Trump Puts the UN on Notice

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We will have no choice but you totally destroy North Korea.

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Rocketman is on a suicide mission for himself and for
his regime. The United States is ready willing enable, but
hopefully this will not be necessary. That's what the United
Nations is all about. President Trump not messing around today

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at the u N. Buck Sexton here with you all
on Buck Sexton with American Out team Buck. Welcome to
the Freedom on honor, privilege, and pleasure as always to
have you here with me. Trump was laying it down
at the u N. I watched it live this morning
as it happened. I tend to have a degree of
cynicism about all things United Nations. Having spent some time

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in a US federal bureaucracy and knowing many US federal
bureaucrats and interacting with them, I can tell you that
the U N is, you know, it is a slothful
and inefficient usage of taxpayer money from all of the world,
most notably ours, because we pay what of the U N.

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Budgets something like that. Trump talked about that today, but
he had some key points that I will get into
a bit with you on this hour. North Korea. I
think the biggest right now, although Iran and the possible
de certification of the Iran deal is going to get
a lot a lot of people, a lot of people
in the foreign policy established are gonna be like, excuse me,

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so you're not allowed to do that? What do you
think you are? The president? I think he might in
fact de certify the Iran deal and said, look, we
gotta get a new deal, and the foreign policy elites
are going to screen bloody murder over that one. But
that may not change a thing. I think that Trump
doesn't really care what they have to say about some

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of these issues. But we will see, we will see.
I am I'm getting a bit ahead of where we are. Um,
and let me just say that try Trump calling Kim
Jong own rocket man has certainly gotten a lot a
lot of attention. And the way, the the disdain with
which he speaks about the North Korean leadership is forcing

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a lot of the big media folks out there to
actle like this is such a departure. Oh, this is
he's playing games with nuclear war. Go back and find
if you care to. I don't think he would, but
I meant to do it today, but I got caught
up with some other things. I got jammed up with

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my work today. Uh. But you can see that President
Obama before President Trump would speak about our military options
against North Korea. You know, all options on the table
has become a cliche. We say that, and a bipartisan cliche.
We say it about dealing with North Korea, we say
it when it comes to dealing with Iran. You know,

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all options are on the table, and you know it's
up there with saying things like the world is a
dangerous place and on complicated foreign policy matters, there are
no good options. Anyone can say this stuff, and if
you want, you can go on MSNBC. Maybe and say
it and people think you're smart. Right. I mean, this
is pretty straightforward. But on the issue of North Korea specifically,

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there has been I think a bipartisan consensus that has
been largely that has been largely wrong. Um. The consensus
being that we would force North Korea to break and
there would be a change in their behavior. Right. I
am a little concerned, and we talked about this yesterday
with Rex Tillerson saying that there are four knows, no

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regime change. No, we're still in this position where we're
trying to play kate a regime that I think is implacable.
I don't think it's possible to make them happy with US.
I don't think that that's a regime that can pivot
in that way. Um. But on the West, all options
are on the table. When certain people say it, I

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think there's a sense that maybe it's for real when
and when President Trump says it. Whether you support Trump
or not, my sense is that they believe that there's
real there's their teeth behind this. It's not just words,
Whereas with some Democrats, maybe they'll say this but they
don't really mean it. With Trump, it's a threat that

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gets people to sit up and pay attention. And it's
a threat that I think it is time for us
to take very very seriously. President Trump said that North
Korea must d nuclearize. It is time for North Korea
to realize that the d nuclearization is it's only acceptable future.

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The United Nations Security Council recently held to unanimous fifteen
to nothing votes adopting hard hitting resolutions against North Rea.
And I want to thank China and Russia for joining
the vote to impose sanctions. So they've got sanctions in place.
I don't think they'll change much. And and we'll talk

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more about North Korea in this hour in some detail,
because I do not see there. I do not see
the way in which these sanctions could, in any reasonable
with with any reasonable expectation, have the intended effect, the
intended effect being they as President Trump sent nucleus. But
I understand also we gotta try. Okay, North Korea is

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not the only thing that he talked about today. I
think for a lot of you, and you many of
you are i'm sure at work and you haven't even
watched the speech. And that's why you come here and
hang out with me. I'll tell you the key points
of the speech will place some of it you don't need.
The whole thing was a little long. I'm not gonna
lie to it was a little long, a little boring
some parts, you know, you and speeches tend to be.

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But at least he didn't. As I remember Obama doing
stand up and say, the future does not belong to
those slander the profit of Islam. I was like, WHOA,
where does that? What does that come from? All of
a sudden, Obama put on this this theologian, this theologian moment,
and I was like, whoa. That was a bit super
that was a little bit out of nowhere. But if

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you recall when Obama was elected, we were told that
the Islamic world would be much friendlier to the US,
that there would be rapprochema with Israel, that all these
great things would happen. Because while Obama was not a Muslim,
he lived for a time in Indonesia, Muslim majority country,
one that I have talk to you about here on
the show recently, and how it is islamizing. And there

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are parts of Indonesia that now are under sharia law,
and that's growing, and that should be very concerning for
all of us, because well all the reasons that you
already know, um, but for the president, well, it was
believed that President Obama would come in and there would
be this much better period of time when it comes
to relations between the West and the Islamic world, and

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that just was not. There's no reason to believe that
was the case. In fact, you had nothing but chaos, violence, instability,
and further bloodshed in the Middle East. The biggest and
most obvious foreign policy failure of the Obama administration without
question with Syria. And that's why there's a sensitivity to
it from the from the Obama crew, from those who

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were around him, from those who were working with him
on foreign policy matters. They know that their Syria record
isn't defensible. But when Obama spoke at the u N,
it was a lot of what you would expect from
particularly Democrat president, even more so from Obama, which is,
you know, we're gonna work together, we're gonna do this thing,
we're do the other thing, and we're gonna all be
together and we're gonna push for good things. So it's

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gonna be great. And Okay, a lot of multilateralism, which
is a fancy way of saying, you know, we're all
in this together, collective action. You know, it was kind
of a community organizer for the world approach. Right, that's
when WA gonna do this. Trump wasn't having any of
that today, and the media wasn't like, whoa wait a secord. Uh.

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He decided to just be Trump at the u M,
which means that you're gonna have a different flavor of things,
a different approach, a different a different tone, like, for example,
saying this to the assembled delegates form from all over
the world. As President of the United States, I will

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always put America first, just like you, as the leaders
of your countries, will always and should always put your
countries first. See, this is what Trump does instinctually understand
that other presidents, other foreign policy uh, senior officers of

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you know, wanting the State Department or what you know
whatever Secretary of State and National Security advisor, these kinds
of people. This is what they don't necessarily get because
when you go to these fancy foreign policy academies, right
when you get a degree in international relations from I
mean I could sit here and rattle off all the
different schools. Right. There's a school Advanced International Studies site

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at Johns Hopkins. There's Harvard Kennedy, which is kind of me.
I'm just telling you guys, just so you know me,
A lot of a lot of celebrities to go to
the Harvard Kennedy route because it's Harvard, but it's not really.
There are other programs are Harvard much harder get into.
I know all of you like black who cares, But
I'm just having some fun here for a second. There's
a Fletcher School at Toughts, very very fancy foreign policy
school there. So if you go to one of those places,

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you are indoctrinated in this belief that you know, there's
a global community of nations and that we all need
to work together in collective action, and you know we're
we're all gonna be friends. Everybody's gonna be great. Trump
is saying, look, you guys, do what's best for your country.
Is already I'm gonna do the same thing. So let's
just all be honest about that. And I have to say,

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I think that's refreshing. I think it's better. I don't
really want a prayer that is gonna play this game
if you know, well, we have leadership, but we're also
going to listen, and we're gonna lead, and we're gonna follow.
We're gonna lead from behind, we're gonna have strategic patients.
That doesn't strike me as particularly inspiring, and it certainly
doesn't strike me as particularly realistic. I'd rather we just

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all get the nonsense out of the way and say, yeah,
that's right, you're gonna do it's best for your country's
best for my country. Sometimes we're gonna agree on stuff,
sometimes we're not. Well, we're not gonna do is just
pay the bills for the rest of the world. You
already see that with some of the climate change U
N backed I p c C report. Oh we're gonna
pay for the developing world. No, no, we shouldn't do that.
I don't think Trump is gonna do that, And we're

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not going to allow ourselves to get I would hope
pulled into parts of the world that Trump said today
are going to hell. Major portions of the world are
in conflict, and some in fact are going to hell.

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But the powerful people in this room, under the guidance
and auspices of the United Nations, can solve many of
these vicious and complex problem. Hopefully the UN can solve
some of the vicious and complex problems. I don't know
what the U N is doing, particularly un Security Council,
if not that. But one of the great lessons I

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think from my generation and those and by my generation
I mean those who are called it fifteen to twenty
years older than me and and ten to fifteen years
younger than me, But for those of us who were
of age to either serve in the military or serve
our country and whatever capacity after nine eleven is that
we've seen that we can try to fix problems in

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some parts of the world, but we can't want it
more than they do, meaning we can't want it more
than the inhabitants, than the citizens, than the the people
that have to make it all work, and we shouldn't try.
In most cases it's not for us to do. We've
always been We've had this mantra against nation building in
Iraq and Afghanistan. We've been doing nation building in both places.

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We just need to be honest about that that that
is what has been happening, and in Iraq it looks
like we we may have made a go of it.
In Afghanistan, I still am very skeptical that what we're
trying now is going to be is going to be different.
I was skeptical in two thousand and nine. I mean
I've been skeptical for a long time. This is nothing,
nothing new for me in Afghanistan. But my my generation,

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or that let's call the nine eleven generation, because a
lot of you were, like Buck, I was a full
bird colonel when you were you know, still in still
in high school and you know, I get it, right,
But after the point here is those of us who
have been impacted by the events of not eleven and
how that's changed all the world. Um, we have an
understanding I think of what it means to try and

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fix some of these problems that are just not our
problem to fix. And Trump has been saying that for
a long time. Does he believe it in his heart
as he always believe it? I don't really, Hair, I
just think that's an important lesson learned, and I'm hoping
that he applies that to his foreign policy, although with
Afghanistan it's a little shaky right now. I'm not gonna lie, uh,
and certainly to his approach when it comes to the

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United Nations. I would hope, I would hope that that
is the case. And I think we saw some of
that today. The the U N can't be a cover
for the U. S actually fixes it, and then a
bunch of countries get to take credit, which is often
especially on security matters the case and by the US.

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And we're talking about security too. Let's let's keep it
real America, the Brits, the Aussies, the Canadians. You know,
we've we've got some of our friends who are right
there with us, literally in the trenches, you know, literally
beside us fixing these problems. But they're not all our
problems to fix, and we shouldn't try to make them
or we shouldn't take them upon ourselves as our problems. Affix.

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I think that was a tone that Trump struck today.
But you know, most the media, they really expect our
president to kind of genuflect at the United Nations, to
this international body that and I'm sitting here, I'm like,
first of all, I don't want our president bowing. Yeah,
that's right, no bowing or genuflecting to anybody. The U N.
I don't even want the U in a New York City.

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I don't even know why it has to be on
US soil. To be honest with you, isn't there an
island somewhere we can have the United Nations headquarters and
just set up a big airport and not deal with
all the nonsense here. But I guess that's a separate issue.
They got more on this, including the single best line,
the single best line from Trump's whole speech. I'll give
it you when we come back. We agreed that all

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responsible nations must work together to confront terrorists and the
Islamic extremism that inspires them. We will stop radical Islamic
terrorism because we cannot allow it to tear up our
nation and indeed to tear up the entire world. So

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you have Trump there on radical Islamic terrorism. You notice
always says it radical Islamic terrorism. That's really That's really
the the departure there. He doesn't dance around the subject matter.
He's not, Oh, you know, maybe we'll maybe we'll get
into uh a theological back and forth here about you know,
Islam religion of peace, vast majority, but what about the minority?

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And what about Jehodism? And no, no, radical Islamic ter
terrorism must stop. Now is it going to stop? No,
but you gotta try. But it's not even the best line.
I know I'm gonna I'm gonna hold off on the
best line until after the next break because it's gonna
be a whole discussion about Venezuela and we'll get into
a bit of Iran. But I wanted to take this
opportunity to one say, please do call in if you

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then you'll be in our feed and we post all
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stuff there. I wanted to give you a bit of
a preview as well of what's coming up on the
show today, so that you kind of know what the expectations,
so I can set the table for you before I
deliver a fantastic meal. Is my friend is a Manu feed.
You're going to love each girls, It's going to taste

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like eat. He's just drenched in butter. I always feel
like butter makes everything better. One of the big things
they cheat on in restaurants, or one of the ways
they cheat. They just fry things all the time. I'm like,
you know, why are your roast potatoes so good? Restaurants like, well,
we first we flash fry them, and then and then
we put them in the oven, and I'm like wow. Obviously,
and with steak houses and stuff, they'll oftentimes take melted

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butter and right when they're finishing it off, they'll just
pour that butter all over the steak. Now is it delicious, Yes,
it's delicious. But I feel like that's cheating. It's like
the equivalent of food Royds. Like you're taking steroids for food, right,
you're pouring form it's enhancing drug. Melted butter on steak unacceptable. Um,
except when I do it, then it's fine. You know,
I can cheat, but I don't like what other people cheat.

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Uh Okay. So on the show, we're not gonna be
talking about cooking much today. We will be talking about
an hour to the two of the most mind boggling
decisions by one of the most elite institutions in the
United States, one of the most powerful elite institution in
the United States. They've made a couple of decisions recently

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that they have had to go back on, and I
want to break down what's going on there. It involves
a trader and a child murderer, so it's gonna get
a little intense, but we need to discuss this. Chelsea Manning,
I think some of you've already gets the trader. I
wonder how many of you even know about the convicted
child murderer and how this all affects Harvard University UM.

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Then also we will get into so that'll be coming
up in the next hour after we've gone through Venezuela,
a little more North Korea, a little more on the
Iran deal, and then a deep dive into Antifa. I've
been reading the Antifa Handbook, so to speak. It's recently
published about the history and ideology of the anti fascist

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so called anti fascist movement, and we'll get into that.
We've got a buddy from Nashvillvie joining to talk about
some of the big stories from yesterday, and uh, if
you want, we'll take some calls too. So we have
a healthcare Do I have time for healthcare today? I
guess there's always time for healthcare. We'll see if I
can sneak that in there too. But more on the

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speech when we come back. I think we got start
off on the wrong footbi h, let's talk music. Do
you like the Elton John song rocket Man? Well, I
want to bring it up because it's you. You're the
rocket Man. One of the more memorable moments from the

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movie The Rock, which I would put in the category
of the ten most watchable absurd movies of all time.
It is a completely absurd movie. It makes sense on
really no. But I'm not saying it's not awesome, everybody.
I'm just saying, and it's certainly an action movie. We
could action movie. Quote Friday, you could certainly throw the

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Rock my way, although I would knock that out of
the park because it's The Rock. I've seen it a
million times. Um, But yeah, that's the moment where he
shoots a VX gas laden missile and hits a guy
in the chest and you know, the whole but the
Rocket Man and made me think of it because today
Trump was saying that Kim Jong on is is the
rocket Man. I don't know if this is really gonna

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catch on, and I can't even think of it is
it's already caught on. Okay, I'm I'm behind the times. Uh,
I don't even I can't even think of the tune
of what rocket? I know it's an Elton John song.
This is where, this is where I'm also gonna geto trouble.
We're about to get back into foreign policy analysis, everybody,
but let's just all let's just all put a few things,
a few cards out on the table so we can

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all understand where we're coming from here. Um L John
overrated but not like oh no, they're all yelling at
me John, a little overrated, a little overrated, not like
not like Billy Joel or even Dare I say, uh,
what's the what's the guy? Bob Dylan? Overrated? The most
overrated of all time? But definitely you know you've gotten that,

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Billy Joel, oh and Springsteen. I'm sorry in the most
overrated of all time? Number one. I know. I'm like,
people are clicking off right now, people are switching their radio.
I should stick to foreign policy analysis, but I've already
stepped in it. So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna
go with it here. Most overrated all time? Is Bob Dylan?
Second most overrated all time? Is uh Springsteen? No, Billy Joel.

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I'm being a little harsh on Billy Joel and and
actually Elton John. All right, maybe maybe I'm I'm just
being controversial with the Elton John thing, but I stand
behind Bob Dylan and Springsteen is overrated. That's right, I'll
say it. Everyone's like Bucks, don't know more music analysis
from you. Stick to foreign policy. Fair point, everybody, fair point.
So Benjamin Rocketman, that's what he's on, Kim Jongo, And
that's what got me thinking about this, Benjamin net and

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Yahoo in over thirty years in my experience, is what
he tweeted out today in the U n I have
never heard a boulder or more courageous speech. Pretty pretty
big stuff from bb there. He's he's not holding back
at all. He's going right to it. And I think
that if you were to find one moment, and I
promised you this and I followed through my promises, one

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moment that was a line that was memorable, that was powerful,
and that also really held up a mirror to what
the United Nations is as an institution. It came when
Trump said the following about the crisis, the unbelievable crisis
and spiraling chaos and misery and violence in Venezuela. The

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problem in Venezuela. It's not that socialism has been poorly implemented,
but that socialism has been faithfully implemented. Now what we
didn't play here, and it's because it's it could sound
like dead air, because that's what it was. Really, it
was just pause. It was he gave that line and

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he looked up and it was brilliant. Now did Trump
know this or not? I think he did. Say what
you will about the guy, and obviously a lot of
people say a lot of stuff. He knows how to
work at crowd, he knows how to seize a moment.
He is very very good, especially in front of a
live audience. I mean, his his rallies are incredible, right,
I mean the energy that guy puts out as just

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as a total aside, I'm never gonna make fun of
his well done steaks again because whatever his diet is,
I should probably replicate it because he's got a lot
of energy for a guy, and a well done steak
is like you know, you know, you know who who
likes well done steak people that get really excited about
Bob Dylan CDs. Um, yeah, that's right. So you know,
he's he's out there. He says this, and he lets

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it sit and and you know, looks around the room
as though he is waiting for applause, and no applause
comes his way. There is no applause. In fact, you
can see that the faces of the assembled delegates from
around the world, they're kind of you know, m hmmm, um.

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You know, the faces of those around the room are
no longer able to hide the disdain, the disdain that
they have for what has gone on here. Right. They
hate that he calls out socialism that way. They hate
that he is pointing to the failure in Venezuela as

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a failure of governance. I should note there are a
whole bunch of countries Cuba, a bunch of Latin American
states you can point to that are that we're very cozy.
Russia is very cozy with Venezuela. Iran's very cozy with Venezuela.
It's like the loser club of all the different countries
that want to support Venezuela. And there were people in

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this country as well, big pundits and and writers, particularly writers,
not so much pundits, but big you know writers out
there for major newspapers who were saying back in even
that the Bolvarian Revolution of Venezuela was the kind of
social justice political movement that should be emulated in this country,

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which is just insanity. But but what we saw is
that Trump was calling out socialism and saying that it
was faithfully executed and that that was in fact the problem,
and that they did not like that in that room
one bit. You have a lot of a lot of

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European states with prime ministers, certainly with politicians who are
favorable towards socialism. I mean, is it not the case
that Monsieur fasci Fez is socialist, very fancy socialist, but
these socialists there are others too. That state is m
Government control of an economy is what destroyed Venezuela. Government

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control of the economis what destroyed Venezuela. I should not
The government control of the economy is what destroyed Argentina
time and time again, go back for a hundred years,
all the defaults and the devaluations of the currency, and
it's just bad management at the top level of the government.
It can destroy a country. It destroyed the economy for
a long time in Argentina, and it has It has

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destroyed more than just the economy, it has destroyed civil society.
In Venezuela. We don't hear that much about it. I
don't know if it's because the media is just so
interested in the latest, you know, Russia Trump story or something.
But there's the shortages that are going on in Venezuela,
the rampant violence in the streets, the the the back

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and forth with the government about rewriting the constitution, the
seizing of power. I mean, you can roadmap out what
has happened in veneze Ala, and it is the textbook
case of a descent into of tyranny, forcing a descent
into anarchy. And the motor behind this, the engine behind

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all of it, is a government that controls the economy
and that says it is operating for the benefit of
the dispossessed, the poor. Social justice Venezuela is a story
about the destructive power of social justice. That's really what
happened there. Yes, I know, it's socialism and price controls

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and and and seizure of assets under government auspices. And
and all of that too. But the only way you
have a so called Bolvarian revolution, the only way you
have an idiot like Maduro in charge after having Joves
also an idiot in charge, is by populism based in
the redistribution of wealth, helping the poor at the expense

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of the rich fat cats, at the expense of the
Americans who are meddling. You know. That's that was the promise,
the basic promise, and it has just it is just
a complete and utter disaster, complete and utter disaster. So
so it is a so it is a crisis created
through social justice. And that's the message that not only
American liberals don't want to hear, but the rest of

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the world, with their governments and the one world government
of the u N certainly doesn't want to hear that.
One quick thing also, I wanted to get to is
is Iran. This is what he had to say about Iran.
The Iranian government masks a corrupt dictatorship behind the false
guys of a democracy. It has turned a wealthy country

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with a rich history and culture into an economically depleted
rogue state whose chief exports are violence, bloodshed, and chaos.
The longest suffering victims of Iran's leaders are in fact
it's own people. Completely true and interesting. Uh before the

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possible certification, re certification or de certification of the Iran Deal,
the Iran Nuclear Deal that the Obama administration was so
desperate to do that Trump would go after Iran and
such clear and unabashed terms. Um So, I want to
talk a bit about whether all this North Korea stuff

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we're hearing is gonna mean much. And we're gonna get
into that, and just a few stay with me. Welcome
back everybody. I know we have been talking about North
Korea here on buck Sexton with American Out today, and
I wanted to bring in somebody to give additional perspective
on this issue. We've got Michael Malice with us now.
He is the author of Dear Reader, the unauthorized autobiography

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of Kim Jong Ill. He's also the host of Your Welcome.
He is a North Korea analyst extraordinaire. Michael, Great to
have you back. Uh. So, you have a bunch of
conversations going on right now at the United Nations UM
and in the media. But at the U N people
are obviously gonna be talking quite a bit about what's

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happening with North Korea. And you have, for example, Nicki
Haley saying the following, And I think we saw United
Nations where the United States was giving over of the
funding and was being utterly disrespected. A United Nations that
was bashing Israel every chance they get, a United Nations
that talked a lot but didn't have a lot of action.

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And now we can say it is a new day
at the u N. What you were announcaeing is the
Israel bashing has become more balanced. You've got United Nations
that's action oriented. We've passed two resolutions on North Korea
just in the last month, and you also have a
United Nations that is okay, So you got you got
the idea, Michael, she's she's talking about this well, would

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be a diplomatic win, at least based on how the
international relations specialists talk about it. These sanctions on North Korea,
the UN passed, gonna really do anything? What's what's your assessment.
What's hilarious to me is how little principles conservatives frequently
have And Nikki Haley is just touting as a win
that the Israel dashing will be balanced. Well, that's the

(31:13):
rest real success balanced Israel dashing. No, the UN is
very ineffectual. Everyone knows the UN is very ineffectual. And
in this case, it's not the U n s fault.
It is completely and entirely the fault of the North
Korean regime, the worst country on earth, the worst government
on earth, and they are proud of the fact that, look,
we are standing up to the United World. This for

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them is a source of pride. Kim Jong muon is
this you know, people make fun of him in the
Western press as this like silly fat kid. This silly
fat kid is taking on every other country combined, and
there's nothing any of them seemed to be able to
do about it. I thought one of the most interesting
UH statements to come out of Rex Tellerson recently was
he was like, look, you know that this the secure

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the sanctions we got to the Security Council. UH, And
you know, Nikki Harley, one of them said, it doesn't matter.
It's speaking from the same sheet of music. The sanctions
that they got at the UN Security Council recently were
as as close to strangulation sanctions as they're gonna get realistically,
and in a sense they want to celebrate this, or
at least view this as progress. But I think they're

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telling us this to prepare us for the fact that
if the goal here is to get North Korea to
give up its nuclear program, these sanctions have an almost
zero percent chance of working. I mean, I won't say
it's zero, but it's definitely less than five. It has
a chance of working in the opposite effect. But if
I came to you and I said, if you don't

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give up your gun, I'm going to strangle you, you you
think the word strangulation. Are you going to give me
your gun or you're going to buy a second gun.
So sanctions don't work in the sense that if you
have a government that is willing to let its population start,
if you have a government that has almost complete control
of their press, and they will say, look the re

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and you don't have food. Are these sanctions? The reason
you don't have clothing and housing is because of these sanctions.
And they will point to these clips and say, look,
the evil Americans are bragging about the fact that their
sanctions are not allowing food to get to you. What
impression is that typical North Korean who is a slave,
who is a prisoner to this despotic regime. What impression

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are they going to get in this sense they're going
to be speaking truth. Michael Malice is the author of
Dear Reader, the unauthorized autobiography of Kim Jong Il. He's
with us now on the North Korea situation. Michael, where
do you think this is going? That's what everyone you
know that it's the same, It's the same basic routine.
Whatever North Korea fires a missile, you get a bunch
of you know, retired generals on TV and reporters for

(33:44):
different major newspapers are saying, well, you know, we need
smarter sanctions, we need more sanctions, and then we do it,
and then another missile gets fired and nothing really ever
seems to change. Where do you think this is heading? Yeah,
I mean, these people don't have electricity for the populace.
What else are you going to take away from them?
And why would it caused the government to change in
any possible way. What we are seeing is a game

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of chicken where you have two cars gracing at each
other as as they can, and it's a question of
who is going to blink first. Now, there are enormous
incentives for North Korea not to blink most especially and
obviously when these regimes go down, as in Iraq, as
in Libya, the people at the top are usually personally killed,
and with good reason. So Kim Jong lun is not

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in a position to say, hey, let's set North Korea free,
even if he wanted to. And at the same time,
if you look at the press over there where it's
filled jubilation and joy and they're having parades and you're saying,
look are programs are getting more and more successful, And
then you look at the press here where everyone is
freaking out and panicking. They're controlling the narrative. So this
is another reason for them to can you continue along

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this path? Because no matter what the West is saying
or doing, they are still defying us, and there in
this in a very very dark sense, winning the argument.
So I don't know what what it was take honestly,
which is something that most of those people who gone
TV don't have and which I don't even have, is
hostage negotiation techniques. What does it take to get a
killer to hand over his weaponry? This is a very

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sophisticated question to ask him to answer, and this is
something that most people who don't don't even understand the
mooth Korean regime at all, certainly are in a positioned answer.
We had Secretary of State Rex Tillerson speaking about this
on on the some of the Sunday shows, and he
mentioned specifically the four knows in dealing with North Korea.
Here's what they are the United States, John towards North
Korea is to deny North Korea possession of a nuclear

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weapon and the ability to deliver that weapon. Our strategy
has been to undertake this peaceful pressure campaign we call
it UH enabled by the four knows. The four knows
being that we do not seek regime change, we do
not seek a regime collapse, we do not seek an
accelerated reunification of the peninsula, and we not seek a

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reason to send our forces north the demilitary zone. So
the peaceful pressure and pain is built around and putting
together the largest and strongest international coalition we can to
send the same message to North Korea and to North
Korea's neighbors China and Russia that this is the policy
of the rest of the world. And you've seen that
expressed night and too unanimous Security Council resulents. Okay, you

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get the idea of Michael the four. The four knows,
Um no regime change? Uh what what is the yes,
he went through all these things on like so, so
we have a North Korean Kim dynasty and perpetuity because
no regime change, no, no, nothing. I mean you just
go down the list and right, and honestly, the real

(36:39):
concern is regime. Is that regime change in the Iraq sense,
with the sense of just giving these people just to
measure of food and education and maybe a passport. But
at the same time, how is North Korea gonna trust?
Secretary Tillison went at the same time the president and
I'm not I'm not saying he did the wrong thing.
At the same time, the president is saying we will
rain down fire and fury on you the likes the
world has never seen. And people attacked him for that,

(37:01):
but they were threatening to attack Guam and that never happened.
So maybe that is a better technique than peaceful. And
again we're trying everything at once and nothing seems to
be working. At the same time, we all have to
realize that North Korea is a closed, dictatorial society. So
much of this negotiation and you see it flip out
sometimes in the press. Much of the negotiation is happening

(37:22):
behind the scenes. There are back channels operations happening all
the time, which allows us and them to put things
on the table that would allow both nations to say face.
So behind a lot of this bluster, there is diplomacy
going on because these people are very conniving, very wicked,
but they're not done much to discuss in the Freedom
Hudson the team, thank you so much for being here
with me. Eight four or four nine eight four four

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to five. Got some calls up on North Korea. Wanted
to take them before we move on to a few
topics this hour, including the two decisions admissions or fellowship decisions,
depends on which one we're talking about at Harvard University
and what that tells us about the state of the academy.
And but before I get to that, I think we
need to go a bit into the Georgia Tech situation.

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Last night, there's a police car lit on fire. I mean,
they they fire bombed a car and a police car
a Georgia Tech because of this incident with a student
that occurred a couple of days ago. This comes after
a few days of violent protests in St. Louis after
an officer was acquitted there in a shooting. I think
the shooting was twenty eleven. The shooting was a while ago.

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Um So anyway, Well, we'll get into some of that.
But I know we've got people want to talk about
North Korea, So let's do that first. Richard in West
Virginia on w w V A Hey, Richard, Well, I
one day give you my overrated artist. That you're done
with that, so I'll just move on to what I called. No. No,
you can give me it over it, you can give

(38:51):
me an overrated We got time, Richard, who's the most
overrated musician of all time? I'm not sure if I
just wanted to know if you knew Jack. Have you
ever heard of him that? Patty? No, I've never heard
of this person, So I don't know how overrated he
can be. But North Korea talk. What do you got
on your mind of North Korea? Richard? As far as

(39:13):
you look Korea, I wanted to ask you this. This
is something I've heard many times before, probably from you too.
You talked about North Korea. I mean President Trump. I
guess the first question I can ask you, do you
believe and just about everything he says talks about North
especially with three of the little fat dictator. Even the
local host ground here talk about him. That's basically all

(39:34):
is this little fat man that isn't a reflect to anybody,
and he just popped off just like you could just
say to him, just go away, boy, you bother me
that he really isn't gonna be anything. He's all more
dark than he is bike And it's just seems to
me the North Korea, I'm not to getting them mixed
up with Patty where you see all. It seems like
they have a lot of troops that are well trained.

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So I guess I could just ask you, I what
Trump says A lot of stuff. I'll really on misbelief
that he says. I'm drinking kid, But I just want
to ask you, is North Korea somebody that didn't have
the stay start have to worry about? Well, yeah, Richard,
there there are real concerns about North Korea for US
that that go well beyond the Korean peninsula. Let me

(40:19):
just say that, if, in my opinion, if the US
were to withdraw its military presence from South Korea and
break our military promise, break publicly break our alliance with
South Korea. North Korea would invade, and it would happen quickly.
I don't know how quickly, but it would happen. So
North Korea's posture towards South Korea is not just saber rattling.

(40:43):
It's not just to uh for internal stability reasons, although
that's actually a reason to invade UH. There there's more
to it than that. I mean, North Korea I think
has a million man standing army, It has nuclear it
has nuclear weapons, it's working on its missile technology, it
has all kinds of other very nasty weapons we don't
often talk about, but that our our banned under uh,

(41:04):
you know, banned under different treaties. So, I mean North
Korea is a problem for South Korea, to be sure, UM,
and it becomes a problem for all of us when
you consider the possibility of proliferation. If North Korea were
to sell in part or in whole it's missile and
or nuclear weapons technology to other rogue states. The one

(41:25):
that comes to mind first is Iran, but there are
others as well, or even even non state actors or
terrorist entities. Then it becomes a big problem for US,
and that would be a way when we talk about, oh,
North Korea would never hit us because we would annihilate them,
And that came up today at the U N Well,
if it's not North Korea that hits US, if it's
you know, if it's the Islamic state that it's gotten

(41:47):
its hands on. And I know this starts to sound
like a Tom Clancy novel, but these are very real
concerns that people have about about proliferation, about non proliferation efforts,
and that's when it becomes it, That's when it becomes
an issue for everybody, right because what are you gonna
do you? I mean, if isis let detonates a new
kind a US city, we're gonna we're gonna evaporate North
Korea because they gave it to them, because we say so.

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I mean, it gets complicated very quickly, never mind the
awful humanitarian cost to all this. Well that's why I
just think, like I said, to hear so many people
just say I'm using that time again. Just go right, boy,
you bother me. It's like that he's not a threat,
But if they keep talking about him all the time
like they do, it seems like he must be a threat.

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Because if if you want a threat, why would the
all these people, I guess like you and others, national, local,
everybody talked about him. If he wasn't a threat, you
could just ignore him. But it seems like he must
have something going for him. And yeah, it's really no,
he's he's a he's a he's a legit concern, Richard,
And I appreciate you holding for a while and thank

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you for calling in. Uh, he's a real concern. North
Korea is is an anachronism in a sense. It's really
a hold over to the Cold War, to the Soviet era,
and it's the part of the Cold War that haunts us.
Really the most obvious part of the Cold War that
haunts us to this day. It just never really stopped. Uh,
it's that's never gone away. Um. Do I think North

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Korea is going to uh come after us openly anytime soon? No,
But when you have it, when you as This is
why I was talking about escape from Camp fourteen yesterday,
which I do really really recommend to all of you listening.
It is it's tough reading. He talks about UH needing
to catch rats to survive because there's a there's a

(43:35):
protein deficiency that people in the camp would get that
would cause all these terrible symptoms and you can die from.
But rats were a necessary literally, catching rats as a
kid was a necessary source of protein for him. I
mean the stories you read in this book are they
will haunt you, they will stay with you. But a
government that will do that as as systematically to its
own people is capable of anything. That's why I was

(43:55):
telling you that yesterday about escape from Camp farteen. That's
why it's such an important story for Americans to hear
and to know, because we're not dealing with people making
decisions here who were going to say, WHOA, we would
never do that. I mean that would really, that could
really that's really nasty. That's that would harm a lot
of innocent people. North Korea doesn't care, doesn't care at all.

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Um Todd in North Carolina on w P T I
what's going on? Todd? I just wanted to talk about
North Korea. Man. Basically, what I gotta say is everybody's
talking about North Korea. But the main sponsor of North
Korea is China, and without China, North Korea would not
exist from the very gid go. That's the main reason

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we stopped in the Korean War is because of China.
That's not that's we're not hearing that. That's true. If
the Chinese hadn't crossed the Yalu River in force and
and come to the aid of the North Koreans, we
would have a unified Korean peninsula and it would probably
be a prosperous democracy. We wouldn't have all these problems.
So it really is. I mean, you're right in drawing

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a direct line to this is on China. I mean
the fact that we're in the situation room right now.
But in terms of the leverage that we have, Todd
and I think this is what you're You're you're going
for now, um our ability to get the Chinese to
put do pressure on North Korea to get them to
stop what they're doing. Uh. That the Chinese are not
completely aligned with us on this, I mean they're aligned

(45:24):
to a degree, and they won't be they won't be
aligned with us. I mean, that's right. I mean, if
you're China, do you really want do you really want
a large, populous peninsula that is contiguous to your land
mass that is a giant pro US military base. I mean,
that's not what Korea would be if it were unified.
But to some, to some in the Chinese military leadership,

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I think that's how they would see it. I mean,
but that that's that's China stick. They're just waving, waiving
North Korea out there in time they want to do
whatever they want to do. Well, let's weak up freaking
North Korea. Oh that's right. I mean, nor North Korea
is a couple of missiples out there, and you're gonna
forget everything about us. Oh yeah, that's that's exactly what

(46:08):
we're facing. And then and you don't I mean, I
understand diplomacy and everything, but all you have to do
is put the word out there. Just put the word out.
I mean, what do you mean put the word out right?
You got I mean, you've got people calling them the show,
you know, talking about North Korea, North Korea, North Korea.

(46:31):
It's not North Korea without China. And they do not exist.
They are nothing. They are nothing. They start to death
in place, that's all they are. I mean, South Korea
is a foe, right, But we obviously you know that
all the stuff we talk about when it comes to top,
when we talk about North Korea and how we have
all the options on the table, and we could we

(46:52):
could annihilate North Korea if that became the decision of
the United States government and military. Uh, that's not a
conver station we want to have about China, right, So
they are clear there are clear limits to how much
pressure we can put on China, and I think that
that's that's what we're seeing right now. Look, we got
these U n. Security Council resolutions through China and Russia

(47:14):
were okay with them, but they weren't. Yeah, I know
it's not gonna do anything, but they weren't even as
strong as they could have been because China and Russia
said no. And you know what we say, What do
we say to them? First off, what is the United Nations?
But a bunch of communists stand in the line, That's

(47:34):
all They are there waiting to be communists. If they
mean that, that's a little harsh. They don't think necessarily,
I wouldn't. I wouldn't go that. It's the League of Nations,
it's the League of name. I know it's a Woodrow
Wilson invention. No, I get all that, but I mean
I'm not communists. I mean, we got the Brits are there,
the Canadians are there. We got we got brothers and
sisters out of that audience, But Todd I got. We've

(47:56):
got a couple more calls I want to get to
and then I want to talk about what happened in
George Detect last night. So shields high and thank you
for calling Ted and Florida on w f L. A Hey, Ted,
how's it going. It's good, sir, Thank you for your call.
I'd like to know what you think of the US
dropping out of the u N and removing all funding,

(48:17):
if that would have an effect. It would have an
effect on the u N for sure, because I think
they'd be billions of dollars short of what they're used
to in their budget. And you know, I understand this
because there's a Americans. We understand that we're not all
of us, but certainly conservatives and constitutionalists and and a
lot of Republicans, although not all view international government as

(48:43):
as on its face problematic. You know, it's it's inherently
fraught with risks to liberty, and so we don't trust
the u N. I and I understand that. And it's
set in the second we start being told that there's
gonna you know, the u N is it wants to
put election monitors at our elections, and un wants to
tell us what to do with climate and and we
feel that dare I say, globalist hand involved in things.

(49:08):
We have concerns. But the u N on the other
side of it, it does give us some leverage and
and open open channels for discussions with countries that are helpful.
And you know, it's uh, it's kind of man. I mean,
I don't think it does as much as people want
to want to believe that it does. But I also
think it's a relatively speaking um. The risks of involving

(49:31):
in the u N are pretty low, and the benefits
that we get from it are not high. But there
are some there are some well, I think that you
know that the last caller said that, you know, he
thought it was the communist kind of thing. I don't
see it's communists. It's more socialists. Yeah, I mean communism

(49:53):
is to communism is now you're talking about a dictatorship
of the proletariat and a revolutionary committee to oversee the uh,
the class war and the expansion or the elimination of
the bourgeoisie and I mean, there's Communism is a pretty
specific thing and there has to be a a you know,
we have to be clear about what it really. It's
not just socialism, right, there's although the original communists, when

(50:14):
we think of the Soviet Union, refer to themselves as socialists.
But there are some distinctions that I think are worth
being made. Although I like calling people a comed just
as a pejorative, it's kind of fun. But Ted Shields
time and thank you for the call um. Georgia Tech
last night, some stuff going on there because of a
shooting and then there was the verdict in St. Louis,
So a lot of unrest recently, or at least a
lot of reports of unrest, protests and and all that.

(50:38):
I want to talk to you about this, this shooting
in on a college campus in Georgia Tech and how
it led to protesters fire bombing a police vehicle on campus,
because when I look at the facts of this, I'm like,
what are they what are they thinking? What are the protesters?
But we will get there and also next hour deep
dive into antifa ideology and history where it comes from.

(51:01):
I think you will find that to be a worthwhile,
worthwhile uh, expenditure of our time here on the show.
UM eight four four eight four five, because back with
you all team in the Freedom Hunt, and I want
to talk to you about what happened at Georgia Tech
last night. I was just getting ready for well, honestly

(51:23):
is getting ready for bed. I was looking through the
social media stuff to see what's going on in the world,
and I saw this photo of a police cruiser that
was on fire on a college campus. I was like,
what is going on here? And I remember reading about
the initial story. For those of you who may not
know what happened, let me give you a little bit
of the background then we'll get into what's going on here. UM.
And it had to do with this individual named Scott

(51:47):
Schultz and or sorry, it's part of me, Scout Schultz.
UM And what am I getting that wrong? No? Yeah, okay,
Scout Shultz. And I'm looking at the team here to
make sure I'm not going to mess up the name.
And he was shot. Although he identified as non binary
and intersects and preferred the pronouns they and them. Uh,

(52:13):
this was a twenty one year old male, so I
will refer to him as a he because they for
no other reason is a problem because it is plural
not singular. Uh. And that's just too that's that's too much. Um.
And look, I know that this person just lost his
life and this is very serious, but I I am
struck by how the media has to contort itself to

(52:34):
try and come up with ways to stay consistent here
and they can't. It always runs into inconsistency. All right,
So what happened was that Mr Scout Schultz was had
a history of mental illness. And it looks at a
very sad situation. Okay, it's just no matter no matter
how you look at this, it's it's tragic, and I
feel really badly for uh. Schultz is family. Um. But

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he was a big proponent or you know, member on
campus of these different lgbt Q groups, and he was
walking around camp. He had called in a threat to
the police that there was somebody walking around with a knife.
And then and then we have the audio of this,

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and you're not gonna hear the actual I don't think
you'renna hear the momentum, but you're this is what he
was yelling at the at a police officer, at a
campus police officer, right before he was shot, but just
content warning on this because it's it's disturbing stuff. Cops

(53:51):
are pleading with him drop the knife. He did. He
had a utility tool in his hand, not actually a knife,
but I mean a utility tool at night in the dark,
when someone's been called. When someone he called it in
himself that there was a person with a knife walk
around campus. This is what when I was in the
n y p D, they would call suicide by cop.

(54:13):
It's I mean, and that's I think the terminology that
anybody would use. I mean, he was trying to force
the police to draw it down and shoot him, and
that is what happened. And it's a tragedy. It's tragedy
that somebody with this ment, with mental illness would want
that to happen to to himself. Um would push for
that to happen. Tragedy for the officer. Officer didn't want it, said,

(54:35):
I think it's a campus police officer that day didn't
want to shoot anybody. Just wants to keep people saving
go home. There has no interest in shooting some Uh
we called them in the NYPD and e d P.
Emotionally disturbed person was the technical term that we used here,
and so you'd hear reports of an e d P
and that was not usually a report that the uniformed

(54:56):
officers that I was kneeling with wanted to take because
you just never knew. You never you know, an e
DP could be somebody in the corner who's shaking and
crying and wouldn't harm anyone. Or an e DP could
be standing on the edge of a roof and trying
to grab somebody nearby to jump with him, right, but
you just don't know. So, uh, this scout Schultz, this

(55:18):
this young man was shot and killed. And then there
are all these protests, and the protests last night were well,
this is how the Washington Post reported on it. A
police cruiser was torch protesters were arrested, and at least
one Georgia Tech officer was evacuated by ambulance Monday night,
just two days after a student was fatally shot by
campus police outside of dormitory building. What are these protesters?

(55:42):
What are they protests? And what do they think they're doing?
I just see this as more of the ideologically driven
antique cop animous that you see on the left, which
has been this has been pushed by the media so
much those who are going to say things like, oh,
he didn't have to he did and have to get shot.
I can tell you that even from the the limited

(56:06):
training that I've had on these matters, but I have
had real training on it. Someone's got a knife and
there within uh there within twenty or thirty feet of you,
and they want to get to you, and you've all
you've got is a side arm, you've got a pistol. Uh.
There's a very good chance they're actually gonna be able
to stab you before you can put that person down.
So someone who is emostly disturbed has a knife and

(56:26):
says and is yelling shoot me, shoot me, kill me.
I mean, it's a lot of it's asking a lot
of an officer to put himself for herself in harm's
way and not actually fire on the threat. And that
is what happens in the team I had talked to you.
I think I mentioned at least on air that Chelsea
Manning formerly Bradley Manning, which is now called dead naming

(56:51):
when you state that somebody is somebody is uh well,
had had a different name at one point. And this
is very much looked down upon in left wing circles.
But the Chelsea Manning had been invited to be some
kind of an adjunct fellow of one kind. I don't
know whatever, and fell adjunct fellow. That sounds like a microaggression.

(57:14):
An adjunct person, an adjunct human being. Sir, thank you,
thank you, but just making sure the team knows that
we don't refer to adjunct fellows. I don't know what
they're gonna do, you know, like the different fellowships, And
how are you gonna apply for fellowships now in college
camp You're gonna have to apply for like human ships. Um?

(57:36):
But okay, so and there was an outcry, including from
some four very senior former government officials associated with Harvard,
and they left and okay, fine, And Harvard's a big deal.
It's like a twenty plus billion dollar endowment, most famous
university in the world. People think the most elite university
in the world. You know, I know Yale's and Stanford

(57:56):
folks are very upset of me right now, but nonetheless
they stand ford Ians. I have no what do you
call a standard Stanford A Stanfordite stand ford Ian? I
have no idea. UM didn't apply to Stanford or anything
about it. So okay, So that went away. Yale had
to backtrack on that, and they're like, all right, fine,
and then Chelsea Manning tweeted out something along the lines of, see,

(58:18):
it's a police state because they're not they're not allowing
this person to be a fellow at Harvard. Well, being
a fellow at Harvard is an elite thing, or at
least it's supposed to be. So you would think that
because of the competitive nature of it, and also the
elevation that occurs to be associated with Harvard. That's why
people pay all this money to go to some of
these different schools there. Look, I was thinking about going

(58:40):
to some of these fancy sounding schools to get an
NBA just so somebody would hire me. Right, What what
are most NBA's I know learning their NBA programs how
to socialize and drink beer? If they didn't learn that
already in college, not a lot of of deepened, uh
and rigorous. Well depends on the school, I guess anyway,
So Chelsea Manning is no longer going to be a

(59:01):
fellow at Harvard because that was one. This is just
the last week or two. But there's another story that
I think is even more shocking about Harvard and what
now diversity really means an academia to the left, And
what kinds of virtue signaling and virtue virtue destruction or

(59:24):
virtue debasing they are willing to engage in. Right, They
virtue signal and that look at us, we're so diverse,
we're so great, we're amazing, We're Harvard, and they virtue
destroy or debased by doing things that make it seem
like there's no need to be virtuous right there, there's
no need to be an honest and ethical person. Harvard
will still find a job for you if you fit

(59:47):
in to a leftist narrative. So there is this uh
woman and this is from from decade. This is a
decades old case. Her name is and she was just
written about a few days ago. The New York Times
big piece on her, on her situation, and it's called
from Prison of PhD, The Redemption and Rejection of Michelle Jones,

(01:00:09):
and it's really uh, it's supposed to be. The whole
piece is about redemption and about how amazing the work
she did in prison was. They don't go into much
detail about her crime, uh, And they talk about how
Harvard University accepted her into their PhD program in American Studies,
which I think is under the History Department. So she

(01:00:31):
was accepted into a program that I think accepts like
ten out of three applicants. A lot of other people apply,
this couldn't get in. They take her, and then they
end up not taking her. And and here's what we
here's what we find out. Well, for one, Harvard writes
a total of in this piece, I think it's two

(01:00:54):
lines about her actual crime. And her crime was that
she was a really an a mother who never wanted
to be a mother and was completely neglectful and abusive
towards her child. And actually, and this is what happened,

(01:01:17):
beat her four year old child to death and left
the body to rot and then hid the body and
still to this day it has never been found. So
that's what she did. And she was sentenced to fifty
years in prison for that fifty years, which sounds about
right in terms of the sentencing. Some of you would
probably understand what more and go to the even the
next level. But it was a very a very um

(01:01:41):
heinous crime and it was punished severely. But she got
out at for twenty years, and she did some historical research.
When we are uh sorry, historical research when she was
in uh in the in prison, and what we find
out it is that Harvard takes her and then there

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is a backlash, and the backlash is something like the
following quote. We didn't have some preconceived idea about crucifying Michelle,
said one of the two American studies professors quote in
the New York Times article. But frankly, we knew anyone
could just punch her crime into Google and Fox News
would probably say that pc liberal Harvard gave two hundred
grand of funding to a child murderer who also happened

(01:02:24):
to be a minority. I mean, come on, end quote, Well,
maybe that's because Harvard was about to give two hundred
thousand dollars of funding to a child murder in a
prestigious PhD program. I'm not saying that people aren't allowed
to try and find redemption and you've served your debt
to society and all that. I understand all that, I
get it, But this was a heinous crime, and Harvard's

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PhD program is not a you know, a simple job
that allows someone to just sort of feed themselves. And
I would also note that any of these sanctimonious liberals
at Harvard or anywhere else, who would take somebody who
has a criminal background? Would they take somebody who was
accused of sexual I'm sorry, who was guilty of sexual assault.
Would the Stanford swimmer who got a few months sentence

(01:03:07):
for his sexual assault that was a huge story across
the country if he did some really interesting research, you
think Harvard would take him? Never mind even so many
first serious crime. Do you think Harvard would take a
student who had been expelled previously for plagiarism? No, of
course not now that's that's too much so now in
Harvard's PhD program. I just want to understand their ethical
limitations here, their ethical limits. They won't take a plagiarist,

(01:03:32):
but they'll take a child murderer. And then they get all,
you know, angry about it when people point out that
that's a bit strange, isn't it. It's not just strange,
it's up two. So it's disgusting, and Harvard is among
many institutions here that really needs a reality check, aren't team.
Welcome back to the Freedom Hut. We've got a lot

(01:03:53):
to discuss today, including the continue to fall out from
some of those breaking news stories that I was able
to tell you about on air yesterday, Manafort being told
at least a cording to reports that he may be indicted. Well,
we've got a a lawyer and analyst and all around
patriot veteran here to join us to talk about all this.
David French is with us. He's a senior writer for

(01:04:15):
National View, an attorney, and a veterative Operation Rocky Freedom.
He's got a piece up on National review dot com.
Menaphort to be indicted was Trump Tower wire tap. First
thoughts on two big scoops, Mr French, Great to have
you back. Well, thanks so much for having me. I
appreciate it all right. First thoughts on the two scoops
are Rocky Road and min Chocolate Chips. Sorry, go ahead,
bad Joe. Well this would be a taste here to scoops.

(01:04:40):
These these are pretty grim. Uh you know, looked at
the two the two things quickly or that looks there now.
The New York Times reported that that investigators told Manafort
Mueller's investigators told Manafort he was likely to be indicted.
And then there's CNN scoop that apparently Manafort was subject
to FISA warrant at two separate occasions, one starting around

(01:05:05):
another one starting again in the middle of the campaign,
and went into some point this year. And guess what
may have resulted in conversations between Manafort and Trump being recorded.
We don't know that, but it may have happened. So
both of those things are both interesting and disturbing Manafort. Now,
I told people about those breaking stories yesterday on air,

(01:05:26):
and I'm just wondering, as as we've all been able
to look a bit more at the sourcing on all
of this and the context of the reporting, how worried
do you think Manafort should be right now? If if
you're in his shoes? Are are you losing some sleep
over this at this point, I'm not sleeping at all
if i'm if I'm Manaport at this point. Um, you know, look,

(01:05:47):
his house is rated. Um, that's pretty well established. The
sourcing on the New York Times story does not seem
to be coming from the Mueller camp. It seems to
be coming from um. It seems to be coming from
perhaps attorneys or witnesses who have been subject to the
investigation so far. Uh So it seems relatively solid in

(01:06:10):
a raid like the one that was that was launched
on on Manafort's home is not something that's just casually done. Uh. So,
you know, I think that given what we know about Manifort,
given his long history of foreign quite tangled foreign relationships,
I would be very worried if I were him. Now

(01:06:32):
it's really important to say this. When I say, if
I'm Paul Maniford, I'm very worried, that's not the same
thing as saying therefore, he's going to be indicted for
colluding with Russia in this election. Um. One thing that's
pretty clear about the coverage so far is that it
looks like Mueller is investigating financial transactions that may have

(01:06:54):
nothing to do with the sixteen election. So when I
say he may be indicted or i'm I'm I have
sleepless nights if I were him, that's primarily what I'm
referring to. Yeah, And and this is I find this
troubling because if the investigation is about Russia collusion and
they just decide that they're going to do a deep
dive into Maniforts taxes and they don't find anything having

(01:07:14):
to do with Russia, necessarily, is that justice really being served?
I mean, I guess, but it's not really what's supposed
to happen here. It's not really the purpose of these
extraordinary prosecutorial and investigative powers that have been gathered together
by Muller. Well, you know, if you're going to be
investigating ties to Russia and collusion with Russia, one of

(01:07:35):
the first things you're gonna do is you're going to
be starting to lift rocks to see if there's anything
financial that would give some sort of financial motive. So
I'm not necessarily bothered that, uh, that Mueller might be
finding financial crimes and prosecuting financial crimes. That the problem
that I see is I can easily see a world

(01:07:55):
in which financial crimes are found and then that is
termed in the court of a public opinion into some
sort of conclusive alligant or an allegation that that that
collusion occurred or that the administration is illegitimate. We've got
to be really careful about what the facts are here,

(01:08:15):
and you know what, what if anything, that the Special
Council finds. But as a as a general matter, if
you're if you're looking under rocks to see links with
foreign powers and you discover criminal activity, I don't have
a problem with prosecuting Yeah, I just don't like the
I R S. But I know, I know, and you're
a lawyer and you know the law. I get it.
But I'll just you know, I had to pay my

(01:08:36):
estimated taxes for the last quarter or so. I'm going
to particularly foul moved when it comes to the revenue
service in this country. But I digress. Um, David, I
want to switch gears a little with you. We're speaking
to David French, senior writer for National Review. He's got
another piece up on National review dot com, one of
my favorite sites to defeat campus craziness. Don't just treat symptoms,
cure the disease. We're talking about about Antifa and campus

(01:08:57):
craziness in the next hour. But how do we cure
of the disease? Yeah, well, you know, one of the
biggest problems with the camp with the campus is the gatekeepers.
In other words, you have campuses that are set up
from ground up that are biased in favor of progressives
and radical progressives. So if you're a conservative faculty member,
you have very little chance, especially in the humanities or

(01:09:20):
social sciences, of getting a fair shake. Admissions committees for
colleges are in many subtle ways biased against conservative students,
especially religiously conservative students, And so what ends up happening
is you get these environments that are overwhelmingly progressive, just overwhelmingly,

(01:09:41):
and then we say, oh, well, look at that radical
professor or this group of radical students, let's do something
about them. Well, you're just going to be playing whackamole
with these radicals unless we can begin to reform the
very process that turns these these institutions of higher education
into ideological cartoons and ideal logical bubbles. And it's a

(01:10:01):
tall order, but I'm just trying to warn people that
when we're talking about what's happening on campus, the problem
isn't just a few radicals. The problem isn't a weird
professor here and there. The problem is a system that's
built from the ground up to be biased in favor
of one point of view. I like to tell people
this because they don't believe me, and then I'm like, no, no,
I can. I can actually point you to the literature

(01:10:23):
at my own college, Amorous, which is not considered radical
along the same lines as as like Read College and
Oregon or Oberlin, or there's something Wesleyan which I love
to pick on love to make fun of Wesleyan UM.
But at Amer's there were more socialists slash Marxist, slashed
anarchists on the faculty in the humanities than there were

(01:10:46):
open Republicans. That was a fact. Oh absolutely. I mean,
I would say at schools of amorous quality UM all
around the country, that is a general rule, is going
to be absolute fact. When I was at Harvard Law School,
the number of people who are these sort of neo
Marxist critical legal study scholars, they were. They They were

(01:11:08):
not the majority of the faculty, but they were enough
to where they set the dominant tone in the faculty.
And I could count on the fingers less than half
the fingers in one hand the number of actual Republican
faculty members when I was there. I mean, the disparities,
just if people un fully understood the disparities, that would
blow their minds. I mean, when we say ideological cortoon

(01:11:30):
or ideological bubble, we mean it. And one more thing,
David before we let you go, and imatu to check
out David's pieces up on National Review dot com. Talks
about both the big bombshells from yesterday in the news
cycle with Manafort and the Russia collusion investigation, and also
campus craziness stuff, which we'll be getting into more detail
in the next hour. I'm gonna give you a deep
dive on Antifa ideology coming up here. But David, I

(01:11:50):
think one surprise for some folks, and I put myself
in the not surprise but a little like on this
is that the left hasn't really more. They haven't uh
pushed back against this shutdown speech mentality and even Antifa
itself as much as I would think they would have
at this point, given the behavior at Berkeley, given the

(01:12:14):
attack against um Charles Murray at Middlebury, They're not really
distancing distancing themselves from this as much as I kind
of thought they would have to. Well, there was some
distancing going on, and you see an increasing number of
professors speaking up her progressive professors and worried about free speech.
But then something happened a few a couple of months

(01:12:34):
ago that really put a screeching halt to this and
gave Antifa a lot of credibility. And that thing is Charlottesville.
And so when that when the car you know, the
car terror attack happened in Charlottesville, you had this weird
response which wasn't just how horrible that terror attack was
and how evil that terror attack was, but then they

(01:12:55):
also began to lionize at least some people members of Antifa.
I mean, do you know remember seeing they were they
were compared to the soldiers who stormed the beaches at Normandy.
I mean, that was that was one of the most
appalling memes I've seen in widespread usage. Ever. Oh it
was stunning. So uh, yeah, they were beginning to distance

(01:13:16):
themselves some some folks, and a lot of fair minded
folks were, and a lot of fair minded folks still are.
But what will really depress you is if you go,
if you follow, say, for example, Megan mccartle on Twitter
wrote a really thoughtful piece against Antifa, and you see
the reaction that that piece has gotten, where people are saying, yes,
I believe I should I should have the ability and

(01:13:38):
the right to punch in in in foot physical violence,
and people who disagree with me. The number of people
who believe this, and in one of these um one
of these surveys, believe the very survey're referring to is
up to nineteen percent of students agreed that you could
use violence to shut down to We're going to get
it up a little more the next hour. I mean,

(01:13:58):
it's it's astonishing, is of David. I mean you you
would think that this This is like when people are
going around doing the polling in some foreign countries about
you know, I mean, you don't really support Osama bin
Laden al Qaida, right, I mean we're looking for nose there,
but you get like eight or nine percent in some
countries that are like no, you know, bin Lan is
not so bad, Like wow, I'm not supposed to say that,
but that's kind of the way it is on college
campuses here with punching speakers, you don't like. I think

(01:14:20):
we're all expecting that everyone in a college campus is
supposed to say no, but they're not. Um, David French,
everybody on Nashal Review, David's thanks so much for making
the time to demand. Great to have you on. Thanks
for having me. I appreciate it. Uh, team, we're gonna
talk about Antifa, A deep dive on Antifa ideology coming up,
as well as that poll that David mention. Will give
you some more details on that and also advice for

(01:14:42):
for college age people that the left does not want
you to hear and then my advice about napping all
that coming up. You know, they show up in the
helmets of the black masks and they've got clubs, so
they've got everything and defa and defa. Ah. Yes, there
you have Trump talking about antifa. That was that the

(01:15:05):
rally in Arizona some weeks ago. But antifa has become
a term that a lot of folks that read the
news or paying attention on what's going on social media,
we've all become pretty familiar with it, at least we
hear it right, Antifa anti fascism. And the left is
trying very hard to both create the perception that they

(01:15:28):
don't buy into Antifa, while also maintaining that, you know,
ultimately that they kind of agree with antifa, right, so
they they don't necessarily want to go along with antifa's tactics,
but it's ideology is somehow necessary. This is because the
left wing base is largely sympathetic to antifa, and in fact,

(01:15:51):
Antifa is a part of the left wing base in
this country and in the Democrat Party. Uh, there was
a video that you may have seen, and it's it's
pretty troubling. It's Antifa using this was just posted today
using social media to track down a guy in Seattle. Look,
he's an idiot, Okay, he's wearing and he's wearing a

(01:16:12):
swastika arm band. He does seem to be holding himself
up as a neo Nazi, which is a disgrace and
is pathetic as well as horrific. But that doesn't mean
you get to punch somebody. And this is where Antifa
becomes a problem for the rest of us. They think
that they are allowed to engage in physical violence against

(01:16:35):
people if they don't like their belief system. They can
destroy property, they can shout and shut down speech that
they don't like by acting up, by throwing what is
essentially a tantrum, and that that they have an obligation
to hunt down people that they don't like what they
say or they don't like what they stand for, and

(01:16:56):
attack them physically, I mean to break the law. And
they're open about this. They said that violence is necessary.
Violence is not, in the case of Antifa, a an
accident or the choice that is made by some faction
within the broader movement. These Antifa groups are specifically trying

(01:17:17):
to find so called Nazis to punch. In this case,
somebody actually wearing a Nazi armband and to engage in
Nazi punching. I refuse to do what the left does
and just focus on the most superficial talking points and
engage in mockery of political opponents without understanding, right, this

(01:17:39):
is what the left does. They just say that everyone
on the right is bigoted and racist and dumb and misogynistic.
I actually try to spend some time getting to know
what is it that the left thinks it is accomplishing here?
What do they really believe? And so I have been
reading and am soon to finish uh some thing called Antifa,

(01:18:01):
the Anti Fascist Handbook by a a former Occupy Wall
Street organizer, which I'm going to return to this in
a moment, because I've been telling you all along that
this is just a rebranding of Occupy Wall Street, which
was just a rebranding of the anarchist anti w t
O protests in Seattle, and Black Lives Matter is merely

(01:18:25):
a faction from within that same leftist protests movement that
existed long before Mike Brown and Ferguson and all of
that happened. I saw the seeds of everything that's happening
today with Antifa in the Occupy Wall Street movement. In fact,
I wrote a book about it. It was an e
book called Occupy American Spring. I attended every one of

(01:18:48):
the major Occupy Wall Street rallies in New York City,
including some that got quite violent and destructive with black
block people in attendance, which is just Antifa before or
calling themselves that. And I was there the night that
Zukkati Park was cleared out and there was a lot
of screaming and uh people getting wrestled to the ground,

(01:19:10):
and it was a mess. But I've seen the slogans before,
I've seen the rhetoric before, and so it was really
interesting to me having covered Occupy Wall Streets so closely
in person here in New York City and then seeing
that it is an Occupy Wall Street organizer from New
York named Mark Bray who has taken it upon himself
to right a serious and I give credit where it's due,

(01:19:34):
it's a serious attempt to explain the ideology of Antifa
from an incredibly sympathetic and pro Antifa perspective. But at
least it's not just some semiliterate clown who is spewing
slogans without doing any research and having any real understanding
of the underlying political philosophy of antifa. So here's what

(01:20:00):
here's what I think you should know from this Antifa
the Anti Fascist Handbook, which I've said I will uh.
I'm honest with you about what I've read and have
and I'm almost finished with it. I I will be
done with it either tomorrow the next day, depending on
my reading schedule. I'm also spending some time getting deeper
into some books on North Korea. I'm also researching for
a La Panto Battle show that we're gonna be doing

(01:20:21):
in October, because the overwhelming consensus from all of you
is that you really like the history deep dives I had.
I had one one person telling me don't do that,
and then I don't know a hundred or two hundred
telling me that they love it. So we're gonna do
a little more, although what format remains to be seen,
but there will be more history deep Dives coming your

(01:20:42):
way from the Freedom HUD. But back to Mark Bray
and this book, Antifa the Anti Fascist Handbook, I give
him credit. This was an honest from the perspective of
a partisan right from from an anti fass supporter This
was an honest attempt to explain what this movement is. Uh,
he is a partisan, he's not objective, but at least

(01:21:05):
he's writing about this in a way that there's something.
You know. Usually with these movements, they would say, oh,
we don't have an ideology. Oh this is it's all decentralized, delocalized.
That's a dodge. Just with Occupy Wall Street, they were organizers.
There was money involved in some of you are like
sorrows money, but there's money involved. Of course, there is.
Somebody has to pay for those shiny placards that they

(01:21:28):
show up with at these uh these protests. But here's something,
here's some background on this movement that is now in
the news frequently. It's in the news today because they
found they someone saw and it was pretty amazing because
you can almost follow this in real time via the tweets.
In Seattle, which is obviously a very left wing place,
someone saw an individual with a swastika arm band on

(01:21:51):
tweeted out with the location and direction of that person,
and then people showed up, tweeted out more, tweeted out more.
They track this guy down who had a swastic armband
and punched him in the face. Now, who could be
so stupid and inflammatory and just idiotic on every level.
As to where a swastic arm band ever is beyond me.

(01:22:13):
But to where when in Seattle is like begging to
get punched in the face in a sense. But just
because somebody is an idiot doesn't mean you get to
hit them. This is the core problem of so called
Nazi punching. But you had a big incident of Nazi
punching today, just as you had that viral moment where
Richard Spencer, the alt right nationalist who gets so much

(01:22:35):
attention because the media wants him to get so much attention,
he got punched in the face and that went viral
as well. So Antifa is with us right now as
a movement, and it is going to be vying with
Black Lives Matter for supremacy in the militant left vanguard. Right.
This is these are the militant left political movements in

(01:22:56):
the country right now, and Antifa tries to bring others
under its tent, so to speak, whereas Black Lives Matter.
It can be a part of these different protests, can
be a part of these political these political movements on
the left, but also as a standalone but I'm getting
a little ahead of myself here. So here's what you

(01:23:16):
learn from the Antifa handbook. Um, it is a transnational
political movement and they take very seriously. And I think
this is the most important takeaway from this anti fascist handbook,
which you can get on Amazon by the way. I mean,
I don't know if you want to give money this
guy or not, that's up to you. I mean, I

(01:23:37):
this is something that I deal with when I read
leftist books. I'm like, is there a way I can
get it from a library because I don't really want
to put money in their pockets necessarily, but I also
need to know what the other side is thinking and saying.
So it's transnational. Uh. They take seriously, and this is
the key point. They take seriously that they are dealing
with Nazi movements. They don't just say Nazi because they're

(01:23:59):
trying to smear although that is a real effect of
what's happening. They believe, or at least they publicly proclaimed
to believe, that they are combating Nazi movements in their infancy.
They're not pretending that Hitler is about to or a
version of Hitler is about to take over America tomorrow.

(01:24:19):
Although they say that Trump is a fascist, but they
are saying that if they don't literally punch Nazis today
in the mouth, tomorrow we could be in the middle
of a fascist a fascist inspired or fascist directed you know, uh, totalitarianism,
another holocaust, all the great terrors of the twentieth century

(01:24:41):
revisited upon us. Now you may be saying, I mean,
that's the most ridiculous thing ever, Buck, and I would
agree with you. But this is what they say. Just
like with jihadists and how I try to understand their
belief system, I also want to understand. You know. Yeah,
I can sit here too and talk about how they're
a bunch of filthy, dumb hippies. They don't know anything.
I know, these are actually nice and peaceful and like music.

(01:25:02):
But these are a bunch of of brats from you know,
from wealthy suburbs of a lot of cities in New York.
They're in their late twenties and thirties. They're little pretend
petty revolutionaries, but really they're all getting rides and their
parents BMWs do these things. I mean, I can say
all that too, and I'm not saying that's not true.
I'm just saying Let's look at what they say they believe,

(01:25:25):
so we have an understanding of what the appeal is
to youngish it's really millennials. It's not young people, it's
people that are in their twenties, late twenties and early thirties.
From what we see so far, let's see what they believe.
They say that they are stopping Nazism, and they explicitly
endorse violence, and in this book, in this anti fascist handbook,

(01:25:47):
that is clear their violence is not a bug, it
is a feature of antifa um. They also believe that
fascism Nazism did not die in they reject that historical narrative.
So there's historiography at work here too. There's a fighting
over history with this movement. And they will say that

(01:26:10):
fascism is murky, but fascism is a know when you
see it phenomenon, and it's largely a cult of personality.
It's based on the cult of personality. And they believe
that Nazis don't get to say anything. They don't believe
in just counter speech. They don't believe in you can
say what you want, I can say what I want
in the marketplace of ideas. No, No, they believe in

(01:26:32):
active silencing and violent destructive measures to achieve that because
in their minds they also think as completely disconnected from
reality as this is that they are the best last
hope of defending, you know, human kind against the rise
of Nazism on the right. Now, one of the big

(01:26:54):
problems you run into in this book is that they believe,
or according to Mark Bray who's this I guess de
facto historian of Antifa, that socialism, anarchism, and communism are
ideological opponents of fascism, when in reality it's not that
they are at polar opposite ends of the spectrum. History

(01:27:16):
showed us, and this is true when you look at
the rise of communism and fascism in in Germany leading
up to the period of the Third Reich. This is
the reality of uh the fight between communism and socialism
and the various adherence to it in revolution era Russia.
I mean, this is a rewriting of history that is

(01:27:41):
very essential for us to understand because the left wants
to believe that socialists are the anti fascists, when in
reality socialists and fascists were vying for the same recruits
in the twenty century share many of the same ideological underpinnings.
The notion of collective is m and he actually mentions

(01:28:02):
collective defense in his talk about violence in this book.
But collectivism is at the heart of fascism. It's just
in the case of socialism. And it depends on the
on the flavor are we're talking about communism. Is there
a dictatorship of the proletariat involved here? Is there a
revolutionary committee, a central committee, uh, that is in charge

(01:28:24):
of this this class warfare against the bourgeoisie, And you know,
you get into all these different flavors of what is collectivism.
You see, what's different about the way we approach politics
and the way that these individuals approach politics is that
we believe in individual rights and that that is the
basis of the state. They believe in collective rights. They

(01:28:47):
believe in collective approaches to all social problems, and that
the collective whatever is decided by either the mob as
the collective or the elites in charge of doing the
best they can for the mob, that overrides individual rights.
You see, they reject by their nature. Antifa rejects our Constitution,

(01:29:11):
rejects our First Amendment, rejects our Bill of Rights. And
when you understand their ideology as I do from both
covering Occupy Wall Street but also now reading uh, this
somewhat serious scholarly attempt to explain Antifa. Um, you have
a much better understanding of why it is that one

(01:29:33):
this group has some appeal to people on the left
because they have been brainwashed into thinking by the media
and others that Trump really is a fascist and too
how we need to come back this to just say
that they're idiots and you know they're dumb and oh no, no,
they are tapping into some very mainstream sentiments. Antifa taps

(01:29:56):
into mainstream leftist sentiments about defense of people from racism, sexism, homophobia.
They say that in fact, racism, sexism, and homophobia and
xenophobia are the bedrock of fascism. Now that's a historical,
but it doesn't matter because you can see how there's

(01:30:17):
a merger that is occurring here, a merger of different
leftist groups all under the Antifa banner. Antifa are the
militants of the Democratic Party. That's what they are. When
you read the handbook, when you look at their literature,
When you've spent time talking to and covering these groups,
as I have, you see exactly what's going on here.

(01:30:38):
This is not just about Antifa, I should note, and
if you wanted the Anti Fascist Handbook by Mark Bray,
you're not gonna like it. But if you want to
understand the enemy, you might want to spend some time
reading it. It's up to you, but I read it
for you so I can tell you a better here
on the show. This is a much bigger problem than
just these groups of uh black clad want to be revolutionary,

(01:30:59):
want to be paramilitaries running around the streets. This has
spread to mainstream campus thought. I'll get into that right
after the break. Hey, so I team, I know we
were just talking about anti faz ideology, and I was
trying to walk you through some of the core points
of what it is that these people that dress in

(01:31:20):
black uniforms where masks, uh, carry around shields and other
weapons and and pick people out and attack them for
their ideas, not in self defense. Uh. But I wanted
to make the point that they are not uh, They're
not operating in a vacuum. There are many more people
that are sympathetic to their point of view that I

(01:31:43):
think the general public, or that certainly then the media
wants anyone to realize. Here is what this This Washington
Post and and this has been getting a lot of
talk today. This Washington Post peace that where they did
a poll of college age students. They asked them this question.
One in five respondents say using violence to disrupt a

(01:32:06):
controversial speaker is acceptable. Uh, this is astonishing. So the
question was, a public university invites a very controversial speaker
to an on campus event. The speaker is known for
making offensive and hurtful statements. A student group opposed to
the speaker uses violence to prevent the speaker from speaking.

(01:32:28):
Do you agree or disagree that the students actions are acceptable?
This is what David mentioned before, and I wanted to
give you the actual stats. Agree that attacking a speaker
on campus that you don't like? People would agree with that,
And you had thirty percent of males. Uh in this survey,

(01:32:52):
we're in the agreed category female. Um. And then this
is also this is trouble democrats. I'm sorry Democrats and
Republicans said this. Now, we haven't seen any Republicans trying
to stop speech on campus. We certainly haven't seen it

(01:33:13):
in the same numbers and frequency that it's been happening
on the other side, but that Republican number needs to
be zero. I kind of want to find I wish
I could find where these campuses were across the country
and go and you know, I know it's an anonymous
survey and this is against spirit of the whole thing.
But I want to sit down with any Republican and
be like, no, no, no, no, no no, we leave
that to the crazy left wing. Well we we don't

(01:33:34):
do that on the right. That's not how this goes.
We believe in individual rights, individual freedom, and liberty. Yeah,
they take the term liberal, but they don't mean it.
It's a misnumber, it's a falsehood. Don't play their game,
don't fall into the trap. Violence against speech is absolutely
never the answer, and it's it was just troubling to

(01:33:55):
see this. Although I wonder it's Democrats because in the
in the other parts the survey, it's so the Democrats
are much more likely to shout down speakers and feel
much more accepting of their emotions, dictating what is allowable
and not allowable speech. But anyway, this is the washing post. Uh. Advice.
I want to get to advice coming up here in
just a few moments. That is now being challenged on

(01:34:17):
the left. I think, because well, it's exactly the sort
of stuff they don't want to hear. They don't want
people to hear. We'll be back with that more. Hey,
Buck Sexton, back with you. Now. I know that this
is not a This is not a self help show, right.
I don't come in here and and tell you to,
uh you know, I don't know, avoid dead at all costs,

(01:34:38):
pay cash for everything, make a list of things to
do during the week, don't procrastinate. There's lots of stuff
out there with all that, but I do occasionally, when
I feel strongly about something, try to uh share a
bit of a bit of Buck wisdom on something, particularly
for our millennial audience, because we have a lot lot

(01:35:00):
of folks listening across the country who are younger than
I am, which is great and I am very very honored.
We even got folks at the at the level of
undergrads on campus that listened to this show. So when
I pass along some some little nuggets of of Buck wisdom, um,
I hope that it's useful to them. So recently we

(01:35:21):
have that article, I think it was in the Wall
Street Journal about young women in college and just smart
guidelines for them. This isn't a return to the Stone Age,
this isn't the Handmaid's Tail. This is just, hey, don't
get super drunk. Don't allow yourself to be alone with

(01:35:43):
a guy when you're super drunk that you don't know.
Demand that somebody actually take you out on a date
and get to know you. I mean basic stuff, but
really good stuff. And I can tell you these are
things that I was never well, I'm not a young woman,
but when I was on campus, I never heard this.
I heard a lot of stuff about resources for the

(01:36:04):
uh lgbt Q community, and a lot of stuff about
diversity training and a lot but and and also there
was a lot of discussion of sexual assault resources on
campus that's been around for quite some time. But no,
at no point in time did they have an upper classman,

(01:36:25):
which I think would have been really would have had
real impact. They never had an upper classman sit down
with the freshman, which I should note I forgot about
this yesterday. Yale got rid of freshman because it's offensive.
They don't want to trigger people, don't trigger us. So
now it's first year. They've now gotten rid of freshman.
It's now first year, second year, third year, fourth year.

(01:36:47):
Uh so there is that they will not change the
name though, and I will I will not let Yale
slip out of this one. It'll ie who Yale was
a slave trader. Yale University with its multi multi billion
dollar endowment, his name for a slave trader. So all
the PC crap that they pull until they get rid
of the name is just for show. Getting rid of

(01:37:07):
the name would really hurt, though, because these schools are
all about name recognition. But I digress. So the advice
was good, I thought in that Wall Street Journal piece
for young women, particularly young women on campus, I wish
that it was required reading for every high school senior
on her way to college across the country, because they're
gonna get inundated with drink. Drink, drink, do whatever you

(01:37:30):
know makes you popular. Uh, you can drink as much
as guys. I mean. One of the problems we have
with the breakdown of of gender norms, which has been
a project to the left for a long time. And
you can go back to Angles and his writing on this,
you know, marks and angles. Angles was all about how
class structure and family structure is inherently oppressive and women

(01:37:53):
or it's like a form of servitude. And maybe we'll
get into that in some detail another time, if if
you want a deep dive on marks and angles and
Marxist or angles desire to really destroy the family as
we know it. And they're like, wait a second, that's better.
The notion of destroying the traditional family is quite old.
Oh yes it is. It has been with us for

(01:38:14):
for a while. But women don't get told these things,
and they're not told that men biologically Oh my gosh,
don't say it can usually not every time I know
there's something, there's plenty of ladies listen to this right now.
We're like, buck, I will drink you under the table.
And that is accurate. But biologically speaking, men are larger, heavier,
and more able to process alcohol. And so when women

(01:38:38):
try to keep up, when young women try to keep
up with the guys on campus, they get blackout drunk.
Bad things happen, all right, So I think that's really
important advice. You know, my little sister is now has
now graduated from law school, and she's a wonderful young woman.
I couldn't be more proud of her. If she were eighteen,
I would have smacked. I mean she doesn't need you know,
I need her help now like days, I need some
advice because she's a lawyer. But if you were eighteen again,

(01:39:01):
I would have smacked that editorial down on the table
in front of her and said, read this before you
go to college. Although she was very mature and I
didn't have to worry about her. Uh. Now I see
another instance of this, and this is by you know,
Heather McDonald, who we've had on the show many times,
who is a Manhattan Institute scholar, and she's pointing out
that what are called bourgeois norms are now offensive. And

(01:39:25):
you're like, well, buck, bourgeois was with the fancy What's
what the fancy friends were? A French word? Why why
we gotta call it bourgeois? Nor what they mean by
that are Well, let me tell you. Here's Heather's peace
in the Wall Street Journal, and this goes under that
category of good advice for everybody. But it's advice that
the intelligencia no longer wants Americans to hear. It's I bigoted, unfair, prejudicial,

(01:39:50):
I don't know. Here, Well, we'll pick out a few
of them. Here's what she writes to the list of
forbidden ideas on American college campuses and bourgeois on norms
which are This is now we get into what those
norms are, hard work, self discipline, marriage, and respect for authority.
Last month, to law professors published an op ed in

(01:40:12):
the Philadelphia Inquirer calling for a revival of the cultural
script that prevailed in the nineteen fifties and still does
among affluent Americans. Get married before you have children and
strive to stay married for their sake, Get the education

(01:40:33):
you need for gainful employment, work hard, and avoid idleness,
a shoe, substance, abuse, and crime. The weakening of these
traditional norms has contributed today's low rates of workforce participation,
lagging educational levels, and widespread opioid abuse, The professors argued,
Now she goes into how this op ed. Those are

(01:40:53):
pretty straightforward and universal concepts. Right, get married before you
have kids, stay married when you have kids, get an
education that will let you get a good job, work hard,
don't be idle, don't drink too much, don't break the law.
That's it. Really, it's really sound advice. It is really
really good advice. And I just see the the subtle,

(01:41:17):
slow moving devastation within my peer group of people who
have bought into this. You know, yeah, you know, I'm
just gonna drink, and I'm gonna keep drinking and lots
of drinking, and maybe some drugs here and there too,
and drinking and drugs and drinking and drugs. And they
don't realize the long term effect that it is having
on them, that they are not where they would otherwise
be in their careers and their personal lives, that it

(01:41:40):
is actually slowing them down physically and professionally and personally.
So I see this happening all the time. Now. I
think I'm not telling people don't have a drink. I
like to drink once in a while, but drinking is
a dangerous beast. I've talked you about this on the
show before, and alcoholism is much more subtle than on
the bar. And I'm picking fights with people. I never

(01:42:02):
see no alcoholism as I come home every day and
I have a few drinks and I get a little buzzed,
and if I don't, I get nervous. If I don't,
I'm agitated. You know, That's what or at least having
an alcohol problem, maybe not a full fledged alcoholism, but
an i'lcohol problem is is bad. Enough. But this advice,
as I said, was pretty straightforward, but people freaked out.

(01:42:25):
Here's what Heather writes in this walltart journal off. The
op ed triggered an immediate uproar at the University of Pennsylvania,
where one of its authors, UH teaches. The dean of
the penn Law School published an op ed in the
student newspaper noting the contemporaneous occurrence of the op ed
and a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, suggesting that these
views were divisive, even noxious. Half of miss Wax's law

(01:42:50):
faculty colleagues signed an open letter denouncing her peace and
calling on students to report any bias or stereotype they encounter.
Students and alumni petitions poured forth, accusing Miss Wax, the
author of the editorial about those norms that I mentioned,
accusing her of white supremacy, misogyny, and homophobia, and demanding

(01:43:11):
that she'd be banned from teaching first year law classes.
This is insanity. This is universally applicable, good, sound, well
intentioned advice, but now it's part of misogyny, racism. It's
a woman riding the op ed, but she's still part
of the patriarchy. She's been co opted by the patriarchy.
I just I noticed that there is a hostility among

(01:43:36):
academics on the left. There is a hostility towards morality,
towards goodness, towards responsibility, towards individual endeavor and accountability. There's
a hostility to those concepts, and it's really at the
core of what it means to be a quote liberal

(01:43:56):
these days, although they're anti liberty, so I hate that
term for them. The modern left, the progressive left in
this country, at its core, is opposed to the basic
standards that you would need to form the very judgments
about what is moral and what is good and what
is good. Advice for young people, young people listening that
stuff about get married before you have kids, stay married

(01:44:18):
once you have kids, get an education for a good job,
stay away from too much alcohol, stay away from drugs. Entirely,
this is all really good advice. And I know I
sound like an old fogey and get off my lawn
and all that, but I'm telling you, I'm only thirty five.
I see it all the time playing out. It is
fantastic advice. Don't listen to the left. They don't know
what they're talking about We're talking about naps part two

(01:44:41):
in a second Stay with Me, Welcome back, team Buck,
here with you. I like to think of myself on
occasion as a trend center, cutting edge, a revolutionary even
not when it comes to fashion. If it weren't for
Ms Molly, I would look look around the bottom of
my closet and the end result of my fashion choices

(01:45:04):
would always be the well intentioned, but goofy dad from
an eighties sitcom. So it's not that I'm a trendsetter
in that way. And and I can't claim to know
what's going on really with pop culture anything else. Well,
when it comes to my love of napping, it looks
like I may be onto something. Yeah, that's right. You're welcome, America,

(01:45:25):
You're welcome. It's catching on. People are writing about this.
And I'm not gonna say the Wall Street Journal necessarily
listens to Buck Sex and with America now, But I'm
not gonna say they don't. I don't know, maybe they
do their piece today. Continuing on with our series on
why you should start taking cs? Do you could call

(01:45:45):
it if you want to make it sound a little fancy,
if you just wanted to be you know a little
more America, you'd just be like naptime. But what's the
best way to take an afternoon nap? The Wall Street
Journal writting about this today and what they're telling you
are a few key things here. One is that if
you're an adult, you want to get seven hours of

(01:46:06):
sleep a night, which I'm sure you've heard many times.
It used to be eight when I was younger. I
remember people saying that now you're hearing seven, But seven
seems to be pretty manageable. The place where the two
areas where we tend to create the biggest sleep deficit
are in our commutes and our working hours. I mean,
we're just working all the time, and I have to

(01:46:28):
force myself at night now to turn off the phone
or at least put it aside. And the Kindle is
good for me. The kindle I can read and I
can fall asleep with it pretty easily. But the phone
and social media and everything else, it keeps you wired,
and you need to bring that down and get a
good night's sleep. You're just not as functional. I mean, anytime,

(01:46:50):
if you've ever had the experience of being up all
night for whatever reason, whether it's stress or whether it's
you're out partying back in the day, back way way
back when there were a few nights. What I can
remember perhaps leaving a nightclub and the sun had come
up or started to come up, and that was uh

(01:47:10):
that that was an instance of me needing two days
of recovery after that. But I'm a huge believer in sleep.
I also think that then the notion of a nap room,
which at the Huffington Post, Darlink nap room is like
the best. It's what we do to Huffington's Post. We
pulled together a place for you to do yoga and
the knaps because Ariana Huffington's is all about life work balance. Well, yeah,

(01:47:35):
life work balance if you're already a millionaire and don't
have to worry about getting fired, as pretty much everybody
I know the huffing In Post has had to either
worry about or has been fired at one point. Um,
so yeah, it's easy to it's easy to be the
cool uh new management practices boss who's like, hey guy,

(01:47:55):
he's like this, just seen this. I'll just take a
little break here. We've got fantastic snack set up for you,
non gmo, organic and sustainable of course. And then we're
all gonna stab working see you hard. We're gonna go
into a yoga room and we're gonna just get into

(01:48:16):
child's pose or a dead body pose, and we're just
getting little. That's just go man, that's great if you
don't have to worry about the other guy or gal
at their desk doing their work right. So we are
all stuck in this, in this hamster wheel existence. And
the one time that we all can finally recharges when

(01:48:36):
we're asleep, and so good sleep is essential and the
health benefits of this are tremendous. I should note that
the research on immunity I'd like to read about this stuff.
The research on immunity and a good night's sleep is
is staggering. If you skip, if you get an entire
night without sleep, your immunity is dramatically affected by that.

(01:48:58):
I mean. And and some of you probably how this
experience if you stayed up all night because you were
trying to, you know, cram for final exams, which I
should note they've also done lots lots of studies on
how cramming doesn't work. But then if you've got a
cold a couple of days later, you always probably thought
to yourself, Oh well, that's just stress. But the truth

(01:49:19):
is that your immune system was depleted because you weren't
getting sleep, which is also tied into stress. And I
should note that stress is probably the single least appreciated
and understood aspect of the health uh well, various health
crises in this country, everything from heart disease to uh

(01:49:40):
issues of of obesity and and you know, stress play
such a large role in all this. But we're we're
always led to believe that, you know, if we just
if we're the hamster on the wheel, we just run
a little faster, one more you know, hit the pellet
or hit the little thing one more time, Get one
more pellet. It's gonna make everything else seem like it's
not a big deal. Sleep is essential. You cannot be

(01:50:02):
skipping out on sleep and and getting all of your
work done and being as efficient and effective as you
should be. So naps are a key part of that. Now,
if you're somebody who finds yourself falling asleep at your
desk involuntarily, that means you have a sleep deficit, according
to this Wall Street Journal article, Whereas if you decide
on your own to take a twenty minutes is pretty optimal.

(01:50:26):
I don't know. I can never nap for twenty minutes.
I always end up doing the nap where I think
it's gonna be twenty minutes, and then I wake up
like two hours later, and I'm like, you know what,
I like, have like the dry mouth and I have
the drool on one side and the dry mouth, and
I'm like, where am I? And I don't know what's
going on? And I have that kind of that's my

(01:50:47):
version of the nap right the and you have that
little moment of panic, like if I been asleep all day.
But I love it. I mean, I still love napping.
So it's very helpful for you. It's very good for you.
And I said, I should also know that this was
on the drudge of work today too. Forget getting rich,
Sex and sleep are the keys, the real keys to happiness.
I don't think you needed me to tell you that.

(01:51:08):
But also true very important for health, those those two things,
health and sense of well being, which they are tied
into each other. I know, I get I get a
little kind of hippie hippie stuff going here when I
talk to you about wellness and health. But you know,
I have some family members who are very knowledgeable in
these areas, and I try to pick up as much
as I can on my own, largely because I find

(01:51:29):
Western medicine so deficient when it comes to lifestyle issues
and chronic pain and any not stress management. You know,
they're just like here's a pill. Here's a pill, take
the pill. Here's a pill. Uh. That's not going to
fix a lot of things that people going to the
doctor to deal with. But now pardon me for getting
up on my you know, Fiser sponsored soapbox there Um, alright,

(01:51:53):
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(01:52:34):
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