February 2, 2026 • 30 mins
Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers recall their favorite moments from past Winter Olympics. While growing up, both of our hosts had brushes with Olympic history that created lifelong memories. Stars like Chloe Kim and Shaun White have Olympic history and Kim will be looking to create more in 2026. What are the other best Winter moments in history? Find out in the latest episode of Two Guys, Five Rings!!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Ring, ring, ring ring.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Those are five rings you just heard. We're two guys
sitting here and chairs podcasting as it were. And that's
because this is the two Guys five Rings podcast with
me and Matt Rogers.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
And Nebo and Yang. This is somehow official Olympics coverage.
NBC and iHeartRadio a partnership of two of the most
important employers of mine. I would say that you would
be broke without these people. I would be destitute. You
would have to beg for it on the streets for
(00:44):
what exactly, nobel, But what would I be beg What's it?
What am I begging for? I don't. I'm just saying
you'd have to hit the corner. Did you ever watch
an English teacher? I did not. Oh my god, unseen
where this girl, this this young girl in class and
she's disruptive. She's disruptive and she says, I'm not learning anything.
(01:07):
I'm gonna have to hit the corner. Sir. What's the
oldest job ever? You know? Italy is one of the
oldest cultures. Yes, Italy, I'm behind that, barb barb. What's
the oldest culture that's still I mean, my dad would
tell you that China is the oldest current civilization.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We should say we have uh, the incredible Barb who
is here. We're told on facts.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Now, we were expressly told just seconds ago that she's
here on a.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Specifically Olympic Olympics. But that doesn't mean that we're not
going to put her on the spot for any old thing.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I think if you bring Barb to trivia at high
Tops on Tuesday, I think she whipped something out every
now and oh but no, I'm saying you're unstoppable with.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, you're really especially during an Olympics round, especially
during Olympics round.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But I bet Barb knows about film history, about pop
you know, just what what what else? Film pop culture?
What's the oldest civilization? Is it Mesopotamia? Business team a Syria, Mesopotamia.
That's but that's that's oldest? Uh no longer there. I
think it's Egypt and China are sort of the oldest
remaining bias. Well, well this is what my dad, the
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Sumerian civilization looking in Ninja, Mesopotamia on day Iraq is wide.
They considered the world's oldest civilization. Well that's Jason, thank
you for that. Is that where Mesopotamia? I didn't. I
guess that just but but we're asking Barb. We asked Barb,
So what is Barb thinking? But I'm asking Barb? What
is the old what is the oldest current civilization? What's
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the oldest current civilization? Barb? Imagine she comes down and
she's like Beverly Hills, and we have to reveal that
Barb don't know, doesn't bar bar Barb talent? Bar Barb
is a fraud. It's not Beverly Hills. It's Barb Barb.
That's it. That's a zip code. Honey. Well, well, Barber
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is working away at this. We'll give you time to
think about it. Barb. Where were we saying, o oldest job,
oldest civilization Italy? Where in Milan? I think we're gonna
go back in history today in this episode episode four. Yeah,
and really narrativize the top moments of the Winter Olympics.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So in a way like this whole intro actually made
a lot of sense and feels pretty intense historic.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Absolutely. Yeah, well great, well great.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now do you just, off the top of your head
before we consult our sup boards, do you have any
Winter Olympic moments or let's just do this Winter sports
memories in general, let's stir your soul.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You Now, how deep do you want me to go?
Because I have memories of How deep do I want
you to go? Honey? Honey, China is the oldest continuous civilization.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
According to Barb, China is the oldest continuous civilization. Congrats,
thank you, you have done great things.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Thank you so much. Would you say that you are
the most famous Chinese? I sent out cast member. I
think I think it's it's between me and Phil Harmon. Great.
I think why did you leave the show? You know,
(04:23):
I was I was going to go to the I
had an inmitation to go to Milan. Oh that's good.
I'm happy. I'm not going by myself. Sorry, Lauren, Sorry Lauren.
He belongs to me. Now. Of course, it's all about ownership.
It's all about ownership. Now. I you asked me what
my my Winter Olympic memories are winter sports?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I just want to know, like, do you have anything
that jumps out at you that that really roused you
when it came to the Winter Olympics or winter sports
in general? Like, before we get into the nuts and bills,
I want to get personal.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yes, well, growing up in Montreal. Yes, was a sort
of a very Olympic place because the seventy six games,
I believe Barb confirm were there. Yes, she said immediately immediately, yes, Well,
the China thing took you a while.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So because she's the Olympics source, I mean like she
she's not necessarily all about ancient civilizations. Like if this
were a Jeopardy map and two categories were ancient civilizations
and the other one was Olympic trivia, Barb would be
eating up the Olympic trivia. But now we know not
to tag her in like you do in Jeopardy.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Like you do in Jeopardy. But Barb as Montreal Eber
hosted the Winter Olympics seventy six was a was it
was a summer year.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
No, wo said, that's interesting. So remember one I was like,
what's your memory? And then you said this that wasn't
a memory.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It No, I'm saying the Olympics loomed large in Montreal
because the Olympic Stadium, the Olympic the villain Calgary and Vancouver, Yes,
Calgary nineteen eighty eight, Vancouver twenty ten, which is a
plot point in heated rivalry. Yeah, oh yeah, two Winter
Games katakiel is shockingly low. It does, doesn't it does?
(06:03):
It does? Now? I the Olympics loomed large. Yes, so
we But then also it meant that you go to
the Olympic Stadium. There's a pool there that's in use,
there's ice ranks that are in use. I don't believe
I've skated on the ice rink, but you would. Just
skating and hockey, we're a big part of Canadian life,
(06:24):
especially as a child. Yeah. And so then when we
moved to the US, you know, the legend of Michelle
Kwan was a huge thing, especially amongst Asian people. And
then two thousand and two Salt Lake was devastating, of course, yes,
oh my god, what is it? What is it?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It was two thousand and two Salt Lake when Sarah
Hughes won bar. Sarah Hughes win the gold medal and
women's figure skating. Yes, okay, so this transitions to my thing, please,
because you know how your civilization is Montreal, misation.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Long Island. That's one of the oldest civilizations. It's one
of those that is that is the first suburb is
actually that is the first Long Island was the first suburbs.
According to the Long Island Serial Killer documentary, Yes, Barb, Barb,
can we check on that anyway? Sarah Hughes is Long
Island Zone.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Wow, I'm Long Island Zone and so watching I remember her,
she was ranked like fourth or fifth like that they were.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Not checking for her, and then I remember.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
She gave the most joyous I think it was a
long program that I had ever seen, Barb. What was
the really famous routine that Sarah Hughes did that like
kind of solidified her gold medal?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Was it the long program or the short program? Oh
my god, I love that she knows. It's so funny
that that she was just introduced to us as someone
that we could use, and we're abusing her long program.
Thank you? Oh my god, she's incredible. You're amazing. And
what about Long Island is a suburb? Yeah? Was Long
Island the first?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Remember you gotta get back to us that that's that's
just a quick google long program?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
What about Long Island for suburbs?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Now talk about she was in fourth place after the
short program. This actually, I believe was a Michelle Kwan
year when it looked like pretty likely and this is
why you say Salt Lake was devastating.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yes, yeah it was, because that's so funny that that
that Long Island beat Asia.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
See, yeah, exactly, And this is our little damn battling today.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
This is right here, right right here on two guys,
five rings. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well so anyway, it's just interesting how all the themes
are coming together because Mariah Carry from Long Island, Sarah
Hughes from Long Island, a favorite memory of mine from Long.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Island, et cetera. History Sameria, Samiria.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Gay guys da Vinci davin She sorry, duh the duh.
Every time you think you are saying da Vinci, just remember.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Duh, didn't she. That's a little you can use.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But anyway, I remember feeling still sad for Michelle Kwan
that even though my hometown girl Sata just came out
on top of the US took the gold medal.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You wanted to see Michelle Kwan win, of course, but
it was thrilling watching Sarah Sleigh. The name Levittown may
spring to mind when you think of the origins of
American suburbs, a symbol of post World War Two optimism
and domestic company. The Long Island development, constructed between nineteen
forty seven and fifty one is often credited as America's
first modern suburbs. Yep, really good? Have you always known that? No?
(09:28):
I learned this from, as I said, the Long Isron
Island Serial Killer. Oh right, exactly. Do you watch a
lot of scary dark content every now and then, especially
during the winter months. It's very pertinent to the show.
Oh yeah, yeah. So it's like it's sort of like
it makes you feel cozy a little bit aw Now, Barb,
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what was the song that Michelle skated to after she
lost the gold? But it was just a gorgeous sort
of she was dressed in a gold outfit and was
it fields of bar it was? It was that song
fields of gold, fields of gold? Was it beyond the
fields of gold? The fields of gold?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Was it fields of fields of gold?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I don't remember what Sarah hugheses I remet. The song
was absolutely rousing, you really song choice for this stuff.
It was crazy. It was fields gold saying yes, no, no, no,
that sounds right, and it was oh God, on the
fields of gold. And she didn't win gold, but she
was beyond the fields of gold. I would agree she
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was beyond the fields of gold. And certainly you know what.
I hope she feels. Okay, I'm sure she does. She's
Michelle Kwan.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, I'll never forget. So that that Olympics that Sarah
Hughes did win, they just cut to the door.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Of no, you can't do that, you can't. It was really, really,
really tough. It was just like and I remember the
announcer was like, and.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Michelle Kwan behind closed doors tonight not earning any medal.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Or maybe she won the bronze. Hey, Barb, did Michelle
Kwan when the bronze that your first of La City?
Or was did she not meddle at all? I think
she medles. I think I seem to remember that she metal.
But this is why we have Barb here. She won
silver and bronze, said to bronze was not what she wanted.
Bronze AVI clearly. Otherwise she would have picked fields of
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bronze which doesn't even exist. She would have written the thing.
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We haven't even gone to our top moments.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So we're here to discuss the top Winter Olympic moments
and listen to this name, Chloe kim Icon. Remember when
she redefined the half pipe in twenty eighteen. In twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Kung Chang and Beijing. Mm hmm, this is be very
speaking of Asia, I cannot wait to see her shred
in Europe because she's back. She might do a three
peet At just.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Seventeen years old, Chloe Kim arrived at the twenty eighteen
pyeong Chang Winter Olympics already turning heads in the snowboarding world.
In the half pipe final, Kim's first run was remarkable,
and she had already secured the gold medal even before
her final run.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
But she completed the last run anyway and raised the
bar even further, executing the realm with flawless amplitude, rotation
and style, improving her score by four point five points.
Her final run score was ninety eight point twenty five
out of one hundred.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Can you imagine your victory lap being better than anything
that came before it?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's Chloe Kim ninety eight point twenty five out of
one hundred. That's like getting a five on ap CALC.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's like getting a four thirty two MILEI My mile
time was a four thirty six. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So four years later in Beijing, Chloe Kim, who took
a couple of years off after her twenty eighteen win,
returned to the Olympic stage with the world watching to
see if she could defend her title. She delivered once again,
performing with precision, creativity, and confidence that belied her age.
Her back to back Olympic wals cemented her dominance in
the sport, inspiring a generation of young snowboarders and proving
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that women's snowboarding could reach new levels of athleticism and artistry.
And here's something else I want to say. I like
her as a blonde. I like her as a blonde,
I really do. I like her as a blonde with
a beanie.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Blonde beanie, it's giving. Oh I want you to do
a blonde beanie. No, no, no, that's not gonna look good,
But blonde beanie is giving. There's there's a character in
the Final Fantasy video game series, Barb can you can
you check on this named snow and he is blonde
with a beanie with the black beanie, much like Chloe
Kim in this photo that we're looking at now. She
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could be the first snowboarder to win gold three consecutive
Olympic Games, but her event is not until day six.
Two people could beat her to that check yez ester
Ladeca Ladetska, I'm so sorry. In Austria's Anagasser who are
competing Day two and three. But she recently stated that
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she suffered an injury while training at a half pipe
at Lax. She said an MRI I revealed a torn
laboram but the severity of the tear was on the
lower end, which will allow her to return to snowboarding
right before the Olympics. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Chloe said she's not very happy with the amount of
reps she'll get before the Olympics, but she was quoted
as saying, I've been doing this for so long, and
every season I met with a different set of challenges,
So I guess this is going to be the one
this year. But I'm so grateful that I will be
good to go for the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Can I ask you a question. You're an avid skier, Well,
how much have you snowboarded? Zero? So you haven't done
what Chloe Kim has and I never will done. You
don't think you'll ever do it. And this is I'm
going to say something and the communities, these respective communities
may vehemently disagree and push back. I have my finger
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on my lip like an interviewer. Chinese American ski, Korean
American snowboard. What is Chloe Kim Korean American? She's Korean American,
She's a snowboarding This is my cultural observation at the
tender age of nine. I want to say, ten, are
there a ton of Korean Americans? That there's a lot
of Koreans in Denver, huge diaspora population of Koreans, more
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Korean diaspora folks in Denver than there are Chinese, and
a lot of Vietnamese folks as well. In terms of
the observation that I kind of arrived at early on.
And obviously this has changed because this was what in
like two thousand and two. I'm like, oh, all the
Korean people snowboard and all the Chinese people ski, and.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Isn't snowboarding notably more difficult? Say so, Apparently every time
you snowboard your core feels crazy, much like berries, much
like Barri's when you take Kyle Kay my favorite trainer.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
We love you, Kyle, I love you Kyle. We enjoyed
seeing you for New Year's I want to move on.
We wish Chloe came the best Chloe we hope to
see you, but for now we're going to move on. Oh,
here we go. Barb is saying Aileen Goo who competes
for China Group in San Francisco. She's a freestyle skier
ski My theory holds true, yet another Chinese skier. Ten
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eighties are three full rotations? Yes? Yeah, please?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I know all about ten eighties from the N sixty
four game ten eighty snowboard.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Nady Snowboarding. Is that the same thing as you're thinking
of SX extra? That was PlayStation two? This is you
beating my video game now?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh no, no, there was a time when actually I
think I could step to you as.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
A video game. I think. Sorry, No, I definitely can't. Yes,
you can. No, I don't know how to work the
controllers nowadays. You know this about me, you but you
can very You're very capable person.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You know there's going to be an all outsprint for
gold when it comes to what Jesse Diggins is.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Doing, because she could be the first. Yes, please you
go back to twenty eighteen. She stunted before the US
had never won an Olympic gold medal and cross country
skiing because the Nordics dominated as they have so many means.
They have the means to dominate. They have the legs,
they have the snow, they have the flat terrain. You
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just know Alexander Scar's guard skis Stellen. You know you
know Bill skis Bill Peter Peter sars Guard. There's Alexander
Scar's guard. I wasn't saying that he was in the family.
I think Peter is you know, maybe a h oh huh.
I hadn't even thought of him as Nordic. We are
generalizing a lot about different nations in this episode, and
(17:55):
Nordic noir is such a rich genre. The murder girl
with the dragon tattoo, Yes, yes, yes, that stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So Scars guards, Yes, I would agree, and I would say,
but I will say that Bill Scarsguard is hotter than
you think.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
No, he's very hot. I'm not saying he's not royal.
You real, you royal, you royal.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I wasn't saying hotter than you think, bo when I
was thinking hotter than the royal You thinks we were
used to seeing him as penny Wise.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He looks like a little bit of some people when
Da Vinci might like, uh huh, some people like penny
Wise are tracked sexually. Yes, I'm sure there's there's Hey,
there's there's people like that, do they?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Well, maybe you you're during the winter months, you're all
hold up in a dry corner.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Learning about the first suburbs.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Learning about the first suburbs. And you know, Bowen is
going to cook a wonderful dish to night. He's making
duck fried rice. These are just one of the many
like little things Bone gets up to in the winter
months and gonna have so much more time for why
did you leave?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
SNL? I thought we had Why did you leave? I
was invited to cover the Winter Olympics. Oh, that's a
wonderful thing. I'm happy I don't have to go by myself.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So the moment for Jesse Diggins came all the way
at the twenty eighteen Winter Olympics in Jungchan. Jesse Diggins
made history and a sport long dominated by Nordic countries.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And you're saying that Diggins is back. Yes, she's back,
but she has announced that she is retiring after the
Milan Courtino Winter Olympics and the World Cup finals in
March twenty twenty six. Congrats, but Diggins is now forever
immortalized in the Annals of History, We're we're reading about
her accomplishments. So what happened at the Battle of the
Carmens at the nineteen eighty eight Calgary Olympics. Both these
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girls chose Carmen.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, they both chose Bizet's Carmen for their final Olympic routine.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So that's just like, you know, that's just a little
did either and who won? Who? Barb? Who won? Barb?
Who won?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Katerina Katerina darn East Germany? Well, you know, god, East
Germany not spooky, there's some gorgeous art.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Wait, this is one of the great moments that I remember.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Remember Maria Nagasu, Yes, lands the triple axel in twenty eighteen.
The triple axle almost never gets landed in Olympic competition,
so this is huge from Maria Nagasu.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Ten eighty Yeah, yeah, is that essentially what that is? Right?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
A triple axle is a ten eighty? Hey, Barb, just
want to make sure that a ten eighty is a
triple axle, Barb? Or is it more? Oh, it's more.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's ten eighty is four nine sixty would be three,
you're right, so it's three sixty triple axles three point five,
but it's more than three. Yeah, so it's nine to
sixty plus one eighty, so it's ten eighty ten forty.
Look I never pretended to get a four on ap CALC.
That's right, ten forty. Triple axel is three and a
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half revolutions. So what's a quadruple axle four and a half? No? No,
three times three sixty is ten eighty. Three times three
sixty is ten eight ten eighty plus plus one eighty
is one one two six zero twelve sixty is a
quadruple axle. Wow as triple axle, which which Nagasu, I'm
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getting so overwhelmed. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. We need
to know this stuff. You need to get together quad
axles four point five, which literally Ilia might do at
this Olympics. Ilia another Ilia.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
See now we might need him to change his name.
There's only one Ilia in culture, I know.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Well, there's room for there's room for two ilias. Big
moody white gay. Was he's a big booty white gay.
He's a big booty white gay, big booty white gay.
Not a small booty, not a not a not a
medium sized booty. The big booty White. Gay Nagassi was
controversially left off the twenty fourteen US Olympic team despite
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finishing third. I hated that many thought her Olympic moment
had but no in the twenty eighteen Winter Olympics. Twenty
eighteen was a very very big year, controversial, controversial me
and Ryan Nagasu faced a moment that felt like both
personal redemption and a challenge to history. I don't too
love that well.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Speaking of triple you know that Sean White was the
first snowboarder to win three Olympic gold medals with his
come from behind wins in twenty eighteen in pyeong Chang.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Another peyong Chang moment, Yeah, another pyeong Chang sort of
had it going on. Peunchak was was gosh, this is
really when culture kind of felt good. This is back
when culture felt good pre pandemic, pre prey. But I'm
saying South Korea, North Korea marching, I've been the same
flag that was good, you know, Nagasu, Diggins. It's just
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a lot of Sean White.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
We also can't forget about. I mean because because it's
Bowen and I doing this, we have to mention Nancy
Kerrigan and Tanya Harding sharing Olympic ice after Karrigan's return
from her attack at the US National six week earlier,
which you know Tanya was connected to anyway. That short
program from the nineteen ninety five program of the nineteen
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ninety four Little Hell Games drew more than one hundred
and twenty six million viewers, making it the fourth largest
audience for any TV event and historic sports broadcast. You
want to sell soap, That's what this whole thing is
for soap selling commercials.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Oh my god. I can't even begin to unpack this.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I think our sponsors would agree, Barb. What is the
purpose of the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
The purpose of the Olympics. Yeah, but can you answer that, Barb?
How how would you answer that? Don't look it up?
I want I want you to write from the heart. Yeah,
and we will read your answer on the on thee.
This is more personal, Barb. So we we've not really
gotten to know you yet. We are very impressed with
your knowledge. Yeah, this must come from somewhere emotional.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I just want to say that before Barb says this.
She last said the quadruple actual is.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Four and a half revolutions Olympism is about the spirit
of the games. Olympism is about the spirit of the games,
and the spirit of the games is what you would
define as human triumph, human triumph, collective collective goals. Yes,
the idea that adversity strengthens one, strengthens one and many,
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and the idea that each one teach one. Are you
ready bringing people together, bringing together unity?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
That's beautiful, Barb, she said, bringing people together dot dot
dot unity.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Barbara, you are a poet. Was amazing. Your command of
your your your economy of language is truly staggering.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I haven't seen mastery like this since Bawn Yang took
the ap calculus test in high school.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Now, don't you agree? Has she not convinced you that?
Don't you agree?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
What Olympic sport would dou a liipa win, Barb? And
then we're gonna say our top three moments in Windsor history.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
While Barb comes up with that answer, I want to
ask you if Barb's answer Olympus is about the spirit
of the games, bringing people together dot unity. Has she
convinced you that it's not to sell soap? Oh?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, I think I was just jaded earlier, but now
I'm emotional from what Barb said, and actually I see
the light.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
It's almost like I watched the film Miracle Oh, which
was another moment, and of course the Jamaican bobsad team
in nineteen eighty eight in Calgary, which was the inspiration
behind Cold Runnings. Barb says that how about excellence, Barb,
you are we might have to change the title of
this podcast. It's two guys, five rings and Barb and
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Barb and one Barb.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I think Dua Lipa does would be really competitive for
the gold medal and excellence.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I saw her radical optimism tour.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I was thinking, it's the whole time to say it,
until now it's time to name our bronze, silver and
gold medals for Winter Olympic moments past.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I'm gonna say bronze is gonna go to Jamaican bobst
team in Calgary. Yes, just because it is so beautiful.
There's like for a country to have no winter sports tradition,
to then just have this beautiful underdog story and then
to inspire a beloved film that is peak Olympics culture
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to me. And yet I'm still giving a bronze because
we did not give it get a chance to really
talk about it. But that's that's just something that ever,
that is monoculture.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, I mean I think that for me, my silver,
this is gonna be controversial. I think my silver and
know we're gonna say metal Olympic Winter moment is not here.
Mine is the French judge. You know, I never let
it go.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
The French have never God, the first time you talked
about the French judge on Lost Cultures O their podcasts,
I knew that this was going to be a lasting thing.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Everyone knows what I'm talking about when I say just
three simple words, the French judge, French judge. When there
was a doubles it was it was uh figure skating
doubles and the Canadian couple who.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Were amazing married. By the way, since divorced, Sad Bob.
Why did they get divorced? Can we find out why
they who filed and what was the reason. This is
the Canadian figure skating duo who was given a co
gold medal with the Russians after the French judge. Okay,
(27:43):
we have the French judge.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Marie Jamie Sala and David Pelatzier.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yes, why did they get divorced? Oh? I don't want
I don't want us to No, no, no, they would
not want us to have to look that up. No, yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
While she's looking it up, I will say they were
my silver medal, and which is unfortunately what they were
given until they were given what they were supposed to
be gotten, gotten the gold. That French judge better not
show her face again, Miss.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Marie, Miss Marie Lagna, pronounce your name? What is the
gold medal winner for you? Blondekoe Kim blond Chloe Kim
is up there. No, I'm gonna say, I'm going to
say her Negosta. Yeah, that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It was rousing to see her come from behind like
that and land that ta the ta.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
But the fact that she wasn't even in twenty fourteen
like that is what the Olympics were about.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
To me, I'm gonna go ahead and guess that Barb
is uncomfortable sharing I knogling. The divorce were never mind.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well and they co parented well together.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The divorce was amicable and they co parented well together.
And isn't that the Olympic spirit? And here I was
thinking Barb would be uncomfortable airing their marital dirty laundry
out on.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
This huge podcast. That is the spirit of the games,
that is bringing people together, unity, co parenting. Can we
give a special gold medal on this episode too, Barb?
Can we do that? Yes, we are bar postcancer? Are
we pouncing her lasting? Sorry post cancer, you win the
speciable medal. You are invited back any time, Barb. You've
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been such a valuable resource. Thank you for entertaining our
really frivolous ass. She says, I am so honored, Barb.
Whether or not you are in Italy, we will be
toasting to you from Afar, from Milan, we will be
facing Stanford Word and we will be toasting you. You
are a legend. Thank you so much for joining us.
That's immediately, she says. He used to have a lot
(29:36):
of power at NBC. No more, no more, No, Why
did you leave that power behind? When did you leave
the show? All right?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
All three between the lines at home, because that's it
for another episode of us.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
The two guys who speak on the Five Rings and
Barb and Barb, and we end every episode with the
same stong back Bob, Bob. If you want to put
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history in the Barb
Ring, ring, ring ring.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Those are five rings you just heard. We're two guys
sitting here and chairs podcasting as it were. And that's
because this is the two Guys five Rings podcast with
me and Matt Rogers.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
And Nebo and Yang. This is somehow official Olympics coverage.
NBC and iHeartRadio a partnership of two of the most
important employers of mine. I would say that you would
be broke without these people. I would be destitute. You
would have to beg for it on the streets for
(00:44):
what exactly, nobel, But what would I be beg What's it?
What am I begging for? I don't. I'm just saying
you'd have to hit the corner. Did you ever watch
an English teacher? I did not. Oh my god, unseen
where this girl, this this young girl in class and
she's disruptive. She's disruptive and she says, I'm not learning anything.
(01:07):
I'm gonna have to hit the corner. Sir. What's the
oldest job ever? You know? Italy is one of the
oldest cultures. Yes, Italy, I'm behind that, barb barb. What's
the oldest culture that's still I mean, my dad would
tell you that China is the oldest current civilization.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We should say we have uh, the incredible Barb who
is here. We're told on facts.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Now, we were expressly told just seconds ago that she's
here on a.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Specifically Olympic Olympics. But that doesn't mean that we're not
going to put her on the spot for any old thing.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I think if you bring Barb to trivia at high
Tops on Tuesday, I think she whipped something out every
now and oh but no, I'm saying you're unstoppable with.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, you're really especially during an Olympics round, especially
during Olympics round.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But I bet Barb knows about film history, about pop
you know, just what what what else? Film pop culture?
What's the oldest civilization? Is it Mesopotamia? Business team a Syria, Mesopotamia.
That's but that's that's oldest? Uh no longer there. I
think it's Egypt and China are sort of the oldest
remaining bias. Well, well this is what my dad, the
(02:18):
Sumerian civilization looking in Ninja, Mesopotamia on day Iraq is wide.
They considered the world's oldest civilization. Well that's Jason, thank
you for that. Is that where Mesopotamia? I didn't. I
guess that just but but we're asking Barb. We asked Barb,
So what is Barb thinking? But I'm asking Barb? What
is the old what is the oldest current civilization? What's
(02:39):
the oldest current civilization? Barb? Imagine she comes down and
she's like Beverly Hills, and we have to reveal that
Barb don't know, doesn't bar bar Barb talent? Bar Barb
is a fraud. It's not Beverly Hills. It's Barb Barb.
That's it. That's a zip code. Honey. Well, well, Barber
(02:59):
is working away at this. We'll give you time to
think about it. Barb. Where were we saying, o oldest job,
oldest civilization Italy? Where in Milan? I think we're gonna
go back in history today in this episode episode four. Yeah,
and really narrativize the top moments of the Winter Olympics.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So in a way like this whole intro actually made
a lot of sense and feels pretty intense historic.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Absolutely. Yeah, well great, well great.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now do you just, off the top of your head
before we consult our sup boards, do you have any
Winter Olympic moments or let's just do this Winter sports
memories in general, let's stir your soul.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You Now, how deep do you want me to go?
Because I have memories of How deep do I want
you to go? Honey? Honey, China is the oldest continuous civilization.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
According to Barb, China is the oldest continuous civilization. Congrats,
thank you, you have done great things.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Thank you so much. Would you say that you are
the most famous Chinese? I sent out cast member. I
think I think it's it's between me and Phil Harmon. Great.
I think why did you leave the show? You know,
(04:23):
I was I was going to go to the I
had an inmitation to go to Milan. Oh that's good.
I'm happy. I'm not going by myself. Sorry, Lauren, Sorry Lauren.
He belongs to me. Now. Of course, it's all about ownership.
It's all about ownership. Now. I you asked me what
my my Winter Olympic memories are winter sports?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I just want to know, like, do you have anything
that jumps out at you that that really roused you
when it came to the Winter Olympics or winter sports
in general? Like, before we get into the nuts and bills,
I want to get personal.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yes, well, growing up in Montreal. Yes, was a sort
of a very Olympic place because the seventy six games,
I believe Barb confirm were there. Yes, she said immediately immediately, yes, Well,
the China thing took you a while.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So because she's the Olympics source, I mean like she
she's not necessarily all about ancient civilizations. Like if this
were a Jeopardy map and two categories were ancient civilizations
and the other one was Olympic trivia, Barb would be
eating up the Olympic trivia. But now we know not
to tag her in like you do in Jeopardy.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Like you do in Jeopardy. But Barb as Montreal Eber
hosted the Winter Olympics seventy six was a was it
was a summer year.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
No, wo said, that's interesting. So remember one I was like,
what's your memory? And then you said this that wasn't
a memory.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It No, I'm saying the Olympics loomed large in Montreal
because the Olympic Stadium, the Olympic the villain Calgary and Vancouver, Yes,
Calgary nineteen eighty eight, Vancouver twenty ten, which is a
plot point in heated rivalry. Yeah, oh yeah, two Winter
Games katakiel is shockingly low. It does, doesn't it does?
(06:03):
It does? Now? I the Olympics loomed large. Yes, so
we But then also it meant that you go to
the Olympic Stadium. There's a pool there that's in use,
there's ice ranks that are in use. I don't believe
I've skated on the ice rink, but you would. Just
skating and hockey, we're a big part of Canadian life,
(06:24):
especially as a child. Yeah. And so then when we
moved to the US, you know, the legend of Michelle
Kwan was a huge thing, especially amongst Asian people. And
then two thousand and two Salt Lake was devastating, of course, yes,
oh my god, what is it? What is it?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
It was two thousand and two Salt Lake when Sarah
Hughes won bar. Sarah Hughes win the gold medal and
women's figure skating. Yes, okay, so this transitions to my thing, please,
because you know how your civilization is Montreal, misation.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Long Island. That's one of the oldest civilizations. It's one
of those that is that is the first suburb is
actually that is the first Long Island was the first suburbs.
According to the Long Island Serial Killer documentary, Yes, Barb, Barb,
can we check on that anyway? Sarah Hughes is Long
Island Zone.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Wow, I'm Long Island Zone and so watching I remember her,
she was ranked like fourth or fifth like that they were.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Not checking for her, and then I remember.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
She gave the most joyous I think it was a
long program that I had ever seen, Barb. What was
the really famous routine that Sarah Hughes did that like
kind of solidified her gold medal?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Was it the long program or the short program? Oh
my god, I love that she knows. It's so funny
that that she was just introduced to us as someone
that we could use, and we're abusing her long program.
Thank you? Oh my god, she's incredible. You're amazing. And
what about Long Island is a suburb? Yeah? Was Long
Island the first?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Remember you gotta get back to us that that's that's
just a quick google long program?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
What about Long Island for suburbs?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Now talk about she was in fourth place after the
short program. This actually, I believe was a Michelle Kwan
year when it looked like pretty likely and this is
why you say Salt Lake was devastating.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yes, yeah it was, because that's so funny that that
that Long Island beat Asia.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
See, yeah, exactly, And this is our little damn battling today.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
This is right here, right right here on two guys,
five rings. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well so anyway, it's just interesting how all the themes
are coming together because Mariah Carry from Long Island, Sarah
Hughes from Long Island, a favorite memory of mine from Long.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Island, et cetera. History Sameria, Samiria.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Gay guys da Vinci davin She sorry, duh the duh.
Every time you think you are saying da Vinci, just remember.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Duh, didn't she. That's a little you can use.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
But anyway, I remember feeling still sad for Michelle Kwan
that even though my hometown girl Sata just came out
on top of the US took the gold medal.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You wanted to see Michelle Kwan win, of course, but
it was thrilling watching Sarah Sleigh. The name Levittown may
spring to mind when you think of the origins of
American suburbs, a symbol of post World War Two optimism
and domestic company. The Long Island development, constructed between nineteen
forty seven and fifty one is often credited as America's
first modern suburbs. Yep, really good? Have you always known that? No?
(09:28):
I learned this from, as I said, the Long Isron
Island Serial Killer. Oh right, exactly. Do you watch a
lot of scary dark content every now and then, especially
during the winter months. It's very pertinent to the show.
Oh yeah, yeah. So it's like it's sort of like
it makes you feel cozy a little bit aw Now, Barb,
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what was the song that Michelle skated to after she
lost the gold? But it was just a gorgeous sort
of she was dressed in a gold outfit and was
it fields of bar it was? It was that song
fields of gold, fields of gold? Was it beyond the
fields of gold? The fields of gold?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Was it fields of fields of gold?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I don't remember what Sarah hugheses I remet. The song
was absolutely rousing, you really song choice for this stuff.
It was crazy. It was fields gold saying yes, no, no, no,
that sounds right, and it was oh God, on the
fields of gold. And she didn't win gold, but she
was beyond the fields of gold. I would agree she
(10:34):
was beyond the fields of gold. And certainly you know what.
I hope she feels. Okay, I'm sure she does. She's
Michelle Kwan.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Well, I'll never forget. So that that Olympics that Sarah
Hughes did win, they just cut to the door.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Of no, you can't do that, you can't. It was really, really,
really tough. It was just like and I remember the
announcer was like, and.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Michelle Kwan behind closed doors tonight not earning any medal.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Or maybe she won the bronze. Hey, Barb, did Michelle
Kwan when the bronze that your first of La City?
Or was did she not meddle at all? I think
she medles. I think I seem to remember that she metal.
But this is why we have Barb here. She won
silver and bronze, said to bronze was not what she wanted.
Bronze AVI clearly. Otherwise she would have picked fields of
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bronze which doesn't even exist. She would have written the thing.
(11:51):
We haven't even gone to our top moments.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So we're here to discuss the top Winter Olympic moments
and listen to this name, Chloe kim Icon. Remember when
she redefined the half pipe in twenty eighteen. In twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Kung Chang and Beijing. Mm hmm, this is be very
speaking of Asia, I cannot wait to see her shred
in Europe because she's back. She might do a three
peet At just.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Seventeen years old, Chloe Kim arrived at the twenty eighteen
pyeong Chang Winter Olympics already turning heads in the snowboarding world.
In the half pipe final, Kim's first run was remarkable,
and she had already secured the gold medal even before
her final run.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
But she completed the last run anyway and raised the
bar even further, executing the realm with flawless amplitude, rotation
and style, improving her score by four point five points.
Her final run score was ninety eight point twenty five
out of one hundred.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Can you imagine your victory lap being better than anything
that came before it?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's Chloe Kim ninety eight point twenty five out of
one hundred. That's like getting a five on ap CALC.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's like getting a four thirty two MILEI My mile
time was a four thirty six. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So four years later in Beijing, Chloe Kim, who took
a couple of years off after her twenty eighteen win,
returned to the Olympic stage with the world watching to
see if she could defend her title. She delivered once again,
performing with precision, creativity, and confidence that belied her age.
Her back to back Olympic wals cemented her dominance in
the sport, inspiring a generation of young snowboarders and proving
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that women's snowboarding could reach new levels of athleticism and artistry.
And here's something else I want to say. I like
her as a blonde. I like her as a blonde,
I really do. I like her as a blonde with
a beanie.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Blonde beanie, it's giving. Oh I want you to do
a blonde beanie. No, no, no, that's not gonna look good,
But blonde beanie is giving. There's there's a character in
the Final Fantasy video game series, Barb can you can
you check on this named snow and he is blonde
with a beanie with the black beanie, much like Chloe
Kim in this photo that we're looking at now. She
(14:01):
could be the first snowboarder to win gold three consecutive
Olympic Games, but her event is not until day six.
Two people could beat her to that check yez ester
Ladeca Ladetska, I'm so sorry. In Austria's Anagasser who are
competing Day two and three. But she recently stated that
(14:22):
she suffered an injury while training at a half pipe
at Lax. She said an MRI I revealed a torn
laboram but the severity of the tear was on the
lower end, which will allow her to return to snowboarding
right before the Olympics. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Chloe said she's not very happy with the amount of
reps she'll get before the Olympics, but she was quoted
as saying, I've been doing this for so long, and
every season I met with a different set of challenges,
So I guess this is going to be the one
this year. But I'm so grateful that I will be
good to go for the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Can I ask you a question. You're an avid skier, Well,
how much have you snowboarded? Zero? So you haven't done
what Chloe Kim has and I never will done. You
don't think you'll ever do it. And this is I'm
going to say something and the communities, these respective communities
may vehemently disagree and push back. I have my finger
(15:14):
on my lip like an interviewer. Chinese American ski, Korean
American snowboard. What is Chloe Kim Korean American? She's Korean American,
She's a snowboarding This is my cultural observation at the
tender age of nine. I want to say, ten, are
there a ton of Korean Americans? That there's a lot
of Koreans in Denver, huge diaspora population of Koreans, more
(15:34):
Korean diaspora folks in Denver than there are Chinese, and
a lot of Vietnamese folks as well. In terms of
the observation that I kind of arrived at early on.
And obviously this has changed because this was what in
like two thousand and two. I'm like, oh, all the
Korean people snowboard and all the Chinese people ski, and.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Isn't snowboarding notably more difficult? Say so, Apparently every time
you snowboard your core feels crazy, much like berries, much
like Barri's when you take Kyle Kay my favorite trainer.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
We love you, Kyle, I love you Kyle. We enjoyed
seeing you for New Year's I want to move on.
We wish Chloe came the best Chloe we hope to
see you, but for now we're going to move on. Oh,
here we go. Barb is saying Aileen Goo who competes
for China Group in San Francisco. She's a freestyle skier
ski My theory holds true, yet another Chinese skier. Ten
(16:34):
eighties are three full rotations? Yes? Yeah, please?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I know all about ten eighties from the N sixty
four game ten eighty snowboard.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Nady Snowboarding. Is that the same thing as you're thinking
of SX extra? That was PlayStation two? This is you
beating my video game now?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Oh no, no, there was a time when actually I
think I could step to you as.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
A video game. I think. Sorry, No, I definitely can't. Yes,
you can. No, I don't know how to work the
controllers nowadays. You know this about me, you but you
can very You're very capable person.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You know there's going to be an all outsprint for
gold when it comes to what Jesse Diggins is.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Doing, because she could be the first. Yes, please you
go back to twenty eighteen. She stunted before the US
had never won an Olympic gold medal and cross country
skiing because the Nordics dominated as they have so many means.
They have the means to dominate. They have the legs,
they have the snow, they have the flat terrain. You
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just know Alexander Scar's guard skis Stellen. You know you
know Bill skis Bill Peter Peter sars Guard. There's Alexander
Scar's guard. I wasn't saying that he was in the family.
I think Peter is you know, maybe a h oh huh.
I hadn't even thought of him as Nordic. We are
generalizing a lot about different nations in this episode, and
(17:55):
Nordic noir is such a rich genre. The murder girl
with the dragon tattoo, Yes, yes, yes, that stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So Scars guards, Yes, I would agree, and I would say,
but I will say that Bill Scarsguard is hotter than
you think.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
No, he's very hot. I'm not saying he's not royal.
You real, you royal, you royal.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I wasn't saying hotter than you think, bo when I
was thinking hotter than the royal You thinks we were
used to seeing him as penny Wise.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He looks like a little bit of some people when
Da Vinci might like, uh huh, some people like penny
Wise are tracked sexually. Yes, I'm sure there's there's Hey,
there's there's people like that, do they?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Well, maybe you you're during the winter months, you're all
hold up in a dry corner.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Learning about the first suburbs.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Learning about the first suburbs. And you know, Bowen is
going to cook a wonderful dish to night. He's making
duck fried rice. These are just one of the many
like little things Bone gets up to in the winter
months and gonna have so much more time for why
did you leave?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
SNL? I thought we had Why did you leave? I
was invited to cover the Winter Olympics. Oh, that's a
wonderful thing. I'm happy I don't have to go by myself.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So the moment for Jesse Diggins came all the way
at the twenty eighteen Winter Olympics in Jungchan. Jesse Diggins
made history and a sport long dominated by Nordic countries.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
And you're saying that Diggins is back. Yes, she's back,
but she has announced that she is retiring after the
Milan Courtino Winter Olympics and the World Cup finals in
March twenty twenty six. Congrats, but Diggins is now forever
immortalized in the Annals of History, We're we're reading about
her accomplishments. So what happened at the Battle of the
Carmens at the nineteen eighty eight Calgary Olympics. Both these
(19:39):
girls chose Carmen.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, they both chose Bizet's Carmen for their final Olympic routine.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So that's just like, you know, that's just a little
did either and who won? Who? Barb? Who won? Barb?
Who won?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Katerina Katerina darn East Germany? Well, you know, god, East
Germany not spooky, there's some gorgeous art.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Wait, this is one of the great moments that I remember.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Remember Maria Nagasu, Yes, lands the triple axel in twenty eighteen.
The triple axle almost never gets landed in Olympic competition,
so this is huge from Maria Nagasu.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Ten eighty Yeah, yeah, is that essentially what that is? Right?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
A triple axle is a ten eighty? Hey, Barb, just
want to make sure that a ten eighty is a
triple axle, Barb? Or is it more? Oh, it's more.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's ten eighty is four nine sixty would be three,
you're right, so it's three sixty triple axles three point five,
but it's more than three. Yeah, so it's nine to
sixty plus one eighty, so it's ten eighty ten forty.
Look I never pretended to get a four on ap CALC.
That's right, ten forty. Triple axel is three and a
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half revolutions. So what's a quadruple axle four and a half? No? No,
three times three sixty is ten eighty. Three times three
sixty is ten eight ten eighty plus plus one eighty
is one one two six zero twelve sixty is a
quadruple axle. Wow as triple axle, which which Nagasu, I'm
(21:14):
getting so overwhelmed. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. We need
to know this stuff. You need to get together quad
axles four point five, which literally Ilia might do at
this Olympics. Ilia another Ilia.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
See now we might need him to change his name.
There's only one Ilia in culture, I know.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Well, there's room for there's room for two ilias. Big
moody white gay. Was he's a big booty white gay.
He's a big booty white gay, big booty white gay.
Not a small booty, not a not a not a
medium sized booty. The big booty White. Gay Nagassi was
controversially left off the twenty fourteen US Olympic team despite
(21:56):
finishing third. I hated that many thought her Olympic moment
had but no in the twenty eighteen Winter Olympics. Twenty
eighteen was a very very big year, controversial, controversial me
and Ryan Nagasu faced a moment that felt like both
personal redemption and a challenge to history. I don't too
love that well.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Speaking of triple you know that Sean White was the
first snowboarder to win three Olympic gold medals with his
come from behind wins in twenty eighteen in pyeong Chang.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Another peyong Chang moment, Yeah, another pyeong Chang sort of
had it going on. Peunchak was was gosh, this is
really when culture kind of felt good. This is back
when culture felt good pre pandemic, pre prey. But I'm
saying South Korea, North Korea marching, I've been the same
flag that was good, you know, Nagasu, Diggins. It's just
(23:00):
a lot of Sean White.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
We also can't forget about. I mean because because it's
Bowen and I doing this, we have to mention Nancy
Kerrigan and Tanya Harding sharing Olympic ice after Karrigan's return
from her attack at the US National six week earlier,
which you know Tanya was connected to anyway. That short
program from the nineteen ninety five program of the nineteen
(23:22):
ninety four Little Hell Games drew more than one hundred
and twenty six million viewers, making it the fourth largest
audience for any TV event and historic sports broadcast. You
want to sell soap, That's what this whole thing is
for soap selling commercials.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Oh my god. I can't even begin to unpack this.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I think our sponsors would agree, Barb. What is the
purpose of the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
The purpose of the Olympics. Yeah, but can you answer that, Barb?
How how would you answer that? Don't look it up?
I want I want you to write from the heart. Yeah,
and we will read your answer on the on thee.
This is more personal, Barb. So we we've not really
gotten to know you yet. We are very impressed with
your knowledge. Yeah, this must come from somewhere emotional.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I just want to say that before Barb says this.
She last said the quadruple actual is.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Four and a half revolutions Olympism is about the spirit
of the games. Olympism is about the spirit of the games,
and the spirit of the games is what you would
define as human triumph, human triumph, collective collective goals. Yes,
the idea that adversity strengthens one, strengthens one and many,
(24:32):
and the idea that each one teach one. Are you
ready bringing people together, bringing together unity?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
That's beautiful, Barb, she said, bringing people together dot dot
dot unity.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Barbara, you are a poet. Was amazing. Your command of
your your your economy of language is truly staggering.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I haven't seen mastery like this since Bawn Yang took
the ap calculus test in high school.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Now, don't you agree? Has she not convinced you that?
Don't you agree?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
What Olympic sport would dou a liipa win, Barb? And
then we're gonna say our top three moments in Windsor history.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
While Barb comes up with that answer, I want to
ask you if Barb's answer Olympus is about the spirit
of the games, bringing people together dot unity. Has she
convinced you that it's not to sell soap? Oh?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, I think I was just jaded earlier, but now
I'm emotional from what Barb said, and actually I see
the light.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
It's almost like I watched the film Miracle Oh, which
was another moment, and of course the Jamaican bobsad team
in nineteen eighty eight in Calgary, which was the inspiration
behind Cold Runnings. Barb says that how about excellence, Barb,
you are we might have to change the title of
this podcast. It's two guys, five rings and Barb and
(25:51):
Barb and one Barb.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I think Dua Lipa does would be really competitive for
the gold medal and excellence.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I saw her radical optimism tour.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I was thinking, it's the whole time to say it,
until now it's time to name our bronze, silver and
gold medals for Winter Olympic moments past.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I'm gonna say bronze is gonna go to Jamaican bobst
team in Calgary. Yes, just because it is so beautiful.
There's like for a country to have no winter sports tradition,
to then just have this beautiful underdog story and then
to inspire a beloved film that is peak Olympics culture
(26:32):
to me. And yet I'm still giving a bronze because
we did not give it get a chance to really
talk about it. But that's that's just something that ever,
that is monoculture.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, I mean I think that for me, my silver,
this is gonna be controversial. I think my silver and
know we're gonna say metal Olympic Winter moment is not here.
Mine is the French judge. You know, I never let
it go.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
The French have never God, the first time you talked
about the French judge on Lost Cultures O their podcasts,
I knew that this was going to be a lasting thing.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Everyone knows what I'm talking about when I say just
three simple words, the French judge, French judge. When there
was a doubles it was it was uh figure skating
doubles and the Canadian couple who.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Were amazing married. By the way, since divorced, Sad Bob.
Why did they get divorced? Can we find out why
they who filed and what was the reason. This is
the Canadian figure skating duo who was given a co
gold medal with the Russians after the French judge. Okay,
(27:43):
we have the French judge.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Marie Jamie Sala and David Pelatzier.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yes, why did they get divorced? Oh? I don't want
I don't want us to No, no, no, they would
not want us to have to look that up. No, yeah,
I know.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
While she's looking it up, I will say they were
my silver medal, and which is unfortunately what they were
given until they were given what they were supposed to
be gotten, gotten the gold. That French judge better not
show her face again, Miss.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Marie, Miss Marie Lagna, pronounce your name? What is the
gold medal winner for you? Blondekoe Kim blond Chloe Kim
is up there. No, I'm gonna say, I'm going to
say her Negosta. Yeah, that was amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
It was rousing to see her come from behind like
that and land that ta the ta.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
But the fact that she wasn't even in twenty fourteen
like that is what the Olympics were about.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
To me, I'm gonna go ahead and guess that Barb
is uncomfortable sharing I knogling. The divorce were never mind.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Well and they co parented well together.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The divorce was amicable and they co parented well together.
And isn't that the Olympic spirit? And here I was
thinking Barb would be uncomfortable airing their marital dirty laundry
out on.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
This huge podcast. That is the spirit of the games,
that is bringing people together, unity, co parenting. Can we
give a special gold medal on this episode too, Barb?
Can we do that? Yes, we are bar postcancer? Are
we pouncing her lasting? Sorry post cancer, you win the
speciable medal. You are invited back any time, Barb. You've
(29:15):
been such a valuable resource. Thank you for entertaining our
really frivolous ass. She says, I am so honored, Barb.
Whether or not you are in Italy, we will be
toasting to you from Afar, from Milan, we will be
facing Stanford Word and we will be toasting you. You
are a legend. Thank you so much for joining us.
That's immediately, she says. He used to have a lot
(29:36):
of power at NBC. No more, no more, No, Why
did you leave that power behind? When did you leave
the show? All right?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
All three between the lines at home, because that's it
for another episode of us.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
The two guys who speak on the Five Rings and
Barb and Barb, and we end every episode with the
same stong back Bob, Bob. If you want to put
(30:12):
history in the Barb
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