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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Billy Cunningham, the Great America, and welcome this Friday afternoon
in the Tri State Reds Baseball hot as a firecracker.
Maybe they'll maybe they'll catch these Chicago Cubs. Maybe not.
The Rocks are in town for the next three in
the Rock Stink. They're like seventy five games under five hundred.
The Reds win two or three or three or three.
They're going to march for glory and for some the
judgment Seat of God coming up later as an expert
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on Antifa and what they're doing to finance the chaos
in America. But until then, Ali Bradley is a top
reporter in the nation relative to a border issue. She's
headquartered in Del Rio, Texas. She's been there for a
long time for the good times in the bed and
Ali Bradley, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
first of all, there's chaos in Texas because of the flooding,
but also there's a lack of chaos on the southern border.
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I see a posting you had on News Nation. Border
crossings have dropped following target and enforcement in Los Angeles,
an effort that sparked protests and federalization the state's National Guard,
and I see earlier today. I saw this video on
Wednesday and Thursday out of ICE facilities, which is totally ridiculous. So,
just in general, since you've been there for the good
times in the bed, what is the status of the
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Southern border as I speak?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, hi, sir, thanks for having me. So the Southern border,
as you mentioned, the crossings have plummeted. I mean, agents
down here are essentially bored right now because there's so
many of them that are down here, but there's nobody
crossing right We're seeing on average around two hundred crossings
a day if that. Now, when we talk about the
La riots and the things that broke out there, we
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started seeing that interior enforcement really ramp up around June
seventh and eighth, and then when you look at June eighth,
they're around two hundred and seventy crossings. Sost forward to
June twentieth, plummeted to one hundred in a single day,
all across the Southern border. So the chiefs down there,
who's running operations on the ground, he's attributing it to
their presence and the consequences that come with that. He says,
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you know, migrants aren't going to pay the cartel, you know,
three to five thousand dollars to come here to hide
in the shadows, to just be removed ultimately anyways. And
so when you look at those situations and what are
they going to do, come here to work at a
home depot. No, that's not going to work because look
what they're doing in La at the home depots, right
So they're not cross they're not paying the cartel to
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cross right now because it doesn't benefit them because if
they come into the country illegally, they're likely going to
be removed. That's at least what the chief on the
ground is saying, is the reason for these crossings, this
new downward trend, because we've seen the downward trend since
President Trump took office. Right We saw the downward trend
begin at the end of the Biden administration because they
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basically hadn't about face and started actually kind of bringing
consequences at the southern border. But then the current president
of course doubling down, ramping up those deportation efforts. And
so that's what they are attributing right now to the
newest downward trend that we're seeing. When we look at
July eighth compared to June eighth, about one hundred crossings
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difference there from two hundred and seventy to around one
hundred and seventy. So that's what we're looking at, and
that's you know, those are statistics, right, Probably I don't
believe in coincidence. I don't think that you're a coincidence
guy either. So you see, you know, you see actions
and then you see something you know, cause and effect,
and that's what they're attributing this latest decline. But when
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you talk about Texas, right, I mean, yes, everybody's focusing
on the flooding. But remember on the fourth of July,
there was a violent attack where an agent was hurt.
Then fast forward a couple of days another violent attack
at a McCallan Border Patrol station where two local police
were injured, and then a Border patrol employee was injured.
And so maybe you don't have crossings right now, but
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there's certainly not a shortage of wark right now for
these agents and officers on the ground down here, because
they are still seeing issues and that might not be
by way of border crossers, right it might be by
way of attacks that are happening towards them, were at them,
and you know, the chief when I spoke with him,
he's saying that he attributes that to the negative rhetoric
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that we're hearing from lawmakers from you know, even the
vice mayor down there in California and one of the
cities had called for basically gang members to assemble against
ice and federal agents that are down there. And so
there's a lot that they're still doing, and there's a
lot that they're working on. But the reality here, Bill is,
you know, there's not a story at the border. A
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border patrol can do their job because they've been around
for one hundred years because people have always tried to
get into the country. So as long as they're able
to actually stop those individuals who are trying to come
into the country illegally, there's not really a story down here.
Every state is a border state, is what we said
for the last four years, and now it's what we're seeing.
So the work is now in the interior.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
The businesses was good for the cartels. Some of the
numbers are off the charts. We're talking billions and billions
of dollars made by the three or four Sinelo et cetera.
Ten de Ragua billions of dollars every year in three
to five one thousand dollars each. If you couldn't pay
with cash, you paid with your body or working in
burglary gangs. And that's now gone. And so how does
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when you lose a lot of business and you're a
member of the cartel, thousands of members of the cartel,
and Trump has cost them billions of dollars in business,
are they trying to regroup that through other means?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah? So right now we're seeing a couple of new
tunnels pop up, We're seeing some other smuggling routes. But
what's interesting is we haven't seen smuggling ramp up to
a level that's unmanageable yet. Right we haven't seen more
vehicle pursuits. We haven't seen things like that. But if
history is repeats itself, which is what we've seen, we
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know that it takes months for the cartel to pivot.
Think about Title forty two ending in May of twenty
twenty three. It took nearly six months for them to pivot.
And then what happened in December of twenty twenty three,
record breaking month, over three hundred and two thousand people
crossed into the country that month, so it always takes
time for them to figure out how we're enforcing the law.
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So right now, what people believe down here on the
ground is it's not if, but when they're going to
make a move, what that move is, they're waiting. They
don't know what that move looks like. I mean, there
was one post incident report recently that was a learning
agents of a potential for thirty five Iranian nationals to
move through the southern border with the help of the
Sinaloa cartel, and that has not materialized. I know that
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border patrol is basically shoulder to shoulder at the border
in that area where they were anticipated to cross, so
they never got, you know, thirty five individuals having crossed over.
So they are out there preventing those things from happening.
They're preventing the cartel from having success, and so it
will be interesting to see the moves that they make,
because yeah, you're right, they were making thirteen billion dollars
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a year moving people into the country illegally. That doesn't
even account for the drug money that they were making.
That's according to Congress. And so if you're young guys,
and you've got a taste of thirteen billion dollars a year,
you think you're just giving up. Probably not. No one
believes down here that the cartel are done, that they
just gave up. So everybody is at the ready. Everybody
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is waiting to see what that will look like. They
anticipate it to be more creative smuggling tactics, semi trucks,
things like that. You'll remember we had a tragedy back
in twenty twenty three. I believe it was in San
Anton where dozens of people died in a hot trailer.
And so that is something that we could see ramping
up again. They don't know where. We're just sitting and
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waiting to see what the cartel is going to do.
But again, nobody believes that they just gave up.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, and when you talk about in one month under
Joe Biden, three hundred and two thousand came in one month,
dispersed all over the country. That's the population of Cincinnati, Ohio.
And that's in one month. And now the numbers down
to one hundred, from three hundred and two thousand to
one hundred, is that right?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, the numbers down, the numbers down to six thousand
for the entire month, but we're only seeing about one
hundred to two hundred a day. And I mean looking
like the San Diego sector, which was one of the
pre premiere sectors for seeing border crossings, was one of
the top sectors during the Biden administration for that activity.
And there's been days, Bill, I'm looking at the numbers.
There were days when they saw five individuals cross in
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a day, just five, and they have seen thousands, right,
and so yeah, that's the juxtaposition of where they're at.
You know, the Del Rio sector, they were seeing thousands
at one point. Some days they see twelve, you know,
or fewer. And so in Del Rio sector, that's where
Eagle passes, that's where the Haitian crisis was, right, so
you remember those things. Now we're seeing twelve people and
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so it's certainly changed. But yeah, around six thousand and
seventy for the month of June when compared to three
hundred and two thousand for the month of December and
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And you talk about the migrants that are murdered and
killed because of the policies of Joe Biden. You talk
about the boys and girls sold into sexual slavery under
Joe Biden. You talk about the importation of fens and ol,
heroin and drugs under Joe Biden. And I saw about
a month ago a headline in the Washington Post that
sentinel deaths in America have plummeted and they can't figure
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out why. Canally Bradley put a sharper point as to
why that happened today.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, when you have more individuals watching for fentanyl, you
have more resources stopping the drug from coming in. You
have less people dying from it, right, so you have
more of the drugs being stopped before it gets into
the hands of Americans. And that's what the Trump administration
is touting right now, saying that they're seizing the drugs
instead of it making it into the United States because
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they have the resources to stop it. I mean, I
was tracking it at one point where there were forty
three million pills in the Nogallas Port of Entry in
twenty twenty three alone, and that's the Nogallas Port of
Entry didn't even include San Diego, which rivaled Nogalls. So
around forty two million pills over in San Diego. And
you have to consider that the cartel is a profit
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and lost business. So what sheriffs and law enforcement down
the border told me is that they were willing to
lose ten to twelve percent of their their profit. Right,
so you look at you know, over eighty million pills
between two sectors and twenty twenty three alone, and that
was ten to twelve percent of their business. So you know,
I understand that the Trump administration is stopping more drugs.
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I understand fewer people are dying, but my question is
where are the drugs coming in? Because you know that
they're still there's still a market for it. You know,
the cartel is still moving something. So did they move
it all under the Biden administration. It's in the United
States already and they're just waiting for their move. But
here's the other thing. They don't profit off of dead clients,
and everyone's dying off of fetanyl. So the other thing
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is they pivoted a little bit too back to methamfetain
and cocaine because the market is there. United States citizens
want drugs. They want met they want cocaine, they're willing
to buy it. They want feentanyl too, right, but they're
dying off of it. So the cartel's not making money
hand over fist off of the people that die from it.
So those are a couple of the points of why
we're seeing fewer people die from fentanyl.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Had a comment from you. You're the expert on the
subject matter to see why something is occurring during the
Obama years, and you weren't down in Texas. During the
Obama years, from say twenty nine to January of twenty seventeen,
Obama was the deporter in chief. Some of the numbers
I saw between three and five million illegals were deported
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under Barack Hussein. Obama three to five million, and according
to known records of immigration it's about three point two.
Another two million were a self deport that they believe.
So the deporter in chief, without question, in American history
was President Obama because he enforced the law. The comments
he made as president in twenty nine to twenty ten,
Obama sounds like Donald Trump today. I've played him before
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that Obama Clinton was no different than the comments of
Donald Trump today. He was the deporter in chief. But
there were no sanctuary cities, there were no sanctuary states.
In fact, the Democratic Party largely laid down and played
dead when Obama simply enforced the law, and one of
his top guys was a guy named Tom Homan. Homan
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worked for Obama and deported three to five million without
media coverage, without these cities and rebellion, without assaulting ICE officials,
without surrounding ICE agents doing their job in the FBI.
How this is kind of a value judgment and maybe
outside of the area of expertise. But how come during
Obama there were millions more deported than under Trump. But
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under Trump the Democratic Party is in rebellion, including this
vice mayor, including Karen bass La mayor who gets around
the ICE facilities, don't don't let the cars leave in
the morning out of their lots. How Come under Obama
the Democratic Party was with the deportation, there were no
sanctuary cities, and now all hell's breaking loose by the
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same Democratic Party and Obama numbers are well beyond Donald Trump's.
Trump's numbers aren't even close. So why is there such
a rebellion?
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, and you have to consider just how much in
the gration policy has changed or hasn't changed, rather from
Obama to now right, and the attention that has been
put on it, because heck, everyone is arguing about social
security under Obama, you can't do that anymore. So both
sides want the problem of immigration more than they want
the solution. That's one number two. You have a policy.
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You have a president right now who wants eyeballs on
this problem. He wants publicity on this problem. He promised
the largest deportation effort that we have seen, so he
wants to deliver that. So is that part of their
demise here, because again, Obama did it very quietly. My
sister worked at a facility that was basically an assembly line, right,
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and she called my mom crying, saying her friends were
being ripped out of their job, right, because that was
happening under Obama too, And that's what's happening right now, right.
But the thing is, under Obama, they did it very quietly.
They didn't do it publicized, they didn't do it with
bells and whistles. And now you've got a president who's saying,
look at what we're doing. Look at this bad guy
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that we arrested. Look at this bad guy that we arrested.
So if the good comes the bad, when you want
to publicize something, everything's public then. And so that's what
I believe is causing a lot of this is the
publicity of it, and then you have the roundabout way
that the docsing is happening in all of these different
things with these agitators, right, But you don't get one
without the other. So if they were doing it more quietly,
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possibly would it be look the same. I don't know,
because right now, again they want the eyeballs on this.
They want America to see what they're doing, very stark
contrast to what the Obama administration did.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Well, you brought up a great point. They want the problem,
not a solution. So the Democrats under Obama had the
perfect example, the perfect way to completely reform illegal immigration.
You could have the so called dreamers, you could have
a work permits expanded, you could have better border security.
But the Democrats realize, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
They could have done that under Biden because they controlled
Congress for the first two years, as.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You know, Yeah, and they did.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
They could have reworked immigration, they could have allowed people
to come in and seek asylum on economic grounds. They
could have done a myriad of things. But they didn't,
and a lot of people forget that as well.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, Biden had on Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer the first
two years happy days. You're here again. The last thing
they touched was immigration because they had a policy of
not enforcing the law. They didn'tone change the law, having
believed they're never going to be another Republican president. By
the way, there's going to be a Democratic president at
some point in their future. That's going to happen too.
It goes back and forth, and so it's amazing to
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me that the problem is good for each parties. The
solution is not. And Ali Bradley, we got to run.
But you're the best of this. And I have hoped
that maybe you'll be out of a job soon and
that there'll be no legal immigration in the country in
del Rio. You'll be somewhere else reporting, But this has
been your life's work. And yeah, once again, thanks for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and Ali Bradley News Nation.
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You're a great American. Thank you very much, Thank.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
You, sir, and God bless you.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
We'll talk soon, and God bless America. Thank you. There's
the answer. Each party, but especially the Democrats, they want
the problem. They don't want a solution because the problem
benefits them, they think politically. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham, News
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