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Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm always one of those guys that get people worked
up because I give him a different slant on stuff.
I didn't trash Steph Curry and say he was garbage,
or that his performance in the gold medal game was
terrible or whatever.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
He made those four to threes at the end.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I simply stated fact facts factz. Where I went to school.
That's how we spell facts, Okay, And guys like Gilbert
Loreeniz and Doug Gottlieb all got their panties in a
bunch because they don't know what the definition of clutch is.
(01:09):
You look at the shots he made and I said
they were big shots. Brian, No, they were big shots, right.
But it's not about this isn't Rob a pedia. This
is the NBA, they deem what is a clutch shot?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Their own definition?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Are you ready, Brian, I'm ready for it. Yeah, hit
me with it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
The NBA defines clutch as under five minutes.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Score within five.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Only one of those three pointers fit that category. The
other three they were up by six, you know what
I mean, Like it was a big shot.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But clutch to me.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Is Aaron Judge hitting a two run home run in
the bottom night when you're down by one.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That's clutch tying the game.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Ray Allen for the Miami Heat right when he tied
the game, because sending an overtime, that's a clutch shot.
That's all I'm saying. People are so defensive. If you
say anything against Steph. I've talked to plenty of NBA players.
(02:26):
I say, if you only had a chance to get well,
you know, you have to get one basket to win
the game, who would you give the ball to. Nobody
picks Steph? Nobody. And the numbers, Brian are very obvious.
He's oh for fourteen in the final fifty seconds with
a chance to tie or put his team ahead. Oh
for fourteen in the postseason. I'm not talking about regular
(02:48):
season games. In there I'm talking about postseason. It's hard
for me to look at a guy and call him
clutch or the greatest shooter of all time when he
hasn't made those baskets.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Does he have to be fourteen for fourteen? No, but
oh for fourteen is pretty small.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It tells me when the moment's big and the lights
are bright, like a hamburger on one of those fast
food restaurants with the lamp on it or whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
He wilts or he doesn't come through.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
That's all man, Okay, Rob, So here's the thing. I'll
give you credit because you have found a technicality in
the ointment. I don't know if that's a new technicality
in the ointment, right, number flies, we have technicalities in
the ointment because yes, if we're talking about the actual definition, yeah,
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only one of those shots were deemed clutch right where
we're talking about under five minutes, score within five points.
Only one of those four to three pointers by Steph
at the end against France was a quote unquote clutch shot.
So like, there's no arguing with that. And you said
at the very beginning, and this was an important point
(04:09):
by you, you said those were big shots, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm not trying to belittle them or say like he
didn't do anything. They're big shots, Brian, I would be
lying if I say they weren't big shots. You know,
to make a six point game a nine point game
and that at that time, I get it.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Yeah, And that last three while doubled and fading away
was just insane. So to string four of those together
in a row, and the French commentators are calling him
the devil, you know, like that was pretty special, man.
That was a signature moment the night night, the whole thing.
(04:46):
That was Steph Curry on the heels of what he
did against Serbia. Thirty six points and nine three pointers.
He was sensational the last two games. But that's the thing, Rob,
I feel like, this is the difference between reading the
headline and then reading the column. Like your headline of
Steph Curry's shots weren't clutch, It's.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Like, what what what are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
And then you read the column and you're like, I
see what you're saying, And technically only one of those
shots was the definition of clutch. You're not wrong with
the argument, but the headline catches your attention and people
assume you're saying something that you're not right, And it.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Ain't even my definition, Brian, you know, like that's the
big thing. That's what the NBA in their own bylaws
or rules or whatever, what they consider clutch. That that
that's what it is. I always say that, even Brian.
I'll look at shots. Okay, if the game is tied,
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you have the ball right, the clock is running down,
that's not a clutch shot to me. And I'm gonna
tell you, because you don't lose, there's no pressure on you.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
You know, make or miss. We're going to overtime. Am
I right?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Like, Like I'm not saying that it's not a difficult
shot or it's a great shot if you can make it,
but it ain't the same when you're down a point
and if you miss, the game is over or your
team's out of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I don't care what anybody says. It ain't the same shot.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
It would be like, let's throw it to football. The
first thing that came to my mind was when the
Giants were facing the undefeated Patriots and they're down by
four points.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
That has to be a touchdown drive.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
That's the only way playing is simple, right, right, So
if you're talking about Hey, we're down by one, we're
down by two.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
You mentioned the Ray Allen shot. If he misses that finals.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Over and maybe changes Lebron's whole legacy.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I mean, that's how big that shot was.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
It's a different type of pressure if you're even and
this is a last second shot, buzzer beater. I still
think there's pressure with that, But to your point, it's
not the same pressure as do or die, like you
gotta make this or the dream is dead.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
No, it's a it's a it's a big shot. I'm
not saying like even when Kyrie made the three to
beat the Warriors the score was tied, it's a big shot,
great comeback. No teammate ever come back from a three
to one deficit, like a lot of things there on
the road Game seven. But but it was a big shot.
(07:27):
It was it was a big shot. There was no
doubt about it. So I'm not saying they weren't big shots.
You just talked about it was a moment in Steph's career.
But all these guys who get worked up and think
like I'm the Antike and the anti Christ and I
hate Steph Curry, like I don't know Steph Curry. I
have no reason to hate Steph Curry. Everything this guy
(07:51):
exudes is positive, it's fun. What is there to hate
about Steph Curry. I'm sorry. Everybody doesn't have to be
on the Steph Curry bandwagon for it to be you
know what I mean, for people to feel good about themselves.
I'm just telling you when you talk about calling somebody
the greatest of all time, and I brought up his
(08:12):
name a million times, right, Marvel Levy, the coach of
the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Do you know why he's.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Never mentioned in the conversation of greatest coaches of all time?
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Because the years oh for four in the Super Bowl
he never won.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, I mean like that, And that's the reason we
know he was a great coach, don't we.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But nobody will.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Consider him the greatest coach of all time because when
it really mattered, nobody said, well, he went to he
won the AFC four years in a row. No, when
it really mattered, his team lost, and so people say, heah,
he had a really good career or whatever. But nobody
is going to put him in that category because it's
about that. It's not about getting to the front door
(08:57):
of the Playboy mansion. It's about in Brian No I
won in Yeah, no, I hear.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I just love that some people go straight to calling
you the anti christ. I just like, totally, my goodness, gracious,
But yeah, listen, I think it's important for people to
understand you're not saying these weren't big shots. You aren't
saying he didn't come up huge in the last two games,
which he did. You go back to the game against Serbia.
The biggest little uh, the biggest sequence in that game,
(09:29):
Serbia was up by two and they had a wide
open three point shot and they missed it. They could
have gone up by five, and who hit the three
to take the lead, Steph Curry with just over a
couple of minutes to go. Huge shot, clutch shot there
by definition. But yeah, when you're talking about this with France,
those were signature moments for Steph in those two games.
(09:50):
And I love, man, I love how you see these
these cracks, these little openings, you know, to needle.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
And it, and you're technically right that it's the beauty
of the.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Whole thing technically, except when it comes to Gilbert A.
Reenas who I guess my new arch enemy, I guess,
But check out. Gilbert a Reena is trying to create
his own definition of clutch.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Listen to this.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I think it's how Steph got the gold is more
important than just the metal itself. Right. He showed on
the highest level he's clutch, right, and not the media's
version of clutch.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Right.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Not the media's version of you know, hitting shots with
three seconds laugh and you know, whatever metrics that they
came up with to make themselves sound smarter.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Not that clutch.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Basketball clutch right where we're in the middle of a
back and forth. Every shot I take now is pressured, right.
Every shot you take now you're trying to win, and
I'm trying to keep you at bay. So every shot
those last four shots were pressure shots because if he
(11:02):
misses them, it's a different game, right, And people don't understand,
Like if you never played the game, you don't understand
what real.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
What real clutch is.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yeah, the moment in time, every shot he took was
a shot to seal it, put it away, keep him
at bay, right, And that's what that moment was.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't know rob so he came up with that's
I guess that's basketball clutch. And I guess the people
at the NBA who wrote the what a clutch shot is?
I guess they don't know basketball, and that's always the
crutch for all these guys. You put a microphone in
front of them and they're going to tell you, right,
some other story different from others. I'm sorry, Yes, I
(11:49):
didn't play in the NBA. But guess what, Gilbert Areena is.
You didn't go to journalism school, you didn't graduate from Columbia,
you have a podcast, you're not on a radio.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Network on four hundreds around the country, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But you can make up basketball clutch and talk about
a shot in the first half and say that was
a clutch shot when the NBA itself deemed it in
the last five minutes.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Not Rob Parker.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So he says, Oh, if you haven't played well, you
came up with the NBA, not Rob Parker.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Go look it up, Gilbert.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Ritas the NBA has defined what clutch is.
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Speaker 1 (13:22):
And one guy who's having an unbelievable year and brian
is Aaron Judge. I mean, like his numbers are so
ridiculous they just are. I mean, can you in a
league now where most guys don't even hit over two twenty,
This guy's hitting over three hundred, still with the home run,
(13:42):
with the power, knocking in runs like go, look how
many three hundred hitters there are? This isn't Kyle Schwarber
batting one seventy five with thirty bombs. Aaron Judge was
the last time I look with three eighteen. I don't
know what, who's about three eighteen.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
It's even better now, it's three twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
In any era of baseball, I'm all right, Brian. Three
twenty nine is like the in.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
This era, especially with the exit v low and the
uppercut swings, and yeah, it seems like it's all or nothing.
And he's given you all meaning power numbers and average.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
It's incredible, and he drives in runs. He's a great
face for the Yankees. He plays hard, he doesn't you
know what I mean, he's not a prima donna, all
those good things. But rob G mister October, Reggie Jackson,
and again we go back to the clutch thing, Brian.
He didn't get the name mister October because he got
(14:39):
hits in May.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Okay, Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
He was clutching October when it mattered. That's why Reggie
Jackson has the name mister Nobody else has that name
mister October.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Because he was clutch. But he heaped on some amazing praise,
rob G. To Aaron Judge.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Yeah, so the New York posted a feature on Aaron
Judge and they threw in a lot of really fancy numbers.
One of them I'm gonna give you just to give
some context of the conversation. So Aaron Judge this season
currently posting a two to nineteen ops plus. Okay, that's
more than twice as good as the league average this year. Now,
if crazy, if you've removed Barry Bonds when he may
(15:20):
or may not have been on the cream in the clear,
he was on it, that number is the best mark
since Mickey Mantle posted a two twenty one in nineteen
fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
All right, Assuming.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
Aaron Judge stays above two hundred right now, getting that
two nineteen right, that'll only be the third time any
player has done that over a full one sixty two
in fifty years. Minus again Barry Bonds, Mark Maguire, Samy Sosa,
who may or may not have been doing some extracurricular activities.
The other two guys who have done it George Brett
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in nineteen eighty was at two oh three.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Was that when he bat at three eighty yes?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Right?
Speaker 8 (16:00):
And Aaron Judge himself in twenty twenty two when he
broke the Al home run record. All of which led
mister October Reggie Jackson to the New York Post that
Aaron Judge has quote put himself in the realm of
Babe Ruth and Lou Garrick.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Brian No, I'll just say to you, is Reggie crazy
or not?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I think that Here's the thing, Rob. If you say
he's on track to be there, I'm with it. If
you say he's there, I'm not with it. Right, I
think there's a big difference between on track and you're there.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Put it this way. Think about quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Is Mahomes on track to be in the goat conversation,
We're gonna have a real conversation. Was he better than
Tom Brady? Yeah, he's on track? Is he there yet?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
If he never played in my issue?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
What you just said is typical of people who have
bypassed Joe Montana. Patrick Mahomes has any even bypassed Joe
mont That's fine. Yeah, I hate I hate that, I
really do. Because Joe Montana was four and on the
Super Bowl eleven touchdowns, no picks, three MVPs. Twice he
had to throw a touchdown to win the Super Bowl.
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I don't know why people have skipped over Joe Montana.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
But you understand the point. No one's saying Joe Montana
is the goat. No one's saying that because he's not.
And listen, shout out Irish.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
You know me.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I'm from South Bend. Rob you know I got love
for Joe Montana.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Should yeah quarterback when they used to kill quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
That's right, But he didn't have seven rings like Tom
Brady does. Tom Brady as the goat. But whether you
like it or not, Tom Brady is recognized as the goat.
You understand the point. If let's use Joe Montana. If
Joe Montana came out and said Patrick Mahomes is the
best to have ever done it right or whatever, the
equivalent of what Reggie Jackson just said about Aaron Judge,
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right like Edgie said, do you have to quote again?
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Just like exactly, Rob G.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
What Aaron Judge has put himself in the realm of
Babe Ruth.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
And he's on track to be there. He's not there
yet with one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
I'm gonna tell you why, And Rob G, I want
you to validate this cause five years ago, Brian no
I had him in my top five home run sluggers
and people went off on me like How in the.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
World am I?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Rob G? That is correct?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Like, how in the world could you and I looked
at this kid and know what I'm trying to say
to you is sure he has a long career to go.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
He's got to keep playing.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
But the numbers and the stuff that he's done, like
like home runs, rob G. Well, we talked about this
the home runs. Here we go with forty two games ago,
he has forty two home runs. Right, here's one of
the things that where you start to look at him
and you got to say that he's the he's in
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the realm.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
With these other guys.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So he's one short of three hundred career home runs.
Brian Judge sits at two ninety nine, with nine hundred
and fifty three at games and three thousand, four hundred
and twenty four bats under his belt. The fastest to
three hundred home runs was Ralph Kiner. He used to
be a Mets brook At played for the Pirates. Right,
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he did it in one thousand, eighty seven games, and
Babe Ruth did it in fewer at bats three thousand,
eight hundred and thirty.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
My point is.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Aaron Judge, if he gets at home run tonight and
matches Ralph Kiner.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
He'll do it.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
In almost a full season, faster than the fastest guy.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Do you see You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Ralph kind of took one thousand eighty seven at bats
I mean games, and Judges at nine hundred and fifty three.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Here's another one.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Through his career, bonted home runs at a rate of
twelve point nine to two at bats to home runs right,
meaning basically a home run every thirteen at.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Bats, which is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Judge's career are you ready eleven point forty five a
BE to home runs. Judge's current a BE to home
run rate this season is nine point nine eight, and
in twenty twenty two it was.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Nine point one nine. I'm just saying all of his numbers.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Match up to all time great when you think about
what he's been able to accomplish, and if this guy
could have ever stayed healthy, I don't know what he
would have done, because you know he's missed plenty of
seasons in parts of seasons. But that's the only reason
why I think Reggie is on to something, because it's
not like he has two hundred and ninety nine and
you look at the numbers, and he doesn't have any
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of these things, you know, like he's just piled up
when he has a lot of at batch or a
lot of game. No, he's doing it with far less
than the people who have done it before.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I hear you.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
But that's where you were technical with Steph Curry, Right,
I'm technical with Reggie Jackson here when you say you've
put yourself in the realm of Babe Ruth and Lou
garrig I look at it where it's like if it
ended today for Aaron Judge. Let's say he just walked away,
He's like, you know, what the heck with it, I'm retiring,
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or there was some family situation. He never plays again.
He's at three hundred home runs when Babe Ruth hit
seven fourteen, Like, sorry, you're not in the realm of
Babe Ruth. You're on track to do some historically special things.
But that's different than saying you've arrived you're in that
realm already. That's what I just don't agree with. He's
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on track, he's not there yet. It's gonna take a
lot more years and a lot more production to get there.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I'm not gonna argue with your standpoint there. I'm just
saying that all of the numbers in tracking put him
on a very elite company. When you start talking about
Bonds at twelve point ninety two or one home run
every thirteen at bets and Judge is eleven forty five, Like,
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that's a significant you know what I mean, that's a
huge number and bonds by most standards. I'm not saying
that they're consider him the home run king, but as
far as hitting home runs, no one was more prolific,
am I right? Like watching that guy, he would get
one or two pitchers every night, Brian, and one would
go into the drink.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Well, that's the thing I think we can agree on
this is that's the shame of the steroid era. When
you look at Aaron Judge right now, is he might
get close to sixty home runs this season, Rob that
is a sensational season. But there's a tendency to look
and say, well, it's not seventy three or seventy or
sixty six or like all these numbers in that era.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Where I hate that Aaron.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Judge doesn't get as much props as he would if
we never had the steroid era. Right, there's a tendency
to kind of shrug your shoulders, like, yeah, good season,
but I've seen seventy.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Plus in a year.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
It's like, well, that wasn't on the up and up.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, it's a combination, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
The only thing that I hate is that people don't
take into account that pictures were in the juice too.
And that's the one thing I do not like, because
I believe Barry Bonds when he was getting up, because
we know Clemmens and Andy pettittt those aren't the only
two pictures who were using the juice back.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
That's fair.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
And I'll tell you Brady Anderson's not hitting fifty without
the juice.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
They only did it one year.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And the reason that I think that I look at
Bonds is he won the three MVPs in Pittsburgh when
he wasn't.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Oh yeah, absolutely that but that was his only year.
That was his only year hitting fifty plus.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I know, which is incredible.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
When you were in wild people they think six or
seven times he didn't do it.
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Speaker 1 (24:08):
Carmelo Anthony what on a podcast and said that a
gold medal to him is bigger than winning an NBA
Finals title.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Let's listen.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
Would you trade your free Olantic gold medals for one
NBA ringer.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
I've never been asked that question.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
No, when we talk about the global sport, for me,
a medal means something totally different than an NBA championship.
They both have their own separate meanings. But winning a
gold medal, it's the passion, it's the pride that you have,
not just for a city or a state, for a
whole nations, for whole country you're winning for. So it's
(24:49):
a different level of I would say pride that you
have to have when you're wearing USA across your chess
or you're wearing Lithuania across your chest right. It's a
total different feeling than Knicks New York across success.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Sorry, Carmelo, not buying it, No way, no how, Brian
uh And I'm not unpatriotic, and I get it you
wear in the red, white and blue, and oh you're
on the world stage. I'm sorry. If I'm an NBA
player winning an NBA championship is numero uno. The medal
(25:29):
against a ton of players who I don't even know
who they are, where they came from. How good the
competent when you're in the NBA, those are the four
hundred best players in the world.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
And if you win a championship, just like when Carmelo
won the college basketball championship, right, he was tremendous. You
remember that, Brian, Now, Jim Bayheim should kiss his butt
every time he sees Carmelo Anthony. Otherwise Jim Baheim would
have coached for fifty years and never would have won
a champion. Carmelo was spectacular. People always remember that. And
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this notion that you covet the three medals you want
in the Olympics. And I'm not trying to pooh pool
them or discount them or mean that their garbage or anything.
But it was easy for him to say that because
he has the medals and he didn't have the championship.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
That's right, right, Yeah, That's what it comes down to
is this is a hypothetical question, and he gave a
hypothetical answer, right, Like, Rob, do you believe in your
heart of hearts we're talking about American basketball here. If
this is Yo kich and trading an NBA ring for
a gold medal, maybe I'll listen to that argument.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
And you know what, and I agree with you. In
those countries, it's totally different. They don't have a league
of the level I'm talking about, of the level of
the NBA where you consider it the best league.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Right yeah, just don't write I think.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Japanese players that come here.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Right yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I think if Jokic said, listen, I would trade my
NBA ring to win, I would fully believe that.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Right, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
But do you believe Mellow like, if you could actually
do this, you could trade your three gold medals for
one NBA ring. If he could actually do that, I
think he would. I think he'd be out of his
mind not to do that, because the gold it doesn't
mean nearly as much for your individual legacy as an
NBA championship does, especially if it was what the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Carl Mello Anthony was born in New York, grays and Baltimore.
But if you want to go back and win, I mean,
look at what they're doing with Jalen Bruns. He just
didn't even get on a second round, I know, bigging
it like like like he's the next coming of the Messiah.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
What they were doing a couple of years ago when
they beat the Hawks in the first round, they acted
like they won a championship then, like if Mello was
the reason why they won a ring.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Oh gosh, you know what, I still remember, uh Cecil
Fielder when he came to the Yankees in the trade
and they won the World Series in ninety six, and
he told me, he said, dude, he said, you know,
winning a World Series or whatever. And the way the
people responded to he said, he couldn't go anywhere in
New York without people paying homage to him helping the
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Yankees win a World Series in ninety six, He says
the most unbelieve. He said, I don't care how I look,
what I'm doing or whatever. Somebody he said, no matter
where I went, would stopped me and thanked me for
winning a World Series for the Yankees in ninety six.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, that's and I think you could flip it around. Also, Rob,
what if let's say Mello was a three time NBA
champion and he was on a podcast and he said, hey,
you know the Olympics they're going on right now. Would
you trade those three NBA rings for a single goal?
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Hell no, you wouldn't even think twice about you. We
wouldn't even think.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And I don't think it's I just don't think the
Olympics hold the same way. And it doesn't mean that
it's meaningless or uh. There's certain events, uh, like like
the women of Won. I know they had a nail
bider to win this past one right against France.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Is that what they be? But they've won eight straight
gold medals? Is that is that?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
I'm not really so that the competition is that bad
that that you can win eight gold medals in a row.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I pooh pooh that. I don't think that there's much competition.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
I would say an Olympics five in a row, right, Yeah,
that's right, an Olympic gold medal for an American basketball player, Right,
that's the end on your bullet point resume. They would
start with league MVP, you know, three time champion.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Like it would start with.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
That final MVP.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah, and the medal ist, right, like the gold medal
for a team USA player is the and it's not
the headliner. It's NBA Championships MVPs like those individual hons,
then you would get to the gold.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Everybody knows Michael Jordan's six for six in the NBA finals,
that's what that's right.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Do you know how many gold medals does mj have?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Off the top of my head, I'm not sure, but
they know he won one six rings?
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Did he go? Did he win two? Did he go? Twine?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You could play that game like you could throw out
throw out current NBA players like how many rings does
this guy have?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
And you could just rattle them off. How many rings
does staff have? For right?
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Like you just rattle them up? How many gold medals
does KG have?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I have no idea. I don't know how many exacts?
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know?
Speaker 1 (30:48):
When I knew that the gold medal didn't have the
same meaning anymore? Is I had a gold medal, I
put it on the windshield of my call, went into
a restaurant, I came back out and there were three
gold medal I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
That should have been the follow up question for Mellow,
right is uh, would you give up that bronze.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
For an NBA ring?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Though?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Mellow, would you do that? At least?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Huh?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Can we get make that transaction.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I just I get it. I mean, if that's all
you have, you're gonna cove.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
It, right.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
And Rob, listen, I'm not mad at him. That's what
he won. And he's a tremendous player in the Olympics.
He won three gold medal I'm not mad.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
That's great and it's meaningful. We're not saying it's meaning less.
Like think about Lebron. Lebron went to the women's gold
medal game the day after and he was wearing his
gold medal, Rob and I thought that was awesome. Somebody
look at that like Lebron's looking for attention. It's a
flex But Rob, he had to work for that medal.
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He's earned a lot of money in his in his
time here on Earth. He can't buy a gold medal.
He couldn't buy a thirteen point comeback against Serbia. They
had to earn that gold medal and that means something
to him. And I think that's awesome, And we're not
saying a gold medal doesn't mean anything. But for an
individual legacy, it doesn't mean nearly as much for an
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American as an NBA championship.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Doubts.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
It's just not even close and again I don't know,
rob G. Did you hear any more of the podcast?
Was it a pushback at all? Because Brian, know, that's
one of my biggest issues with some of these podcasts
is no one you know, they ask people a question,
they answer it, and there's no pushback, like like I
would love.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
It's the barbershop thing, like they hate Lebron show because
there's no pushback ever.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Put I tell you all that the barbershop, Like I
own a barbershop for twenty two years, Brian, that's all
a barbershop is is push backtly this pushback. You could
come in with that shirt you have on, that black
shirt and somebody would say that's brown, that's not black, right,
that's what they say in the barbershop, that ain't Black's brown?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Like they don't agree on anything, and in the the Lebron.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Shop, they all second everything he says.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Everybody agree with.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Maybe that's why you wouldn't get him on the podcast
in the first place.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
A lot of the athletes just don't want pushback.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, but you cheat the listener and that's all just
the question. You don't have to.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Attack him, really, mellow you were born in New York
and you wouldn't want to help the Knicks win their
first championship since nineteen seventy three? Do you know how
you would be elevated? Like I get the Olympics and
all these other players who played, but if you were
to reason the Knicks won a championship, you don't think
that would put you on a plateau like some of
(33:50):
the great Joe Namath played football in the sixties for
the Jets.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
He's an icon there, right, that's the last time the
Jets won a Super He's an icon.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Mellow would be a man man, There's no doubt about it,
you know. And that city, Rob, we're talking of all
the major sports combined. It's been over one hundred seasons
since New York has had a championship. Right then, the
Knicks have contributed to that.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
As we all know, that's an unbelievable number.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
It really is. So yeah, not just for that city. Also,
you know, to have a championship again would be huge.
This was an underrated part of that same interview. Rob is,
normally I tune this stuff out when you hey, who's
your starting five all time? Normally I don't care at all. Right,
but I thought this was kind of interesting. He was
asked in that same podcast, who is all time Olympics
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starting five?
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Would be? Okay?
Speaker 5 (34:44):
And mellow said Lebron, James, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, Charles Barkley,
I haven't heard Michael Jordan yet, and himself, what, No.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Michael Jordan?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Is that unbelievable?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
There you go, and and of course the interviewers, oh,
that's a great.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah, that's a great. Yeah, that's funny. I had the
same thing.