
a master. You know, spiritual type masters who do beautiful
work were not taking them to a particular destination. They
were just teaching them to meditate or whatever their own.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Particular Yeah, that's pretty exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Nobody was taking them to the place their highest self
so that they could then live there and if they
want to, you know, go on a spiritual or try great.
But you're not going as a secret anymore. You're going
as somebody who's living as your highest self and experiencing
that retreat at a much higher level, much different level.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah, Because everything is energy and everything has a frequency,
and so as we raise ourself to the God frequency.
A lot of the darker shadows and lower self things,
just from my experience, just fall by the way, So
without having to think of it like a psychologist who's
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going back into the past and finding the negative things
that have happened to you so you can then change
your frequency. It's much better to just realize who you
are instead of like personal growth. To me, it's more
like remembering who you are, remembering your divinity, and remembering
you are one. What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I think it includes both. I think it's important to
look to the past to let it go. All the
years are not feeling worthy if I don't spend some
time really understanding what the source of that was and
knowing that that was some type of programming within me,
and allowing myself, with the divine help to let that
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program go and replace it with the divine love and
purification and heal that space within me and know that
now it is gone, and begin to see myself with
my new identity, and then that allows me now the
space to remember because that heaviness is removed, so doesn't
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have to be heavy difficult work of that has gone
on in the past. But I think it's important to
look backwards in order to heal that space, to open
up the potential and possibility. Then, like you said, to
really remember and know that the body is pure and
it's been all of that's been released and to start,
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you know, one of the biggest challenges as humans is
to start changing how we see ourselves as somebody who
no longer has that trauma or no longer has that fear.
It changes how we see ourselves and it does help
us step into that energy of being able to then remember.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
Great There's another part of your book where you say
humanity stands on the precipice of greatness, which can only
be achieved through great love. God creates divine love. You
are divine love. Expand on that.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
That's what he's saying, is the time is now. You
know why am I writing the book? I think was
part of the question. And there's this opportunity now. But
love is everything, and it's so vital for our for
all of humanity, to humanity to understand that and step
into it. And the sense of urgency is real. But
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at the same time, it's because he wants so much
for us to just oh, step into the power of
who we are and stop looking outside ourselves, comparing ourselves
to other people, seeing the power outside of ourselves. That's
why in one of the sentences he talks about we
keep putting the crowns on other people's heads. We're not
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supposed to do that anymore. We're supposed to put it
on our own head. But you know, caveat doing it
from our heart, not from our ego, not to be choose,
you know, make ourselves king, or that we suddenly rule
the world, but understanding our own individual sovereignty and the
power of who we are as humans and as divine humans,
and understanding it from a much higher place within our heart,
(43:48):
and the responsibility that then goes with.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
That right, and that you can use sovereignty in two places,
understanding that the Lord is sovereign or sovereign in relation
to that right. Right, right, Yeah, Well, on another subject
you mentioned, which I thought was great, is that you
talk about the greatest gift the parent can give to
(44:12):
their children. Expand on that so.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
He talks about the elements of faith, hope, and love
and how important it is as parents to recognize the
role that you're playing in your child's and not just
cognitive development and their upbringing, but how they see themselves
as a divine being and the energy that they're going
(44:38):
to carry with them in their life and the energy
they're going to give to others, and how important it
is to teach them to let go of that ego
and be in their heart to you know, as kids,
if kids you think about the playground, would treat each
other with more love. And you want your child to
be the one that, no matter what is true, eating
(45:00):
other children with love, is being respectful of adults is
under That's so.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Important because that's a problem nowadays with the parenting I
think has become so separate and abraded. Yeah, we're bringing
up children very wrong and separate in lack of love.
And then you add social media in twenty four to
seven news and these poor kids, you're getting bombarded and
(45:26):
look what and then you add the politics and like
that is that's an important thing for parents.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
To understand, to stay so connected to their children and
understand everything that they're receiving is energy. And the more
you can create an environment for your child or what
they're receiving is loving energy, that's going to nurture them
to become really loving adults, the better off your child's
(45:53):
going to be. And I think we went through a
period of time where it was sort of believed. And
I'm not a child expert, so I'm not trying to
you know, but that, you know, let them just run
wild and be independent and then they're going to grow
up more responsible or independent. Well, no, it's maybe back
(46:14):
in the day on the prairie where they were running
wild and you know, just out in the woods. But
given the world we live in, you're leaving them exposed
to so much that's coming at them energetically, like you said,
from social media, from other media, from other children, messages
that their brains don't know how to assimilate. So since
(46:38):
they can't mentally assimilate it emotionally, they're going to feel it.
Their physical body is going to manifest it, and they're
not going to have that really strong psychological foundation from
which to grow into their higher self.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Absolutely, I thought that was a real key part of
your book. So, getting near the end of the time
that I have a lotted for this thing, yeah, interview,
but I would like to ask you a question. We
can probably wrap it up and then at the end
of that question, say anything you want to the listener
and how they can reach you and work with you
(47:14):
if they want to do it. So the question is
does everybody we talked a little bit about this, but
does everybody have a divine mission? And can everybody master
their lower selves?
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yes? Yes, and yes, And I really believe so much
of the heartache and struggle in the world would be
lessened if people understood that and knew what that was.
Because once you see your divine purpose and mission are
always beautiful. You're an expression of God, You're a divine being.
(47:51):
Just changes then how you move through your life. So yes,
and yes, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
So none of us come in here with any evil
intentions implanted into a lot of people talk about that,
and I don't believe that either. I don't think I
think that's great. Wells right right right.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
No, we come in as delign beings and we have
free will.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yeah, exactly. Well, thank you so much for sharing your
story and your time, and thank you. I want to
keep the conversation going. We have to stay in touch.
But how can people get in touch with you as
far as your website and possibly work with you, and
how does that work?
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much, John. Yes,
So if you go to my website, you will be
able to download a digital copy of the book for
free and then also connect with me and set up
some time with me or just have a conversation, or
if you're ready to get started in doing the work,
if you're somebody who wants to know what your divine
(48:54):
purpose and soul mission are, I create those maps for people.
So my website is Lisa Petrilli dot com. It's my
name l I s A. And Petrilli is spelled p
as in Paul E. Ts and Thomas R. I l
l I dot com.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
And I'll put that in the notes too once it's
wonderful thing, Yeah, put out there. And how do they
end up working with you after they have because I
know how I work with people? Maybe different, So they
have sort of a free discovery call consultation and then
you let them know how the business works, and then
after that they sign up. Do they work one on
(49:34):
one with you with Zoom or do you work in
workshops only? Or how do you work?
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Right now? I work individually. The transformation is absolutely beautiful
and it's sacred, and with the work I'm currently doing,
I really like to have that sacred space so that
that person is open to sharing everything. And we work
either on a six month basis where we're meeting every
week and then they have twenty four to seven access
(50:02):
to me, to text me, ask questions, get guidance in
between our sessions, or we're working on a year basis,
meeting every other week, having more time to integrate some
of those lessons and more time to walk along that path. Typically,
that's also better for people who are traveling a lot,
(50:23):
maybe with work or have other types of responsibilities. We're
meeting twice a month is about the most they can do.
The sessions go from sixty to ninety minutes, so they're
pretty to go deep, make go really deep, So they
would have the choice of either of those.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Fantastic. Well, again, thank you so much for your time,
And if you're out there listening, once it's posted, I'll
have all the information on contact Lisa as well. But
you also have this and I highly recommend you do
that if you're interested in this thing. We sort of
work in a similar way. That's fantastic, So Lisa, thanks
(51:00):
so much. I'm going to wrap it up now. You're
welcome to jump off, or if you stay on for
next thirty seconds week in chat. Afterwards, it's up to you,
so thanks everybody. You can email me personally at John
at johnnovelloauthor dot com, and if you want to set
up a consultation with me to discuss your particular situation,
(51:24):
you can go to my website, which is John I mean,
excuse me, go dot johnnovelloauthor dot com, slash register and
you can set up a consultation with me and have
a free life strategy session and get a copy of
my book as well by going to that site. So
until next week, everybody, flourish. It's your destiny. John Novello,
(51:45):
the Jazz Philosopher, Over and out.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
This concludes this week's podcast with the jazz philosopher John Novello.
To learn more about John, visit his website at johnnovelloauthor
dot com. Or to schedule a one on one consultation
with John, visit go dot John novelloauthor dot com, Forward
slash register. See you next week.
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