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March 4, 2025 37 mins

Rob and Kelvin tell us how Kyrie Irving’s season-ending knee injury actually makes the Luka Doncic trade look even worse and provide up-to-the-minute analysis of all the Tuesday night NBA action. Plus, The Athletic’s NBA reporter Christian Clark swings by to discuss all the latest happenings surrounding Kyrie, Luka Doncic and the Dallas Mavericks.

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Speaker 1 (01:00):
In about twenty eight minutes, Christian Claude, the athletic NBA
reporter for the Dallas Mavericks, joins us. That's coming up
in about twenty eight minutes, and last call in case
you couldn't get in, your chance to chime in on
anything that maybe you might have missed earlier in the program,

(01:22):
So that's coming up as well.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yep, looking forward to that.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Man, we were talking about it earlier, Rob, just the
bad news, Kyrie Irving. We were watching it yesterday. Goes
down touring Aco out for the season. It's gonna take
anywhere from nine months to a year, you know, however
and long it'll take him to recover, and it just
really I don't know if I was really trying to
think of in recent sports history something compounding itself so badly, Rob,

(01:51):
you know what I mean, where it just went from
worse to worse to worse to worse. We wake up
one day, we're all sitting there getting ready to actually
take it back, getting ready go to bed, and boom,
the Luca trae happened and that explodes, and everybody's beyond shocked,
and it's like, wait, what the twenty five five times
I was getting dressed to go head out?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, okay, but I was getting ready.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I think I probably had a three year old on
my chest, getting ready to go to bed, different lives
and we're all blown away, like, oh my god, this
trade is crazy. And then we kind of assessed the
trading and go, okay, Anthony Davis is a heck of
a player, really good, but this is crazy. You just
traded all world twenty five year old for thirty one
year old perpetually injured.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
This is crazy. Then what happens.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Eighty gets injured the first game, and it's almost poetic
in that he's playing well, he's balling out, he's showing
MAVs like, this is who you got, I'm that guy,
and he's literally doing that, playing great.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Bullma goes down. He's injured. He's been out for ever since.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
So now you go to the Lakers, David playing well,
they're on the run, Luca's just getting his legs back,
and the Lakers look good.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
That makes it worse.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Then you have the governor of the MAVs coming out
saying stuff like, well, we didn't think it was gonna
be so much blowback and we didn't what So that
makes it crazy. And then of course they're on the
mission to make you feel like Luca is gonna have
this crazy injury and catastrophic injury in five years. So
they're going on a campaign to make Luca look bad
to make themselves look better. And then boom, Kyrie goes

(03:12):
down last night and I just don't know, if I've
seen something compounds so faster in a matter of a
few weeks, you know, bad get.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
To worse, get to worse, get to worse.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
I mean, we joke a lot of you and I
about the Giants getting rid of Saquon and then keeping
Daniel Jones. He's terrible, and then the next year he's
no longer with you, So maybe that's up there. But
like I and then Taquon going on to win a
championship with the Eagles, they just made a worse trade.
Things just got worse and it just kept going downhill
and to now this is one of the worst sports

(03:44):
situations in quite some time where you made a blunder trade,
everyone's confused by it, and then injury to the guy
you traded for who's always injured, gets injured. To now
your best player still Kyrie goes down, which obviously that
was not their fault. Just a terrible situation, which is
maybe why you didn't want to pay an injury prone
AD with an injury prone Kyrie.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
That was just not great. And it's just a bad situation.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
And I'm like really thinking, I can't think of something
in sports that like compounded bad after bad after bad
after bad like this in quite some time. Yeah, maybe
the fifth inning for the Yankees in the World Series. Seriously,
like that, words just kept getting worse. That might be
the worst the other equivalent in the last you know,
several years.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, I mean, I get your point on the present day,
but I'm not so sure that I can without questions
say it's the worst. We don't know what Luca can
turn into. They didn't want to pay three hundred and
fifty million dollars to a guy wasn't being professional or
taking care of himself. I'm not mad at them, like
they lived with him. They looked at him like to

(04:49):
make a bold decision like that means that there's something there.
Because I keep saying this, it's not a basketball trade. Obviously,
you're not training a twenty five year old international star
who's a first team All NBA okay, like five of
his seven years in his career or whatever. Okay, So

(05:09):
that it just that's not logical. So there's something else
there that frightened them to the point that they didn't
want to pay. And that's I've seen guys teams, you know,
pay players and then regret it later on. And they
paid Bradley Beal and all that, and then you have
an albatross. And I'm not saying that Luca is Bradley Beal,

(05:31):
but there's something else there and we don't know. And
while the Lakers are off to a good start, we'll
see what happens. We'll see after the honeymoon wears off.
Does he fall back into bad habits? You know what
I mean? The offseason, he comes back into training camp
overweight from going back to Europe, and like, there's a
lot of stuff that factors in. So, yes, the Mavericks

(05:54):
get the short end of the stick as we speak,
because two of the guys who you were hoping and
count on or injured, so there's no way of debating that.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
But I also traded for said injury person, Rob, you
know what I mean? They didn't.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Ad also won a championship for the Lakers. I mean,
we can see there all day. We know what a
d is a great player, So the Lakers traded for
him too when people questioned because he was always hurt
and they got a championship out of them. I think
you'll take that if you're the Dallas Mavericks and somehow
not an eight year career ten if you could get
a championship, and that's what they were hoping, that they

(06:29):
could get back to where they were this time. They'd
have a rim protector, they'd have, you know, somebody who
could play defense.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And also he's a great scorer.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
We know that that maybe in the short term, that's
all you're looking for. Nobody. You're not gonna win every year.
Teams don't win like that. It's hard. So so you know,
it sounds great, Ah, they're gonna win a dynasty. And
when the Warriors weren't winning three in a row or
three out of four without Kevin Durant either, they just

(06:58):
weren't if they didn't go and Kevin Durant so and
they won a championship.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Right the next year they lost. They gave up that
three to one lead.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
So I just think that this is different, This is
so unique, so strange. I'm still not going to bash
Dallas for deciding against him. You are nice, No, I'm not,
because to me, it's just it's not a basketball trade.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I guess what I agree with that said, maybe there
was something.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Dark because if this was just basketball, say he wasn't overweight,
he was whatever. This is just basketball. Then I say
they're crazy. There was Sugarnough, there's some reason that they
don't want to fork over three hundred and fifty million
to him, the same way DeMarcus Cousins with the Kings.

(07:50):
Do you remember that they didn't want they didn't pay him,
that the deadline came and they were like, man, we
can't you know, I'm not saying we can't control them,
but like, there's all this stuff going on, all this craziness.
We can't if we give this guy two hundred and
six million at that time, two hundred and fifty one million,
what were.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
We gonna do here? And what they do?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
They didn't give it to them, And guess what, Demark
has never got it.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, that's true, But I guess so I get what
you I totally get what you're saying. I guess I'm
looking at it with the massive miss Again. The key
component for me is what we find out in the
more recent reporting is that they said we believe in
the next five year he's gonna have a catastrophic injury.

(08:33):
But you literally got the guy who's often injured so
much so that he has a nickname street clothes, and
I hate it for him because he's a good dude,
and he's incredibly talented and one of the better players
in the league went healthy Anthony Davis. We know that,
But you got him for Anthony Davis, and you didn't
get a bunch of draft fish, you didn't get Austin Reeves,
and and then you pair them with an often injured Kyrie.

(08:56):
So it's just a weird mix. And that's where it
went wrong. If they believe there's some deeper, darker stuff
with Luca that we will never know because he's not
on our team, Okay to that point, Okay, maybe there's
something we don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I just go here, here it is, I just want
to this is just de Marcus Cousin. Yeah, twenty seventeen.
This was according to Wojes, this was some of the
reasons the Kings decided to trade him instead of offering
him an extension.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
The King simply decided that they no longer wanted to
let cousins volatility dictate the culture of the locker room.
The King he was in line for a two hundred
and nine million dollar contract. This is twenty seventeen, and
they and they didn't give it to him. That and
this is what I'm this is and I'm not saying

(09:41):
he's that or whatever, but there's something there.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
If we're talking about the basketball straight up, then we
know that this was a horrific trade. If this is
about basketball, I don't believe it's about basketball.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I still even with that, there's something still off, Like
we can find a way to get this guy in shape.
We can find a way to tell him, hey, you
know you don't know less sparingly with the hookahs, and
either way, I'm just not getting rid of him.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
We don't have to go down.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
When they take a beer from a guy who's of age,
who's drinking. After you, I said, after you won, you
head to the final, when can you have a beer?
Then I'm asking you.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
That one thousand in real time. I remember look at
Michael Finley's face like always serious. Then I'm looking Luca
and Luca try to get it back like Michael walked away.
I'm like, oh, this is a serious thing.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
That That's what I'm saying to you, Like that doesn't
make sense. If you're going to let somebody go off
and celebrate, that's the day to get drunk.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
You're going to the finals, but.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Who's gonna stop somebody from drinking during that celebration?

Speaker 4 (10:54):
And my only thing is just and the final point
is that just felt like, couldn't you have gotten more?
That's the big You're letting a generational talent go, Rob.
This isn't brandon Ingram, this isn't Zion, this isn't you
know some other good players around the law. He's a
good young player like him, he's in Tyrese Halliburton, a
generational talent go. That was the biggest part. And again

(11:19):
and who you paired ad with? But it says, yeah,
I've just haven't seen something like this in quite some
time with a compound. I mean, it just got worse
and worse and worse and worse and worse for the Mavericks.
And it's just the fans got to be sick. They
showed us a shot of Mark Cuban the other night
and he just was like, what the heck just happened?

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I don't know why he paid he sold the too
did and thought he was going to run the team.
Really he gives you who buys your store and then
let you run.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
The store, right right. I'm just like it has to
be like what just happened. We were a well run
in the finals last year. He sold out. Well, that's
what you did, Yeah, he chose to.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
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Speaker 2 (12:08):
Is that what we're doing? Okay?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I know, I'm just trying to tell you it look
even worse. We'll continue that conversation next to you. You
know you know you read a teleproxton when you read it.
Oh no, it's up.

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Speaker 1 (12:22):
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Speaker 4 (14:00):
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(14:22):
I talking about the latest with Kyrie and just the Mavericks,
and for me, it's just, man, it just just I
haven't seen anything like this where it just kept getting
worse for a team or franchise and quite some time,
and that's what it seems like it's happening for the Mavericks.
You still say, hey, you're okay with it because they
must know something.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
It ain't hoops.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
It can't be hoops. It's illogical if it's hoops, So it.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Can't be Maybe maybe is you praying it's like it can't.
I choosing not believe this will be hoop.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I can't believe it's hoop eight seven, seven ninety nine
on Fox taking your calls.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Who we got all right, Blonde Sea Seahawks fan and
Olympia watching what's happening?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio Rob.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Parker and Kelvin Washington Brash talking Tuesday, How are you
guys doing that? Man?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
You showed down to a side. Does all of it?
We appreciate you?

Speaker 5 (15:13):
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Speaker 2 (15:15):
So you know, I love it.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
You know, Alex is gonna be playing those bangers tomorrow.
But my thing with this whole trade is the new
kind of trend. You know, we're kind of a trendy
society here, especially as younger generation. It is to absolutely
fry Nico Harrison. I mean, if he kind of deserves it,
like trade un away guy like Luka Doncic, you know
you're gonna get that type of flock. But I don't
think that this is, you know, gonna make the Mavericks
look so terrible after this trade. You know, this injury

(15:40):
because of one thing, Anthony Davis is not on the court,
you know, like this is just out there injured doing
this thing. So I think that this is not really
the Maverick's fault here that Kyrie got hurt. I mean,
who's to say that if Luka Doncic was there Kyrie Irving,
you know, would he get this injury. Who knows, probably right.
But my other thing too, with this whole thing is

(16:02):
it's like Anthony Davis isn't on the court, and that's
what makes it look bad. I don't think Kyrie getting
hurt makes the trade look bad. It's just Anthony Davis
not being there. It's a lack of production and the
Mavericks are really going to miss it without Kyrie Irving,
especially what you're missing.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
But hold on, Seahawks fans, you're missing Kyrie goes down.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
That sucks. We all, Oh man, it's terrible. But I
have Luca still going. That's the difference. You don't have Luca.
So Kyrie going down ends everything. Because AD's down. He'll
be back at some point. But Kyrie going down, if
he went down and I still had Luca, You're like,
all right, we got something still call.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Appreciate you, Thank you. Who's next, Brian in Michigan? You're
on they couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Brian?

Speaker 6 (16:43):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (16:43):
What's going on? Fellas?

Speaker 8 (16:44):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
You?

Speaker 7 (16:45):
Hey? Good show yesterday? Man, good shows last week too.
I listened all week last man.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Appreciate you me know that, we appreciate you.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
Hey. I just want to say, you know, the Mavericks
couldn't help the Kyrie re injury. I don't think it
makes them look bad. I'm with Rob one hundred and
fifty percent on this. This Luca, there's a reason why
these guys did not give him three hundred and fifty
million dollars. He does not prepare his body at his

(17:14):
age to go till he's forty, like Lebron or even
a Derrick Hentry in the NFL. And and I mean
in five years, man, they know this guy's gonna be
doing keke stand.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Come on, beat sposed all them out be The other.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
Thing is too Calvin, you know you mentioned earlier about
you know they they had to be able to real,
to be able to real Luca in and do something
with him. Have you ever tried to tell a twenty
five year old guy not to go party?

Speaker 8 (17:42):
Man?

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Right, you're said than done?

Speaker 4 (17:44):
No, I think there's I think the biggest thing that's
a great point. I think my thing is can he
find my Obviously we don't all know what he's doing.
But Kenny five moderation meeting, like if you watched the
last dance after every game. First thing, Pippin Jordan everybody
was crack open a brew and smoke some No, but
they didn't look like So I'm saying that's no, no, no, no,
there's no, there's no denying that never looked like one

(18:06):
one hundred percent. But what I'm saying is so clearly
having a brew, having a cigar is not the issue
in and of itself. So it's can Luca find that
balance of all right, you can have it brew, but
you gotta be working out harder. Can he find that?
And does he ever have to be Jordan Kobe or
Lebron No? But can he find a happy medium? It
will be interesting to me.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Andre in Massachusetts. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Dreight?

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Hey, what's going on? Thanks for taking the call and listen.
Can Luca find a cheeseburger or or a big mac?
You know, all this talk about is conditioning and going forward.
Thick boy. Luca had the Dallas Mavericks in the NBA Final.
He did okay, So so all to talk about, you know,
you want to make him out all of a sudden,
it beat a round mounded rebounds like Charles Barkay at
Auburn in the nineteen eighties. But the difference being Luca's

(18:53):
been given giving people fits since he came into the NBA.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
And I get you, and there's no doubt. I'm not
going to dispute that. But andre I could show you
the video a thousand times. You just win the Western
Conference Finals, You're going to the NBA Finals, You're you're
of legal drinking age, and your team is celebrating, and
the assistant general manager comes over and takes a beer

(19:17):
out of your hand.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Tell me that that is not he broke the regiment
or whatever?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Was andre am I wrong or not? You saw the video,
There's something, there's something there that doesn't make sense on
why he can't have a beer to celebrate going to
the finals.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
And I don't dispute the fact that Luca was out
there living the vita loca. But the point is what
do people say, Well, deal with it until we can
replace it. Things were going well, it hadn't gone off
the rails, which for me comes back to my seminar point.
It doesn't have to do with basketball. It has to
do with the Addison family, the ownership group, and they
are furious that they cannot get a casino attached to

(19:56):
the arena.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
No, that's not come on that, but that's to trade
hooka dontri I mean that's.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Wait a minute, did you just slide in there? Come
on man, Yes, you've been doing good this whole show.
You had to get one hookah. Don Gilbert Arena steal it.
But he can't steal it, Alex, I'm gonna need to
pass me the hookah song now the bass me to hookah?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Hey even fast me to.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Hook andre Andre. I hear you with the casino and
all that talk. I don't know how trading Luca is
going to get you the casino bill because it was
getting back at the NBA. X files that that's what
it is. Getting back at the NBA.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Give me the tenfoil hats, that's what. What is the
underground reported getting.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Back getting back to what? I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
How do they get back.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
At the NBA?

Speaker 4 (20:38):
The underground reporting and mystery X files? Is that day
your newsday? I'm just telling that. Yes, it is my
job to report where people are thinking out there. Okay,
so I'm steve the saga for two seconds here.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Okay. People are saying, don't want Yes, it's reporting reporting.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
No, I'm only report awarding the ten foils. Okay, listen,
two seconds, give it to me. I'm serious. Though. People
are like, they wanted a casino, couldn't get it. I
told you this, right, So then now it's almost like
the movie Major League.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
You can't get a casino.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
The state of Texas doesn't have gambling.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
And the NBA wouldn't let him add it on to
the side of the building. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
And so they're saying, I'm mad at the league, so
I'm gonna try to do anything I can't to. They
want them leave Dallas, and so help us leave. We're
ruining the team, will look like we don't know we're doing.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
We can go somewhere.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
We're gonna reward a team to Las Vegas because he
ruined the team. And down here the music that makes sense.
You hear the music. We're gonna reward you with Las
Vegas because you ruined the team.

Speaker 8 (21:36):
In most conspiracy theories in all areas of life, do
not make sense.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
I'm just telling you what the streets are saying because
they're not done through thinking logic some real stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Here's Steve de Seger's really tru It would be like uh.

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Speaker 2 (22:13):
Akax, Christian, what's going on? How are you?

Speaker 8 (22:17):
Hey? Guys?

Speaker 6 (22:17):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 8 (22:18):
There's not a lot happening here in Dallas on my beat,
so it's been pretty quiet.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Yeah, just nothing to talk about. I don't even know
why you're here. It's nothing to talk about. Man, we
just had a conversation. I don't know if you've got
a chance to hear we're talking about. Kyrie goes down
and obviously you're sad for him. He's following, you know what,
He's found itself, averaging twenty five a game, looking good
basketball wise. But I think you can attest as well.
He seems to have really found himself, even as a person,

(22:46):
kind of just seems to be extraordinarily confident and rooted
and grounded who he is.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
So it's terrible what happened here.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
But just walk us through the last few weeks and
what it's been like and just the chaos from fans
upset about the Luca trade, us being blinded by the
Luca trade.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Eighty goes down. Just walk us through the last few weeks.

Speaker 8 (23:06):
Yeah, the trajectory of the Dallas Mavericks franchise changed in
about ten weeks. Two days before Christmas, Luke and Kyrie
both played. They beat Portland at home. They looked pretty good.
They were nineteen to ten, number four in offense, number
eleven a defense. You thought at the time, Hey, look,
this looks like a contender. They made the finals last year.
Like every sign I've seen so far early in the

(23:28):
season says they're a contender. Chris's day, Luca hurts his
left calf. The Lakers come to town in early January.
That is when Rob Flink and Nico Harrison discussed the trade.
February first, they actually do the Luca trade that forces
Kyrie to play super high minutes total. You could argue,
or you could argue not. I mean, I see both
sides of it that that contributed to Kyrie, you know,

(23:50):
planting awkwardly in his left knee and tears his acl
And here we are where the Mavericks had two Elite
arts at the beginning of the season and last year
and they made a final run, and now for the
next year and a half, they're gonna have no elite cards.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
This is crazy. It's crazy how fast things happened. It
was all good just a week ago, like Jay Z
once said.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But Christian, I just to me, this isn't a basketball trade.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
There's gotta be more to this with Luca and the
time that they spent around him, and we point to
the same video. There's no way you win the Western
Conference finals. You're celebrating with your team and the assistant
general manager comes over and takes a beer out of
your hands. You're not underage, You're not making a scene.
He's standing there drinking a beer. And for whatever reason,

(24:36):
they felt that that Findley that was what was proper
to do. And Luca even tried to get it back,
he said, and he said no, and he took it
and walked off.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
There's gotta be more.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
This is not a basketball trade because that makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
What is this to me?

Speaker 1 (24:51):
It feels like he was just dumped, that they didn't
feel confident in paying him three hundred and fifty million dollars.

Speaker 8 (24:58):
Yeah, look, I think what you said is is true.
I mean, Luca was going to be eligible to sign
a super Max contract this summer. That's thirty five percent
of the salary cat that that was something like three
hundred and fifty million dollars spread over five years. I mean, look,
I think you're I think you're right to commit that
amount of money. I think ownership. And then Nico Harrison,

(25:18):
the general manager, felt like, we have to really believe
in you as a basketball talent, but we also have
to believe in you as a person. And there's no
real holes to poke in Luka Doncic the basketball talent.
I think you know where they took issue was just
you know, Luka Doncic the person and the partner for
the Dallas Mavericks. I mean, look, I don't think they

(25:40):
should have done this trade, to be clear, but I
also think it is interesting that even last year, you know,
before all this stuff, like Luka doncicch was not considered
this team's leader. I mean, Kyrie Irving was really like
the locker room leader for this team, and I think
that says something. And to be clear, I don't think
they should have done this trade. I thought it was
kind of crazy at the time, and you know, these

(26:00):
these last two weeks have only shown how crazy it
was and foolish. But look, I think you're right. They
didn't feel comfortable committed three hundred and fifty million dollars
to Luke of the person because.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
We brought up I brought up the example of DeMarcus
Cousins with the Kings, and they did the same exact thing.
They just decided that we can't turn over two hundred
and nine million dollars to a guy who's just you know,
not that yeah, volatile and causing issues in the locker
room and with different people and whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
But you have to be committed. That's a ton of money.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
And if they felt like he's not doing this before
we give him the money, what in the world can
we do once we give him the money.

Speaker 8 (26:41):
I think that's a reasonable thing to think of. If
we give this guy all this money, why would Hissabits change.
You know, one thing people said to me a lot
was they didn't hold him accountable at the beginning, and
that kind of even predates Nico Harrison. That goes back
to Mark Cuban in the very beginning of you know,
not instilling like great habits and Luca early early on.

(27:03):
And I think there's some merit to that. But I
think the other side of it is there's there's so
many different ways Nico Harrison could have handle this. He
could have just wait till the end of the season
and then talked about this on the record and said, Hey,
look like Luca is a one of one talent, but
like we need him to do better in order to
be championship team. His habits have to improve. I mean,

(27:23):
I just think there's the Mavericks management could have exhausted
a lot of other options before just kind of doing
this trade in the middle of the night.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Christian Clark, the athletic NBA reporter covering the Dallas Mavericks,
our guests and the odd couple Rob and Kelvin on
a trash talking Tuesday. Christian, what about this new ownership group?
Mark Cuban still a part of it, but no longer
the majority and no longer having any real well you
could tell me more, but not so on paper, at
least having basketball control.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Of the anything about it?

Speaker 9 (27:51):
Right?

Speaker 4 (27:51):
He doesn't know anything about this and just tell us
what this new ownership is like, kind of what their
goals are and and and their disposition, if you will.

Speaker 8 (28:01):
Yeah. So, I mean a little more than a year ago,
Mark Cuban sold his majority stake in the team. He
he still owns twenty seven percent, so he's still at
the games. I mean, but he doesn't he doesn't have
to say anymore. I mean, Mark Mark Cuban, let's just
be real. I mean, he was the owner and the
GM when he was the majority owner. You know, like
this trade would have never happened if Mark Cuban is

(28:22):
still the majority owner and had final say in basketball decisions.
Now this new ownership group. Maria Maddilson is not around
all the time. I mean she comes around every so often,
but it's really her son in law, Patrick Dumont, who
worked at bear Stearns and you know, married into the family,
worked at the Sands Corporation, you know, the casino and

(28:45):
gambling can go over it like he's he's the guy
there every day. I mean he is. He is the
family's boots on the ground in Dallas. He's sitting courtside
at a lot of the games. And you know, my
kind of read on it is. I think he tried.
Like I I don't think he's super knowledgeable about basketball.
I don't. I mean, I think, you know, their expertise

(29:06):
is in real estate, which is a lot of the
reasons they built. They bought the team, like the team's
least expires that American Airline tener in twenty thirty one.
And I think this new ownership group has been pretty transparent. Hey,
we want to build a new arena, and we would
like to get gambling legalized in Texas and build an
arena casino, right, Like a lot of the reason they're
in this is to do that achieve that vision. And

(29:27):
I just don't know that Patrick Bunt knows a ton
about basketball. And I think he listens to Nico Harrison's recommendations, right,
I mean, Nicol Harrison's a D one college basketball player,
worked at Nike forever rand Nike was one of Kobe
Bryant's best friends, and so I think, you know, when
his recommendation is well we should do this, that they listen.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's going to be interesting to see just kind of
how this continues.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
And I think they'll forever be married in the sense
that you know, Luca's success or failure or whatever it
is with the Lakers, people are always going to watch
and you know, and have that same thought of what
they could have been with the Mavericks.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Christia Man, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Yes,
appreciate you. Thank you for the knowledge.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Cee Clark Underscore thirteen on Twitter. Given him a follow
all right? Last Call eight seven seven ninety nine on
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Speaker 1 (31:09):
The last car. It's last call, last call, time on the.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
We didn't have to hold it that long when Mary
was and we had a breath. You told me I
was fat to Alex. You know I can't hold it
that long. Hold on back, all right, I'm out of breath.
All right, we got.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Jack and Vermont. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio and you're the last call.

Speaker 9 (31:42):
Oh smokes, what an honor, guys, thanks for having me. Yeah,
appreciate With Jack, I'm doing great. I'm I'm covering high
school basketball for NBC five up here locally and nice.
I gotta say, gents, we're getting into that time of
year where the games mean a little bit more, playoff
runs are happening, and in Vermont, I believe we are

(32:04):
like one of only a handful of states left with
no shot clock in high school basketball.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Wow, So what how about the peach baskets? Are you
still using those sou Yeah.

Speaker 9 (32:17):
Just implement to the three point line last week. No,
I kid, But what we're what we're faced with here
is that there are the elite teams in Vermont which
they are able to get out in transition run the
half court offense, and then there are the teams that
are fundamentally sound. And every once in a while, you know,
you see the fundamentally sound teams and teams that take
their time pass the ball around the perimeter. They beat

(32:38):
those athletic teams that try to get out into the
half court and get out into transition offense. But more
times than not, the athleticism of those teams that run fast,
they just stay out. They outpace those kids. And I
just want to think that if there was a thirty
or thirty five second shot clock in high school basketball,
that there would be more offense and more chances for
kids to get better looks from the Green Mountain State,

(32:59):
because quite frankly, we just don't have that many kids
that play high level basketball out of high school.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
I get what you're saying, Yeah, I mean, if you
sped it up, you get more scoring, you get more
athleticism which showcases, and you have a chance to say, hey,
we got some real hoopers out here. But when they're
slowing and you're winning games thirty five, thirty two, nobody's
gonna be looking up that way.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
So I appreciate it. Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, they gotta get rid of that. I'm glad to
got rid of that. What was what hold on? What
was your number?

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Five and a half? So and he needed to make
one right, yes, and he missed it?

Speaker 4 (33:35):
No, man, well you still got well, no, and left
Atlanta has the ball they're gonna make.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
You're not gonna follow.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
But if they don't make a basket, do you see
what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Like, right, they're not gonna file again. They're only gonna
win by five.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
So of course it's unbelievable when you look at what's
the next Warriors?

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Looking like what's the lady? I saw that the Warriors
were up five the last I saw, But that was
a little bit ago. That was the one I didn't
like of your How about the magic was that score?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Did you see that? I can get you some scores though, yes,
I get you the.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Nicks minus five and a half. So that was before
they knew Cat was out. I guess, yeah, that was, Yeah,
that was a bad I don't see the score to
where is it? NIXA down by twelve? I mean, uh
yeah next yeah, the nextra down twelve two minutes ago.
It's not going to mate.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, I told you that that was once. You told me, Carl, Well,
but that wasn't that wasn't earlier. I thought that Madison
Square Guarden, you know what I mean? What was the
other one you needed?

Speaker 8 (34:27):
And uh?

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Magic magic the magic oh wow, one second left, the
magic of down one?

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Oh god, really this is a bad night. This could
be oh for three if this is over, yeah, this's.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
This, this is uh, this could be it's final.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
The Raptors one waite. Maybe somebody got a technical. Maybe
it was Atlanta and Milwaukee's gonna shoot? How about that
salvage me one game?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
No, I think I'm moving to Mexico. I think I
need to move. You might be all right.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
It's still fifteen almost fifteen, second eleven trade. I just
got a text right now, friend of the show, bet
mgm Lamar Mitchell.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
He said, Rob, your luck is about to turn. Keep
hammering is all right?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yes, as they build a new taxack they got put
in there exactly.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, keep going Rob any minute. Now your time.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
You're on your way.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Rob, you're doing great things. Well, I gotta go through this.
How come I just can't win? Yeah? Well, I mean.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
There's a lot of people who are now divorced and homeless.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Not me.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Why did the God take me? It's just me and
I win. I knew I should have bet on a Tuesday.
I knew I should have wore my lucky shoes. I
knew I should have worn my favorite hoodie stayed black.
I know I should have used my kids birthday I
want I looked in there. I'm jealous of Rob g.
He has Jeff Black care Now. I never knew how black.
You're also like twenty five thirty years older than him.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
You're doing well. Man, you gotta had you still got hair.
It is it is, you know.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
I I'm happy about that. I definitely will be where
you are. I'm probably twelve years away from being where
you are.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Beard.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
I'm Beard, I'm probably a year man ready.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, that's all right, I let it all out. I
feel great. That's the biggest thing. I feel great. That's
all that.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
You feel great. You're eating your baked chicken and salad
with no salad wait till we come in on Monday
and are coming in?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Are we hurry? Are we just telling our way?

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Tell you a way?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Because you gotta be naked. He can't be what. I'm
definitely gonna be naked. I mean, I am going to
be exact.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I might shave all my hair everywhere like that, about
to exhaust every little bit of Alex already has me
on a.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Six day regiment.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Alex told me to drink nothing but beats and celaries.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Ain't go lift heavy. That's him. It wasn't technical for
the bucks. I was right.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
That was you and you're lucky. It was danged up there,
not gnest. But if they don't get a basket, this
will be I'll be happy for you. You might. I feel
like you is gonna be something crazy. Yeah, I was
gonna hit it three or something crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
That's all right, it's all good. It is all good.
By the way.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
If the Warriors win, now, what are they like eight
and one with Jimmy Butlers, Well he was out the game.
They lost though, But I mean, but we'll count it
because he's on the team. But he didn't play that game.
But yeah, they are they definitely, Ah, they covered that
was the fastest fifteen seconds in the history of mankind.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Put up a shot at two. But that's incredible. There
you go. You know what I'm saying. That's Gambley right there.
There you go. Now you're happy.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
So at least you're one and one and it looks
you know, they're still never never you never know what
this warrior game, right, they're a never mind. There's oh,
good move, there's a lad yeah, never mind?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
All right? Well one and two, all right.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Tomorrow is a worship wins.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
It is Hallelujah.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is coming up next.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I never miss your radio show.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I never hear it, so I never miss it.

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