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May 13, 2023 127 mins
Skip Richter answers gardening questions while continuing Garden Line.
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KTRH Garden Line does not necessarily endorseany of the products or services advertised on
this program. Welcome to KTRH GardenLine with skip rictor just watching well,

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good Sunday morning, on a goodday for garden. You're listening on Sunday
morning. Oh my gosh, I'mgetting a day ahead of myself Saturday morning.
Let's let's not rush things. Theweekend goes fast enough as it is.
Oh, you know, we're supposedto have some rain later today,
but I think we got some timeto get a few things done in the
meantime. It's not supposed to hituntil later. So let's see. Let's

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see how much gardening we can getdone. We'd hate to lose, you
know, good opportunity on a nicetemperatures and just a good day to be
outside and we have to go inside. There's a number of things I want
to talk about today, but firstof all, I want to start off
give you our phone numbers so youcan give us a call. Seven one

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three, two one two fifty eightseventy four seven one three two one two
five eight seven four. I wasthinking about kind of the to do list
that I've got going out there inthe garden. And one of the things
that I've not gotten to and Ineed to is to put some color into

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my landscape, you know, spraying. There is just a riot of color
available the warm season, annual andperennial flowers and things, you know,
things along those lines. As Ivisit the garden centers, I'm just amazed
at how much color and how muchbeautiful not just plants, but containers and
plantings and things like that are arebeing offered right now. It's it's just

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it's a good thing on the daybefore Mother's Day to have so many opportunities
to buy mom some cool gifts.And we'll suggest a few as we go
through the program today. There's alot, you know, there's plants,
and I guess a rose would bea real common one because most people like
roses, right, almost all peoplelike roses. There's some really good opportunities

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to get a rose and give itto mom, get it maybe as an
extra part of the gift, togo out and plant it also, or
have some my planet for just tobe able to enjoy for years. The
nice thing about gifting plants that areperennial, shrubs, trees, perennial flowers,
those kinds of things. Is thateach year it's just a remembrance of

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the fact that someone gave them thatgift. It's a fond memory. A
fellow who was at the time Iknew him years ago in Conro, Texas
at a community garden, mister AldenColston. I remember he had a few
sayings that have stuck with me overthe years. But one of them was,
and this is not his quote,it's quoting somebody else, but he

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used to always say, flowers leavepart of their fragrance in the hand that
bestows them. And I think thatis a nice a nice thought. And
so you think about a rose.You buy a quality rose, one that's
going to be disease resistant, onethat's going to provide beautiful flowers and dependability
over time. And every year whenmom sees that rose, or whoever you

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give something like that too, theyremember where that came from. And it's
just a connection, a relational connectionthat goes long past a vase full of
cut flowers. As nice as avase full of cut flowers is. Well,
we're going to go to the phonesthis morning. The number is seven
to one, three, two one, two fifty eight seventy four. I
think I'm going to hold my commentsand just kind of scatter them out here

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through the morning. Let's start offthis morning going to League City and talking
to Skip. How are you well, I'm doing well today, wonderful.
Well, my question is about therose bush. It's got to leaves or

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the yellow and black spots on them, and I'm not quite sure what to
do about that. Yeah, yeah, Well, you know, you have
to spray preventively. If you've gota variety of rose or cultivar rose then
is prone to either pottery milder ora black spot. It's just a matter
of protectively spraying that foliage. Andso what I would recommend is, especially

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for the black spot, anytime wehave a little rain following it, go
out and spray the foliage because therain starts the process of the disease spores
infecting the leaf, and so youwhen you come right behind that with a
spray, you kind of shut theprocess down before it even gets started.
So I would I would recommend thatthere's a number of good of hung side

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sprays. I don't know if you'veever been out to make city feed,
but they're they're in your neck ofthe woods, and they carry quite a
few products and I think they candirect you to something that would work well
for the black spot and powdery mildewon your roses. That was wonderful.
We'll have a beautiful day and happyMother's Day. Yeah, thank you for
the call. Hoping you have awonderful weekend as well. Let's see,

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we're gonna head now out. Letme just make a comment on roses before
I grab the next call. Thatroses when it comes to diseases, you
know there we have a wide varietyof options. It used to be that
almost all roses were just prima donnas, and we're spraying them all the time,
it seemed like. And then rosebreeders. Two things happen. Number One,

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the antique roses, the old cemeterytypes of roses began to more and
more move into the market. UHTexas Agrilife Extension began their earth Kind Rose
program, which is selecting roses,testing them across the state for ease,
not just of disease resistance, butalso you plan them, you get them
started, and then you forget itand they take care of themselves, the

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earthkind roses. But now, breedersare more and more developing disease resistance.
There's a breeder in Germany, Cordells, for example. They when they do
their plant breeding, and you know, plant breeders are putting thousands of new
crosses out into a field to watchthem, and only a rare percentage is
going to ever make it as aname rose. But in their fields they

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don't spray, and so any rosesdisease prone automatically doesn't get selected. And
that's kind of an interesting new twist. And so as a result, we're
getting a lot more types of rosesthan we used to have that are just
dependable. Maybe they have a littlebit of this or that disease, but
not much, and I think that'sa good thing. Well, let's head

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out to Mission Valley and we're goingto talk to Jobby. Hello, Jobby,
Hello, Skip, I'm enjoying yourprogram. I have fire iNTS.
You know, they mound up thedirt. I was wondering if I can
use that dirt put it in potsand grows stuff in it. Absolutely you
can, as long as you're notbringing the fire inants with it. But

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no, I float them out.Yeah, I've already got a couple of
pots, and I'd run them outwith just water. Yeah, you know,
you put water in there, right. So so when you say the
dirt you're are you talking about thedirt in the pot that they were in,
or are you talking about soil fromyour yard that's come up above the
ground with the fire amount soil inthe yard. You know. So the

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only caveat on using it is,you know, if you have a very
heavy clay soil or something like that, we don't want to put too much
of that in a container usually.And you know the reason we have the
nice mixes for containers is that theydrain well. They hole they whole moisture,
but they drain well. And thehigh organic matter content and all that.
So a little bit mixed in,especially in a little bit larger container

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would be fine. But it's justjust moderation. Great. Thank you,
Thanks Skip all right, thank youfor the call. Appreciate that. Let's
see our phone number seven one threetwo seven two five eight seven four.
We'll be back with you right afterbreak. It's Western Sway and watches like

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Queret your boots. It's horse hairVords at Louis Lord. After they hold
the shoes well, good morning ona good Sunday morning. We're glad you're
listening to garden Line. I amyour host, Skip Rector, and we
are here to talk to you aboutwhatever you're interested in, your gardening questions,

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if you need time identified or diagnosed, or just some suggestions for planting
in a particular place. That's whywe're here. You know, before we
went to break, we were talking. I was visiting with Jobby about putting
soil from the yard that firens havemounted up adding that to containers, and
I mentioned to do it very muchso in moderation. And the reason is
our container mixes need to be perfect. And you think, well, plants

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grow in the soil, why can'twell, because we're trying to get more
out of a plant and a container. And think of it this way.
In the soil, that plant wouldhave roots way out everywhere beyond the plant,
I mean reaching way out, andthe roots are primarily up near the
surface where there's good oxygen out inthe soil. But in a container,
we can create a mix that hasexcellent oxygenation, good drainage, but yet

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holds moisture and holds nutrients. Andthat's exactly what the folks at Nitrofiles have
done with jungle land. If youhave a potted plant on the container,
maybe you're gonna put out a specialhibiscus or something like that to really beautify
your patio. Jungle Land provides thatgood drainage. It also has micro rhizal

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fungi in it, which is whichis really good a good idea because they
help the roots do what they doindoors. Jungle Land there's a version that
has root crystals, so if youdon't if you do forget to water for
a little while, it's a littlemore forgiving. It just is holding a
little extra moisture in those crystals themselves. So jungle Land by nitro Fist you're
going to find it everywhere that theirproducts are sold, which is pretty much

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everywhere. Lake Hardware and Engleton hasit under Gym's Hardware, Montgomery and a
task as Seed Hardware. Three exampleswhere you can get the jungle land.
Having success with plants does always beginwith the soil, whether it's a container
plant or whether it's a plant outin the yard. When you build the
soil, you sort of think ofit this way. You set the parameters

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for what that plant can or cannotbecome it's going to be well aerated,
or it's going to be poorly drainedand soggy and water logged at times,
and that has a huge effect onhow plants perform the nutrient levels they build.
Leave this sole to whole nutrients.Uh, there's just a lot that
we do. And when we putthe plant in, we want to put
it somewhere it's gonna thrive. Imean, really think about it that way.

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It'd be like bringing a penguin toTexas and turning it loose in the
backyard and going, hey, havefun, I got a yard pet.
Well not for long, not forlong, because that's not its environment.
That's you know, what it needsand everything is not there. But sometimes
we do that to our plants,and so that's what we're part of what
we're here for. We're trying tokind of correct that. Let's let's now

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head out to let's see Leo.Back Leo. If you called back in,
I'm here, all right. Didyou have some follow up on your
question or no, you were gonnaask me a different kind of question.
I am a happy mother. Sayto all the mothers out there, skip,
thank you for all you do.Quick question. I noticed that my

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mother was a big fan crape myrtles, and so they've now introduced a die
in series. Are you familiar withthat type of plant now or three?
I'm sorry, yesologize, yes,I am is developed by a guy named
doctor Whitcomb up in Oklahoma. Sohow can I plant that? So that
way, it's um deals with ourour, our clay. I live in

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a clay soil area environment, soI just wanted to make sure I can
plant it well. So I'm consideringbuying that, And so in honor of
mother's steak good. That's a goodidea. Well, cray myrtles are actually
they do pretty well in a claysoil, but the mechanical physical conditions of
the soil will determine how well theythrive. So if your clay is very

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compacted so there's not good airspace,good water infiltration, they're not going to
do as well, for example.And so what you want to do is
mix the best quality bed mix youcan up on top of the surface.
What I'll usually do is put alittle bit down and mix it in with
the surface, just to break thatsudden transition from wonderful bed mix to heavy

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dense clay, if indeed clay iswhat you have, and mix it a
little bit and then add more bedmix to create a bed. And so
things like the rose soil would bean excellent choice for a crape myrtle.
Pretty much everything that's fun. Yea, thank you, you're always great.
Thank you for the advice. Ireally appreciate it. And happy by the

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stakes everybody out there, thank you. I appreciate that. Go uh yeah,
the soil is really important and youknow it's so easy to make a
good soil. I mean, ifyou've lived in Houston for very long,
you know that when it rains,it pours, and there's times and we
go through a lot of rain andour plant roots have to have oxygen.

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They do. They are very fewplants that can survive with submerged roots for
extended periods of time. And thesail mix that's an easy fix. And
you know a lot of times youwill think, well, you know,
I don't want to spend money onthat. I'm in love with this giant
crape hubiscus flower, this beautiful crapeflower. Will just know that when you

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don't prepare the soil, what you'regoing to get out of that plant is
less than you dreamed you When youbuy a plant, whether it's a tomato
or a rose or whatever, inyour mind's eye, you picture the beauty
and the bounty. Right when youbuy a tomato, you imagine that slice
of summer tomato or whatever. Well, you're never gonna get that if you

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don't take care of your soil first. And it's just an easy, simple
thing, but it's hard to getexcited about the brown stuff. It's easy
to get excited about all the coloror all the bounty, but you gotta
take care of the brown stuff beforethe green stuff will thrive. Let's go
to the phones. We're gonna headto Westberry now and talk to Diane.
Oh hello Diane, good morning,Skip power you well, thank you.

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I have a question about barriers.I've had an engineer suggests that a way
to deal with some of our foundationissues is to put root barriers on our
existing older oak trees. So Iwant to know what your guidelines might be
for doing something like that. I'msorry, what? What? Who?
Who recommended this? A home engineer? Okay, he came out and took

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all the measurements, looked at drainage, all of that, yeah, and
instead of suggesting some foundation work whichhas already been done in the past,
that maybe putting some root barriers inwould would be of assistance. Well,
if you have if you have aquality root bearer installed by someone who knows
what they're doing, then a rootbarrier can pretty much prevent the roots from

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going across the barrier to where youdon't want them. Just know that when
it comes to foundation issues, it'snot so much the physical growth of the
route that is the problem, butit's the water uptake of the plant there
that's the problem. Because you know, our clay soils and the Gulf coast
have a lot of shrink swell potential, meaning when they get dry, they

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shrink and when they get wet theyswell. That's why you get those big
cracks in the summertime. But sowhat happens is the roots take all the
water away from that part of yourfoundation and so you get a lot of
movement and that therefore we get thefoundation foundation damage. So a barrier would
need to be far enough away toto deal with that that problem. And

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so I guess my only concern is, you know how much of the plant
roots system is going to be destroyedin this move, and if it's a
lot, then at the very leastI would wait and do it later in
the season when the demands are goingto go way down in the fall,
because if you take too much ofa plant's roots, a tree's roots out

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at one time and then it hitssummer and all the demands, you may
see some die back or other issueson the tree. Okay, Yeah,
that's my main concern obviously, isthe health of these great I've got a
beautiful red oak, for example,that would be a shame to lose that
for twenty five years. So you'renot thinking exactly, you know, how

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far away from the trunk of thetree the barrier needs to be. Yeah,
which is I'm sorry, go ahead, no, I cut in.
Which is they give a general guidelineof at least eight feet away from the
tree, and we're doing further awayfrom that, but it's probably still within
the canopy of the tree necessarily,because you know it's getting that close to

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the foundation of the house. Well, imagine you're looking at bird's eye view
down on the tree, and yousee where the trunk is, and you
see where the canopy is. Thecloser you bring a line in from the
edge, the more percentage of rootsyou lose. If you want all the
way the trunk you live half thehalf the roots loose the roots on the
tree. So it's just a percentagegame. But if you get out not
too far from the edge of thecanopy, that'll be okay, that's not

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going to be a significant amount ofdamage. All right, okay, all
right, I have good luck withthat, Diana. I appreciate, appreciate
that call, you know, talkingabout trees. Affordable Tree Service. Martin
and his wife Joe have long timebeen a supporter here of garden Line.
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six three Good morning, Good Sundaymorning for gardening Sunday. What is the

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deal with me? It Saturday andsunny. I think I'm thinking so much
about Mother's Day. I've got somebig, big plans for tomorrow, but
I just can't get Sunday out ofmy head. It is Saturday. Let's
slow the weekend down. Everybody calmdown. I knows I'm of your reaching
for the phone to remind me thatthis is the planet Earth that I'm on
and today is Saturday. You know. In the garden, there's a lot

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of things that we can be doingright now. But I want to talk
about a few things to keep inmind. If you've got a spring blooming
shrub now, that would be somethinglike an azalea, roo camelia, or
a rosebush that only blooms in thespring, like lady banks, for example.
A lot of the climbers they bloomin the spring, and then they
don't bloom much. Not all climbers, but a lot of them. They

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don't bloom after that until next spring. All of those spring only blooming roses
and another example is flowering quints andSperia, two more spring blooming plants.
They set their buds for next year'sbloom in the late summer and fall.
And so if we're going to haveto prune them, we need to do
it now or we're cutting away nextsprings bloom. And I said, if

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we have to prunt them, notall plants need to be pruned, but
if you have azalea with maybe awild hair branch going out to one direction
and you kind of want to balanceit out or something like that, any
kind of pruning, and these arethe spring only bloomers that I'm talking about,
go ahead and do that that pruningright now. And if you need
to snip a branch or two hereand there going into summer, that's okay.

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But just remember once we hit aboutmidsummer, let it take it from
there, and that way you havea much much better bloom. The speaking
of roses, I've got a oldgarden rose at the house and it is
it's blooming well, but it,like many of our roses, is going

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to go through flushes of bloom now. April is a huge, huge rose
bloom time. Roses still blooming inMay of course each month of the year.
But after a good flush of bloomson a plant, I would shear
them back just a little bit.You can hand prune it back to the
first compound leaf with five leaflets.I don't know if you've ever looked at
your roses, but follow the branchdown from a bloom and you'll see a

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leaf with three leaflets. And asyou go further down you'll see the first
beginning of five leaflet leaves. Andif you're going to hand prune and just
do a real hands on job likethat, cutting back to about the first
five leaflet, or if it's arose bush, a sheer back is just
fine. Just a little bit shearedback, give them a fertilizer, get
water that fertilizer in real well,and here comes new flush of growth.

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So why is that? Why isit important that we do something like that?
Well, roses bloom on the terminalthe end of a shoot. A
lot of plants are that way.If you have a bodleia, a butterfly
bush, if you have a salvia, most salvia's they're blooming at the end
of shoots. So what do wewant to do? Make a lot of

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end of shoots. Right, Sowhen you shear a plant back, which
what was one shoot now becomes twoor three as it regrows. That's how
a hedge works. That's why ahedge gets a denser the more we shear
it. So we're not creating ahedge with these plants. But when we
cut them back, we get amore compact, tidy plant, and we
get more terminals, and therefore wecan have more blooms. And I think

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blooms is what we're doing at allfor right now that it's warming up good,
we also need to be taking careof our turf us with a good
fertilization to carry us through summer.You know, I was talking about that
a moment ago, mentioning that youknow the Nelson's slow and easy gradually releases

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over time. Well, those arethe kinds of fertilizers that we want to
use in the summertime because we don'tneed a flush of growth over Fertilizing creates
shallow roots, and summer is atime for deep roots and resiliency, if
any other of all the year themost important time. And so we want
to fertilize gradually over time. Butbut make sure and do that. Now,

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if you've if your lawn suffered froma really significant die back this past
year during the heat and summer droughtthat we experienced last summer, it could
be you know, some diseases thatare in there thinning it out. The
most important thing you can do ismo water and fertilize correctly through this season.
And if you've got at least livingsprouts, you know, within a

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foot of each other, and youget that lawn healthy and grow and it'll
cover over by the end of theyear. If it's bigger than that,
i'd suggest patching in some grasp somesections aside to kind of fill it in
again. But again important time,adequate moisture, adequate nutrients, and mowing

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regularly to provide a good a gooddense law. And that's that's what you're
aiming for. And now that summertimeis coming long us, we're going to
be looking at planting some of ourheat tolerant vegetables and our heat tolerant flowers
if you haven't already. And I'lltalk about that more in just a moment

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when we come back from break,but I just want to mention that don't
delay if you're wanting to put outsome beautiful heat tolerant flowers. If you
want to get your your vegetable gardengoing so that it carries on through summer,
now is the time to do that. And there is no reason that
our vegetable gardens have to become,you know, a food desert during the

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summertime. We have all a lotof really good plants that we can grow
that keeps it productive and keeps providingus good, healthy, fresh produce as
we go in well, show wellgood Sunday morning, Saturday morning. You

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know what, Josh, I thinkyou need to make a sign and the
word Saturday is in letters one foothigh, and just cover up everything I
got in here with us so Ican remember. I'm still on my way
to Mother's Day. And by theway, today a great day to get
out there and do something. Buysomething for mom. Our garden centers are

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loaded with things. Maybe she's nota plant person, but go to the
gift shops, unbelievable gift shops.You know. Later today I'm going to
be out at Arburgate. I'll bethere from eleven thirty to one thirty out
at Arburgate making an appearance. AndBeverley is going to have peach Billini's available
as if you already didn't have enoughreason to go to Arburgate and I'll be

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there to answer your questions, andI hope you'll come out to see me.
But while you're out there, youneed to check out the gift shops.
It's unbelievable the amount of material,everything from yard art to really beautiful,
fine things for inside the home.You're gonna find that. And the
day before Mother's Day an important dayto get that. I'm gonna talk to

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Jim now up in Cyprus, Texas. How are you doing, Jim?
I'm fine, say thank you.How can we help? Yeah, I've
got some some week that's taken overmy backyard and it's real spiky, it's
with you can't walk like my animalscan't walk on it at all. And

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it's just just spreading. And Istopped in a my Ace hard Word yesterday
and they identified as something called maybecockle burr or sandburg okay, and I
bought some image spree. I justcheck and see if you think that will
take care of it. And when'sa good time to apply that. Well,
we need to know the correct identityof the weed because A cockle burr

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is a broad leaf weed, andI can pretty much guarantee you that's not
the weed you have in your lawn. Sandburr is what we grew up calling
grass burrs, and it's a grassplant, so that would be a different
control product. If I'm gonna youknow, as we get done on a
conversation, I want you to holdon. I'm gonna have Josh come on

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and get you some information where youcan send me a pretty close up,
well focused picture of the weed andI'll respond to you with a with a
better answer. I'd rather not justguess as to what the weed is right
now, Well, the image Ibought is for sandburg, or says on
the back. Okay, when wastalked to me, he mentioned cockbur but

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he saw me something for sandburg.Okay, did he see the weed or
did he just yes, okay,saw the weed. Okay, Well,
well we're going to believe him then, whoever he is. And you just
want to follow the label on theimage and spray it on those on those
weeds. I do not have animage label in front of me, so

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whether what it's labeled for and controland whatnot. And by the way,
there's more than one type of imageout there with very different ingredients. I
wish companies wouldn't do that. Butif it's a grass weed, then you
need a plant that's going to beable to take it out an image or
do a pretty good job on someof some of the grasses. But I

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do that today even though it's goingto rain later. I would not.
Uh. Yeah, I think thelabel will tell you like and give it
three hours before a rain at least, or it'll tell you something else.
All the compounds are different in thatregard, but I think I would hold
off and apply it when you don'thave a rain coming right up, or

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it has more time to sit there. Well, if I can't, let
me go ahead. Let me talkto your your your assistant there, and
I'll send the picture. All right, hang on, I'll put you on
hold and Josh, I'll pick youup. Yeah, you know, I
I always want to see the weedor be sure of identity of a weed,
because we could be you know,I could be wasting Gem's money sending

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him out and saying yeah, todo this or do that, or it
may not be effective the product forthe weed that we're dealing with, and
so I need check the image labelon that. Normally we put image down
for sedges. It's not the onlything it works on, but it's really
good on sedges in the in thelandscape, and that would include a nut

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what we call nutgrass is not agrass. Nutsedge is probably a better name
for it, but that's typically whatwe would use the old standard type of
image on. I was talking aboutMom's Day and the good things come in
tomorrow. Just take advantage of thistime and get something for your mom.
We have a we have so manyawesome nurseries and also garden centers. You

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know, the the the Ace Hardwaregroup. They're all over town. I'll
talk about them a little bit morelater, but you know, like if
you're not in the Porter area,you need to check out your Ace hardware
out there in the Porter area.You're gonna find and I'll mention them in
a moment. But there's a lotof Mother's Day gifts in our Ace hardware

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stores. Because Ace doesn't just stopwith a you know, a few what
we'd think of as hardware things paintand whatnot, plumbing. They have garden
centers and they have gifts centers too, that it just excellent. It's kind
of like a one stop shop.You get to everything that you need out
there. Anyway, you're listening toGarden Line, We're gonna take a little

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break here. I will be comingback in a moment. But in the
meantime, if you will call Joshat seven one three two one two five
eight seven four seven one three twoone two fifty eight seventy four, he'll
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interested in. Coming out of thebreak, I've got a lot more things

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I want to talk about too,So just hang on. We'll see you
in just a moment. KTRH GardenLine does not necessarily endorse any of the
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rictor just watch you were good morningday, on a good day, get

(32:07):
outside and get a little gardening done. I know, get a little rain
coming. That's okay, we're askingit to hold offs along, but it's
it's a good time to get outside. It's a good time to get outside
and shopping for mom too. AndI was talking earlier our garden centers,
our ace hardware stores, the wildBirds, unlimited, all kinds of good

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places to get some really cool thingsfor mom, like a bird feeder I
was talking about earlier. The hummingbirdfeeders are. There's so many beautiful ones
now, and just to be ableto look out and enjoy that. I
just think that's that's a cool andrelaxing thing. You're listening to garden Line.
I'm your host, Skip Richter andour phone number if you will write

(32:47):
this down seven one three two onetwo fifty eight seventy four seven one three
two one two k t r H. What was I talking about while ago?
I was in the middle of somethingthat I know it's very very interested
in and in sharing with you.I Oh, I was time about the

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vegetables for heat and the flowers forheat out in your vegetable garden. A
lot of our spring, well ourwinter vegetables are pretty much gone. Our
spring vegetables that things like tomatoes,they tend to get kind of unhappy when
it gets really hot. They don'tset as well. Cherries do better than

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slicers, but they don't set aswell when it gets hot. The same
thing is true with cucumbers and squash. Summer squash like yellow and crooked neat
and other things. We just don'thave as much success with them at that
time. But we can switch overOprah, the king of the summer garden.
Awesome, awesome option to plant itnow. Sweet potatoes. Sweet potatoes

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love the heat. And by theway, do you know you can eat
sweet potato greens as well as theunderground storage roots that we normally eat sweet
black eyed peas, that would becrowder peas. Also purple hole zipper cream
those are Southern peas and they lovethe heat. Malabar is a vine that
is a very summer tolerant vegetable.Amaranth is a good one for summer.

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Moloquia. Molocquia is another good summergreen. As long as you give these
plants adequate moisture, they will dowell in the summer. And they're not
going to go into summer with nosoil moisture and survive, right, but
you water them adequately. It's kindof like our lawns when when we water
it adequately, not too much,but adequately, it's able to take the

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heat and they just do amazingly,amazingly well. I'm going to continue on
with some heat tolerant flowers here ina moment. But right now we're going
to go to the phones by theway, the number seven one three two
one two five eight seven four.Let's head out to the cypress and let's
talk to Sandy. Good morning,Sandy, going um, I wanted to

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ask you about my okram. Iplanted four seedlings, I mean eight seedlings,
four sprouted at in four different littlesmall containers. I've had them in
the house for a little bit whenI first canted him, and then I
said, well, I'm sure Ishould put them outside. So for the
past two days I've had them outsideand it hasn't rained, so I've just

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been watering them myself outside. Butsince it's placed a thunderstorm and stuff,
should I bring the tray back inor should I just leave it out there?
Well? You can, you canleave it out there as long as
there's not a wind that's gonna blowyour little seedlings over or something that like
that. It would be fine.Sandy. What's the long term home of

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these okra? Are you gonna putthem in the garden soil or are you
gonna container in a container in alarger container. Okay, Well, if
you're gonna do that give them acontainer that has at least five gallons of
soil. You know probably pardon thisone is probably about twenty gallons. Oh

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that's perfect. Okrah will be veryhappy and that container. Yeah, And
I would do that as soon asyou can, because as long as they
stay in those cups, the rootsjust get you know, more wrapped up,
and the plant is going to geta little stunted if it stays in
there too long. And you know, you can see how big the plants
are. I can't, but justjust know that don't leave them too long

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because once they're up and growing,you can put them right out into their
final home. Well, these arejust planted four days ago. Oh okay,
I'm I may miss that. Well, yeah, they can stay like
that, but I'm just I'm justtelling you. Also, you could also
just could and put them into theend of the container and get a little
faster growth rate. But it's upto you either way. Oh okay,

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So with this rain, I canstill um pot them in my container and
that'd be okay, you could,Yeah, I would know since it was
four days ago, I'd give thema little more time, give them a
week maybe maybe okay, maybe twoeven but then get them out of there.
I've grow okra as transplants all thetime, but I don't. I

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prefer to direct seat at into whereit's going to grow. So in the
future, for example, in yoursituation, you could take that big twenty
gallon container and you could plant youreight okra plants in there and just plan
on weeding out the ones you don'twant. And yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, I did that the firsttime that I gave some to my
girlfriend and some to my sister,and then I noticed mine weren't thriving,

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and I the name wasn't keeping thebugs off as fast as it was coming
because it gets so hot, andso I ended up pointing those and I
did about twelve ten to twelve seatsin that big container already out there.

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But I just did that yesterday.Okay, So these I wanted, these
four that I have in my house, I want to protect guard it.
All right, fair enough, I'vegot both them, all right, Thank
you so much, Skip, Allright, thank you for the call,
and good luck with your Your Okrais one of my favorite plants in the

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summer garden. I just I reallyenjoy okra. And if you are from
the South. Okra is a staplepart of the Southern diet. It's a
summertime vegetable originated somewhere. There's adebate exactly where, but either of Africa
or over in Um let's see kindof toward India direction like that. Anyway,

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Okra is so tough and easy andeasy to grow. And if you
if you've tried okra and you foundit to be slimy, you didn't care
for the texture of it. Thereare ways to avoid that. Okra gets
slimy when when you get water onthe interior part, it releases that mucilage.
So what I do is I brushpods with olive oil, sprinkle a

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little sea salt on them, andwhen I'm out grilling burgers or grilling a
steak or chicken or whatever, Ijust throw it on there two minutes on
one side, flip it two minuteson the other side, and you're done,
and you've got an oak or that'snot gonna be slimmy. You can.
You can grow it a lot ofother or cook it a lot of
other ways too. Hey, we'regonna take a break right now. The
number to get on the air isseven, one, three, two,

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and two fifty eight seventy four.Man, if your head isn't bobbing or

(39:52):
your feet tappy, I would grabmy wrists and check my pulse. Just
make sure I'm so long that areyou love that thing you do? Gosh,
you know. I'm going to beout at arbour Gate today from eleven
thirty to one thirty, and Ihope you'll come out there and see me.
Bring a sample of a disease,a sample an insect problem, a
sample of a weed, or justsome photos on your phone we can take

(40:15):
a good look at. Just makesure they're in sharp focus, and we
will be glad to help direct youagain. Arburgate what a place for a
Mother's Day gift. You're going tofind unbelievable plants for Mother's Day gifts,
from house plants to outdoor plants.You're going to find indoor accessories that just

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beautify the home. You're going tofind outdoor blay that beautify the yard and
garden. Come out today to Arburgateeleven thirty to one thirty. Let's visit.
Always love to meet people that arelisteners to the show. I think
first thing we're going to do nowon the phones is go out and talk
to Bill in Conro. Hello,Bill, how are you please? Skipt?

(40:58):
Good morning? Good morning. Anotherquestion about fungicide. This one is
I put fungicide down on my grass, and I know fungicide doesn't work well
with compost top dressing because it killsall the good stuff in the compost.
At least that's what I understand.I could be wrong, but I put

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the pungicide down. How long doI have to wait before I put down
some compost top dressing. Well,you know, I'd give it probably a
week, a week or two.The fund at all fungicide you're going to
soak into the plant. They're gonnasome of them sit on the surface.
But if you were recommended a fungicidefor that lawn problem, it probably is

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a systemic that's going to move intothe plant, and so then you're not
so worried about any competition on theleaf surface or other things. In fact,
you may find that the top dressingadditionally helps with the problem you're talking
about. Okay, I always thoughtit was it was a long period of

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time. So that's that's a realbig helpful clarification for me. Yeah,
the fung side, the compost topdressing is not gonna destroy the fungicide on
the plant, especially with the systemicthat's moved in. Do you remember offhand
what product of what you were dealingwith on the fungicide. Um, yeah,

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I've got it right here. Itbegins with a peep thro Yeah,
okay, yeah, that just thatthat is not as systemic. I think
it will move into the tissues though, But I would I would do that
and then i'd give it a weekor two and then then put your top

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dressing on, watered in really welland just watch. You may have to
do another treatment later on. Someof these diseases are pretty persistent and difficult
to deal with. You're You're fortunateBill to be in the you're in the
Contra area. I don't know.Have you ever been out to Nature's Way
Resources? Oh? Yes, Iuse them, Yeah, just south of
town. They've got that leaf moldcompost that is the best for top dressing.

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And that's why I said you're fortunateto be out there, because they're
the originators of the leaf mold compost. All right, very good, very
good. Thanks. I know we'retalking about I'm talking about yesterday now,
but I'm talking about next Friday too. On they have a Fungal Friday sale
every Friday, ten percent off theirbad products and twenty percent off their bolt

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And so if you're doing a topdressing, Friday would be a great day
to visit Nature's Way and get thatdone because you save some money on it.
Okay, that's great, But whatabout the fung side begins with an
a as a large axy st Yeah, is that very similar. It's actually
more of a systemic moving into theplant and it works well it, you

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know, for takeall root rot.It is probably the best single fun decide
that you can use. Good toknow, good to know. So yeah,
I could put it down and thenwait a few weeks and then I
could do a top dressing. Yeah, that'd be just fine, no problem
at all. Right, Great,thanks a lot, Yeah, thank you,
Bill, appreciate the call. Yeah, it is the compost. Top

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dressing is best done with a qualityleaf mold compost. And that was you
know what we're talking about at Nature'sWay. But you know what, I'm
sitting here talking about products like thatat Nature's Way. Nature's Way has a
lot of native plants. They haveone of the largest varieties of native plant
selection in the Houston area. Theyhave a two acre garden center and nursery,

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fruit trees, native perennials. Theycarry house plants, seasonal vegetables,
and the Mother's Day sale out atNature's Way was wonderful. We passed that
buy now, but oh my gosh. They had all kinds of decorative pots
and things. But if you needbags of rose soil, bags of leaf
mold compost, you know they're goingto be able to provide it for you.

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But I would suggest you go outthere just to see the plants,
if nothing else at all, becauseyou will be surprised. In fact,
the first time I went and theyhad started their plants, and the second
time I went and I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe
how many native plants you guys have. That was really cool. Well,
you're listening to Gardenline and I'm yourhost, Skip Richter, and this is

(45:22):
a call in show. So hey, here is a number so you can
call in. It is seven onethree two one two fifty eight seventy four.
Seven one three two one two fiftyeight seventy four. Okay, I
was talking about heat tolerant vegetables amoment ago and now I would like to

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talk a little bit about heat tolerantflowers. In the spring, everything is
willing to bloom in the spring.We have a wide variety of colors and
hues and available to us. Andthen summer comes and it changes the plat
palette a little bit. Now,there's some things that bloom in the spring
all through summer, certainly, butthere are a lot of things that summer's

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kind of hard on them. Youknow, petunias. If you take good
care of them, you can carrypetunias on into summer. You need to
shear them a little bit and fertilizethem to get fresh new growth for more
blooms. But it's a little bitof a challenge. But look at the
roadsides, all the pretty pinks andblues and things. When summer comes,
they give way to the yellows andoranges, you know, of the composite

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types of flowers. But just somethoughts. Angelonia is my newest favorite summer
flower. We all know lantanas dowell. Periwinkles, madagascar perie winkles.
We call it vinca, but it'snot vinca Madagascar perie winkles, portelaca and
purslain, and those hanging baskets oras a ground cover look really good.

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Fan flowers also called scavola. It'sa blue flower, which is unusual.
In the summer, our blue bloomingoptions are greatly reduced, but scavola will
provide that firebush does well through thesummer. Certainly, Hibiscus, the perennial
hibiscus the tropical hibiscus cannas love thehot summer weather as long as it gets

(47:08):
a little bit of water. ButI like the phasian. It's also called
tropicana because the colors of the foliageare just amazing. There's also some cool
yellow and green striped cannas like Bengaltiger, but Tropicana is my favorite.
Blackfoot daisy, if you've got anice, well drained area, is another

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little tiny daisy flowers white. Ifyou have enough of them, you can
actually smell it. It's a honeyfragrance. And then Zenia's would be another
good one. But now's the timeto start transitioning over so that your summer
garden is just as beautiful and flooriferousas your spring garden was. Let's head
over to Alvin now and we're goingto talk to Craig. Good morning Craig,

(47:53):
Good morning Skip. I've got aquestion about a chilly pikeine. I've
had it for about five years,have not had much luck with it.
It's in a container probably five toseven gallons. I still haven't had much
of fruit off of it. Theonly thing is I was wondering, do

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we have male and female pepper plants? No? Okay, that's not well,
good sunlight providing it good full sunyes, well, I don't.
I don't know what to tell younext. How about the look of the

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plant? The green color is?How healthy? Does it look anything there?
Well, it's struggling to come backfrom the winter right now. I
was thinking about pruning it, bruningit back, and then maybe repotting it,
basically just changing all the soil outon. My other question is maybe
is that not a large enough container? Well, I guess that's possible.

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Your description of the container though fiveto seven gallons you ought to build,
but grow a pikein in that.You could put it in a larger container,
certainly, but you should be ableto get it to grow and something
that size. I don't know,I would, you know, consider the
nutrients, try to get good vigorand growth, but don't overdo the nitrogen
because you don't want to just pushit into total vegetative growth. But that

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chili pikin is a pretty generally,pretty easy you know. The birds eat
them and poop the seeds out,and they come up in the wild and
do just fine there. So webring them in take care of them nicely
like you are, and they're notcooperating. I don't I don't know what
to make of that. Okay,all right, all right, thank you

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so much. All right, Greig, thank you. I appreciate that call.
Yeah, chili pekins are they area very hot pepper. I remember
the first time I got a mouthfulof one. Ouch. The heat doesn't
last as long, but oh mygoodness, it is hot. Have you
ever had a chili pekin? No, I've had hatch green chili. That's

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a good pepperless tasting. It beginsin a little bitty things. They'll typically
put them in like a little jarwith vinegar on him, and then use
the vinegar as a seasoning in thefood. But I'm just not a big
pekin fan. I love pepper though, well. I love your phraseology vigoring
growth. That's what we're going for. That's right, that's what we're all

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about. Oh gosh, well,Nikki, I guess it's time for the
news. So here here's the batonwhist and now I was deep water somewhere
about the boost guy breeze and adultsin the world is a time. Don't
reach my chair, sunrise, thefire never been so good. Sunny morning.

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You are listening to Garden Line andyou're here to answer your gardening question.
Help you have a more bountiful gardenand a more beautiful landscape? Number
write this down seven one three,two one two five eight seven four give
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reminding you again that I'm going tobe out at Arbourgate Nursery today eleven thirty
to one thirty. If you've gotplant samples for identification, for diagnosis or
bugs, just put them in azip block bags, zip them up and
bring them to me. Let metake a look at them. I always
love meeting people that listen to theshow. If you've got photos on your
phone, by the way, that'sa great way for identity, getting things

(51:37):
identified, and also a great wayfor a diagnosis. Of some problem you
might have, or just hey,here's a picture of an area in my
yard. I need some color inthere. What do you think would work
well in that area? We cando all that. It's the day before
Mother's Day, and when you're atArbourgate you are gonna not have a problem
finding all kinds of things that yourmom would love. And as I mentioned

(52:00):
earlier, I was talking about youknow that when you plant a plant,
when you gift a plant that's aperennial, it's going to live year after
year. The memory of that giftlives on. I still can tell you
exactly who gave me plant. Evensomeone gave me a cutting of a plant
that I rooted myself, I cantell you who did that. And I

(52:22):
always remember that. And I thinkthat's why plants are a great gift,
a great gift. And when yougo to a quality garden center that knows
what they're talking about, they candirect you to things that are not going
to be a Prima Donna in thegarden that's got to be scorted with spray
every other day to keep it alive. They're going to be Texas tough plants,
and they're going to be beautiful plants, dependable plants. And that's why

(52:45):
I love to send people to ourindependent garden centers. You know, there's
a lot of places in town whereyou can buy plants, but you're not
going to find the educated staff.You are not. I've been into them.
I've asked questions of people in thosestores, and I can tell by
the look in their eyes when Iasked the question, I'm fixing to just

(53:08):
get a bunch of smoke blown atme because they don't know what they're talking
about. One time I was Iwas in a big box store and I
was looking at the pesticide aisle andas lady walked up and said, may
I help you? Yeah, Ijust had a question. I asked him
a question and their answer was justwrong. And this is these are chemicals

(53:30):
that people are putting out, andthey're being sent out without information on how
to use them and what to usethem for. And I said, well,
how long you've been working here?And they said, well, just
this my first week. What didyou used to do? I used to
cut hair and a beauty shop thatqualifies you to sell chemicals, right?
You know it? It is worthgoing to a place that can direct you

(53:54):
right, because number one, maybeyou don't need a spray and they can
tell you that, or if youneed a spray, which one works,
because you know, just because somethingsays weed killer doesn't mean it kills all
weeds at all stages of growth.In fact, it probably doesn't. But
you need to be directed right.And I know that I'm a broken record

(54:15):
on this, but our independent gardencenters not only are they the most inspiring
places to go to, but they'rethe places where you get set up for
success. And when you're going outand you buy this beautiful little plant,
maybe it's a rosebush, and youimagine just how beautiful and floriferous it's going

(54:36):
to be, and then you getat home and it doesn't do well because
they sold you a one that doesn'tdo well here. They didn't provide you
with the encouragement to get some soilto make that rose happy from day one.
You see what I'm saying. Yourmoney is hard earned and it needs
to be well spent, and independentgarden centers are the ones they can do

(54:58):
that kind of thing for you.I just I love, I love just
going to them to visit. Iwas checking out one the other day and
had a I was needing a containerto plant my to transplant one of my
house plants. It's gotten a littlebig for the container, so I was
going to bump it up to thenext size. And the biggest problem that
I had was trying to figure outwhich one, which one that gets uh

(55:22):
you know, traveling by the arbrigadelooking at their container selection and it's like,
oh my gosh, that is it'sjust all kinds of containers and that
you know, our independent garden centersare so good about that. They really
are good about putting quality products outthere so you can have that kind of
success. Well, you're listening togarden Line, and I'm your host,

(55:45):
Skip Richter, and we're going totake a break here in a second,
write down our number seven one threetwo one two five eight seven four.
By the way, give that numberto your neighbor who doesn't take care of
the yard. Maybe we can helpmake the neighborhood live more beautiful and drum

(56:19):
well, good Sunday morning on agood day for gardening. And apparently Linda
Ronstad as well. You are listeningto the garden Line. I'm your host,
Skip Rictor. Our number is sevenone three two, one two,
five eight seven four And let's seewe are going to head out to spring
and talk to mo. Good morning, MO, good morning. I want

(56:40):
to know what to kill sumac andpoison name it's mixed on my fence.
Uh so I if the plants aresmall, like the poison navy is coming
up from seeds because the birds poopthe seeds. There, you can you
can do a foliar spray with aproduct containing trichlope here, do you have
a pen or pencil handy? Allright? T R I C l O

(57:06):
P y R. Now if ifthey're bigger plants, you know maybe you
know those you mentioned? Okay,well you can cut them off at the
ground, just above the ground,and then immediately dab the Tricola peer product
right onto the cut wound. Justdab it right onto that cut surface and

(57:27):
it'll soak in. You don't cutthem one day and then go dab the
next. Just do it right away, and that's great. You know.
I know a lot of folks listeninghave like hackberries coming up in the fence
or tallows, trees and other things, and that cut cut I call it
a cut stump treatment. But thatworks really well. And I can get

(57:50):
that arbigate today. Yes, theydo have a triclopier out there. Absolutely,
and I hope you come out.I'm glad to hear you might be
coming out. Good. Yeah,I got tick as she sat there.
Yeah, they have a good selection. Thank you. Well, good luck
with that, and we can talkmore about it when you come out.
If you have any questions, wellyou too. Thank you. Now let's

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go out to Bellevue and talk toJerry. A good morning, Jerry,
thank you, good morning. Skip. Got a question. I'm getting started
slow or behind schedule on my yardright now. It's covered pretty much with
weeds and we're trying to pick themout and everything. So I'll put some
of that pre emergence barricade on it, okay, And I was wondering,

(58:37):
since I'm so far back in theschedule, how long do I Is there
any way I can speed it up, you know and be kind of caught
up by fall. Oh yeah,just you know, just continue to follow
it, like for example, maybeyou haven't fertilized as much as as you
should or whatever. You can stilldo it. You know, we'd rather
you do it a little sooner.But no, they nature it's nature.

(58:59):
It's flexible and we just we justpick it up and continue on for where
you are. If you've got exists, if you've got existing weeds, though,
you're going to have to have somethingthat kills existing weeds. The barricade
is a good pre emergent to preventthem from establishing, but once they're established,
switch over to something that kills existingweeds. Well, would you recommend,

(59:21):
right? I mean we're trying topull them up and spot the spot,
kill them with a herbicide, youknow, and pull them up that
kind of stuff, and it's prettyslow going. Yeah, I got you.
Well, there are a number ofproducts out there. I know there's
a there's a weed beater product,a weed beater ultra I like, but
on these broadleaf products now, andthey only work on broadleaf weeds. You

(59:45):
just want to get it done beforetemperatures are in the mid to upper eighties,
which we are. We are onthe verge of that now. You
kind of day by day. Somedays are warmer, some days aren't.
But don't delay anymore because in afew weeks from now, it's going to
be too hot to use the withoutdamaging your line. Okay, And it's
a weed beater. Yeah, there'sone called weed Beater Ultra. Uh that

(01:00:07):
weed Beater series. Just when youwhen you purchase it, go to one
of the quality nurseries, the gardencenters ace hardwarees that we recommend because they
can direct you. Because there's somethat aren't for Saint Augustine. Some products
they say it'll kill Saint Augustine.Just make sure they direct you to a

(01:00:28):
good quality product so you don't dodamage. Now, this is that just
to kill weeds or is that aweed and feed kind of thing? No,
it's it's just to kill weeds.I generally do a lot of weed
and feed. Talk on here.Well, I didn't think so, I
just want to be sure. Okay, So it's a it's a spot kind
of yes products. Okay, allright, and how long after go ahead,

(01:00:52):
I'll put this emergence down here?Do I have to wait any time
before I come back with the nitrofile spartal other No, non fertilize right
away. I'll just just know thatthat pre emergent needs to be watered in
a little bit to move into thesoul surface where it does its work.
But yeah, you can, youcan fertilize whenever you want to fertilize.

(01:01:14):
Okay, that's what I needed enough, all right, I appreciate it.
Enjoy the program. Thank you,Thank you, Jerry, I appreciate that.
Let's head out now before we haveto take another break, we're going
to talk to Mike and Lake Jackson. Mike, I think you have an
interesting question. Yes, I havea squirrel sitter stripping the bark off of

(01:01:34):
young the country and I didn't knowif that's harmful if the tree recovery.
Is this anything be concerned about.I have a question about the balls.
Yeah, we've got just a shorttime here, but if we need to,
we'll hang over through break. Squirrelsdo that, especially in the spring
when they're you know, they're teething, the young squirrels, and they go

(01:01:57):
up to where there's a little vand the pecan branch and they the bark
off and typically that branch will dieand you'll get a little we call them
a flag. But these you see, these little brown shoot branches out at
the around the canopy of the tree. We'd rather the squirrels didn't do that,
but we have no way of stoppingthem from doing that. So you
just this was this was going towork on most all of the branches because

(01:02:20):
it is a young tree and they'rejust I mean there's several feet of that
they pull out at a time,and yeah, yeah, that's that is
unfortunate. Hey, what was yourother question about neim? Well, I've
been using nemol on a citrus andI've noticed there's two types. There's a
hydrophobic and then there's like a firstpress kind of like alleyball, and one

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groups more expensive than the other,and the first press they're supposed to have
one of the chemical in it thatthe bugs that will kill the bugs that
try to eat it. That is, I've never heard you talk about nemol,
so I was kind of curious yourhouse them. I haven't seen the
difference in the two presses on kneemoil. That's kind of interesting. But

(01:03:07):
knemoil it works like an oil anddoes well. You know, if you'd
like to continue the discussion, we'reabout to go to break here, I'll
be happy to come back with youon it. But just a good quality
knemoil will coat insects and do whata summer oil would do. That would
be spider mites and apids and somescale insects, especially when they're crawler stage.

(01:03:30):
And it also is pretty good onpowdery milde to prevent power. Ohianna,
if you mind, I'll pull outa bottle so reach you. What's
on the label? Yeah, thanksa lot, I appreciate that. Okay,
Well you're listening to garden Line.We are putting another hour in the
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Garden Line with Skip rictor just watchhim as we're good Saturday morning. I
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(01:04:59):
and a good day to get outand get some gardening done. I
know there's clouds and we got somerainstorms coming through, but hey, that
just means it's even more pleasant towork out there. We're not made of
sugar. I mean, some ofyou may think you are, but we
are not going to melt in therain. Right. Well, it's a
good day. Hey, let's goback to talk to Mike and Lake Jackson.

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Mike, let's continue this nemoil discussion. I do not know about a
first pressed nemo. Now there's acold pressed cold press. That's direct term.
Oh coal press, okay, yeah, cold press nemoil. It just
means cold press processes just mean thatwhen they're squeezing the oil out of seeds,

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they make sure that keep the temperaturedown, don't let it get hot
and heat up, you know withsome of Yeah, the other they referred
to as a hydrophobic process, andapparently it takes some of the beneficial stuff
out of the knee boil. Idon't understand. I was reading it out
a lot and uh, okay,but apparently you know, I don't know

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that you can be a little bitmore research. Is it okay to use
that in the summertime to kind ofsupplement the insect sets for you know,
the white clothes and sort of thing. Yeah, So kneem oil is it's
an oil, and we have otheroils called summer ol. We call them
summer oils or sometimes well dorm Yeah, there's Dorman oil, which tends to

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be a heavier, more viscous.You used to have a lot more impurities
in it, but they're getting betterabout that now. But the summer oils
are more lightweight. So think ofthe difference. And this is a great
exaggeration, but just to understand thedifference between like a motor oil and an
oil that is just almost watery whenyou when you when you use it,
and the summer oils tend to betowards this second uh type of oil,

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and so nem oil is that kindof oil. But when you use oils
and the temperatures above ninety, yourisk the chance of burning the plants.
Some more sensitive than others, andso you just want to be careful.
Don't don't spray them out on aninety five degree day with the sun bacon
down on the leaves. That wouldbe a recipe for problems. And if

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you heard the sectical insecticidal soap,yes, yes, particular thoughts on the
ants. Yeah, okay, soinsecticidal soap. So I'm going to nerd
out just a little bit here,but I'll be brief. Soaps are basically
chains of fatty acids, and therecan be different links of chains. They're

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all different chemicals, but it's achain of a fatty acid. There's some
soaps that are herbicidal. They burnplant tissues, and that you can buy
a weed control soap that's herbicidal.Insecticidal soaps are designed to be the most
effective against insects, but the leastdamaging to your plants, the least phyto

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toxic to your plants, and insecticidalsoaps are a really good good thing to
do. Again, ninety five degreessun bacon down, I wouldn't use soaps
on them. But if you canget in real late in the day,
if you come out real early inthe day and spray a soap spray.
That's just fine. In any insectthat's small, soft bodied, like a
spider mite or an aphid, insecticidalsoap is going to work well. But

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you have to spray upward from underthe plant to coat the under surfaces of
the leaves, because that's where alot of the aphids and almost all the
spider mites are hiding. And itseems like a good luck I'm a citrus
that it suffered into freeze and allthe new leaves are coming out. I
don't seem to see all the spidermite or the miners in that strat thing.

(01:08:47):
Well they'll they'll be back, yeahright. They love new growth.
They don't like the old growth.But so the tender growth is where you're
going to find the leaf miner attacking. Okay, well, great, every
right, Well I appreciate your answerships. All right, Mike, I appreciate
your call. And good luck withthose squirrels. By the way, you

(01:09:09):
know you can eat squirrel meat,right didn't Some people are having a heart
attack right now. All right,thank you very much. Yeah. I
did not grow up eating squirrel butmy dad did. They would go out
and hunt to feed the family.In anyway. I think ballistic control measures

(01:09:30):
for squirrels are frowned upon in thecity in general. Oh gosh, let's
talk a little bit. I wasbeing going through some you know, some
different topics and things that I justfound of interest today. Leaf spots.
When it's rains, you're gonna getleaf spots that follow the rain. But
whether they're bacterial or fungal, rainmakes those diseases happy. And so when

(01:09:56):
you have diseases like that, youneed to deal with them. No,
powdery meal is a little different.Powdery mildew likes high humidity. If you
kept your leaf surface constantly wet,powdery mildew would not be a problem.
But it's the humidity which welcome toSoutheast X is right. And so with
the powdery mildew, we're definitely wantingto use preventative sprays, and in general

(01:10:20):
for diseases, preventative is the wayto go, because you can't bring a
dead spot on a leaf back tolife with a spray, So why not
spray before we get the dead spot? And that's preventative types of spraying.
And you know, powdery mildew,A lot of roses get it. Crape
myrtles. Get it rock rose,which is not a rose. It's an

(01:10:42):
hibiscus family called Povonia. You putit in shade and you get a lot
of powdery, mildew, squash andmelons if you're growing like let's say a
pumpkin, or the long term squashes, spaghett the winter squash, spaghetti squash,
acorn squash, butternut squash. Whatusually happens is the mildew and some
other diseases get the foliage, andwhen they do that, they take away

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the carbohydrate production. And that's whatthose fruit are all about, is stored
carbohydrates in there, and so weneed to protect that foliage. So I
would preventatively spray. Now there's alot of synthetic sprays. They're very effective
against powder and mildew. There arealso a couple of organics Potassium bicarbonate I

(01:11:27):
guess somewhat similar to baking soda,which is sodium bicarbonate, but we don't
need to be adding the sodium outthere. Potassium bicarbonate, and kneem oil
neem oil sprays. I remember whendoctor Larry Barnes at TEXA and m at
the Plant Clinic did a study ongerber daisies, and he found that knem
oil was about as effective as someof the systemic synthetic fungicides were. But

(01:11:49):
with all of those you have toreapply. So you get a rain and
it washes the potassium bicarbonate off theserver, you gotta respray it again.
But anyway, those are ways toavoid it, and by avoiding it,
you're keeping your foliage there. Whenthe foliage is what makes all the things
we want happen. I mean,if it was a let's say it's a

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a rose bush and you want flowers, or if it's a vegetable and you
want production, we got to havethe foliage to do that. And that
is also true for any other plant. Even the lawn is essentially the new
healthy growth is sustained by a healthyfoliage. Hey, you're listening to Garden
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Well, good morning, Joan,good morning. I have I think they're
called either wild garlic or wild onionsthat have kind of taken over a portion

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of my flower bed. And Iwas digging them up to just throwing them
away, of course, but someof the bulbs have the little tiny bulbs
and those things just fall apart,and I try and scoop them up and

(01:14:45):
get rid of those also. Butif they were another way I can kill
and then control those kinds of weeds. You know, Joan, you're you're
calling from Belair, and if youwill go in to Southwest Fertilizer is not
very far from you. They aregoing to have every kind of product and
they can direct you to the productsthey sell that are effective against that.

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It may be a two four Dtype product that you're putting out, but
you're going to be very careful withyour application of it because you've got desirable
plants nearby. That's the caveat thatI would say about that. But yes,
there are the products that will controlwild onions and wild garlic, which
are two different kinds of plants.You're doing the right thing digging the bulbs
out, I mean that is afirst step. But if you do need

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to do the spraying, then Ithink one of those kinds of products is
going to be the one that helpsyou. And I can tell you for
sure. The folks at Southwest Fertilizerare going to direct you too, and
their selection is the best in town. Okay, thank you, okay,
thank you very much. Well,let's see we are now going to head

(01:15:53):
out to League City and talk toJohn V. Hello John V. Good
morning skids. I don't know thespecies. It's three three purple dark purple
with in the center and then lightflowers. I've got one with my amorillas,
two amerllas in a pot and onein the beds. They're doing really

(01:16:15):
well. But do you know whatI should do about maintaining their abundancy?
Well, I need to. I'mnot following you on what plant that is.
Can you give me a little descriptionagain on it? Yes, sir,
it's three leaves that are dark purpleand centered with like a violet,
and then the flowers are like alight pinkish. I think you're talking about

(01:16:44):
an ax salus. There are dothe leaves sort of look like if you
had a four leaf clover, butthere's not four of them, right,
and they're in like a triangle shape. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's
that's Oxalis. There are some ornamentaltypes Vocsalus. There is xalas weeds and
they throw their seeds all over theplace, the little pods. If you

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have oxalis and it's a weed andyou want to get rid of it,
you need to get it out ofthere before it has low seeds. If
you have the good type, youknow, the kinds that like you're describing,
that are beautiful, they can bedivided. You can divide those clumps
and replant them and spread them out, or you can just go buy some
others. And there's several types.One is all purple, deep purple,

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and this is gorgeous, wonderful.Thank y'all. Y'all have a wonderful day,
and happy Mother's Day. Thank you, John, you appreciate that call.
Yeah, Axalis is a very interestingplant. It's persistent. You know,
if people that have gardens and ornurseries where they're growing the plants,

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it'll be on the floor of thegreenhouse, and when it pops those pods,
it'll throw seeds up into the potson top the benches. I mean,
it's a it's a persistent little bookerand kind of a kind of a
pain, you know, to dealwith anyway. But I love I love
the ornamental types. The only thingabout the ornamentals, I just want to

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warn you thous oxalis and purple heart, which is another wonderful plant. Plant
them where you want them, becausethey're kind of hard to get rid of
after you plant them. They theydon't always respond to products. But they
also it's kind of hard to notleave some in the ground when you try

(01:18:34):
to dig them up. No reasonnot to use them. I mean,
they're still good, but it's justa little bit of a challenge with those
talking about some of the weed killerproducts you are mentioning earlier, different kinds
and stuff. If it's a broadleaf weed killer that kills an existing weed,

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it is best to get those appliedbefore temperatures rise above the mid eighties.
Certainly, if they're up to ninety, a lot of those are going
to really stress your lawn and itpredisposes the lawn to other problems. Maybe
the lawn kind of is unhappy fora while and eventually comes back, but
then you find a disease like takeall root rot moves in because you've weakened

(01:19:15):
the host, and now take allthe opportunists can move in and do that.
So I'm mentioning this because we're kindof at the end of that window
to have good effect without damage tothe lawn. There are other pride There's
one called Celsius that actually will letyou go up to about ninety ninety two
without getting the damage. But whywait, go ahead and get things taken

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care of, because once those broadleafs enter their reproductive stage and they start
blooming and setting seeds, products arenot going to be very effective on them
anyway. Well, let's so let'shead out to golf golf Gate and talk
to Kennedy. Good morning, Kenneymorning, How are we doing well?
Thank you? Good good. I'vegot some questions. I've been trying to

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grow for a couple of years.A few things. Last year it was
too hot, and the year beforeit rained too much. But I have
questions on route stop or rod stopfor the for calcium. Yeah, yes,
the foliar sprays. If you startthem, you know, as the
plant is just blooming, setting settingthe little fruit and periodically put those on.

(01:20:26):
They can help circumvent that lack ofcalcium problems that causes blossom undrot.
But you have to get on anddo those. The other thing to keep
in mind is widely fluctuating soil conditionsreally predisposed of the plant towards blossom undrot,
so try to keep your soul moistureeven okay um, I guess I

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have another question too, Would youuse EPs and salts with potasimine magnesium?
So EPs and salts is magnesium sulfateand uh it is good to use if
you don't have enough magnesium in thesoil. A lot of times you'll read
things and it says when you planttomatoes, put in epps and salt,

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when you plant roses, put inups and salt. Well, that's true
if you need magnesium, but ifyour soil already has plenty of magnesium,
then the apps and salt is nothelping and use too much and it can
actually hurt. So I don't haveany problem with using it, but I
would use it if it's needed,and a soil test would tell you that.
Or if you look at the leavesof your plants that you would have

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put the ups and salts on,and there's like a green Christmas tree in
the middle of the leaf and it'slight green to yellow outside of that,
that's a magnesium deficiency symptom. Thelittle green Christmas tree inside the leaf centered
on the mainium thing. So Iwouldn't just say use ups and salt because
you're planting a tomato. I woulduse it if it's needed. Okay,

(01:21:56):
I've got microlime Ocean Harbors four three. It does apply every two to four
weekles on the soil. Leaves wouldget better, so it's better to apply
to the soil. Plants can takeup some nutrients through their leaves, but
the efficiency of leaf uptake is notas good. Plants were designed to take

(01:22:16):
up nutrients through their roots, andso while fully your feeding can be helpful,
especially to deal with certain nutrient deficiencies, you need to do it early
in the day. You need tospray upward from underneath the plant while the
little openings in the leaves called stonemates are open to get the most in
the plant that you can. Butin general I would soil apply. Okay.

(01:22:40):
I've also got some microlife eight foursix, and apply that in every
three to four months. So that'sonly like once during the growing season for
vegetables. Yeah, for a vegetablecrop, that would be once. But
you want to build your soil upand that does it. Hey, Kennedyan,
I have to go to break.We're about to go to news here,
but I appreciate your call. You'relistening to garden line seven one three

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now out to a Tasca cita andtalk to Thomas. Well, good morning,
Thomas, Good morning. How areyou? I'm well, thank you?
Okay. Three questions. One thenitrogen. I'm using the microL life
maximum boom three eighth three. I'mgetting great results from it, but I'm
also getting a tremendous amount of foliage. I mean, more than I would

(01:23:48):
expect. Well, what did thenumbers you just said? Three eight three
Okay, yeah, that's the microlife maxie by. So I worry about
that. I mean, you know, I guess if you overapply something,
you're going to get more vigorous vegetativegrowth than you want. But used at

(01:24:10):
the proper rate, you should getsome vigor. And remember, when you
have a blooming plant, some vigoris necessary because you've got to keep growing
good new foliage to help provide thecarbs needed to set the buds for those
blooms. So foliage growth and bloomscan go together. In fact, they
do go together. So I don'tknow, okay, whether you know,
I don't know how much you're puttingout, but just don't overdo it.

(01:24:33):
But it's good I'm doing. Istarted. I started in spring with one
ounce of gallon, just from thebeginning en April on, starting like every
two two and a half weeks,four ounces to a gallon. Okay,
well, only you can judge yourgrowth. I can't. I can't see
the play. No, no,I understand it. Yeah, okay,

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next question. I just refinished,rebuilding my walk. God, and I
want some things to the hang aroundfor a while, some perennials, and
I've got some plants here. Iknow they grow bigger. I want to
know if the handle pruning. I'mbobina, the butterfly ginger and night blooming
jasmine. I know those grow prettytall. Yeah, what was the middle

(01:25:15):
butterfly? What the butterfly ginger?Oh, butterfly ginger. Well, the
butterfly ginger can take that more sunthan most gingers, but it still does
best with some late day shade tomid day shade. What can be in
a bright all day shade and dojust fine, But just be careful that
in a rock garden in that locationit's not getting too much. Maybe put

(01:25:36):
it on full sun. Yeah,I don't know, you can give it
a try. I think you're gonnasee some ragged looking leaves and maybe if
you got another spot it's a littlebright shade, I think i'd move it
over there. The others will dojust fine. The I'm of verbina,
as you said, does get large, and so you're gonna need to do

(01:25:56):
some prunting on it to keep itin a smaller size if that, If
that's what you want, it edhandle being pruned and kept a two feet
no, no, no, Imean I've never tried it, but this
is a plant that wants to betwelve feet, you know, and so
okay, I would not expect thatyou're gonna like what you get now.

(01:26:17):
It does bloom on new growth,so you know, as you shear and
get shoots, you should get blooms. I don't know, that's a good
question. That's Thomas, that's astumper. But I don't think it's going
to do well with that. I'dlove to try it though, now that
you mentioned it, Just see whatwould happen if you just really pruned that
thing back a lot. I wishthey say say that again, they're gonna

(01:26:43):
try one and see, and it'sin my front yard. But it'll let
you said, if you don't killplants, you're not learning. That's it.
Absolutely, there's a spirit. Well, I would you give it a
shot if you want. I guessI should never say never, but you
just you want to be careful thatyou don't um take all the foliage off
each time you're trying to prune itto keep it down that low. I

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think two feet If that works foryou, will you call me back?
I would like to know that.I will see I've lined over them.
They're doing my punting more like aBonsi type of things. So I'm really
careful and just do small and youknow, trying to shape it all the
time as it's growing. Yeah,good idea. Well, it sounds like

(01:27:26):
you're an adventurous gardener, so Ido wish you well. Right, Okay,
so Lantana um Mexican Heather, Hey, Tom, I'm gonna have to
take a break if you want tohang on through the break. I'll pick
you back up after break. You'relistening to garden Line seven one three two
one two five eight seven four.Well, good Sunday morning. I'm sorry.

(01:28:12):
I was dancing around the studio there. I had to get back to
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And for all these years, sinceback in the days of Dewy Compton,
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(01:28:38):
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(01:28:59):
to head out out to a taskcaseda Hello Thomas, I think in the
middle of a big conversation. Right, um my rock garden it gets full
sun east west. I want toput some bushes in there. Well,
I'm gonna I'm gonna try the Almabovina and see what happens here. But
I need something with some other colors, some rids or whatever, something bright.

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Is this an area that you canirrigate or is that kind of on
nature? Oh? No, it'sirrigated. It's actually a TERRISTI three three
steps in the rock garden, okay, And I've got my sprinkle system there,
so I control and it's excellent soilthat I put in. I've got
six inches of quality soil. Well, when I think about red blooms and

(01:29:45):
the full sun, I think aboutroses. First of all, there's there's
a lot of great roses that youcould put in, but they take work.
Uh you know what, if youget you a shrub rose, it's
not gonna take much work. Youcan leave a shrub or is on print.
I share mine back periodically just toget more blooms on them. But
anyway, that that would be oneone option that comes to mind. I'm

(01:30:09):
trying to think. The red colorhas kind of throwing me. My brain
isn't clicking on all cylinders here tojust spit out the name of a plant.
Perhaps one of our listeners has thereforethat they would want to share with
us. But you know, ina rock garden, are you looking for
a more of a western garden kindof look, arid garden kind of look

(01:30:30):
or because then you would have thingslike oh gosh, the I'll think of
it in just a moment. Mybrain just went't blank on that one.
But anyway, what kind of lookare you trying to get? Well,
it's it's rustic I've had for years. I've had land tana on one level

(01:30:51):
and Mexican heather on another level.Okay, and all they look really nice
whenever, really full bloom and trimnicely, and I want to keep that
look. But I'm just getting tiredof the land. Will they die anyway
from this frost? Okay? WouldI would consider some salvia's. There are
some red blooming salvias and others.Salvia is always a good, dependable plant.

(01:31:14):
I would probably look at salvia Greggy. I where they it's called cherry
sage because the originals were all red. They have other commas now, but
I think I would try that.Hey, Thomas, I've enjoyed the visit.
Thank you. Gonna have to moveon. We're running out of time.
I appreciate it. Thank you,at a time. Thank you,
sir. Let's head to the heightsand talk to Brenda. Hello, Brenda,
Hi there, how are you.I'm good? How are you doing

(01:31:38):
good? Thank you? Listen.I bought some rosemary and some basil.
And how do I prepare the soilto plant both of those herbs in a
pot, maybe an eight or teninch pot. And what do I put
at the bottom of the container sothat it can drain? You know,

(01:32:00):
I don't don't put anything at thebottom of the container. I can go
into it. I don't have timeto day to go into it. Maybe
I'll do that tomorrow's show. Butthat doesn't that stuff doesn't help drainage.
To just use a quality potting sawmix. And you go into a place
like you're you're close to b Cannons, for example, they're going to have
blends that are just designed for containergrowing. If it's a big enough container,

(01:32:26):
I just often would use rose soil. But we have a lot of
other blends that will do well.And then when wherever you go shop at
a good independent garden center, they'regoing to show you the things that they
carry that fit that very well.But you pick two great plants, rosemary,
got some drought tolerance that is reallyreally nice, and then the basil

(01:32:50):
is an easy one when you havegood sunlight. Okay, Well, one
other question, though, Do Inot need some sand mixed into that.
I've gone online and kind of lookedaround a little bit, and no,
if you get a good quality mix, you don't need Dad's sand to it.
No. Okay, h well,thank you very much. I appreciate

(01:33:12):
it. Thank you very much forthe call. I am going to now
vernon. We're gonna give a quickwe have just a matter of seconds left.
But you're trying to get rid ofsome po poison ivy. Yes,
okay, growing, and it's growingin my hedge. Okay, what you
need to do. If you spraysomething on the poison ivy leaves, you're

(01:33:32):
gonna hurt your heads. So godown where it's coming from, cut it
off and treat that that little stemat the bottom of the fresh cut.
Treat it with a product containing triclopiert r I c l O p y
r. I'm sorry, I'm sortCan you repeat that from me slowly again?

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Yes, t r I c lO p y r tric pier that's
the ingredient. You're gonna find itin a lot of products. You know,
you're up in the Northwest house scenario. So if you go to plant
for all seasons, I go toArborgade. If you go to one of
one of the ace hardwares, like, for example, the cypress area that
you're going to find products with triclopier, they'll steer your steer you right,

(01:34:16):
Okay, we are. We areout of time today, Susan in Baydown,
I've support unfortunately could not get toyour call today. Will you call
back tomorrow? I would be happy. Oh, I'm sorry, you got
the next hour. We can hangon. I'm gonna hold you on through
break and we'll come to you rightwhen we come back. Our phone number

(01:34:36):
seven one three two one two fiveeight seven four seven one three two one
two. Ktr H give us acall. KATRH Garden Line does not necessarily

(01:35:03):
endorse any of the products or servicesadvertised on this program. Welcome to KTRH
Garden Line with Skip Rictord. Justwatching a good Saturday morning on a good

(01:35:31):
day for guarding. Yes, Iknow it's cloudy. I know I can
get some rain showers here and there, but it's still a good day to
get out and get some stuff donein the garden. We are going to
now head out to Baytown and talkto Susan. Susan, thanks for hanging
around. Colin Skip, thank youfor taking my call. How can we
help um? I'm helping my friendwith her along. She's eighty six years

(01:35:57):
old. Her son sold rye grassin the winter and she had Saint Augustine.
Then he put Scott's turf builder onit about three weeks ago. Okay,
the rye grass is certainly healthy,but it did not kill the weeds.
So now what can we do tokill the weeds without hurting them on?

(01:36:19):
Do you know offhand if the weedsare grassy type weeds or broad leaf
type weeds broad leafs when I'm seeing, Yeah, you need to use a
post emergent weed killer product, andthere are a number of them out there
by you know, all the differentmanufacturers of those kinds of products I mentioned
earlier, the weed beater, ultraconcentrate. That's just one example. That's

(01:36:42):
a bond product that is out therethat they will do a good job,
but they need to do it soonbecause once the temperature is up in the
mid to upper eighties, then wecan start to get some damage to the
Saint Augustine, and you definitely don'tneed that when you're trying to bring the
lawn back and it's already not thatgreat, right, So get that,
get that done. If you lookat the weather, you're gonna see the

(01:37:04):
days where it's a little bit cooler, go ahead and put it out on
one of those days. Uh.And it's a spray, I would put
it out as a spray. Youcan direct spray individual weeds or if it's
solid weeds all over the lawn,you can spray the whole area. Okay,
all right, Well, thank youvery much. Hey, and thank

(01:37:26):
you for helping that person out withtheir lawn. Sounds like that's a good
colleart. I'm proud to do it. Well, thank you. Have a
good week you two. Thank you, Susan. Speaking of the weeds and
things, when when we're dealing withthe weeds in our lawn, you need
to just keep in mind that theyare different kinds of weeds, grassing broadly

(01:37:47):
same product, don't go both.Yeah, the option of doing a pre
emergent pre emergent like a barricade productI was talking about earlier by nitrifiles that
will prevent the seeds from coming in. And then there's the post emergence that
kill the existing weeds. And withour Saint Augustine, which is most of
the lawns are on here. Whenyou use some of these post emergents and

(01:38:08):
it's getting hot, you really weakenthe plant and set it back. So
don't delay. It's always better tokill a weed when it's younger than to
wait until it gets older, becauseat some point when it becomes reproductive,
meaning blooming and setting seeds, you'regonna you're not gonna have any effect to
speak of. Or maybe it's toolate, there's already seeds on the plant.

(01:38:30):
But you can keep your lawn ingood shape by just taking care of
it like that. If if youare listening and is the first time to
hear Garden Line, welcome, We'reglad you're here. We'll hope you'll tell
your friends and family about Garden Line. If you've been listening for years,
then you know this is a strangenew host that's on the show. But

(01:38:54):
we are carrying on the tradition thatbegan back with the Dewey Compton all the
way up through Randy lemon and justa really I guess I get to stand
on the shoulders of giants in termsof people that were there were forerunners that
created a really, really excellent showfor this community. I want to go

(01:39:14):
out to sugar Land now. Andby the way, our phone number seven
one three two one two fifty eightseventy four, we're gonna talk to Don.
Good morning, Don. Hey,Skip, appreciate letting me talk to
you, and I appreciate all thecalls you're able to get in during your
show. I've got a little raisedgarden with tomato plants in it, and

(01:39:40):
I got these little green caterpillars.I finally found a couple of them,
but they're kind of devastating all theleaves and even now and into the small
church tomatoes. What can I puton there that wouldn't be toxic for me?
You could use a BT product,a product containing BT that's the ingredient,

(01:40:01):
and the BT products will kill thecaterpillars best. When the caterpillars are
young, they only last about aday or two in the environment, so
you may have to reapply because youwouldn't get them all or maybe one hatches
out of an egg the next dayafter you spray, so BT would be

(01:40:23):
probably the simplest solution for that.This serves one brand that in case somebody
didn't know what it is, Ohgosh, if you go to a good
supplier, they're gonna know what itis. And there's there are so many
brands. BT stands for it's thename of a bacteria, Bacillus thuringiens.

(01:40:48):
But everybody, don't don't go toa big box store spect then to know.
But you know you're out. You'reout in the sugar Land area.
So you've got enchanted forest down outin that area. You got Plantation Hardware
and Richmond M and D Supply inRichmond, those are ACE hardware stores.
I think you're you're just gonna it'sgonna be real easy. They're gonna direct

(01:41:10):
you right to it because I promiseall of those folks CARRYBT. And this
stuff in't toxic at all. No, No, it's it's organic. But
it's a disease that just affects caterpillars. So if you had a beetle or
a grasshopper or a snail or slugeating those leaves, it wouldn't affect them.
If there's a ladybug on the leaf. It's not going to affect it's

(01:41:31):
not gonna hurt the dog and cat. It's a caterpillar disease, specific disease
that you're spraying on those foliage.Yeah, got it. Thank you so
much. All right, don thankyou. I appreciate that call. Our
phone numbers seven one three, twoone two five eight seven four seven one
three two one two fifty eight seventyfour. I've been visiting about a lot

(01:41:56):
of different things going on at thistime of the year and in the summer.
And one of the challenges, andI've had a number of different emails
about this one, but one ofthe challenges in to have color is shady
areas. You know, in thesun, we get the carbs on the
made by the leaves that produce bloomseasy. When you get into shade,
it's a little more difficult. Butwe have plants that will do well in

(01:42:20):
a shady area, and examples wouldbe wishbone flower also called Taurinia. Taurinia
would do well in a shady area. We've got let's see a persian shield
that's a foliage color purple, foliagecolor purple, silvery. If it's a
bright shade, you get good purplecoloration in there and it would do well.

(01:42:43):
It's another good choice that you cantry. Uh, there is let's
see what's some other examples. Achicken gizzard plant, there's impatience, there's
colladiums, lots of good things forthat area, Johnny, I see out
there in Pasadena. We're going tocatch you right after break. For those
of you that you'll like to callseven one, three, two and two

(01:43:03):
fifty eight seventy four school Soldiers musicality, Josh is continuing our tradition of who
knows what we're going to play next? Right all over the board, from

(01:43:25):
country to pop, you name it. We like to stretch the musical world
a bit. Let's head out toPasadena now and we're gonna talk to Johnny.
Hello, Johnny, Hey, howare you doing today? I'm well,
thanks. So I've got a flowerbed in the backyard. That's it's
pretty pretty heavy with mulch, andit's got plants and trees and sorts of

(01:43:48):
different sorts of items. But thenutgrass I cannot get rid of. It
keeps coming through the mulch and Ipick it out all the time. But
as quick as I pick it out, there's new sprouts coming out. Yea,
And I wanted something I could getrid of that nut grass that's coming
to the moltraduct killing nut plants ormy trees. Okay, well, they're
a product call Image is one thatyou can use. Image is very effective.

(01:44:12):
There are there's another one that isbetter. Are really designed for the
flower beds And I'm trying, Ithink though the name is escaping me right
now of it. The thing youwant to remember about nuts edge is you
want to spray it once it getsthree to five leaves. Don't let it
sit there because if you, forexample, in the spring, when it

(01:44:35):
comes up, if you have onenuts edge plant, by the time we
get to today to May, ithas already made eight daughter plants, and
so you have eight times the problemyou did in the spring. So with
nuts edge, you never let itgrow because it's getting a lot worse.
When you do. It's better toeven just break it off and pull it

(01:44:57):
up and get that sunlight off theyou know, don't let it have sunlight
and have to regrow. That doesn'tget rid of it, but at least
there you're slowing down its reproduction.Uh, You're you're out in the down
in the Pasadena area. I thinkof you. You probably from a moss
nursery down there are one of theACE Hardware stores. We've got a number
number of ACE Hardware stores down inthat area that are gonna be able to,

(01:45:19):
uh, you know, supply youwith those kinds of products that you
need for nuts edge. But theproduct does need to be specifically for nuts
edge, and image is an exampleof that. Okay, I appreciate that,
Thank you very much. All right, appreciate that call. Thank you.
I haven't managed that was the otherone. I was trying to think
of image and manage. Let's headout to Sugarland. Now, we're going

(01:45:41):
to cross town down to southwest sugarinto Sugarland area and talk to Denise.
Hello, Denise, Yes, goodmorning, skit, good morning. My
problem. My problem is I haveprobably three dozen Agapanthus plants, most of
we're put in right after well twoyears ago, after our big freeze.
I cannot get them to bloom again. I cannot. There's like one or

(01:46:05):
two that bloom otherwise. Any suggestionson that. It could be a number
of things. Agapanthus likes to bein a semi shady area, but in
too much shade, it's not goingto have the energy to bloom well.
So maybe the plant came in ithad the energy initially, but now it's
not struggling in any way. Youknow, droughts and things like dry soil,

(01:46:29):
things like that, we'll mess upwith the blooming cycle. Over fertilizing
with nitrogen, that's another one youprobably want to avoid. That tends to
push plants and more vegetative and lesssettling down and fertilizing a little nitrogen very
important essential. Too much is nota good thing. And so one of
those things is going on there withyour agapanthus. And I can't tell you

(01:46:54):
for sure which one, but you'refamiliar with the setting. You may have
an idea what maybe more are likely? Are you there? Yes, I'm
here. They're on a store tothe west side, so they're getting afternoon
sun now. Otherwise it's semi shade. They've what can I tell you?

(01:47:15):
Is there anything? I don't fertilizethem. I'm not pouring nitrogen on them.
Is there any kind of supplement?Do you think the plants are very
healthy? I mean, it's notlike they're struggling. They look great.
I just can't get them to bloom. Is there any what about a bulb
food? Would I do that?Or no? No? I think what

(01:47:36):
I would do along the lines ofwhat you're asking. I would probably get
one of the products that's made justfor annual flower plants, you know,
like the color Star for example.That would just be one example, but
it's something that's got a little moreof the phosphorus. It certainly need a
little nitrogen potassium, but a littlemore of the phosphorus in there. You

(01:47:58):
might try that, start using thaton them and see if that kind of
kicks them into gear to do alittle bit better. But I think that
would be the next thing. Well, one of those kinds of Well,
it's frustrating we drive around our neighborhoodand people who don't take care of their
lawns don't have agapanthus and they're bloomingmine art. So is there any hope

(01:48:21):
to get them to bloom them?Yeah? Well I think there is.
I think what we're saying would wouldhelp on that. You need to dig
up your agapanthus, take them fora ride around the neighborhood and say,
now I'm gonna take you back andplant you. But if you don't look
like this in a week, I'mcoming back with some spray and you're out
it. Maybe that'll scare an.If I do have color Star, I

(01:48:44):
use it. If I start usingthat. Is there any hope for the
year? Are we done? Therean option? Do you think they might
bloom if we Yeah, I wouldn'tgive up hope. I think there's a
chance. I believe there's a chance. So we just need to see what's
going on with them. You know, for a plant to bloom, it
has to have enough light to makecarbohydrates to set the blooms, and it

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has to have the growing condition thatit needs, and it needs the nutrient
package that is required to set thebloom. So we've talked about the nutrient
package. You can't change the sunlightunless you go up and tremble limb on
a tree or something or move theplantation. Yeah, I think here's just

(01:49:26):
need a good talking to. That'sthat's oh well, I need to I'll
go do that. Today's skip,Thank you very much, and I'll get
some pillar star out here. Ifthat works, called back, I'd like
I'd like to hear that. Allright, let's go to Baytown and we're
going to talk to Misty now Helloa misty. Hey y'all. Hope everybody's

(01:49:49):
having a good morning. I'm havinga great more. Hope you are.
That's good I am. I'm callingtoday's because essentially email two weeks ago about
this possible sport on my flower boos. Okay, I'm a yeah, I
missed that. Yes, you sentit to my show my heart address,

(01:50:12):
right, I will, sir,I will go back and I will find
it after the show here and Iwill get you an answer to that.
I somehow missed it. I haven'tseen that one, so okay, go
ahead. Sorry, I think you'regoing yesterday, Yes, about the real
roses that come out. And thenI have a couple more that I think

(01:50:36):
or sports as well. So I'mreally excited about this. Uh you know
what I've gone in and I've foundit. Um so this the ones in
your picture are pretty rad or isthat like one is normal and one is
a sport picture of the red.Yes, the one of them has teens

(01:51:00):
at the very center and the restof its read. Oh, I see
that could be a sport. Theonly other thing that I could think I've
missed he is that um as arose bloom ages it color off usually changes
in some way, and the onlything would be if they were not the

(01:51:23):
same age. You know, numberof days since the blooms opened. Uh,
that's about it. But I'm havingtrouble picking out the difference in those
in those photos, I think Isee what you're talking about, the pinkish
pedals. I'm sorry. Go ahead. The email that I sent like two
weeks ago have the more defined whitein them because they start out white.

(01:51:48):
Mum. I have a little troublefinding that and on the air, probably
not cana able to do that.I will take a look at it,
and if you want to hang on, when we get past this break,
we can continue talking about it,or I can just talk about what I
see when I find your email andget back to that. Okay, you

(01:52:08):
can do that, That's fine,Okay, Yeah, I don't want to
everybody in the world to wait onme trying to find an email. And
one day and one day he killedthe show. But Missy hang on,
Oh gosh, and Nikki Nicky islaughing at me in the studio that I

(01:52:30):
can so relate to that. I'llbe right with you. Let me just
check my Emi dog just scrolling realquick. Just hang with me gripping radio.
I need to go fill my coffeecup. Y'all hang out. I'll
be right back, I promise.Oh gosh. Yeah. Well, this
is garden Line, and we tryto keep it exciting and interesting. Seven
one three, two, one twofive eight seven four. Give me a

(01:52:54):
call seven three, two and twofifty eight seventy four. This is our
last hour for today. By theway, we're here on Saturdays and Sundays
six am to ten am. Sotell your neighbors, tell your friends to
give us a call or at leastlistening on the show. Hopefully there'll be
some good information that helps them havea beautiful lawn and bountiful garden. Man,

(01:53:16):
I've been everywheremen across the deserts,I breathe them, Mountain a man,
I've been everywhere. I've been Arena, Chicago, Fargo, Minnesota,
Buffalo. All right, good Sundayor Saturday morning. I'm trying to make
it Sunday, oh day today,because Sunday's Mother's Day and that's a special

(01:53:40):
day. But it is Saturday.We are welcoming you here to Garden Line.
I'm your host, Skip Richter,and our phone number. Write this
down seven one three two, one, two, five, eight seven four.
We are going to start off bygoing to West Houston and talking to
Paul. Hello, Paul, Hiare you doing. I'm well, thank
you. Hey. So y'all hadjust talked about qualities, feed and garden.

(01:54:04):
Yeah, I'm actually on my wayto them right now. Also Ken
that owns that place. Um Kenis also a member of the Bonds Eye
Society and every other month he hostsa um A deal out at his place
on Saturday morning. So I'm inthe Bondsaye Society team UM and you can

(01:54:24):
go out there and he helps people. Different people come out there that are
you know, they're Bonds Eye greatpeople and and help us beginner guys,
you know, learn how to doit. So there's something else that they
do out there. I mean they'rethey're just great people, can good guys,
it is. And they'll sell youbons Eye too if you want to
buy one. So well, howexactly how can we help today? Paul?

(01:54:45):
So, I have an oak treethat is it's probably at least seventy
five years old. I know that, Um I cannot put my arms around
it. And it has started puttingup, started about two years ago,
started putting up shoots from the roofsnow I have and and quite a few

(01:55:06):
um that kind of makes my grasslook ugly. And I have done some
research on it. I've read thatit says that that's the DNA of the
tree. But everything that I've readsaid that if it's going to do that,
it's going to do that early inits life cycle. And like I

(01:55:26):
say, this has never happened.It just started happening about two years ago.
And I don't know if there's somethingI'm doing wrong with watering it or
feeding it or okay, yeah,something to deal well. What you fraud
is basically true. The oaks havedifferent gene pools that they come out of.
If it's a like along the southernGulf Coast, those tend to be

(01:55:49):
single tree type of oaks. Asyou get into the hill country of Texas,
you see oaka moths where there's manytrunks coming out of the ground in
the same place. The thing Ithink that's happened with yours, and this
is my best shot at it,is I believe something has has affected the
roots there. When you put ina flower bed around a tree, you
often see a lot of new shootscoming off the roots that you wouldn't have

(01:56:12):
had before. When you rote hoteilor do something. You know that that
injures a route, you tend toget a lot more of those as well.
So, but the only solution tothat would be to either put a
ground cover around it that you couldjust you know, as um over the
top of the groundcover, m overthe little ceilings coming up, or a
really heavy duty landscape fabric weighted downand that that could cut down on that.

(01:56:34):
But then you're not gonna be ableto grow anything in that spot unless
it's a vinding groundcover coming in fromthe sides, right, Okay, Well,
you know, I just I'll justdeal with it, Okay, I
have to do Yeah. I mean, there is a big azalia area all
around it, but it's been theresince we moved in right thirty years ago,

(01:56:57):
So it's nothing that I put in. It's just it's always and I
haven't touched the roots since we've beenthere. But well, if you if
you eliminate that, I'm not surewhy they're suddenly just starting to pop up
then right now, that is alittle bit unusual, but anyway, it's
it is what it is, andso your options are just to do some
of the things I mentioned, orto if you do cut them out,

(01:57:20):
try to go down and cut themmore where they attached to the route,
because when you just mow them off, it just rebranches from the base and
you get two shirts. Yeah yeah, and become spikes that you can't walk
over. Baret oh Man, Nokidding, Hey, Paul, thank you.
I appreciate that call very much,and good luck with that situation.

(01:57:43):
We're gonna go now to Texas City. Danny, we got about a minute.
How can we help? Hey mornto skip and Nikki got white power
recepts. Its all of them crookedneck, straight neck squash. Okay,
it rubs off with your finger,yeah, but it's spreading from one plant
to the next. One time tostop it. Okay, powdery mill do,

(01:58:03):
that's what it is, and itcan be controlled with a foliar spray
of kneeme oil. There are alsosome fungicides that will work on powdery mill
do. So if if that's ifthat's what you're dealing with, uh,
then I would consider either a syntheticfungicide or something like kneem oil as being

(01:58:25):
probably two of your best bets.Okay, one last question, what's the
general fertilizer for all the vegetable plants? Oh, gosh, a lot of
things will work. I often justuse lawn fertilizer on most of my vegetables.
But I've been running. Yeah,n uh yeah, yeah, you

(01:58:49):
can uh, you know pretty much. The lawn fertilizers we talk about,
I often use them a vegetable garden. Now, you can buy a mix
just for vegetables, but you know, we we package these mix is based
on what a plant generally mostly wants, but it doesn't account for what's already
in the soil. So, youknow, it could be that a vegetable

(01:59:09):
food isn't the best food for yourvegetables because of what's already in your soil.
But in general, you can dependon those and go with it.
Hey, if you got some followup, hang on, I'll talk to
you after break. But I'm gonnahave to take break right now. Danny
our phone number seven one three twoone two fifty eight seventy four. All

(01:59:41):
right, quick quiz question. Canyou name three monkeys? I'm talking about
human monkeys singing with monkeys. I'mnot talking about like monkeys in the in
the wild. Yeah, if youcan i'd like to know. Hey,
we're gonna head out to spring andwe're gonna talk to Andrew. Hello Andrew,
Hey, how are you doing?I'm well, thank you. I

(02:00:03):
got a question. So my frontyard, I had a mostly Saint Augustine
yard. I used to credit atfive inches as real, thick, full,
beautiful, and then this last winterwe just had bermuda started taking over,
so I started cutting it short.And now Saint Augustine is trying to

(02:00:26):
make a comeback, and I actuallylike the bermuda better. Okay, what
kind I do to get rid ofthat? Saint Augustine? Andrew? Do
you think this is a turf typebermuda? Like, is it coming from
another bermuda lawn or what? Ihave no idea. I just know that
whenever they it's kind of a newBill twenty nineteen, and so whenever they
did the saw it it was amixed palette. Ah. Okay, well

(02:00:48):
that then the chances are it's aturf type bermuda because the turf farm grows
one and then the other one.But I just had to ask that because
just standard old bermudas are not necessarilythe best for a lawn, Like if
you want to bermuda lawn. I'dprobably tell you to purchase a good semi
dwarf type of bermuda that that woulddo best for you. But assuming that

(02:01:10):
this bermuda is a decent type,what you want to do is you want
to mow low, and you wantto mow often. If you let the
grass get real tall, Saint Augustinehas enough advantage to survive in the bermuda.
If your areas are too shady,it's going to be hard to get
rid of the Saint Augustine because thebermuda can't take that shade as much.

(02:01:30):
But if you mow low and mowoften, that's the way we have a
beautiful bermuda lawn. And you know, you can also just grab Saint Augustine
runners and kind of rip them up, so it's not too easy to have.
Yeah, yeah, you can dosome of that, but mo low
more often. I think that's goingto be your best bet, assuming that
it's a good full sun location.All right, I appreciate it in the

(02:01:54):
crib grass. What's the best wayto get rid of that? The best
way is to not have it,and that's by using arricade as a pre
emergent you put it down, youwatered in. The crabgrass is never able
to sprout and establish a weed.Once you have crabgrass, if it's in
a lawn, there's not something thatkills a grass in a grass in that

(02:02:15):
sense, you can't kill cry grasswithout killing your lawn. And so there
I would just mow again more regularly, mow low, and the crab grass
is gonna get choked out eventually bya healthy lawn. Now, if your
lawn is struggling and you've got spotswhere sunlight hits the soil, you're gonna
have weeds like crab grass that popup. So work on mow, water,

(02:02:38):
fertilized those three key elements, dothem right and increase that density and
crab grass is not going to beas much of a problem. But a
pre emerge is always a good way. It's going to give you know,
sixty days or so of protection againstgrass crabgrass germination. Perfect. All right,
thank you, all right, Andrew, thank you for the call.

(02:03:00):
I appreciate that call. Let's seea little bit of time here, if
we can get a quick call inseven one three two one two fifty eight
seventy four seven one three two one, two, five, eight seventy four.
I want to remind you that afterthe show today, which is really
soon, I'm going to be headingout to Arbigate. I'll get out there
about eleven thirty and I'll be thereto help. I'll be there and we'll

(02:03:20):
pass one thirty, but officially toone thirty. This is the day before
Mother's Day. Come out and theywill direct you to a plethora of wonderful
Mother's Day gifts, from plants tobling to indoor decorations. They've got it.
Come see me. Let's see somesamples of plants or bugs or diseases.

(02:03:43):
Put them in a ziplock bag.If you've got your phone camera going
and you can take a picture ofsome things up close and sharp focus and
sharp focus. I'd be happy tolook at those and see if we can
identify, if we can diagnose,or if we can make some suggestions for
plants free area. But I'd loveto meet you. I love to get
to visit with and talk to thelisteners of the show. So come out

(02:04:08):
Arburgate today. We'll be out thereand it is a wonderland of cool things.
And you know I say this allthe time about Independent Garden centers.
But they've got people that know whatthey're doing. You know. It's they're
not making guesses. They understand growingin Houston. They understand which plants do

(02:04:30):
well and don't do well. SoI hope to see out at Arburgate.
We're gonna go the phones now,we've got time for one more. We're
gonna talk to George. How areyou doing? George doing pretty good.
Hey. Look, I'm working onthe yard over here in Baytown and it's
covered up with bermuda grass and ithas a little bit of Saint Augustine mixed
in, and I was thinking abouttrying that liquid actrazine to mark that formu

(02:04:53):
to down. I don't know.I wouldn't do that. I'm not a
big fan of that. Just wouldn'tdo it. You know, there's there's
not a great way to get bermudaout of Saint Augustine other than turn it
into a very shady area, whichgives Saint Augustine the edge. I think
if you, yeah, I thinkyou're gonna have to get rid of all

(02:05:14):
of it. And what I woulddo is spray a general weed killer to
kill everything, and then I wouldwait and give it a couple of weeks
because you're going to see some reesprouting because you never get it all the
first time. Hit it again,hit it again, with that, with
that spray. Just be patient andthen bring your Saint Augustine in. Try
to get all the dead material offthe surface, by the way, so

(02:05:35):
that your your new side sit.I said, bring your Saint Augustine.
You want Bermuda, No, youwant Saint Augustine. Bring the us In
Augustine in and put it where itgets good side to soil contact. You
need good contact between those two sothe roots can move from one to the
other readily. I understand. Yeah, then I'll do it that way.

(02:05:57):
Then all right, Sorry to bethe bearer of bad news, but we
just don't have the miracle product thatwill be that selected yet. I guess
some way someday they will. We'llfigure that out. Well, you've been
listening to the garden Line. Weare here to answer your gardening questions here
every Saturday from six am to ten, every Sunday from six am to ten.

(02:06:19):
Give us call tomorrow. We'd loveto visit with you about what's going
on in your lawn and in yourlandscape. In the meantime, come out
to our arbigate today. I'll bethere eleven thirty to one thirty and I
can't wait to meet you and tosee how we can help you with some
of your gardening questions. Thank youfor being the listener. Tell your friends
and neighbors about it. By theway, if you miss a show,
you can listen to the podcast tocatch up on something that you might have

(02:06:43):
missed. Also, if you haven'tfollowed us on Facebook, please do that
our Facebook page garden Line Facebook page. We keep it busy with a lot
of good information. And so Ithink that we are going to put this
show in the cans. We'll seeyou tomorrow
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