7-18-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie talks with Commonwealth Attorney Rob Sanders about the ICE protest on the Roebling Suspension Bridge yesterday. Also Michael McDonald of the Catholic League asks why a terrorist sympathizer is allowed to teach at a prestigious Catholic University. Finally Ashley Banfield asks 3 unanswered questions about the Epstein files.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
My billy counting in the Great American. Welcome this Friday
afternoon in the Tri state rech Baseball get back out
of tonight in New York against the Metropolitans. Coverage begins
about six oh five tonight, the last time. I'm doing
my duty as a Great American watching bright Barts and
other left wing websites, and I'm getting text from friends
of mine in Covington saying, you can't believe what's happening

(00:27):
on the suspension bridge. And so I tried to get
some video Facebook, et cetera. Couldn't locate a lot, and
then I find out at ten o'clock news at all
Hell broke loose. There was a protest. There were two
dueling protests yesterday. One was the July seventeenth issue relative
to a twenty first relative to the death of John Lewis.

(00:47):
The other one was to free the e Mom. Free
the e Mom that's in the Butler County jail. And
so at one point the one freeing the emon said,
let's let the people of Kentucky know what our viewpoint is.
So they marched from from the riverbanks in front of
the suspension bridge and they marched over the bridge in
mass some one to two hundred people singing we shall overcome,

(01:10):
mainly white old females who listen to NPR and a
bunch of younger females with purple hair, and they discover
that the laws in Covington shutting down public thoroughfares are
not quite the same as shutting down thoroughfares in the
city of Cincinnati. Joining you and I now, as Rob Sanders,
Kent County Prosecutor. First of all, if you can, Rob,
tell us what happened last night about between eight and

(01:32):
nine pm on the suspension bridge with these well intended
NPR listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Willie, I think you said it best when you said
all hell broke clues, apparently because I.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Don't know who this emam is.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I don't know that he's ever even set foot in Kentucky,
or what this protest about the Butler County Jail and
our good friend Sheriff Jones out there, what that has
to do with us on the south side of the
river or the Covington riverfront, or the Covington police or
anything that these protesters tried to involve in their demonstration.

(02:04):
But what I do know is that they were blocking
down or blocking all of the traffic lanes on the
suspension bridge, which of course is the state route as
Kentucky seventeen. It's a highly traveled roadway. This was not
in the middle of the night, of the cover of
darkness or anything like that. This is while people were
up and about and still doing business and trying to

(02:26):
get back and forth across the Ohio River, and here
they're trying to shut it down, I guess is some
form of civil disobedience. But part of the problem with
civil disobedience is when you start breaking laws. At least
in Kentucky, we enforce those laws. And so fifteen people,
at least fifteen people that I'm aware of, were arrested

(02:46):
and charged with an array of offenses for everything from
assaulting police officers to criminal mischief, to.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Trespass, to failure to disperse.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
To rioting, which is a felony in Kentucky, Willie. It
carries a possible and sentence of one to five years.
And they sent me the arrest citations today. And I'm
sure this will shock you, but out of the fifteen
people that are charged with riot first degree felony, only thirteen,

(03:15):
or I should say only two were from Kentucky. The
other thirteen were from Ohio or Indiana. We've got one
from Rising Sun, Indiana, twelve from Ohio, everywhere, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati,
a couple more Cincinnatis, Brooksville, Ohio, wherever that is, another Cincinnati,

(03:37):
and Cleveland Heights, Ohio, which I assume is in Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
But that's an awfully long way.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
You know, two people drove all the way down from
Cleveland to Cincinnati just to come march around Covington and
trying to shut down our bridges just to get arrested.
It's a very expensive form of protests when you have
to go out and hire yourself criminal defense attorneys to
defend you on a felony riot charge and hope that
they keep you out of prison. It seems to me

(04:04):
that it would have been much more advisable to just
hold the protest on the sidewalk him, march around, protest
all you want, shout whatever it is you want, hold
your signs, wave them around. That's fine, you can do
all that stuff. We believe in the First Amendments, but
we don't believe in shutting down bridges.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
All right now, I understand from media accounts there were
injuries to the police in northern Kentucky, which is a
different part of the tri State than the city of Cincinnati.
The idea of fighting with cops on bridges, it can
be extremely dangerous. What damages injuries, if any, did the
police suffer.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Fortunately, Willie, I believe the injuries to the police officers
were minor. I think we've got some cuts and bruises
and scrapes. I do see some photographs of some bloody elbows,
bloody knees, bloody hands, but minor injuries. Fortunately, I'm not
aware of any off that was seriously injured, nor am

(05:01):
I aware of any protester that was seriously injured. But
you know, when you're doing this stuff on a bridge,
it really raises the level or the intensity of the confrontation. Because,
as you well know, as we've discussed many times, the
only Covington police officer to die in the line of
duty in my lifetime, thank god, there was only one.

(05:23):
But the one was Michael Parton, who of course fell
from a bridge to his death in January fourth, some
twenty six years ago, I believe, but that's still fresh
in the minds of I think all the police in
northern Kentucky, and they're very aware of how dangerous it
is to be pursuing criminals, are dealing with criminals, they're

(05:44):
tussling or otherwise fighting with criminals on a bridge because
you know, I don't know, if you watch the videos,
some of those cops aren't that big. They're just they're
not They're doing a heck of a job dealing with
some people that are much larger than they are. Some
of these cops, you know, they got to be concerned
about whether or not they're going to be tossed over

(06:04):
the bridge. I know, I've seen video of at least
one guy hugging the bridge rail for dear life, and
the police are having to deal with him right there
over top of the water. I know that there was
a police gear that went missing in the struggles. There
were personal property of police officers, watches and things of
that nature that were lost or damaged or destroyed. Some

(06:25):
of that stuff is believed to have fallen in the
river during struggles with these protesters. You know, it's understandably
a very tense situation for police officers when they're so
many stories up above the Ohio River and I don't
think anybody can reasonably assume that they will survive a
fall from that height, much less into the water. And

(06:47):
there's no reason that anybody should be up there protesting,
much less fighting with.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
The police above the water.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
It seems I don't know what it is about that
suspension bridge, Willy, but first we got people hanging banners
from it and forcing our police and our firemen to
go up there and take those down and deal with them.
And now we got people, you know, wanting to engage
in riots up there. So I've had enough with the
bridges and the crimes on the bridges and people fighting
with the police.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
On the bridges.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
They need to find a better place to hold their protests,
preferably on the north side of the river.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
You know, Rob Sanders on Channel five, they had this
older white woman. She was in her seventies. She was skinny.
Most of the protesters are morbidly obese, but that's a
different issue. Looked like the marshmallow manner, and when this
one woman had to weigh three hundred pounds, But this
particular one was saying, you know, I didn't do anything wrong.
I'm just exercising my rights, and a coving to police.

(07:35):
Officer picked me up and slammed me to the pavement,
took away my dignity. And all I'm doing is trying
to exercise my rights and coming to police. Wouldn't let
me do it? What you're coming to her.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, yeah, she's in the middle of the road, Willie.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
You know, you have a right to protest, you have
a right to freedom of speech, but you don't have
a right to shut down our bridges. And that's everything
that I've seen so far, at least started in the
middle of the roadway with the Comington police trying to
clear the roadway so that people can get across the bridges.
It's dangerous. It's dangerous for the protesters, it's dangerous for

(08:13):
the motorists, it's dangerous for the police. It's just not
something that should have been happening in the first place.
And so I'm disappointed that anybody felt it necessary to
provoke this confrontation, which is what I believe these protesters
were intentionally doing, is trying to provoke a confrontation with police.

(08:34):
That's the only thing that can result from shutting down
a bridge on a state route, and I think you
would get the result no matter which bridge you try
and shut down, but certainly one is highly traveled as
the Suspension bridge with.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
All those holes in it.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
You know, anybody that's walked across the river to go
to the Reds game, or and go to the Bengals game,
or coming back over to visit one of our fine
establishments on the south side of the river, Willie, which
I know you like to frequent and hang out at.
Anybody who's walked across that bridge knows that there's all
sorts of gaps and holes in that bridge. And then
the last thing any police officer wants to be doing
is rolling around in tussling with unruly and uncooperative dissobeion

(09:12):
the criminals up there not following police lawful orders to
disperse and get out of the roadway.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
You know what happened. Lieutenant pack Cayton, who I know well,
was on the air Channel nine last night saying, well,
we've issued two or three paper citations and basically those
are going to be dismissed. As soon as they get
to a court in Hambling County, they'll be dismissed. The
protesters have regularly gone to I seventy five in the

(09:39):
city of Cincinnati to shut down I seventy five, and
when that happens, guess what. Nothing happens. After the George
Floyd riots, nothing happened. In twenty oh one, the riots,
nothing happened. All the charges are dismissed. Do you look
forward to dismissing the charges in Covington, Kentucky?

Speaker 3 (09:58):
No, Willie. You know it's funny.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I've gotten the number of different emails already, mostly from
news outlets, asking me if I plan to dismiss the charges,
and I'm like, obviously, you folks don't pay much attention
to crime in Kenton County because we're going to collect
the evidence.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
We're going to review the evidence.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I have over fifty eight body camera videos just from
the Covington officers alone, Willie, and that's before we start
adding in all the other police agencies from Kenton and
Campbell Counties. It responded, we pretty much stripped two counties
of all of our police coverage for the all call
of the officer needs assistants to get down to the
bridge and help get this situation under control. It's a

(10:32):
whole another issue about stripping.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Police protective from other law.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Abiding citizens all across two counties. But nevertheless, know we
plan to collect the evidence, review all the body camera videos.
If we have a case, we have charges that we
can prove the criminal accident, anyone committed, they will be prosecuted.
It's how we do business over here. It's how I
think every citizen has a right to expect that the

(10:56):
government that they pay for through the tax dollars will
conduct themselves and upholding the law and enforcing the law
that has been duly passed by our legislatures. I don't
know why people live in a community that would do
anything else.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Well, I look at the demographics. I look at the population.
If you take Boone, Kenton, and Campbell County, the population
is about a little less than three hundred thousand, which
is the population of the city of Cincinnati, and Hamilton
County is going to completely woke to the left. So
you have three communities northern Kentucky about the size of
the city. If you add in the communities in southeast
Indiana and those that border Hamilton County, which would be

(11:33):
Claremont County and Warren County. In Butler County, you have
this little enclave in the middle where the law doesn't apply,
in which there's lax law enforcement. We lease down the
city streets, open air smoking, marijuana, non enforcement or curfew
laws for teenagers, non enforcement of truancy laws. Twenty five

(11:55):
percent of the kids at CPS don't show up for
school on any particular day. So you have this one
little island floating in the middle of a sea of red.
And I can't think of another city in America where
on one side of the river you have woke progressivism.
You have in the city of Cincinnati, a sanctuary city
in which the law doesn't apply, the police are demoralized,

(12:16):
the school stink. In the city of Cincinnati, there's massive
lawlessness ignored. And you go a quarter of a mile
away the Ohio River, and all of a sudden you're
in the land of Rob Sanders Kenton County. You're in
the land of Butler County, or Claremont County or Warren County,
David Foreignschell or South heast Indiana. God help you if

(12:36):
you're caught with marijuana in Dearborn, Indiana. It's a serious matter.
So what advice would you provide to the activists, to
the progressives, to the city beat crowd, to the NPR crowd,
to the purple hair and nosering crowd. When it comes
to committing crime, should you stay in the city of
Cincinnati and not venture out?

Speaker 3 (12:56):
It surely seems like a good idea.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Will you know, when you start across the bridges and
you see the big sign and says welcome to the Bluegrass,
they should know that. I don't even know that you
caught the old fashioned way. We do things the common
sense way. We just enforced the laws that we have
on the books, and we expect everybody that's wandered into
Artists State to do the same thing, to abide by
those laws that are on the books. We're not asking

(13:20):
anybody to do anything special except just behave yourselves. What
they choose to do on the north side of the river,
that's their business. But if once you come on the bridge,
if you look down and you're over top the water,
chances are you were now in Kentucky and you can
count on being prosecuted for any criminal offense that you
can fit commit. Novel concept, I'm sure. But you know

(13:42):
one thing I will mention Willy that was really alarming
about this is so this protest, from what I'm told,
started with a much smaller group of people coming across
the bridge and shutting the bridge down. And when the
police showed up to tell them to get on the sidewalk,
because they weren't there to arrest everybody were off the bat,
they were there to tell them to get on the sidewalk.
That group of people started radioing back to a larger

(14:02):
group still on the Cincinnati side and radio to them
and say, you know, I guess we've done it, or
the police are here, that's what we're looking for.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
I don't know, but it's like, hey, the police are here.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
So instead of all those people going, well, I'm not
going over there because they've already got the police to
show up and so I don't want any part of
that now, they came running in and created a much
bigger problem, adding to the problem with dozens, if not
hundreds of more people on the bridge blocking the traffic in.
It only escalated the situation. But the coordination between those
people that claim that they're just exercising their rights to

(14:39):
radio over to bring in more people to assist them
and breaking the laws especially problematic, and I think that's
probably a big contributing factor as to why the Comington
police chose to go with a riot charge is because
of that coordination. In Kentucky, it only takes five people
to be involved in criminal conduct for it to be
a ryan. But when you have coordination between dozens or

(15:02):
hundreds of people breaking the law, that creates a very serious,
very dangerous situation for police officers. You know, we trust them,
We asked them, and we trust them to uphold the law,
enforce and.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Keep our community safe.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know, the kind of community that we enjoy on
the south side of the river, and when people put
their lives at risk, we take that very seriously.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
And lastly, Rob Sanders, I would imagine the dozens of
Covington and Kentucky police that came to assist Officer of
Needs assistants get here. Now, there were many communities in
northern Kentucky left bear in which case law enforcement didn't exist.
And I can specifically recall in the late nineteen nineties
that the body of Officer Michael Parton was not located
for many weeks because it was it was the river

(15:43):
was very cold, almost in a frozen condition, and the
sadness in northern Kentucky and elsewhere that this officer was
pursuing someone who should not have been on the bridge
and that he flipped over and ended up in the
river and died and his body wasn't located for a
long period of time. This exacerbate at the conflicts for
someone who thinks this emom needs special protection and special protests.

(16:04):
Do it in Cincinnati, the charges will be dismissed. You
can walk on I seventy five with impunity, smoke your pot,
do what you gotta do, do the wheelies around Fountain Square,
no big deal. Do it in Covington doesn't apply. And
I think the message has got to be sent to
law enforcement in the surrounding counties will seriously maintain statutes
and laws that are going to be and if these

(16:25):
charges indicated, an indictment is necessary. These fifteen or so
people are facing hard time in prison, not a paper
charge dismissed by a liberal magistrate. Well, Rob Sanders, thank you.
We'll see what happens down the road. Are these individuals
out on bond, you know? Are they bonded out yet?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Well, Willie, they all just appeared in our district court
for arraignment at eight thirty this morning, and at that
time the judge would have set bond.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
For each one of them. Each one of them's cases are.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Individual and they get individual bond reviews, so every one
of them's got a different bond amount. I'm going to
wait probably a couple more hours here before I get
on the jails website to see how many of them
actually we're able to post that bond. So right now,
it's just I haven't taken the time to get on
the website and look up all fifteen defendants to see
who's in and who's out. But I suspect that there

(17:13):
will probably be several who were unable to make bond,
if any of them make bond at all.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
All right, good, well, the message is sent. Do your
crimes in Cincinnati, not much consequence. Do your crimes in Covington,
A big consequence. Message has been sent. Hopefully the NPR crowd,
the old white women from Hyde Park, they want to
feel as if their miserable lives have importance. Hopefully the
message will be received. Commit your crimes in Cincinnati, don't
commit them in Covington, my hometown. Rob Sanders, thank you

(17:39):
very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Thank you, Ron, my pleasure, WILLI and Hay about every
police agency in northern Kentucky is hiring right now. So
if any of those good officers on the north side
of the river retired to work in someplace that just
calls for written tickets and dismissed cases, come on over here,
put your applications in.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
We'd be happy to have more good officers.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
God bless America. Rob Sanders, thank you very much. Let's
continue with more. There's a lot of new sheriff in town.
It's the old sheriff. The idea that a liberal, progressive
woke sanctuary city. It's a quarter of a mile from
law enforcement across the river. You're warned. Bill Cunningham, News
Radio seven hundreds WLW. All right, hit the music, gave

(18:24):
a little segue. Course Tonight, reds Baseball kicks off about
six five. The Red Lakes have sixty five games left.
According to the experts like Moeger. They tell me the
Red Lakes have to win about thirty five of the
sixty five to get to the playoffs, probably not to
visional champ, maybe a wild card. See what happens tonight
later on. Secondly, I've reviewed my memory banks and I

(18:48):
can't recall in America a city which is so blue,
so progressive, so liberal, and so sanctuary type exists a
quarter of a mile from a city in a county
where laws enforced. I thought about Atlanta. Maybe even the
counties around Atlanta tend to be blue. But the more

(19:13):
Cincinnati does what Cincinnati does, the more people get the
hell out and move to Claremont County, Dearborn County, Boone
County for a better way of life, black, white, and otherwise.
They don't want to deal with the mayhem in the
city of Cincinnati. Last night they were dueling protests. One
was John Lewis's comment about good trouble and there were

(19:35):
some individuals and individuals getting together to let their voice
be heard about Donald Trump, as if we need to
hear it. And the other group was the Imam Solomon
who's locked up in the Butler County jail compliments of
Richard K. Jones, and I guess he is a hearing
coming up in about a week. He was linked to
the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a terrorist group out of Egypt,

(19:58):
and so there was an indication that he may be
denied further ability to live inside of America because of
that connection. I don't know if that's true or not.
If Solomon goes or stays not going to change my
life much at all, it pears to have conducted himself
quite well. While here, of course, they have to be
here legally, but that's a different issue. So in Cincinnati,

(20:20):
if you want to do wheelies up and down Vine Street, openly,
smoke pot, sell drugs, use drugs on city streets, they'll
look at Saint Francis Serif. If you want to be
truant from school, or if you want to break curfew
as a teenager, it's no big deal. In fact, all
you have to do is get a hold of the

(20:41):
police and tell them we have a group of one
to three hundred coming to eight to one Plum Street
last night, for example. And the police without permits will
simply shut down ninth Court Street and eight to one
Plum and citizens can't drive cars, and you simply stand
there and yell, holler and shout until your horse. Then
you go home with their silly signs, and away you go.

(21:05):
There's a permit system to have a parade or a
gathering that the City of Cincinnati routinely ignores. The permit
guide would involve route you're going to take, how many
people are going to show up. If it's a private event,
will you provide your own security through off duty police.
There's a way to do it. One is the begin

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one is an end. It's not driven by content. The
city doesn't decide whether the content is good or bad,
but rather the way, manner, and the method of your
so called protest or demonstration. Well, we've gotten rid of that.
You simply show up where you want to show up,
shut down city streets, willy nilly, and shout your silly slogans,

(21:46):
who streets our streets? Yeay yay, yay yay, and away
you go. City ignores the law. And on ken Kober
the other day, and I talked about how come cops
do not enforce criminal statutes such as the curfew violations
or openly smoking marijuana or truant see of one type

(22:07):
or another and fornicating in public or urinating against buildings,
and he said they received no support from the city administration.
In fact, they're told not to enforce so called lifestyle
changes because they're not supported. And the cops are not
going to put his coynes on the line to enforce
criminal statutes if his employer will not back them up.

(22:32):
So as a consequence, Slowly but surely, the broken window
theory works, and there's a creep of lawlessness in the
city of Cincinnati, including the ability of juveniles to get
out of Juvi jail having shot somebody in the back
of the head. The magistrates, the judges carry bloom and
others or magistrate and need a birding, and common police

(22:54):
courts simply release vicious attempted murderers and drug dealers, et cetera,
because they have a theory that open up the jails
and get it done. The police tell me that many
times they arrest the criminal wrongdoers and the criminals are
out of jail before they complete the paperwork. I refer
to Murdecai Black and the murder of Patrick Hamlinger. Look

(23:14):
what happened to him. That's the way things are. But
someone needs to tell the professional agitators, the professional protesters,
the nosering crowd, that that's okay in the city of Cincinnati.
By the way, it's not okay in Sycamore Township, not
okay in Green Township or Anderson Township, Ohkorran Township. But

(23:34):
it's okay in the city of Cincinnati. In many parts
of Hamleton County, ignore the law violated. Who streets our streets? Yay, yay, yay,
and away you go. So some clown in and around
the Underground Railroad Museum said, let's march over to Covington
and let the good folks of Covington know how we
feel about the IMAM. And so, as Rob Sanders just said,

(23:58):
a small group came stayed on the side walk, which
is fine. That's public space to be used for pedestrians.
And this public space if you want to use it
in a certain way, if you want to quote, protest something.
But when large numbers shut down city and state streets
without permits, putting it risk the goodliness of those who

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want to travel back and forth over the Robling Suspension Bridge,
you know what, that's a problem. You can't do it.
And so you heard from Rob Sanders that those who
committed such things five or more it's called aggravated rioting.
And guess what, go to prison one to five years.
Now that means I don't know if these are first

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time offenders, but I assume they are because they're well intended.
Simply they're thinking with the left side of their brain,
not the right side of their brain. That there's serious
consequences in the Bluegrass State when you commit crime. That's
not the case in the city of Cincinnati or Hamlet County.
We made that decision. We made the decision. I guess
the voters did not to enforce criminal statutes in the

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city of Cincinnati or Hamilton County. That is not the
case in Campbell, Boone, or Kenton or the counties that
surround Hamilton County. The same number of people live in Boone,
Kenton and Campbell that live about in the city of Cincinnati,
and there's a different not different rules the laws are enforced.
I would anticipate that Hamilton County or Chalaizada, State of

(25:25):
Ohio has the same laws basically as the laws in
northern Kentucky about aggragator riding and obstruction of justice and
us sought on the police officer that kind of stuff,
but in our jurisdiction. I watched Lieutenant Patrick Cayton last
NIME on Channel five simply say well, we handed out
some paper citations, let them go for violating the law.

(25:48):
And Covington, that doesn't work. And part of it is
they want to send a message to keep your stupidity
on the North side of the river, not the south.
But the other part is when you talk about Officer
Martin in Covington who was chasing a criminal and he
fell off the bridge and ended up down river dead
body recovered weeks later. The Covington police are extremely sensitive

(26:11):
the idea of individuals committing crime on the bridge. This
is not a protester. I see some stories about the
city beat employees journalists are arrested. They weren't arrested because
they were journalists. According to Covington police. They were arrested
because they violated the criminal statutes. That's why they were arrested.
And the fact you're, quote a journalist doesn't give you

(26:34):
the ability to violate criminal statutes. So two journalists arrested
among the fifteen who were charged, and we'll see what happens.
I would think most are out on bond as I speak,
but we'll see the bonds twenty five hundred dollars next
appearance next week. And they're reviewing all the videotape from
all the cops to see who did what to who.

(26:55):
Police officers were injured, their lives were put at risk
because of the nearness of the water to the Roebling
suspension bridge. There's a way to do it, a way
not to do it. Staying on the sidewalk. There's two
sides of the there's two sidewalks, north and south. Walk
on the sidewalk, play your silly signs, yell howler and
shout who streets are streets, yay, and away you go.

(27:16):
When you break down law and order and walk on
state thoroughfares and city streets so the other citizens cannot
get about their business, that's a crime. And you can't
do it. In Cincinnati, you can do it. In Covington,
you can't do it. And when you venture out into
the surrounding counties, it is a deep red ocean with

(27:37):
a little blue sanctuary city floating in the middle like
an oyster cracker and a bed of skyline. Chill it
just a little bit where liberalism reigns, supreme progressivism. Sanctuary cities,
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no problem, clip cars parked, no problem. You can show up,
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(28:20):
that somewhere nearby the city of Cincinnati, then all hell's
going to break loose, and maybe these fifteen so called
rioters some call protesters, some call journalists from city be
will know there's a differential between Covington, where I was
born and Cincinnati, where I was raised. So let's continue
with more big show planned today. Later on, I've Ashley

(28:41):
Banfield of News Nation to talk about the Epstein file.
She did reporting last night. That's there's three major questions
unanswered about the Epstein suicide slash murder inside of his
jail cell, in which there's three to four minutes of
a tape that was missing, and according to analytics, the

(29:03):
tape taken the place of those three or four minutes
was devised in twenty twenty three. You might recall that
the so called seuside took place in August of twenty nineteen. Plus,
we have more on the difficulties of Donald Trump supposedly
sending a birthday greeting to Jeffrey Epstein in twenty three,

(29:25):
when Epstein turned fifty years old, and in this so
called birthday greeting was something that looked a little bit
amiss as far as the typical birthday greeting. I'm reading
what was in it. The drawing, allegedly from Donald Trump,
depicts a woman's breast and a Donald's signature in the
place of pubic hair, surrounded several lines of typewritten text.

(29:48):
According to The Wall Street Journal, which reviewed the letter
but didn't publish it, this is a birthday greeting from
the Donald to Jeffrey Epstein, allegedly included with the line
quote happy birthday, and may every day be another wonderful
secret quote unquote. So that Donald said false, don't publish it.
He spoke to Murdoch a few hours before publication, and

(30:11):
according to him, Murdoch said he wouldn't publish it. But
they did anyway. Now law suits will be filed. Donald
Trump denies vehemently sending a body obscene birthday greeting to
Jeffrey Epstein. What twenty two years ago? We continue, We
never stop, We simply continue. Up next is Michael McDonald
from the Catholic League about what's happening to universities in

(30:34):
America today. And after two o'clock is Ashley Banfield about
Epstein and Trump on news radio seven hundred WLW by
Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, lots has happened
in a lot is happening in Christianity and Catholicism, and

(30:56):
what's happening around the world. Hopefully there's a beacon of light.
These are special times of an American we have. The
Olympics are coming sadly to Los Angeles. God knows what
that's going to look like. Next year. The World Cup
is coming all over the North America sphere. We're gonna
have Mexicans, Americans and Canadians every which way. Also, we

(31:17):
have an American pope, which was impossible, Pope Leo the fourteenth.
There's that number again, Pete Rose, Pete Rose, Pope Leo
the fourteenth, Donald Trump, and the White House. So to me,
that's the Mount Rushmore of good events. Olympics, World Cup,
Pope Leo, and Donald Trump. But the Catholic League headquarter
in New York City has a column up about Georgetown University

(31:41):
Georgetown's Muslim problem, penned by Bill Donahue. One of his
great apostles and disciples is the great Michael McDonald. And
Michael McDonald, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Michael,
can you tell the American people about Georgetown which is
indicative of most Catholic education. I might add that's true
probably at Saint John's. I don't know about Catholic University

(32:03):
or Saint Louis. I don't know, Xavier, I don't know,
but speak about the Georgetown Muslim problem.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Hey, Bill, great to be with you again. And yes,
Georgetown is unfortunately one of the flagship Catholic universities in
this country, and they have pretty much fallen off of
anything that looks like anything resembling old school Catholicism. But yeah,
so they've got a professor there, Jonathan Brown, who's found

(32:33):
himself in a little bit of hot water. This week,
the interim president of Georgetown was testifying before Congress about
shockingly all of these anti Semitism things that are on
campus across the country and every single all these big
schools in New York, all across the country, and Georgetown

(32:54):
unfortunately is not immune to that. Actually, some of the
Catholic schools have been doing better on that front, but
Georgetown is following, unfortunately, the lead of all these secular,
you know, premier institutions and copying them, and we shouldn't
be surprised. So anyway, Jonathan Brown has been putting out
some hot takes and he got himself into trouble saying

(33:15):
that when Trump ordered the bombing over there and I
ran there, oh, he really hopes that I Ran responds
by bombing an American base, which you know, that's completely
ridiculous thing to say. Cares come out in his defense
because Jonathan Brown, the name doesn't sound but he's a
convert Islam. He's in charge of Islamic studies there. They've

(33:37):
come out. Karas come out in his defense. They counsel
on American Islamic Relations come out in his defense that
we just don't understand what he meant by that, that
that was actually something peaceful. Now, if you want to
say something peaceful, you could say something I don't know,
like I'm glad that I Ran isn't going to be
able to develop nuclear weapons to wipe Israel in America
off the face of the earth. That's something you could say,
And I sure hope they don't shoot back at us.

(33:59):
That's something you can say if you don't want to
see things get bigger. But this guy says, no, no,
they need they need the bomb on an American base. It's
ridiculous in that of Line and Bill Doon, And he
wrote a letter today you can see that on our website,
Catholic Lea dot org to the interim president of Georgetown
saying you gotta do something about this because this is
an academic freedom.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
In fact, whether it's Columbia or whether it's Brown, or
whether it's Saint John's or whether it's UCLA, extremism on
the left is acceptable. Moderate conservatism on the right is not.
Let me share with the American people what Professor Jonathan
Brown actually said, quote I am not an expert, but
I assume Iran could still get a bomb easily. I

(34:40):
hope Iran does some symbolic strike on a base. Then
everyone stops quote unquote, I would assume to get a
bomb doesn't refer necessarily to a bunker buster. It may
be a nuclear weapon. When you talk about a bomb,
that to me that the little article A means something.
And when that was issued, the President called him and said,
take that thing down immediately. He also Brown is the

(35:03):
son in law of convicted terrorist supporter Ala Ranian defended
Hamas and more than that, he said, quote Israel has
been engaged in a genocidal project for decades quote unquote.
And so the fact that this professor, maybe if you're
at Ohio State University or maybe University of Alabama, of
a great public, large university, you might have this kind

(35:26):
of hatred on the left, But to have it at
a Catholic university is that really the problem.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
That is a big part of the problem.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
And I mean it is a shame that Georgetown would
have a faculty on their staff that sounds like Elmo's
Twitter on Sunday. This is ridiculous that they would have
we go this far down the rabbit hole of trying
to be accepted by these secular elites, completely rejecting Catholic teaching,
bringing in a radical promoter of the craziest elements of

(35:59):
the extreme Islamic movement that says, you know, slavery is okay,
Rape's okay because you said things like that Bill has
in his book. You can see it in the column
on Catholic League dot org. Going into all of this
stuff that this crazy professor has said, and the University

(36:20):
of Georgetown just looks at and Sharston says, like, you
know what this this is? Okay, hey, come on, like
you should be better than that, Georgetown. The best thing
about your school can't be that Ed Cooley is your
basketball coach. I like Cooley when he is a providence
a little bit of a homer there, but that can't
be the best thing about it. You're supposed to be
one of the premier Catholic institutions in this country. I mean,

(36:41):
you're supposed to be right up there with Notre Dame,
right like everyone knows Notre Dame. Georgetown's supposed to, you know,
be in that vein. And instead of upholding the beautiful
tradition of higher Catholic education, instead you're just bringing in
these fringe wackos to promote these outlandish talking points that
are not only reprehensible but contrary to the teaching of

(37:03):
the church.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
And you're going to make.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Them in charge of the department. Hopefully they do something
about this or that. That's what we're calling for them
to do something about this, and hopefully action will be taken,
because this just should not be tolerated at a premier
Catholic institution in this country.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Michael McDonald of the Catholic League. Professor Jonathan Brown, among
other things, has said that he has publicly maintained that
slavery is okay provided in his ground in Islam. In
twenty seventeen, he said, quote, there is no such thing
as slavery in Islam until you realize that there's no
such thing as slavery, so slave and by the way,

(37:39):
the Arabs and Muslims were the main driving force of
the trans Atlantic slave trade. Islamic. Of course, the words
slave comes from slav and you look at the history.
Thomas sold did a great book on this that the
Arab Muslims do. Actually I don't know about today, but
for centuries they thought slavery was okay. In fact, they
thought slavery was mandated by the Holy Book, by the Quran.

(38:02):
And he's simply expressing what ISLAMI thought was also rape
and what happened on October the seventh, that that was
pursuing to the Holy Book the Quran. In fact, when
I watched some of the videos which I've done recently,
again they're sick. On October the seventh I see that
the Hamas and the Palestinian warriors are shouting Islamic phrases

(38:24):
as they rape children in Israel, and this professor says,
there's no such thing as rape, it's demanded by Islam,
no such thing as slavery. So how in the world
kin of Catholic University in the nation's capital hired this
guy for years to teach students about.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
What exactly to indoctrinate them. They somehow this woke support
for the Intifada is somehow acceptable. No, as Catholics, we
are called to uphold the truth.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Number one.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Number two, the point of academia is actually supposed to
be exploring the truth. There is no truth in any
of those statements. There is nothing that you can say, yeah,
you know what, that's that's grounded, that that's.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
A reasonable take the yeah, I'll entertain that, you know,
over drinks in the faculty lines. Come on, like, you
gotta be doing something that is actually advancing the minds
of young people, making them think deeper, learn more, holistically,
learn about the truth, get involved in the great academic

(39:31):
debates of our time. Fine, you know you want you
want to have a debate about a Middle East Policy Fund.
You can talk about that, but to say that, you
know what, it's it's okay that Hamas went in there
and killed over twelve thousand Israelis. That's a good thing. No,
you can't say that that.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
That's not advancing any sort of truth. There's no debate there,
that's not any sort of rational take. That's someone that
should be relegated to the fringest corners of the internet.
But somehow George sounds like, yeah, he can be in
charge of it academic department.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Come on, how would you respond, Michael McDonald to the argument, Well,
after all, this is the first Amendment, you have the
right under the first Amendment. I guess Georgetown receives a
lot of public money in one sense or another, not directly,
but indirectly. And therefore this Professor Jonathan Brown supported by
the most extreme elements of Islam. I might add, including care,
which has been designated as a terrorist organization. I believe

(40:25):
that somehow this is the first Amendment. This is college.
You have other viewpoints being expressed. This is something you
can pick up or discard. One can only imagine if
you're sitting in Professor Jonathan Brown's classes and you have
a different viewpoint what grade you would receive, But that's different.
But how do you respond to the argument. Everyone's got
the right to expression and the right to free speech.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Yeah, John Brown has Jonathan Brown absolutely has that right
of free speech. He does not have that right in
the classroom. Right if he wanted to go down to
the Verizon Center and rent the place at and have
his fringe kooky, we love radical islamis convention and talk

(41:07):
so the cows come home about how he thinks the
Maas is wonderful. That's one thing I wouldn't go. I
think most normal, sane people would try to avoid that,
like the plague.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
But he should be able to have that right. Or
if he wants to go.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Out to the National Mall and you know, rent some
space and have his little value there, fine, he can
do that. But the point of academia is you're supposed
to be teaching people the truth, not indoctrinating them to
this woke radical left nonsense. You're supposed to be teaching

(41:39):
them the truth, introducing them to the great debates of
our time, making them scholars, making them learn more so
that they are prepared to participate in public life. But no, Instead,
you're promoting this stuff which is contrary to the truth
and fundamentally runs against Catholic moral teaching. You should not
have the University of Georgetown as that platform. If you

(42:01):
want to say that stuff, knock yourself out, go out,
rent your own space, go to a free speech area.
But the point of the university is commitment to the truth,
and the point of a Catholic university is commitment to
the Catholic Church and the truth. And this guy is
running a foul on both of those things. And it

(42:21):
is a shame that he is allowed to work at Georgetown.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Well, he had a question and answer session a few
years ago, Professor Jonathan Brown, and he is the prophet
Mohammad owned slaves. During the question answer period that followed
his talk, he said the following me about the Islamic
prophet cloak, Mohammad had slaves. There's no denying that, and

(42:44):
so so what you must follow the example of Mohammad
by owning slaves. Now, you can only imagine in many
contexts in today's world, if elements of the African American community,
and certainly me and you included, would have someone being
paid large amounts of money at a great public university
advocating for the ownership of slaves in twenty twenty five.

(43:07):
In July twenty twenty five, we're gonna have Georgetown have
an advocate for slaves and the rape of children. That
might be a bridge too far. But until your column,
until and also a Congressman Alistafani got involved, this guy,
Professor Jonathan Brown, will still be still be I guess
he's still teaching at Georgetown. We'll see what happens in September.

(43:31):
But except for notifying Georgetown as to what this guy
has said and written, would he have no problems continuing
to teach at Georgetown?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Yeah, he probably would. I mean, this is actually very sad,
the lack of character in you. I'm very glad that
you're talking about this, but the outside of you and
a couple of other people in the media and not
even talking like mainstream mediately I'm talking more like closer
to the like minded fellow travelers to you, Bill, even

(44:01):
they're not really picking up on this. Off the Catholic
press is completely ignoring this, which which is a shame.
I think we might be the only you know, quote
unquote new Catholic news agency type thing that's that's saying
anything about this, but it needs to be said. You know,
if the donor class doesn't like it, if you know,
I will worry about the endowment and things like that.
I'm sorry. The truth has to mean something. The teachings

(44:25):
of the church have to mean something. Especially when you
are the one of the premier Catholic institutions in this country.
That should matter to you. Upholding sacred truth, sacred tradition
should matter, not just oh, we've got a crazy lefty,
uh fringe academic here as well, just like all.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
These other big schools.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
So please give us some of No, they can't be
they can't be our position. We have to uphold the
sacred traditions that have been handed down to us for generations,
whether people find it offensive or not.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Well, the care the Council of American Islamic Relations, declared
by many to be a supporter of terrorist organizations. In
a letter said the following, we urged Georgetown University to
immediately cease any investigation or discipline related to doctor Brown's tweet. Instead,
the university should affirm its commitment to protecting academic freedom,

(45:20):
resisting political intimidation, and standing with faculty members who have
dedicated their careers to the pursuit of knowledge, justice and dialogue.
Owning slaves and raping children? Is that the pursuit of knowledge,
justice and dialogue.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
See Yeah, according to care it is, and that should
say something. It's rightfully so that the United Air Memorates
put them down as they hears organization that at least
Uponic points out that just this week points out that
these guys were unindicted co conspiracors and the terrorist financing scheme.

(46:00):
And you know, I'm just saying this to Jonathan Brown.
I doubt he'll hear this, but maybe somehow I'll get
back to him. If those are the people that are
coming to your defense, look at your life, look at
your choices.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
What are you doing here? Like you clearly have not
been making the best life choices.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
If these are the people coming to your defense, that
should just say enough that you know, I really need
to go to confession change my.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Ways, and I'm on the right doors. And I think
some parent or someone is spending about eighty thousand dollars
a year to being doctrinated at Georgetown as that of educated.
Once again, quote, there is no such thing as slavery.
In Islam Professor Jonathan Brown defended by the radical left.
Keep teaching, keep making that money and slavery does not exist.

(46:47):
Rape does not exist. Wow, all right, Michael McDonald, Catholic
League dot org. Lots of good stuff up. I wish
the Catholic Christian press would pick this up. I know
that CNN and NPR, which may not exist much, is
not going to pick it up. ABC, NBCCBS not gonna
pick it up because it doesn't fit their attitudes. But

(47:07):
to have this guy teaching at the so called great
university is disgusting. Once again, we got to run. Michael
McDonald of the Catholic League dot org. Thanks for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show. And you're a great American.
Thank you, Michael.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Thanks Bill, you're a great American.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
God bless you. Let's continue with more. How about that
paying money to have your kids indoctrinated instead of educated?
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Hella quiet, and I'm skokes, I'm broadcasting Bond.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Can I tell the story?

Speaker 7 (49:41):
You just sent wrap back fifty five hundred years, but
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, I had a producer in my
TV show that was connected to jay Z.

Speaker 7 (49:53):
And Beyonce, and then about Diddy. No wonder Diddy's on Treny.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Was around, but there was a for it to convert
me into a white older eminem let me rap, and
so I put together a few lines, and I was
appearing at a couple of nightclubs in Harlem, and I
would show up in my three piece business suit and

(50:20):
start rapping at the Apollo. The goal was to get
me on the road so that I could be the
voice of my generation, a four to one case of
pickleball of golf in America and America. However, as I

(50:40):
was ready to storm the South, but jay Z and
some up and coming rappers having succeeded in selling out
the Apollo, and somebody and some lady named Beyonce.

Speaker 6 (50:51):
Right, what's that? Whatever happened to her? I don't know,
And I'm hanging up in the middle of in mid
air in a car.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Unfortunately, there were two New York City cops killed in
their car sitting in Brooklyn. Right, We're ready to take
off and storm the South rap style, the voice of
my generation. Do you think my generation needs a rap
star like me? They need to put a rap on you.
That's what they need. We never got off the ground.

Speaker 7 (51:21):
You know you're avoiding the obvious question that CBS last
night whacked the Late Show with Stephen Colbert.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
One.

Speaker 7 (51:37):
I say bring back David Letterman, but I'll never do it.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
In two.

Speaker 7 (51:42):
Wild rumors on the internet that it could be Late
Night with Willie.

Speaker 8 (51:49):
Cunningham, Cunningham pointed out that your opponent's middle name was Hussein.
Your next logical political move is to point out that
his daughter's names are Oude and Kuse.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
That's when I'm saying round and around.

Speaker 7 (52:08):
So he took a shot at management on it with them.
What getting the settlement with the Trumpster?

Speaker 1 (52:14):
What would happen if you went after DJ Hodge, Bob
Pittman and Scott Reinhardt and said they were a fat and.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
Ugly Bye bye Loretta, Bye bye the Segi pooh, but
seg do I have a future in rap?

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Well?

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the lines I laid down very good? I know though it's
a music behind it would have been better. I'm the
voice of my generation. Sure are in rat Just wait
a minute at the Ring of Honor, Honouree, Dave Lapham said.

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Non Kenwick Country Club, the Camargo Club and maybe Clovernook.
I could be the voice of that generation in Rat. No,
I think that'd be popular. Latim says, No. We want
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(53:24):
like man, what about the cold Play affair in which
the president and hr mail in each other's legs and
arms during a kiss cam event.

Speaker 7 (53:35):
I understand the wife of that guy that that company's
based here, right.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
I know Tanya O'Rourke is chasing it down. They were
shall we say, I think he had his hands on
her boobies. That was awkward.

Speaker 7 (53:50):
Plus I learned today and we don't have to worry
about Rocky being involved with an interview with Bill Belichick,
Tom Brenneman will talk to the North Carolina coach for
c W Sports during ACC Media Days next week.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
So I just saw Tom in the hallway say that again.
Tom Brennan wrot interview Bill Belichick. What about Jordan Hudson,
She'll be right there too. What if she's going to
talk about the defense? What if Tom asked her a
wrong question and Jordan Hudson jumps in, can't say.

Speaker 7 (54:33):
So to the coach. So there's your there's your updated
the answer my question. What how about the lines that
I laid down? I told you they were good. Just
put some music to it. Red's open up the second
half Tonight Willie in New York City, the Big Apple

(54:56):
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Speaker 7 (55:11):
Rap only if there's a wedding reception there. Niclodolo up
against left handed Sean Minea tonight. Let's see good luck
to the West Side All Stars. They play Wheelersburg tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
Willie in the opening game of the Ohio State Little
League Tournament. Did you forget about the British Open British
Open up date.

Speaker 7 (55:34):
Let's see Matt Fitzpatrick as the leader at nine under
through fourteen.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
What about Harmon? Harmon is next?

Speaker 7 (55:43):
He is in the clubhouse after a sixty five today?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
What about Scheffler?

Speaker 7 (55:48):
Brian Harmon is at eight under ho tong Lee who
is also eight under par Tongue Lee? Is he related
to one hung Low? Scotty Scheffler is fourth? He's minus seven?

Speaker 1 (56:03):
What about Rory? Here he comes.

Speaker 7 (56:06):
Let's see Roy McIlroy is tied for thirteen to three
under What about Tiger? He's at home watching it on
TV like you and me.

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He's at IHAP getting a pancake order.

Speaker 7 (56:18):
I think so. Jason Kochreck is tied for twenty fourth.
The Xavier guy is uh, well, he had a he
fired a seventy today. He's won under part see.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
I get a lot of calls here about me getting
back into the rap world. Should I reconnect with jay
Z and Beyonce to see if I still have a future? Well,
you don't.

Speaker 7 (56:38):
I mean, didd, he's not doing nothing, so you better
hook up with somebody.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I won't say hook up relative to Diddy.

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(57:05):
work out unless they're signed. Hen Hendrickson, will they become employees?

Speaker 1 (57:09):
He is signed? Well?

Speaker 3 (57:11):
T J.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
Watt and the Steelers are really thrown out. That thrown
the deal up in the air. Now he's making more
every year than number one.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Yeah, steel GJ. TJ.

Speaker 7 (57:21):
Watt a three year deal one hundred and twenty three million,
one hundred and eight guaranteed every time.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
The Bengals way to cost him more money? Uh?

Speaker 7 (57:30):
That will be I'm sure Trey Head say about that one?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
I need more?

Speaker 6 (57:36):
Uh the green Salad, the Salvation. Maybe I should got
onto the Bengals locker room and start rapping. Would that
be something?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah? Then you'll be hospitalized.

Speaker 6 (57:45):
Ohio High School Athletic Association Willie says it's going to
sanction a state championship event and girls flag football beginning
next spring twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
How about that?

Speaker 7 (57:55):
Some eighty schools like Girl have a girls flag football team.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Who won the state title first time. It was the
Cougar's at Mountain Notre Dame.

Speaker 6 (58:04):
Direct Flag Football State Championship game will be held in Maya,
twenty twenty six at Paul Brown Tiger Stadium, Beautiful Massline.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Here it is on CNN kiss Cam goes viral. They
were in the stadium, the Patriot Football Stadium of seventy
five thousand. They happen to pick out just a couple
in the stands. Turned out to be the president of
an internet company here in Cincinnati along with his HR
director and there having an affair. They just look at

(58:33):
that and he's got her hands around her boobies. Let's
see will he mls action?

Speaker 7 (58:39):
Coming off that huge victory against Inner Miami HR director
FC Cincinnati's on the road tomorrow night against Real Salt
Lake nine o'clock ESPN, fifteen thirty. Now next week, Oh,
here's one of my buddies, doctor Jeffrey Gardier, one of
my experts on my TV show.

Speaker 6 (58:57):
He's going to help this couple. I bet how we
bet they are And now he has to give advice.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Will he the.

Speaker 7 (59:08):
And the FCC has to go what Inner Miami next week?

Speaker 6 (59:14):
Oh with the big m oh o m may have
a case of the Goop.

Speaker 7 (59:19):
College football preseason SEC Football poll us out Texas. The
Longhorns have been predicted to win the SEC Championship, Georgia's
second all of by Alabama and LSU Kentucky fifteen out
of sixteen.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
What why would a woman behave like that at a
stadium when you're the HR director along the CEO they did?
They probably didn't have no idea who they were now
on the Kiss camp, I know what about you and
Sarah Elise on the Kiss Camp.

Speaker 7 (59:51):
Don't go anywhere with anybody anymore. Stay by myself and
my lovely wife Denise.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
In the basement in your underwear. Correct. This is like
a rubber band on a watermelon.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
I don't know what to tell you. I'm now that
now that Dave Keaton played that cudding and I'm starting
to add the stirrings. I'm starting to rap for my generation.

Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
Well you got to put some music behind it, though,
No in oh no, that was Lance.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
He's calling insane. He's the matter with it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
Doesn't want me, you know, I have the guts to
come on. He won't come on no, you know, and
he guts at all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
That's why you got mo on. MOA's got some serious Yeah.
On the other hand, Lance about the size of a cashow.
I don't know what to tell. I'm just saying the
kiss cam caught him. You got to put some rap
music something underneath.

Speaker 6 (01:00:39):
That, a little beat. You need a beat, right, you
need to eat. What kind of beat should I have?
Kind of gotta do it?

Speaker 7 (01:00:44):
Go talk to uh Taren, the team man. He's on
the beat one O two point three FM. Tarren puts
a beat beat beneath my rap. Yeah, he can put
some beat behind there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
My generation needs a hero.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
They talk about our experiences, you know, golf Bernie's or
one K's, lcs Mone Power Ferrari's. My generation needs a voice.
Jeff Beckham, no question, you're trying to get that. You're
trying to get that Niche.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Wally Sweeney, Mike Laine. They needed you could become the
country club rapper. I'm getting text from my boys Hell
and Dave. Just just play a minute. If you just
with season five about the rap. There's no better way

(01:01:33):
to vent my crack. After office floods, blizzards and mice.
We moved to Harlem, which wasn't so nice. Some nights
in bed, all I could hear is put the cheese
and the cracker from ear to ear. They say, I'm
so bolgy, But how can that be? I run a
crazy talk show, so look at me. Flyars and cheaters
and pimps and hoes, DNA drama and cheating woes. Don't
forget the yelled ets and everyone's favored me on my knees.

(01:01:57):
Some days I doubt I can do it again, but
then I see some some good looking woman and I
can thoughts and coots and raw dogging and ratchet our vocabulary.
He's truly become fantastic. My teams work all day, work
all night, just to convince some guests they might be
they might want to fight.

Speaker 6 (01:02:12):
The guests are really what do you think? There is
music there? But talk to terror? Let's update, let's up update.
Think you gotta get, you gotta put you know you
gotta keep something going there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah, I'm gonna lay on some more lines for maybe Monday.
We'll talk to the tea men. All right, Let's continue
with more Ashley Bamfield about Jeffrey Epstein Cubic hair and
Donald Trump.

Speaker 7 (01:02:36):
Let me ask you something, do you think that's all
a hoax? With his his uh I called list. I
want you to listen to what she has to say.
And you tell me say give me out of the
student's report, will he.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
And o he of a rainy day crew.

Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
Oh, we leave you with the immortal words of the
stooge report.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Thank you seven hundred WLW Bill cunning into Great America.
And the Epstein debacle continues unabated, and more informations coming out,
including a fiftieth birthday greeting card supposedly sent by Donald

(01:03:17):
Trump in twenty oh three to Epstein in which she
had some The Wall Street Journal said some body information
allegedly that Donald drew the outline of a woman's naked
body and put his name in the pubic region to
demonstrate something to the effect of It's exciting, isn't it,
And then he also had her breast in a certain

(01:03:38):
outline way, and that Donald completely denies it. In fact,
he says he called Rupert Murdock directly about fourteen hours
ago and said that's all bs. Don't do it, and
if you put it in, it's going to be sued.
And the Wall Street Journal did not put in their
article anything about the card itself and whether they had
possession of the card or not. And so this thing
continues unabated, but nonetheless Ashley band Field of News Nation

(01:04:01):
has done a great reporting this week on three unanswered
questions about the Epstein suicide, which is the foundation of
many other things that had occurred. That he killed himself
in August of twenty nineteen, and like many Americans, I
was very suspicious in the beginning as to whether or
I actually killed himself because it just seems almost impossible.
And then information came out that he was murdered, and

(01:04:25):
then more information came out it was maybe suicide. I
don't know what the heck it was. But Ashley Banfield
of News Nation, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Ashley, of course I watch every night that I
can you, and there's no better crime reporter. You're good
at this stuff about whether or not it was a
crime or whether it was suicide. And the first unanswered
question was about Epstein's suicide was a guy named Franzezi

(01:04:48):
who was a member of the mob, and he had
comments on your show about whether or not Epstein committed suicide.
He said it could not have happened. So, first of all, welcome,
and secondly, let's go over whether or not killed himself
or not. The big one's number two, but number one,
what did friend Zez say about the availability of Epstein
to actually kill himself in that cell?

Speaker 9 (01:05:10):
Hey, Bill, Greg to be on the show with you.

Speaker 10 (01:05:12):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's big because whenever there are
big denials, stories tend to get more focus and attention.
And Donald Trump has been doing a lot of denying lately.
So let's start with that first one. Michael Franzizi was
a Columbo crime family boss and he literally spent time

(01:05:37):
in that cell, and so he talked to us about
the logistics, about what it's like to be in that cell,
about how often the guards go by, and he professes
that it is impossible for someone to hang himself and
be in the position that Epstein was in with the
sheets around his neck, leaning for word, tied to the

(01:06:01):
bed without anybody seeing it or passing by within a
three minute period.

Speaker 9 (01:06:06):
I'm not so sure about that.

Speaker 10 (01:06:08):
I know how how guards usually do rounds in jails
even when people are on suicide watch.

Speaker 9 (01:06:15):
They're not on you every three minutes.

Speaker 10 (01:06:16):
But look, I haven't been in that cell, and I'm not.

Speaker 9 (01:06:20):
A crime bost but.

Speaker 10 (01:06:23):
He professes that he literally spent time in the exact
same cell, and that it would be impossible to carry
out the kind of suicide that it's alleged esteemed it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
So is it possible the guards did not do their
duty for a long period of time and did not
check on them every Yes, that's possible. But frenzies, you say,
to hang himself that way, to be using a bed
sheet and the lean forward, and then it would take
several minutes for the actual depth to occur in a
terrible way. You would assume he'd be kicking, screaming, doing

(01:06:54):
whatever in one sense or another. And yeah, I guess
that's possible. I know that his attorney, Alan Dershowitz as
a column right now that's at the Wall Street Journal
and elsewhere in which he believes that Epstein most likely
killed himself based upon his representation. But most importantly Number

(01:07:16):
two is the one that fascinates me. This is the
actual video that was cut and the FBI and the
DOJ insists Epstein's died by suicide in twenty nineteen forensic
expert Jake Green believes it is concerning in almost three
minutes of footage were cut from the source of the
video near epstein cell the night before he was found dead,

(01:07:37):
and three successive administrations have shall we say, not released information.
Explain to the American people that cut video and how
through analytics you can prove that someone changed the video
of outside the cell as far as who went in
who went out Epstein cell. Explain that.

Speaker 10 (01:07:55):
So I'll explain that, But I'll touch on the Dershowitz
piece first, as uh, Deerschwitz has long been rumored to
have been a very close Epstein associate. Lots of allegations
have been flown, you know, flying his way.

Speaker 9 (01:08:09):
He's sued, sometimes successfully, he's settled, but he's also once again.

Speaker 10 (01:08:16):
He also surfaced in this Wall Street Journal article as
having written one of these body letters for Epstein's fiftieth birthday.
So just you know, the hits keep coming. But as
the digital forensics, Uh, it is pretty damn fascinating when
you hear what digital experts are able to see in

(01:08:37):
the tape that the government professes is raw. For one thing,
they say one, it's not raw. It has been manipulated.
They do not suggest that it has been manipulated in
in any kind of way that is intentionally uh, you know,
including malfeasans. They just say that there is two sore

(01:09:01):
pieces that have been stitched together manually. And it's not
to say that there's something criminal here. It's just to say,
if you profess that this is raw tape, it isn't.
So you're going to have to be more clear and
more transparent on the manipulation of the tape. Was it

(01:09:25):
manipulated in that it was downloaded from the servers at
the jail.

Speaker 9 (01:09:30):
Was it a picture of a picture, which is what
Jay Green thinks it is.

Speaker 10 (01:09:36):
But no matter what, there are two source videos were
stitched together, and the original source video has three minutes
missing from it and it actually even has a username.

Speaker 9 (01:09:46):
So whoever handed his stuff over to the breast, I
don't think was as good at digital forensics as Jay
Green is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
So Jay Green said that the original tape was manipulated,
that the three minutes the the critical minutes were taken out,
and wasn't there a date of twenty twenty three through
analytics that someone spliced three minutes of the Epstein tape
outside the jail cell as if it was taken in
real time in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 10 (01:10:15):
Yeah, I mean the date of the manipulation is on
the metadata, right. So that's what's so fascinating is that
it's like super easy to see this stuff if you're
really smart when it comes to digital metadata. I am
not so I am taking Jake Green's word for it,
but he said, yes, it is not a twenty nineteen

(01:10:36):
law source.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
The digital experts and the technical operations manager at in
Vista Forensics has analyzed the jail video and they're saying
the so called metadata and the analytics demonstrate that the
three minutes, the critical minutes, were created in twenty twenty three,
not in twenty nineteen, which is pretty important. And I
would add reviewing the comments of Alan Dershowitz has been

(01:11:00):
a guest on your show in Mind a Lot, and
he said, quote, it is clear from the evidence that
Epstein committed suicide. What isn't clear is whether he was
helped by jail personnel. And dersha Which says that seems
likely to me based on the evidence of allegedly broken cameras,
transfer of a cellmate, and the absence of guards during

(01:11:21):
relevant time periods Now, the number of people that would
have to be involved for the murder would be, of
course one or two murderers, the jail guards themselves, and
I guess those responsible for letting people inside the jail
in order to do the murder. By the time you
started raveling this thread, it gets Isn't it unlikely that

(01:11:43):
numerous people looking forward to the presidency of a second
presidency of Donald Trump in twenty nineteen would want to
kill Jeffrey Epstein in a way in which numerous people
would have to be involved, all of which have kept
silent about it. Isn't that someone unusual?

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:12:00):
I mean I have gone back and forth on all
of the theories, and I'm not one to jump on
board conspiracy theories. I'm just not typically, you know, spidy
senses when you're a reporter, suggests theories or theories, facts
are where I go, and I always come to that
resolution that it is astounding. If it is actually a murder,

(01:12:25):
there would have to be a lot of people all
on board, not only to carry it out, but to
keep it quiet for so long. And that's one of
the reasons I have a tough time believing that Jeffrey
Epstein was murdered. That said, every time I look at
the facts, I have a tough time with those two.

(01:12:46):
Like I have a really tough time hearing about all
the cameras out. Michael franzz the capital crime boss, said no,
the cameras aren't typically all out, especially on that mezzanine
and that area where Epstein was housed.

Speaker 9 (01:12:59):
And not only that.

Speaker 10 (01:13:00):
There were multiple jail sheets found in his cell. That
is also unlikely and unusual. And then there's the medical forensics.
You know, the autopsy showed that the hyoid bone in
Jeffrey Epstein's neck, which is this little U shaped bone
sort of under your chin that keeps the tongue in place.

Speaker 9 (01:13:23):
It's pretty delicate, and it was broken.

Speaker 10 (01:13:27):
Now you probably say, well, you know, the pressure of
hanging that would probably break it.

Speaker 9 (01:13:32):
No, actually not.

Speaker 10 (01:13:34):
I've spoken with multiple experts, not only that, people who
back to the corners in the past, medical examiners in
the past, who say it's not normal. It is extremely
rare for the hyoid bone to be broken in the
kind of suicide that is alleged to have been the
suicide Epstein carried out, which was he's on the floor,

(01:13:55):
he ties his neck to the bed behind him, and
then he leans forward. Literally he's sitting on the floor.
The pressure that that would give to the highoid bone
isn't enough to break the hyoid bone.

Speaker 9 (01:14:09):
But again on the other side.

Speaker 10 (01:14:12):
Of the coin is possible only because he was sixty six,
and sometimes when you're a little bit older that hyoid
bones can break easier. But most of the experts I've
spoken have said, no, not sixty six, more like eighty six,
and that might have happened. But if you strangle someone,
the pressure from behind on a lateral you know, typically

(01:14:35):
a lateral kind of pull, that would break the hyoid
bone in most cases, like most people who dive strangulation
have their highoid bone broken. Hanging, though it's more of
a vertical action. Typically when people hang themselves in the ceiling,
hyoid bone doesn't always break. But in this particular kind

(01:14:56):
of hanging leaning forward, you know, the conventional with the
miss hell, no hyoid bone doesn't break, and Epstein's was broken.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
So really, like a Godfather scene in which Luka Brotzi
is strangled from behind, that's how to break this throat
bone is to put the pressure from behind, not leaning
forward sitting on the floor. Highly unlikely that throat bone
would break him that way, highly unlikely.

Speaker 10 (01:15:20):
Correct, Correct, Well, I know, get to throw another wrench
into things.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Lastly, we have about two minutes or a minute and a
half remaining. Brian Coberger, he's going to be sentenced. He's
going to get consecutive life sentences. And I read this
story through a different reporter that said he burglarized numerous
homes in order to get money to feed his heroin addiction.
He was, and he wanted to have the perfect crime,
and he wanted to do it in a way that

(01:15:48):
he would not be discovered. Except for the knife sheath
left behind with his DNA, he never would have been located.
Can you tell me, Brian Koberger? And then went back
in a second time after murder those four people to
find that piece of evidence. Yeah. Do you find any
of that believable? That he was a cat burglar years

(01:16:08):
before he killed those four people in Idaho?

Speaker 10 (01:16:12):
I haven't seen any evidence of carrying out the cat burglaries.
That said, there is a lot to be said about
somebody carrying out a killing that unbelievable for the very
first time, meaning, did he do any kind of practicing
in advance, even if it were just tipping his like

(01:16:35):
dipping his toe into the water of this kind of
crime and doing a few cat burglaries to see if
he could get away with it.

Speaker 9 (01:16:43):
Yes, I could see that happening.

Speaker 10 (01:16:44):
There's also some incredible evidence about his strata information. Now,
I'm not a big runner who tracks my you know,
my path, you know, as I go out running, but
apparently he was, and some of his data showed that
he was doing very strange running patterns, very very late

(01:17:06):
at night in the months leading up to the murders.
So yeah, I mean I could see that he certainly
was capable of doing casings.

Speaker 9 (01:17:16):
Did he do the break ins?

Speaker 10 (01:17:18):
Not sure, But I will say this, I don't believe
for a minute he went into the house the morning after.
I think he was there so quickly, at nine o'clock
in the morning, he was there, and he was gone.
And I think he simply drove to the location where
he'd originally parked his car and checked to see if God,

(01:17:38):
I hope that knife he's dropped outside the house and not,
for the love of God, inside the house. And of course,
as we all know, he was wrong, and it dropped
inside the house and there was no way he was
going to go back inside at that bright daylight hour
to try to cover his tracks.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Ansley, you're the best there is of this stuff. But
the high old barn, the wrote bone could be the
key to prove that he was Luca Brotzi style murdered
and not killing himself. Once again, Ashley Banfield, thanks for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We'll see what happens next.
This case is more twist and turns than a jar
of worms, so we'll see what happens. I am not Yes,

(01:18:18):
you're the best. Thank you, Asley.

Speaker 9 (01:18:20):
He's always great talking to you. Bill. Thanks for having
me on.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
God bless America. Coburger. Did Coburger know Jeffrey Epstein? That's
what I know? And did Trump send Brian Coberg a
happy birthday greeting before the Idaho murders? I don't know.
Film at eleven, Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLW.
With season five about to wrap, there's no better way
to vent my crap. After office floods, blizzards and mice,

(01:18:45):
we moved to Harlem, which wasn't so nice. Some nights
in bed all I could hear is put the cheese
and the cracker from ear to ear. They say, I'm
so boogy, But how can that be? I run a
crazy talk show, So look at me. Flyars and cheaters
and pimps and hose DNA dry and cheating woes. Don't
forget the yeldts and everyone's favorite me on my knees.
Some days I doubt I can do it again, But

(01:19:07):
then I see some good looking woman and I can.
Thoughts and coochs and raw dogging and ratchet our vocabulary.
He has truly become fantastic. My teams work all day,
work all night, just to convince some guests they might
be they might want to fight. The guests are real,
they never lie. Who else would sit on set and
pretend to cry. From housewives to hoes, porn stars and strippers,

(01:19:27):
fake balloons, Barbie and Bieber, kid Rock and Plooney stallone
into Nero. But let's not forget Pyro my hero with
beds on set, stripper poles and doghouses. One thing's for sure,
I'm never a bore. Production is tough. That's not enough
time to convinces all my guests. It's all in our dime.
The expert needs intake. We learned that this season and

(01:19:48):
guests on the run they're a mess for a reason.
They throw the chairs, rip weaves from their hair. But
don't forget there's always after care. We try to help,
we really do, but sometimes the guests want to screw
the shoes they wear, have sick since heels. All they
want to do is get a free meal. The closer tight,
the lipstick better be bright because if Joyce approves you,
good to go. But if she doesn't, well you know Lakeisha, Lacanda, Lawanda,

(01:20:11):
La Mama, bottom, bitches, pregnant teens, bad moms, and more.
The best part of our is me and my team
because without oh you, I'd have to scream. We often
say we should write this stuff down, but if we don't,
you all be clowns. I heard the best staff and crew.
That's why I love all of you. I do the five,
one three, and I play golf at KCC eh eh yeah,

(01:20:37):
hellaa buiet, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 6 (01:20:44):
Can I tell you the story? Please do again? Where
I blast you about ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
My rap career is ready to take off to be
the voice of my generation. You're gonna sweep the south
right with what was his name, Reta. No, he was
gonna sweep the country clubs. Seg yeah, audience, Rico suavee,
weren't you don't we need a voice of our time
and our concerns about protest your time, not our time?
Four one ks LLC, social security.

Speaker 6 (01:21:12):
Right, My generation is stocks, bonds, payouts, well well guards,
country clubs.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Mercedes Benz.

Speaker 6 (01:21:23):
Yeah, I am a producer who was connected to jay Z.
So he said, lay down a few lines. We do
this act at the Apollo. Bring in Willie.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
I'll introduce him, you'll be I'll be there at the
Apollo to debut some of my lines. You know, lay
And I thought, this is my promo tape. And so
someone in this organization heard and said, you know what,
fifty and older men with income do not have a voice.
They know they're fighting for them. Yeah, they need me.

(01:21:52):
So I laid it down.

Speaker 7 (01:21:54):
And I was ready to say you certainly laid it down, yes, yeah,
and then laid it on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
All right, you laid it on. So two cops are
killed shutting their car, and that shut things down for
two or three weeks, and my rap career never took off.

Speaker 7 (01:22:08):
You know, think about this you're You're like it's it's
like the Temptations.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
You would be Willie okaye.

Speaker 7 (01:22:19):
See your background singers would be Justice, Joey.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Rocky Rock, No.

Speaker 7 (01:22:28):
Dancers yep and uh Tom Weedmanana.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Yeah, they could dance behind me. Do you see a
chance you're rock? Is there an opportunity?

Speaker 6 (01:22:39):
Well, you finally put some music behind that made it
somewhat better, but you don't have any flow. Thank you,
rock I'm dead is the problem? You're in music and
I am. I'm a former drummer in gun metal Grace.
Say have I told you about that anyway?

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Once? Yeah, you got a story to ye.

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
But another thing my music, same thing, my music career.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Just now you're sitting here with me, my magma chamber
is getting ready to burst, and I just feel this
creativity that wants to come out. So what was some
of the lines?

Speaker 6 (01:23:13):
You're on your knees and there was something about yeah
roll dog beames or something about yeah getting.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Ready to screw pull out your weave, and it was
something that was relevant to my life at the time.

Speaker 6 (01:23:23):
I can't say it was all that was all wrapped
around his TV show first when he was a big.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Time to see laying down the rest was the last
year your TV show twenty seventeen was seventeen, so we
had a chance of really being something. This is one
of those things you look back in life and yes,
me and jay Z and Beyonce on the hangout.

Speaker 6 (01:23:44):
Well you could have gotten invited to a Diddy party.
Then you really have some stories for us. Freak off,
Say give me some Staby oil. Well, heave the stooge
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Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
I got to report out of Fox News that Jordan
Hudson and the drama revealed a new emails between Belichick
and Jordan Hudson. Plus we have Jordan Hudson unrecruiting players
for North Carolina, deciding who comes and who doesn't come
to North Carolina. It's Tom Brownman gonna ask her explain

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that one segment about our own Tom Brenneman, what's going on.

Speaker 7 (01:24:35):
He's gonna interview Coach Belichick for I guess what the
ACC preview days or something.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Sometime next week? Does he have the guts? Is he
ever gonna?

Speaker 6 (01:24:44):
Yes, Henna have the guts as before you go, Bro's
kind of you know, there's something that's kind of hanging
over a cloud, kind of hanging over your tenure.

Speaker 1 (01:24:52):
I'm not the spokesperson for the morning show. I bet
he asked at the end of the interview, would you
ask you're not walking off by the way, tell me
about Jordan, not Michael, but Hudet. It's a way to
get Cincinnati. It's on the Cincinnati talking about the past.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Nothing about the futures right now with Crampson.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Tell Brandna minutes on the Cincinnati get back. He's gonna
ask Bill Belichick if he.

Speaker 6 (01:25:14):
Still has the fish fisherman's outfit that he posed in
the picture with the mermaid.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Jordan Hudson, He's in less trouble than Coldplay and the
Cold Can they about that? That is everywhere.

Speaker 6 (01:25:25):
I can't remember an internet thing blowing up that much.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
I mean it's all over Twitter face, but you name it,
Sech What about you and Sarah at least on a
kiss cam, wouldn't that be? Yeah?

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Believe me that Flander at concerts. I'd rather kiss you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
You have her hands around her boobies and then like
I said, I'd rather kiss you. The Reds open up
the second half of the season tonight with the first
of three against the Mets of New York.

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Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Jordan hudson Uses Taylor swift lyrics and out of.

Speaker 6 (01:26:24):
Potential, belichick, now please read what website you're getting that off.

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Of is AT.

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Espn clutch, point clutch, point what's?

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THAT i don't.

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Know he can't can't talk about that clutch point as
you were. Source that's it right. There you might not know,
this but not everything on the internet is.

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True that's not. True Abraham lincoln said.

Speaker 6 (01:26:46):
That he, said don't believe everything on the. Internet he
said That lincoln And Bill belichick is going to. Coach
it's twenty twenty five season fourth and there may be
some trouble in paradise Between Jordan hudson And Bill belichicks
is a former cheerleader and hairstyle shared Some Taylor swift
lyrics hitting out of. Breakup the hairstylist is any of, this,

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yes say give me some more.

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Sports thank. You let's See bengals.

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the second round, pick they. Can't they gotta, be they
gotta be. Signed what about?

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This how?

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Much how much more Is stewart asking?

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
For?

Speaker 6 (01:27:32):
Now THAT?

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Tj watt well twenty three or?

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Four but twenty? Three what about Mister hendrickson number ninety?
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At?

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Now that's What i'm.

Speaker 7 (01:27:42):
Saying wait a, minute, dude a lot of. Money let's
go over that my. Car wise, gentlemen, well they should
have signed him last year to an. Extension would have
saved tens of, millions much Like Jamar chase signed the year.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Before you saved tens of. Millions but it's The bengals.
Money what the? HELL i tell this story all the,
time BUT i remember WHERE i. WAS i was with The.

Speaker 6 (01:27:59):
Titans it's the summer of two thousand and. Three we're
in the football facility and news breaks on THE. Tv
Peyton manning of The colts receives ten, year one hundred
million dollar contract and everyone's looking on a locker room
like they're paying someone one hundred million dollars over ten.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
YEARS Tj watts getting.

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Year, Well Taylor swift to break up this, Couple, Elicha
she's good at breaking up lots of other. Relationships so,
yeah putting your.

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Own texas has been predicted to win The Southeastern conference.
Championship they got a forty forty million dollars. Roster let's
say Forty georgia the doll forty, million forty the doll's
shot in Il, alabama, Third kentucky picked the finish second.

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Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Pablo torre won't stop talking about an obsession With Bill
belichick And Jordan hudson annoying his. Thing, man it's NOT
i hate people obsessed with, something don't? You, yes just
talk about. It but you don't know anybody that does?
That do?

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We? No?

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Okay what's on the anything about your rap? Career she said,
again you're making a fool of yourself compared.

Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
To you posing naked and putting pictures while sprawled across
the old news desk, there what does this? Compare is
just like? Worse she won't Look she's not much to
look at, IT i, SAID i, Know, well she'll be
a business manager for your New Fuji Joe. Dieter start
making some rap.

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Songs can you imagine the LYRICS i could come up
with and the money i'd make the voice of my?
Generation wouldn't that be? Something?

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there's a demogram people that would love to see.

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That see what you got is your first concert at
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we go in need like a rap hardcore old school
rap video at the chicks and bikinis are outside of
the POOL. Kcc you, know MY tv show was across
the street from The, apollo AND i spent many nights
in The, apollo walking around the back talking to the.
Axe they loved, me And i'm, thinking you know, what
they wanted to monetize, that AND i got. CLOSE i

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could have been somebody rock and it just didn't. Happen
you're going to look back on this and say that.

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Club i'm not, sure but you never.

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Know, well you, know you can't just play life, conservatively,
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THERE i gotta go for.

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It take your shot on, tour you'd, Write i'd drive the.

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Regrets none wanted to live it all and do it
all only fans account with the Great, American i'd run
the media for. You would you want me to eat
like a clam or maybe a bull of? Spaghetti what
do you? WANT i want on The Big? SHOW i don't.
Know me And terran you're laughing Out but next Week
terran's gonna come in and lay.

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but he needs some minds to work.

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WITH i mean WITH.

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Ai now they can actually clean up whatever that thing
you called a rap.

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Was add some music to. It it might be pretty.
Good Does Bob pittman know about? This if he can
make some money off, it he.

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Will you could Win newcomer of The year at The
iHeart Music.

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AWARD i wouldn't be that next to Your.

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Marconi you could be out there wrapping on stage with JAY.

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Z people have.

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Gotten famous, for you, know not being good at things or.
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but he made a bunch of you, KNOW i had
a fifteen minute level of fame, there made some.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
MONEY i could be, Somebody that's.

Speaker 6 (01:31:52):
All you don't want to look back and SAY i
regret not doing. THAT i regret not at least pursuing that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Trapping, yeah what's on the show With?

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
Eddie we've Got Richard skinner right out of the, gate
talk about camp Starting Sjamar, STEWART.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Tj.

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Watt, wow if you guys got those, guys that guy on.

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Him.

Speaker 6 (01:32:11):
John mendery's three fifty got trags four talk a little More,
Bengals bengals and everything in.

Speaker 1 (01:32:17):
Between the smart money Says tray is going to show,
Up he's going to have a hold.

Speaker 6 (01:32:21):
In is that, True, well let me tell you this
is gonna work. Out so he is going to not
show up for, camp and he'll be. There we'll kind
of be, around being street, closed will go like two
weeks or. Something then, finally right before the season he'll.
Sign he won't be in game plane, shape he'll get,
hurt and then The bengals will have paid a lot
of money for him to sit on the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Bench rite that, down write that.

Speaker 6 (01:32:44):
Down if he Doesn't if he doesn't, SIGN i mean
he needs to get his butt into. Camp the time
for doing contracts was a while. Back now it's time
to play. Football SO i suggest get, in get in,
shape have a great, year bang it up and maybe
see what.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
Happens now you.

Speaker 6 (01:33:00):
Keep holding, out holding, out holding, out and then a
week before the first, game, okay else, on you're gonna get.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Hurt sech your. Reaction that's probably. Right get me out
of the student's, report getting ready For eliza ahead and
all that's, been and live out your life in a
way you can look back upon. It on your death's,
bed saying you've done all that your talents allow you to.
DO i want to be the wrapper of my, Generation
willie and honor of.

Speaker 7 (01:33:23):
Everybody have it a great, weekend Go. Reds we leave
you with the immortal words of The Stood.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
REPORT i hope you'll be with us next.

Speaker 9 (01:33:33):
Week until, then, remember no matter how, new the safest
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You this Is Rodrick crawford saying see you next.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Week that was at a time where there are no
airbags and no, uh no restraints of any, type no
seat belts and Uh Roderick crawford ran around without a.

Speaker 6 (01:33:49):
Seatbelt that's. CORRECT i recall That, rocky the good old
days when men were. Men, rocky thank, you thank, you
get ready for next, Week Man. Tarn could a pair
locally had a wrap, off and wouldn't.

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That be something that would be something two fifty five
home Your reds getting out of. Tonight starting about six oh,
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