June 30, 2025 • 30 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether or not it's fair to say that LeBron James isn't serious about winning a championship anymore, argue whether this flurry of offseason roster moves around Aaron Rodgers will pay off in any meaningful way, argue about the WNBA's decision to expand and add three different franchises moving forward, and explain why they feel like Jake Paul is bad for the sport of boxing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Just before the show started, the Lakers lost a very
key member of their team last year. Three and DP
player Dorian Phinney Smith left the Lakers to take a
four year deal with the Houston Rockets. Might not seem
like a big.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Deal to the news of the day unless you're a.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Big Laker fan like we are. But one of the
reasons why that happened, Lisa Gordon Rob Parker is because
Lebron James that you know what, I know, I'm about
to be forty one years old, but I got a
fifty two million dollar player options stare at me in
the face. I'm gonna go ahead and pick that up.
And then after I pick it up, I'm gonna put
out a statement from my agent to ESPN saying I
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want to be for a championship and the Lakers are
building for the future. I understand that, but I value
a realistic chance of winning it all, making it seem
like he's gonna decide on his future in Los Angeles
depending on how the rest of this free agency thing goes.
And losing DFS not a good start. They did pivot though,
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and signed Jake Laravia. I know you guys are big
fans of his.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Well, oh yeah, I saw the movie Jake Lawrence of Arabia. No,
that's about as good as it gets. I mean, I
don't know about that. Here's my point, and I'm just
gonna say that.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
You walk in here right now, I'll be like, hey,
how you doing.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Lebron makes no sense? None of it makes sense, Kelvin.
When you're gonna be forty one and you've played twenty
years in the NBA, there's only one reason you're playing, right,
to try to win a championship. Last year you got Luca.
Everybody went to ran to the mat for you. Oh yeah,
I don't see any being out west that scares me.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Luca Lebron.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I take them many and they got knocked out in
first round, right, Okay, So to take all the money
that you can I'm against players giving money back rob
G for years, Kevin, you know I'm not into that.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
For years.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I've said I would never give any money back for years.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
But when it.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Comes to Lebron and his unique situation, he's the one
where the money that you're not playing all these years
just to play out the string, so you need help,
you need other players. It doesn't make sense to me
at all why you would need to pick up all
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that money when you need other pieces and you saw
what happened last postseason. Do you want to play twenty
three years and only win four championship? Like the longer
you play we talked about this, the worse it looks
because there ain't nothing special about four championships in twenty
three I don't care how many times you win. Four
championships in twenty three years is not that impressive. So
I think he's made a big mistake. It doesn't sound
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like he's really trying to win to me, because I
would be working closely with the Lakers. What do you
need from me in order for us to get another piece?
And you know what I mean, and really trying to
work to get this out all the other players. No,
let them figure it out. But Lebron in his situation,
his age, is no way in the world. He should
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just be taking the most money. That's going to hinder
the organization.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think Lebron is lebroning, and I think the Lakers
are lakering. You have two organizations, which I do believe
is going to be changing now in the new ownership.
But Lebron is doing what Lebron does. Lebron is going
to protect Lebron. He's gonna look out for Lebron. I
think he took his haircut when he went to college
also known as Miami Heat University, and I think that
was his one time where he said, all right, d way,
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you taking one too, all right?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
See boss, you're gonna take one too, all right. Everybody
put their hands in, say haircut on three one two three, haircut,
and they all took a haircut. And I think since
then he said, nah, everything I went through, everyone enduring,
I'm not doing and I know what I mean to
this league and I'm not doing.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Does it hinder him? Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Could we be looking at the last, you know, four
years of his career if you already include a couple
of years and maybe the next couple of years similar
to Kobe. Maybe it won't be injury wise because Ken,
because Kobe was all battered down, beat down, injured.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
We knew that.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But remember Kobe wasn't taking no haircut either, and I
think they just realized. I think those caliber players are like, nah.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Kobe wasn't trying to get catch Michael Jordan, like like,
that's that's where Lebron is.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And I get, But Kobe, thanks, But you know the
thing always told you Rob, And I truly believe I
think he knows. For those who say Lebron's to go,
he's to go. And I think those who say nah,
he never, he won't be. So I don't think it matters.
Is more like he can't if he wins five, he
doesn't get Jordan, what is he playing for? So I
think he wants a great question. I think he absolutely
wants the money. I think he absolutely wants to still
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just relevant be around. I truly believe he wants to
try to play with Bryce. Maybe not with the Lakers,
maybe it's with Cleveland. The ceremonial year with Cleveland. I
think he wants Bryce in the NBA, which is very likely. Uh,
whether he's a you know, second round, sixtieth pick, whatever,
But I think it's likely.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And I think he's like, hey, if a championship happens,
by happen, stance not great. But this is what he's done.
And this is what the Lakers do. You put in
some sweat equity with us, You be there for us,
you want us a ring you are, we are indebted
to you. This is what they've done. You know, you
and I have talked about they keep the rambuses around. Uh,
they keep people. Kobe was different Kobe. I'm not arguing.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
They got with a shock. I mean like, like, let's
not act.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Like but they drafted this when you draft his son. No.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
But but but my point is.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
He's not. Kobe was a Laker, you know what I
mean from they want to put it twenty years. So
they did that. They didn't make the playoffs his last
five years whatever. They game all the money. It was
bad business, it really was. But they felt like Kobe
was and that's.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
What they do.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
They keep their head coaches or Byron Scott like, they
bring people in the Laker world. Magic is in it
just out. Magic is in, magic is out. This is
kind of what the Lakers do but this makes no.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Sense for Lebron.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I'm that serious, like to have two years where you,
especially if you don't do anything with Luca, you think
that looks good on his resume that you had Luca
five times First Team All NBA and you're not.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
There's some couple of years with AD that's like, all right,
y'all should have but they couldn't even go to the finals.
Maybe don't win it, but you go or at least
not or at least get in the playoffs without the
playing like and he had some of those years with
AD two where you would be like, all right, I'm
not saying y'all had to beat everybody losing the first
round or only get to the second round.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So I just think Lebron is trying at this point
dictate everything. I'm gonna get all the money. I'm gonna
put the pressure on y'all money. I'm already gonna put
the already got my out. My out is we ain't
have enough. Then I go to play with Cleveland for
a ceremony a year he ain't going or you know
wherever the Knicks for finally one year whatever it is,
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and then and then he rides off to the sunset.
So I think he has it set up where he
can only win from it. We win a ring, great,
we lose, we ain't have enough. I don't know that's
how he's trying to play it, position it well.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
But that that don't make any sense to me because
then your agent comes out talking about trying to win
like like they are.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
We're gonna monitor.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
What they couldn't even does Lebron right?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Does Lebron really? Dude? I'm not.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I'm the first one. I don't believe anybody should give
money back. But in his situation where what he's doing,
the reason he's still playing, there's nothing to play for.
He's the all time leading scorer, Like, there's nothing to
play for.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
If he claims rings don't.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Matter, right, and he's done is his career and he's
great and the people think he's good, what what is
left to be honest? Okay, you play with your son,
he's trying to play with both of them, rupp, Well,
that's gonna happen. It the ain't gonna be here.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
No, No, I agree. I'm not saying that because maybe ownership.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Is going to be in with that. I don't. I
don't believe that I don't think the Lakers are bigger
than that. You did it, you know, and I just
can't see them if Lebron and Luca and they're not winning,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And the gist Mark Waters and his new ownership ain't
doing that. But he absolutely trying to play a Brice. Absolutely,
he's gonna play a Brice and called a career absolutely.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. It's simple. If
Lebron is serious about winning a championship, why didn't he
take a Bay Cup. We'll continue that conversation next with you.
Are you with Kelvin, He's just he wants the money
and he doesn't feel like he wants to win or
I'm just thinking it's just selfish. He should be trying
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at all costs to give himself a chance to win
if you're going to play.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And that makes what end? I'm with you, But Rob,
he is saying, I'm Lebron. I don't take haircuts. I'm
worth it. Look what I've done for you, look it
up down the league. I'm getting my fifty two meal.
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Speaker 4 (09:46):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
The Pittsburgh Steelers made another move. This has been the
off season of activity for Pittsburgh, which is rare for them.
Earlier on Monday, before NBA Free agency kicked off, all
the fireworking out of the NFL because the Pittsburgh Steelers
executed a trade with the Miami Dolphins that saw them
send All Pro safety Minka Fitzpatrick and a future draft
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pick to the Miami Dolphins for All Pro corner Jalen
Ramsey and do everything tight end John new Smith. The
move reunites John new Smith with their offensive coordinator ars
Arthur Smith, and more importantly, it helps bolster at defense,
which was already the highest paid in football, but now
they add the all pro Jalen Ramsey. Appears that Pittsburgh
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is going all in around Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
You want to go first, you go ahead. I'm all
in for this. Pittsburgh hasn't won a playoff game since
twenty sixteen. We're going on ten years.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Okay, just forget about getting to they haven't won a
playoff game, So proud organization.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
The heat is on.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I think for the fan base, for Mike Tomlin, front
office ownership people are like, okay, and I'm cool with
this because the only reason you would go get an
Aaron Rodgers is you have to be all in and
you're not rebuilding one foot in, one foot out. That
makes no sense. So you put something together and you
hope that you can have a team that could possibly
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win a p I'm not saying they're gonna win the
championship or whatever. But I do like, if I'm a
Steelers fan, I'm tired of the idea of finishing over
five hundred. That didn't mean anything to me. I never
that whole streak with Mike Tom That doesn't do anything
for me. Early in his career when he won the
Super Bowl, the respiration like that was good. This and
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then when they went to the Super Bowl against Aaron
Rodgers and the Packers and they lost, you know what
I mean, like, Okay, they won one, they went to
another one, like those were the Pittsburgh days. You don't
have to win all the time. No one's gonna win
all the time. But now you're talking about twenty sixteen.
I mean, my god, how long ago. That's when I
moved to LA I mean, I've been here forever now,
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said his gray hair. I didn't have any of this
in my go team when I showed up here ten
almost ten years ago. So that's a long time. And
it just makes sense to me to be all in
because after this, if you want to replace the coach,
rebuild you know what I mean, tear it down or whatever,
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or you think, hey, we made a run. All people
care about is all you in the mix, and can
I get to the dance and have a chance to win, Like,
anything can happen. Guys could be injured, you get somebody
could throw a bad pick. Like, there's so many things
that can happen to you that you could take a
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look at the team that's supposed to beat you, the
Detroit Lions or the number one seed. They're nine and
a half point favors, They're at home and guess what
their quarterback what's to bend throose three interceptions in a
fumble right, and all of a sudden, the Commanders are
on their way and not the Lions. Like, that's what
can happen. So with this, if Pittsburgh gets gonna go
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out of their way to bring in Aaron Rodgers, they
need to do these steps, put the best people around,
make some moves. You can't go with what you had
last year, you know what I mean, and just say, well,
the only difference is we're just gonna change the quarterback.
They've made moves and I'm for once, I'm.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Cool with it. I'm actually not mad at making moves.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I just don't like who they made the moves for
as much as uh as maybe you do or some
other people, I feel like it's a reshuffling of the deck.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I feel like it's you know you if you got it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Rob g always has a nice haircut he gives himself,
and he got the part on his left side. It
would be like getting the same haircut, but they're putting
a part on the right side and be like, yo,
I did something different.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
To me, it's the.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Same car, different paint, same girlfriend, just got a different name.
She looked the same act the same, just got a
different name. And that's my thing, Rob I actually and
with the all in to me, some examples would be
when the Bucks were all in, when they got Tom Brady,
they brought back drunk, they got they got Ab and
that team to me, was already Taylor made Tom and
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a couple of other pieces was ready to do something,
especially in a bad division as they were in back then.
The Rams when they were like, man, we just need
a Von Miller, we need an Odell Beckham junior, we
need a Jalen Ramsey, as the Steelers just got a
younger Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So to me those things made difference.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Is when you had the quarterback who was still willing
and Dylan and you say, a couple of piece here,
one piece there, we should be good to go. I
don't think Aaron Rodgers, And again I don't think he's
gonna be bad. Let me be very clear, but I
don't think he gets you over the hump. And I
was looking at Crunch. I disagree with you when you
talk about the hump. They won ten games with two quarterbacks.
They weren't happy with like that, like that. So I'm
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glad you and I get what you're saying. But my
thing rob to that is Aaron Rodgers is another year older, right,
and that's just anybody we just start up here to
talk about the lebron last hour. He's another year older,
with a new offense, a new system, and that team
where he's already saying, yeah, this might be my last.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I guess this will probably be my last.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
To me, what it will take for them to win,
you need to have had something a massive shift. And
if you're looking to win a playoff game but they can't,
that is embarrassing, right, No, it's.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Not because you can't win a super Bowl when you
haven't won a playoff game, but you got to first
win a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
But what I'm saying, I'd rather just win a playoff
game with my new guy, who is we're building towards something,
meaning okay, just winning the wild card game with Aaron
Rodgers and then you lose in the next round and
he's gone next year. It was like, what was the point?
But okay, we won one wild card game. To me,
I would rather build. I'd rather have my Jaden Daniels,
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you know, my young guy Michael Pennick, junior bow Nicks,
and we got there.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Now we won.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Okay, now we're trying to keep moving. Maybe you don't,
but maybe with that new guy, just like Pennix. They
the Falcons had a chance to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
They put them in and they actually didn't make the
playoffs because they put a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Because they're trying to build it.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
If the Falcons man, you're excited about because you're excited
about what's the come. They saw Kirk Cousin throw more
interceptions than anything. We're still about trying to get into
the play I'm saying it building towards something. I think
as a as a fan.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Have that quarterback. They don't have that guy in place,
and they didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
They were talking about this, and that's because they didn't
want to run. No, they didn't believe. No, they didn't
believe that bros got no hear me out.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
They didn't believe that those quarterbacks today they think there's
a better quarterback UH class next year.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But if they're trying to win the playoff game, they
ain't gonna get him. Well, but you know that's what
I'm saying. You would have to be building. You can
either suck. You look, you either suck, be building towards
something where you this suck like you think they ought
and they could get their quarterback and they're going, don't suck.
That's the problem set like you got eight to nine.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
I want to to be I think right here and
I want to do this today. I think this will
be your worst football take of all seasons. I've already
put it out there. You got them for eight wins.
I want to put a bet on that that you
gotta wait see what TJ. Why I got that's a
massive part of it. That's the best.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
But you're telling me now that they're eight guys.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm gonna tell you why because if it's the only
move and I was gonna get to this sir. The
only reason I bring that up is because if TJ.
Whe was telling Robb g this, he's the one to
me that Obviously he's great. He's great, we know that.
But if they get a haul for him right now,
you all of a sudden, you get another receiver, you
get a back, like if they get a haul for TJ. Watt,
then we're having a different conversation. So I have to
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say that's a massive part because now you might be
bringing in some very good pieces similar to what I mentioned.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But I said the team is not good even where
they are now.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I'm saying, if you bring in how many people, yeah,
it's not good. So I'm saying if you get a
top receiver, say you get a number one or a.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Time said Aaron Rodgers, is not right.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Because I'm saying, rob you need everything. When you're not
that great anymore, you need everything around you. If this
were Aaron rod six years ago, he good to go
because he's.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
That six years ago. Patrick Mahomes won fifteen games with
the same.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Stats he's not.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Patrick Mahomes won fifteen game with the six a great defense,
were lucky, and a lot of things. The three games
a lot of but then they had a great, great defense,
and then he went after and he made the I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
You and then and then they were able to get
to the super Bowl somehow, even though they weren't really good.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Here's that they were really good. They just they definitely,
I'll give you a handful of games he was a
miskick or their kick hit the thing went in. But
the other part was that they officials, they knew how
to win. And that's the difference of where Aaron Rodgers at.
It's not that he's gonna have horrible games every game.
It's that when it comes to making the play, if
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it's tied game and it's third and eight, he might
throw for six. Then they got a punt and where
the difference is now At this point, Patrick Mahomes can
run for that third eight and they end up winning
the game by field goal. Wasn't a great game, he
didn't play his best. He made three to four plays
a game that won the game. I don't believe Aaron
Rodgers can do that for the bulk of a season.
That's the difference right there. And if you look at
their numbers total offense, they were twenty second passing offense,
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they were twenty seventh rushing.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
They were eleventh that got rid of. Now you hear
hold on.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
So this what I'm going with this, rob They did
all that with Russell Wilson, who was essentially was slightly
Russell Wilson will that they had two quarterbacks last year.
You got know, I'm saying they were slightly better. Russell
Wilson was slightly better than Aaron Rodgers. Just I'm talking
here on both tarch Jans and so to me, if
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I got the centilly same guy and one is five
six years younger, and if that's kind of how we're
running it back, why not running back with that guy
instead of the guy who's another year older and who's
still coming off that Achilles injury from a year ago,
year and a half ago. Whatever it HAPs over, I
mean to me, I'm just I don't get that part
of it. And they're all in and I just see
a bunch of swaps. Okay, Mika Fitzpatrick, Jaylen Ramsey, maybe
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a slight hair in Jalen at this point, Jalen ain't
Jalen when he went to the Rams. At this point,
you get George George Pickens is really good, but little
hot head, a little crazy. I'll give you that. So
you go and leave him and get DJ me DK Metcalf.
It's not as if you had pickings on the outside
and DK Metcalf.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Then I'm like, yeah, but they thought that.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
They got pickings because of some issue.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Right, But I'm saying you didn't. So now I only
got a guy. Though.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You get what I'm saying. It's not like you have
a DJ Metcalp. You said he's just a guy. No,
I'm saying, I'm saying a singular guy mean I have one,
just like you're not adding everything you're doing.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think the idea you're talking about eight games, I
think your way off. I think whether they make whether TJ.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
The Ravens, that's I'll split you with the With the Browns,
splitch it with them, they might beat win both games.
With the MIC I ain't for I splitch it for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
With the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
They ain't mean the Bengals, they mean the Mangles both
and so to me, they just did a bunch of
swapping out George.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
They won more.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
They four and one with a quarterback who can't throw
last year had to start the season. They all went
down here after that, No, it didn't. They won five
in a row.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
They went after that, Ruck five and after that Ruck
said they went down.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
They went after that. They knew sixth straight.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
They knew what they were doing, and that the idea
that the quarterback that they had wasn't a guy that
they wanted. That's why they didn't keep them.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I don't agree with you. I'm agreeing with you. I
don't agree. I agree that that's what they chose because
clearly that's what they did. I don't agree they.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Watched them in practice and all the other reasons. He's
way younger, he's got an upside, All folly and all listeners.
How long you've been covering this league? Since nineteen eighty
six NFL. I thought the NFL was eighty six, no
Baseball and NFL eighty seven, So since nineteen eighty seven,
you're telling me teams ain't made a mistake.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Sure they have, but that's all I'm saying. I agree
they no, we want to win the quarterback like that.
It was drafted high. Who's been on his four team
in three and four years. Everybody's wrong, everybody. I just
feel like I want tobody.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
You tell me about a quarterback has been traded that
much or not wanted on his fourth Wads Bears, Steelers
and that and the Jets. And that's all in how
many years? That's in four years? Are you talking about
the trade the last three years he's been on three team?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And I just but to me, they're just doing the same.
It's just a it's the same haircut part on the
other side, it's the same car, different paint.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
To me, they just swapped out. Guys.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
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Speaker 4 (22:38):
All right, Rob, g the box and Knowing over the weekend,
Let's get to that real quick.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You're talking about Yontay Wilder. No, you're not talking about that.
You're talking about Jake Paul. Ask me how much I've
watched Jake Paul? How much is you watch? Welling a
couple of highlights. But you think I'm gonna watch his
fight the Tyson one? Remember I told you that. No,
I've watched you call it, but I remember we watched here.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Rob caught the illegal stream exactly.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
I caught the legal stream, but you know I'm not
giving Jake Paul two Nichols, all right, Well, a lot
of people gave Jake Paul two Nichols over the weekend
because he beat former professional boxer Julio Sayser Chavis Junior
on Saturday, easy decision.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
As a result, guys, get this, He has officially moved
is at the top fifteen of the WBA cruiserweight division,
which means he is eligible for a title shot.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yes, Jake Paul, who has fought basketball players, UFC fighters
and retired boxers, is now eligible for a world title fight.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Was see if he gets it. But after the.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Fight, a current champion WBC superwaterweight champ, Virgil Ortizi Virgil
thank you, put out a tweet that just went in
on Jake Paul. Here's what it reads in part, Jake
Paul is scamming the entire world with his circus fights,
selling his real fights, but the entire world continues to
eat it all up and then have the nerve to
(23:58):
be disappointed because the circuits fight they pay the watch
aren't real fights. He is single handedly destroying the sport
and everyone else is enabling it.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I'm with him, I'm serious, like, like this is you
know you talk about it, well, there's nothing to do.
Just what's the big deal? Just get it, watch it,
bring something. But you you're enabling him to continue to
do this and not deliver the product.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
People watch train wrecks, people gawk on the highway, right,
they might see somebody's leg off or something, you know.
Like I'm just saying, like so, just because a lot
of people are paying attention to what it doesn't mean
that it's good. And that's the problem I have, Like,
when you pay money, you you can make this thing
even worse. And what as a guy who covered boxing
(24:47):
and whatnot, we're boxing is headed And now for them
to even consider him getting a fight, you know, a
title fight, Yeah, because they see the money that's attached
to him, do you know what I mean? And they
want some of it, whether he's earned it or not
or had legitimate fights to get to this point. I
just it is a mockery. It's a shame, and I
(25:09):
just won't have any part of it. I think boxing
has been destroyed and Jake Paul is a bad thing
for boxing.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
That's me. Here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Though, Rob, I blame boxing boxing when you mentioned it
the heyday. I mean, obviously boxing has been a big
American stable for fights, you know, but back in the seventies,
the eighties, the nineties, and even early two thousand and man,
you had that, dude, there's no way you missed a
fill in the blank fight. I don't care if Felix
(25:36):
Trinidad to to to Oscar de la Hoya to Roy
Jones Jr. To Tyson to Evander you boxing was real deal.
Where what we do we at the fight. We're at
the fight party. We're going to a sports bar. My
buddies got like you made sure this Saturday night you
could bring a date. If Rob g said, hey man,
(25:57):
everybody come to the crib, big boxing fight. Come on,
we're gonna get some drinks and food, have a good time.
You could bring your lady like a new date. Hayes,
big fire, My gosh, let's go. I sted a fight
girl dressing up for the fight. It was real deal.
Everybody was excited about fights, and I blamed boxing for
starting to get too money hungry, just starting the cherry
pick fights. Who wouldn't fight a lot of this? People
(26:19):
say with Floyd Mayweather, I'm only gonna fight him. Well,
I'm not gonna fight that. You used to have the
best of the best of the best, who said to themselves, Rob,
I'm not the best if I don't fight him.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
But but but I'm with you on the boxing and
that tip in Floyd and Floyd stopped me from watching boxing. Okay,
we used to have the fights at the barber, but
I used to stop because they weren't entertaining.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
And it was always the fight that.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
We wanted were going up, and the fight that we
wanted we didn't get right right, We didn't get the
fight when we should have gotten it.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And my point now with Jake Paul.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
And him just fighting these has been never was is
and all these Tyson and whatnot, it is a mockery.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
It is.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
And that's why didn't want Mike Tyson, Remember I told
you don't. I didn't want him to be a part
of that because he's a real fighter.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
One of the best of the best.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
What they're doing and this check and this is the
problem Rob, with where we are now. And I think
there's a large group of young people and I was
telling Rob g this who have grown up on social media,
who actually don't know what classic, iconic or great is.
And what I mean is they don't know about great
fights when fights were a thing. They don't know about
(27:31):
great movies because now all these movies are Netflix movies
and Amazon, where they're not great. They just get a
big name to make a pay. Hey, Kevin Hard, Adam Sandler,
here's one hundred million dollars for five movies. And they're
cranking abut movie movie movie movies just to crank out
and get past the deal where the movies aren't great.
But the kids are just streaming and they don't know
what iconic with great, with classic is anymore. So now
(27:53):
they'll tolerate anything, and they'll tolerate the current of the
moments we are and that's where we are. So boxing,
they don't know great boxing Robin four. So they just
know Jake Paul is popular. He looks serious in the ring,
he looks and watches his new documentary of him getting
in shape to fight, and to them, that is a fight.
There are eighteen year olds right now who genuinely look
(28:14):
at Jake Paul as an actual real fighter like that,
then in their mind, a boxer is Jake Paul because
that's all they known. He's mastered social media, he's master clicks,
he's master cloud, and he's master views. But but mony
thing is like, the performances aren't great. It ain't like,
you know, it's a great fight though, I don't know
any I'm saying, not me. I'm saying I'm sixteen. I'm
(28:35):
sure this is the bro dude there right, This is
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
They watch it, but they watched the Mike Tyson thing
and thought, what what what? What they come away with
that after watching that.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Mike was Mike Tyson wasn't that great? Okay, now they
can go, oh, y'all been telling me Mike Tyson was
that guy while my life, you know, he ain't that great, see,
I mean he was. The fight was booty and he
has showed his booty. That's what they're gonna take. It
was double boody. It was double cheeked up the fight.
How'd you think of the fight? Kids on Mike Tyson
double cheeks his career and the fight and we got
(29:05):
to sit there like no, I'll tell you. In nineteen
eighty eighty was cold twenty years old. He was the
world chip. It was the world Tevin and they don't
want to hear that. And now Jake Paul is a
real fighter in the mind, that's what the worst part
about this is.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And boxing should be a shape boxon.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
The idea that they're gonna give him a chance at
a title fighting.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Because why wasn't They Now rob everything and there's no
such thing as standard, there's no thing such thing as integrity,
there's no such thing as standing on business. It's views,
it's clicks, it's cloud, it's streaming, it's it's all washed
up now there's no Have.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
You listened to radio lately?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
And I don't mean classic eighties, I'm talking about new
modern radio, Dude. Who they're listening to now is an embarrassment?
Is too When I, you and I we turn on
the radio, let's just say it was a traditional just
kind of your traditional hip hop and R and B.
You turned on Luther Whitney, Brandy Monica, Mary J. Blige, Tupac,
(29:57):
Biggie jay Z, outcast. That was a normal, normal day
when talent actually mattered. Now it's who's the best at
getting views, not necessarily talented. I'm dropping bars and I'm
done
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Just before the show started, the Lakers lost a very
key member of their team last year. Three and DP
player Dorian Phinney Smith left the Lakers to take a
four year deal with the Houston Rockets. Might not seem
like a big.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Deal to the news of the day unless you're a.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Big Laker fan like we are. But one of the
reasons why that happened, Lisa Gordon Rob Parker is because
Lebron James that you know what, I know, I'm about
to be forty one years old, but I got a
fifty two million dollar player options stare at me in
the face. I'm gonna go ahead and pick that up.
And then after I pick it up, I'm gonna put
out a statement from my agent to ESPN saying I
(01:01):
want to be for a championship and the Lakers are
building for the future. I understand that, but I value
a realistic chance of winning it all, making it seem
like he's gonna decide on his future in Los Angeles
depending on how the rest of this free agency thing goes.
And losing DFS not a good start. They did pivot though,
(01:23):
and signed Jake Laravia. I know you guys are big
fans of his.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Well, oh yeah, I saw the movie Jake Lawrence of Arabia. No,
that's about as good as it gets. I mean, I
don't know about that. Here's my point, and I'm just
gonna say that.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
You walk in here right now, I'll be like, hey,
how you doing.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Lebron makes no sense? None of it makes sense, Kelvin.
When you're gonna be forty one and you've played twenty
years in the NBA, there's only one reason you're playing, right,
to try to win a championship. Last year you got Luca.
Everybody went to ran to the mat for you. Oh yeah,
I don't see any being out west that scares me.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Luca Lebron.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I take them many and they got knocked out in
first round, right, Okay, So to take all the money
that you can I'm against players giving money back rob
G for years, Kevin, you know I'm not into that.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
For years.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I've said I would never give any money back for years.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
But when it.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Comes to Lebron and his unique situation, he's the one
where the money that you're not playing all these years
just to play out the string, so you need help,
you need other players. It doesn't make sense to me
at all why you would need to pick up all
(02:47):
that money when you need other pieces and you saw
what happened last postseason. Do you want to play twenty
three years and only win four championship? Like the longer
you play we talked about this, the worse it looks
because there ain't nothing special about four championships in twenty
three I don't care how many times you win. Four
championships in twenty three years is not that impressive. So
I think he's made a big mistake. It doesn't sound
(03:09):
like he's really trying to win to me, because I
would be working closely with the Lakers. What do you
need from me in order for us to get another piece?
And you know what I mean, and really trying to
work to get this out all the other players. No,
let them figure it out. But Lebron in his situation,
his age, is no way in the world. He should
(03:30):
just be taking the most money. That's going to hinder
the organization.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I think Lebron is lebroning, and I think the Lakers
are lakering. You have two organizations, which I do believe
is going to be changing now in the new ownership.
But Lebron is doing what Lebron does. Lebron is going
to protect Lebron. He's gonna look out for Lebron. I
think he took his haircut when he went to college
also known as Miami Heat University, and I think that
was his one time where he said, all right, d way,
(03:56):
you taking one too, all right?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Cool?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
See boss, you're gonna take one too, all right. Everybody
put their hands in, say haircut on three one two three, haircut,
and they all took a haircut. And I think since
then he said, nah, everything I went through, everyone enduring,
I'm not doing and I know what I mean to
this league and I'm not doing.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Does it hinder him? Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Could we be looking at the last, you know, four
years of his career if you already include a couple
of years and maybe the next couple of years similar
to Kobe. Maybe it won't be injury wise because Ken,
because Kobe was all battered down, beat down, injured.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
We knew that.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But remember Kobe wasn't taking no haircut either, and I
think they just realized. I think those caliber players are like, nah.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Kobe wasn't trying to get catch Michael Jordan, like like,
that's that's where Lebron is.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And I get, But Kobe, thanks, But you know the
thing always told you Rob, And I truly believe I
think he knows. For those who say Lebron's to go,
he's to go. And I think those who say nah,
he never, he won't be. So I don't think it matters.
Is more like he can't if he wins five, he
doesn't get Jordan, what is he playing for? So I
think he wants a great question. I think he absolutely
wants the money. I think he absolutely wants to still
(04:59):
just relevant be around. I truly believe he wants to
try to play with Bryce. Maybe not with the Lakers,
maybe it's with Cleveland. The ceremonial year with Cleveland. I
think he wants Bryce in the NBA, which is very likely. Uh,
whether he's a you know, second round, sixtieth pick, whatever,
But I think it's likely.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And I think he's like, hey, if a championship happens,
by happen, stance not great. But this is what he's done.
And this is what the Lakers do. You put in
some sweat equity with us, You be there for us,
you want us a ring you are, we are indebted
to you. This is what they've done. You know, you
and I have talked about they keep the rambuses around. Uh,
they keep people. Kobe was different Kobe. I'm not arguing.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
They got with a shock. I mean like, like, let's
not act.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Like but they drafted this when you draft his son. No.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
But but but my point is.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
He's not. Kobe was a Laker, you know what I
mean from they want to put it twenty years. So
they did that. They didn't make the playoffs his last
five years whatever. They game all the money. It was
bad business, it really was. But they felt like Kobe
was and that's.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
What they do.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
They keep their head coaches or Byron Scott like, they
bring people in the Laker world. Magic is in it
just out. Magic is in, magic is out. This is
kind of what the Lakers do but this makes no.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Sense for Lebron.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I'm that serious, like to have two years where you,
especially if you don't do anything with Luca, you think
that looks good on his resume that you had Luca
five times First Team All NBA and you're not.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
There's some couple of years with AD that's like, all right,
y'all should have but they couldn't even go to the finals.
Maybe don't win it, but you go or at least
not or at least get in the playoffs without the
playing like and he had some of those years with
AD two where you would be like, all right, I'm
not saying y'all had to beat everybody losing the first
round or only get to the second round.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So I just think Lebron is trying at this point
dictate everything. I'm gonna get all the money. I'm gonna
put the pressure on y'all money. I'm already gonna put
the already got my out. My out is we ain't
have enough. Then I go to play with Cleveland for
a ceremony a year he ain't going or you know
wherever the Knicks for finally one year whatever it is,
(07:07):
and then and then he rides off to the sunset.
So I think he has it set up where he
can only win from it. We win a ring, great,
we lose, we ain't have enough. I don't know that's
how he's trying to play it, position it well.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
But that that don't make any sense to me because
then your agent comes out talking about trying to win
like like they are.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
We're gonna monitor.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
What they couldn't even does Lebron right?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Does Lebron really? Dude? I'm not.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I'm the first one. I don't believe anybody should give
money back. But in his situation where what he's doing,
the reason he's still playing, there's nothing to play for.
He's the all time leading scorer, Like, there's nothing to
play for.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
If he claims rings don't.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Matter, right, and he's done is his career and he's
great and the people think he's good, what what is
left to be honest? Okay, you play with your son,
he's trying to play with both of them, rupp, Well,
that's gonna happen. It the ain't gonna be here.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
No, No, I agree. I'm not saying that because maybe ownership.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Is going to be in with that. I don't. I
don't believe that I don't think the Lakers are bigger
than that. You did it, you know, and I just
can't see them if Lebron and Luca and they're not winning,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
And the gist Mark Waters and his new ownership ain't
doing that. But he absolutely trying to play a Brice. Absolutely,
he's gonna play a Brice and called a career absolutely.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. It's simple. If
Lebron is serious about winning a championship, why didn't he
take a Bay Cup. We'll continue that conversation next with you.
Are you with Kelvin, He's just he wants the money
and he doesn't feel like he wants to win or
I'm just thinking it's just selfish. He should be trying
(08:49):
at all costs to give himself a chance to win
if you're going to play.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
And that makes what end? I'm with you, But Rob,
he is saying, I'm Lebron. I don't take haircuts. I'm
worth it. Look what I've done for you, look it
up down the league. I'm getting my fifty two meal.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
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Speaker 4 (09:46):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
The Pittsburgh Steelers made another move. This has been the
off season of activity for Pittsburgh, which is rare for them.
Earlier on Monday, before NBA Free agency kicked off, all
the fireworking out of the NFL because the Pittsburgh Steelers
executed a trade with the Miami Dolphins that saw them
send All Pro safety Minka Fitzpatrick and a future draft
(10:09):
pick to the Miami Dolphins for All Pro corner Jalen
Ramsey and do everything tight end John new Smith. The
move reunites John new Smith with their offensive coordinator ars
Arthur Smith, and more importantly, it helps bolster at defense,
which was already the highest paid in football, but now
they add the all pro Jalen Ramsey. Appears that Pittsburgh
(10:31):
is going all in around Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
You want to go first, you go ahead. I'm all
in for this. Pittsburgh hasn't won a playoff game since
twenty sixteen. We're going on ten years.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Okay, just forget about getting to they haven't won a
playoff game, So proud organization.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
The heat is on.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
I think for the fan base, for Mike Tomlin, front
office ownership people are like, okay, and I'm cool with
this because the only reason you would go get an
Aaron Rodgers is you have to be all in and
you're not rebuilding one foot in, one foot out. That
makes no sense. So you put something together and you
hope that you can have a team that could possibly
(11:15):
win a p I'm not saying they're gonna win the
championship or whatever. But I do like, if I'm a
Steelers fan, I'm tired of the idea of finishing over
five hundred. That didn't mean anything to me. I never
that whole streak with Mike Tom That doesn't do anything
for me. Early in his career when he won the
Super Bowl, the respiration like that was good. This and
(11:36):
then when they went to the Super Bowl against Aaron
Rodgers and the Packers and they lost, you know what
I mean, like, Okay, they won one, they went to
another one, like those were the Pittsburgh days. You don't
have to win all the time. No one's gonna win
all the time. But now you're talking about twenty sixteen.
I mean, my god, how long ago. That's when I
moved to LA I mean, I've been here forever now,
(11:57):
said his gray hair. I didn't have any of this
in my go team when I showed up here ten
almost ten years ago. So that's a long time. And
it just makes sense to me to be all in
because after this, if you want to replace the coach,
rebuild you know what I mean, tear it down or whatever,
(12:19):
or you think, hey, we made a run. All people
care about is all you in the mix, and can
I get to the dance and have a chance to win, Like,
anything can happen. Guys could be injured, you get somebody
could throw a bad pick. Like, there's so many things
that can happen to you that you could take a
(12:39):
look at the team that's supposed to beat you, the
Detroit Lions or the number one seed. They're nine and
a half point favors, They're at home and guess what
their quarterback what's to bend throose three interceptions in a
fumble right, and all of a sudden, the Commanders are
on their way and not the Lions. Like, that's what
can happen. So with this, if Pittsburgh gets gonna go
(13:02):
out of their way to bring in Aaron Rodgers, they
need to do these steps, put the best people around,
make some moves. You can't go with what you had
last year, you know what I mean, and just say, well,
the only difference is we're just gonna change the quarterback.
They've made moves and I'm for once, I'm.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Cool with it. I'm actually not mad at making moves.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I just don't like who they made the moves for
as much as uh as maybe you do or some
other people, I feel like it's a reshuffling of the deck.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I feel like it's you know you if you got it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Rob g always has a nice haircut he gives himself,
and he got the part on his left side. It
would be like getting the same haircut, but they're putting
a part on the right side and be like, yo,
I did something different.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
To me, it's the.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Same car, different paint, same girlfriend, just got a different name.
She looked the same act the same, just got a
different name. And that's my thing, Rob I actually and
with the all in to me, some examples would be
when the Bucks were all in, when they got Tom Brady,
they brought back drunk, they got they got Ab and
that team to me, was already Taylor made Tom and
(14:04):
a couple of other pieces was ready to do something,
especially in a bad division as they were in back then.
The Rams when they were like, man, we just need
a Von Miller, we need an Odell Beckham junior, we
need a Jalen Ramsey, as the Steelers just got a
younger Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So to me those things made difference.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Is when you had the quarterback who was still willing
and Dylan and you say, a couple of piece here,
one piece there, we should be good to go. I
don't think Aaron Rodgers, And again I don't think he's
gonna be bad. Let me be very clear, but I
don't think he gets you over the hump. And I
was looking at Crunch. I disagree with you when you
talk about the hump. They won ten games with two quarterbacks.
They weren't happy with like that, like that. So I'm
(14:43):
glad you and I get what you're saying. But my
thing rob to that is Aaron Rodgers is another year older, right,
and that's just anybody we just start up here to
talk about the lebron last hour. He's another year older,
with a new offense, a new system, and that team
where he's already saying, yeah, this might be my last.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I guess this will probably be my last.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
To me, what it will take for them to win,
you need to have had something a massive shift. And
if you're looking to win a playoff game but they can't,
that is embarrassing, right, No, it's.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Not because you can't win a super Bowl when you
haven't won a playoff game, but you got to first
win a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
But what I'm saying, I'd rather just win a playoff
game with my new guy, who is we're building towards something,
meaning okay, just winning the wild card game with Aaron
Rodgers and then you lose in the next round and
he's gone next year. It was like, what was the point?
But okay, we won one wild card game. To me,
I would rather build. I'd rather have my Jaden Daniels,
(15:42):
you know, my young guy Michael Pennick, junior bow Nicks,
and we got there.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Now we won.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Okay, now we're trying to keep moving. Maybe you don't,
but maybe with that new guy, just like Pennix. They
the Falcons had a chance to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
They put them in and they actually didn't make the
playoffs because they put a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Because they're trying to build it.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
If the Falcons man, you're excited about because you're excited
about what's the come. They saw Kirk Cousin throw more
interceptions than anything. We're still about trying to get into
the play I'm saying it building towards something. I think
as a as a fan.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Have that quarterback. They don't have that guy in place,
and they didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
They were talking about this, and that's because they didn't
want to run. No, they didn't believe. No, they didn't
believe that bros got no hear me out.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
They didn't believe that those quarterbacks today they think there's
a better quarterback UH class next year.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But if they're trying to win the playoff game, they
ain't gonna get him. Well, but you know that's what
I'm saying. You would have to be building. You can
either suck. You look, you either suck, be building towards
something where you this suck like you think they ought
and they could get their quarterback and they're going, don't suck.
That's the problem set like you got eight to nine.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
I want to to be I think right here and
I want to do this today. I think this will
be your worst football take of all seasons. I've already
put it out there. You got them for eight wins.
I want to put a bet on that that you
gotta wait see what TJ. Why I got that's a
massive part of it. That's the best.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
But you're telling me now that they're eight guys.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm gonna tell you why because if it's the only
move and I was gonna get to this sir. The
only reason I bring that up is because if TJ.
Whe was telling Robb g this, he's the one to
me that Obviously he's great. He's great, we know that.
But if they get a haul for him right now,
you all of a sudden, you get another receiver, you
get a back, like if they get a haul for TJ. Watt,
then we're having a different conversation. So I have to
(17:32):
say that's a massive part because now you might be
bringing in some very good pieces similar to what I mentioned.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But I said the team is not good even where
they are now.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I'm saying, if you bring in how many people, yeah,
it's not good. So I'm saying if you get a
top receiver, say you get a number one or a.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Time said Aaron Rodgers, is not right.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Because I'm saying, rob you need everything. When you're not
that great anymore, you need everything around you. If this
were Aaron rod six years ago, he good to go
because he's.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
That six years ago. Patrick Mahomes won fifteen games with
the same.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Stats he's not.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Patrick Mahomes won fifteen game with the six a great defense,
were lucky, and a lot of things. The three games
a lot of but then they had a great, great defense,
and then he went after and he made the I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
You and then and then they were able to get
to the super Bowl somehow, even though they weren't really good.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Here's that they were really good. They just they definitely,
I'll give you a handful of games he was a
miskick or their kick hit the thing went in. But
the other part was that they officials, they knew how
to win. And that's the difference of where Aaron Rodgers at.
It's not that he's gonna have horrible games every game.
It's that when it comes to making the play, if
(18:46):
it's tied game and it's third and eight, he might
throw for six. Then they got a punt and where
the difference is now At this point, Patrick Mahomes can
run for that third eight and they end up winning
the game by field goal. Wasn't a great game, he
didn't play his best. He made three to four plays
a game that won the game. I don't believe Aaron
Rodgers can do that for the bulk of a season.
That's the difference right there. And if you look at
their numbers total offense, they were twenty second passing offense,
(19:09):
they were twenty seventh rushing.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
They were eleventh that got rid of. Now you hear
hold on.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
So this what I'm going with this, rob They did
all that with Russell Wilson, who was essentially was slightly
Russell Wilson will that they had two quarterbacks last year.
You got know, I'm saying they were slightly better. Russell
Wilson was slightly better than Aaron Rodgers. Just I'm talking
here on both tarch Jans and so to me, if
(19:34):
I got the centilly same guy and one is five
six years younger, and if that's kind of how we're
running it back, why not running back with that guy
instead of the guy who's another year older and who's
still coming off that Achilles injury from a year ago,
year and a half ago. Whatever it HAPs over, I
mean to me, I'm just I don't get that part
of it. And they're all in and I just see
a bunch of swaps. Okay, Mika Fitzpatrick, Jaylen Ramsey, maybe
(19:57):
a slight hair in Jalen at this point, Jalen ain't
Jalen when he went to the Rams. At this point,
you get George George Pickens is really good, but little
hot head, a little crazy. I'll give you that. So
you go and leave him and get DJ me DK Metcalf.
It's not as if you had pickings on the outside
and DK Metcalf.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Then I'm like, yeah, but they thought that.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
They got pickings because of some issue.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Right, But I'm saying you didn't. So now I only
got a guy. Though.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You get what I'm saying. It's not like you have
a DJ Metcalp. You said he's just a guy. No,
I'm saying, I'm saying a singular guy mean I have one,
just like you're not adding everything you're doing.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think the idea you're talking about eight games, I
think your way off. I think whether they make whether TJ.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
The Ravens, that's I'll split you with the With the Browns,
splitch it with them, they might beat win both games.
With the MIC I ain't for I splitch it for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
With the Bengals.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
They ain't mean the Bengals, they mean the Mangles both
and so to me, they just did a bunch of
swapping out George.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
They won more.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
They four and one with a quarterback who can't throw
last year had to start the season. They all went
down here after that, No, it didn't. They won five
in a row.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
They went after that, Ruck five and after that Ruck
said they went down.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
They went after that. They knew sixth straight.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
They knew what they were doing, and that the idea
that the quarterback that they had wasn't a guy that
they wanted. That's why they didn't keep them.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I don't agree with you. I'm agreeing with you. I
don't agree. I agree that that's what they chose because
clearly that's what they did. I don't agree they.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Watched them in practice and all the other reasons. He's
way younger, he's got an upside, All folly and all listeners.
How long you've been covering this league? Since nineteen eighty
six NFL. I thought the NFL was eighty six, no
Baseball and NFL eighty seven, So since nineteen eighty seven,
you're telling me teams ain't made a mistake.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Sure they have, but that's all I'm saying. I agree
they no, we want to win the quarterback like that.
It was drafted high. Who's been on his four team
in three and four years. Everybody's wrong, everybody. I just
feel like I want tobody.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
You tell me about a quarterback has been traded that
much or not wanted on his fourth Wads Bears, Steelers
and that and the Jets. And that's all in how
many years? That's in four years? Are you talking about
the trade the last three years he's been on three team?
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And I just but to me, they're just doing the same.
It's just a it's the same haircut part on the
other side, it's the same car, different paint.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
To me, they just swapped out. Guys.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
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Speaker 4 (22:38):
All right, Rob, g the box and Knowing over the weekend,
Let's get to that real quick.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You're talking about Yontay Wilder. No, you're not talking about that.
You're talking about Jake Paul. Ask me how much I've
watched Jake Paul? How much is you watch? Welling a
couple of highlights. But you think I'm gonna watch his
fight the Tyson one? Remember I told you that. No,
I've watched you call it, but I remember we watched here.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Rob caught the illegal stream exactly.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
I caught the legal stream, but you know I'm not
giving Jake Paul two Nichols, all right, Well, a lot
of people gave Jake Paul two Nichols over the weekend
because he beat former professional boxer Julio Sayser Chavis Junior
on Saturday, easy decision.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
As a result, guys, get this, He has officially moved
is at the top fifteen of the WBA cruiserweight division,
which means he is eligible for a title shot.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yes, Jake Paul, who has fought basketball players, UFC fighters
and retired boxers, is now eligible for a world title fight.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Was see if he gets it. But after the.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Fight, a current champion WBC superwaterweight champ, Virgil Ortizi Virgil
thank you, put out a tweet that just went in
on Jake Paul. Here's what it reads in part, Jake
Paul is scamming the entire world with his circus fights,
selling his real fights, but the entire world continues to
eat it all up and then have the nerve to
(23:58):
be disappointed because the circuits fight they pay the watch
aren't real fights. He is single handedly destroying the sport
and everyone else is enabling it.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I'm with him, I'm serious, like, like this is you
know you talk about it, well, there's nothing to do.
Just what's the big deal? Just get it, watch it,
bring something. But you you're enabling him to continue to
do this and not deliver the product.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
People watch train wrecks, people gawk on the highway, right,
they might see somebody's leg off or something, you know.
Like I'm just saying, like so, just because a lot
of people are paying attention to what it doesn't mean
that it's good. And that's the problem I have, Like,
when you pay money, you you can make this thing
even worse. And what as a guy who covered boxing
(24:47):
and whatnot, we're boxing is headed And now for them
to even consider him getting a fight, you know, a
title fight, Yeah, because they see the money that's attached
to him, do you know what I mean? And they
want some of it, whether he's earned it or not
or had legitimate fights to get to this point. I
just it is a mockery. It's a shame, and I
(25:09):
just won't have any part of it. I think boxing
has been destroyed and Jake Paul is a bad thing
for boxing.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
That's me. Here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Though, Rob, I blame boxing boxing when you mentioned it
the heyday. I mean, obviously boxing has been a big
American stable for fights, you know, but back in the seventies,
the eighties, the nineties, and even early two thousand and man,
you had that, dude, there's no way you missed a
fill in the blank fight. I don't care if Felix
(25:36):
Trinidad to to to Oscar de la Hoya to Roy
Jones Jr. To Tyson to Evander you boxing was real deal.
Where what we do we at the fight. We're at
the fight party. We're going to a sports bar. My
buddies got like you made sure this Saturday night you
could bring a date. If Rob g said, hey man,
(25:57):
everybody come to the crib, big boxing fight. Come on,
we're gonna get some drinks and food, have a good time.
You could bring your lady like a new date. Hayes,
big fire, My gosh, let's go. I sted a fight
girl dressing up for the fight. It was real deal.
Everybody was excited about fights, and I blamed boxing for
starting to get too money hungry, just starting the cherry
pick fights. Who wouldn't fight a lot of this? People
(26:19):
say with Floyd Mayweather, I'm only gonna fight him. Well,
I'm not gonna fight that. You used to have the
best of the best of the best, who said to themselves, Rob,
I'm not the best if I don't fight him.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
But but but I'm with you on the boxing and
that tip in Floyd and Floyd stopped me from watching boxing. Okay,
we used to have the fights at the barber, but
I used to stop because they weren't entertaining.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
And it was always the fight that.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
We wanted were going up, and the fight that we
wanted we didn't get right right, We didn't get the
fight when we should have gotten it.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And my point now with Jake Paul.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
And him just fighting these has been never was is
and all these Tyson and whatnot, it is a mockery.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
It is.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
And that's why didn't want Mike Tyson, Remember I told
you don't. I didn't want him to be a part
of that because he's a real fighter.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
One of the best of the best.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
What they're doing and this check and this is the
problem Rob, with where we are now. And I think
there's a large group of young people and I was
telling Rob g this who have grown up on social media,
who actually don't know what classic, iconic or great is.
And what I mean is they don't know about great
fights when fights were a thing. They don't know about
(27:31):
great movies because now all these movies are Netflix movies
and Amazon, where they're not great. They just get a
big name to make a pay. Hey, Kevin Hard, Adam Sandler,
here's one hundred million dollars for five movies. And they're
cranking abut movie movie movie movies just to crank out
and get past the deal where the movies aren't great.
But the kids are just streaming and they don't know
what iconic with great, with classic is anymore. So now
(27:53):
they'll tolerate anything, and they'll tolerate the current of the
moments we are and that's where we are. So boxing,
they don't know great boxing Robin four. So they just
know Jake Paul is popular. He looks serious in the ring,
he looks and watches his new documentary of him getting
in shape to fight, and to them, that is a fight.
There are eighteen year olds right now who genuinely look
(28:14):
at Jake Paul as an actual real fighter like that,
then in their mind, a boxer is Jake Paul because
that's all they known. He's mastered social media, he's master clicks,
he's master cloud, and he's master views. But but mony
thing is like, the performances aren't great. It ain't like,
you know, it's a great fight though, I don't know
any I'm saying, not me. I'm saying I'm sixteen. I'm
(28:35):
sure this is the bro dude there right, This is
what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
They watch it, but they watched the Mike Tyson thing
and thought, what what what? What they come away with
that after watching that.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Mike was Mike Tyson wasn't that great? Okay, now they
can go, oh, y'all been telling me Mike Tyson was
that guy while my life, you know, he ain't that great, see,
I mean he was. The fight was booty and he
has showed his booty. That's what they're gonna take. It
was double boody. It was double cheeked up the fight.
How'd you think of the fight? Kids on Mike Tyson
double cheeks his career and the fight and we got
(29:05):
to sit there like no, I'll tell you. In nineteen
eighty eighty was cold twenty years old. He was the
world chip. It was the world Tevin and they don't
want to hear that. And now Jake Paul is a
real fighter in the mind, that's what the worst part
about this is.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
And boxing should be a shape boxon.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
The idea that they're gonna give him a chance at
a title fighting.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Because why wasn't They Now rob everything and there's no
such thing as standard, there's no thing such thing as integrity,
there's no such thing as standing on business. It's views,
it's clicks, it's cloud, it's streaming, it's it's all washed
up now there's no Have.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
You listened to radio lately?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
And I don't mean classic eighties, I'm talking about new
modern radio, Dude. Who they're listening to now is an embarrassment?
Is too When I, you and I we turn on
the radio, let's just say it was a traditional just
kind of your traditional hip hop and R and B.
You turned on Luther Whitney, Brandy Monica, Mary J. Blige, Tupac,
(29:57):
Biggie jay Z, outcast. That was a normal, normal day
when talent actually mattered. Now it's who's the best at
getting views, not necessarily talented. I'm dropping bars and I'm
done
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