LIVE On Sunday Night with Bill Cunningham 5/4/2025

Bill talks about the murder of retired Hamilton County, Ohio, sheriff's deputy Larry Henderson. He is also joined by Congressman Warren Davidson to talk about Trump's first 100 days. Dr Jared Ross talks on the need to protect healthcare from identity politics. Natasha Zouves from NewsNation joins Bill. Jared Gould talks DEI in medical schools.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
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(00:43):
the one and only Bill cunning.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Head Hilly cunning, integrated American. Thanks for listening. This uh
this great more Sunday night in the Try State in
the Midwest has been rainy and cold the last several days.
I don't know about you, but I could use some
global warming right about now. It might break maybe in
the middle of next to it this who knows. But
I've done frequent topics on the billions of billions of
dollars spent to confront to man make global warming causing

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climate change, And at no point does anyone ever looked
back and said, man, did we waste all that money?
The answer is yes, but nonetheless, coming up later, we
have a Congressman Warren Davidson. You know, quite a bit
of talk on some of the Sunday morning talk shows
about whether or not there's going to be any tax
cuts when I watched Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,
say this thing without the Republicans acting like Republicans. Even

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sometimes there's parts of that bill that I do not like,
and I'm going to get in with Warren Davidson about that.
That why have a Republican Party? That is a simple
reflection of the Democrats who are completely dysfunctional getting nothing done.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
We want to change.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
November the fifth, we voted for change, and like Kamala
Harre says, well, when you vote, you order something and
you get what you got. Right now, we got Donald Trump,
and thank god we got Donald Trump. Imagine the alternative.
But nonetheless, it's important that the Republican Party cut tax
rates to create more shall we say, a generous economic

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activity that will produce more income. Every time has been tried,
whether under John F. Kennedy or Ronald Reagan or in
the first Donald Trump term, it always works. When you
cut income taxes on the producers in our society. What
it causes the producers to do, that would be you
and me has have more money in our pockets that
we spend, which creates more jobs because of the spending.

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And in the next six months, this tariff thing's going
to be completely resolved, and then we're going to have
the tax cuts in place, and the later half of
this year and next year is going to be fabulous.
Then the Democrats will find something else to belly ache about.
But it must happen. And I'm sympathetic to the viewpoints
of my friend, Congressman Thomas Massey of Northern Kentucky that

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votes against everything. And when I argue with Tom, I say, well,
give me the alternative.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
He said.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
The alternative is not to approve any deficit spending at all.
And make no mistake about it. If republic act is
they should act by Memorial Day. They're going to authorize
an additional five trillion dollars to the national debt. As
the ceiling right now it's a thirty seven trillion, and
the Republicans are saying, we need another five trillion dollars
to even it out. And of course, what happens in politics,

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we have four to eight years of Republicans, then eight
years of Democrats, and four years Republican then eight years
of Democrats, and none of the policies of any of
these characters actually are implemented.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
To see what happens so the only way.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
And I think that Donald said that this morning in
this ridiculous interview on Meet the Press, that essentially this
is going to take some time. You can't flip a
switch and suddenly these countries treating us unfairly for decades
will suddenly be fair.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
So put their backs up against the baverbarial wall and
at that point there'll be fairness. And I trust the President.
Do you trust Donald Trump? Yay or nay? Or do
you want Kamala Harris and the White House and Tim
Walltz come on? And so I'm gonna quiz A US
Congressman Warri Davidson is one of the leaders of the
House of Representatives about what lies ahead, what happened in

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the first one hundred days, but more importantly, we're now
about a week into the second one hundred days. And
of this second one hundred days, the Trump tax plan,
economic plan must be implemented by the Republicans, then see
if it works. Every time tax cuts have been employed,
they have worked every time because it produces more jobs
and more revenue by slightly cutting tax rates from like

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thirty nine to thirty six percent in high earning Americans,
the top one percent pay about forty percent of the taxes.
If you make four hundred thousand dollars or more a year,
you pay forty percent of the taxes. But your your
constitute one percent of taxpayers one percent pays forty, the
top five percent pay seventy, the top fifty percent pay

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ninety eight percent. We already have the system that the
Democrats Billy ache about that is disproportionately high income Americans
pay more than others, and maybe they should. I like
to have a f tax. By the way, are a
national sales tax? That would be fabulous, But we're gonna
deal with Warren Davidson on that. Plus later on is
The Great News Nation reporter and anchor Natasha Zuvez going

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to talk about some of the difficulties in California prisons
and also the amounts of plastic and every human body
that we have. And also later on is a doctor,
doctor Jared Ross, to talk about hormonal blocking of the juveniles.
We now have more reporting on that from HHS, but
until then, a personal note. This has been on the

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National News the last two nights. I watched it again tonight,
and you may know that Hamley County Deputy Sheriff Larry
Henderson was murdered. Murdered on a Saturday afternoon while he
was doing some necessary work on the on the crowds

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for the commencement ceremony at the University of Cincinnati. What happened,
and this is somewhat convoluted, and the twist in this
case is truly unbelievable that typically typically it happens regularly.
It's a typical event for kias and hundays to be
stolen because somehow they're easy to steal. Cincinnati, northern Kentucky.

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Your hometown in Missouri or Idaho is no different. There's
a criminal element in every town, including the city of Cincinnati. Well,
there was a Kia stolen on Thursday in a small
town in northern Kentucky, and the four individuals involved in
the in the theft of that vehicle decided to do

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a little joy riding. They ended up and in a
condominium complex one way and one way out in East
Price Hills, Cincinnati, Ohio. And the owner of the Kia,
what he had done was put a tracking device on
his vehicle, so as the car was being stolen, he
dialed nine to one to one. It went out and

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the police were able to follow the vehicle from northern
Kentucky into the city of Cincinnati, which is about a
ten minute trek, and they followed they stolen Kia into
a parking lot of a Conominium project in East Price Hill.
There was one way up and one way out, and
so the four they're juveniles, but eighteen and nineteen years old,

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they're teenagers. The four teenagers involved were having fun in
the car and they pull in and there's two or
three police cars marked police cars coming up behind them,
and one blocked the exit so they couldn't leave. And
so when the two cars came up, Cincinnati police put
on the sirens and all of a sudden, it was

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a jail breaks outside of the car. The four individuals
of the car were later identified as Jurell Austin eighteen
years old, and de Anthony Bullock's nineteen years old, Sincere
Grisbee eighteen years old, and a young man eighteen year
old Ryan Hinton, about to be shot. At this point,

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the four of them exit a high speed and if
you've been on the video, you can see that this
condo project is right against a large wooded area. So
these four kids began running toward the uh for the
wooded area to escape the police, who two units four
police officers started chasing them. You can hear on the

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tape one of the officers yelling, gun, gun, gun. Now,
if you're a police officer, you know what that means.
You draw your weapon out immediately. From the start of
the of this pursuit to the finish was a total
of six seconds until the Ryan Hilton was killed by

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a police officer for some reason, not only to him.
Ryan Hinton, the eighteen year old who I was told
has a serious juvenile record but no adult record. Helly
just turned eighteen, decided take with him out of the
car a nine millimeter with an extended meg and the
mag stuck about eight inches out of the butt of

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the nine millimeter. As he was running tither and fro,
he slipped and fell almost immediately coming out of the Kia,
fell to the pavement and you can hear on the
police body cam the weapon, the handgun hit the pavement
and that's when one of the officers yelled gun, gun, gun.

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And at this point there was another officer from Cincinnati
who was about twenty feet to the left of the
officer yelling gun. At that point, that officer pulled out
his service weapon and this Ryan Hinton character, eighteen years old,
came out between the two dumpsters. In his right hand

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was a nine millimeter with an extended meg that the
officer said he pointed it toward me, and at that
point the Cincinnati police officer fired five shots to hit
the thief one of the chest wood in the arm
and he went down. At this point, the other three
were running through the woods and at the scene the

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police are seen providing first aid to Ryan Hinton eighteen
years old. Also on the body cam you can see
the nine millimeter to his side with an extended meg
and there was a projectile in the chamber at that point.
The officers didn't know this, but there was another weapon

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left in the Kia that was going to be used
by one of the other three. So at this point,
Ryan Hinton, the eighteen year old soon to be dead,
had the option of running away without the without the handgun,
he decided to take it with him. When he fell
in the pavement, almost as soon as he started running,
he slipped. He had the option at that point to

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keep running and leave the handgun behind. He didn't make
that decision, and at some point he made the decision
to chamber around. Now, if you have a semi automatic weapon,
you know what that means. A quick pull of the
trigger and the projectile comes out about two thousand feet
a second, and because of the extended mag he had
the ability to fire about twenty two shells. There were

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four cops on the scene in uniform, sirens blazing, and
mark police cars. It's the exit between the dumpsters. One
officer yells gun, gun, gun. They pull out their weapons
and according to this unknown at this point, unnamed Cincinnati
police officer, he perceived and from the body cam it's

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not clear, but you can see the handgun. You can
see Ryan Wilton running a Hinton running, got shot. Five
shots were fired to hit his body, and he's dead.
They got the K nine units. They located the two
of the three and they and the fourth one in
the Kia was picked up the next day. So here

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we sit Sunday night. This thing has a twist that
is truly tragic and unbelievable. It is the policy of
the City of Cincinnati at this point to show to
family members as quickly as possible the body camera footage. Now,
one may argue good or bad, right or wrong? Should
you do that or not? Should you wait for the
whole investigation to take place. There's other body camps to

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look at. There might have been a body cam, might
have been some sort of projectile available at some other point.
There might have been a camera on the condo. Who knows.
But within twenty four hours the Chief of Police and
Cincinnati and the mayor went to the corner's office and
that they showed the body cam of the officer killing

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eighteen year old Ryan Hinton, who was in possession of
a gun head in his right hand with an extended
meg And the family of Ryan Hinton was extremely upset
at the k of their loved one by a police officer.
That's another matter for another day. Tragic twist is about

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to occur for reasons known only to him. The father,
the thirty eight year old father of the eighteen year
old who's dead. His name is Rodney Hinton Junior. He's
thirty eight years old, and the dead eighteen year old
is named Ryan Hinton, not Rodney, but Ryan decided to
leave the coroner's office. The Great Doctor Lastmi So Marco

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is the corner of Hamilton County within an hour or two,
he finds himself. He drove to a situation near the
University of Cincinnati with the stated intent of murdering a
police officer standing there doing traffic duty was a deputy sheriff,

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Larry Henderson, who had spent thirty three years with Hamilton
County as a deputy sheriff, and he retired December thirty
first of last year, so he's been out about four months,
and he volunteered for extra duty, and there were thousands
of people going to the UC campus for commencement ceremonies,

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and he was simply doing traffic duty in uniform, a
deputy sheriff uniform with an orange vest. For reasons unknown,
the father decided to avenge the killing of his son
at the hands of Cincinnati police by driving his vehicle
to high rate of speed into the body of Deputy

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Sheriff Larry Henderson, killing him almost instantaneously, and then wrecking
his car against the telephone poll The murderer, the father,
thirty eight year old Rodney Hinton, was taken to the hospital.
He had suffered minor injuries. He was treated and released.

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So the father of the eighteen year old, in his
mind took revenge on any police officer he could find,
and unfortunately, he drew from northern Hamilton County down the
University of Cincinnati, about a ten mile trip, looking to
kill a police officer. There were no skid marks. In fact,

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he went against traffic. It was busy then because there
were thousands going to the commencement ceremony, thousands, and he
decided to avenge the killing of his son, who was
in possession of a nine millimeter handgun with an extended
mag and had another extension in his pocket. He was

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full of nasty weapons that he would have used against
those police officers, but Cincinnati police got the drop on
him and killed him first, eighteen years old. So the
father took in his mind revenge against the killing of
his son by hunting out an innocent police officer to
murder in cold blood using his car. I don't know

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what to say. As you may know, I've been in
Hamilton County for most of my adult life except my
time in the University of Toledo, went to law school there,
and I had met Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson once or twice.
I often do events for the Sheriff's department or the
police in one way or another, or highway patrol, or

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a judge whatever it might be, or prosecutor retiring. I'm
a law enforcement kind of a guy. I've met him
once or twice. Cannot call him a friend of mine,
but I met him once or twice, happy, cheerful. This
guy volunteered for the SWAT team. This guy in his
career volunteered for the dive team. This time in his
career was a trainer at the Academy. This guy also

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was a bomb tech who worked with ATF And through
his thirty three years, he received every commendation from all
the sheriffs of Hamilton County, including Charmaine mcuffey, the current sheriff,
that they could give to someone after thirty three years
of service disarming bombs, diving in the Ohio River and
other lakes and ponds, training other police officers, and best

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police practices. And here he is four months after retirement
of thirty three years, and a cold blood murderer named
Rodney Hinton, the father of the eighteen year old, decided
to take revenge and kill this good man.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
So before you go to sleep.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Tonight, say the prayer of Saint Francis, the prayer of
Saint Michael the Archangel and our father Na Hail Mary
for the repose of the soul of Larry Henderson, who
gave his life for his fellow citizens.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
He gave his life.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
By Billy Cunningham.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Let's continue and I'm going to take some calls right
after the bottom of the news hour eight sixty six
six four seven seven three three seven. I could do
shows every Sunday night on the number of cops killed
and CEOs, corrections officers, FBI agents have been killed, and
marshals and police officers. It's very dangerous and we don't
need more danger by importing into America five million criminals.

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I heard the President earlier tonight talk about five million trials.
How do you stop the entire jurist prudential of this
country by saying there must be due process to every
criminal alien here, that somehow the three million criminal aliens
under brock Hussein Obama would report it with little or
no due process because they're not unentitled to it. Criminals
that come here illegally should be sent back to their

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home countries after they serve their sentences.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
On top of the.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Home grown criminals, we have like Ryan Hinton, who unfortunately,
at the age of eighteen, ment a whole series of
very bad decisions, is now shall we say dead, and
his father took revenge by killing the first police officer
he came across. He simply wont and a murder someone

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in uniform, and that was Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson. And
sick and sad, and I hope he gets the death penalty.
We'll see about that. Let's continue with more if a
line becomes available eight sixty six six four seven, seven
three three seven. Your calls are next, go Cunningham with
you every Sunday night. Now let's continue and take somewhere

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take some of your calls, and very sad. There's going
to be about three hundred police officers, deputy sheriff's corrections officers,
FBI agents that killed total of about three hundred this year.
There'll be another fifteen to eighteen thousand wounded. And they're
killing the finest one. Someone like Larry Henderson gives up

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thirty three years of his life and survives as a
bomb tech and as a diver. And as an instructor
working with ATF and the FBI, and then in a
simple little thing such as traffic control. On Friday at
a commencement procedure, he's hunted down by someone. The two
parties never met each other, didn't know each other. The

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father of the eighteen year old who and my view
tried to kill the police and he was shot first.
Thirty eight year old Rodney Hinton, is looking for revenge
to anyone in uniform. It happened to be Deputy Sheriff
Larry at Larry Henderson. It's an unbelievable circumstance. Let's go
to your calls coming up later as a Congressman Warren

(20:36):
Davidson on the first one hundred days of the Trump term,
and also today's various interviews with the President and Mark
and Missouri. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show, and Mark,
how are you.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Well?

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Bell.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
That's a sad story. You said a salute to your
police officers there. We lost a paramedic here in Kansas City,
attacked by a patient killed with the knife. So it's
dangerous job.

Speaker 7 (20:58):
It's just.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
Down words, sick thing, Yes it is.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
But Bill Pour I getting my name Coort what you
said about due process for these twenty million illegals? Did
FDR get due process when he put innocent Japanese Americans
into Intermit campus in the nineteen forty four just because
I guess he thought they were a danger and.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
They didn't mark they did nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
The great majority of those Japanese were American citizens convicted
of nothing who should have been here. We're talking about
gang bangers committing crime that should not be here exactly.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
And but the Supreme Court if I and I'm a
lay law person here, but ruled in Koramatsu the US
that FDR had a right to do that because he's
a paner in chief. He thought they were a threat
even though they weren't. It's insane that they were a threat.
But now we have an actual threat of these gang
members and all this other stuff, these evil people, and

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President Trump has to supposedly take twenty million people to courts.
It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They're stackling his
job as the commander in chief, as a chief law
enforcement officer. It is just it's a dangerous situation right now.
They're handcuffing him on purpose. It's a coup going on
in this country with the judicial branch. They don't care

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about the country. They just want to get Trump any
way they can. This is lawfair extended now into his presidency,
and they couldn't care. That's about the safety of the
American people and what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
And I just hope.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
I mean, first of all, he also mentioned about Congress.
I'm not sure whether they have a right to shut
down these courts. Yes, and President Trump because they brought
him about. And President Trump. I mean, in my personal opinion,
I don't think these judges have any more of a
right to tell President Trump what to do than any
citizen does. I mean, it's nowhere in the constitution. President

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Trump is the commander in chief. He's heaving the executive branch.
He's the chief law enforcement officer. He's doing his duty.
The only thing way they can deal with President grumby
liking his impeachment from what I understand, So this is
just crazy.

Speaker 8 (23:06):
What is going on right now?

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Well, Mark, look at it this way.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Under Barack Hussein Obama, at least three point one million
illegals are deported without due process, three point one million.
On the rate he's going the Trumpsters yet he's deported
about twenty eight or twenty nine thousand, not three point
one million. So this is all about politics. And secondly,
they want these individuals to stay in the country. The

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Democratic Party out of work with the Republican Party to
get out of Get the hell out of America. Anyone
who commits a crime here, who's here illegally, get the
hell out. If you hear illegally, get the hell out.
And maybe have some more H one B visas that
allow people working to stay and know who they are.
Sign them up. This is you have a year, three years, whatever.

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But we have to begin with the idea that if
you're a Brego Garcia, you need to be out of
this country. Back to O Salvador and Republican Democrats want
this country to collapse. Whenever something good happens, like Friday's
numbers are really good on the employment sector and the
market went way up. It's back over forty thousand, you
will not hear a peep out of the Democrats. When

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his policies are beginning to work, and if he gets
the tax cuts through and there's growing in the economy,
we're gonna we're gonna more reasons to celebrate, so they'll
find something else that Democrats want this country to fail,
will want us to be downtrod in the dirt and
the mud of life, and anything that good happens in
this country is bad for the Democrats. And so they
want three million to five million. How do you have

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ten million trials? How do you have ten million lawyers?
How do you have ten million court reporters and representation
and appeals?

Speaker 3 (24:41):
You can't do it.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
It's impossible. And the Supreme Court's going to rule when
it gets to them that Trump is right and the
Democrats are wrong. You want to bet me hot fudd
Sunday on that the Supreme Court will stand with Donald Trump.

Speaker 8 (24:54):
I hope you're right, But how long will that be?

Speaker 7 (24:57):
Months?

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Months?

Speaker 6 (24:59):
These Democrats they don't even care about these terrorists. They
go down and visit in pal Salvador. It's all a show.
Everything they do, nothing is real, Nothing is about.

Speaker 8 (25:08):
What they say.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
It's about it's all about power and getting a Trump
and expanding their power. That they don't have any core ideas,
and that's how they should be debated. And that's what
I have a trouble with Republicaus. They hate to cut
them down but they first of all, they're kind of week.
They're afraid, like you say, right now these tax cuts.
There should be no debate. That's just extending the tax cuts.

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And they should tell us who these Democrats really are
and what they're all about. Will they say what you
just said? No, they'll not say, well, are your colleagues
on the other side. And I know there has to
be the coorum on the floor, but these people are
trying to destroy this country. And President Trump says it,
and a few congress people say it, But I mean,

(25:52):
I say this a lot of times when I call you.
This is a perilous is with these people because they
don't care about anything. They don't care about one hundred
and twenty two injunctions against President Trump. But it's all unconstitutions.

Speaker 8 (26:03):
They'll keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, Mark, Mark, if the Democrats truly cared about due process,
why didn't they raise the argument when when Obama was
in office and deported three point one million. Where were
the Democrats then, if they cared about the idea of
due process, where were they?

Speaker 8 (26:19):
Oh, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
Where was the media?

Speaker 6 (26:21):
They don't care. It's all about their You're right, all politics.
It's it's not our ideas versus your idea, and we
have a debate about it. It's how can we undermine
people here or there? The Republicans, how can we undermine Trump?
It's it's you know, I can't think of another word.
It's evil what they're doing.

Speaker 8 (26:40):
I don't know if this.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
Always has been the case. Politics has always been a
brutal game, but they seem beyond that. They always said, well, Mark, Mark.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I would say this.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
We had an election, and we determine what direction this
country wanted to go by a wide margin. And he's
been in office since January the twentieth, a little past
one hundred days. It is incumbent upon the party that
loses to lower their head a little bit and say,
you know what, what I think the country should do
is not being done because we lost. These issues are

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on the ballot, illegal immigration and deportations, they were on
the ballot. Trump won, they lost, and the courts got
to know their rule and shut their mouth. And when
it gets to the US Supreme Court, I'm confident that
the Supremes are going to rule eventually in favor of
letting Trump do what Trump can do. I can't imagine
Donald Trump telling the executive telling the judicial branch of

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government who to hire and who to fire. The judges
can't tell the executive branch who to hire and who
to fire. And the president can fire members of the
Congress saying your staff is wrong, I'd put that person
in this other position. But the judges think they can
tell the president how to conduct foreign policy and who
in his branch of government he should keep and who
he shouldn't keep.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
That's not the way it works.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Let's continue with David in Pittsburgh and then Bill and
Orange Park, Florida in Pittsburgh, the home of the Steelers.
Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And David how
are you?

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Bill?

Speaker 8 (28:05):
How you doing on?

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Not much of a football fan, but on two points
I please, I'm going to keep in prayer, and those
the officer that was killed.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Larry Henderson, murdered in cold blood by the father of
the eighteen year old killed by police who was in
possession of a nine millimeter with an extended mag What
was he going to do with that gun?

Speaker 7 (28:25):
Do you think?

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Right?

Speaker 9 (28:27):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Kill more people, including officers? Say Bill, how much you
wanted better? I'm going to add, you know a little
what a little gasoline to the fire.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
But how much you want to bet your father?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
He's posted online about the unjust aspects of black kids
being killed by by cops. He's expressed racist notions online.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
And uh, and not a Democrat?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Then well I would I would guess if I had
a guess, I would say a Democrat. But but but nonetheless,
politics got nothing to do with What has something to
do with this is that showing the father the killing
of a son who controlled his own death.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
All he had to do was get out of the car,
put his hands up.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
We have a juvenile court system in Hamilton County that
puts nobody in jail, and we have an adult course
session that puts nobody in jail for like car thievery.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Are you kidding me? All he had to do is
get up, put his hands up. You got me.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
He'd be out of jail within six hours. And Deputy
Sheriff's alive, and he's alive. He decided to take the
gun with him on the chase, should have left it
when he fell and tripped in the parking lot.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
He consciously made a decision to pick up the gun.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
The officers are yelling, gun, Gun, Gun, the weapons come out,
and all of a sudden, within two seconds, he's dead.
And the person who responsible for his death was Ryan Hinton,
who is eighteen years old. He caused his own death
by his behavior. Then his father won hunting, won hunting
for someone in uniform exactly.

Speaker 9 (30:02):
Bill.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
On an unrelated point, if I may, and I don't
mean to get off course or off taught again, I'm
going to pray for that poor officers, for the deputy's family,
Larry Anderson Henderson. Yeah, Bill, I'm getting really frustrated with
Pam BONDI.

Speaker 8 (30:18):
I know she she's got a want on the plate.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
I know Dan and me and Bongino's there, Cash Mattel.
I know they still got to get rid of all
the Deep States and the DOJ. But Bill, I want
to see this Epstein files released. And for some conservative commentators,
I'm not going to mention names. I listen to other people,
to your great some people think that she Justice Roberts's
name may be on those Epstein lists. I'm just saying

(30:42):
for your arguments sake, Bill, I don't know if you'll
agree with me, but with all due respect, I respect
Pam BONDI, but she needs to keep her pretty face
off Fox News and start doing her job. Bill, there's
a lot of people that are getting really frustrated.

Speaker 8 (30:56):
She just like Chest Sessions or you do.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
I'm not knock in her, Bill, She's got a chance
to prove herself. And I know Tpamini o' donald has
faith in her. But Bill, I'm looking at Ken Paxton
as our next attorney general. Bill, I loved him.

Speaker 9 (31:12):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
I'm asking this.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
She's only been in office about six weeks, and everything
she's done up to this point indicates to me she
knows what's going on. Do you trust Cash Patel and
Dan Bongino?

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yes? I do?

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Right now? Why why you know all these reports? Who
was on Lodino Island?

Speaker 9 (31:33):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Bill Clinton?

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Was that?

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I won't mention names. Why not just it's been a decade.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Why not release the information available, Let the ships fall
where they may.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
And if it's a big read my mind.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Buddy, I was just thinking that. But right, But Bill,
I'm just saying, and I don't mean to keep it going.
But if I mean, if from what I'm here from
some good reliable sources in the even on Rumble and
the other conservative areas, Uh, I'm hearing that Roberts name
could I'm not saying it is, but there's a good
case his name's on it.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I'd be shocked. But nonetheless, you know, I've been shocked
so many times in my life. I don't have any
fingers up. But I trust in simpidly Cash Betel and
Dan Bongino. I trust And here it is what May third,
we got, we got a long we got a long fourth.
May fourth, we've got a long way to go. If

(32:26):
call back, call back in September, and if we go
through the next five months, on September the fourth, and
you tell me, you know what, we got nothing. We
don't have the Epstein files. We don't have any action
whatsoever on Russian collusion, delusion, I'd be I'd be shocked
that those who put this country through a living hell,

(32:46):
we got no action whatsoever against doctor Anthony Fauci for
the lies he told into Congress. And we've had give
me to the end of the year, six months from now.
If this isn't out, I'd be surprised. If it isn't out,
then there ought to be hell to pay. Beginning with
I think Pam Bondy. But but Pam BONDI I trust
her well. I trust even more Cash Pattel and Dan

(33:09):
bone especially Dan Bongino. I love that guy and I
trust him. And he's been in office what about a month.
Cashptel has been there about eight weeks. Pam Bonnie's been
there about nine weeks, and it's the first week in May.
So let's see what happens. My thousands and old millions
are listening. Let's continue, Bill cunning into the Great American

(33:29):
Live at your home of all great Americans. Bill Cunningham
with you every Sunday night. You know something must be
going right. I noticed the enlistments in the US Army
Marines Air Force are way up. That the same thing
is happening with law enforcement. It's a tough job, almost impossible,

(33:51):
especially when you reflect upon the murder Hamley County Deputy
Larry Henderson at the hands of Rodney Hinton as a
revenge killed for another agency, the Cincinnati Police, taking the
life of his son in possession of a nine millimeter
extending meg. When you have targeted assassinations for political purposes
of law enforcement, that's another element you rarely see. Because

(34:16):
Henderson had served as Hamlet County Deputy chare for thirty
three years, had nothing to do with the attempted arrest
of measures Jarrell Austin or de Anthony Bullocks or sincere
Grigsby or Ryan Hinton. He retired and was doing traffic
duty in uniform as a special deputy when he was
targeted for murder by an aggrieved father who saw the

(34:39):
videotape of his son's killing and death brought about by
his son's behavior and decided to kill a cop. And
at this point he's in jail with no bond. Let's continue.
We have Bill and Orange Park, Florida. Bill and Orange Park, Florida.
Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Bill, how are you.

Speaker 10 (34:58):
I'm pretty good, Bill, Thank you for asking.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
Yes, sir, Oh listen.

Speaker 10 (35:02):
Before I get to my question, I've got to give
a comment your Easter Sunday show. In my opinion, sir,
that was the finest show.

Speaker 8 (35:09):
That you have ever done. And I would love to
get the transcript.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Well, it's somewhere. It's somewhere out there because it's a podcast.
And to me, it's proof that he was to Christ
because there were seven circumstances where after he was murdered
by the Romans that Jesus was seen by one time
by five hundred people. And if you have any doubt
about it being the truth, look it up and it's available,

(35:35):
and it's proof that no Jew left that cross alive.
And when the spear went into his side, into his lungs,
into his heart, make sure he was dead. He was
deader than a doorknob. And he raised out of the
dead because he is the Christ. And there's proof and
evidence objectively of the truth. And those that don't accept
that can't handle the truth, because that is the truth,
and that proves he was divine.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
Absolutely.

Speaker 10 (35:59):
I believe that Mohammed, boot Up, Confucius, all of them
throughout history are all lying in their grades.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
One is, one isn't.

Speaker 10 (36:08):
But it's at the right hand of God.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I believe. So I believe.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I went to Master today and I go to a
wonderful church in Cincinnati. By the way, uh Jade Vance
is a member, and uh I love it. I love
the church, Catholic Church.

Speaker 11 (36:22):
I go to.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
It gives me.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
It gives me a sense there we're made for some
definite purpose, and that is to do well, do good,
and to leave this world and leave your family better off.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Than you found it.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I hope I've done that. But we only have about
we only have to tell you what. Bill, call back
next Sunday night. I want to talk with you. Up
against the clock. Got to hit my my, my right numbers.
But Bill, please call back and tell Danny Boy next
Sunday night that I'll be with you and I'll put
you up first. Bill from Orange Park, uh, Florida, Danny
Boy Gleason, write that down. Let's continue. Bill, I'm sorry,

(36:54):
up against the clock. And we're gonna hear soon from
Congressman Warren Davidson about what's going to happen in the Congress.
And there's certainly an effort by some to say that
the Republican Party has lost its way, its principles by
agreeing to raise the debt limit by five trillion dollars.
And what's the alternative. The alternative is to go on
the same path we're on, and we can't continue like that.

(37:16):
And I hope the tax cuts all past. The economy grows,
economic activity takes place, more taxes are paid, and away
we go. But Bill, I'm sorry, sound like a great
guy from Orange Park, Florida. If you call in next Sunday.
Tell Danny Gleeson, my executive producer, that I said to
call in first and we'll deal with you for the
next Sunday night. If your comments, if you still want

(37:38):
to comment, let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham, the Great American.
Say a prayer tonight for the repose of the soul
of Hamley County Deputy Shriff for Larry Henderson.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
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Speaker 2 (38:43):
Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Many in the last few
days has been a reprise of what's happened the first
one hundred days with Donald Trump. And by the way,
it's all bad, It's all terrible. Watch some of the
interviews with Terry Moran of ABC News, et cetera. It
gets worse every time. It's terrible. We elected this guide
to maybe secure the southern border, check mark boost the

(39:03):
American economy, and check mark limit the size of government.
No problem there, and become a nation that commands respect
around the world. I think that's going on as I speak.
But none of that is representative what the media is reflecting.
That's why we have direct contact with Congressmen and senators
and those in the Trump administration and one of the
great leaders of the conservative movement and the Houses, Congressman

(39:25):
Warren Davidson and congressmen.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
And I saw you a few nights ago in CNN,
I think it was maybe six or seven o'clock, and
you were in battle with one of the hosts there
about some of the good things going on. And one
thing I noted that the Media Research Center says the
coverage of Donald Trump is more than ninety three percent negative,
and I thought, I haven't seen the seven percent and
so on the ground in Washington. As the president in

(39:51):
the first one hundred days and now we're about several
days a week into the second one hundred days kept
his promises to the American people.

Speaker 7 (40:00):
Well, look that was part of the seven percent.

Speaker 12 (40:02):
Is they allowed me on CNN to say, well, here's
what actually happened in the first hundred days, because normally
CNN viewers don't get that kind of information.

Speaker 7 (40:11):
I mean, you think about it.

Speaker 12 (40:12):
In the first hundred days, we got a secure border,
a focused military, America respected at home and abroad. Education
focused on teaching our kids instead of indoctrinating them, doge
finding the money, Criminals going to jail, illegals being deported.
So far, this is the best sequel ever.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
Things are going.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Well, well not according to the media.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
And one good thing Congressman Davison I like is that
the so called media, mainstream media has lost its pinache.
They used to be able to dominate, and right now
that's not the case because of podcast and talk radio.
Let's focus on this big beautiful bill that leadership, says
Speaker of the House Johnson said, might be done by
Memorial Day, more likely the fourth of July. Give me

(40:54):
the three or four things in this big beautiful bill
that's going to pass that will generate even more economic
growth in this country.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
Well, the big thing is is it'll prevent a tax increase.

Speaker 12 (41:05):
Honestly, if we don't act, everyone's taxes are going to
go up, so we actually have to take action. Of course,
we have to raise the debt limit. Unfortunately, the government's
spending like crazy. We can't turn off spending fast enough
to prevent that. But we are going to turn off
spending that is is able to be avoided. I mean,
we're going to keep the government focused on the essential things,

(41:25):
like focusing our military, and that's going to be a
plus up for military and a plus up for border
security so that we can do the right things with
our federal government and stop doing crazy things.

Speaker 7 (41:35):
So that's where you know, doose finding the money. A
lot of these things are going to get turned off.

Speaker 12 (41:39):
We're going to save hundreds of billions of dollars hopefully
trillion plus while we do it. But you know, President
Trump's also going to keep taxes, not only going to
avoid tax increase on everybody. We're going to get the
pro growth tax policies implemented that Democrats let expire. And
we're going to get things that he promised, like no
tax on So that's the key.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
And why is it all in one big beautiful bill.

Speaker 12 (42:05):
Well, because you know, while the House can pass things
with a simple majority, it takes sixty votes in the Senate,
and they won't give us, you know, seven votes from
the Senate. Heck, sometimes it's hard to hold all fifty
three Republicans together in the Senate, so we need those
guys to be able to get a simple majority to
get things done in reconciliation. Is the bill that gets
it done. That's why we're all focused on one big,

(42:25):
beautiful bill.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Congressman, one of the issues is debt limits, and I
often have on Congressman Tom Massey of Northern Kentucky, and
that guy makes a lot of sense. The items on
the plate delivered to Donald Trump on January the twentieth
a're really incredible. The hand he was dealt, both in
Ukraine and the Middle East. The China difficulty at trillion
dollars a year of American dollars going to China not

(42:48):
coming back, in addition to the spending spending, spending two
trillion dollars of annual budget deficits of the total debt's
thirty six trillion. Do you have some empathy for the
Tom Massies of this world who do not want to
increase the debt limit at all? And I always say
to Tom, if you don't increase the debt limit. What happens,
he said, Well, then we have a crashing of the economy.

(43:11):
And maybe that's what someonant, But I know you're a
conservative conservative, you went to West Point, served in the military.
As far as are you somewhat empathetic to the viewpoint
of Congressman Tom Massey and others that does not want
to increase the debt limit by one dollar?

Speaker 7 (43:28):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 12 (43:29):
And look, I mean I ran my first campaign a
lot of the messaging was don't bankrupt America. And then
I got here and started seeing the lack of will
to turn off spending, and I was like, well, it's
not compassionate to bankrupt America, but they seem pretty dead
set on doing it. I think it's important for everybody
to understand that when you raise the debt limit, you're
not actually spending money. You're just increasing your line of credit.

(43:52):
It's like saying, well, I've got a credit card that's
got a ten thousand dollars limit, but now I want
to try to get a credit card that's got a
twenty thousand dollars limit. Thing is, you know, while you
at home would know not to hit that limit, or
if you did, to start you know, stop charging on
it and start paying it down so you get rid
of it. The government's only way to operate is to
keep increasing the credit card limit. And that's that's you know,

(44:15):
that's what we're going to vote on. I mean, the
House said we'll raise the debt limit by four trillion dollars.
The Senate said, we'll see your four trillion and raise
it one. We want a five trillion dollar increase. And
there's really no path feasible that we could stop spending
enough money. I mean, if we just spent like it was,
you know before COVID and left, revenue was the same,

(44:37):
I mean, the budget would be balanced and it wasn't
like we had a small government before COVID. No, we
spent about four and a half trillion dollars before cod.
If you adjusted for inflation, that'd be over six trillion
right now. But over and above that, we're going to
spend about seven point three trillion this year, So you'd
have to cut spending by like one and a half
trillion dollars in a year to get back to a

(44:58):
balanced budget. So that's the kind that's the kind of
change that it would take. So everyone's really gun shy
about turning those things off. You see how people are attacking, Oh,
you want to take away Medicaid and social Security and
all these things.

Speaker 7 (45:12):
You want to kill grandma.

Speaker 12 (45:13):
All those attacks get politicized, and the reality is you're
talking about I'm pretty sure we don't need to fund
a transgender opera in Colombia. You know, those kinds of
nonsensical things you're too crazy to even make up, right,
Like this is who would come up with doing this?

Speaker 7 (45:28):
But they really did these things.

Speaker 12 (45:30):
That alone isn't going to save massive money, big reforms
that were bipartisan, like you know, expect you know, everyone
I know would help a friend in need or a
family member. But at some point you would say, hey,
if you're able bodied, I mean, you're going to get
a job, right, or at least try to get a job.
You're going to you could volunteer or go back to school,
you could do something. But under Obama, back in the

(45:51):
eight financial crisis, they turned that off around the country, right,
and and we want to turn that back on. That's
just a common sense thing that everyone would do for
their own friends and family. Why would it be mean
for the government to do the same thing that will
save hundreds of billions of dollars every year just that alone.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
In fact, something's happening with the debt because in March
we had a very low borrowing of it, because maybe
it's because of the illegal immigration. I looked at twenty
nineteen numbers. The federal budget in twenty nineteen was four
point one trillion twenty nineteen, and that wasn't exactly the
Dark Ages five six years ago. It was four point one.

(46:27):
Today it's seven point three. So we've had about a
fifty percent increase in federal spending since twenty nineteen. Why
can't we go back to twenty nineteen spending levels at
maybe the Penny Plan and get that done?

Speaker 11 (46:40):
But you have no.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Cooperation from the Liberal Democrats, zero zilch, nada, And so
we're not talking about rationing of some type or other
to just go back to twenty nineteen levels. And you're
saying that economically we can't do that.

Speaker 12 (46:55):
Well, not only economically, politically, I mean a lot of
the spending is popular with the public, and frankly, for
I wish I could say that it was like all
the Republicans are united here, but if we had one party,
that was good, you know, for big government and one
party that was for small government. When we get these
windows like right now where Republicans control the House, the Senate,
and the White House, well we'd get smaller government. But

(47:19):
we're thirty six trillion dollars in debt because the most
bipartisan thing in Washington, DC is spending money. So there
are big government Republicans now, granted they want to spend
money on other things besides that, then Democrats do. But
the question is how are we going to come together
to actually get less government? And if not now, when
I mean you talk about, you know, waiting for a
crash or something, right, I mean, why would we wait

(47:41):
till something is completely failed before we would take action.
I mean, everybody knows we're headed towards a path that
we can't sustain. Can't we work together to turn it off?
And I think that's the hope is in this one big,
beautiful bill. We're at least we're not going to get
balanced right.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Away, but we are going to move in that direct
and that's going to be a big win as far
as the future government spending and tax increases, etc. The
response of the Democrats are now conducting sit ins and
other sillyess problems on the steps of the Capitol is
to grossly increase income taxes. That is, if you make
above whatever number you want to draw it. I think

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the top one percent make four hundred thousand or more
a year. They want to keep spending more and more
of the money and taxing more and more. And that's
never been You can't tax your way to prosperity. And
when I watched the Democrat you would anticipate, I'm a
bit of a history major, in the first one hundred
days of any new president, the parties put down their
red and their blue cloths. They get together and say,

(48:39):
let's work together because the voters have decided what they wanted.
November the fifth, I think even Kambala Harris said, let's
give the voters what they wanted.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
They ordered. This is give it to them.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
And so now what Trump is doing, and what you're doing,
is giving the voters what they want, which is less
government strength around the world, shut down the southern border,
et cetera. But how much cooperation are you getting from
Democrats to do what the American people said wanted to
be done.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Are you getting any cooperation?

Speaker 7 (49:09):
I mean very little.

Speaker 12 (49:10):
Look honestly, you know, it is that basic. I mean,
do what you said you would do. I mean, look
what Donald Trump is doing. He's doing that. The question
is is Congress doing that? We're not keep it up.
I mean, and part of the challenges we've passed a
lot of things in the House. People are like, where's
this at. Yeah, we actually passed some of those reforms
in the House. We just can't get a vote in
the Senate because it takes sixty votes. Democrats aren't helping

(49:31):
at all, even on things that they've historically agreed on,
because they.

Speaker 7 (49:34):
Don't want to help Donald Trump. Now, to be fair,
they're doing what they said they would do.

Speaker 12 (49:39):
The question is our Republican's going to unite and do
what we said we would do, and then we have
to adapt because you know, they didn't campaign on weaponizing
the courts against Donald Trump, but that's exactly what they did.

Speaker 7 (49:50):
And thankfully the Trump administration has taken action.

Speaker 12 (49:53):
I mean, you know, think last week, you know, judges
in a judge in Wisconsin was arrested for to help
an a legal immigrant evade you know, detention by federal authorities.

Speaker 7 (50:05):
And you know, you go to court, you're.

Speaker 12 (50:06):
Supposed to get justice, not evade justice. And that's exactly
what she was trying to facilitate. And good on the
administration for actually charging her.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Well, and in fact, the other Wisconsin judicial members have
come out in support of Judge Dougan, a Court of
Appeals judge and ever. But fortunately the Wisconsin Supreme Court
suspended her because you cannot commit crime in court wearing
a robe and claim some sort of cloaking device keeps
you from following federal criminal law, and she worked actively

(50:36):
to help a criminal alien escape. And the other judges
in Wisconsin instead of saying to her, you shouldn't do that,
Judge Dougan, they still have and said she should have
done that, And that, to me is the most shocking thing.
Individuals make misconducts all the time. You commit crime, you
might do things that are wrong, But to have other
judges sworn to upholl of the law come at your

(50:58):
side and stand with her, that's the bigger problem.

Speaker 12 (51:03):
Well, that's exactly what's happening in district courts. I mean,
you know, you're treating non citizens as citizens at every turn.
They you know, you got this Maryland man hoax that's
going on with a man from El Salvador has returned
to El Salvador, and they act like it's the end
of the world, and they want them to have.

Speaker 7 (51:19):
Years and years of appeals. He's already had those things.
He's been ordered to remove twice.

Speaker 12 (51:25):
Judges and law enforcement have found him to have affiliation
with MS thirteen gangs, and they want them to have
all the due process in the world.

Speaker 7 (51:32):
And I thought, you know, surely we could.

Speaker 12 (51:33):
Find some common ground in saying, at least guys like
this that are illegally in the United States and affiliated
with MS thirteen shouldn't be able to have the right
to keep him bare arms. And they go, oh, no,
everyone's got all the constitutional rights. And you guys don't
want me to be able to buy guns, but they're
okay with the MS thirteen gang guy buying them. I mean,
people have lost their minds. And that's exactly they're trying

(51:55):
to nullify the entire distinction of citizen versus non citizen.
I mean, Joe Biden campaigned on flooding the countries with
the illegals. He did that, and now they want to
prevent the Trump administration from removing those people that are
illegally in our country.

Speaker 7 (52:10):
And we have to win on that or we're not
going to have a sovereign country anymore.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
You know, Congressman Warren Davidson of Ohio. One thing, Obama
was the deporter in chief. He deported three point one
million illegals, far more than Trump did in the first
term or even the second term of Trump. It won't
even approach that number. And if you gave hearings and
due process to all three point one million illegals that
Obama deported, that the porter in chief was Barack Us

(52:35):
and Obama, we would still be having hearings into the
next century for three point one million, much less the
fifteen million here illegally, we can have hearings, and we
can't have due process because if we do that, the
whole legal system shuts down.

Speaker 13 (52:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (52:52):
Well, let's not say that the Trump administration won't far
exceed that yet. I hope they will, but they're not
on pace too.

Speaker 9 (52:57):
No.

Speaker 12 (52:58):
I mean, the reality is we haven't even hit three
hundred thousand yet, and they were bringing over three hundred
thousand illegals in per month at periods of time during
the Biden administration. So I mean, the you know, it's
just a basic math problem. The outflow has to exceed
the inflow, and that's happening right now, but it has
to go where the outflow during these four years exceeds
the inflow during Biden's four years.

Speaker 7 (53:20):
And then we have to pass a law, you know,
the one big beautiful bill. One of that. We're going
to get money in to secure the border.

Speaker 12 (53:26):
But the thing that you can't do with reconciliation is
structurally change immigration law.

Speaker 7 (53:30):
And that's what we need.

Speaker 12 (53:31):
I mean, this can't be like a tennis match where
you're watching one side back and forth. Citizenship matters. No,
it doesn't, Yes it does, and it's all executive action.
We need a law that compels every single executive in
the United States to enforce the law, and if you
fail to, when we have to put people in jail.
I mean, to me, it's mind blowing that we couldn't

(53:52):
impeach and remove Alejandro Majorkis, who was Secretary for Homeland Security.
He was enabling an invasion of the country when his
charge as secretary is to stop it. He was flagrantly
violating the law of the United States and he's never
been charged with it. We didn't even remove him from office.
With impeachment, and I think it's shameful. I mean, these

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folks have to be held accountable. If there's no reckoning,
they're going to do it again every chance they get.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Can't go back and forth every four years from We've
got to institutionalize these changes. But Congressman stay strong there
in Washington. I don't like increasing the debt ceiling again,
either four trillion or five trillion, but it's something that
must be done in the short term to have long
term benefits. And Congressman Warren Davidson, once again, thank you
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And do you

(54:39):
promise to stay strong?

Speaker 7 (54:42):
Absolutely?

Speaker 12 (54:43):
You know, by God's grace and the encouragement of my constituents,
I know they sent me here to fight for them.
I mean, I think a lot of people think that
their constituents sent them here to follow orders in DC.
I don't know anyone that could win on that message,
and you certainly can't win as Southwest Ohio doing that.
We're here to fight for Southwest Ohio and the greatest
state in the country. We're making great progress and hopefully

(55:04):
we get a government small enough to fit back inside
the constitution. You know, we can afford one that small.
The problem is we got a fatal overdose, a government
coming our way. We got to turn some of that off.

Speaker 9 (55:14):
Well.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Donald Trump was selected elected in order to fundamentally change
the direction of this country. The military enlistments are up,
there's more people volunteering and going into the FBI. There's
this sense of mourning in America once again in Congressman
Warren Davidson, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
God bless you and God bless America. Thank you very
much and all your listeners. Thanks Bill, God bless you.

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Let's continue with more Bill cunning in the Great American,
Live with you, Billy cunning in the Great America. Is
always good to look at the first one hundred days
of every president. This thing has been fabulous, unbelievable. Despite this,

(55:56):
evening the attributes of sixty minutes against some of these
Democratic lawyers. Think about where we would be if that
cackling Kamala Harris is in the White House and not
Donald Trump. Unbelievable. Coming up next is doctor Jared Ross.
He's with Do No Harm Medicine Dot Org about what's
happening in the major cities. You might recall that Colorado

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is doing it and many other states have already done it.
That is, this gender dysfoya movement is giving to the
liberal movements and many hospitals and medical colleges some serious money.
We're talking about billions of dollars every year. It's almost
like doctor mengelas stuff going on and he's going to
expose it. Plus later on we have Natasha Zuvez is
here from News Nation to talk about what's happening in

(56:41):
female prisons and is what should be happening, what isn't happening.
Plus the microplastics that are everywhere in our society and
now you can protect yourself from them. And once again
we have anticipation sometime this coming week that Iran will
be attacked because they are the head of the snake
for attacking Bengurian Airport. And at some point I think

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Israel and US will have enough. So this next week
should be very interesting, very provocative, and good because until
the head of the snake is extracted, the attacks on Israel,
the attacks in America will continue. And by the way,
this is the complete support of the Gulf states, including
Saudi Arabia, Cutter and so.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Many others, So let's continue.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
It's more align becomes available eight six six six four seven,
seven three three seven. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night.
Bill Cunningham, The Great America. And one of the articles
of faith among the left wing liberals certainly is the
fact that if someone identifies as a different gender, the

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mere expression of the idea that I identify as a
different sex or gender means you must deal with me
in that fashion. And we never elect youngsters, We never
let someone on the age of eighteen to make adult decisions.
But somehow we allow pediactory conjender dysphoria to be like
almost a mascot of the Democratic Party, which is costing
serious lives down the road. The argument of doctors have

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been in the past, you want a live son or
a dead daughter. But the research indicse that is a
bunch of bs. Joon and you and I noaly as
a senior fellow at do No Harm. Doctor Jared Ross
and doctor Ross, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
first of all, can you tell the American people the
three or four major findings of h HS about gender

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dysphoria among.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
The young.

Speaker 13 (58:28):
Bill, thanks so much, for having me on the show.
You know, this is a really rigorous medical report with
exceptional scientific integrity that finds that the current so called
standard of care in the US is completely backwards and
starts with the most invasive treatment first instead of starting

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with the least invasive approach of providing you know, high quality,
realistically based psychotherapy to these chill who are clearly struggling.
And this report echoes the report coming out of the
UK and also the standard of care in most of
Europe and in growing portions of the industrialized world.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
And doctor Ross the reason the UK finding throughout most
of Western Europe is important. They're about ten years ahead
of US as far as allowing this gender dysph you
or not just hormonal treatment but surgery to occur. And
for them to say maybe fifteen or twenty years down
the road that we're going to be at soon is important.
So what was the finding of the UK court and

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what is the practice now available in Western Europe?

Speaker 13 (59:40):
Yeah, Bill, you know, the HHS report does a wonderful
job even in the executive summary of talking about the
history of pediatric gender medicine. I think a lot of
people outside the field don't understand why the experimentation on
children started, and it really started in the Netherlands, and
we followed the Dutch down this pathway. It's called the

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Dutch Protocol, and the Dutch have realized that this is
completely wrong and they have reverted and as we talked about,
the UK has changed their guidelines with the groundbreaking CAST
report last year by doctor Hillary Cass. And we've seen
bands on this mutilation and injecting children full of hormones

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in the UK, Belgium, Sweden, Finland, even Italy and Argentina
recently Australia, New Zealand.

Speaker 8 (01:00:34):
The list just goes on.

Speaker 13 (01:00:35):
It is so beyond time that the US get with
the program and stop mutilating these kids.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
There was a rapid expansion and implementation of a clinical
protocol that lacks sufficient scientific and ethical justification. That's the
first finding, doctor Ross. Can you put that in layman's terms?

Speaker 13 (01:00:56):
Yes, this was the w PATH which is the World
Professional Association for Transgender Health. And there's nothing world about this,
as we've discussed, certainly not a professional organization in respect
to how they behave themselves and health is helping people
and curing disease, not causing suffering, so they really don't

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deserve three out of the five letters in their name.
But what this guideline was created with was removing all
of the safeguards that were brought over from the Dutch
and then using political influence to remove age restrictions, putting

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ideology and profit ahead of science and ahead of good
medical care.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
And in fact, doctor Jared Ross, the best so called
medical institutions of America from the Cleveland Cleveland Clinic all
over the country has embraced the idea of pediatric dysphoria
and the treatment unless they're barred. Here in the state
of Ohio, the lawmakers have barred all this stuff from
the from the children's hospitals, including the Cleveland Clinic, and

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they're making referrals now to other Blue cities and Blue
states to do this kind of stuff. Can you step
back from this? Whenever I have a political dispute with someone,
I often say, follow the money. How big of an
industry is pediatric gender dys for you, given to the
hospitals and the doctors, etc.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
How much are we spending?

Speaker 9 (01:02:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:02:31):
Bill, you know our database stopped the harm database, and
it stoppedthharmdatabase. Dot Com has has studied this across the nation.
We found that nearly six thousand children underwent these surgeries.
Our data was not designed to capture billing numbers, but

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we found one hundred and twenty million dollars worth of
billing over five years. And when we look at this
data in the state of Pennsylvania, we have a lot
more data in the state of Pa. We think that
we're probably only capturing about ten percent of that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
So it's a big business, big business, huge business.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Secondly, six thousand kids that could be the tip of
the iceberg. We have some blue cities and blue states
that require this to be part of Blue Cross, Blue Shield,
or you're not in healthcare, you must provide these services,
and in fact some cities, some states like Colorado and
California is getting close to it. If you don't agree
to have your fourteen year old transition, the state can

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come in and take your child away.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Is that correct?

Speaker 13 (01:03:36):
Yes, we have a lot of an alarming growing number
of states and cities in fact, that are so called
sanctuary cities for these confused children and their organizations and
people helping these children run away to these places where
they become wards of the state and then taxpayer funds

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are are used to support injecting them full of hormones
and mutilating them. It is just unbelievable amount of harm
that's being done to these kids.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Without the mutilation occurring. If they just stick on the
area of the hormones. Describe what happens to say, a
female or a male body. You're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen
years old, what is the ten year effect of taking
these hormones on, say a female body.

Speaker 13 (01:04:27):
Well, Bill, they really sell it as a four step process.
Its first social transition, which is often sold as harmless,
changing names and pronouns and clothing, but we know that
there's a lot more harm there and that has unfortunately.

Speaker 8 (01:04:45):
Not been as well studied as we'd like it to.

Speaker 13 (01:04:48):
The next step is these puberty blockers, which again they
say are harmless, and we have so much good research
on that now showing that it decreases bone mass, it
decreases brain development, and has lasting negative impacts on these children.
And then you move on to those cross sex hormones
giving girls testosterone and boys estrogen. And you know with

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boys who take estrogen, they will have breast tissue growth
and that is permanent redistribution of fat. Girls will grow
facial hair, deepening of the voice, which happens very quickly
and is again completely permanent.

Speaker 8 (01:05:30):
And that's not to mention any of the unintended effects.

Speaker 13 (01:05:34):
The cancer, the heart attacks, the strokes, the debilitating mental
health effects of injecting your body full of cross sex hormones.

Speaker 8 (01:05:45):
It's just unbelievable that we're doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
And when you talk about yourself, like doctor Mengela, I'm
watching my country, the country I love adopting this left
doing radical philosophy rejected by most of the world, and
that we're going straight ahead forward in many Blue cities
and New States Blue States. What happens to a male body.
Let's say you're thirteen fourteen, and you like to play

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with dolls. You might wear a skirt down. Then what
happens to the male body, say ten years have taken,
assuming there's not the mutilation surgery, what happens to the
male body ten years out?

Speaker 13 (01:06:21):
Yeah, this is so regressive, right, We're forcing people, children,
to comply with sex stereotypes. And we know that in
mass that might be true that boys like to play
with trucks, but if a boy plays with a doll,
we now have to medicalize that and say that that's
not a boy who may have a feminine interests, who

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may grow up to be gay or bisexual. We have
to say, no, it's a girl trapped in a boy's body,
and we need to get that kid on puberty blockers
and estrogen and fast track him for surgery. And as
I mentioned the you know, the intended effect is the

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breast development. But then we know that estrogen has powerful
effects in blood clotting, and these boys are taking estrogen
it at ten times the dose that occurs normally in women,
So they have a risk of blood clots in the
legs that can travel to the lungs. When those travels
and lungs, those.

Speaker 8 (01:07:25):
Can be fatal.

Speaker 13 (01:07:26):
Sometimes we see that in the emergency department. Unfortunately, it's
called a pulmonary embolism.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Doctors are doing this. You're a doctor, doctor Jared Ross,
but you're telling me that medical doctors at some of
the great medical teaching hospitals in the country are doing
what you just said.

Speaker 13 (01:07:46):
Yes, it is an epidemic, and we are starting to
see a large group of doctors speaking out against this.
Our National Group of Plastic Surgeons has spoken out against this,
we're starting to see groups speaking out against the American
Academy of Pediatrics, groups speaking out against the AMA, and

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as I mentioned, groups speaking out very loudly against the
corrupt WPATH world so called World Professional Association for Transgender Health,
who uses ideology and financial incentives to set policy that
other organizations sign on to instead of doing what's best

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for these poor children.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Doctor Ross, Does the American Medical Association agree with the
idea of pediatric gender dysphoria and the treatment through hormones
and surgery? Does the AMA stand with this radical idea.

Speaker 9 (01:08:50):
Bill?

Speaker 13 (01:08:51):
The AMA does stand with this, But I think it's
very important that your listeners understand that the AMA does
not represent the majority of an American positions. Only ten
to fifteen percent of American physicians are members of the
AMA today.

Speaker 8 (01:09:07):
The AMA has fallen.

Speaker 13 (01:09:10):
From graces years ago, and so despite the fact that
the AMA puts their name behind this, behind the WPATH guidelines,
that does not mean that most physicians support this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
Well, it's like the American Bar Association. I practiced law
for decades and I have for years not belong to
the American Bar Association because they've gone far left. THEMA
has gone far left. Let me play Devil's advocate. Let's
say you're a kid, and let's say you're.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
A loving mom and dad. You're in Denver, Colorado, and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
You believe that somehow that your son is trapped in
a male body and your son wants to be a female.
And so what you do is a loving mom or dad,
you take your kid to your pediatrician, and over a
period of months or a couple of years, you relate
to the pediatrician that my son thinks he's a girl.

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And then the doctor, the treating physician, says, let me
refer you to this eminent teaching hospital in Colorado Springs.
And then you, as a mom and dad, take your
son to this ama qualified, wonderful research medical degrees from
Harvard and Yale University of Chicago, and this wonderful teaching

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children's hospital says you ought.

Speaker 9 (01:10:23):
To do this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
And so you have your pediatrician implicitly saying, let's do
it a fourteen year old boy how to become a girl.
You have the teaching hospital, which some of the best
in the world are in Colorado saying yes, this ought
to be done so, and then you have the state
saying you have to do this if it's permitted. In fact,

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if it's not approved by an insurance company, that insurance
company can't do any work on the state of Colorado.
And so are the parents between a rock and a
hard place. Do you excuse that the kid wants to transfer,
wants to switch genders? The pediatrician says yes, The experts
say yes. Who are you, as a mom or dad

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to say no, I'm playing devil's advocate of course.

Speaker 11 (01:11:08):
What is your.

Speaker 13 (01:11:09):
Response, Bill? You know you say this happens over years.
Is speaking to the pediatricians, but we know that's just
not the case.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:11:18):
These these clinics are set up where the kid walks
in and in one half hour visit, they walk out
with a prescription for cross sex hormones. These parents are
well meaning, they're being lied to by physicians, by mental
health professionals, uh, telling them this suicide myth.

Speaker 8 (01:11:37):
We've thoroughly debunked that myth.

Speaker 13 (01:11:40):
We've had we have studies from Sweden, from the UK
showing that suicide rates actually increase after after these surgeries
and adults that there was, you know, no increase in
suicides in the UK when they banned puberty blockers. Nationwide
for children, puberty is uncomfortable and kids go through phases.

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You don't let the kid play, Let them, you know,
behave how they want to behave. They might grow out
of it, they might not. But if they don't grow
out of it, that's fine. They can grow up to
be a happy, healthy, fully intact in their body and

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just have an interest that may be not traditional to
their sex.

Speaker 8 (01:12:28):
There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
So they switch. ALA causes more problems than it solves.
In fact, all the studies indicate there's no lessening of
the suicide race, or depression or unhappiness. It used to
be treated as a mental disorder that required serious psychiatric
or psychological interference. It did not mean that you took
these puberty blockers. It didn't mean you went through a surgery.

(01:12:50):
It meant, let's see if this is a phase that
passes in time. But there's no money in that. There's lots,
there's billions of dollars and pat pediatric genderness for you
and adult gender dye for you. And for a long
time I thought, well, if you're twenty five years old
and you want to switch genders, that's on you. But
on the other hand, if you're twenty five years old

(01:13:11):
and you say to your optimologist, you know I identify
as a blind person, take out my eyeballs. I don't
think the doctor would ever do that. So even for adults,
this is a problem. Well, doctor Jared Rosser, it's wonderful.
It's do no harm. And I think before parents dealing
with this to first get the research and the indications

(01:13:31):
what to do before they proceed, and don't pay attention
to the to the liberal democratic medical complex a lot
of money involved, and get your kid help, because a
kid that identifies differently than what they truly are needs
some help. It doesn't need puberty blockers and sexual dysfunction
and mutilation of their bodies. But once again, doctor Jared

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ross do no harm is the website? Is that the
correct website?

Speaker 13 (01:13:58):
Do No Harm medicine dot org Do you know? Harmmedicine
dot org is our website. People can find a link
to our stop to Harm database, and we welcome members
of the public, concern citizens' parents to join us. There's
no cost to join, and we have one lots of
wonderful information.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
You know, I think in twenty years we're going to
look back on this the way Western Europe has said,
what in the hell are you doing to the kids.
This is doctor mingla stuff. And to think that the
medical profession, the AMA would be in agreement our least
acquiescence is a serious problem. But nonetheless, doctor Jared Ross
once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And let's preach again. Do no harmmedicine dot org. Do

(01:14:42):
no harmmedicine dot org. And doctor Jared Ross once again,
thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you,
doctor Bill.

Speaker 8 (01:14:49):
Thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
God bless you. Let's continue with more. There's the truth.
The truth will set you free. Don't rush down this
because it doesn't solve our problem. It simply creates other difficulties.
Cunningham with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham. Let's continue.

(01:15:15):
Doctor Jared Ross was unbelieved. Every significant medical study long
term indicates that the movement by Democrats and Liberals under
general under gender dysphoria guidelines are wrong. It causes more
harm than it resolves. Everyone shows it, but the Democratic
parties encapsulated with one of the issues. One of the

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ten commandments of the Democrat Party is that gender dysphoria,
as they call it, must be dealt with in the
early years that better results. Where the study out of England,
the study out of Scandinavian countries, now the study out
of HHS here in America proves that to be a lie.
Let's continue with more coming up next as the Great
Natasha Zuvez of News Nation and more Bill Cunningham with

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you every Sunday.

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Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Bill Cunningham, the Great American of course.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Natasha Zuvez is a correspondent with investigative reporter and anchor
with News Nation and I note it online. Congratulations are
in order. She received four Emmy nominations. One is for
the Forever Chemical story, which is in the background, but
that's a story that's ongoing. Also, there's another story out
by Natasha'szuvez about a rape culture, a rape club prison

(01:17:18):
in California, which is probably present throughout the nation. But
first of all, Natasha Zuvez, welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And first of all, congratulations are in order
about the Forever chemicals. So we've done this story once
with you. I've done it about a year or two
ago with attorneys, and just briefly congratulations. Secondly, just tell
the American people again about the Forever chemical story and

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why it affects every American today.

Speaker 11 (01:17:43):
Yeah, Bill, thank you so much, and it's always great
to speak with you, and I share these congratulations with
you as well. You really helped us spread the word
about this story Forever chemicals painting our food supply. I
got so many pieces of mail, so many messages from
your listeners after they heard our conversation when this first
aired a few months ago. And it's because it affects

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every single one of us. Ninety seven percent of us
already have this forever chemical in our blood and we
likely have no idea and this is a forever chemical
that is linked with cancer and other serious health effects.
You know, these giant companies three M. DuPont have made
billions of dollars off of these forever chemicals that are

(01:18:25):
in everything from our waterproof jackets, our carpets, our couches,
our nonstick pans, the takeout boxes that we use at restaurants.
And now a growing number of farmers are finding forever
chemical contamination in their soil because essentially they were sold
a lie, which is that it was their civic duty
to spread treated human sewage, human wastewater and sludge onto

(01:18:50):
their fields as fertilizer, that they were doing their civic
duty by keeping it out of landfill, because this stuff
was too bad to put into land, Bill, and so
why not put it on American soil? And they did.
Millions of cropland acres affected by this. And these forever
chemicals are called forever because they do not break down naturally.

(01:19:12):
So even a farmer who did this maybe once in
the seventies is now finding his land, his water, his cattle,
his cows, all of it is shot through with toxic
levels of forever chemicals. And forty eight out of fifty
states are still potentially contaminating their land with fertilizer sludge
as we speak. It's a big story, Bill, and really

(01:19:34):
one that all of us should care about. And this
is going to change state by state, with US putting
pressure you and saying we don't want this on our
land anymore, we don't want this on our soil, we
don't want this for our farmers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
They're kind of known as p fass. I almost can't
say all the words, but just if you can google
forever chemicals, it pops up, and one of the articles
of faith is bottled water, and of course the water
out of the faucet. Nobody wants to drink water out
of the faucet. After you and I have gotten together
on these issues and the lawyer two years ago, that's
all I drink.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Is water from the faucet.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
I will not buy bottled water because that's a small
part of the problem, but it exists. We think we're
doing something right by getting bottled water, and that in
reality we're doing something wrong getting bottled water.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
The water out of the faucet is always better. Is
that fair to say?

Speaker 11 (01:20:22):
Oh, it's so hard, Bill. I mean, when you drink
bottled water, you run into issues with the microplastics and
the endocrine disruptors, the contaminants that are in the bottled water,
and you know, the frebber chemicals that are in that
water as well. But unfortunately prebber chemicals have become so
pervasive through our environment because of corporate greed that it's

(01:20:44):
in the tap water as well. And the EPA has
just started setting at maximum contaminant levels for our tap water.
But this is a long time coming. It's you really
need to unfortunately, and I interviewed the EPA about this,
was not impressed with the answer. They say, it basically
is incumbent upon you, the American individuals, to call your

(01:21:05):
water district and say, oh, hey, are cancer causing chemicals
in my water? And that is so unfair. And I
said this to the EPA administrator I interviewed. I was like,
how can you tell me, like, how did the horse
leave the barn? You know, fifty years ago on this
and now you're telling me I have to call the
water district to make sure the water stakes to drink.

(01:21:25):
It really tear It makes you want to tear your
hair out, Bill, honestly, it really does.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
I want to get onto the rape club in the
California presence before we do that. Was there guilty knowledge
that Dow Chemicals etc. Fifty years ago? Did they know
or not know what they were doing?

Speaker 11 (01:21:43):
I'm so glad that you asked this question, Bill, because
part of this investigation was us. And by the way,
people can still watch this, and I encourage you to
watch it. It's on YouTube. If you search Growing Broke,
Growing Broke, you can watch the full investigation. You will
meet the farmers impacted by this, and you will find
out how you can protect yourself and your family. We

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go through the paper trails that shows that three m
DuPont and others knew decades upon decades ago that this
was potentially toxic to people. Then they saw that it
started to build up in human blood. And Aaron Brockovich,
the Aaron Brockovic, the one played by Julia robertson that movie,

(01:22:24):
the Huge Activist, says, this is the shell game. This
is them covering up. This is lies in deceit over
the years so that they could continue to make billions
in profits. And by the time the EPA gave them
a slap on the wrist, Phil, it was a drop
in the bucket. They had made their money already at
the expense of all of us. And I get my

(01:22:47):
blood tested on camera in this special as well, because Bill,
I have tried so hard.

Speaker 6 (01:22:53):
I do all the.

Speaker 11 (01:22:54):
Things I eat organic, and I have filtered water, and
I switched out my dental flocks because all of our
dental flocks is coded in this forever chemical that is
the wax on our dental fluff. And still I have
moderate levels of this in my blood, enough to put
me at risk for breast cancer and all kinds of
other issues. Through no fault of my own, bill and

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through no fault of your own either. This is just
living a normal life in the United States. And these
chemical companies have a lot to answer for.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Have they, Because at this point there's big judgments. That's
a drop in the bucket. But I would anticipate that
they still have made billions of dollars. But secondly, here
we are in May of twenty twenty five. Are they
still doing it?

Speaker 11 (01:23:38):
Oh, it's so fascinating. So you know, they have made
various pledges that they will try to I mean three
M for example, got back to us and said they
will try to discontinue use of pfast across their portfolio
by the end of twenty twenty five. They've already made
their money and this is already in the pipeline, and
other companies continue to make money from this. But also
what's really interesting is these things that are touted as

(01:24:01):
huge successes. For example, in twenty twenty three, there is
a multi billion dollar federal settlement over this contamination in
our nation's tapwater, already making their way into our US
public drinking water systems. But Patrick mccroy, an epidemiologist, told
us they are rushing to try to settle things before

(01:24:22):
the full scope of the problem is even understood. On
its face, it sounds like a victory.

Speaker 9 (01:24:27):
It is not.

Speaker 11 (01:24:28):
There is a reason these giant companies are settling all
of these water contamination lawsuits in the tap water because
we have no idea how large this problem actually is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Well, the YouTube growing broke pfast as is right there.
And lastly, is there anything you can do to if
you can't protect yourself because of dental flaws, because of
things that we want water bottles, because of the skillets,
the utensils, how do we protect ourselves today?

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Is there a way? Yeah, actually protecting yourself?

Speaker 11 (01:25:02):
It really comes down to so two things. On a
macro level. Aaron Brockovich and others say, you need to
every time you have the opportunity to vote for something,
and you can vote against pledging our farmland because it
is such a tragedy bill. And I mean, these are
farmers who are multi generation farmers, right, I mean his

(01:25:23):
great great granddaddy cleared the land and now he's going
to hold a bankruptcy auction because he can't afford to
hold on to the land. These are the farmers that
I met who have been destroyed by this, and we
collectively have to stand up not only for our own health,
for our children's health, but that is not enough, but
for the American farmers who are completely being gutted by this.

(01:25:43):
So macro level, anytime you have an opportunity to it
sounds canned and corny, but it's true. Call your representative
say you're not going to stand for this anymore. That
anytime there is legislation that has to do with fledging
and continuing to poison our farmland, anytime there has anything
to do with forever chemicals in our drinking water, that
you are going to stand up and make your voice heard.
On a micro level, there are things you can do

(01:26:06):
that can significantly reduce your exposure, and unfortunately it comes
to these very annoying individual choices, a switching out that
dental floss is really important. And I am not sponsored
by any of these people. I have found one that
works for me. It's called desert Essence, and they wax
with something else other than Forever chemicals. B What you

(01:26:27):
cook in really matters. You want to switch if you
can to stainless steel, you want to switch to cast iron.
Anything that says it's a nonstick coating you should regard
with a lot of suspicion. And then you can install
and under the SINC filter in your home for your
main source of drinking water that will specifically target forever chemicals.

(01:26:49):
I can't I cannot say Bill that it is not
ridiculous that it comes down to us having to shell
out a few hundred dollars to prioritize doing this.

Speaker 8 (01:26:59):
It's not right.

Speaker 11 (01:27:01):
But if this is something you care about and you
want to make sure every time you turn on your
tap that you have clean water, there are several companies
out there. I personally use one called hydra Viv. Again,
I am zero percent sponsored by them, and they did
not give me any sort of discount on my unit.
You enter your zip code and they match it with
your water district report so that they give you a

(01:27:22):
filter that specifically targets maybe the casium, maybe the frame,
or chemicals that are high in your area. These are
the simple things you can do.

Speaker 8 (01:27:30):
To try to reduce your exposure.

Speaker 11 (01:27:32):
And it's not fair. You should do it, and you
should do it, mad Bill, because it is through no
fault of your own. It is entirely through corporate greed
and also fedal level negligence. Because Aaron Brockovich says, you know, EPA,
where have you been? Where were you as all of
this was happening? Will I talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
This all day, about five minutes remaining. The rape club
prison system in California. Did your report on this? It's sickening,
it's disgusting, hard enough to go to prison, but it
passed around like a bottle of wine in prison among
the guards. Explain the results of your report on the
on the inside the California rape club prison.

Speaker 11 (01:28:14):
It is such an important story and I'm so glad
it is coming to light in this way. This is
a prison in California. It's called FCI Dublin, but it
was better known as the rape club and something unprecedented happened.
We know that sexual abuse happens all across the country
in our prisons.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
But the.

Speaker 11 (01:28:34):
Sexual abuse was so rampant, was so egregious, that the
US government last year actually paid out nearly one hundred
and sixteen million dollars to more than a hundred of
these female inmates to settle their lawsuits. I spoke with
these inmates. They tell me the abuse was everywhere. It
was in the cells, in the hallways, even the prison

(01:28:57):
church was not safe. We speak with one in particular,
Windy Ponzo, who alleges abuse at the hands of the
prison chaplain four times. She says she was at rock bottom.
She turned to faith, she turned to God, she went
to the prison church. She was abused by him terribly
four times. We speak with six of these women, and

(01:29:17):
you know their stories are going to stay with me
forever because when they tried to report the abuse, they
were silenced. Some of them thrown into solitary confinement. We
speak with a woman who was beaten by a group
of guards.

Speaker 8 (01:29:29):
She comes to the warden.

Speaker 11 (01:29:31):
The man at the very top is standing taking photos
of her naked body. She has literal bootprints bruises on
her body for months, and they throw her into solitary
confinement for seven and a half months and they tell
her family that she was dead. She tells me that
her husband passed away thinking that she had died in prison,
and they told them they couldn't find her body. It

(01:29:54):
is so egregious and really, I mean, you will hear
all of these stories in their own words again. They'll
stay with me forever. There's another woman who was abused
by the medical officer. She says she has to get
a shot every couple weeks for an autoimmune disorder. She
goes in for her shot and in the most graphic details,
she describes what happened to her. You could hear her

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heartbeat in her voice as she was telling this story.
And the issue that continues, and one of the main
reasons they wanted to come forward is twofold One is
that eight correctional officers, including the chaplain, including the ward
and other guards, a man who worked as a cook,
have been charged for this. They have all either pled

(01:30:40):
guilty or were found guilty and sentenced. The very last
of them, the most notorious of them, and I hope
women came forward. Sitting fifteen twenty feet away from him,
looking him in the eye as he smirked at them
as they told their stories. He maintains is in a sense,
and all the information was presented on what he allegedly did,

(01:31:03):
and it ended in a mistrial. A jury could not
come to a consensus. And one of the community activists
tells me, and several of the women tell me, obviously
this is devastating for them. They're going to have to
do this all again. Anew coming up in August or September,
that they really struggled with jury selection, that there were

(01:31:26):
ten men on the jury and two women at the
end of the day, and that is because they eliminated
any of the female jurors who had either been sexually
assaulted themselves or knew or loved anybody who had ever
been sexually assaulted. And so at the end of the
day they could only find two bills. They could only
find two women who fit that description, which I mean,

(01:31:51):
was this sad statement for our country that that is
the case and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Natasha and that particular case. Did those women go back
to the prison after they testified.

Speaker 11 (01:32:05):
They met me, They went with me to the prison
and walked those grounds with me, and it was just
the real experience. And you can see that in the
investigation it's up on the podcast The Truth of the Matter,
and you can also watch it on News Nations YouTube page.
And finally, Bill, I just want to say something that
we're uncovering. This prison was shut down abruptly at the

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end of last year. It was shut down in a
move that the judge described as ill conceived. On its face, again,
it sounds like a positive thing. This prison was obviously
shot through with this abuse. It should be shut down.
But the about six hundred women who were there were
scattered to more than a dozen facilities across the country.

(01:32:50):
A many of their families can no longer visit them.
But b we're uncovering that the retaliation is so egregious
and rampant that is continued in these new facilities that
these women are reporting having food with health, they're reporting
being thrown into solitary confinement, and they're reporting that the
rapes are continuing. When these correctional officers learn that they

(01:33:12):
come from FCI Dublin, the rape club prison, the rape
club prison, because they spoke out, because they turned in
their colleagues. So we are going to continue following the
threat of that story. These women tell me that FCI
Dublin was not a bad apple. Most of these women
had been passed around to a few prisons, so they
know they've been to multiple prisons here. And by the way,

(01:33:32):
all of these women in prison for nonviolent crimes, mostly
on drug charges. And they say that it is not
a bad apple. It is happening in every single facility
across this country. They say that we know that we
did a crime, we know that we deserve to be
in here to serve our time, but we.

Speaker 8 (01:33:51):
Do not deserve this.

Speaker 11 (01:33:52):
We do not deserve assault after assault, rape after rape,
to be silenced, to have our prison sentences extended, to
be overincarcerated, if we report this, to be thrown in solitary,
if if we report bill. It's been a real honor
to meet these women and tell their stories, and I
really encourage people to check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
The truth of the matter is the report News Nation
And Natasha zoove Az you're doing the Lord's work. Congratulations
on the Emmy nominations. On YouTube. Growing Broke is the
p fast stories about Forever Chemicals And Natasha, thank you
for coming on again. Let's do it again in a
couple of weeks. And Natasha, you're a great American. Thank

(01:34:34):
you very much.

Speaker 11 (01:34:35):
It's always a pleasure to speak with you. Bill.

Speaker 8 (01:34:37):
Thank you so much for the work that you do.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
God Busha. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham, the Grand
American Live with you every Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
Night by Bill Cunningham. Let's continue with more.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
I saw the hit piece against Donald Trump on sixty
minutes again and again and again. They will never report
on positive things occurring with Donald Trump. Only the negative
stuff is brought out. And some of these democratic law
firsts must be brought to he and I'm not sure
what the Supreme Court is going to do with it,
but let's face it, it's very difficult. So let's continue
with more. Coming up next is doctor doctor Jason Gould.

(01:35:11):
I'm sorry, Doctor Jared Gould is going to talk about
medical school and DEI and what's happened to the best
medical institutions we have in this country.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
And doctor Goule is going.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
To lay out what the rules are, what the rules
of the road are, what they should be and more so,
let's continue once again. I want to think Natasha and
Zubez for coming on, because fore warned is forearmed. I
thought drinking water out of a water bottle was good
I find out it is Bill Cunningham, the great American
with you and all great Americans, every son you know,

(01:35:47):
Jared Goole, I think welcome for the first time to
the Bill Cunningham Show. But Jared, first of all, give
us an overview of the problems. Then we'll get into
these specifics about the indoctrination of medical students and not
their medical education.

Speaker 9 (01:36:00):
Exactly. Well, thanks for having me, So we just put
out this report. The big problem here is that DEI
is pervasive across medical institutions. We obtained records from the
top public medical schools in the country, and in these
documents we found that medical students are being coerced and

(01:36:22):
to adopting diversity, equity inclusion ideology. This is reinforcing leftist
views on race, gender, and now even weight. Wait, and
they're doing weight so that future physicians don't just see
themselves as healthcare providers, but as agents of social change.
And there's much here. You don't just have the healthcare implications,

(01:36:44):
but many free speech implications.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
So it encompasses three areas, racial justice mandates and medical
school gender ideology mandates, and also wait inclusivity mandate. And
so let's talk let's back up just a little bit.
Why is DEI diversity, equity and inclusion, which at the
heart of race discrimination. In other words, please let us
racially discriminate based upon color. Framing white folks as inherently

(01:37:10):
racists and physicians as agents of social reform, tell us
the principle the foundation of DEI and what it does
to every institution that it infects.

Speaker 9 (01:37:22):
So DEI is a disease that has been ratting our
public education systems for decades. And I don't think that
twenty years ago you would have expected anybody to think
that this ideology would have become pervasive in our professional schools.
But it certainly has, and we found that out to
be the case with this medical school report.

Speaker 7 (01:37:44):
What it really is, at the.

Speaker 9 (01:37:45):
End of the day is activist administrators and faculty at
these campuses and these schools of medicine that see themselves
as as I said before, agents of social change, and
they forced this idea you on to students through all
kinds of mandates like DEI statements, hippocratic oaths, curriculum integration

(01:38:06):
and harassment policies, and broadly speaking, what the idea is,
it's framed around the oppressor versus oppressed hierarchy, and in
the leftist viewpoint, white men are at the top of
this oppression hierarchy and they oppress everybody else. But interestingly,
the left has been able to jetson in the gender

(01:38:30):
ideology and weight inclusivity into this oppression hierarchy. So transgender
people are now oppressed, but also obese people are now oppressed.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
And so in a practical way, unfortunately, I'm like a
white male, I'm married, I'm a father, I'm a practicing
Roman Catholic. I would imagine put that together, Well, what
chance would a young Bill Cunningham have getting into medical
school and coming out with conservative viewpoints?

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
What chance would I have?

Speaker 9 (01:39:01):
You would probably have zero coming out, probably zero ad
fants of coming out of any medical school with conservative viewpoints.
And even if you still got through the program with
conservative viewpoints, you would likely not express those viewpoints because,
as we detail in this report, dissenting these leftist views
come with consequence. There's just one example, well, there's many

(01:39:23):
examples of what just one that comes to the top
of mind is doctor Norman Wang. He was previously affiliated
with University Pittsburgh, and he published a peer review article
which was questioning affirmative action in medical education, and immediately
he was removed from teaching, barred from student contact. He
was accused of racism and this conduct, and he had
his article retracted without any recourse. He was not able

(01:39:46):
to defend himself. And it's people like that who are
really put into the spotlight and made an example out
of so that somebody like yourself, who let's say, as
conservative viewpoints, doesn't express those views in medicals.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
How is this possible?

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Because I think medical school research cancer is an equal
opportunity offender. Emergency room care doesn't make any difference what color,
what gender you are. You get treated when you go
to your primary care physician. And so how does it
work down to the patient level. I'm thinking about Cleveland
Clinic was sued recently, which is a fine institution, I thought,

(01:40:24):
because they enact Dei principles when it comes to practicing
medicine and a practical level. What does that mean when
you hit through it hit a Dei principle. How does
that change care?

Speaker 9 (01:40:38):
It warps care? It makes physicians in this context of
seeing themselves as social agents. If you have a white man,
let's say, who is severely ill, but a black female
patient who doesn't really need treatment, and you know it
is not in critical condition, this position has been indoctrinated

(01:40:59):
in ideology, might see it fit to serve that black
female patient first and leave the white male patients on
the bed suffering from whatever critical state he or she
or he would be in, simply because they have to
make up for so called historical historical oppression and whatnot.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
And what about the issue of admission to medical school.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
I know, to go into law school, there's some about
four times more applicants than spots, and so you fill
out forms and reports indicating what you've done in college,
and if you put on your essay to get into
law school, the activities you've been involved in, there's certain
activities that are check marked and other activities that are
lined through. What if you come out of college and

(01:41:48):
you're married, and you're straight, and you're white, and you
belong to a conservative group at Ohio State or UCLA
or University of Chicago, is that a disqualify trying factor
just to get into medical school.

Speaker 7 (01:42:04):
It possibly could.

Speaker 9 (01:42:06):
Be, unless, of course, you submit your DEI statement, which
is of course required at almost all of these institutions,
that speech for surveyed. If you want to get into
medical into medical school, even whether you're a student or
a faculty member applying for a job, they all require
that you submit DEI statements, which is effectively a political

(01:42:27):
illness test. It is to make sure that you are
going to towe the line on the racial hierarchy, ideology,
the gender ideology, and now possibly this weight inclusivity, which
is becoming more pervasive across medical schools.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
How about this one and your report gender ideology mandate
medical schools nationwide are embedding gender ideology and the courses, clerkships,
and policies requiring students to affirm in writing the patient's
gender identity. This includes chosen pronouns supporting social or medical transitions,
and recognizing gender identifying over biological sex, even for children.

(01:43:05):
I've had on other reports that eight year old girls
in certain public schools in blue cities and blue states
are being taught out of self pleasure themselves or at
nine year old boys are told about oral sex in
the third and fourth grade and ideology. You have to
identify with a pronoun, which sends the signal to those
making important decisions. You're part of that particular tribe. And

(01:43:27):
so the idea that you might recall, Great Britain about
a month ago had a report that they studied this
issue for twenty five years at one hundred and seven
thousand examples that gender transitioning causes more problems in adulthood
than it solves. And now last week or a few
days ago, the Great Britain came out the Supreme Court

(01:43:48):
of Great Britain England said that there's only two genders,
it's male and female, and that there was not one
hundred and seven different genders. And so when you talk
about gender ideology and recognizing the fact that one can
identify as the different gender than what you are, you
have to believe in those things to get through medical

(01:44:10):
school today.

Speaker 7 (01:44:10):
Is that correct?

Speaker 9 (01:44:12):
That's correct? Across all of we surveyed more than fifty
institutions across the United States, basically one medical school for
every state that had that had a public medical school.

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
Okay, and this was We.

Speaker 9 (01:44:26):
Found that about ninety nine percent of these schools mandate
this ideology either in their core curriculums, as part of
some kind of trans as part of some kind of
orientation training, or a surgical practice. So just For example,
at the University of Arizona, which we wind out in
our report, it mandates transgender medicine training, teaching that pediatric

(01:44:50):
transitioning this is from clothing all the way to puberty
blockers as standard practice.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Say that again, right, stop right there, tell me, University
of Arizona, repeat what is required for the This is
unbelieved that this is like six, seven, eight, nine, ten
year olds explain to say that again, please, Jared.

Speaker 9 (01:45:08):
Yeah, so the University of Arizona is mandating transgender medicine training,
which is teaching that pediatric transitioning this is from clothing
all the way to puberty blockers is standard practice. What
that simply means is if a little boy comes to
a physician and says, I feel like a little girl,
the physicians are being told that they should start them

(01:45:29):
with social transitioning, which simply means will put them in
little girl clothes and vice versa. And this works all
the way up to your teenage years, where you're eventually
given puberty blockers, which then leads to irreversible mutilation of
your sexual organs in order to affirm gender identity. But
it really gets even bizarre than that, Like at the

(01:45:50):
University of Missouri. They have an orientation that includes a
video in encouraging students to accept scenarios like biological men
receiving a gynecological exam. Why because it affirms the affirms
gender ideology. Physicians future physicians, and these students in medical

(01:46:11):
schools are being told that affirming the gender is standard
practice and if you dissent against that, you risk being
kicked out of medical schools because built into the harassment
policies are gender ideology mandates. So you have to use
the correct pronouns. It comes from the top down. If

(01:46:31):
you do not do these things, you violate a harassment
policy or you get an F in a class. You
have to do these things in order to get through
medical school.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
So Jared Gould, if I show up in an emergency
room in Missouri or Arizona and I have stomach cramps
and I announced as a proud American male, then I'm
having a baby. I'm having a baby here he's coming
and I have shall we say, genderous male genitalia. And
I show up in a knee r in Arizona or
Missouri and I'm having a baby. They have to treat

(01:47:03):
me as if I'm having a baby.

Speaker 9 (01:47:07):
I'm not exactly sure how that would work in an ER,
but I will say that it's becoming a parent. That
in the near future, if this, if this de ideology
continues to be taught in our in our schools, that
that will that is what will happen when you enter
in ER. I can tell you just from family experience.
Most of my families in medicine. My biological fathers an

(01:47:30):
ER physician. My mother is a director of a clinic.
They now have on their check marks for when you
enter into the er, when you're entering to get a
cat scan, your gender identity and then your biological sex.
And so the physicians that are responsible for providing you care,
even at the hospital level, are being told that you

(01:47:52):
have to affirm the patient's gender identity.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
So if identify as a woman, I go to the
R I want my ovaries cat scan or whatever they
have to Okay, Cunningham, We're going to cat scan your.

Speaker 9 (01:48:02):
Ovaries, I believe, So that's exactly what they'll do. I mean,
it gets so absurd that biological men are receiving a
gynecological exam. You have to assume that the absurdity stretches
all the way to er rooms, especially as we continue
to graduate medical students that are indoctrinated into this ideology.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Lastly, Jared Gould, you have weight inclusivity mandates under the
social justice framework. In medical school, students are trained to
approach obesity through sensitivity guidelines that deny the link between
weight and health. Physicians are pressured to prioritize affirming obese
patients experiences over addressing underlying health concerns. So if someone

(01:48:46):
is morbidly obese, there is not a connection between the
behavior on one hand and the physicality on the other
that physicians are pressured to prioritize affirming obese patients and
their and their one hundred pound condition. You have to
act as if there's no connection between being morbidly obese
in one hand and having bad health problems on the other.

(01:49:07):
The weight inclusivity, along with gender ideology and racial justice
kind of go together.

Speaker 9 (01:49:13):
Exactly. We found across all of these institutions more than
thirty percent of them had weight inclusivity or some form
of weight inclusivity in their documents or on their websites
or in their reading materials. What it is is a
part of this oppression hierarchy where the left have said, well,

(01:49:35):
if you are obese, it is not really a consequence
of your decisions, but because you are oppressed, and so
physicians have to approach obese patients with extreme sensitivity. At
the University of Texas at Austin, second year medical students
are told that weight loss efforts create a quote culture
of shame and are trained to exchange terms like obese

(01:49:57):
for people with larger bodies. And At ucas Structural Racism
and Health Equity course, which is an actual course, it
includes a topic on fat phobia as a concept equating
clinical concern of obesity with discrimination. So if you claim
that somebody's obese, or you say that they're unhealthy because
they're obese, you can now be discriminating against them.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
I'm not obese, but if I identify as obese, does
that make me obese? I'm not a female, but if
identify as a female, does that make me female? So
it's not the biological fact of your existence, it's what
you identify as and that Trump's reality is that correct?

Speaker 9 (01:50:36):
According to these files? You are correct?

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
Well, how do we get out of this? Can we
get out of it?

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
It's so inside the groundwater, the root system of medical
and the ABA the ame.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
How do we get out of it? I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:50:53):
Well. The first thing is that medical schools have to
return to their core mission, and that's to train skilled,
knowledgeable and ethical physicians, not ideological activists. The classroom has
to be a place for critical thinking and not political conformity.
So one of the first things that you can do
is get rid of these DEI mandates altogether. The Trump

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administration has gladly, and I think rightfully so put out
eos that tell universities they can't do this. Now, the
universities are still going to fight against this because they
see themselves as their own agents. In fact, the AUP
has said repeatedly that the administrators at college and university

(01:51:36):
campuses should ignore the Trump eos because they're betting on
a leftist president to come in in four years and
basically reverse everything Trump's doing. So we really have to
call on our legislators to codify these rules into law
and not just let them exist as eos. But the
public also has to get aware and get a grip
on what's going on with their institutions. These are taxpayer

(01:51:59):
funded in institutions. Their dollars are going towards educating idiologues.
And I think they're going to get a grip on
it when they get into a physician's office and they
start to see the detriment of their healthcare as result
of this practice.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
But most importantly, if in four years or so we
have Kamala Harris or a liberal Democrat back in charge,
all these things will be reversed. The southern border will
be wide open once again. Oh hell is going to
break Liosten. Lastly, Jared Gold, how do people get a
copy of this report?

Speaker 9 (01:52:31):
All you have to do is go to speech first
dot org and on our reports tab, just click that
and it's the first report at the top.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Jared Gold, We're in trouble. I mean, if I identify
as as an obese woman, that's not reality. And if
I go to a doctor when I'm forty years old
and say I identify as blind, does that mean my
eye should be taken out?

Speaker 9 (01:52:54):
I don't know, but according to these files, they might
say yes. And I'm with you. I'm horrified that what
we're going to get here are doctors who are going
to shove kids into gender chaos. They're going to favor
race over health, and they're going to lie to obese patience,
which is going to endangerous all for this deranged fringe.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Jared Gold, you're a great American and thanks for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Jared, Thank you
for having me. Let's continue the truth will set us free.
Bill Cunningham, The Grand American Live with you every Sunday Night. Hi,
Bill Cunningham, thanks for listening to this glorious Sunday night.
And once again, as I began talking about the murder
of Hamley County Deputy Larry Henderson at the hands of

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a thirty eight year old revengeful father, Rodney Hinton, who's
now in jail with no bond. As you may know,
this was stories on the National News tonight. And pray
if you can for the repose of the soul of
Deputy Larry Henderson, who gave his life as many other
cops have done the past several years trying to keep
us safe. But once again, may God rest the soul

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of Deputy Larry Henderson. Go cunning in The Great American
with you every Sunday night.