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January 14, 2025 36 mins

Rob and Kelvin debate whether LeBron James’ or Steph Curry’s attitude towards team-building is preferable. Plus, FOX Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina swings by to discuss Steph’s refusal to push for a ‘desperate’ trade, Jimmy Butler’s ongoing trade demands in Miami, the likelihood that we’ll end up with an Oklahoma City Thunder-Cleveland Cavaliers NBA Finals and much more!

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Speaker 1 (02:01):
We talked for a while and yeah, I got paid
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Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, you know, off the ledge and all that.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
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chime in one more time. He had a nice spirited
edition of trash Talking Tuesday. Here.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
That was an hour number two. All right, let's talk
about the let's switch to the NBA Association.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
That's right, Uh, Steph and Steph Curry, you know, like
the Warriors are going through it.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
They are playing it simple. They lost to Toronto last night.
It's bad.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
And I keep looking at Steve Kerr and I know
like his guts are just churning because because he played
with Michael Jordan, yeah you know what I mean, he
won a lot of places. And then of course, you know,
once he took over from Mark Jackson Golden State, they
won four championships. They were always in the mix all
this other stuff, and now this team is just dreadful

(02:57):
and they know they don't have they don't have a
stir to compete. They really don't. I remember they got
off to a good start, robbed you when they ten
and two or something. They got off to a all right,
got going on? Oh wow, maybe they didn't Clay Thompson,
who right and all that, and it's been you know,
they've been in a crapper for the most part, okay.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
With no toilet paper on the seat.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
So here's what well they were they were hovering. It's okay,
you can help, just you know, cheek the cheek, just hover.
Uh but Steph, I gotta give Steph credit. Wait, hold on,
hold on, breaking news, because step thought I was hard
on Steph. You know, but Steph Curry at least has

(03:42):
acknowledged that disfranchise has done a lot for him. They've
put a lot of money, you know, their luxury tax,
what they pay, like it's crazy, like people, they've done everything.
But Steph went on to say that he's not expecting
them to turn over, get rid of all the young players,
do everything for him so that he could have a

(04:02):
chance to win. So he's conscious of the franchise and
doesn't feel entitled that you can waste his Oh it's
you're wasting Steph's years by not having a team that's
eligible or roster that's fit for the Championshiplet's sen here's
Steph Curry.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Desperate trades are desperate moves that deplete the future. Like
there is a responsibility allow keeping the franchise in a
good space and good spot when it comes to where
we leave this thing when we're done.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
I respect that, I really do.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Now that's not Lebron, because when you get in to
bed with Lebron, it's like all those young kids all
get rid of them, grat I'm talking about all the people,
get get rid of them, right, trade him away. I
don't care. We need somebody for now. I can't worry
about the future. I don't care about the future.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
You're forty years old. You're chasing this Michael Jordan ghost.
You feel like his fans are like, oh, you're wasting
Lebron's years and all this stuff. You're not entitled or
you have a birthright that every team you play on
should have a chance to win a champion. It just
doesn't work like that. You don't respect Steph for at

(05:14):
least acknowledging that he's making fifty million from the team.
They got a ridiculous penalty for going over to salary cap.
I mean they've done everything for him. I don't know
what else you could want. Wait, why you just assume
with Steph on this one?

Speaker 7 (05:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
You know, you're a Lebron guy.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
So here is what you're dealing with. You're dealing with
one organization and the Warriors that is homegrown. Steph is
home grown. There all ever known, all I ever wanted
to be, all they've ever known. The new ownership is
we bought in and we got Steph Curry and obviously
Draymond and Cur's been our guy. So he's homegrown in

(05:53):
that I want to do right by this organization.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I want this organization to get it right. I want
to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I don't want them to be scrambling to do stuff
because this organization also, by the way, he's run by
a bunch of smart people who are very analytical. This
is why they won before KT won a bunch with KD.
He stays, they might have won. Who wait for KD.
They wouldn't have They wouldn't beat the dynasty or whatever.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
True, but they would they'd walk away because they lost
a three to one lead to Lebron.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
With all the analytics.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
You can say all you want and how smart they are.
Without KD they would they would not be looked upon
the same way.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
It would be no argument. But you're missing the point
of that they got KD. That's a part of how
this all works out. So they got KD. They won
a bunch, absolutely made him better, They made them the
most possible to beat, and then they win without KD.
Point being, they find ways the smartness is a smart
organization and this is why they've had such a run
that they've had over the last we'll call it ten
years now. The Lakers, on the other hand, are a

(06:48):
family owned business who do family dealings. We'll pay Kobe
Bryant well passed what he's deserves because he's our guy.
He's been there force as we do. Lebron comes in,
We'll pay more than he probably deserves. He's been here.
We want a championship, we owe it to him, and
we also need him because all the Lakers they don't need.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
The Lakers do not need Lebron.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
What what I'm saying is, Rob, this is how they
do business. All they have is that business, the Lakers.
That's literally the family. They don't have anything else.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
But what empty seats were they here?

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Question you say now you say like I'm just asking you,
I'm asking you seriously, Lebron, No, Lebron, there.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Will not be any empty seats here. A part of
what they do is have a superstar. We go get
the biggest free agent in ninety Okay, but I back,
we go Kobe about to leave. No keep Kobe, we
go get So what I'm saying is is not that
they all of a sudden not have fans. They know
that we need to keep fans. We need to This
is all the family has that's a real thing. A

(07:46):
lot of these owners. No, no, no, this is the fun
thing I have this little NBA.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I got it.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Okay, the Knicks haven't won a championship in nineteen since
nineteen seventy three. Okay, what empty seats do they have
at Madison Squat?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
God, that's where I'm trying to tell you that it
doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Who who's playing or not. I'm not what I'm trying
to tell Nobody's answer. Ain't nobody's saying the Knicks are
never gonna have fans. The Lakers have built an identity
on what winning. That's what we are, that's what we do,
that's what become and what do all of us do?
You fall in and hold onto your identity what you are.
The Knicks don't have that identity.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
To the last five.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Years of Kobe's career, they go to the playoffs because
of what they have.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
They gave him a bunch of money and headstrung to
Kobe because I just mentioned did.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
They have any did they have empty seats that they're
wed or people not care about the Lakers?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Why do yours? You're stuck on the seats. It's a
broader thing than the simply seats. It's Lakers merchandise, it's relevant,
it's TV.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
All of this goes in.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
So I'm asking you, with Lebron is in here, they
don't sell any merchandise.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Is that what you're telling me? That people don't show up.
They love doing business with the biggest stars. So what
are we talking about? It could be somebody else. It
doesn't have to be Lebron.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Could have been Kawhi without Lebron because he's from La.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It could have been to other people, is what I'm saying.
You don't not Lebron only. Man, you're missing the point.
Nobody's saying it's Lebron only.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
It has been Kareem, it's been Magic, it's been Shack,
it's been Kobe, it has now been Lebron.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
The point is they love to do business with said yggastars. Okay,
but you're missing my point.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
It's the brand that's bigger that the Laker brand is bigger.
I know Lebron's a great player, just like the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I don't care who comes right.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Juan Soto just walked out on the whole body and
people not going Tobrons selling how the brand operates.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
How is that debatable? The brand operates literally their track
record is this. They don't do homegrown, which was my point,
if you to let me get it out. The point
is the Golden State Warriors did a homegrown thing. They
found Draymond, they found clay, they found here, syboard, they
found stuff. They built these they's cultivated. Lakers don't do that,
is my point. They go get star, got a bron
for a few years, we got champions. Okay, keep Lebron.

(10:02):
You want Bronnie, we do that. Lebron's gonna fade away.
It's gonna go away. Go get the new star. They
don't build. Is my point, not that the Lakers are
some irrelevant brand. Their brand of businesses. We go get
the next thing. We don't have time to build. We
don't have time for like developing, because our brand is
we're always good and we got superstars.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
It look look look superstars. So when Kobe was here
his last five years, well who did they go get
the brand? Was Kobe? Oh that's that was then to
make the playoffs for his brand. Kobe was superstar, right,
so that was a brand.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
But but you said it was about winning. That what
I'm saying did they win those years? But they won
two with him? They didn't win until they went and
got power because I'm saying they used to play here.
Can I give you smart all? No, but Schwarts Poker
was a part of a team like the Lakers. How
that's my point. The Lakers don't build. That's literally my point,

(10:56):
Ron Parker. My point to you is it has nothing
to do with Steph being a homegrown. I get it
that he's homegrown, but I'm telling you that you could
also if you're the Lakers, say to Lebron, we're not
giving away everybody and everything just because we.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Hope they went and got Anthony Davis. They're lucky that
they got that.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Bubble championship, because if they didn't get that bubble championship,
my god, what a bad uh.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Right, But you're telling them what they you're telling her
what they could do.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
I'm telling you what they literally have done for fifty
sixty years.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
This is what they've done. This is literally what they've done.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Kobe rotted out too long because they're honorable their family.
This is what he's part of our family. Genie Bus
loves him.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
This is literally what they do. Right then they faded away. Boo,
get the bron got Lebron. It's work. They got a championship,
and the case fade. It's fading.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
They're gonna go get the next they're Anthony Edwards or something.
This is what they do. And what I'm saying is
the difference is when you go into business with Lebron.
This is a business deal. He's a business I'm here
four years, I'm out go back to Cleveland here, four years,
I'm out going to the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
It's called he's just selfish and he feels like this
is what this is. The point I'm trying to make
is Steph is not that I'm a step realized, but
it's not. Lebron is just selfish and he believes there's
some birthright that he has to be.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
On a team.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
That's that's fine for a championship, no matter if it's
good health for the franchise long term or not.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And I get it. And that's agreed to it. That's
what I'm saying, agreed to it.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
But that ain't the way that you have to run it,
even if you're the Lakers, because the Warriors don't have
to do that.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Steph Curry could act like, oh, yeah, well they've done.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Everything for him, right, and he's still saying, you know
what I get.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Because they have a mutual bond. Is my point.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
They have come to this is what we've built, this
is who we are. That's my point. Exactly what the Lakers,
this is what proven me to be.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
What they've done.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
They are in business dealing with Lebron and all that
it comes with it. They set up here and signed
his son. You don't get think damn business dealings with Lebron?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
His son?

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Who you set up is he shouldn't even been in
the NBA. That proves my point that they're in a
business dealing. I'm not saying they shouldn't be in the future.
This is currently what they do. So what they've done
is now say we're signing Lebron, we're all in. Lebron
comes and says, you know it's the package deal. You know,
I want the coach, you know I want my kind
of guys.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
You know you don't want to know that that they
talk about, Oh Lebron, don't have this go back. We
need this need that those players were here.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
They ended up being good. What I'm saying they didn't
take the time to develop. This is the package deal
with me. If I come here, I need these kind
of guys that need all I need my snbody sign
everybody signed the Clutch Sports. I need this, and the
Laker said, sign us up and it got him a championship.
But now it's fading that I don't even I don't
even see how you don't see what I'm.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
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Speaker 2 (13:57):
Who's out of towards towards a team building? Do you perform?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Are Lebron's you know, having his loaded roster to win
every year even if he doesn't, even if you have
needs to play in it works so well he needs
to play in all right, doing it his way just
to get into the playoffs or steps.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
We'll continue that conversation next with you.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
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he didn't want the team, the Warriors to make any
irrational moves, many random trades, you know, had a handicap
in the team, and comparing that to the Lebron where
the last however many years with Lakers, they're getting rid
of any and everybody to kind of go and chase

(15:21):
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Speaker 2 (15:23):
What we Got Let's kick it off with Joe in
Las Vegas. You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Joe?

Speaker 8 (15:31):
Well, I I think mister Parker probably won this particular
debate because the thing about the Lakers is you're always
hoping and praying.

Speaker 9 (15:41):
That the next star is going to come to you.
But in the NBA. But the salary thing the way
it is, I can play in Oklahoma City and make
more money there under the contract than I can in LA.
So now you're either asking a superstar to take less
money to come play with the Lakers, or you come
to the Lakers while Lebron is there and you're a

(16:04):
superstar and now you got to play like the coach
starring like you know, you don't get the main title
on the movie. You're with the also starring or also
rans because you gotta be under his shadow. So what's
gonna happen with the Lakers. It's just like what happened
after Kobe, After Max and them, they went downhill because
the brand wasn't there, nobody was coming. Then they got

(16:26):
Shaq and they got Kobe and they had the nice
little run and at the end of Kobe's they went
right back down again, and Lebron his run is about over,
and they're gonna go right back down again because I great.
That's about it. So with the being with the Warriors
is you can bring those guys along and you can
have more consistently.

Speaker 10 (16:46):
Right.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
That's why I think what Steph is saying is great
because he's not saying it's my birth right. You can't
burn my last three years without me having a chance
to win that. He knows this year they don't have
a roster to compete. He's playing knowing he can't compete
with the other teams.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Leron has hell been on Legacy. That's what I'm saying
is because we didn't expect Steph. We thought he'd like,
I won four this is a little us. This is
the Lebron era.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
I won four championships in the Lebron Era, and no
one ex as many as he's won.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
We we thought, oh, he'll be fun little player. We
didn't know he'd be there.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
So he's there's a there's a there's a place in contentment,
and where's Lebron's Like.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I gotta win.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
I got a wint a wing by any means, I
gotta be when I gotta win, I gotta win. Rich
in Texas, you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
What's up? What's up? Rich?

Speaker 5 (17:34):
He Uh, Yeah, I think it's obvious that Lebron you know,
he used to be a higher gun and would move
around the team and get getting things built around him.
But now that he wants to settle down and stay
in l a not working out well for him. Uh
So that's obvious. But I'd also like to push back
against Calvin saying that the Lakers haven't been homegrown. I mean,

(17:57):
they drafted Magic Johnsons, he stayed with him our whole career,
thank you. You know, James Worthy, you know, by homegrown,
and then then they did they try to do with
Nick Nick Vanexa for a while, but that didn't work
out so well, and then they drafted Kobe and he
stayed with them.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
A great point, let me, So here's my pushback. So
here's my pushback.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
You can thank him, that's fine, but that's not accurate
to the era of free agency that didn't exist back then.
So of course Magic now is gonna stay there. Just
like Larry Bird stated, nobody was over. There was no
free agency back then. So my point, I'm talking to
trade people that traded Ron Parker. Yes, there was a
random trade of some dude. They would literally trade for
a washing machine as well. I'm talking about real free
agency agency.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
If we do it now.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
So that's why I'm talking about the shot. That's why
I'm talking about the modern era. And that's when they
started to do that. They started to get the shacks
and we got a pair them with this person. We
go get the We gotta go get Adie, we gotta
get past. But I'm saying, yes, they got magic back
in eighty. No but that, but but that that is
a big part of their legacy. Those are homegrown. Maybe
I thought it was obvious what I was saying. I

(18:58):
was saying the last modern era, last thirty years or so.
I didn't know we were going back to You said
that that was the Laker West. It has been their way.
That's not even debatable. Okay, but they get the whole
point of this one. Some of their greatest players, whoever
was no, what was the point of the cover.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Some of their greatest point in their conversation was named
the top five great play greatest players Let me know
when you're going let me of the conversation was getting
rid of young players and not developing them and making moves.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
That was the point that the Bakers in the last
twenty five years was going to get people.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
But they also but they also have drafted some of
the biggest stars in their franchise history.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
When no free agency.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
You're right, Jerry in Seattle, you're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
What's up, Jerry?

Speaker 7 (19:44):
Not much, Kelvin.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
You gotta let this one go, man, tell them, Jerry.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
Kareem Abdul Jabbar was the biggest player in the world,
and like the collar just said, it took a drafted
homegrown player Irvin Johnson to take him over to hom Yes,
Jacquie Shaquille O'Neal was the biggest player in the world,
but you know pretty much one of them when they
when they brought him in to the homegrown Kobe Bryant
to get him over the hem. I mean, you need
to just say.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Thank you, because that was my point is that it
doesn't have to be that way. It doesn't They don't
have to have to be that Lebron's thing.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
They could have with you that they could have had
some of these players that they let get away because
they've allowed Lebron to manipulate them and tell them that
the question was That's what I'm saying they did, and
that's what they've done.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
They want in the business with this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Why I love what Steph is saying is that he
understands that he doesn't want to leave the Warriors in
the lurch in a bad spot because you're trying to
throw bad money, you know, or bad deals just to try.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
To get players for him. They have a system.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Lebron unfortunately has become the system, and if it doesn't
work his way, it doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
All right. We appreciate the calls. Everybody was going in
the spirit and Martin.

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(21:45):
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Speaker 10 (21:48):
Calvin Robb Claudy you are hanging in as well, staying
safe out here.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yes, it's wild brother and he lives close to the
radio station. So uh, the other night was a little
scary Friday night.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Wasn't it?

Speaker 10 (22:01):
And we both evacuated Friday night and we're both back,
hopefully for good. But uh, these wins, I guess are
day to day.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yes, no doubt about it. Yep.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
All right, Uh some NBA. Let's just what do you
want to start with the Lakers? Well, well, I mean
I don't really talk about with the Lakers right now.

Speaker 10 (22:19):
Lose the night, if you don't mind me interjecting. Rob,
I had some reminders of you yesterday because I was
at the Laker game. We're seeing Michael Cooper get his
jersey retired, and I talked to Magic Johnson afterwards and
he was saying things that Rob Parker has been saying,

(22:39):
where he was like, you know, one of the reasons
why so many the showtime Lakers were back was we
were really close for a family. We did everything because
we were on the team for a while, and that
doesn't happen in today's NBA. And then He also said
we always practice. Now teams never practiced anymore. I felt
like I was talking to Rob Parker all the talking.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
He's right, though, I mean, we know what's happening here
with that. Let me ask you that. Let's start here.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
We just were talking about Steph Curry, who said, basically
to the Warriors, please don't sell the farm to try
to put together a roster for me, you know, and
do stuff that might cause them damage long term. But
the Warriors are bad, can we say that, Mark? I mean,
they lost to Toronto last night. They started off really

(23:26):
well and people thought, oh, they don't need Clay Thompson,
and they have really really struggled for a significant amount
of time.

Speaker 10 (23:33):
Now, yeah, there are still five hundred team nineteen twenty,
and I think that that's what it's going to be
throughout the rest of the season, bar in a significant move.
I think Steph Curry is really conflicted here because the
mixed messages show that he's trying for the organization to
find that fine line of understanding. Don't squander the future

(23:54):
and make bad deals just to make them marginally better,
but don't take my championship win for granted. And so
that's where the Warriors predicament are in. They thought, partly
because of that strong start, that finding more roster depth
and parting away with Clay would help some of those things.

(24:14):
And look, they're all good role players when you go
down the line, but the reality is some of them
have been hurt. The young players have shown growing pains
as they always have not well, Yeah, Podzimsky, Brandon Pozemski,
he was supposed to have a bigger role this season
to replace Clay, and he hasn't been able to shoot
a shot at all this season really, And then you

(24:37):
know there's been injuries and some of their other role
players they're great, but they're okay but not great. And
so that's what happens. When you have a collection of
okay players, you're no better than barely above or below
five hundred. So I think when you look at the
big picture of this, they did go the right route
of choosing this lane as opposed to putting all their

(25:00):
chips into getting Paul George last summer or Laurie marketing.
But that doesn't mean that's the right play for the
trade deadline. They just need to find the right deal
so they have that game changing player that puts them
over to the top so that they don't squander the
rest of Stephf's championship window.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
So are we wasting our time?

Speaker 10 (25:23):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Can we all just fall asleep and wake up in June?

Speaker 1 (25:26):
And is going to do the Thunder versus the Caves,
because my gosh, these teams are ridiculous, Like I mean,
they're not even like they just don't lose.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
They literally don't lose.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
The Thunder and ninety one of their last ten sitting
at thirty two and six, the Calves or guess what
they are, ninety one in their last ten, thirty three
and five.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's remarkable what they're doing.

Speaker 10 (25:45):
I will say this, we can fall asleep until May
because that's when the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Boston Celtics
will play in the Eastern Conference Finals. I think that's
the seven game series. I initially thought it was going
to be, you know, favor to Boston because they're the
young income, the champs, they have most of their core back. Yeah,
there's always going to be health questions about chrisofs Porzingis,

(26:07):
but he's a luxury, not a necessity. But seeing Cleveland
just reel off all these wins. I think that they
are the better team. Donovan Mitchell has raised his game
to another level. He's showing that he and Darius Garland
can co exist together. Evan Mobley and Jared Allen the
same thing. With the front court. Kenny Atkinson is going
to win Coach of the Year. And I think the

(26:28):
other thing that's telling is that when they're in town
in LA a few weeks ago, Kenny Atkinson was saying
Donvan Mitchell's leadership is similar to what he saw with
Steph Curry when he was an assistant with the Warriors.
So they have really every single button you need to
push with having a championship window. They got really top
heavy talent, they got depth, they get a long well

(26:50):
in the locker room, and they're all healthy and they're
well coached. So I want to be surprised that we
will see them in June, but it'll still be fund
seeing them in Boston and men.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
About Zion Williamson. If you're if you're in New Orleans,
I mean, what do you what are you doing? Can
you can you unload the guys? There's somebody else who'll
take them off your hands.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, He's the worst city has the worst food. He's
late send them there. You know, he's late for flights
now and late for like like, this is a nightmare
this guy.

Speaker 10 (27:19):
The fact that they had to release a statement and
get him to have a statement there released by the
team saying he's apologizing, Like what is this middle school school?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (27:30):
The Pelicans have always been at him in the past
that they want to trade Zion because when he's on
the court, he's really well, that's good, and well here
I'm kind of at a slow pitching, right, I understand,
I'll change right. Where they used to say that, they
also used to say, look, it's a work in progress,

(27:51):
but he is being open and coachable with how he
changes his dieting to improve his conditioning. He has the
right intentions. But how many times have we heard this
in the It's basically since he's been a rookie in
twenty nineteen. So I think in today's NBA, by year five,
you are who you are as far as your availability,

(28:12):
your injury history, your attitude. And so I don't know
if the Pelicans think this, but I think this they
got to just cut their losses. I get when he's
on the court, he still is such a unique player
that is very skilled. The problem is he's not always
on that. He is very rarely on the court. So
I don't think it's worth it anymore. They got to

(28:33):
cut their losses and see what they can do. But
the problem is, I don't think there's going to be
a lot of interest in trade partners for the same reason.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Man, if you'd have told me six or seven years ago,
whenever one, when he was at Duke and blowing out shoes,
you know, even his high school mixtape, that that we
would be here where You're like, I might not even
mean an interest for him.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Mark with Diina, our guest, Mark, I want to quickly
ask you about the Jimmy Butler situation. Apparently he had
a one on one face to face with pat Riley.
That's two guys who are stubborn, two ego driven guys.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
So pat Riley holds his ground. So what do you
think is happening there?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
He said he absolutely will not resign, he Jimmy Butler
and that he doesn't want to be there. In re
question trade formally looking at pat Riley, Yeah, I.

Speaker 10 (29:16):
Mean, if we see pat Riley's behavior, he does what
he thinks his best. You know, he didn't hesitate train
and Shaquille O'Neil. He stood by Eric Spolscher when he
was here in pressure from Lebron to have pat Riley,
who replaced him, you know, during the first year with
the Big Three in Miami. So I don't think he's
going to blank here. But the practical parts of Jimmy

(29:39):
Butler's contract makes it very challenging because he has the
player option this summer. So the idea that well, that
he can just go through the rest of this season
and keep them on the roster. Yeah, it's all fine
and dandy, but what do they do in this offseason?
They're not There's no reason Jimmy Butler would want to
opt out of his player option because he's gonna get
fifty two million dollars. I don't think he wants to

(30:01):
leave FAMI that much, to leave that much money on
the table only to sign with another team that's gonna
be you know, mid level exceptions.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
But that's what I would force him to do. There
is you're not and if Jimmy Butler's sold, he didn't
have any joy, No, But I'm just saying.

Speaker 10 (30:18):
Well, here's what I'm saying Rob. I don't think the
heat won him anymore either.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
No, but I get that option, but I don't believe that.
I don't believe he's going to stay there. Seriously, I don't.
And I understand what you're saying. With the fifty two million,
he might cut his losses and say, I go somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I won't make as much this year.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
And you know, but I can't see because pat Riley
will have then looked star at him down and will
have beaten him and said, we didn't trade you like
you try to demand you. You didn't strong arm us
into a new contract.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
You see what I'm.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Saying, Mark, Yeah, so so so Jimmy would have to
save face and re up with the heat to me
the heater in the driver's seat, because Jimmy would have
to try to save face.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Well, why would you re up? You said you had
no joy here? Why would you call that? Parker?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
One thing I know about you, you love some money.
Fifty some millions listen. I will sit on their bench,
e popcorn and class fifty two.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yes, Tyler hero, he talked, He talked the big game,
and then he'd have to be because he got him
Trump car in his back pocket a fifty two million.
That fun, pat Riley, I ain't doing I know, and
I'm we're gonna be sitting right there with a fifty
two million.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Why are you happy with your hair? Wonderful slick back hair.
I made toy and I make you running practice and
everything funny. I think I'm okay. Jimmy brothers in great shape. Mark,
Thank you man, stay safe out here. Appreciate you guys
as well a your Eric sposters. Make Jimmy run a
few extra supersides suicides. Yeah, earn that fifty two million?

Speaker 10 (31:50):
All right?

Speaker 1 (31:50):
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Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
We want to hear from Uziakame. You better not rip
me on last call. I'm not in that move.

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Speaker 2 (32:12):
No, they're getting three and a half. I know, but
they missing free throws.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
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hit a three so dimon ball game?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Would you stop?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
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Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, a lot of good season. We just have him.
Nobody's really talking about him right now.

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Speaker 2 (32:50):
Come, do you know what? Yes, thank you for checko
city three and oh tonight you know what I need?
Oh boy, yes, the worst purchase I ever did. I
need it bad tonight because it has been a bad

(33:13):
stretch for me.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
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Speaker 4 (33:18):
Thirteen and seventeen now point damon in Delaware. You are
now the last call here on the couple.

Speaker 11 (33:26):
The best for last baby. Well, first of all, so
you mean to tell me that Eric's sposter is gonna
go bully Jimmy Butler and practice because pat Riley tells
him to. You can do that with big players, but
when you're making fifty million dollars, everybody in count thank you, Calvin,
because you only wanted to show that has any kind

(33:46):
of dog on common sense. You can do that with
big players. You can't do that when you're making fifty millions.
Many players dandel russell several other players. They opt into
that last year that contract because they know they can't
get a better deal. I mean, only Rob Rob. Are
you that much of a creep that that's what you
think you're gonna bully people? Meanwhile, you're talking about don't

(34:08):
hit nobody. You come up like a chump.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Man, Hey, listen here, what you sound like a chump
from this standpoint? Okay, let me tell you ad you
call my show? Okay, and you know what? Or you
are as a fanboy? Hey, Jimmy brother.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Oh jim you're a fanboy. That's the problem is that
you aren't willing to stand up. You just cave.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I don't care much money he makes. Guess what, Jimmy
Butler cashes the check that that he pays him. He
doesn't run the organization. He's not independently wealthy. He takes
a paycheck from somebody, just like I do here, which
means that.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
I have to follow the rules and I have a
boss over.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Me and if the boss wants to make life a
little difficult cause I ain't being right or I ain't
doing what I want. They didn't count out to Jimmy Butler.
Damn it, he ain't get his one hundred and ten
million dollar extension.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
He wanted the Miami. He told him, ye're.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Right, and he'd take your seven game suspension for talking crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I try to be with you.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
That is till fifty million though, I don't care he
gonna call me from Delaware with that nonsense.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Hey, sorr. He he wanted the LA. He wanted to
smoke what he got this to go ahead? He ad
meant that, I don't even call back. You called back
on trash talk and we'll talk.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
You have a week.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Oh yeah, go back next Tuesday. Trash talking Tuesday. What
was we talking about, Jimmy. Yeah, I don't even know
what he was talking about with Jimmy brother. I don't
even to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
You just said it. No, I'm laughing, No, yah, Jimmy
Butler somewhere right now. Like I didn't know they cared
this much. No, I didn't know. I mean, you don't
know that Damon care that much.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
He's always these guys who get on that he's telephone tough, right,
instead of looking at the real situation.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Jimmy Butler ain't win and watching.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
See he ain't staying in Miami with his tail tucked
between his legs.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I guarantee you anything. The only thing, the only thing
I don't I don't believe, I don't like. If I'm
Eric Sposter, I'm like Pat, I get you big dog
and godfathering right now, but I'm out here Hamstrong right now.
I got a guy that we suspended. It won't play,
supposed to be my best player, and you ain't trying
to make no trades?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
What about me? You' even me empty out here? That's
how I would feel if I'm Eric Sposter. All right?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Uh, The Jason Smith Show is coming up next with
Mike Harmon and guess what Kelvin.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
He about to find you on Twitter too. Never miss
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