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May 18, 2024 9 mins
DR. ALFRED O. BONATI DISCUSSES THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS IN COMPUTER-BRAIN INTERFACES AND HOW THEY’RE HELPING PARALYZED PEOPLE WALK AGAIN (AMONG OTHER USES).  
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You're listening to American Medicine Today,presented by the Benati Spine Institute, featuring
internationally acclaimed inventor of the Benati Spineprocedures, Alfred Benatti, MD. Once
again, your host Kimberly Burmel Benatiand co host Ethan Yuger. Welcome back
to American Medicine Today. I'm KimberlyBenati. So, Doc, there's some

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incredible technology being done between computer braininterfaces and those that are paralyzed, where
it's getting them up and walking.Is that correct? Why don't you tell
us more about it? Well,it's a type of a new advance that
was done in Switzerland and this isprobably one of the most advanced situations that

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we ever have in paralyzed people.And why is that? What they do?
What they did is they use sometype of a bypass like a breach,
and it's being called the BSI isthe initials of this. Its brain
spine interface and what really it is. They put that bridge that gets directly

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the implant on the brain and theytransfer information that is going to cross the
area where the damage on the spanelcord was created, and the information from
there is going to get the informationfrom the brain directly through the bypass to

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the spanel cord. Okay, isthere anything different about the way that it's
hitting the spine than previous computer braininterfaces that have helped the paralyzed walk.
Well, this one is the veryfirst time that they make the people walk
totally normal. Before, there weresome type of experiments that they use trying

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to mobilize let's call the legs,okay, and they were not really pinpoint
like this time they really did.What they did is locate through a computerized
system exactly the areas of the motorlocated on the brain that they will mobilize

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the extremities. So once they irritatethose areas and they saw that was emotion
created, then they create different areasto mobilize the hips, the knees,
the ankles and all. This wasthen organized in a certain way that the

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people will be able to mentally getthe information. But the information initially was
very rough. So what happened isthe one the information was transferred, it's
not the same to have a verysmall type of electrical bypass and allowed the

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most to be soft. So theyneed to they need to they need to
practically trigger different types of a power. So the person if you say stand
up, it's not gonna jump,correct, Okay, So or you say
move your hip and the passions startto run something like that. Well I'm

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exaggerating what I'm saying, but I'mtrying to give you an impression that they
need to modulate this a certain waythat's very soft. So it looks like
a normal walking and is done bythe man by the mind, but the
mind gives the information, the computerregulates that and then give the information with
the bypass to the spinel cord andthen the spanel cord makes the motion.

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Correct. Is this device something thatneeds to remain inside the body. Yes,
it's a small type of a it'scalled a small computer that they put
directly on the brain and to dothat they need to do a cardiotomy.
So what they do is they doit bourhole and then they get inside the

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exactly where they need to put thistool there. Now, the important thing
here is you you need to understandthat the damage on the spanel cord can
be a different levels. Can benot only a different levels, but at
the same time it can be differentdifferent types of damage. For example,

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one can be completely completely torn thespanel cord and then the interface needs to
be a little different. Otherwise sometimesthe damage can be just a partial damage,
so it's easier to repair that.The first person that they treat was
a thirty three years old person whohad a partial spanel cord injury, so

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relatively young, you set a partialspinal cord injury and they were relative young,
yeah, very young. And thenthis individual was placed on this device
and the interfaces start to perform ina certain way that he initially start to

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walk, but then they discover somethingelse. If the information and instead to
go directly to the nerves that theyare exiting from the spanel cord, the
information will go to the dura.And then the dura seems to be that
when you have an injury, thebody just to protect and see if they

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can't recover, because you see peoplethat sometimes have an injury and then years
after they recover and then the peoplethink that they just heal and that's it,
okay, And the dura is thethin membrane. The doura is the
membrane that covers all the nerves.Okay, well in the the span cord.
So what really happened with this isthey start to realize that the information

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that goes from the brain, itgoes to the dura will immediately irritate areas
that they are giving information and behavinglike a bypass. So even if even
if the area of the injury requirean interface there, the interface can be

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done by going directly to the duraand irritating the doura. Sure, and
if they do that, the nextthing that happens is they irritate the dura
and they put the patient walking withsome help. And then they did three
hours sessions of physical therapy for fortydays. And seems to be that that

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wake up communication that is on thedura to become like a bypass of the
area where the injury was created.And what is amazing is that suddenly start
to become the most interesting solution becauseafter the physical therapy the people was able

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to walk almost normal. But thenthey switch off the instrument. Yes,
and after the switch of the instrument, these people start to work better.
Then seems to be that the communicationfrom the brain to the dura is the
way that should be done. Nowwe need to study how much of this

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will require just a very minimal electricityor a minimal type interface to create that
communication more realistic and easy. Andif we can do that, probably we
can create a bypass directly from theupper part of the dura that is damaged,
cross the damage area and go tothe dura below and put that communication

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there. And it said to beusing a computer in the brain. Yeah,
that's amazing that they can bypass thehurt areas and almost recreate. Would
you call it a nerve pathway orsomething that kind of resembles that. Yeah,
it's well once once, once youonce you reactivate, well the nerve

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will function like like like all thenerves function, right, They received the
information, will act and if youlook at them, you look at the
video, these individuals are working normaland and initially I thought we need to
use crutches and things like that.But after that extensive physical therapy, then
they reactivate. They seem to bethat they wake up this this communication that

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exists in the body, but it'sbeing used very sell them by the body.
By when you have a normal,normal structure, but the condition abnormally,
you can you can bypass that andyou communicate. Then you're bypassing the
injury, and you bypass the injurythen then you can create normal activities.

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Truly amazing technology that's in the systemtoday. Imagine being able to reactivate a
pathway so that you are no longerparalyzed. Make sure you stay tuned.
Coming up after the break, you'llhear more. You're listening to American Medicine Today.
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