August 12, 2024 • 35 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Chris, and he and Rob debate whether Steph Curry’s flurry of three pointers late in the USA-France gold medal game should count as ‘clutch’ shots, argue if Justin Fields or Russell Wilson should be the front-runner for the Pittsburgh Steelers’ QB1 job and debate whether Jayson Tatum should bother coming back to Team USA for the 2028 Olympics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Martin Weiss, I know you were glued watching the gold
medal game and Steph Curry going off and putting up
threes left and right, and of course my phone was
going crazy from people. What do you think they were
saying to me? Martin, I already know what.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
They were saying, what they say, and I'm I just
want you to know preemptively. I'm disappointed in you for
this one, Rob disappointed.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Don't don't. I'm not mad. Don't give up. I'm not mad. No,
I'm just disappointed. I know what they were. They were
sending you all types of clips. Oh, you see Steph
Curry boom boom, boom boom, with the layup of Devin
Booker in between. You see Stephen Curry.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
He's led in the United States against the French gold medal.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
How do you say that in French? Who knows?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Holly vou fonsai we we. I don't think that's gold medal. No,
that's not gold medal. But that's a little French right there.
And yes, ho ho h. But anyway, the overwhelming text
that came through on my phone was.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
I told you Steph was clutch. Tell me that's not clutch.
Steph is clutch.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Because I'm the one honest voice in America who says
he can't be the greatest shooter of all time because
he doesn't make clutch shots.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
He's over for fourteen.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
When he has a chance to tie or put his
team ahead in the final twenty thirty second twenty seconds
of a game postseason Sea, he's.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Never made one of those shots.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
If you're gonna be the greatest shooter of all time,
you gotta make those shots. And I'm here to tell
you on this Magic City Monday that Steph Curry, while
making big shots, Martin Weiss did not make any clutch
shots in helping the United States win goal.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
All right.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
The score during Steph's last four to three pointers, the
United States was up by three they were up by six,
they were up by six, and they were up by six,
So that means three of those shots, of those last
four threes he made that it was already a two
possession game. That's what makes something clutch. It's when you
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hit a home run in the bottom of the ninth, Martin,
and your team is down a run and you win
the game, or you tie the game in the bottom
of the ninth and send it to extra innings.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
That's what clutches. Did he make big shots?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yes, but your definition, and if people think he made
clutch shots, you can't be more wrong. It's not clutch,
big shots, a barrage, whatever you want to call it,
it ain't clutch if it's a two possession game.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
It's that simple, all right, Merriam Webster.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Since you want to talk about the definition of clutch,
I don't know what else you would call it.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
As France was walking the.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
United States down and Steph Curry was the only one
hitting them with the stiff form on the way out,
that's the way.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
That's basically what that was for.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
You said they were down three, were up three, up six,
up six, and then up nine six.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Do you know why they were up six because Steph
Curry's the one hitting jump shots.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
That's the reason why they were up all these Steph
Curry had an all time performance in the last two
games of the Olympics, the semi finals and the finals.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
In without that fourth quarter victor.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Win, Benyama and crew are holding the gold medal out
of Steph Curry. If you wanted to say, oh, Steph
can't do it unless he's got an all star team
around him. Oh if Steph can't do it in the NBA,
Oh Steph can't do all right, I'm here for that.
But you can't tell me that what we saw in
this gold medal game was not clutch. Look was he
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The reason why the score was what it was was
because of him hitting clutch shot after clutch. No, you
got it wrong, including big shot including Bill Ower, he
was double teamed on an all time heater looked off.
Lebron James and Kevin Durant, two of the mount rushmore
NBA players of this era, looked them off and said audios.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
However you say it in French. He made big shots,
not clutch shots. Ray Allen shot for the Miami Heat.
That's a clutch shot. If he misses that. When Michael
Jordan made a shot over Craig Elaw I covered that game.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Okay, If Michael.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Jordan misses that shot, the Chicago Bulls go home and
the series is over, that's a clutch shot. If Ray
Allen misses that shot, Lebron James doesn't have four Championshi GIFs.
He has three, and his legacy is totally different, that's
a clutch shot. What stuff made were big shots, but
they weren't clutch. Just understand is a difference in the
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definition of what's clutched Martin and what's big. Did he
make big shots? Yes, he did, They're not clutch. None
of those baskets were the reasons why they were up
by six to make a three because three No, I'm
talking about those.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Four threes at the end, all right, But those are the.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Ones that were three Why because he hit a three?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
No? Up by six, why because he hit a three?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
No, But we're talking about when they went from six
to nine, and those last ones.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Those don't happen unless he hit the first two.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
What it's not. It's not clutch, dude, it's not clutch.
The game wasn't in the ballance. Would you say ray
Allen shot was clutch. Would you call it a clutch
shot or not? I was at the shot you're discussing today.
That's the big clutch. That shot that ray Allen made.
We got on there for ten minutes. Every shot you've
named that has been a clutch shot. That shot that
ray Allen made. It the same as the ones that
Stuff made in the in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No't, I'm responding to you. The difference was those were
in the series. This is the one game knockout, but
that was for the series. That was a one game.
When they played six games, they would make Miami could
have took care of one game that forty minutes for
the for the respect of your country because you was
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an elimination game.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
What are you talking about ray Allen shot? You're gonna
tell me that that was the same shot of the
four that Stuff made on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
No, I'm telling you is all of those shots are.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Clutched, the all of Michael Jordan made that shot over
Craig elas same shot that Stuff made. Again, you keep
naming other clutch shots to compare it to these clutcht
I agree with.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
You a little bit. To make it any less clutch
you got depth didn't make any clutch shots.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
You want to talk about all of those seas, You
want to talking about all those themes Lebron this, Michael Jordan,
that they can lose.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
You know what Team USA can't do.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
They can't even win ugly without being excoriated by from
Seed to signing Sea.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
From Maine all the way to Arizona.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
They were gonna be talking about how Team USA choked,
Steve Curves the worst, Lebron this KD that Lebron's all
of the different jokes that would be flying out of
this scenario had Steph Curry not said, you know what,
hold on a second, Draymond Green, don't you worry about me.
I'm gonna come in here and knock this thing out,
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take this thing home.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
And it was a story.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Not too long ago that was out and it's funny
and that we look at this story and it's from
one of Steph's teammates, Andre Iguodalwa and Andrea Goodower. This
wasn't five years ago. This was recently was asked if
he had to pick uh someone to make a big
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basket to win a game, did he play with Steph
Curry not Yes, not nod Ago. Did he had he
play with Steph Curry. Andre Gudow, Yes, Rob. We all
watched the finals, Okay, like come on when he won
the MVP over Steph the first championship they won. But anyway,
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holding lebron to forty and guess what he picked, And
guess what we picked Kiwie Irving, not Steph Curry as
the guy he would want to make a shot in
a clutch moment.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
You know what the team.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He made he was doing two days This is somebody
who watched close days ago, just like every other dad
in America. He was standing at the TV shouting, shoot
it again, shoot it again. When he passed it to
Kevin Durant right there on that double team, and Katie
passed it right back. Andre Gordala stood up and clapped
his hands and said, yes, doing to him again, be
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doing to him again, Steph doing to him?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Get Steph.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Kyrie was watching it just like Andrea Goodala was. I
don't even know when that quote is from, and honestly
don't really.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Care it was.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
It was why to change the fact it was from
February twenty nine to twenty twenty four, so it was
this year, not five years.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Hold on, and the quote is Kyrie Irving. It's not
even close. It's not even close. It's the only thing.
And that is why. Because Steph Curry's oh for fourteen
and anybody who's watched his career and is not just
a fanboy who has honestly watched his career in spots
where he needed to make a shot to help his
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team win, he's missed those shots, except he's the game, which.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Is why people are saying it's the biggest shots he's
hit in his career. That's like, your argument makes sense
if you, oh, Steph can't hit big shots when he's
got if he doesn't have a Hall of Famer surrounding it,
Steph can't hit big shots in the NBA. The idea
that those weren't big shots in the Gold.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Medal guess by what I said, please do nothing the
most watched I'm saying, if you said.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That, send their big shots to not clutch shots, they're
bull right, No they're not.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
They're both.
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Speaker 3 (11:00):
Preseason games are underway, as we know, not very exciting
for the most part, but they are. You know, you
gotta get the work in. Justin Fields had a pretty
pretty good start there for the Steelers, except for he
had a couple of fumbles which didn't go over well
with his coach. Can't turn the ball over, you know
that he's a big turnover machine. But anyway, Justin Fields,
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Russell Wilson, they're both there. People who thought it's gonna
be all about Russell Wilson, and then all of a
sudden they make a trade. They get Justin Fields for nothing,
absolutely nothing. But he's on the team. He's a young guy,
got a lot of ups start, and Martin Weis thinks
he should be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
You're all in on Justin Field?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, I mean, well, to say I'm all in makes
it seem like I'm betting that it'll work. But if
you have the options, though, I mean, let's be honest,
neither one of these are great options, right, So have
an asparagus or broccoli, you know both neither Your third
grader's not gonna like either one. But if I have
to make the choice between these two guys, like the
Steelers have to do to me, the answer is clearly
far away Justin Fields. If for no other reason, he's younger,
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he's more athletic, and if he hits you have a
franchise quarterback. Russell Wilson can go out there and play
the season of his life, his best season he's ever played.
And you know you got at most two more seasons
out of him, three more seasons out of them.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Justin Field's go out.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
There and you figure out a way to tap into
some of the potential that everybody saw leading up into
this draft or leading up into his draft class where
he was picked. Then you actually have a shot to
have a guy for the next five six years that
can lead your team. And when you look at a
guy like justin Fields, no one is saying, Look, especially
with what the Steelers are trying to do.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
You go with Arthur Smith. He's gonna want to run
the ball.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Is gonna be a lot of play afts, It's gonna
be a lot of bootlegs, is gonna be a lot
of things where it really helps to have athletic quarterback.
And Russell Wilson just strains his cat pushing the tackling sled.
Should he have been pushing a tackling sled, of course not,
He's a quarterback. When's the last time he saw Russell
Wilson on the lead block. I'll answer for you it's never.
But the reality of the situation is we look at
Russell Wilson and he graduated from high school the same year.
(13:04):
I ain't got no business being an NFL quarterbacks. Honestly,
if you look at the last two seasons he had
in Denver, he don't look like he had any business.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Being an NFL. Play played pretty well. Play He played
so well that Sean Payton, the guy who.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Knows Payton hated him before he got He hated him
before he.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
No, he's won one super Bowl with the Hall of
Fame quarterback A quarterbacks or no he had yeah, Sean Payton,
No nothing about quarterbas four losing season the Hall of
Fame quarterbacks. So you're not you're telling me Sean Payton
does not it's not a good at quarterbacking valuation.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
All I'm telling you is that you're giving him way
too much credit. And what he did to Russell Wilson
was ridiculous, unprofessional, and he hated him.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
From the minute he walked to the door. He played
well last year.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Stop stop, No, Russell Wilson, he under what metrics? Besides
he played in the sub ratio? Did he play played
well last He was trying not to know the idea
that Russell Wilson played well. First of all, it's the fallacy.
But I'm gonna leave that there. You're telling me that
Sean Payton don't know what he's doing when he comes quarterback.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Oh, I just told you.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They have four losing seasons with a a what a
Hall of Fame quarterback? Didn't they they were seven and nine,
like four years they won one Super Bowl under that.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Everybody, everybody says Mike McCarthy's no good. Mike McCarthy and
Sean Payton.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Go look at their they're identical, their records almost I have.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Never said a guy who won thirty six games in
the last three years is no good. But a lot
of people don't respect Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I respect both. They both know.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
And you look at Mike McCarthy with Dak Prescott. Dak
Prescott was running up for m VP this year. I
think he knows the thing or two about.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Quarterback runner up and he only got there was no
one first place vote?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Is that it? Would you call that runner?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, that's what happened. You come in second, you're the runner.
Und I don't think it's.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
A real runner up when the other guy got almost
all white.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Literally by definition, mister, the definition of clutches day.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
If you're coming second, you're the runner up. All right,
that's just the way it works. If we can establish that.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Fact that maybe we can told you a million times loud,
doesn't make you right but quiet doesn't make you right either.
Sean Payton was so ready to move on from Russell
Wilson he spent eighty five million dollars to send him away,
to send him away, like right, Like what more do
you need? Like?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
That is it? People make mistakes?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Do front office? People make mistakes on people? Yeah, the
mistake was training for Russell Wilson. No, what the mistake
was the thing?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
You're fanning all over Justin Fields? Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Since joining the league in twenty twenty one, Field's is
last among thirty eight qualified quarterbacks and fourth quarter interceptions.
That's sixteen, thirty six in completion percentage fifty six point two,
and thirty third in quarterback when this is the guy
you got your panties in a bunch over last season.
Through week seventeen before players started the rest. For Week eighteen,
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Fields rank last in the NFL fourth quarter please in
percentage fifty one point eight, twenty fifth in yards per
temp five point nine, tied for twenty ninth and fourth
quarter interception six, and thirtieth in QBR twenty point four?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Was that that's your guy? Who is that? About? Week seven?
That's your guy?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Justin Field that's your guyding In week seventeen, Russell Wilson
was banished through the dog on bench. But that's your guy.
You're making a big, your big stink about like guy
stan Field. Like I said, if I had to choose
either one of them, I'd rather neither. But force with
this decision. Asparagus or broccoli, give me the broccoli. That
Justin Field, who's going to be the starting quarterback on
that team? Martin, wife, you can see here all day
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and talk about what you want. I'm asking you Justin Field.
He's not going to be the starting quarter Justin Fields
will be the Justin Field will start for games this season.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
The Russell will.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Wandn't ask you that. Who's going to be the starting
quarterback of this season? Just Ston Field is what I
just start the season. Justin Field?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I mean, anybody who's the start of Week one? I'm
talk about who's the starter all? He's going to be
the starting quarterback when the season starts? When week starting
quarter I'm asking the fielders next year, then I'm asking
you who's the starting quarterback of the Pittsbirsts next?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Russell Wilson, stop it, Russell will stop it. He's gonna
play two years there. Justin Fields is a turnover machine.
That's why he's not with the Bears. The players tried
to convince us, oh, don't trade Justin Field. Oh my god,
look at Ormans. Butthet you and you didn't have anybody
around him. They couldn't get him out of town fast enough.
They could not get it, and look.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Like that opportunity to replaces they traded for him.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Nobody wanted Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Everybody needs a quarterback, so half the league needs a quarterback.
We got nothing for him, zero so they actually so
actually that's not true because they traded a sixth round
pick that could turn it towards sex round pick. Remind me,
Remind me of six round pick them to be a
franchise quarterback. Remind me, though, what was the deal for
Russell Wilson? He comes with a big contract.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
What was about Field? What was the deal for Russell
Wilson Field? I'm a what was the deal for Russell Wilson?
Because I'll tell you what the deal was for Russell Wilson.
If you don't want to listen, I'll tell.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
You what it was. This is what it was. Anybody
in the NFL could have signed him.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Anybody in the NFL could have signed him, And the
Pittsburgh Steelers are paying him less than the Detroit Lions
are playing Hendon Hooker right now.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Anybody in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Because the massive bidding war for Russell Wilson never hap.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
He got his money. He already got money. But I'm
talking about what I'm saying, it's already paid. What are
you talking about?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So he could have taken he could have taken more
money to go elsewhere?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Why money that was already set differ?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
So would you rather have eighty six million dollars coming
to you or eighty nine million dollars coming to you?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
That's why what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I'm talking about that nobody else in the NFL wanted
to offer Russell Wilson a contract of note, which is
why the Pittsburgh Steelers are paying him less than half
the backups in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
This.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, but nobody would have to nobody in their right mind,
why he already he's getting his money.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Because if there was because if there was a bidding
war for his service, war, if there was a bidding
war for his services, right, if people actually had to
give anything up for him. No one was willing to
do it. The New York Giants were not willing to
do it. What's the age.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Difference between Russell Wilson and your guy Justin Fields, your
messiah at least eleven years.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I'm not saying Field just you keep you keep, No
he juel Messiah.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I'm not saying I had never once said that.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
When I'm telling you, they couldn't even get more young
player who still hasn't even scratched the surface. Probably got
more there, right, maybe, but nobody wanted to take a
flyer on a young quarterback who was supposed to be
a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
They got a sixth round draft pick. Yes, six round
picks start in this league all the time. It's a
sixth round pick that could turn into a fourth thron
pick depending on how much he plays. That is a
tangible item, that is a thing, that is a thing.
You can't just poo pull a sixth round pick. You know,
the Chicago may have drafted the next Tom Brady with
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that sixth round.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
And here's the other reason why you already know why
teams wouldn't do that, Because it's the offsetting contract, and
no team is gonna help the Bronco. So if you
signed him, the more money that's gonna offset the money
from the Bronco.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
So you're not gonna help the Bronco. Who cares about
helping the Broncos about helping yourself?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
You don't. You don't do it.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
That's the problem with his time of Fucan saw Russell Wilson,
who was a healthy at the end of the year
and said, you know what, Kirk Cousins, I'd rather give
you one hundred million dollars guaranteed third a year older
with no achilles tendon.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
He was a free agent. Though, what are you talking about?
Russell Wilson was a free agent to me? What he
got Nobody had money coming to him. Oh what, No,
there's a big difference. No, that's a big there's an
offsetting contract. Sure, but you can't even put the off
setting contract.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yes I can, you can.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
You can't reason why it's eighty five million coming from
denver is because the Pittsburgh Steelers were the only team
willing to offer him any money, and the only money
they were willing to offer was just over a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So why did they just go after Justin Fields? Was
available before Russell Wilson he was, he was, he wasn't.
He was available fundamentally, that's not available.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Why because he.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Were going to take Caleb Williams. Everybody in Chicago knew it.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
But he wasn't. Why wasn't he available? Mark, because what Russell.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Wilson got bench the season was still going on to
Justin Fields to the start quarterback.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
No, but I'm talking about what in the off season.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
In the off season, Russell Wilson was the most available
free agent that possibly could have been. And I tell
you not a with eighty six million that ain't that
ain't a free agent.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
You're trying to act like.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
That, changing the definitions, not making any less true. Yes,
because of Russell Wilson was released by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Why he was released because they couldn't find a trade
partner after he was only going to trade.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Nor would they do that. Why would anybody in their
right mind? Nobody wanted him?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Okay, nobody saw he's at the Pittsburgh Steelers as a
starting quarterback.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
He shouldn't be, No, but he is. That's the point. No,
But what what you want? You starting quarters?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
August twelve, nobody wanted him, but the Pittsburgh Steelers went
now made a miss staring quarterback?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Correct? I went on, did they yes or no? Answer
the question, no, they didn't. They did? They did it.
Week one has not happened yet.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
There is no starting quarterback for the Russell Wilson is
number one of the depth chart in August. Sam Darnold's
number one in the depth tart Right now, do you
think J. J. McCarthy's not gonna get snaps like this?
What are you talking like? Jackson the whole game. I
haven't seen JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
We have seen Justin Fields, and we've seen seeing the
turnovers Martin, We've.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Seen that's the contract for a backup DEAs Why nobody,
That's why nobody wanted Justin Field.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Nobody went out explain Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
No, but but, but there's a difference between the two
one guys and older quarterback at the back end of
his career. Justin Fields a young guy, maybe potential. Everybody's
looking for a quarterback. The problem is the only time
we watch highlights is of him running around, not throwing
the football. That's why people haven't bought into him.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Well, Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos bought eighty five
million dollars into the idea that Russell Wilson Key Carr
would stop working at the Denver Broncos, and the rest
of the league could have gotten him for that same number.
The rest of the league could have gotten it for
that same contract. All these different quarterback scenarios could have
got him.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
For the deal.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
They don't make any said, nobody's gonna go out and
give him eighty five million.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
No one has to how about this? How about this?
How about they go out and give him three million.
You don't have to do that. How about you go
I give him three million. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Nobody wanted to even triple what the Steelers willing to pay,
which was just over a million dollars.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Nobody will want you.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
He's gonna get eighty five Why do I need to
give him any money? Because you need to start a quarterbacks.
The Steelers needed a starting quarterback and they got him.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
So did the Giants. Okay, what did the Giants do?
The guy? Giants got a guy on the hook. That's
all right.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
The Giants have been making mistakes when they signed Daniel
Jones to forty million dollars, and then they're gonna make
another mistake by going ahead and trying to prove that
Daniel joneses that got.
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Speaker 3 (24:11):
Let's do some NBA, and let's do the Final Hour.
And Jason Tatum, right, and Jalen Brown, especially Jason Tatum, what.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Would you consider his experience?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Of course, the first things that they were asking him.
Of course, he won the gold medal. That should be good, right, excited,
But he got bench two games, he didn't play in two
of the eight games, disappointed NBA, All NBA First Team
and didn't play in two games or whatever. And so
the first question, naturally, is would that deter you from
(24:49):
wanting to play in the next Olympics in twenty twenty
eight because your experience.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Was so bad?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Instead of people like saying, wow, what a year for
Jason Tatum. You know, he won the NBA Finals, finally
got off the snide, won a championship and now you
gotta go medal. What a year he's having. People are like,
why is he being disrespected? Why is he not being played?
What's wrong with Steve Kerr? People coming to his defense,
his mom, Bob Coozy, all kinds of people, Dick Vtel
(25:22):
all mad at Steve Kerr and what he went through.
As far as Jason Tatum, where are you on that?
And of course Jayleen Brown didn't even get invited. Three
of his teammates are there. This guy was the finals
MVP and Martin he didn't even get invited to go play.
Would you want to participate in twenty twenty eight? Because
(25:45):
I'm telling you I can get grimy and hold a
grudge like anybody else. And if I'm Jason Tatum, I
say thank you going forward, but no thank I got
my goal medal. I'm good after the way you disrespect him,
after the way I mean to not play me in
two games? Seriously, And you talk about Rob g the
(26:08):
list of first Team All NBA, wasn't Jason Tatum the
only American on that list, the only American on that list,
and he not playing in the In the Olympics, there's
two games where you can't find a spot for Jason
Tatum to play.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
So was he supposed to get sympathy minutes or so,
like it would you have like Jason Tatum could be
playing period, he should be playing because all finals. The
conversation was, why is it Jason Tatum playing better? Right
then he comes out closing the Olympics, does it? I
mean he's playing fine, he's playing okay, But yeah, I'm sorry,
jayt you might have to sit the bench when Lebron
(26:47):
and Kevin Durant are the two wings that are starting
in front of you, you might.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Just have It's not about starting, it's about playing. The
guy guy started one game.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
This, how does he not play two games? Martin?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Come on, Articularly, nobody is playing in a one off
game like the Olympics are are not necessarily when there's
no back to backs, there's no travel, and the rest
is kind of structured in nobody's saying taking Jason Tatum
over Lebron or Kevin Durant. Now, over the span of
an eighty two game season, that's a different story.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Over the span of.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
The NBA, all the people have made us think they're
just making this up.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
They gotta have some people gotta have something. Especially this
is what this is, what it is. This is the
team USA basketball. It's very much like when Nick Saban
was coaching Alabama or some of That's really what it is.
It's a college football team. In terms of disrespect. It's
not about winning. It's about how much you went by
how it looks when you win. They almost lost the
(27:44):
South to dan in an exhibition game, and people are
losing their minds, myself included. Everybody's gonna nitpick about one
little thing when you're behind Lebron James, who is one
of the best basketball players that we've ever seen, and
behind Kevin Durant, who unequivocally is the Olympic leadings scorer. Yeah,
maybe JT is not gonna get enough good to get
the same playing time that.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You think nobody asked for the same playing time, but
not to play.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It's outrageous. It's outrageous.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You're not talking about Martin what amount of minutes or
he's counting the minutes and saying, oh, the minutes are
on up to par whatever. That's not exactly what we're
talking about played.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
If Jason played him at played ten minutes combined in
the last three games of the Olympics, we won't be
talking about it.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Not no, not the same way that he had a
d MP twice. So if he had so, if he
had played two and a half minutes, he should the game.
In the last two games Steve Kerr would be talking about.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Could have found minutes for him. But why though, why
out of respect? Out of respect?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
You know what Jason Tator finished from the floor in
jump shots in the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Oh for sixteen? Oh for sixteen? And what does that mean?
It means, I mean what play. It means he was
not playing well enough to justify It's just that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Lebron Jays and Kevin Durant And this is not a
hot take, like everybody just needed something to complain about.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
And that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
He's one of the best players in the NBA. He
just led his team to an NBA championship.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Did it because.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Jalen Brown got the Dyalen Brown got the MVP Trophy
all times they were available, Okay?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
And who who was the leading school, who had who
had who was the leading scorer, who had the most rebound?
You want to go look at the stats. I want
to go look at the ship. I don't have to
look like so who let it? Who let an all category.
Did Jason who let in all categories? I'll ask did
he play well?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Did he play well in the final? He sure did?
And in the close out game?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Guess what Jaylen Brown said shot six for twenty two
in the close out game.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Jaylen Brown wasn't six for twenty two. I'm sorry, I
cannot shet it hold out game. I cannot shed a
tear for Jason Tatum not getting minutes over two of
the Mount.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Rushmore players of the era. It's not about minutes. There
are number of minutes. Is that he got no minute.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
So if you played, it's about you would be completely
placated if he had played two minutes, and you could
have found more than two minutes. The point is why
when he's not shooting well? Ye shot well all through
the Eastern Conference playoffs. He didn't shoot well all through
the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Did you watch him beat earlier when they were playing
too If Jason taking up seven feet tall or three
hundre caronds, I could guard Nikolay Yokins, he would have
got in the court, okay, But but that didn't stop
them from starting in bed when we saw how he played,
especially early on when they first were doing the prelims.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Right, do you remember what happened the game after JT
sat out? The first one I'm talking was the PCD
Joel Embiid.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, but I'm talking about you still would find a
way to a player of that ILK and a player
who's going to be the face or of the of
the Olympics going forward. He's a young player who's going
to be that guy. Minute he had taken he couldn't
do five minutes. Minutes tell what you could find minutes
(31:01):
And it feels like the same argument. There's a guy
who's an All Star. You gotta take somebody out. They
can't just play everybody. Is this supposed to be just some.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Honorary doctor eight where you just give it to everybody. Hey, everybody,
everybody can play, Come on, come on down, Tyree's Haliburton.
Everybody last six seven games or whatever in the Olympics,
and nobody lived.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
He didn't win a championship, he wasn't up NBA for
First Team All First Team, the only American on that list.
And that's the guy who can't find any time that
that's the guy that you can't five minutes for, the
guy who's going to be the future of the Olympics.
Who's gonna play in twenty twenty eight? Maybe in Los A.
(31:42):
I wouldn't do it. I would say I'm good, thank
you for this experience.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
This was crappy.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Thanks Steve Kerr, whatever you wanted to do to take
away from what I did all year with the championship.
So that everybody says, hey, while he won a championship
and Steve disrespected them, that that that's what.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
The native is. I can't get that.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
I disagree with the entire premise of being disrespected because
you didn't play again in front of the two people
who are going to walk in day one they're eligible
for them.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
If if they if Fox Sports Radio had an event
in Las Vegas and they flew you out to Las
Vegas and and everybody was there and you didn't get
to do one show, I'm just asking you, okay, everybody
flew everybody out to Las Vegas, or if somewhere for
the for the Super Bowl and you were out there
and not one, not one shot, did they were able
(32:35):
to put you fit you in so that you could
be on the air. You would accept that because you
would say, well, Rob and Chris and and and everybody
else has more experience than me.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
That would be cool for you. I'm asking you, I'm
telling you you would be with them with this. You're
not even Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I'm telling you that when you guys went to Vegas
this year, I had nothing to say because I made
weekend radio host by trade, that's my job. I'm not
one of these guys who was in here five days
a week. We have been in here for five days
a week. Finally brought you up. You brought you out
to Vegas. I would have said, thanks for the trip.
Oh God, please, I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Rob G. You don't even believe.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Let's we were talking about Vegas, g Rob.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
He remembers we had this conversation. Did we not hell?
Did we not know?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Come on?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Come on, Rob? Did we not have Yeah? We actually
had this exact conversation.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
And I said, I was like, man, I really wish
they would bring me out there, But I'm not.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Was I upset about it? Was I crying about it?
Was I scotch fada because you brought up that reason?
The identity brought it up to you. Rob G is
proof post right that he.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Because of otherwise Martin, you wouldn't have mentioned it to
Rob G.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
No, how did you mention it?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Because you you're feeling well, because if you got her,
if you must know, Las Vegas and Las Vegas are
both Rob G's favorite city and favorite movie. So he
was talking about how he's booking for Vegas, booking for
Vegas as if I was coming, and I said no,
but I wasn't, like, oh my god, I can't believe
that the wanton disrespect that I'm feeling right now.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
No, No, I don't feel that way.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Now.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
If if I got called to Vegas and you were off,
and Chris was off, and Jason Smith and Mike Harmon
were off, and Doug Gottlieb couldn't show up, and I'm
just sitting there twiddling my thumbs, I'm like, hey, guys,
you know I could do this too. I'd love to
do it as everybody's gone. Then that'd be a different story.
And that's the story that Jason Tatum will be experiencing
(34:33):
in twenty twenty eight because KD won't be there, likely
Lebron won't be there.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Likely it will be his freeway to drive down Wide opening.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Can go as fast or as slow as he'd like
to because he's gonna be the only one in the
driver's seat.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
That's how it is. But right here, right now, No,
and it was true. It was true. The analogy that
you tried to make. You didn't know it, but it
was a bad one. It's not a bad one. I'm right.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
There's no way you would feel good with if you
were a part of the team and you were a
big player, pact, a big player, you would really think
you would not feel good.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
But we were in Arizona. I was standing right there
the entire time. I came over to the Fox Sports
radio booths every day every day. Yeah, but what you said,
what's up, Steve Cavino, Rich Davis, how you doing? Oh Chris,
great to see man, I haven't seen you in years.
Rob tell him, tell him.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
He did say that.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
He also said, I don't know if you guys know,
but my pictures on the side of the wall right
there were sin sees your sports book.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
There's a big cartoon drawing on me right there. I'm
just saying that I'm also a big deal.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
If you want to get what, you don't know what's
Rob g said, We're not putting them on under any circumstances.
So I did the same, the little Tuesday radio hit
that I've been doing for years, the same little toothday.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
And you know what I did.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I did it with a smile on my face and
told you to take a picture and put it on Instagram.
Why because I was at the super Bowl doing radio,
which was a dream come true for even the ten
minutes I was on
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Martin Weiss, I know you were glued watching the gold
medal game and Steph Curry going off and putting up
threes left and right, and of course my phone was
going crazy from people. What do you think they were
saying to me? Martin, I already know what.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
They were saying, what they say, and I'm I just
want you to know preemptively. I'm disappointed in you for
this one, Rob disappointed.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Don't don't. I'm not mad. Don't give up. I'm not mad. No,
I'm just disappointed. I know what they were. They were
sending you all types of clips. Oh, you see Steph
Curry boom boom, boom boom, with the layup of Devin
Booker in between. You see Stephen Curry.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
He's led in the United States against the French gold medal.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
How do you say that in French? Who knows?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Holly vou fonsai we we. I don't think that's gold medal. No,
that's not gold medal. But that's a little French right there.
And yes, ho ho h. But anyway, the overwhelming text
that came through on my phone was.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
I told you Steph was clutch. Tell me that's not clutch.
Steph is clutch.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Because I'm the one honest voice in America who says
he can't be the greatest shooter of all time because
he doesn't make clutch shots.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
He's over for fourteen.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
When he has a chance to tie or put his
team ahead in the final twenty thirty second twenty seconds
of a game postseason Sea, he's.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Never made one of those shots.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
If you're gonna be the greatest shooter of all time,
you gotta make those shots. And I'm here to tell
you on this Magic City Monday that Steph Curry, while
making big shots, Martin Weiss did not make any clutch
shots in helping the United States win goal.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
All right.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
The score during Steph's last four to three pointers, the
United States was up by three they were up by six,
they were up by six, and they were up by six,
So that means three of those shots, of those last
four threes he made that it was already a two
possession game. That's what makes something clutch. It's when you
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hit a home run in the bottom of the ninth, Martin,
and your team is down a run and you win
the game, or you tie the game in the bottom
of the ninth and send it to extra innings.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
That's what clutches. Did he make big shots?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yes, but your definition, and if people think he made
clutch shots, you can't be more wrong. It's not clutch,
big shots, a barrage, whatever you want to call it,
it ain't clutch if it's a two possession game.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
It's that simple, all right, Merriam Webster.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Since you want to talk about the definition of clutch,
I don't know what else you would call it.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
As France was walking the.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
United States down and Steph Curry was the only one
hitting them with the stiff form on the way out,
that's the way.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
That's basically what that was for.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
You said they were down three, were up three, up six,
up six, and then up nine six.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Do you know why they were up six because Steph
Curry's the one hitting jump shots.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
That's the reason why they were up all these Steph
Curry had an all time performance in the last two
games of the Olympics, the semi finals and the finals.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
In without that fourth quarter victor.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Win, Benyama and crew are holding the gold medal out
of Steph Curry. If you wanted to say, oh, Steph
can't do it unless he's got an all star team
around him. Oh if Steph can't do it in the NBA,
Oh Steph can't do all right, I'm here for that.
But you can't tell me that what we saw in
this gold medal game was not clutch. Look was he
(04:10):
The reason why the score was what it was was
because of him hitting clutch shot after clutch. No, you
got it wrong, including big shot including Bill Ower, he
was double teamed on an all time heater looked off.
Lebron James and Kevin Durant, two of the mount rushmore
NBA players of this era, looked them off and said audios.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
However you say it in French. He made big shots,
not clutch shots. Ray Allen shot for the Miami Heat.
That's a clutch shot. If he misses that. When Michael
Jordan made a shot over Craig Elaw I covered that game.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Okay, If Michael.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Jordan misses that shot, the Chicago Bulls go home and
the series is over, that's a clutch shot. If Ray
Allen misses that shot, Lebron James doesn't have four Championshi GIFs.
He has three, and his legacy is totally different, that's
a clutch shot. What stuff made were big shots, but
they weren't clutch. Just understand is a difference in the
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definition of what's clutched Martin and what's big. Did he
make big shots? Yes, he did, They're not clutch. None
of those baskets were the reasons why they were up
by six to make a three because three No, I'm
talking about those.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Four threes at the end, all right, But those are the.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Ones that were three Why because he hit a three?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
No? Up by six, why because he hit a three?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
No, But we're talking about when they went from six
to nine, and those last ones.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Those don't happen unless he hit the first two.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
What it's not. It's not clutch, dude, it's not clutch.
The game wasn't in the ballance. Would you say ray
Allen shot was clutch. Would you call it a clutch
shot or not? I was at the shot you're discussing today.
That's the big clutch. That shot that ray Allen made.
We got on there for ten minutes. Every shot you've
named that has been a clutch shot. That shot that
ray Allen made. It the same as the ones that
Stuff made in the in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No't, I'm responding to you. The difference was those were
in the series. This is the one game knockout, but
that was for the series. That was a one game.
When they played six games, they would make Miami could
have took care of one game that forty minutes for
the for the respect of your country because you was
(06:27):
an elimination game.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
What are you talking about ray Allen shot? You're gonna
tell me that that was the same shot of the
four that Stuff made on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
No, I'm telling you is all of those shots are.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Clutched, the all of Michael Jordan made that shot over
Craig elas same shot that Stuff made. Again, you keep
naming other clutch shots to compare it to these clutcht
I agree with.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
You a little bit. To make it any less clutch
you got depth didn't make any clutch shots.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
You want to talk about all of those seas, You
want to talking about all those themes Lebron this, Michael Jordan,
that they can lose.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
You know what Team USA can't do.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
They can't even win ugly without being excoriated by from
Seed to signing Sea.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
From Maine all the way to Arizona.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
They were gonna be talking about how Team USA choked,
Steve Curves the worst, Lebron this KD that Lebron's all
of the different jokes that would be flying out of
this scenario had Steph Curry not said, you know what,
hold on a second, Draymond Green, don't you worry about me.
I'm gonna come in here and knock this thing out,
(07:35):
take this thing home.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
And it was a story.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Not too long ago that was out and it's funny
and that we look at this story and it's from
one of Steph's teammates, Andre Iguodalwa and Andrea Goodower. This
wasn't five years ago. This was recently was asked if
he had to pick uh someone to make a big
(08:03):
basket to win a game, did he play with Steph
Curry not Yes, not nod Ago. Did he had he
play with Steph Curry. Andre Gudow, Yes, Rob. We all
watched the finals, Okay, like come on when he won
the MVP over Steph the first championship they won. But anyway,
(08:23):
holding lebron to forty and guess what he picked, And
guess what we picked Kiwie Irving, not Steph Curry as
the guy he would want to make a shot in
a clutch moment.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
You know what the team.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
He made he was doing two days This is somebody
who watched close days ago, just like every other dad
in America. He was standing at the TV shouting, shoot
it again, shoot it again. When he passed it to
Kevin Durant right there on that double team, and Katie
passed it right back. Andre Gordala stood up and clapped
his hands and said, yes, doing to him again, be
(08:58):
doing to him again, Steph doing to him?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Get Steph.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Kyrie was watching it just like Andrea Goodala was. I
don't even know when that quote is from, and honestly
don't really.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Care it was.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
It was why to change the fact it was from
February twenty nine to twenty twenty four, so it was
this year, not five years.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Hold on, and the quote is Kyrie Irving. It's not
even close. It's not even close. It's the only thing.
And that is why. Because Steph Curry's oh for fourteen
and anybody who's watched his career and is not just
a fanboy who has honestly watched his career in spots
where he needed to make a shot to help his
(09:36):
team win, he's missed those shots, except he's the game, which.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Is why people are saying it's the biggest shots he's
hit in his career. That's like, your argument makes sense
if you, oh, Steph can't hit big shots when he's
got if he doesn't have a Hall of Famer surrounding it,
Steph can't hit big shots in the NBA. The idea
that those weren't big shots in the Gold.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Medal guess by what I said, please do nothing the
most watched I'm saying, if you said.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
That, send their big shots to not clutch shots, they're
bull right, No they're not.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
They're both.
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Speaker 3 (11:00):
Preseason games are underway, as we know, not very exciting
for the most part, but they are. You know, you
gotta get the work in. Justin Fields had a pretty
pretty good start there for the Steelers, except for he
had a couple of fumbles which didn't go over well
with his coach. Can't turn the ball over, you know
that he's a big turnover machine. But anyway, Justin Fields,
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Russell Wilson, they're both there. People who thought it's gonna
be all about Russell Wilson, and then all of a
sudden they make a trade. They get Justin Fields for nothing,
absolutely nothing. But he's on the team. He's a young guy,
got a lot of ups start, and Martin Weis thinks
he should be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
You're all in on Justin Field?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, I mean, well, to say I'm all in makes
it seem like I'm betting that it'll work. But if
you have the options, though, I mean, let's be honest,
neither one of these are great options, right, So have
an asparagus or broccoli, you know both neither Your third
grader's not gonna like either one. But if I have
to make the choice between these two guys, like the
Steelers have to do to me, the answer is clearly
far away Justin Fields. If for no other reason, he's younger,
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he's more athletic, and if he hits you have a
franchise quarterback. Russell Wilson can go out there and play
the season of his life, his best season he's ever played.
And you know you got at most two more seasons
out of him, three more seasons out of them.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Justin Field's go out.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
There and you figure out a way to tap into
some of the potential that everybody saw leading up into
this draft or leading up into his draft class where
he was picked. Then you actually have a shot to
have a guy for the next five six years that
can lead your team. And when you look at a
guy like justin Fields, no one is saying, Look, especially
with what the Steelers are trying to do.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
You go with Arthur Smith. He's gonna want to run
the ball.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Is gonna be a lot of play afts, It's gonna
be a lot of bootlegs, is gonna be a lot
of things where it really helps to have athletic quarterback.
And Russell Wilson just strains his cat pushing the tackling sled.
Should he have been pushing a tackling sled, of course not,
He's a quarterback. When's the last time he saw Russell
Wilson on the lead block. I'll answer for you it's never.
But the reality of the situation is we look at
Russell Wilson and he graduated from high school the same year.
(13:04):
I ain't got no business being an NFL quarterbacks. Honestly,
if you look at the last two seasons he had
in Denver, he don't look like he had any business.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Being an NFL. Play played pretty well. Play He played
so well that Sean Payton, the guy who.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Knows Payton hated him before he got He hated him
before he.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
No, he's won one super Bowl with the Hall of
Fame quarterback A quarterbacks or no he had yeah, Sean Payton,
No nothing about quarterbas four losing season the Hall of
Fame quarterbacks. So you're not you're telling me Sean Payton
does not it's not a good at quarterbacking valuation.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
All I'm telling you is that you're giving him way
too much credit. And what he did to Russell Wilson
was ridiculous, unprofessional, and he hated him.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
From the minute he walked to the door. He played
well last year.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Stop stop, No, Russell Wilson, he under what metrics? Besides
he played in the sub ratio? Did he play played
well last He was trying not to know the idea
that Russell Wilson played well. First of all, it's the fallacy.
But I'm gonna leave that there. You're telling me that
Sean Payton don't know what he's doing when he comes quarterback.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Oh, I just told you.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
They have four losing seasons with a a what a
Hall of Fame quarterback? Didn't they they were seven and nine,
like four years they won one Super Bowl under that.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Everybody, everybody says Mike McCarthy's no good. Mike McCarthy and
Sean Payton.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Go look at their they're identical, their records almost I have.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Never said a guy who won thirty six games in
the last three years is no good. But a lot
of people don't respect Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I respect both. They both know.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
And you look at Mike McCarthy with Dak Prescott. Dak
Prescott was running up for m VP this year. I
think he knows the thing or two about.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Quarterback runner up and he only got there was no
one first place vote?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Is that it? Would you call that runner?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yeah, that's what happened. You come in second, you're the runner.
Und I don't think it's.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
A real runner up when the other guy got almost
all white.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Literally by definition, mister, the definition of clutches day.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
If you're coming second, you're the runner up. All right,
that's just the way it works. If we can establish that.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Fact that maybe we can told you a million times loud,
doesn't make you right but quiet doesn't make you right either.
Sean Payton was so ready to move on from Russell
Wilson he spent eighty five million dollars to send him away,
to send him away, like right, Like what more do
you need? Like?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
That is it? People make mistakes?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Do front office? People make mistakes on people? Yeah, the
mistake was training for Russell Wilson. No, what the mistake
was the thing?
Speaker 5 (15:29):
You're fanning all over Justin Fields? Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Since joining the league in twenty twenty one, Field's is
last among thirty eight qualified quarterbacks and fourth quarter interceptions.
That's sixteen, thirty six in completion percentage fifty six point two,
and thirty third in quarterback when this is the guy
you got your panties in a bunch over last season.
Through week seventeen before players started the rest. For Week eighteen,
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Fields rank last in the NFL fourth quarter please in
percentage fifty one point eight, twenty fifth in yards per
temp five point nine, tied for twenty ninth and fourth
quarter interception six, and thirtieth in QBR twenty point four?
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Was that that's your guy? Who is that? About? Week seven?
That's your guy?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Justin Field that's your guyding In week seventeen, Russell Wilson
was banished through the dog on bench. But that's your guy.
You're making a big, your big stink about like guy
stan Field. Like I said, if I had to choose
either one of them, I'd rather neither. But force with
this decision. Asparagus or broccoli, give me the broccoli. That
Justin Field, who's going to be the starting quarterback on
that team? Martin, wife, you can see here all day
(16:35):
and talk about what you want. I'm asking you Justin Field.
He's not going to be the starting quarter Justin Fields
will be the Justin Field will start for games this season.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
The Russell will.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Wandn't ask you that. Who's going to be the starting
quarterback of this season? Just Ston Field is what I
just start the season. Justin Field?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I mean, anybody who's the start of Week one? I'm
talk about who's the starter all? He's going to be
the starting quarterback when the season starts? When week starting
quarter I'm asking the fielders next year, then I'm asking
you who's the starting quarterback of the Pittsbirsts next?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Russell Wilson, stop it, Russell will stop it. He's gonna
play two years there. Justin Fields is a turnover machine.
That's why he's not with the Bears. The players tried
to convince us, oh, don't trade Justin Field. Oh my god,
look at Ormans. Butthet you and you didn't have anybody
around him. They couldn't get him out of town fast enough.
They could not get it, and look.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Like that opportunity to replaces they traded for him.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Nobody wanted Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Everybody needs a quarterback, so half the league needs a quarterback.
We got nothing for him, zero so they actually so
actually that's not true because they traded a sixth round
pick that could turn it towards sex round pick. Remind me,
Remind me of six round pick them to be a
franchise quarterback. Remind me, though, what was the deal for
Russell Wilson? He comes with a big contract.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
What was about Field? What was the deal for Russell
Wilson Field? I'm a what was the deal for Russell Wilson?
Because I'll tell you what the deal was for Russell Wilson.
If you don't want to listen, I'll tell.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
You what it was. This is what it was. Anybody
in the NFL could have signed him.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Anybody in the NFL could have signed him, And the
Pittsburgh Steelers are paying him less than the Detroit Lions
are playing Hendon Hooker right now.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Anybody in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Because the massive bidding war for Russell Wilson never hap.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
He got his money. He already got money. But I'm
talking about what I'm saying, it's already paid. What are
you talking about?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So he could have taken he could have taken more
money to go elsewhere?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Why money that was already set differ?
Speaker 4 (18:35):
So would you rather have eighty six million dollars coming
to you or eighty nine million dollars coming to you?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
That's why what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I'm talking about that nobody else in the NFL wanted
to offer Russell Wilson a contract of note, which is
why the Pittsburgh Steelers are paying him less than half
the backups in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
This.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, but nobody would have to nobody in their right mind,
why he already he's getting his money.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Because if there was because if there was a bidding
war for his service, war, if there was a bidding
war for his services, right, if people actually had to
give anything up for him. No one was willing to
do it. The New York Giants were not willing to
do it. What's the age.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Difference between Russell Wilson and your guy Justin Fields, your
messiah at least eleven years.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I'm not saying Field just you keep you keep, No
he juel Messiah.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
I'm not saying I had never once said that.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
When I'm telling you, they couldn't even get more young
player who still hasn't even scratched the surface. Probably got
more there, right, maybe, but nobody wanted to take a
flyer on a young quarterback who was supposed to be
a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
They got a sixth round draft pick. Yes, six round
picks start in this league all the time. It's a
sixth round pick that could turn into a fourth thron
pick depending on how much he plays. That is a
tangible item, that is a thing, that is a thing.
You can't just poo pull a sixth round pick. You know,
the Chicago may have drafted the next Tom Brady with
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that sixth round.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
And here's the other reason why you already know why
teams wouldn't do that, Because it's the offsetting contract, and
no team is gonna help the Bronco. So if you
signed him, the more money that's gonna offset the money
from the Bronco.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
So you're not gonna help the Bronco. Who cares about
helping the Broncos about helping yourself?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
You don't. You don't do it.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
That's the problem with his time of Fucan saw Russell Wilson,
who was a healthy at the end of the year
and said, you know what, Kirk Cousins, I'd rather give
you one hundred million dollars guaranteed third a year older
with no achilles tendon.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
He was a free agent. Though, what are you talking about?
Russell Wilson was a free agent to me? What he
got Nobody had money coming to him. Oh what, No,
there's a big difference. No, that's a big there's an
offsetting contract. Sure, but you can't even put the off
setting contract.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yes I can, you can.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
You can't reason why it's eighty five million coming from
denver is because the Pittsburgh Steelers were the only team
willing to offer him any money, and the only money
they were willing to offer was just over a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
So why did they just go after Justin Fields? Was
available before Russell Wilson he was, he was, he wasn't.
He was available fundamentally, that's not available.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Why because he.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Were going to take Caleb Williams. Everybody in Chicago knew it.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
But he wasn't. Why wasn't he available? Mark, because what Russell.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Wilson got bench the season was still going on to
Justin Fields to the start quarterback.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
No, but I'm talking about what in the off season.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
In the off season, Russell Wilson was the most available
free agent that possibly could have been. And I tell
you not a with eighty six million that ain't that
ain't a free agent.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
You're trying to act like.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
That, changing the definitions, not making any less true. Yes,
because of Russell Wilson was released by the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Why he was released because they couldn't find a trade
partner after he was only going to trade.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Nor would they do that. Why would anybody in their
right mind? Nobody wanted him?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Okay, nobody saw he's at the Pittsburgh Steelers as a
starting quarterback.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
He shouldn't be, No, but he is. That's the point. No,
But what what you want? You starting quarters?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
August twelve, nobody wanted him, but the Pittsburgh Steelers went
now made a miss staring quarterback?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Correct? I went on, did they yes or no? Answer
the question, no, they didn't. They did? They did it.
Week one has not happened yet.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
There is no starting quarterback for the Russell Wilson is
number one of the depth chart in August. Sam Darnold's
number one in the depth tart Right now, do you
think J. J. McCarthy's not gonna get snaps like this?
What are you talking like? Jackson the whole game. I
haven't seen JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
We have seen Justin Fields, and we've seen seeing the
turnovers Martin, We've.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Seen that's the contract for a backup DEAs Why nobody,
That's why nobody wanted Justin Field.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Nobody went out explain Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
No, but but, but there's a difference between the two
one guys and older quarterback at the back end of
his career. Justin Fields a young guy, maybe potential. Everybody's
looking for a quarterback. The problem is the only time
we watch highlights is of him running around, not throwing
the football. That's why people haven't bought into him.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Well, Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos bought eighty five
million dollars into the idea that Russell Wilson Key Carr
would stop working at the Denver Broncos, and the rest
of the league could have gotten him for that same number.
The rest of the league could have gotten it for
that same contract. All these different quarterback scenarios could have
got him.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
For the deal.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
They don't make any said, nobody's gonna go out and
give him eighty five million.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
No one has to how about this? How about this?
How about they go out and give him three million.
You don't have to do that. How about you go
I give him three million. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Nobody wanted to even triple what the Steelers willing to pay,
which was just over a million dollars.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Nobody will want you.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
He's gonna get eighty five Why do I need to
give him any money? Because you need to start a quarterbacks.
The Steelers needed a starting quarterback and they got him.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
So did the Giants. Okay, what did the Giants do?
The guy? Giants got a guy on the hook. That's
all right.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
The Giants have been making mistakes when they signed Daniel
Jones to forty million dollars, and then they're gonna make
another mistake by going ahead and trying to prove that
Daniel joneses that got.
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Speaker 3 (24:11):
Let's do some NBA, and let's do the Final Hour.
And Jason Tatum, right, and Jalen Brown, especially Jason Tatum, what.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Would you consider his experience?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Like?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Of course, the first things that they were asking him.
Of course, he won the gold medal. That should be good, right, excited,
But he got bench two games, he didn't play in two
of the eight games, disappointed NBA, All NBA First Team
and didn't play in two games or whatever. And so
the first question, naturally, is would that deter you from
(24:49):
wanting to play in the next Olympics in twenty twenty
eight because your experience.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Was so bad?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Instead of people like saying, wow, what a year for
Jason Tatum. You know, he won the NBA Finals, finally
got off the snide, won a championship and now you
gotta go medal. What a year he's having. People are like,
why is he being disrespected? Why is he not being played?
What's wrong with Steve Kerr? People coming to his defense,
his mom, Bob Coozy, all kinds of people, Dick Vtel
(25:22):
all mad at Steve Kerr and what he went through.
As far as Jason Tatum, where are you on that?
And of course Jayleen Brown didn't even get invited. Three
of his teammates are there. This guy was the finals
MVP and Martin he didn't even get invited to go play.
Would you want to participate in twenty twenty eight? Because
(25:45):
I'm telling you I can get grimy and hold a
grudge like anybody else. And if I'm Jason Tatum, I
say thank you going forward, but no thank I got
my goal medal. I'm good after the way you disrespect him,
after the way I mean to not play me in
two games? Seriously, And you talk about Rob g the
(26:08):
list of first Team All NBA, wasn't Jason Tatum the
only American on that list, the only American on that list,
and he not playing in the In the Olympics, there's
two games where you can't find a spot for Jason
Tatum to play.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
So was he supposed to get sympathy minutes or so,
like it would you have like Jason Tatum could be
playing period, he should be playing because all finals. The
conversation was, why is it Jason Tatum playing better? Right
then he comes out closing the Olympics, does it? I
mean he's playing fine, he's playing okay, But yeah, I'm sorry,
jayt you might have to sit the bench when Lebron
(26:47):
and Kevin Durant are the two wings that are starting
in front of you, you might.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Just have It's not about starting, it's about playing. The
guy guy started one game.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
This, how does he not play two games? Martin?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Come on, Articularly, nobody is playing in a one off
game like the Olympics are are not necessarily when there's
no back to backs, there's no travel, and the rest
is kind of structured in nobody's saying taking Jason Tatum
over Lebron or Kevin Durant. Now, over the span of
an eighty two game season, that's a different story.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Over the span of.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
The NBA, all the people have made us think they're
just making this up.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
They gotta have some people gotta have something. Especially this
is what this is, what it is. This is the
team USA basketball. It's very much like when Nick Saban
was coaching Alabama or some of That's really what it is.
It's a college football team. In terms of disrespect. It's
not about winning. It's about how much you went by
how it looks when you win. They almost lost the
(27:44):
South to dan in an exhibition game, and people are
losing their minds, myself included. Everybody's gonna nitpick about one
little thing when you're behind Lebron James, who is one
of the best basketball players that we've ever seen, and
behind Kevin Durant, who unequivocally is the Olympic leadings scorer. Yeah,
maybe JT is not gonna get enough good to get
the same playing time that.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You think nobody asked for the same playing time, but
not to play.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It's outrageous. It's outrageous.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
You're not talking about Martin what amount of minutes or
he's counting the minutes and saying, oh, the minutes are
on up to par whatever. That's not exactly what we're
talking about played.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
If Jason played him at played ten minutes combined in
the last three games of the Olympics, we won't be
talking about it.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Not no, not the same way that he had a
d MP twice. So if he had so, if he
had played two and a half minutes, he should the game.
In the last two games Steve Kerr would be talking about.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Could have found minutes for him. But why though, why
out of respect? Out of respect?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
You know what Jason Tator finished from the floor in
jump shots in the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Oh for sixteen? Oh for sixteen? And what does that mean?
It means, I mean what play. It means he was
not playing well enough to justify It's just that.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Lebron Jays and Kevin Durant And this is not a
hot take, like everybody just needed something to complain about.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
And that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
He's one of the best players in the NBA. He
just led his team to an NBA championship.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Did it because.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Jalen Brown got the Dyalen Brown got the MVP Trophy
all times they were available, Okay?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
And who who was the leading school, who had who
had who was the leading scorer, who had the most rebound?
You want to go look at the stats. I want
to go look at the ship. I don't have to
look like so who let it? Who let an all category.
Did Jason who let in all categories? I'll ask did
he play well?
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Did he play well in the final? He sure did?
And in the close out game?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Guess what Jaylen Brown said shot six for twenty two
in the close out game.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Jaylen Brown wasn't six for twenty two. I'm sorry, I
cannot shet it hold out game. I cannot shed a
tear for Jason Tatum not getting minutes over two of
the Mount.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Rushmore players of the era. It's not about minutes. There
are number of minutes. Is that he got no minute.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
So if you played, it's about you would be completely
placated if he had played two minutes, and you could
have found more than two minutes. The point is why
when he's not shooting well? Ye shot well all through
the Eastern Conference playoffs. He didn't shoot well all through
the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Did you watch him beat earlier when they were playing
too If Jason taking up seven feet tall or three
hundre caronds, I could guard Nikolay Yokins, he would have
got in the court, okay, But but that didn't stop
them from starting in bed when we saw how he played,
especially early on when they first were doing the prelims.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Right, do you remember what happened the game after JT
sat out? The first one I'm talking was the PCD
Joel Embiid.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, but I'm talking about you still would find a
way to a player of that ILK and a player
who's going to be the face or of the of
the Olympics going forward. He's a young player who's going
to be that guy. Minute he had taken he couldn't
do five minutes. Minutes tell what you could find minutes
(31:01):
And it feels like the same argument. There's a guy
who's an All Star. You gotta take somebody out. They
can't just play everybody. Is this supposed to be just some.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Honorary doctor eight where you just give it to everybody. Hey, everybody,
everybody can play, Come on, come on down, Tyree's Haliburton.
Everybody last six seven games or whatever in the Olympics,
and nobody lived.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
He didn't win a championship, he wasn't up NBA for
First Team All First Team, the only American on that list.
And that's the guy who can't find any time that
that's the guy that you can't five minutes for, the
guy who's going to be the future of the Olympics.
Who's gonna play in twenty twenty eight? Maybe in Los A.
(31:42):
I wouldn't do it. I would say I'm good, thank
you for this experience.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
This was crappy.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Thanks Steve Kerr, whatever you wanted to do to take
away from what I did all year with the championship.
So that everybody says, hey, while he won a championship
and Steve disrespected them, that that that's what.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
The native is. I can't get that.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
I disagree with the entire premise of being disrespected because
you didn't play again in front of the two people
who are going to walk in day one they're eligible
for them.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
If if they if Fox Sports Radio had an event
in Las Vegas and they flew you out to Las
Vegas and and everybody was there and you didn't get
to do one show, I'm just asking you, okay, everybody
flew everybody out to Las Vegas, or if somewhere for
the for the Super Bowl and you were out there
and not one, not one shot, did they were able
(32:35):
to put you fit you in so that you could
be on the air. You would accept that because you
would say, well, Rob and Chris and and and everybody
else has more experience than me.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
That would be cool for you. I'm asking you, I'm
telling you you would be with them with this. You're
not even Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I'm telling you that when you guys went to Vegas
this year, I had nothing to say because I made
weekend radio host by trade, that's my job. I'm not
one of these guys who was in here five days
a week. We have been in here for five days
a week. Finally brought you up. You brought you out
to Vegas. I would have said, thanks for the trip.
Oh God, please, I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Rob G. You don't even believe.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Let's we were talking about Vegas, g Rob.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
He remembers we had this conversation. Did we not hell?
Did we not know?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Come on?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Come on, Rob? Did we not have Yeah? We actually
had this exact conversation.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
And I said, I was like, man, I really wish
they would bring me out there, But I'm not.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
Was I upset about it? Was I crying about it?
Was I scotch fada because you brought up that reason?
The identity brought it up to you. Rob G is
proof post right that he.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Because of otherwise Martin, you wouldn't have mentioned it to
Rob G.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
No, how did you mention it?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Because you you're feeling well, because if you got her,
if you must know, Las Vegas and Las Vegas are
both Rob G's favorite city and favorite movie. So he
was talking about how he's booking for Vegas, booking for
Vegas as if I was coming, and I said no,
but I wasn't, like, oh my god, I can't believe
that the wanton disrespect that I'm feeling right now.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
No, No, I don't feel that way.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Now.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
If if I got called to Vegas and you were off,
and Chris was off, and Jason Smith and Mike Harmon
were off, and Doug Gottlieb couldn't show up, and I'm
just sitting there twiddling my thumbs, I'm like, hey, guys,
you know I could do this too. I'd love to
do it as everybody's gone. Then that'd be a different story.
And that's the story that Jason Tatum will be experiencing
(34:33):
in twenty twenty eight because KD won't be there, likely
Lebron won't be there.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Likely it will be his freeway to drive down Wide opening.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Can go as fast or as slow as he'd like
to because he's gonna be the only one in the
driver's seat.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
That's how it is. But right here, right now, No,
and it was true. It was true. The analogy that
you tried to make. You didn't know it, but it
was a bad one. It's not a bad one. I'm right.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
There's no way you would feel good with if you
were a part of the team and you were a
big player, pact, a big player, you would really think
you would not feel good.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
But we were in Arizona. I was standing right there
the entire time. I came over to the Fox Sports
radio booths every day every day. Yeah, but what you said,
what's up, Steve Cavino, Rich Davis, how you doing? Oh Chris,
great to see man, I haven't seen you in years.
Rob tell him, tell him.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
He did say that.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
He also said, I don't know if you guys know,
but my pictures on the side of the wall right
there were sin sees your sports book.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
There's a big cartoon drawing on me right there. I'm
just saying that I'm also a big deal.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
If you want to get what, you don't know what's
Rob g said, We're not putting them on under any circumstances.
So I did the same, the little Tuesday radio hit
that I've been doing for years, the same little toothday.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
And you know what I did.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I did it with a smile on my face and
told you to take a picture and put it on Instagram.
Why because I was at the super Bowl doing radio,
which was a dream come true for even the ten
minutes I was on
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