LNC is Visited by Three Spirits

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Large Ner Drunk Collider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel cast In, and I am lucky
enough to have joining with me after the holidays once again,
my brilliant co host, Jonathan Strickland.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm a little beeper.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
You're a little beeper.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, that's a that's a reference. That's a reference to
a YouTube channel that I really like.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Okay, I was like, you mean, like the the device
that was used back in the day.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh yeah, kind of. I guess it's it's like Morse code.
It was a it doesn't matter. It was just this
little phrase that was used in outside Xbox and Outside
Extra videos back in the day. I'm a little beeper.
First of all, welcome back everybody. We took a week

(01:05):
off for Thanksgiving, but we warned you about it, so
you've got no one to blame but yourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, and now we're back. Did you have a good holiday?
Did you have lots of good food?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I had lots of good food. I spent it with
my folks and my partner and my dog and we
all had a grand old time and then we came
back to home. We came back home and.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Fell asleep, which is pretlightful.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, it's funny because one of the things we noticed
that you know, Ariel and I chatted about this during
Thanksgiving week, is that probably because of Thanksgiving, Apple TV
pushed out that week's episode of Pluribus early, like it
usually comes out Friday night at like nine pm Eastern,

(01:53):
but it was already up by Thanksgiving Day, and I
didn't notice until Thanksgiving Day because I saw clip on
YouTube that was a scene from it. I was like, wait,
I haven't seen I thought it was going to be
a section from what episode I had already seen, but
as it started playing, I realized like, oh wait, this
is I haven't seen this. That's when I saw that
the episode had already gone live. And I thought, originally,

(02:16):
after Thanksgiving, we'll come home, we'll take a nap, and
then we'll watch Pluribus. But instead, after Thanksgiving, we came home,
we took a nap, and then went to bed.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
I mean, listen, that is perfectly reasonable and logical.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, we didn't actually watch plur of Us until Friday,
although we did see it a little earlier than nine pm,
so we did watch it a little early. But we'll
talk more about that when we get to the stuff
we've seen. How is your Thanksgiving with the multitudes who
visited your domicile?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, we had twenty people total, including me and my husband,
which is, you know, not the biggest year we've had,
but certainly not a small one. Really. Well, I always
bake for Thanksgiving, and Jonathan and I chatted a little
bit offline about like, was I going to be able
to get it done this year? Because I had a
show Saturday night before Thanksgiving, I had a show Monday

(03:12):
night before Thanksgiving, and I had a show Tuesday night
before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Plus plus you kept taking on more dessert ideas instead
of eliminating dessert ideas.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah. So, so I was able to do it, and
I was even able to do it quicker than normal.
I got done baking by one am. Oftentimes I'll be
baking till two thirty or three thirty in the morning,
and then I'll go to bed, and then I'll get
up early for the parade, and then I'll be dead
by the end of Thanksgiving Day. Whenever I go to
bed round three or four in the morning.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yikes.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, I don't. I am a night owl, but I'm
not that much of a night owl. I'm kind of
like a no time of day nightingale.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Right now, I'm rapidly approaching the age of Yeah, early
bird special sounds pretty reasonable to me right about now.
Dinner at three pm and bed by seven, Yeah, let's
do it.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, let me tell you, I'm gonna put my partner
on blast because oftentimes, like when we go to visit family,
they like to eat a big meal in the middle
of the day and then snack in the evening. And
he used to always because he's such an eight out well,
he doesn't do that. He doesn't do breakfast usually. He
usually does like a lunch and then a late dinner
and then snacks throughout the day. So it was hard

(04:27):
for him to adjust to. But so many times now,
especially on days that we'll sleep in, we'll have like
a small snack, do our chores for the day, have
a slightly late lunch, early dinner, big meal, and then
be like we'll want dinner later, and then we totally
don't want dinner. We're just snacking. So yeah, we're our
dietary habits at least are adjusting to.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah. Ariel sent me pictures of some of the goodies
that she made, and I noted that they look delicious,
But I also I spotted a wild crispy in the
background of one of them.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yes, yeah, who I met through the Georgia Renaissance Festival.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
How did I?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah? It was the year that I was playing a
lady in waiting Amelia Onnaire, whose main goal was to
a mass as much wealth as possible. And he came
in completely separately as deb Onnaire, and so well, obviously
we have to be related. In all season we called
each other brother of mine's, sister of mine, and so
of course Chrispy's family and comes to Thanksgiving. It's a

(05:31):
really good group of people. Someday I'll get you there, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
It hasn't happened yet, but maybe one day.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I only ended up making I made a bunch of
stuff for Thanksgiving, including homemade butter and cranberry sauce and
a punch. But the only desserts I made. I made
a nutella trifle with berries. I made a chocolate DipEd
door and shortbread, and I made key lime pieme ring cookies.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
They all look great by the way.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
They were pretty good.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, I didn't make a ding dang darn thing this year.
I just bought stuff and ate that, and and my
mom cooked a bit she made. She made a fried
oakraub squash castrole and fresh baked bread, which was crazy good.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
You see that sounds delightful. Also, someday I need to
try your mom's squash castle because I love squash and vegetables.
My husband does not so.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, I will tell you that I would. I would
argue that the squash and mom squash castrole probably constitutes
about twenty percent, and cheese is probably the other eighty.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I mean, cheese is is like every food group in
one so so good.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's I mean it is like it is decadent. It
is not. It is not by any stretch of the
imagination healthy, But I actually it does. The squash flavor
does come through. It's not like it's not like it's
just a conveyor for cheese as much as I joke about.
But the cheese does make it taste real good, as
does the toasted bread crumbs on the top.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Nice. I want to try it today. Okay, we're gonna
move on now.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
See here's the thing is we've got our super long lineup,
but sadly the actual show line up, part of our
lineup is not super long. It's a lot of other stuff.
John Boys, Horror Hutch is fit to burst this week.
So we're gonna go ahead and get started. And as
we usually do, we like to start with a question.
And I believe I've probably asked this in the past anyway,

(07:25):
but I'm going to do it again, Ariel. We're coming
up to the holiday season. We're in it, We're deep
in it already. One of the elements of the holiday
season is Charles Dickens immoral I'm sorry, immortal classic a
Christmas Carol. And there's so many versions of it. There's

(07:46):
everything from classic versions to reimaginations to postmodern tellings. So
my question to you, Ariel, and I'm going to discount
the versions that you are in. What is your favorite
version of A Christmas Carol?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, now I don't have an answer, Geez. There's a
really old and we have talked about this, but it
does change a little bit. There's a really old version
that like one of the like black and white that
I used to own and I liked watching because I
usually I lean towards one setter closer to the book,

(08:23):
you know, and mupp At Christmas Carol is not in
my list of Christmas Carols that I like, but I'm
going to name two that are not super close to
the book. This year I like Scrooged.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
An Awful Lot and then Bill Murray movie.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, and I haven't watched it in forever, but it
popped into my mind this year. An American Christmas Carol.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Oh, I remember that title, but I don't think I've
ever actually seen it.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
It starred Henry Winkler, who was a I'm reading this
because it's been so long since, like I was like
New Hampshire set. I'm from New Hampshire, so of course
New Hampshire set Christmas Carol with furniture. I remembered liking it,
and so Henry Winkler is a lone shark furniture repossessor

(09:21):
in Depression era Concord and then gets so he repossesses
furniture and then he gets visited by the ghosts. You know,
I haven't watched it in years, so it may not
hold up, but that one holds like a little place
in my memory. So that's the one that gets mentioned
this year.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Nice mine as always is Scrooge the Musical, the nineteen
seventy movie with Albert Finnie as Ebenezer Scrooge and Sir
Alec Guinness as Jacob Marley. That is my favorite version.
It will always be my favorite version unless something better
comes along, which I can't anticipate. I love the songs.

(09:58):
I don't think they're the strongest songs in musical history
or anything, but I like life and thank You very
Much are two of my favorite songs around this time
of year. Thank You very Much as my favorite because
it's a cheerful song that's all about being thankful that
Scrooge is dead. But Scrooge does not pick up on
this particular detail. It just thinks that people are thankful

(10:18):
for him. They don't know, he doesn't realize. It's because
in the future he's died and they're glad he's dead.
And it's one of my favorite dark but cheerful songs
like that. I always like juxtapositions like that, Like I
love songs that sound cheerful, but if you pay attention
to the lyrics, it's actually kind of melancholic, So that

(10:40):
kind of falls into line with that. Anyway, if you
haven't seen Scrooge the nineteen seventy one, it's good. It
is weird. There's like a whole segment, depending on which
version you see, there's a whole segment that takes place
in Hell with Alec Guinnis in it that is way
campier than most anything else in the movie, which really

(11:02):
kind of throws things off. But other than that, highly recommended.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
That is a fun version. That is a fun version
for sure.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
And do you like the Muppet one?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh? Muppet Okay? So I have a history with the
Muppet Christmas Carol. I have been caught on camera saying
that it is not a good version of Christmas Carol
and that I don't like it very much. I think
it's okay. I think it's okay. I don't like the songs.
I do not think it's a very strong Muppet movie

(11:36):
as far as the music goes right, Like I think
the music in the original Muppet movie is without you
can't touch it like that's the best. And I don't
think Muppet Christmas Carol. I think Muppet Treasure Island has
better music.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I agree fully.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
But I do think parts are cute. It is nice
that they actually have. You know, Charles Dickens in incorporated
into the story, so you get some of the actual
lines of the book spoken in the movie, which is cool,
like that doesn't happen very often, and I like that.

(12:16):
But I actually don't think Michael Caine does a great
job as Scrooge personally.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
It's too nice.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
He just doesn't. Yeah, I think Albert Finnie. I don't know.
Maybe Finny's performance is a little too cartoonish. Probably is,
but that's just what I associate with Scrooge.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
And that's perfectly reasonable, you know. And I have some
of my closest friends absolutely love them up at Christmas Carol.
It's their favorite, and I am so happy for them.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, I will say I did see since we're kind
of segue now to what we watched. This is the
last time we recorded. One thing I saw was Invasion
Christmas Carol over at Dad's garage, where they do a
staged version of a Christmas Carol, but they have an
improviser comes in as a character who has to be

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incorporated in the story. The improviser's job is to mess
up the story as much as they like. Everyone else's
job is to accept the fact that this Invader is
supposed to be part of the story and continue on
as if as if it's supposed to go that way.
So the night I went, the improviser who came in

(13:24):
came in as Apollo Creed from the Rocky movies, specifically
Apollo Creed from Rocky four, just before he goes in
to fight the Russian, and in his entrance they played
James Brown's Living in America and six cheerleaders came down
and did a choreographed cheerleader dance as he came down

(13:47):
the aisle and joined the stage, and seeing the actor
who played Scrooge realize what was happening was one of
the best moments I have.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yet to see Invasion Christmas Carol.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's depending on when you go. It can be a
lot of fun. A lot depends upon who is picked
to be the improviser and what character they choose. Like that,
A lot hinges on that, but also like I think,
the year and the cast for the rest of the
play obviously that matters a lot too. This year is good.

(14:26):
It's not my favorite lineup that I've ever seen, but
then also I should be fair. We went early, early,
early in the run, like they had just finished, you know,
doing the rehearsal process. So really it was almost like
a preview night. So a lot of the stuff that
struck me as clunky was because they were still tightening

(14:47):
things up. And I'm almost certain that in one scene
somebody failed to change into the correct costume because there
was a moment where Scrooge and the ghosts of Christmas
Past we're left hanging a really long time waiting for
the past scene to unfold, like nobody was coming out,

(15:11):
and so they were vamping for probably about forty seconds,
which is I don't know if you've ever been up
on stage and had to vamp when something went wrong.
Forty seconds is an eternity.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, yeah, it sure is. That's terrifying.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah. Thankfully they're all improvisers. So but there was a
point where Scrooge literally said, well, so this is painful.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah. I was going to say, like even is an
improviser though, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
When you're expecting something to happen and it's not happening,
and you know, you can't really move forward without it happening.
But anyway, that's that's enough about that. Let's talk about.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
It's even worse when you then realize that you're the rea.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
I mean, I know this wasn't the case.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
When you then realize that you're the reason it's not
moving forward.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah. The only thing, the only thing that comes to
my mind that I've had happened like that was in
high school. I was in a production of Bye Bye Bertie,
and I had a line that was a cue for
another character to come running onto the stage. There was
an exchange of two more lines, which would then cue
the musicians to start my song, and the other character

(16:23):
would run off again. So I give the cue, the
character does not run on stage. I don't have anything
else to say. I can't say the next line, it
would make no sense, so I can't prompt the musicians
to start playing the song. So we're literally in a
holding point, and it only I'm sure it was only
like three or four or five seconds something like that,

(16:44):
but again it felt like forever.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah. Yeah, I did that in Once Upon a Mattress
when the queen was giving me sleepy time potion and
making sure I was sleepy. I forgot one tiny line.
I'm like, why aren't we moving forward? And then they
picked up. But then I realized after the it was
me and I'm still mortified to this day, and it's
been years.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Well I'm pretty sure, like, because did you only get
to play winter Fred the one time? All right, I
saw that performance. I have no memory of that happening,
so at least to the audience, it was not it
was not obvious.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I'm still mortified, but I understand. But I wanted you
to know. Like, and I had seen the show before, like,
not that particular production, but I had seen Once Upon
a Mattress before, and it did not strike me that
anyone had dropped a line. So, well, let's talk about
the stuff we have seen. I assume you're caught up
on Pluribus.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well, yes, I haven't watched this week's episode.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Well, it hasn't come out yet, it doesn't come out,
I mean, fine.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
It come Well, it dropped last night at nine what
I think Apple sometimes just releases their shows a day
early at nine pm.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Really, I did not even notice. I figured that it
was nine pm Friday nights. Maybe I'm just mistaken about
when it comes out.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
No, it's supposed to come out Friday. But I noticed
last night when I was looking up something else on
Amazon Prime.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
So well, then I'm also not caught up. I've seen
that we're supposed to be. Yes, Yes, I'm still enjoying it.
The end of the last episode had a cliffhanger kind
of ending, and I'm extremely curious to find out what
the heck is happening, and I'm I haven't seen anything.

(18:30):
I don't know anything about it, but I have a
sneaking suspicion that there's going to be a slow burned
beginning to the next episode, and it's gonna Vince Skelligan's
going to take a sweet time before telling us what
the heck she saw.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
He does like doing that sometimes, however, I will say,
ending it on a cliffhanger, I do feel like the
momentum of the show is picking up, because I had
some friends who are like, well, there's there's not enough
plot movement, or it's moving a little too slow for them.
I feel like this past week there was a lot
of realizations that happened, and they happened in pretty quick successions.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, I honestly I like the slow burn but you
know that. I mean I feel the same way about movies,
right I like a nice, slow, methodical build because I
feel that if you go too fast you can't really
sustain it.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. And then also my husband
said something really great, which is like, if you're looking
at this to be a puzzle walk show, I can
understand how it might be a little slow for you.
But if you're just enjoying the journey.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's interesting because the main character
isn't particularly likable. I think, like, I mean, that's the point.
She's not. She's not a very likable person, and she's
extremely flawed, but you know, you can sort of understand her,
and I'm sure we'll learn more about her as the
show continues, assuming it does get to continue. But yeah,

(19:52):
she's not like the fact that I'm still really interested
in seeing what happens, but I don't particularly like the
protagonist that says a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, she's the most miserable person in the world.
She plays it well. But yeah, Ria Seahorns so talented.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
So exactly, So what else have you seen?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I have finished all of Taskmaster UK, exception of the
children's show, so I've seen all of the New Year's
I've seen all of the Champions of Champions, which are brilliant.
I've watched every season. So next is the children's show,
and then New Zealand because our friend Chrispy said that
New Zealand is a great series to follow up with.

(20:35):
He said, if UK is dry humor in Australia is
wet humored, then New Zealand is moist.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I've seen I've seen some clips of the New Zealand
one and they've got some very funny people on.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, yeah, so that'll probably be next there. I have
seen only two episodes of Mighty nine, so my watch
part was supposed to be watching two at a time,
but there are forty five to fifty minute episodes. And
then when you add in because I don't pay I
have Amazon Prime Television and movies because I have Amazon Prime.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Right, but you're not paying extra to get the ad
free version.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yes, and I feel like the ads have been getting
more and more frequent. I had four or five ad
breaks watching episode two last night. And I don't mind
ads because if you if you want to pay less
for your subscription, for your subscription to a streaming service,

(21:36):
the ads are what supports your shows. If you want
your shows to be made, they have to have income somehow, right, right,
Technically there's not getting into like how much executives are
paid or whatever, you know, just at a very basic level.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, money has to come in in order for things
to be made.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, so if you don't want to pay for your subscription,
ads are the way to do it, right. But it
was a lot and a couple of them, more like
four minute ad breaks. And I'm using, but it was
close to like netlike old school television. I hate to
say old school, but where you'd watch a TV show
and you'd get an ad break every ten minutes or
every five minutes. And it felt a lot. It felt

(22:16):
like there wasn't enough growth in each scene between the
commercial breaks and then some of them because we're just
basically Amazon got rid of their watch party unless everybody
who's watching buys the ad free version. So we all
just line up, we count down, and we all start
our episodes because we're watching from different locations, and so
some of my friends watch on their computer and they

(22:36):
have ad blockers, so they get through the episode this
week like a good seven minutes before the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah. Well, and I would imagine that, you know, because
I'm sure the ads are dynamically placed that even if
you started exactly the same time and you both have ads.
It doesn't mean that the ad break is going to
be exactly the same link for each person.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, yeah, so I watched that. But TLDR we were
supposed to be on like episode four by now, yeah,
and we're on episode two, so I am behind in
mighty nine. I am enjoying it. It is much more adult,
yeah than Vox Macna, just because of the antics that

(23:18):
one of the characters gets up to and where she starts.
But I'm enjoying it. It is interesting because we discussed
it last night, and because they're starting at kind of
like a session zero level, and they're also putting in
some information about the politics and the main crux of
the story early. It's hard to care about the politics

(23:38):
and the main crux because you aren't discovering it with
the characters.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Right well, yeah, it's it's tricky too, because like if
it's if they are characters who have no like like
a history in the world that you're setting it in,
then they already know all the things, right Like, they're
not discovering it. It's to them it's normal. But you
still have to educate the audience about the world and

(24:03):
how it works and you know, if there are political rivalries,
who the different parties are and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, but like, so the villain has already been introduced.
They were introduced in episode one. The Bright Queen has
already been introduced, and so we're getting all of that
which didn't come in until like many episodes in in
the actual play. Yeah, but again, because you don't have
the character's investment in that story, it's harder to be
invested yourself. Also, at the end of episode two, Ford

(24:34):
and Jester have found each other and not in Caleb
have found each other because they both have history coming
into the game. But that's it. Like, we still haven't
developed the party yet, so it's a little slow. I'm
enjoying it. I know I will love it, but it's
just getting there. I also watched all of the first
chapter of the last season of Stranger Things, and that

(24:56):
was fun. It did amp up and maybe it's just
been long time since I watched Stranger Things. I felt
like it was a little bit more tense intense than
previous seasons. But I did enjoy it. I knew I would,
so Yeah, so that's good. There's some fun stuff in there.
I'm looking forward to the next chapter. And then I
watched the first episode of VIP Very Important People on

(25:17):
Dropout for this season, and that was that was something.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
I gotta say, Like I saw a trailer for season
three and the makeup and costume department have like, seriously,
they were already doing amazing work, but they have upped
their game.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah they have this first This first episode is I'm
guessing they show them in the trailer in order because
the first episode is with Rakus Schunkar as a hot
dog nice the mother hot dog. So it was a lot.
They usually start with like their weaker episodes and then
build to the stronger episodes throughout the season. I almost

(25:58):
said series, this is not They're not the UK Aeriel.
So Raka did great. She was very funny, but I
could tell that it like the through line wasn't as
strong as with some of the other improvisers.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
So gotcha is that it?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
That's it?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Okay? Well for me plarvis obviously, Harley Quinn I finally
finished season five, which which may or may not be
the final season for Harley Quinn. Last I heard they
were still kind of negotiating a season six, and as
we will get into in this episode. A lot of
that stuff is kind of kind of up in the

(26:34):
air at the moment. No big reason Warner Brothers Discovery
getting bought anyway. I also went to the theater the
Teatra and saw Wake Up dead Man, the Knives Out sequel,
which I thought was very entertaining. I felt like ben
Wa Blanc wasn't in an enough Oh really wow? Yeah, No,

(27:00):
I feel like it's almost an hour in before he
really is a factor at all. Like there's so much
set up. It's good, don't get me wrong, and the
characters are interesting and everything, but also so my partner
said that she felt the protagonist was given a ton

(27:22):
to work with the protagonists not being ben Wa block
but like kind of like the Maid or I'm sorry,
the Caretaker in the first Knives Out movie, or the
spoiler alert sister in a Glass Onion, but the in

(27:43):
Wake Up dead Man, it's a priest, a young priest
who's been assigned this small to be an assistant to
a priest in a very small parish and in upstate
New York. So a lot of time is spent on
that priest and his relationships with the people in the
town and more particularly with the main priest of the parish,

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played by Josh Brolin.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
And.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I don't know. I agree with her that a lot
of time was dedicated to him and not as much
time to anybody else, And that's kind of an issue
because you don't really get to know a lot of
the people. But everyone does a great job anyway, like
Andrew Scott does a great job and Glenn Close is fantastic,
Like everyone does a really good job with their role.

(28:35):
It just felt like the script was what was not
serving everyone equally well but still really well done, still
a fun mystery. Still, you know, I don't think it's
quite as quite as as compelling as some of the
other as Knives Out was, but I still really enjoyed it.

(28:58):
I am continue doing the Book of to Darry, even
though I think it's getting dumber, and maybe I am too. Yeah, No,
it's They've introduced a setting called the black Spot that
is actually referenced in a few Stephen King books, but
specifically in it, and I believe maybe in The Shining

(29:20):
as well. But Dick Hallerin is the common thread between
those two. Dick is the character who gives the Shining
the name. The Shining says that's why his grandmother called it. Anyway,
In Stephen King lore, the black spot is a place
that black servicemen establish so that they have a place

(29:41):
they can drink that's not in the town of Derry,
because people in Derry can be real racist jerks, so
they kind of have their own little juke joints set up. Well,
this juke joint eventually becomes targeted by white supremacists in
Darry and burned down, And the imp in cation I
always had was that there's a decent amount of time

(30:04):
between when it's established and when it's burnt down, and
welcome to Dary. It looks like it's targeted the night
that it opens, so it has not been in operation
very long. I guess I'll find out for sure this
week because that's when the follow up episode happens. And
then I also watched the first season and a half

(30:28):
of Slow Horses. It's the Gary Oldman show. Yeah, he
plays a spy. I really like it a lot.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I just every person is allowed to age however they want,
and that's fine, But it is the show that I
realized I no longer have a purely esthetic crush.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
On Gary Olman. I mean, he does play a stringy haired, flatulent,
rude as heck m I five agent, and I love him.
I love so much.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I would still absolutely adore to just like sit down
with him for a week and take an intensive on
character acting because he's still just I feel like, so
one one of like a handful of actors who just
is able to absolutely completely disappear into a character.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah. Yeah, and his characters can be so different too,
Like you look at him and Leon the Professional and
he's so unhinged, you know. Or there's so many different
great movies he's been in.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
But anyway, I've never seen Leon the Professional.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Oh really wow. Okay, well I don't recommend it. I
don't it's not for you, Ariel, Okay, it's very upsetting,
but his performance is like he there's no scenery that
goes unchewed. And then I also watched the first snow
at Fraggle Rock, oh because it was already out. And

(31:59):
we'll be talking about that trailer later, but we can.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Take the trailer off if it's already out.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Oh well, I mean, I'll say this, it's worth watching.
It's very cute. I will also say that I have
not watched Fraggle Rock since the original run of Fraggle
Rock back in the eighties. So there were characters. I
was like, oh, I don't know who any of these
characters are, and that was kind of interesting. But they're
all like supporting characters. Nothing like nothing that made me

(32:26):
left me scratching my head. But I will say it
feels it feels like one of the most Jim Henson's
style things I've seen in since probably the Electric Mayhem Show.
It feels like that nice.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Oh I saw that Center for Puppetry Arts here in
Atlanta is getting the Charlie Chaplin Kermit statue.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, like the twelve foot tall kermit statue that was
in front of Jim Henson Studios in California because the
studios is really cool. The studios are relocating, so that
statue is going to go to the center. I saw.
I read that too. I did not. I didn't have
anyone from the inside telling me, but I found out
the way the way you did. I saw the headline.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
I think it's pretty cool. Any you watched a lot
of really cool things and more cool things than I did,
And now I will actually have to watch slow Horses
because you're the second person who's telling me it's good
and I should watch it?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Is it? I think I told you already that the
first season commits the plot. It's not a sin, but
it does something that I get, really, I really get
tired of in the Mission Impossible movies, which is the
threat is always coming from inside, Like it's never an
external threat, it's always an internal threat. Like and I'm like,

(33:44):
you built the house that's trying to kill you. You
created the problem that you have to solve. I'm like,
can we please see something where you're reacting to an
external problem? And when I say you, I don't mean
necessarily the characters, but either the the organization they belong to,
or like a sister organization, like another intelligence organization that's

(34:06):
also under the same government. I just get tired of
those stories. So the first season, I mean big spoiler there,
I guess, but the season of Slow Horses kind of
deals with that. It's revealed very early on that that's
what's going on, but it's still really frustrating.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
And it's also not like we're several seasons in.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Now, so yeah, oh yeah, it's I think they've done
like five or six and I've only started the second one.
I have like three episodes into the second one.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
I thought it was two or three, but so that's wow.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Okay, all right, well let's move on to thirty seconds
or last. Now that we're thirty five minutes into the recording,
am I first? I can't remember?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
You are first?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
You're okay?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Talk about the thing that I swear we're going to
want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, well, we'll probably have to circle back on this,
but here we go. After a chaotic bidding war, Netflix
has emerged as the potential future custodian of Warner Brothers
Discovery in deal said to be valued at nearly eighty
three billion buckaroos. Netflix beat out Paramount and others, though
the deal must first pass regulatory approval. Meanwhile, everyone from

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DC super fans to movie theater owners are wondering how
this merger will affect the future where we see even
more of a turn towards streaming.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, we're gonna have to stort back on this, okay.
Not that I have in stur information, I just have feels.
Disney's Utopia two came out this past week, I think,
and it has earned five hundred and fifty six point
four million dollars in its opening weekend alone, this is
the biggest debut ever for an animated movie and the

(35:44):
fourth biggest opening of all time of any movie. So
that is huge and awesome.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Wow. As we record this episode, Wicked for Good has
earned more than four hundred million bucks worldwide, and when
numbers like that, it should come as no surprise that
Universal desperately wants to expand this into a broader franchise,
with discussions around film and TV possibilities. I got a
great idea, what if we made a movie from the
perspective of the young girl from Earth who is pulled

(36:11):
into Oz.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Ooh ooh, or when she goes back to Oz later
I mean countesses like things with wheels for feet.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
And we and we electro shock the heck out of her.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I love Return to Oz as a creepy, creepy movie.
I would definitely watch a remake of it, although the
original is so perfect. Okay, sorry, happy feels Okay. Sony
is making a new I guess they're going to make
some movies off of a book series called Hierarchy, which

(36:45):
I had never heard of before, but apparently it's a political,
magical Roman Empire style story. It actually sounds like it
might be fun. I just don't know thing about it.
But if you like the Hierarchy series by Oh Gosh,

(37:05):
what is his Name? By James Islington, do I say
that right? Then? Yeah, you might be gained some films sunny.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
As far as I know, you said it correctly well
in our first Scarlett Johanson story. Today, the actress is
signed on to star in Mike Flanagan's Exorcist film. The
Exorcist is a movie with a franchise that's abound as
confusing as DC at this point. Flannagan's film will not
follow the garbage pile that was The Exorcist Believer, but

(37:34):
instead will be an all news story set in the
quote unquote universe of the original Exorcist movie.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Interesting. She's also in final talks to join The Batman
Part two. I don't know as who. The Batman is
one of those movies that I think has a great
cast and horrible, horrible pacing, So like, this isn't strong
enough to support a slower than Blade Runner level pacing.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
For the record, I like the first Batman movie, The
Batman Movie when I watched it, and I haven't rewatched it,
but I will say that as time went on, I
liked it less. That doesn't mean maybe I need to
rewatch it and see if it really holds up or not.
I did really. Ariel and I differ on this, but
I really like that version of the Riddler, all right.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I just like I like the classic cheesy version.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
That's all. Yes, I know, I know it's it just
doesn't fit well. So you're not a Quentin Tarantino person.
Then you heard about that this week, right, it's not
on the it's not on our lineup. But Quentin Tarantino
absolutely dragged Paul Dano through the mud in an interview,
called him the weakest actor in sag Oh wow. Yeah,

(38:52):
not not super cool there, mister Tarantino. Maybe maybe you
need to look at some foot pictures and calm yourself
down a bit.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
But he's also said some some things that have not
aged well, but I won't get into that here.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah. I don't obviously that the
campy version of the Riddler would not have fit in
the tone of the Batman movie. But you could have
just gone with a different villain in that case, like
it could have been Victor zazz you know, something like that. Anyway,
the video game series Far Cry is ready to make
a stealthy leap to television. Noel Holly and Rob Mack

(39:30):
formerly Rob Mcalenny will Helm and Mac is also going
to star in the project. Barcry typically follows a protagonist
who dumped in a hostile environment that is under the
control of a powerful and frequently disturbed antagonist. The series
is going to be anthology style, with new casts and
settings for each season.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
I didn't know that Rob mcalinny was going by Rob Macnow,
what is the world?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
He legally changed his name this past summer.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
How did I miss that? Oh?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
My goodness, to be fair, I learned that today too.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Also, I did not read that article prior to this,
and I had to while you were talking quickly send
it over to my husband, who enjoys the far Cry
games or has enjoyed some amount of the far Cry games. Okay,
Tom Rader is getting a live action series as well.
We know that it's already starring Sophie Turner as Laura Croft.
Now we know that Martin Bob Semple is joining the cast.

(40:30):
I'm not super familiar with his work. Apparently he's in
the CW's all American Homecoming, but.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Cool your I love your insight and analysis all right. Well,
now that it lost out on the bid to acquire
a Warner Brothers Discovery, Paramount has some other big plans
in the near future. The company's twenty twenty eight slate
has a live action teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film and
a Sonic The Hedgehog sequel on it. The TMNT film

(41:02):
won't follow the Michael Bay produced live action films of
a few years ago, nor will it go super dark
and gritty, So if you were hoping for a really
gritty teenage mutant Ninja Turtles movie, it ain't happen that.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
The og live action Ninja Turtle movies, I think we
said this in our last episode really hold up. They're
super fun and super well done. But honestly, I rewatched
the Michael Bay one Michael Bay movies halfway and my
husband put them on in the background for like mindless watching.
Even though I think the plot is a little weak,
I feel like they really got the personalities of the

(41:39):
Turtles right in those movies, and so I still had
fun with it.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
I only watched the first one, and I remember thinking
it was surprisingly okay. Because I'm not a Michael Bay fan.
I don't like Michael Bay movies typically.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Yeah, I mean it's not it's not the end all,
be all fantastic, but it was a fun movie. Yeah,
if you could get past some of the weird human
hybrid turtle faces. And I'm sorry, I don't have more
insight into Tone Rader. It's just not a pot property, guys.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
No, no, no, I assigned that story to you. I'm
just giving you the business.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Like I've watched the video game, the newer video game
one time, halfway through. That's that's the extent of my
tomb Raider experience. I've never seen the old movies. I've
never played the games. Fair enough, Sophie Turner, I think
will be an interesting casting choice. It's not a look
that I typically associate with tomb Raider, but I like

(42:34):
breaking outside of the norms and the stereotypes. So total yeah, Okay.
Noah Sentino is joining the Gundam movie with Sydney Sweeney
that is being made by the creator of Sweet Tooth.
So when they say by Jim mikel but when they

(42:55):
say like Sweet Tooth, I know that Robert Downey Junior
and his wife were producers on that, So that's what
my brain very first went see.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
My brain first went to this idea of the two
of them just meticulously painting a figurine for two hours.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
I wouldn't put it past them. Noah Centini Sentinio is
also going to be in the new Street Fighter movie,
but I don't remember us who because I forgot to
write that down.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Well, Activity is about to get all paranormal up in here,
because there's yet another Paranhole Activity movie at development, this
time with producer James Wan, who's known in horror circles
as the guy behind the Insidious and Conjuring movie franchises.
He's going to be a joint production between Paramount and
the newly merged Blumhouse Atomic Monster. This will be the

(43:41):
eighth film in the Paranormal Activity franchisees Wooko.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
From James Wand to James Camerwan now to James cam
He came out to say that he thinks that AI
actors are horrifying and that generative AI is not great
for creatives. This came on the tail of him praising
motion capture performances in his movies. I do think that

(44:09):
there was a very vast difference between MOCAP and then
having the artists put a CGI character over that. That
is a difficult thing to do all around to pull
off and AI. I've been kind of shut in freuda
enjoying the videos of AI actors where they are getting

(44:30):
directed in an audition by a casting director or director
and they cannot take the direction. There's just because AI
is an aggregate of existing information, so none of their
performances are going to be original, and none of their
performances are going to have the spontaneity of a real actor.

(44:51):
I am glad that James Cameron is falling into that boat,
along with several other directors. It makes me happy and
gives me hope for the world.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah. In twenty twenty four, Rolling Stone published an article
titled Dance with the Devil, which detailed Sammy Davis Junior's
relationship with and I'm not making this up the Church
of Satan. It's actually a really good article. Now that
story is being adapted into a horror movie, which is
weird considering that the articles not a horror article, but

(45:21):
Leslie Odom Junior a gay Aaron Burr in the original
Broadway cast, Pamilton is adapting the article and will star
in the picture.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
And then lastly for me but not for Jonathan. Netflix
has released their yule logs for this year, and this
year it is K Pop, Demon Hunters, Stranger Things, and Wednesday.
So just creepy eulogs if you don't. If you don't
like regular yule logs for your holiday present opening, that's

(45:55):
when I watch a yulog. I put it on in
the background when I open presents. I don't know if
that's when everybody else does zul logs. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I like the idea of a dirty tiger hanging out
while presents are getting open.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
That's not what you're getting. You're getting like this weird
like purple Stonehengi thing.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
But I bet Derby Tiger shows up at some point.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Last year was Squid Game, spell Bound in Bridgerton, and
I'm sad that I missed the Bridgerton one because I
thought that would be real, lovely.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Well in news that broke shortly before we were set
to record. Sony has hired Chris Bremner to write a
screenplay for a new Men in Black film. No word
yet on a director or casting, which is probably a
good thing because they just hired the writer for the
ding dang darn thing. So let's get some characters in
there before we start shoving actors into the project, shall we.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Also, I want to go back to get some more
industry news real quick. Sag Aftra and Innimacy Coordinators have
made like an agreement, so now Intimacy coordinators under sag
Aftra officially.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Well, and then you also mentioned that you have thoughts
about Netflix, Quarner Brothers Discovery.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, so, like I have friends talking about this last
night during the group watch because they're like, well, Netflix
will cancel shows the same week that they release them,
which is not quite true, right, Like they're they're looking
for two metrics usually, which is how many people initially
watch it, and then how many people finish episodes and
finish the series, and how quickly they do so. But

(47:23):
they do have a reputation for canceling things very quickly.
I would say more quickly than HBO Max or Warner
Brothers Media or any of that.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
H I don't know. Zaslov has got he's got a
butcher's arm on that chopping block he.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Does, but it's usually before people get to watch it.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Now, that's true. Usually it's usually it's when the product
product hasn't even been totally finished yet, and then it
gets asked for tax purposes.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
But I do hope that they keep some of the
Netflix has such a big catalog. It's the biggest problem
I have is it's hard to find things, sure, and
then I get like and their their interface changes all
the time, so it's hard for me to find the
things I want to find so I can remember to
watch them, which is why they don't at least get

(48:17):
my tick as somebody who watches because I can't find
it and then it's not top out of side, out
of mind. I hope that at least for like the
DC stuff, they keep movie releases and not the small
releases like with Frankenstein and the not Chronicles of Narni
and stuff like that, but like actual big releases, because
I really enjoy those, and I've really, I really enjoyed
seeing both Fantastic Four and Superman. It brought me back

(48:39):
some nostalgia of going to the theater with a bunch
of people who enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah, there's an understandable amount of concern in the movie
theater world that Netflix taking over Warner Brothers discovery means
that we'll see even more films going direct to streaming
or very shortly going to streaming after maybe an extremely
limited release. Like the big fear is that a lot

(49:04):
of films will just get a limited release in markets
like New York and Los Angeles and the rest of
the country, let alone the world will have no opportunity
to watch the stuff on the big screen, and then
you just have to wait for it to come out
on the small screen. And while I totally understand the
convenience factor of being able to watch stuff at home,

(49:27):
and I don't like I watch a lot of stuff
that way, like I will forego going to the theater
in many cases. I almost did it for Wake Up
dead Man, but I was convinced to go, and I'm
glad I did. I don't think that Wake Up dead
Man is the type of movie where you have to
see it on the big screen, but I enjoyed the experience.

(49:48):
I'm hopeful that Netflix, assuming that this deal actually goes through,
because it does have to go through the regulation, the
regulatory process, But assuming this deal goes through, I do
hope Netflix will continue to release movies theatrically in a
broad release uh, and I hope that it's not so
disruptive for a lot of the projects that are going

(50:10):
on right now. Like you know, that was one of
the things about that we knew there was going to
be a deal for Warner Brothers Discovery, we just didn't
know who it was going to ultimately end up being
until today. And there are still other questions like does
this mean James Gunn is still safe heading up the
DC side right or is that going to change? Like,

(50:32):
we don't know. You would hope that Netflix would say, no,
this is working, let's continue doing the thing that works,
but you just don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
I hope that they keep them there and not I
mean part of it, I was going to say, not
just we, but part of it is selfishly, James Gunn
is committed to creating content in Georgia, which is great
for me because sag Aftra has in the late in
the most recent negotiations done away with regional local actors,
which means that if you're not within a certain mileage

(51:04):
of the city that they're filming in, you don't count
as a local actor unless you have a residence in
that city. So like if I had a residence in California,
I could claim to be a local California actor as well,
but because I don't if they're only looking for local actors,
I can't do it. But it used to be that
I could be like I am within five hundred miles
of North Carolina, so I am a regional local actor

(51:25):
because I can still get there in a reasonable amount
of time from my home. That's no longer the case.
So when I hear people like James Gunn saying this
is a great place to make television and movies and
I'm committed to doing stuff here that makes me happy.
Netflix also films a lot of stuff in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
So like, yeah, Stranger Things is a great example.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yeah, is a wonderful example. So so from that aspect,
I'm hopeful. I just I hope they can figure out
a good balance, because I know streaming overall is still
trying to figure out a good and profitable balance.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, I'm a hopeful. Like I will say this, as
uncertain as everything is, the one thing I am certain
of is that there's a better chance for things to
be as good or better than they are now without
Zaslov calling all the shots.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
I don't know Zaslov so I can't say, but I
trust your experience.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
I'm saying this not as not as someone who actually
directly worked for well, directly it's too strong a word.
Way down the chain. I worked for Zaslov. I'm not
saying that as someone who worked under a company that
Zaslov was leading, but rather just the decisions that have
been made over the past like four years, you know,
like seeing what has happened with the merger of Warner

(52:43):
Brothers in Discovery, seeing entire projects like you know, Batgirl
getting axed before there's any chance for people to see them. Like,
that's the kind of thing that I'm hoping h is
laid to rest once the deal goes through, assuming it does.

(53:04):
I say that without even knowing exactly what David Zaslov's
role would be. I don't know if he would stay
with the company and lead the division or not. I
did not see that in the article. It may have
been buried in there somewhere, but I was I was
reading for the salient points and may have missed it.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah, but it'll be it'll be interesting, Yeah, it will be.
Entertainment is entertainment is always an evolving market.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
So that's just and like it's weird because when I
was a kid, there weren't that many big mergers in studios.
So for a long time, I just thought that the
studios were kind of these monoliths that all came into
being around the same time and like, you know, the
twenties through the forties, and that they had remained unchained, unchanged.

(53:55):
But if you look into the history of any of them,
they are the most confusing stories because of governance and
change of ownership and all this stuff, Like companies that
used to be called one thing get turned into something else,
and then like a company will change but keep its name,
but it'll be effectively an all new company. Like it's

(54:15):
just weird stuff. So so as weird as it is
right now, I can I can say with all honesty
it's kind of always been that way in the world
of entertainment.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Yeah, yeah, which can be a good and a bad thing.
Let's let's go into like the stuff that is coming
out that we can maybe look forward to, because stuff
that doesn't fit is our first section. So I don't
know how much you're looking forward to.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
The Oh no, you're you're wrong, Ariel. I think I
think we renamed it into calling it things that we
might watch even though they're not actually genre, so we
don't actually put them in the real lineup. So this
is where they go. Now that's the section.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I thought we changed it to. These are these are
somebody's geek geekyom for everybody, But this is shoot. I
was going to try to match you for your wittness,
but I didn't write it down, So this might be
geeky for some zims, but not for everyone's.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Well. First up, we have a film adaptation of a
play from the nineteen sixties. The play is called Dutchman.
The film is called The Dutchman.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I didn't know this was a play.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Oh yeah. This was a play written by Amiri Baraka
who had just gone I think through a divorce and
Amir is a person of color and had written this
story about a black man getting on a subway who
is then approached by a white woman who is using

(55:45):
various forms of intimidation and manipulation humiliation to mess with him.
And as I understand that the entire play just takes
place aboard the subway train fact one in Act two
and spoiler alert, it has a very dramatic and tragic

(56:06):
end for the protagonist, and then the cycle begins anew
where she approaches another young black man. But it's an
allegory for black white relations and for politics in the
nineteen sixties in particular. So the movie is taking a
lot of those elements but expanding beyond. Like it's not

(56:27):
it starts maybe on the subway, but it expands way
beyond that and involves a lot more other characters.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Yeah. It it honestly looks like a really good psychological thriller,
much better than what I originally thought it was about,
which was a ghost ship.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
So fair enough because like that title, right, the Dutchman,
but in the original Dutchman was referenced because of Slaver ships.
So that's why it has like this element with the
black white relations and everything. Kate Mara is playing the
white woman in this, and she looks like she's wickedness incarnate. Yeah, yeah,

(57:06):
Like you don't want to mess with this woman. She
is going to turn your life upside down and inside
out and you won't like where it is when she's done.
That's the kind of character she's playing. Like, like I
was like, wow, I didn't know Kate Maara had it
in her to be Liss Villainous.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah, it also stars I think Elvis Hodge plays the
main character, and then Zazzi beats Is in it as well,
who I absolutely love.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yeah, this comes out January tecond Yeah, so this looks
like like it's it looks like it's going to be heavy. Initially,
the way the trailer starts, it almost feels like it's
going to be a genre film because it feels like
it might have a little sort of matrixy science fiction
element to it. But it's all because it's allegorical, not
you know, it's dream like and not meant to be

(57:53):
taken as a literal, you know, unfolding of events.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Yeah. Yeah, Next we have Leon the Professional.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Too, well kind of Yeah, Shelter I wrote it is
a very typical Jason Stathan movie of him stathaming all
over the place.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
I mean that is also accurate. He does stath them
over a lot of things in this movie, but he it.
So I had said earlier, I've never watched Leon the Professional,
but I know it's about a professional kind of hit
man kind of person and a kid, and this has that.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
So yeah, slightly slightly different, but you know, because like
in Leon the Professional, Leon is a very simple person
who kind of lacks guile. He's extremely good at unaliving people,
if you want to put it that way, killing people.
He's a very great professional killer, but he's he's not
very sophisticated. He's not a very sophisticated person or a thinker.

(58:57):
And then he runs into a very young Natalie Portman
and is protecting her. Things get weird in that movie.
It's also a Luke Bassan movie, So, depending on your
opinions of Luke Bassan, take it all with a grain
of salt, but shelter. It's Statham is playing a former
assassin who's kind of living out a life of solitude,

(59:20):
and this girl slash young woman, depending on how you
want to think of her. She's really young, so I'd
say girl is bringing him supplies and then she accidentally,
as a result of this, gets pulled into chaos because,
as we all know, when an assassin retires, the thing

(59:42):
that follows next is whatever organization employed the assassin beforehand
has to make the decision of taking out that assassin
now because they know too much or whatever. So the
problem is that they forgot Oh that's Jason Stathum. If
we try and do that to Jay and Stath. We
all get deaded real fast. But they forgot so they

(01:00:05):
tried to Jason Statham, so he then deads a whole
bunch of other people while trying to keep the young
girl safe. Yeah, that's my summary of the movie. Also
Bill Naise in it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
I do love Bill Naii. I am more interested in
watching The Dutchmen. It might be a little too schmecksy
for me, but I am interested in the story of
the Dutchman, more interested now that it's a play.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, Shelter definitely feels way more like a run of
the mill Jason Statham action movie. Like there's been so
many of those recently too, right, like The bee Keeper
and I forget what the other one was, where he
like he's like a landscaper or whatever, working man maybe
that's what's called. And now Shelter. They all have a

(01:00:50):
very similar feel to them. This comes out January thirtieth.
I almost feel like you could take all those those
Statham centered action films, shuffle them up, put them in
and not you know, skip the title screen, and it
would take you a while to figure out which one
you were watching.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Yeah, to give you an idea, of about how old
the young girl is in the play. She is playing
Margaret Dashwood in the upcoming twenty twenty sixth Sense and
Sensibility movie Teenager.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Yeah, all right, so shelters out January thirtieth. Moving on
to the next one, which is Mother Mary.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
This is a I was kind of surprised you didn't
put this into the horror Hutch.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I don't know that this is. I think it's more
of a psycho sexual thriller.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
The Yeah, maybe, but it also has to do with
it feels like it has to do with like possession, So.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I think that's well, maybe it's hard to say. I
think that those are like dreamlike elements. Yeah, I mean
there is, Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
No, no, no, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I was just gonna say, like, I don't know if
I mean, maybe that's literally happening in the movie, like
the whole like Ouiji board stuff and all that kind
of thing. But I get the sense that that's not
a major part of the story. But I could be wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Yeah, what I view the story as is that there
Anne Hathaway is a singer who is estranged from her
friend who is a costume designer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Yeah, fashion designer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Fashion designer, but then needs an outfit for a concert
or a new song or something like that, and they're
at odds. And then there's like Ouigi possession stuff in
the trailer and I can't tell if it's real or not. So, yeah,
that's that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Yeah, I think it's more about the fact that Mother
Mary is the character Ann Hathaway's playing, and Sam, which
is the character Mikela Cole is playing. She's the fashion designer.
I think it's about how Mother Mary and Sam had
this massive falling out and the manipulation that goes on

(01:03:05):
between the two when Sam realized that Mother Mary needs
her and so Sam's the one who got left right,
So Sam is the one who feels wronged and hurt.
So now she's going to inflict control and pain on
Mother Mary because she feels that Mother Mary deserves that
for the betrayal that Sam feels right Like that that's

(01:03:27):
what I get from this, And then the Ouiji stuff
I felt was almost a distraction, Like I don't maybe
it is does take more precedence in the actual film.
It could, and maybe there's way more to this than
I thought, But I felt like this was more of
a like you could have cut that stuff and it
wouldn't have made it any difference.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about watching this one.
I think I'll have to wait for the reviews.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Yeah, I honestly like, I think that the actors are
acting their butts off, but it's come across kind of
this is my opinion. In my opinion that I am
not an actor. But in my opinion, it feels like
there being a little melodramatic.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Yeah, it might it might be. It might be the
I it's like a pop pop thriller, so that might
just be the style.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Could be. Yeah, this doesn't really look like it's my
thing either. I would put this up with like not
as stylized maybe or stylized in a different way. But
I think of like Last Night and Soho, which I
was intrigued by but never sat down to watch, as
the Eggor Wright movie with my girlfriend Ania Taylor Joys

(01:04:44):
in it. She doesn't know she's my girlfriend, Please don't
tell her. We also got a trailer for a TV
series that is based off a nineteen eighty nine comedy
with Tom Hanks in it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I was wondering that it was like the Bird The Urbs.
That sounds familiar. It's a tiny, teeny tiny trailer for
the TV show The Burbs coming out on Peacock.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Yes, you're right, Peacock.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Yeah, I've never watched The Urbs with Tom Hanks.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
So basic story is that you've got the suburb, very
normal suburb with lots of you know, quirky, not quirky,
but like people who have different little personality quirks or whatever.
And then this very strange family moves in and they're
very private and creepy and kind of they seem a

(01:05:35):
little backwards to the rest of the suburb, and everyone
just suspects that they are murderers and like it's and
it quickly escalates into absurdity. In the movie version, it's
a dark, fairly dark comedy, dark by nineteen eighty nine
standards anyway. So this is a TV series that is

(01:05:57):
taking that same kind of premise, that has Keky Palmer
and Jack Whitehall in it, along with other folks, and
it comes out February eighth, And yeah, I thought, I thought,
maybe I will check out the first episode, except that
like the stuff that were the jokes in this trailer,
none of them landed for me, No.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
But I do like Keky Palmer, and I like Jake
white Jack Jake white Jack Whitehall and Julia Duffy who's
in it as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Oh yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't notice that
Julia Duffy's in it. I do love her, so yeah.
But like the one of the jokes is like, like
someone asks a woman a question, she says, do women
lack salad before kicking in the door? And I'm like, oh,
is that the level of joke we're gonna have in
this series? Because that might not be enough for.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Me that that's but it's the kind of character that
makes that joke. Like when I was watching fou Bar
Fortune Fimemstar first of all, very popular comic her. Her
comedy style doesn't always land with me, but it did
feel out of place in fu Bar. It's like, here's
this serious action show happened, semi serious action show happening,

(01:07:12):
and here are these slapsticky type comments being interjected. So
it might be that the rest of the show is
great and you just don't like this character as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Could be yeah, I'll give it an episode. You know,
I've got peacocks, so I'll give it an episode and decide.
We also got a teaser for the Scrubs reboot Season
ten of Scrubs, and it's really brief, but we do
get to see JD. Turk, Elliott, Doctor Cox, and Carla
in it, as well as the newbies who will be

(01:07:43):
the new resident doctors. This starts on February twenty fifth.
I don't have a whole lot to say other than
it definitely had a Scrubs feel to it, except everybody's older.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Here's the thing though, In like the little social media
teaser they released, they looked way older than they do
in this trailer. They look pretty good in this trailer.
At least Zach gra looked way older.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
That's that's what all the makeup and lighting and fancy
cameras do for you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah. Yeah, that's not what they do for me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Man. They When I had fancy cameras on me, I
just I was already big, But it made me look
like a freaking balloon like I could have. You could
have tied strings to me and dragged me down, uh,
you know, Broadway, and everyone would have thought it was Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
I'm looking forward to it. I'm sorry I liked Scrubs.
You know you've never looked like a balloon to me,
but I haven't known you your whole life.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
So, yeah, you didn't get to watch like the dailies
of Forward Thinking back when I first started.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
It, I didn't. I was a horrible friend.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
No, you were on set, you couldn't have done it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
But but I'm looking forward to it. I do like
the fact that it is the same characters, but it's
not just but they're introducing new people as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Yeah, I was a huge fan of Scrubs. I don't
think I ever watched. I definitely didn't watch season nine,
where they started introducing new characters, because that was when
they were trying to transition into a different cast. Essentially.
I didn't watch season nine, and I think I might
have dropped off before season eight, or maybe in the

(01:09:26):
beginning of season eight, But the earlier seasons were some
of my favorite TV at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Yeah, I got distracted. I'm sorry when we were talking
about it, because I was trying to look up something
about the show and instead landed on the news about
that at some point. I don't know if it's current
or not. Zach Braff and Florence Pew were dating.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Yeah, no, that was something that did happen at one point.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Anyhow, I just got very distracted by that. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
I got distracted too, because she's my other girlfriend, and
I was real upset.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Oh, you can't just claim all the girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yeah. Also, Florence Pugh doesn't know she's my girlfriend, so
no one tell her that either. Neither does Ella Pernelle,
So don't let her know either. Like none of these,
none of these incredibly talented actresses, who all have extremely
satisfying personal lives without meeting them, need to know that
they are my girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
I cannot wait for a fileout this month.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Okay, Yeah, that's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I hope, I certainly hope. Which is going to get
me through this next section, which is so many horror movies.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Yeah, I'm so sorry because no, it's okay. Like, here's
the problem is that over the last two weeks, I've
been keeping an eye on on pop culture news, and
I was trying to add stuff whenever I was seeing
it pop up. And it's kind of like the beginning
of last year. It looks like twenty twenty six is
going to be another year filled with horror movies. We
still have some coming out this year in the last month,

(01:10:53):
and then we have more coming out throughout twenty twenty six.
First thing I want to mention is I want to
give a quick talk about Quiver and Black Mandela. These
are two distribution companies like the buy or produce movies
and then find distribution for them. And over the last

(01:11:14):
five or six years, these companies like this have started
to pop up largely with a focus on getting stuff
to streaming platforms, because obviously that's changed the game before.
Like if you were stuck with the old theatrical world,
you had two options really from the nineties on. You

(01:11:35):
could either negotiate to get your film in movie theaters
or you can negotiate to get your film go direct
to video. Now we've got streaming, so it opens up
a different world and so many different competing streaming platforms.
There are a lot more opportunities there. But it also
means that we're getting a lot of junk, you know,

(01:11:56):
low budget, sometimes poorly made and poorly produced work. It's
not to say that people aren't trying on these projects.
Often it's due to lack of you know, of assets,
lack of funds, or you know that kind of thing.
Sometimes it's bad direction. Sometimes it's just bad cameras and lighting.

(01:12:19):
Sometimes it's a combination of all these things. But it's
making me think a lot of like Asylum pictures, but
even lower budget than Asylum typically was and is because
I think asylum is still a thing, but Asylum if
you're if you don't know. They were best known for
a long time of creating what they call mockbusters, where
they would make movies that were cheap knockoffs of things

(01:12:42):
that were successful in theaters. So like they Pacific Rim
comes out, they would do one called Atlantic Rim only
for like is not good. Or instead of transformers they
had trans morphers, and it was always a super cheap,

(01:13:02):
cash grab kind of thing. Now I will say Black
Mandala and Quiver, I don't think they're going for the
cash grab, but I think they are spreading a very
wide net for cheaply produced genre movies, typically and usually horror,
because horror tip that often has a big payout, Like

(01:13:24):
you can have a cheaply made horror movie and still
have it be a financial success, like Paranormal Activity. The
first one is a great example. Blair Witch Project is
another one. So I say that because some of the
movies that we're going to talk about briefly here fall
into that category, and I think we're going to see
a lot more of them because we're seeing more of

(01:13:44):
these distribution channels popping up. So first up, we got
a movie called The Confession, which is a film out
of the UK. Will Cannon is the person responsible for this.
Did you watch the Confession trailer? I know you saw
some of these, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
I like both Rats in the Wall and Pied Piper,
which you have in the note, So yeah, I looked one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I made some snarky notes in this section because here's
the weird thing about this trailer aerial. It starts off
and it feels like it's your standard supernatural almost like
demonic possession or haunting style movie. And then at some
point in the trailer they start talking about the Pied
Piper and they show an ice cream truck. So it's

(01:14:30):
an ice cream truck playing this music, and when you
hear the music, it's already too late. That's the Pied Piper,
and you will the kids will end up following him
and getting you know, snatched up or whatever. And so
it's wild because the trailer makes it look like it's
one type of horror movie, like almost like a religious
horror movie in the beginning and then goes into this

(01:14:54):
high concept folk horror kind of thing. And I read
some reviews and the reviews were saying because it was
showing in like horror movie festivals, right, the people who
saw it said essentially the same thing. They're like, yeah,
introducing the Pied Piper stuff, and the third act was wild,
and I'm like, whoa they waited until the third act
to introduce the fact that it's the Pied Piper. That's insane.

(01:15:21):
It came out in August in the UK. I do
not know when the release date will be in the
United States. But it is kind of kind of a
weird concept to me. It sounds to me like it
was two different movies that somehow got I don't know,
large nerdrunk collider together or something interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
One of my one of my friends made a short
that one at a local horror film festival in Marietta
about an ice cream truck that was actually rather fun,
So I don't know it it's sad that it didn't
they didn't mash it together a little bit better, like
because all of our mashups are completely brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Yeah, I mean they're flawless, really yeah. And I don't know.
I have not seen this movie, so I cannot speak
to its quality. I can only talk about my impression
based on the trailer, and even in the trailer, like
the Pine Piper, things seemed to come out of nowhere
after what I thought it was going to be like
an Exorcist style movie, And with a title like The Confession,

(01:16:24):
it sounds like it's going to be like a Catholic
religious horror kind of movie, and it apparently isn't, so
that's wild. Then we have The Plantation, and this is
about a group of friends, including an interracial couple, who
go hiking in Louisiana to visit various plantation sites including

(01:16:44):
slave quarters. You know like you do and racial horror follows.
So some snarky commenters on YouTube have left comments that
said things like this is get Out if it was
produced by Timu the the Chinese cheap product platform, or

(01:17:04):
some other said it looked like it was a combination
of get Out and the film Anti Bellum from like
twenty nineteen. This comes to digital on December nineteenth. This
one also looks like it was not it doesn't look
well made to me. Again, not to not to disparage
the people who worked on it, but and maybe it's

(01:17:28):
just the way the trailers cut, but it did not
look like it was particularly skillfully made. But there you go.
Next we have Sleepwalker.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
I did not watch that one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
You didn't watch Plantation? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
No, and I don't think I want to I like
to get out.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
But did you watch Sleepwalker?

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
I did not watch Sleepwalker?

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Okay, so we're starting your note.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
I thought it said geriatric supernatural.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Horror to be really, what did I write?

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Generic?

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Generic? Okay? Yeah, this one did feel very generic psychological
slash supernatural horror to me. So this one we were
moving a bump up in in budget. I think Hayden
Pantieri is in this one, as in the you know,
Save the Cheerleaders, Save the World from Heroes. She's in

(01:18:19):
this and her character is play She's a mom, her
husband's in a coma.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Mom, she's terrifying.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
She's a mom. Yeah, already scary, right, She's a mom.
She's lost a child in a car accident, and her
husband's in a coma. Her husband apparently was very abusive,
and she I believe still has a young son. Either
that or she's taking care of a boy who is
not at all related to her. I don't know. It
was a trailer so, but she suffers from sleepwalking, or

(01:18:53):
she did when she was a child, and now she's
doing it again. She's visiting her like childhood home, and
she's having these sleepwalking episodes and is encountering seemingly supernatural
horror elements like ghosts and visions of that sport. So
I'm like, is it is it psychological? Is it supernatural?

(01:19:13):
Is it a combination? I don't know. But it comes
to theaters and on demand on January ninth, so it's
one of those. It geinst like the the simultaneous release
on both styles. I'll if I watch it, I'll be
watching it at home. I will not go to the
theater for this one.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
I don't want to watch it. Though I did look
at Hidden Peditara's Instagram. She just went red, Oh nice.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Well that's a bummer because now I kind of have
another girlfriend. Okay, all right, well there we go. Don't
no one tell her? And I know I have to
keep repeating myself, but no one tell her. She doesn't
need to know. It's fine. I'm not gonna be I
never leave the house, so she doesn't have to worry

(01:20:00):
about me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
I did watch the next one, Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
A town called Purgatory. What did you think?

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
I watched it because your snarky commentary made me think
it might be like the larp that I that ended
that I enjoyed playing so much Westerns and Monsters because
I basically played Dean Winchester at a creepy Kithu Louis
Western style larp.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
It was okay, yeah, no this so the people who
are in it are also the people who made it, Like, okay,
it's one of those where like the two of the
actors are the principal folks who got this movie made.
I first saw a trailer for this back in twenty
twenty one, so it's been finished for a few years,

(01:20:52):
or at least finished enough to have a trailer cut
for a few years. But clearly it was one of
those things where they were trying to find distribution for it.
It is now getting distribution. It goes to video on
demand on December ninth. But the basic story is a
couple of law men go to a town that appears
to be deserted and they find out that there is

(01:21:13):
a Native American mystical entity that is running amuck and
killing people, and that entity is a skin walker essentially,
which makes me uneasy because I feel like this is

(01:21:33):
sort of cultural appropriation, you know. I get nervous about
these kind of things. It's kind of like if you
see a movie about a win to go like, that's
an element of folklore that belongs to a very specific culture,
and to appropriate that in order to tell a monster story.

(01:21:55):
That's hard to do in a way that is not disrespectful,
is what I'll say.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
But then I also infamously, infamously loved the Leprechaun series,
So what do I know? They're just Irish? Who cares?
So I say that to someone who has a lot
of Irish ancestry, So I'm being flippant. Next we have
The Strangers Chapter three. So this one's another interesting story.

(01:22:23):
Did you I'm guessing you did not watch this one.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
I didn't. I haven't liked any of The Stranger's stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Neither of I. There's no reason for you to watch
this trailer. It is more of the same. So when
they were shooting this particular trilogy of the Strangers, it's
kind of like a total reboot of the Strangers movie
that came out years ago. They went ahead and shot
three movies worth of content. Essentially, they have this idea

(01:22:51):
of shooting all three movies back to back or more
or less simultaneously. Here's the thing is, the first two
chapters did not do so well. The second chapter really
didn't do well, and there was even some people questioning
whether or not Chapter three would even come out because
the first two did so poorly. But they had already
shot it so like it almost it's like sunk cost fallacy.

(01:23:15):
You kind of got to see it through because you've
already got the stuff right. This trailer did not make
me think it looks any better or really worse than
the other two. But I didn't think the other two
looked good. I was hopeful that the third chapter would
see the woman who's essentially been the final girl in
the first two chapters turned the tables, and that the

(01:23:38):
hunters would become the hunted, and that the third movie
would essentially be like the third act of your typical
horror movie where the victim takes kind of control back
and turns the tables on the bad game that doesn't
happen in every slasher film obviously, just a subset of them,
but I was kind of hoping that that's what this
would be. It is not, as far as I can tell.

(01:23:59):
It does come out, so people who are invested in
that series, if you want to see it through, that's
when it comes out. I never really got into this one.
I watched the first The Strangers movie, not The Strangers
Chapter one, but the actual first The Strangers. I believe
it's hard for me to remember because there's a lot
of home invasion horror movies and they all kind of

(01:24:21):
blend together in my head. So what about the Yeah,
whether it's a slasher, a ghost, a demon, a vampire, a.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Werewolf, scary is scary. No, I did not watch a session.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Oh this one. You totally could have watched. This is
is a very short teaser.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Your commentary on it made me think, like, I exactly
do not want to watch any of them.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Oh no, this one. Like there's nothing horrific that happens
in this teaser at all, other than like there's an
implication because it's a consent thing, but it's it's not
like there's no like violence or even real tension, the obsession.
The teaser has a young man in a car. He's

(01:25:11):
making a call to a service line because he had
a product that granted him a wish, and so he's
talking to ask if that wish could be altered in
any way. And he's talking to someone who sounds like
they're stoned out of their mind. He's like, what, dude,
you want to cancel your wish? He said, no, I
don't want to cancel it. I want to alter it.

(01:25:32):
And he says that the reason why he wants to
alter it is that he says, does you know the
person I wished for someone to like me? And I
want to know if it's real. He says, well, of
course it's real. I said, well, I know the wish
is real. I want to know if her feelings for
me are real. He's like, well, you made it real,
is what he says. So that's like the little teaser. Yeah,

(01:25:54):
so it's creepy because it's talking about removing someone's agency, right,
like like forcing someone to love you because you have
removed their free will. Essentially, that's the creepy part. But
it's just that in the teaser, like they don't show
they don't show who this person is that he's talking about.
I thought it was kind of an interesting way to

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promote it. I'm sure we'll get more trailers in the future,
and I'm intrigued because it feels like it's kind of
a monkey's paw situation. This comes out May fifteenth, so
it'll be a while before it comes out. I'm sure
we'll get, you know, more thorough trailers as we get closer.
Then we got Ready or Not to here? I come.

(01:26:38):
Did you see Ready or Not with me? In the theater?

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
I did not see Ready or Not with you? I watched.
I did watch the trailer for that one, okay, and
I watched the trailer for this one. I actually had
a friend who was very excited about Ready or Not
Too coming out. I didn't. I didn't bother to be like,

(01:27:02):
I've never saw that one because I didn't want to
ruin their excitement. The first trailer looked interesting, I thought
I might want to see it. This second trailer I
just find disturbing. The second trailer feels a bit more
Saw to me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
I mean, the first one's kind of that way too,
not as extreme as Saw, but you know, it's all
about it's essentially the most dangerous game. It's another take
on that like hunting people kind of thing, But the
first one was definitely like a dark comedy horror movie
where a young woman who's newlywed goes to meet her

(01:27:40):
husband's family at their estate and then finds out that
she is to be the sacrifice in this weird ritual
that they do in order to maintain their sense of
status and power, and she's essentially set loose in the
on the estate and the rest of the family are
trying to hunt her down, and whoever kills her wins,
and she ultimately spoiler alert, turns the tables on the

(01:28:03):
family and manages to survive. The sequel reveals that the
family was part of the larger group of folks who
all kind of share this lifestyle, if you will, this
thing about sacrificing people in order to maintain their power,
and they have gathered together to have a much larger

(01:28:25):
hunt to hunt down this young woman because she had
the audacity to not die, and to kill her would
be killers. So I wrote that it's the same movie again,
but biggerer, or actually I wrote more biggerer. Yeah, I
found this to be kind of a disappointing trailer because

(01:28:47):
it felt so similar to the first one, just with
more killers. I guess this comes out April tenth. Oh.
It also adds a sister to the main character, so
now she has her sister that she also is trying
to keep alive, and her sister is unaware of what

(01:29:09):
has happened previous to this and is largely useless. So
that's the other added complication is that now there are
two people that she has to try and keep alive,
and one of them is her sister, who is sort
of trying to catch up and figure out what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Bog cast.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Good, great cast, But yeah, I don't know that this
is different enough from the first film to really interest me.
Then we've got a trailer for twenty eight years later,
The Bone Temple. Did you watch this one?

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
I figured you might because I knew that you had
seen some of the other twenty eight days Later series.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
Twenty eight Days I think I saw twenty eight weeks later.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
So why did you think of this trailer?

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
First of all, I didn't realize this is that this
was separate from twenty eight years later until today.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
It's essentially twenty eight years later. Part two, Part two.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Yeah, because I haven't watched twenty eight years later yet,
I don't have the full context. So to me, seeing
someone trying to like having maybe a foot up on
finding a cure seemed interesting. And there's some interesting like

(01:30:25):
social dynamics that happened in the trailer. But overall, I
think it's probably just going to be disturbing and disappoint me.
Where I want there to be growth, there probably will
not be.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
I mean, Ray Findes is in it. He looks like
he's having fun playing. Yeah, here's a weird thing. He's
playing someone who seems to be a little off his rocker.
A big stretch for mister Fines. One of the best
actors that I have seen, but he tends to play
a lot of crazy characters as of late. Like the Menu,

(01:30:57):
he appears to be playing a doctor who thinks he's
finding a cure for the rage virus. I think. And
then you have like a gang that are the Jimmy's,
Like all the characters in their gang are named jim
some variation of Jimmy or something like that. There's I
looked it up. There's Jimmy Crystal, Jamie, jim Mima spelled
as Jim Mima, Jimmy Jones, et cetera. Interestingly enough, who

(01:31:26):
was it that played the main character in Twenty eight
Days Later? He was Scarecrow in Silly and Murphy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
I'm like, it's not cur.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Well, it could be Killian Murphy. He so his character's
name is Jim. So I'm wondering if the Jimmy's are
taking their name after Jim, Like if in this region
Jim has this almost iconic kind of reputation. I don't know.
This one comes out January nineteenth. I did not watch

(01:31:56):
twenty eight years Later. I really like Twenty eight Days Later.
I think that's a great horror movie. I will say
that the vibes I get out of twenty eight years
Later The Bone Temple feel like it's telling the story
of how the real monsters are other human beings. I'm like,
I know that we know that from every zombie movie ever.
Can we just can we move beyond that story element?

(01:32:21):
Because the Jimmy's look like they're they're worse than the
zombies are, right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Yeah, I feel like at one point Ralph finds the
friends one of the rage people. Yeah, in the trailer, Yeah,
very like I kind of got like of mice and
men vibes. For a brief moment, I.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Was getting Day of the Dead with Bub who is
an undead soldier in that one. I was getting those
kind of vibes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
I haven't watched it, so I don't know who Bubb is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
It's not for you. Got a couple of other little
quick stories I want to mention one. These are not trailers,
but just kind of stories that I thought were interesting.
One is I saw an announcement of a horror movie
called Hannah Goes to Hell that's going into production. Slackjaw
Film is producing. It's going to feature either Crizzy or Cursey.

(01:33:15):
It's krsy, so I have no idea how to say
your name Fox. She was in Terrifier three, but she
is going to be in this as well as the
legendary Adrian Barbo, an actress whom I adore. She was
in so much schlocky stuff in the eighties, but she

(01:33:36):
always put in a great performance. Typically plays either the
toughest person in the movie or a sex pot or
a combination of the two, and she's just phenomenal anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
This is not to be confused with the adult movie
with the same title just to.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Say no, Hannah Goes to Hell is a movie that's
in development that's not an adult movie. I mean, it's
a movie for adults, but it's not a it's not
a bouchika wow wow kind of movie. So the story
here is that the character of Hannah, which is Fox's character,
and her daughter are traveling to Hannah's childhood home to

(01:34:17):
look after Hannah's mother, who is played by Barbo, and
they encounter strange things in the town, like there's some supernatural,
spooky stuff going on. Sounds like it's a little bit
kind of wicker Man, a little bit hereditary. Like it's
hard to say what it's going to look like because

(01:34:38):
this is all in the development phase right. It's been written,
but it hasn't been shot, so there's not really anything
to point at. But I think it sounds promising and
I do love Adrian Barbo, so I'm hopeful that it
will be good. And finally, before we finally move out
of the Frickin' horror Hutch, we've got a horror sci

(01:35:01):
fi movie coming out called Iron Lung. And the thing
that's remarkable about this is, like some other horror movies
that have come out recently. A YouTuber is behind it. Right,
We had Zach Kreiger, who really was more known as
for a sketch comedy with whites kids, you know, but
we also had what was that? There was another one

(01:35:22):
that came out, Shelby Oaks that was also made by
a YouTuber.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Well, Mark, isn't a horror movie?

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Yeah it is? It is? Yeah, okay about a woman
whose sister has gone missing, so she goes back to
try and find She finds a videotape when they're missing
sister on it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
There was another movie that is coming out that looks
very delightful that I thought was Shelby Oaks. So I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Okay, Wow, I'm glad I saved you because if you
had gotten to see Shelby Oaks, you'd be like, this
is not what I thought it was going to be,
you know. So market Plier is the guy behind this,
and Iron Lung is actually a computer game, so he
needed a film adaptation of this computer game. It's set
in a distant future where people who are in space,

(01:36:13):
like in StarCraft or on space stations are the only
ones left, like planets and stars have disappeared. And then
this one group of people who have a collection of
spacecraft encounter a moon, a desolate moon that has an
ocean of blood on it, and they want to explore
what this place is, so they send essentially a convict

(01:36:37):
down inside a very tiny submarine to find out what's
going on down there, and if they die, no big deal,
because they were a convict, they could just send another
one down. And the story is taking place on the
thirteenth of such experiments. So twelve other times they've send
people down who did not come back. Interesting premise. I've

(01:37:01):
never played the game, but I know who market Plier is.
I actually I tend to watch content that's by one
of his friends, who's whose screen name is Jack septic Ey,
who is also in this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
So market Plier is a decent YouTuber.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Yeah, from what I understand, he's like, he's like one
of the folks who I've never heard of any like
scandals or anything associated with him. So that's a fresh feeling,
like because recently there have been quite a few pretty
grim stories coming out about different YouTubers, especially when it
comes to things like grooming and stuff. I've never heard

(01:37:40):
anything like that associated with market Plaier, not saying that
you know, he's a perfect human being or anything. But
I have not heard any terrible things like I have
with other YouTubers.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Okay, well that's good to hear. I think iron Lung,
which which has a typo in our in our show notes,
but it's gonna stay in our show notes for the website.
It's called I wrong long.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
To put a G on the end?

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
Yes one, yeah, so, but I've already put it onto
our website, so it's just going to stay there unless
I remember to change it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
I mean, you know, if we want that to be
a monument to my typos, I have no.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Problem with that. Listen, there's something wrong on that moon.
So it makes sense. It makes complete sense. But now
we're going to talk about the very few things we
have that actually fit into our show outside of Horror Horror.
If it's into our show, I'm not saying it doesn't, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
No, no, no, I'm not mad. I'm not mad, like that's
why you keep it separate. But I will say that
it's kind of unfortunate because this is one of the
shorter segments in our line.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
But that's good because we are an hour and forty
minutes into recording.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
That is true, and it'll probably be that long because
I don't expect to cut a whole lot of stuff out. No,
So what set it first up?

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
So first we got a trailer, kind of a reminder
trailer for the war between Land and Sea. This is
it's Doctor Who adjacent, so there are definitely Doctor Who
characters in it. It kind of feels more torch would honestly
because one of the main actors in it is from Torchwood.
I don't know if it is Torchwood proper though it
is Unit okay, So it's it's the land and the

(01:39:25):
Sea people are fighting, is basically it. We got a
pretty big trail trailer for it when it was first announced.
This is just a little reminder, but you know, the
original trailer was before they announced that Disney and BBC
Doctor Who were splitting their partnership. But this will be
out in December in the Kay in the UK, I

(01:39:45):
was to say, in the UK, and then in January
on Disney Plus. So we are still getting this special
over here. I think it looks fun and good. It
looks maybe a little bit more serious than a normal
Doctor Who episode than many of them normal Doctor Who episodes.
Some Doctor Who episodes are very serious and very tense,
but I feel like the makeup in it is phenomenal,

(01:40:08):
Like the budget feels much higher to me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
I felt like I had seen this before when it
was called Black Panther two oh, or The.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
Little Mermaid Revenge. It's not a real thing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
I was just thinking, like the sub Mariner and that
whole blot or or to some extent, the first Aquaman movie.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
That's true, that's true, But it's Doctor Who. So I'm
going to watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Well, you'll have to let me know how you what
you thought of it, because that's not my jam. But yeah, so, yeah,
it's the Sea Devils Versus Unit, which I mean, if
you had just told me it's a movie about the
Sea Devils Versus Unit and give me no more context
than that, I'd be like, I don't know what you're saying,
but I am intrigued.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
But here's the thing. Here's the thing. These sea devils
in this war between land and sea look pretty huge.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Like right, yeah, look, they're humanoid at least I the
sea devil's in the original Doctor Who, and then even
in the more I think.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
I don't remember if it was Jodie Foster or Chudy Goatwa,
but they brought him back. I think it was in
a Jodie Foster episode. They look like turtles with big
big ears, like turtles without shell like tall turtles, tall
skinny turtles without shells and big big ears. I encourage
you to look up a picture because there is a
vast difference in how they look between Doctor Who and

(01:41:33):
this special. But I don't mind it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Yeah. Next up, we got a trailer for the recently
retitled How to Make a Killing. It was formerly known
as Huntington. This is the movie starring my favorite actor,
Glenn Powell.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
So he's not winning you over in this trailer.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
Actually know what I actually thought he was. He was
perfectly fine in this trailer. I actually thought he was
pretty good in this trailer.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I was about to say. I
know that you've thought that he was kind of a
bland milk toast actor who played bland milk toast roles,
which would just be.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
Going to use exactly those words.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
Which I've listened to you occasionally. I actually do listen
and retain information.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Good to know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
That could just be the roles that he's been cast.
In this one, he's playing a guy who is kind
of down on his luck because he hasn't inherited his
family inheritance, and he someone jokes that he would have
to kill a whole bunch of people to do that,
and he kind of takes it to heart and tries
to hit on all of his It seems like not
great family. Hit on is the wrong word.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
He's trying to eliminate, assassinate, exterminate. So I need to
remember when I said The Dutchman is based off a
plague called Dutchman. Uh huh okay. So How to Make
a Killing is largely inspired by a film that Sir
Alec Ginnis was in titled what was it like, Kind

(01:43:08):
Hearts and Coronets something like that. Yeah, Kind Hearts and
Coronets is the title, and the gimmick in Kind Hearts
and Coronets same basic plot, right. You have a man who,
as a child was told he is part of this
wealthy family and by rights, he should inherit a good

(01:43:29):
amount of money, but the family has disowned the character's mother.
So he is the child of a woman who has
been disinherited by her family, but she has always maintained
that he is the legitimate recipient of that inheritance, so
it's been ingrained in his head. So he takes it

(01:43:50):
on himself to eliminate his terrible family members in order
to inherit his family's wealth. Well, the gimmick in Kinehearts
and Coronets is Sir Alec Ginnis plays all the members
of the family. That's fantastic, including the women and and so. Yeah,

(01:44:12):
so the main character is killing off through a guinnis
over and over again. Uh, this same that same plot,
including the bit where one actor plays all the relatives,
was adapted for a stage musical that even had a
Broadway run. It's called A Gentleman's Guide to Love and Murder. Oh,

(01:44:33):
so I wrote, well, I've never seen that play. I wrote, Finally,
here's that version of A Gentleman's Guide to Love and
Murder that removes all the pesky singing. Because I was
being silly that all of these derived from the same source, right,
it's not. I think even I think even Kineharts and

(01:44:53):
Coronets was based off a novel. So, uh, all of
these draw from the same source but tell the story
in slightly different ways. But they're all basically the same premise.
You know, this person who is raised to believe they're
the rightful inheritor of this wealth has decided to eliminate

(01:45:13):
really awful people like in kind, Hearts and Coronets. It's
really more of a commentary on the class system in
the UK, but obviously how to Make a Killing It's
going to be more about wealth than class because we
don't really have a class system in the United States,
not the same way anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
No, I mean New York vaguely, but depending on what
burrew you live in. But no, I'm kidding, No, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
I was just going to say we did mention before
I think last week or not last week two weeks ago.
That besides the retitling of this movie going from Huntington
to How to Make a Killing, this movie has also
been put into a February twentieth release date, and that
might be an indication that A twenty four has lost

(01:46:03):
some confidence in the film, probably because The Running Man
didn't do gangbusters at the box office, and that also
stars Glenn.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Powell, which I know has had back and forth reviews,
and some of the people I've seen have said, like, well,
if you're a Stephen King fan, it might be too
Edgar write for you. And if you're an Edgar Wright fan,
it might be too Stephen King for you. But the
friends that I know who have seen it have enjoyed it.
The running Man that is. Yeah, this feels honestly kind
of Edgar Wright. It's got like a quirky narrator kind

(01:46:33):
of style to it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Yeah. I thought the same thing. I thought it felt
a bit Edgar wright ish as well. It also is
very colorful, which is nice because a lot of the
other movies that we saw trailers for this week have
that muted color palette that I'm really getting tired of,
Like I can use some other colors besides grays and browns.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
Yeah. Yeah, So I'm excited to see Glenn Powell get
to have some more fun and pull you around to
his corner, Jonathan, it could happen. Yeah, next, speaking of
getting pulled around to a corner, I was not the
hugest fan of Game of Thrones, and I have not
watched The House of the Dragon whatever it's called. But

(01:47:19):
I am very excited for the Night of the Seven Kingdoms.
A Night of the Seven Kingdoms, and we got the
full trailer for it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Yeah, a night being a k K n I g
h T night not a not night time. Yeah. We
talked about this a few weeks ago when we got
a teaser for it. This time we got a longer trailer,
or maybe it was about the same length, but it
was slightly different material. This is based off novellas that

(01:47:46):
George R. Martin wrote called Tales of Dunk and Egg,
which are the references to the two kind of protagonists
of these stories. Dunk refers to the hedge Night, who
is the titular Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, and Egg
references a young boy who turns out to be a

(01:48:09):
targarian prince but is kind of, you know, slumming it
with his buddy Dunk and acting as his squire. And
it feels like it's one of those things where Dunk
is a very good natured person who genuinely wants to
be a force of good in a world that doesn't

(01:48:29):
really appreciate that very much. And I get the feeling
that Egg admires Dunk and wants to look out for
him because Egg, between the two, Egg is far far
more worldwise than Dunk is. An Egg is like nine.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
Yeah, Yeah, except for egg is it's more snarky a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Yes, it feels like I thought this was a good trailer.
Like I'm sure it's still going to be very violent,
but it doesn't look nearly as grim as Game of
Thrones Dead.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
Yeah, it looks. It looks darling. I'm very hopeful for it.
I kind of hope it's it's the entry into that
world that I really enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
Comes out January eighteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
Yeah. Also something I had no idea about as a
book or an upcoming film that Jonathan found the trailer
for that I also think looks actually absolutely darling. Is
the Magic Farawah Tree.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
I think it's far away, far away, Yeah, as in
it's far away.

Speaker 1 (01:49:41):
The Magic Faraday Tree.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
It's a tree where if you're inside it, your cell
phone doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
Yes, I mean that might be the grease.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
I don't know. I haven't read the books, so I
can't tell you. Yeah, this is This is based on
some children's books that were written from like the late
nineteen thirties to the early nineteen fifties, don't I think
there's only a few of them, but that's the span
of time where they were published and it's about a
family that relocates to the country, and obviously everything's been

(01:50:12):
updated for a modern telling of this story. So like,
this is a family where you've got kids who are
like one of the kids is a boy who's absolutely
addicted to his screens, like he has to be on
a tablet or something where he's going out of his brain.
You've got like the older daughter who is the more cynical,

(01:50:33):
surly character, and then you have a young daughter who
is more whimsical and prone to adventure, and she's the
one who initially gets called out to. Like they relocate
to the countryside, but there's some woods that border their
the area where they live, and the little girl goes

(01:50:53):
exploring and discovers magical people who live inside the forest.
And then the look.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
They look a little bit styled, like who's without you know,
the who faces.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
Yeah, there's like the moonfaced man who has has a
hairdoo that looks like a crescent moon like yeah, and
the saucepan man who is covered with saucepans.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
And then there's Dame wash a lot in mister oom
boom boom. Honestly, these names made me have to look
up and make sure that it wasn't related to a
Wrinkle in Time. Yeah, it can maybe that kind of whimsy.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Yeah, it reminds me a bit of things like Phantom
Toll Booth and Wrinkle in Time. And I know, I
know Phantom Told Booth is your favorite book of all times.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
But I never ending story, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
But yeah, I don't like never Ending Story because it's
false advertising.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
Well, you just haven't worked hard enough at it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
You have to loop back around at the beginning. Uh. Yeah,
I thought I thought this trailer looked absolutely lead charming.
I agree, And there's some fun people in it, Andrew
Garfield's and it, Claire Foy, Michael Palin, Jennifer Saunders, Simon
glood Coughlin. Yeah, Simon Farnabee is the one who was

(01:52:15):
responsible for adapting the story. He also appears as as
farmer in this. If you ever have seen Horrible Histories,
he's in that. He's also appeared a couple of times
in shows like The Mighty Boosh, so I always I'm
always pleased to see his face pop up.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
Yeah. I I had to share this with with some
of my friends because when I watched it, I was like,
this is just so darling.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
It's a kid's movie, I know, but I want to
see it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
Yeah, for sure. I find I often find English children's
movies to be more palatable than American ones because I
feel like they appeal to again a sense of adventure
and win, but they don't tend to talk down to
their intended audience, and American films often do.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
I agree. I agree, there's a little less sugarcoating.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
Yeah, and things like scary stuff can happen in English,
like in English children's programming, and it used to happen
in American children's programming, but it doesn't anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
Yeah, So let's talk about a programming that I don't
know you watched. It didn't have much scary in it.
For Snow on Fragle Rock.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
Oh No, that wasn't scary at all. I will say
Magic Faraway Tree comes out March twenty seventh, twenty twenty six. Okay, first,
first Snow of Fragle Rock was adorable. I mentioned before,
it felt the most Henson like project from the Henson
Studios in a while, probably since Electric Mayhem. Like, there's

(01:53:54):
there's some metahumor going on, there's some some really like
there's just there were just moments that made me think
this is like classic Muppets slash classic fraggle rock humor
and performance that come through there. There is a moment
where a muppet character encounters the person who the character

(01:54:19):
they encounter is played by the puppeteer who puppeteers that
that Muppet character. So the muppet and their puppeteer encounter
each other and they're like, have we met? Like you
seem really familiar, and like if you don't know, then
it's just like why is this here? But for people
geeks like me, I'm like, oh, that is cute. Having

(01:54:42):
having a puppeted, a puppeteered character and their puppeteer interacting
in the same scene is cute. They have a bit
with a musical artist whom I was not familiar with
that is absolutely adorable. The music style has been up dated,
and that was a little jarring to me because it

(01:55:03):
felt a little like like auto tune boy bandish to
me a little bit the way it sounded, and that's
just not what I associate with fraggle rock. Doesn't mean
it's a bad thing, just meant that it was alien
to me because I haven't watched any of the Fragle
Rock since Apple TV picked it up, and I feel

(01:55:24):
like I need to now because I really did enjoy
this quite a bit. I like how it was. The
story they tell is incredibly simple. It was also really
easy to identify strongly with Gobo because the main story
is that Gobo has been putting off writing a song
for their big holiday celebration, and the holiday celebration is

(01:55:47):
like it's like ready to go, but Gobo doesn't have
a song yet and is desperately trying to extricate himself
long enough to be able to write a song that's
at least as good, if not better than the last
song he did the previous year. So it's like it's
like him procrastinating and finding ways to justify that procrastination
and trying to figure out a way out of that procrastination.

(01:56:10):
I'm like, Gobo, I see you, I am the I
am you Gobo.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Yeah, I know that feel as well. Well. I look
forward to watching it. I always try to find something
new in Christmasy, maybe this and the Christmas Heist movie
that's coming out on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
This is adorable. It's like forty five minutes, maybe not
even that, maybe forty It's adorable. It is silly in
all the right ways. The performances are corny, but if
you have a soft spot for that, like I do,
it's incredibly charming. So highly I highly recommend it for

(01:56:49):
people who like that kind of thing. If corny humor, Like,
if you watch an old Muppet show and you can't
get past how corny it is, like, that's not appealing
to you. This isn't gonna work for you there. But
if that is the kind of thing you like, check
it out. If you have Apple TV, for.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
Sure, and if you like our show, tell your friends
to check it out. Because we have made it to
the end of our epic happens every time we miss
a week episode.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
Yeah, we're closing in on two hours, so I am
not going to give you there's no way to get
in touch with me this week, Ariel. If they want
to get in touch with you, how do they do it?

Speaker 1 (01:57:26):
You can also get in touch with Jonathan through me.
You can reach out on social media on Facebook, Instagram,
and threads. We are a larger drum Collider. We're also
that on discord. You can get in vtation to our
discord if you need it. On our website Www. Dot
largenersdron Collider dot com. That's also where all of our
show notes are. You can also send us a long

(01:57:49):
term email at largener drum Pod at gmail dot com.
We love hearing from you. Thanks for all of your
interaction and excitement about the geeky world around us that
you share with us. We love hearing from you, and
we will try to bring back mashups if we ever
get an episode that's under an hour and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
Again, yeah, since we're at two hours and like twenty
seconds now, this is not the time for us to
do a mashup.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
No, no, but but we do want to bring them
back here and there as we can. So thank you
to the people I've written to us about that as well.
And until next time, I am Aeriel not so far
Away Caston, and.

Speaker 2 (01:58:35):
I am Jonathan. I want to see something really scary Strickland. No,
I didn't ave you, Okay. The large Nerdron Collider was
created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,

(01:58:56):
published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
McLeod of incomptech dot com.

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