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Rob Parker and TJ Houshmandzadeh get into Nick Saban's comments on the NIL and why Saban may be a hypocrite.

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Speaker 3 (01:03):
T J houshman Zada in for Chris Bussar.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
TJ.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
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Speaker 1 (01:17):
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Speaker 2 (02:06):
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that oil.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, you need more than that? All right, All good,
All right, TJ. Let's go here. College football, No surprise,
Nick Saban retired. There's gonna be a lot of other
older coaches. I'm predicting that Tom Mizzo is gonna step
down eventually in college basketball at Michigan because these old

(02:37):
time coaches.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Don't like what's going on.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
They don't like the compensation that these players are getting.
They don't like the idea that they don't have control
over over them from the standpoint with the transfer portal
and I l money, you know, and all this other stuff.
And now you know, Nick Saban's making a tour going
around do we have sound Patrick?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
No?

Speaker 3 (03:00):
You not? Okay?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Do you have? Well?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, Nick Saban has been going around TJ.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Basically, you know, making making statements and ripping the sport
and how bad it is and that these kids are
are I get it. He won seven championships, considered the
greatest college coach.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Of all of all time.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Uh but you know, uh, he's he's he doesn't like
the system.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
And this is my thing, TJ.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Everything evolves like when when there's something new, right, it
starts out it's the wild wild West, and then you
kind of figure it out, right, Like it's always like
that before you can see what it is exactly and
how it's gonna work and how a system can be formed.
The reason I'm again and one of his speaks speaking points,

(03:54):
talking points, is about them coming up with some sort
of system to make it you know, unilateral for everyone, right,
like some sort of guidelines and rules.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Here's the problem I have.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Ay, the colleges aren't coming out of their pockets paying
the athletes, so they should have no say in how
the money's administered.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
That's number one.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Number two, the players aren't at the bargaining table. They
don't have a union that represents the players as a whole,
So anything that's done is not gonna be in the
best entrance of the players.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
It will be in the best interest of the schools.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
See, if you want to try to come up with
some idea about kids when transferring and all that kind
of stuff, then the same rules have to apply to
coaches TJ who leave kids high and dry.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
They sit in their parents' living room.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh, I'm gonna make a man out of your kid,
and I'm gonna take care of him when he's at college,
and this, that and the other thing.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
They get offered a big job for money, and guess
what they do, TJ.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
They bounce on the kids right whenever they want. I'm
against this in every step of the way. The old
time guys like Nick Saban, if you don't like what's happening,
get out like he did. He retired, get out. Now
he's on a tour going around trying to get other

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things and changes and have other people agree with him
and follow what he wants done.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
In college football. You quit, you were tired.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I don't understand why people would listen to Nick Saban
at this point and determine what's right for the kids,
because they college has done wrong by the kids forever.
This is like the best thing that ever happened to
college athletes.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Rap. This is really crazy that we're agreeing on a
lot of stuff today because we normally don't agree. We don't,
but we are agreeing. You are on your stuff today.
Come on, man, Mike, this is what bothers me. Nick
Saban made over one hundred and fifty million dollars coaching

(06:07):
amateur spadred and fifty million dollars coaching, and the majority
of his players came from low income neighborhoods and families.
But you have a problem now that the player has

(06:27):
a little more control than you would like him to have,
meaning if he doesn't like what's going on, he's gonna transfer,
or I'm going to transfer to the score that gives
me the most money. The same way that you did
the same way you left Michigan State to LSU, an
LSU to the Miami Dolphins and then Miami Dolphins to
alab the same way, you put yourself in a better situation.

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That's what these kids are trying to do. And it's
so hypocritical that you've made millions upon millions of dollars
on the backs of these kids because no disrespect you
go to I'm not even gonna name, just go to
go to a small school and see if you're gonna

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win these national championship. Go to a small school and
see if you can win these You won because of
the players you were getting. Are you a great coach? Yeah?
But they are you a great coach to where you
can go to these one of these non power five
schools winning enough national championship? Absolutely not. And so I
don't like that when these coaches realize how he did. Ah,

(07:39):
I'm not gonna be able to compete now because our
boosters aren't gonna put the money up like the A
and M boosters or the Texas boosters. You put the
money up. You made over one hundred and fifty million.
You put it up. You for sure have enough when
you die, they not putting all your money in your casket.
So now you put some of the money up. Then

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you started, and you do it. You don't want to
do that though.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
You that'll never happen in that not for.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
One million coach, for one million and a million dollar
salary that you had, ten million will go into the
nil fund for the players. You could sign quite a
few players if you chose to do that, but you're not.
And so that's the problem that I have with it
is now that the players can benefit from themselves, which

(08:26):
should have always been the case. What's the problem. Why
don't you like it?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I'm with you, It's me And to all the money
he made off the back of these players and many
tj got nothing. You remember when they should throw kids
out of college for getting a free pizza and stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
You remember that. I mean, it was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Peter Word got robbed at the Heisman Trophy because he
got some free clothes. Peter Worrick is one of the
top two college football players that I've ever seen in
my life. Reggie Bush one of Heisman Trophy, but he
doesn't have a Heisman Trophy because he took a little
a few little dollars, Like are you serious? Right? But
you got all these people making millions of dollars and

(09:13):
now that the players are making thousands, it's a problem.
Really crazy.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
To me, it is crazy, And.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I hope the players don't give in and don't get
hoodwinked in the believing that any system that they want
to put together. That's why college players they need to unionize.
I've said this before. They need to unionize. That's the
only way they can get a fair TJ collective bargaining agreement,

(09:43):
because you need somebody that represents them as a whole,
not individuals.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
If you do it individually, it'll never work.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
It's got to be you represent everyone in college football
and give them the opportunity to earn money for years
selling guys basketball jerseys and football jerseys, for making money
in the gift shop. And the kids got nothing. And
then they try to say, oh that ain't you Well
what number is that? Who is number thirty running back?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Who is that? Just like the video game? Did you
see what they offered the kids?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
It opted money in two days, three days.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Six hundred dollars and a free game.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Are you kidding me? Millions off of that?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
And and people who was it? The manningson art right,
he didn't take it.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
He didn't take it, and these other kids who were
taking it and then going on their Instagram and advertising
for the company as well. It is mind boggling because
their kids and they don't even know better. You're signing
away to a company that's gonna make millions off of
using your likeness and they give you a cup of

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coffee in a sweet roll. That's what's six hundred dollars
in that game? Is in the grand scheme of things.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I just what They had an opportunity. The NCAA had
an opportunity to get out ahead of this. They chose
not to, but they didn't want to pay. They could
have done the money right. They had an opportunity and
they chose not to. And so now that it's the
way that it is, Oh, now they want to go
to Congress, they want help. You had an opportunity to

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handle the situation and you chose not to. It should
have always been like this. If a coach can leave,
why can a player. If a coach can get paid,
why can a player? For the longest, all the education
is enough, it really, but my coaches are making millions.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Million.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Offensive coordinator making millions now defensive coordinator making millions head
coach for making millions upon millions. The rest of the
position coaches are making few three, four, five, six, seven
hundred thousand.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Anybody that listens to what we're saying and they don't agree,
it's crazy. You go, how about this, You go work
for free? In because that's what you want to put
That's basically what you're saying. You want the players to do,
right that you go work for free, You go work
for free. Nope, we're not doing that. Nobody's gonna work

(12:26):
for free. But you want the players to believe getting
the education it's their coolership.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Is their payment right enough? That's what they want you
to believe. It's not.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
That's not the case. Not the hours that you put.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
In and the money being made, the money being made.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Look at the greedy they're about to go to fourteen
teams in the college football playoff. Why money? They're making millions,
printing money?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
All right, We want to hear from you.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. I'm playing simple
TJ and I bow in lockstep. Nick Saban is a hypocrite.
Anybody who's against the nil. I'm talking about who's in
the in the in the business, coaches and whatnot who
make millions and are against the kids getting nil money

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or being able to track their hypocrites because they've done
the same exact thing. Why is it a double standard?
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to seven ninety nine on Fox is Nick Saban And
these old dinosaur coaches.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Are they hypocrites or not? Or you side with them?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
We want to hear from you, TJ who we got,
Austin from Georgia. You on the I Couple, what you
got for us?

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Hey, guys, big big fan of the show. I appreciate you.
Yes there, I just wanted to say I agree a
lot with what you said about you know, saving and
you know, in regards to the union, I think they
certainly should and that may actually be able to get
you know, Reggie has you know, Heisman back, because I
know the Heisman Committee said something about ncaa A not

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recognizing the games they played. That's the only reason why
they wouldn't give it to them. If they unionized, then
they would be able to press that issue and get
them this title back. But end of the day, Saving
man I'm a Georgia Bulldog fan and I don't like Saban,
but I respect the man. I think what he's done
over there was a fantastic thing, and you know, at

(16:52):
the end of the day, I think I think they
have a long way to go before irons out. What
they're doing is a good I ain't getting the players paid.
The coaches certainly could take less money, give them an opportunity,
but you know, it's the same thing with NFL players.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
You know they know that.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
You know it ain't gonna happen that the coaches are
not taking last and not putting the money into a
pool for students.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's the shame of it. And thanks Austin. We appreciated.
Uh you know that. To Jay, it's just not going
to happen.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Never will happen. Jared from Idaho, you're on the I couple.
What you got for.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Us, Hey, with love the conversation stimulating, Appreciate what you
guys do.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Thank you, Jared.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
How do you how do you factor in scholarships to
the ni L Houston matter. People on full right scholarships.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's a big deal.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
But when you factor and getting paid, do the scholarships
becoming irrelevant, Jared.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Well, I mean there's a there's a few ways you
could do it if you really wanted to. You could
pay the kids, right, if the schools want to do it,
pay the kids, ascertain the amount of money, and if
you want to take out for the education part right
and give them the rest, And that's fine.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
So you're earning your keep if you say that four
years at Alabama is two hundred thousand dollars, I'm just
giving you a number. And you offer the guy three
hundred thousand to come to the school, TJ. He gets
to keep one hundred thousand, and his education's paid for.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
How's that in this thing? Though? Yeah, the better players
are gonna get more than that.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
And so I know, I'm just saying like a way
of getting around the whole idea about them saying that
they've given you the education.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
You see what I'm saying, like, put a dollar.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
In now every kid. Now, Honestly, when you recruit a.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Kid, thanks for the call, Jared.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
They don't care about being recruited. How much I gonna
get in I am right, that's all they care about
now because they know what it is. Average three star recruits.
What am I gonna get twenty five fifty? They want
to know, they want.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
They want something, no doubt because they see everybody else
getting You know, it's like that if somebody getting money yet,
why wouldn't you want some?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is our number.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Nick from Arizona has some kids that didn't leave the
University Arizona and stayed there. What you got for us
on a.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Couple guys, thanks for taking the call, love the show.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
I'm a former D one college athlete, and uh yeah,
saving's a hypocrite. Like people don't know how hard it
is to be a college athlete nowaday reach it's a
forty to sixty hour a week job. Especially you know,
even in the off season you're probably playing hurt. The
training staff is just trying to keep your duct taped

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together until you graduate.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Do you go keep it going?

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Yeah, you're gonna have injury post college that you're gonna
have to treat. I had to treat mine. It cost
me a couple of tens of thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
And here's another thing. When you have forty six hours
a week, if you want to do pre med or
be an engineer. You're probably gonna have to drop out.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
It's not gonna happen, right, He's not.

Speaker 7 (20:09):
Gonna have the amount of the amount of athletes that
dropped out of pre med with sad. And everyone talks
about healthcare being a problems, like, well, there's a lot
of people that would have been good at it that
didn't do it. And if you had a couple hundred
thousand dollars after you graduated, yeah, you just gone back
to school, get your pre med, go off to med school.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (20:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:31):
And so there's just a lot of reasons why I
think the college athletes, may.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
You get paid.

Speaker 7 (20:35):
It's not a hobby. It's not like high school sports.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
No, it's a good job for And you're right, Nick,
thanks for the call j for big time money, Like,
let's not those TV deals are massive, millions and millions
of dollars and none of it trickles down to the kids,
to the actual product, which is the kids that that's
the product.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Eight seven ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
We got our guy Andre from Massachusetts.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
You know, I know he calls up on game on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Right, that's a right, that's our god man. Andre is
a faithful listener to Fox Sports Radio. Gotta get him
on here, Dre, what's up.

Speaker 9 (21:13):
Baby, DJ TJ.

Speaker 8 (21:15):
I appreciated, thanks for taking the call and listen. I
gotta go to up on game because you guys spoke
about this situation specifically. Plaxico Burrows was at Michigan State.
He's a top pick, a lottery pick. When Nick Saban
was the coach there. Ye, he goes to Saban and
this is a working class guy. He says, Nick, what
should I do? Saban goes to Placico, you need to

(21:37):
stay in school. Got that when Nick Saban got that
LSU job. I remember this show specifically, Plactico said he
ain't never seen Nick again after that when he got
the job, never seen him again. And so the point
is on this topic, I cannot explain the level of
his hypocrisy coming from this class. Listen, I go, I

(21:58):
want everybody to get the chicken, to get the money
to be successful. Steve Starkesi and at Texas. In the
contract he has to have rights to a private jet
for personal use. That it's in the contract, and that's
based on the deal that Lincoln Riley got to bring

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him from Oklahoma with Caleb Williams to USC and so
these coaches are making money hand over fifth and they
have been for generations. Now once the players finally have
the opportunity to benefit. Yes, and coaches have spoken about this, Jamie,
excuse me. Jay Wright from Villanova, he retired from coaching
because of the nl IL Nick Saban, so on and four.

(22:40):
It has changed it. Kids aren't staying for three and
four years for you to develop them. I get that.
But back to the original point, Nick Saban, for you
to rage quit over this singular issue, and now to
go on this dog on revenge tour, Yes against NIL.
When you to TJ. To TJ's point, one hundred fifty

(23:00):
million dollars.

Speaker 9 (23:01):
You make more than the governor, any governor.

Speaker 8 (23:03):
Of Alabama has made for the entire century. And now
the players have the chance. Nick, end of the story.

Speaker 9 (23:10):
Stop.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
I'm starting to lose respect to you. I respect those
I respect these great coaches. I need to stop this
because it's it's diminishing your legacy taking the call.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
All right, dray Drey had passion on it, and he's right.
I know you guys talked about up on game.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
I mean, TJ.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
It's impossible to ignore when he's so loud out there
wringing the cow bell. You know what I mean, For
anybody who listen, it's ridiculous. All right, Antonio Daniels is
up next. We'll talk some more NBA, but first let's
get you caught up with mister Steve de Seger.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Guys.

Speaker 10 (23:44):
Selection Sunday for the NCAA Basketball Tournament. Is this Sunday?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
So?

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Is this Sunday? Okay?

Speaker 10 (23:50):
Five conference tournaments will end that day. A lot of
conference attorney's going on right now. In fact, early second half,
Number seven Iowa State only leading Kansas State forty four
to thirty nine Big Twelve quarterfinal on FS one Big
East Quarterfinals. Providence now leads eighth rank Creighton fifty three
forty three with about thirteen minutes left, and NC State
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Duke fifty three fifty about ten and a half minutes
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they're restructuring the contracts of Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa.
The Seattle Seahawks acquired quarterback Sam Howell from Washington as
a backup. They say. The Falcons traded quarterback Desmond Ritter

(25:15):
to the Cardinals for wide receiver Rondelle Moore. Green Bay
is re signing running back aj Dillon. The Texans gave
running back Joe Mixon a three year deal. He was
acquired from Cincinnati for a seventh rounder. Philadelphia side linebacker
Devin White as for the College Basketball Coaching News To
finish up, Jerry Stackhouse is out as Vanderbilt head coach.

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His team went nine and twenty three. This season is fifty.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Did they just signed him to extension? Writing was that
twenty twenty three?

Speaker 10 (25:46):
Yeah, they're really gonna have to pay him off.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
But they say, like he's gonna get TJ a ton
of money to get low.

Speaker 10 (25:54):
We'll never know how much. It's like, we never knew
how much Petekarra was making at USC because it's a
private school.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Private school's right, Yeah, they don't have to release.

Speaker 10 (26:03):
It's not like the next Saban what you were talking about,
those salaries where it's a state school and everybody knows.
Oklahoma State fired coach Mike Boyton after seven seasons, and
DePaul's new head coach is Chris Holtman, just fired by
Ohio State last month. DePaul basketball has not been to
the NCAA Tournament in twenty.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Years since Moby Dick was a gup.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
Not quite that far, but it's been a while.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
All right, Thank you, Steve, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
It is the couple on a TV theme song Thursday,
Rob Parker along with TJ. Houschmann Zada, the former wide receiver, TJ.
I mean you've been in the game sometimes. I don't
even be throwing out that wide receiver thing because you're
just in the mix with the up on game.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
What is that? What time is that your show on Saturdays?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Is that New to Eastern Pacific? Eleven to two or
eleven two to eastern? Right?

Speaker 3 (26:54):
How long you have been doing a show?

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Now? My god, it'll be three years this December. Four years,
I'm sorry, four years this December. Unbelievable. They probably didn't
think we was gonna last, and we going strong. I
enjoy it. It's fun, man, I really do nice.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Love it all right.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Coming up next here he is Antonio Daniels of course,
NBA champ, Sirius XM NBA host of course, the Pelicans,
color TV analysts, and a Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst.
Antonio say hey to TJ. Houshman Zada, how are you?

Speaker 9 (27:33):
I am blessed Rob. How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Brother?

Speaker 9 (27:34):
How are you doing? TJ? Over Joy?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well? How are you?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (27:38):
All good man, Antonio, Let's start here. The Knicks had
a little run was an aberration in this man's NBA,
but they held.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Three teams under eighty points.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
First time that has happened since twenty twelve something like that.
So we talked about twelve years. Is that just an aberration.
Can we start defense again in the NBA? Or that'shi
of sale.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
Now that ship is sailed. But even though the thing
that you know around this time of the year, the
whistle starts to change, especially in certain games. Right now,
watching the Phoenix Boston game, they're officiating this game, it's
like it's a playoff game.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (28:19):
Right, So as you get closer to the end of
the season, especially games are significant, they're allowing a little
more contact. I've been saying this is my biggest pet
piece with the NBA, outside of low management. This right here,
I feel like the NBA is really missing out on
the gray area as far as physicalities concerned. You ain't
got to go all the way back to nineteen eighty

(28:41):
where Kirk Rambits is getting ring necked and the bogles
are coming off, and you ain't got to come all
the way to twenty and twenty four where there's no
contact whatsoever. There is a grey area of physicality that
the NBA is missing. But this time of the year,
for whatever reason, maybe they're gearing up teams for the playoffs.
You can see him starting to allow a little bit

(29:02):
more physicality.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Let me follow up TJ real quick. I was in Detroit.
I was a columnist at the Detroit News during the
Pistons two thousand and four run to the championship and
they beat I'm sorry, TJ, but Shaq and Kobe stopped
them in that chair, Nobody thought the Pistons were gonna
beat Yeah, I mean that was that was That was
a five game sweep. I mean they should have won

(29:24):
all five of those games. Remember Kobe hit that three.
But anyway, my point is nobody wants to return to that.
That team used to hold people under seventy points. Okay,
But what I liked about that team, Antonio, was Basketball's
fun when you try when you can get stops at
the end of games.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Do you like That's the part that I missed.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Like I get about shot making, but there was a
point when guys would would be able to get a
stop at the end, you know what, Like we need
two stops, you know, to get back in this game.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
We need.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I think it's missing.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
I agree. I mean my bindon is that this league
has never been more skilled than it is now as
far as shot making. This concerns ball handling, all these
other kind of things. But they've also they don't need
this much health. They really don't need this much health.
And I'm with you, I would love to see the
defense have some shot have a change because these guys

(30:22):
are too skilled. They are too skilled. They're guys that
are in range the moment they cross half court, in
range the moment that they cross half court. And basically
what you're telling them is if you can't touch them,
you can't even contest. I can't get too close because
if he comes down and I'm in his area, now
it's a flagran fast. So I have to give him

(30:43):
a lengthy amount of room to get that shot off too.
So it's not the fact that I have an issue
with today's generation and blah blah blah, so on and
so forth. That's not it. I'm not the old man,
get off my yard. But I feel like there's a
great area that's being missed here when you have to
allow guys that to defend the ability to defend, And
I feel like a lone that's been taken away.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
So do you do you feel like there needs to
be a little more consistency and the way games are
called because you get one officiating crew and it will
be called this way, and you get another officiating crew,
the game is called completely different. But also you have
guys like Steph Curry. Now, if you're able to body

(31:25):
him up, so to speak, will he be as effective
when you say they cross half court they're in range.
Now if you really get up in them, are they
really in range? And so what are you seeing needs
to be done? Is it a change of the rules
or an adjustment of the rules.

Speaker 9 (31:43):
I think it's it's a change of the rules. Well,
I guess you can call it. I guess the change
in the adjustment will kind of be the change. To me,
the rules need to be adjusted and in essence that
means they need to be changed. I feel like this
in particular, and and Adam Silber said, this is something
that they're going to look at over the summer because
they understand that the way that guys players are smart,

(32:04):
players are smart, like think about it this way, TJ. Like,
even in the NFL, because this is not just an
NBA issue. In the NFL, now there's a there's a
clear cut difference in the rules for now to the
way of work ten fifteen years.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Oh yeah, absolutely, you know as.

Speaker 9 (32:23):
Far as what's allows, you know, as far as touching
and what it is passing afference, what you can do
to the quarterback, what you can't. So the game has changed,
the roles have been altered, so to speak. And back
to the NBA. These guys are so incredibly skilled. They're stilled,
isn't These are not role players like I was. They're not.
And if you press up on Steph Curry at half port,

(32:46):
he has the skill set and the handle to be
able to go around you. So what's not as simple
is simply pressing up at somebody and that's just going
to eliminate the issue. It's not that easy. I just
don't like the fact that I don't even have an option.
I don't even have an option to press up and
be more aggressive. I don't have an option to use
my strength, which may be my physical strength that I

(33:08):
have over other guys. That's been taken away. And I
love that the NBA's progressive indit area because this is
something that they come out. Adam Silver and the Brain
Shrust has said, this is something that they come out
and they're going to take a look at. But I'll
tell you what, Watch the last quarter of this season.
Watch this whistle, watch the whistle, and watch how from

(33:30):
much contact that guys are allowed to get away with
now as opposed to the previous sixty sixty five games
of the seasons.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Last thing, Antonio, I think some people probably owe Ben
Simmons an apology. And I know Ben Simmons, you know,
he's been through a lot. But this guy on Thursday
head his second back surgery in three years and hasn't played.
And I know sometimes people look at a guy's young,

(34:00):
Oh my god, he doesn't want to play the game
of all this money.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
You're not getting your back cut on twice.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
In three years unless you really need it, I mean,
And I think sometimes people are quick not to realize
that there are people who are hurt. And maybe that's
why he hasn't been able to play the last three years.

Speaker 9 (34:16):
Yeah, it's not the fact sometimes Rob that people don't
realize people don't do their due diligence. And it's very
easy to sit back and judge someone to assume because
they have money, in because they have fame, that they
have it all figured out. We talk about this on
our radio show all the time. Ben Simmons has been
put in a box for the last four years.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yep, you know.

Speaker 9 (34:37):
And the thing is, if you understand and put yourself
in that position, think when you were I don't know
how old Ben Simmons.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Is now, he's like twenty six years old.

Speaker 9 (34:46):
Young, okay, exactly, So think when you were twenty six
years old, did you have it all figured out?

Speaker 8 (34:52):
No?

Speaker 9 (34:52):
That money, no, No. So it's unfair to put young
athletes in boxes because what fans do the whole athletes
to standers that they don't practice themselves. And Ben Simmons
is one of those guys. I've defended him at nause
him on my own radio shows. Yeah, not to say
that he's the best player or he no, no that,

(35:13):
but he's one of these guys that I would love
to see have a redemption season. I would love to
see it because I've heard nothing but negative things about him.
He did not shoot that ball in Philadelphia a few
years back at Josh Liver says, I'm not sure if
I can win with him moving forward. I heard nothing
but negative about him, and he's a young man that

(35:34):
I just want to see get healthy. Mentally and physically
and get back on my floor and prove a lot
of people wrong. I want him to have a resurrection season.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I would love two or too, especially if he's healthy.
Two back surgeries is a ton in three years. All right,
Antonio Daniels, our guy. We'll appreciate you, my man. Thanks
for the knowledge for sure.

Speaker 9 (35:56):
Rob TJ. I appreciate you, boys.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Man, Thank you, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
All right, Coming up next, I think TJ to Jets
are playing it right with this whole Aaron Rodgers and
VP thing because they haven't really said anything. But we'll
talk about that next. It is the Odd Couple on
a TV Theme Song Thursday. Rob Parker, Tjhuschman, Zada right
here on Fox Sports Radio. Stick and stay with the
Jets and Aaron Rodgers in the US of A.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
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(36:53):
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Speaker 3 (37:03):
I mean it was okay, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
It was solid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was solid. Now
I don't even really watch shows, man, I just watched sports.
If it's sports not on, I don't watch TV now.
That's pretty much what.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Sports or news that's all I watch too.

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(37:42):
whole Aaron Rodgers thing. One day, we're hearing a clip
where he says I want to play three or four years.
And the next thing we're hearing is the Robert F.
Kennedy Junior is thinking about asking Aaron Rodgers to be
as vice president as an independent ticket for the presidential
election coming up. And I think the Jets did the

(38:04):
right thing. They have not commented on it because apparently TJ.
When Robert F. Kennedy Junior makes his decisions going to
be in the next two.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Weeks or so.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
So if Aaron Rodgers isn't accepting it, right, why would
you comment on it until that happens, Like somebody can
consider you, somebody can you could be flattered by it.
But do you really think Aaron Rodgers is gonna quit
football to be on a third ticket for.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Vice president?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Absolutely not. You're not gonna l so you're gonna quit
football to lose an election that you know you're not
gonna win when you git football, So absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I just that's why I think the Jets have handled
it right by not commenting.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
You know, let's do what if he isn't the vice
president candidate for JFKJ, then then our JFK Robert then Robert.
Why would you comment on something because at that point
it would just be speculation. You're just speculating, you're just assuming,
and so until it happens, and if it happens, then

(39:18):
you comment. I doubt very seriously that it will happen
because Aaron Rodgers is a smart human being. He's not
going to put himself in that position to where you
have to stop playing to do something you know you're
not going to win right.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
No, I agree, I think smart all the way around.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I like it. So Aaron, I'm a fan. I'm a
fan of Aaron Rodgers though. So you know the criticism
that nobody has responded about, Well, yeah, he's just all Well,
Aaron Rodgers is so posedly a candidate. Well aren't we
all until we aren't?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I mean, I mean, somebody can consider you, and you
could be flatter Tjames. Somebody considers you, but that doesn't
mean a they picked you or be you would accept
even if they do come to you and say something.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
That's what I'm saying. It's just speculation. It's just talk.
And Robert F.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Kennedy Junior got a lot of a lot of exposure
from you right by.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Haven't Aaron Rodgers name.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Attached free publicity?

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Yes, it was everywhere. Most people didn't even know that
Robert F. Kennedy Junior was running it's a third ticket.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I didn't know. I promised you. I had no idea
until they talked about it. And when they started talking
about it on the sports shows that I watch and
things that I read, that's when I said, oh okay.
But Aaron Rodgers again is a smart individual. He has
no chance of winning, and you can't do both. You're

(41:00):
not gonna be al and playing the National Football League,
and so you go with the guarantee thing, and.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Then at forty and at forty you know you just can't.
You're at the end with a lot.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
To prove, with a lot to prove. I would be
with Aaron Rodgers this Saturday, though, So let's see how
that goes. I'ma be wooting this Saturday.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Okay, that'll be cool, all right. Third hour of The
Odd Couple coming up next. We're gonna talk some football
and cutting a big time quarterback. The Broncos did it?
Should the Cowboys do it? I want to hear what
TJ has to say. It is The Odd Couple. Fox
Sports Radio on a TV theme song Thursday

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