January 1, 2021 • 29 mins
It's The Best of The Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Aaron Torres filling in for Chris Broussard. Rob and Aaron react live as Alabama beats down Notre Dame in the Rose Bowl. They debate who has more to prove in week 17 between Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray and Tua Tagovailoa and they applaud Becky Hammon for filling in for Popovich.
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You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brussa and Rod Harker. Don't get me wrong, we
love like dynasties and great teams or whatever. Like you know,
some teams can have a run and you look at
them and you're impressed by it or whatever. But but
where we are now exactly this is my issue is
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for a team not to even be competitive in a
playoff game. Yes, right, that's the problem. It's not that
Alabama is winning again or Clemton's gonna win again or
whatever it is. It's that there's no competition. That's the
whole nature of sports. Right, where's the upset? Why can't
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Notre Dame come in nineteen twenty point underdogs and play
the game of their lives? Right? It has happened before,
but we don't have that anymore. And I don't know
how if you're even if you're a big college football fan,
how does it feel good? Aaron? Why would you want
to watch this? I mean, at the Alabama scoring his
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first three possessions? All right, I'm ready to click around.
Is there a Honeymooner's Marathon or Golden Girls Up Marathon
on that I can watch? I mean, is that where
we are with a game's not even well, not even competitive?
From Jump Street Well, And it's really funny because you know, obviously,
as part of just having been around college football for years,
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I go on all these local shows in Tuscaloosa and
College Station, which is where Texas A and M is, Knoxville,
Tennessee wherever. And it's just really funny because you go
on in Alabama and I'm not kidding Rob the in
in September, it's a conversation about, you know, how do
we match up with Clemson? How do we match up?
It's not about LSU or ten or Tennessee or Texas
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A and M or the SEC. It's who it's those
two or three teams at the end of the season.
And then you go out in Knoxville and it's just
misery because you can't figure out a way to get
to Alabama's level. And so to your point, I think
it's really hurt the sport. I don't know how we
get another two or three teams to Alabama and Clemson's level,
because I'm with you, it's hard to defend this sport
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when it's the same two teams every single year. Yeah,
and it doesn't mean that those schools aren't great, sure,
but that's just not It becomes the Harlem globetrot is
against the Washington Generals. That's what we're watching today. And
you might think it's too harsh to call Notre Dame
the Washington Generals, but when they played the big boys
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in the big moments, they don't they don't perform, they
don't play well. But and it was never like that.
I can remember college football where there were other schools
that were in the mix and and and it was
it wasn't this one sided for a couple of schools
and then yeah, you know you have your LSU or
oh you know, you always keep Ohio State in the mix.
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I think Ohio State's always in the mix, not only
because they're a good program. They want the Big ten involved.
Do you know what I mean like like they don't
want it to be totally where where you turn off
or alienate. Uh. The PAC twelves not involved, they don't
even They just pooh pooh the PAC twelve. Am I
right like that it doesn't matter, no, one hundred percent,
And I really think it. It's funny and I want
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your just opinion on this. But um, you know, as
a guy who lived in Michigan, I know you've been
critical of Jim Harball, as you should be, as we
all should be. Uh, but it's like, how can Michigan
not at any point in fifteen years put a team
on the field that can compete with with with Ohio State.
How can LSU had last year but mostly for the
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last fifteen to twenty years not compete with Alabama. I
think it's a bad thing. And you know what scary
rob is if you follow the recruiting rankings, it's only
going to stay this way because now we're six, seven
years whatever it is, into this playoff and kids say,
I want not only is Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State gonna
get me to the NFL. They're gonna get me in
those big games that matter. And now the recruiting gap
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is getting even bigger. And that's what the scary party
is going forward. Now, you're right, it's a it's a
bad cycle. Nobody wants to go to a Michigan or
some other school and try to make their own markets.
Like where's the factory I want to be on? Then
the big games? I can get a ring, right, I'll
go there. Everybody, people from all over going to to
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h Alabama or Clemson and just saying, oh, yeah, this
is where we'll go. And they're three deep at every
position and you know what I mean, Like, well I
wasna I'll give you a good example of that. That
backup quarterback that came in for Clemson the first game
against Notre Dame DJ. I believe it's Uey Lagan La La,
I'm not Kazunt. Yeah, well, guess where he's from, Rob,
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He's from southern California. This is what I'm saying, Yes,
this is what I'm I mean. Kids from southern California
are going to the South to play football and play
for these schools and they don't want to you know,
turn USC around or UCLA or anything like that. It's amazing.
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And the same thing Michigan, for all of its failures
as a perennial. And I get it, they won more
game than any other college football program and all that
other nonsense, but they've got basically one national championship since
the Louisiana purchase. I mean, that's how long it's been.
And Jim Harball came here, came to Michigan to fix it,
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and he can't even beat Ohio State. He's been burned
by Michigan State, and uh, you know, his his rivals,
they have him gone to the to the College Football Playoffs.
I mean, it's embarrassing. Yet that school has so many
guys who have gone to the NFL. Right, one hundred Michigan, Yeah, no,
one hundred percent. And I don't know how it gets
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fixed because, like I said, if you follow the recruiting rankings,
it's Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State at the top every single season.
And so it's unfortunate. But I'm with you, and I'll
ask you. You know, I know you and Chris primarily
you don't talk a ton of college football on this show.
And also you gotta get my background. Growing up in
New York City, there's no college football. Okay, there's no
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college football, which is incredible when you think about it.
So I grew up with no college football. I watched
the big games as a kid, you know what I mean,
I did, but we didn't have I mean, west Point
was probably west Point Syracuse is a million miles away
from New York City, so Syracuse wasn't your college football team.
I used to cover West Point when I was a
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sportswriter at the Daily News, YEP, when I first started out.
So I used to drive up there and cover games
game on Saturdays during college football season. But but no,
for the most part, you know what I mean, I
grew up without college football. Well, and that's what I
was going to ask, is I know there's so much
NFL to cover over the course of a week. But
you're a sports fan. I've watched games with you, I've
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hung out with you. I know that you just you
love sports. That's why we all do this. But I
was going to ask you, as somebody who didn't grow
up around college football, I'm guessing that the dominance of
one to two to three teams doesn't what's the right word.
It doesn't encourage you to carve out time on a
Saturday to make time for this sport. When at the
end of the season, we know who the same two
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or three teams are going to be. That's where I'm
at and I used to go on some saturdays, you
know me Aaron love the Chicken Wing. I can go
to sports bar, hang out, you know, watch a good game,
see something. But it has become very predictable. I'm curious
to see from our listeners how many people are you
still that engaged. And we've seen the ratings. I know
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it's down for just about everybody, but we've also seen
the attendance go down in college football. I think it
was a two years ago it had dropped like the
lowest point in twenty four years or something. You know,
across the board where normally college football people are into
it because they're invested the schools in their community or
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they went there, you know what I mean. It's different
from proh where people are more invested in college because
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It is week seventeen and one thing that you and
I were texting about a lot this week, Rob, was
you know, just just so so many different kind of
crazy playoffs scenarios. Who's in, who's out? Who gets this
seed with the winner of loss. But as you referenced
throughout the first hour of this show, there are a
couple quarterbacks here coming into this weekend that we're still
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a little bit unsure about as far as are they
that guy? Can they lead a franchise not just to
the playoffs but eventually to deep playoff runs, to super Bowls, whatever.
And when you take a quarterback that high, that's what
you want. And so there are three specifically that come
to mind for me, and again you and I have
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talked about it a little bit. But as we head
into week seventeen, Baker Mayfield has the Cleveland Browns in
position to make the playoffs with a win. He's of
course a former number one overall pick, as is Kyler
Murray Win and they are in the playoffs to a
tongue of viola with the Miami Dolphins, who the Dolphins
won last week against the Raiders, but of course he
got pulled for Ryan Fitzpatrick, who is not available this weekend.
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So Rob, I kind of have my thoughts, but I
want to toss it to you first of the three, Baker, Mayfield,
Kyler Murray to a tongue of viola, who do you
believe has the most pressure going into this weekend? I
really think it's tour. And I know people say, well,
Baker has to win whatever. They're at home, No Ben Roethlisberger.
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You know the Steelers aren't playing all their guys. I
think it's tour from this standpoint, Aaron, they already were
pulling the chain on him down there right most of
the other young quarterbacks. They throw him in there and
just say, man, learn on the fly. You gotta learn
by playing. We're tour. They were ready to give away
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snaps and important snaps and big moments in games to Fitzpatrick.
And we know who he is. He's a journeyman quarterback
who's been on ninety five teams in his career and
never been to the playoffs. That's that's shocking to me.
That tells me you don't believe to a long term.
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You're trying to make the playoffs now instead of saying
we're trying to build something here with tour. Because he's
our guy so that we can make a real run
and try to win the super Bowl in Miami, it's
been forever, but that's not where they are. They don't
trust him enough, and that's why Fitzpatrick was getting you know, snaps.
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I don't want to give that guy snaps. And Okay,
the only reason he's not playing he's got COVID, so
he's out. So now this is about Toa. And we
know Miami has a top pick coming so they can
get draft a quarterback. So if two of flames out,
plays poorly, whatever, they don't make the playoffs, you could
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take a look and you're not. This is not the
old days are and where you're all used to be
on the hook for one hundred million dollars guarantee to
these quarterbacks. You're not anymore. So now what you can
do is you can move on. It ain't Dwayne Aske
Dwayne Haskins, right, You can easily move on because you're
not in for a big financial hit. And the same
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thing with Toa. If they look at him and go,
you know, he couldn't even stay keep us from using
its Patrick. He flamed out in Week seventeen in the
biggest Game of the Year, didn't play well, and now
we got a chance to draft Joe Blow. We're gonna
draft him and we'll move away from tak. I think
his time in Miami, his career, a lot of this
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hinges on how well he plays. So real quick, I'm
gonna get to my answer a second. Where do you
stand on just the juggling of quarterbacks? Because to me
it's ironic. I was on during that Raiders game last
Saturday night, and you know, my partner and Irony Spanier
went back and forth on it. But I just feel like,
if you believe in Tuah, you gotta trust him. You
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gotta put the ball in his hands and say let's
do this. If you don't, you should have never put
him in the first place. Where do you just stand
on the juggling? And again, for people who don't know,
Ryan Fitzpatrick not available this weekend, which is why the
pressure is on Tah. But over the last six, seven,
eight weeks whatever it's been since TUA started, where do
you stand on how Brian Flores and that staff, not
just the head coach, but the offensive coaching staff as well,
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has handled the quarterbacks there. Yeah, I don't like it.
You know, they always say if you have two girlfriends
is because both of them have a deficiency or that
neither one is any good, so you gotta have two
to make up for something stuff. You know, you don't
need two quarterbacks. You need one guy who who you
believe in, who's gonna lead you. You know. So I'm
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never I've never seen a juggling quarterback at win, especially
on the pro level, So I'm not into that. I
just think, let a guy play, give him an opportunity.
If you don't believe you can do it, then you
move on to the next guy. Yeah, so I agree
with you one hundred percent. I have not liked how
that they have handled this situation with Tah. I will
say this, I actually sort of think it is Tah
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because you again the question being who has the most
pressure of the young former top five picks going into
this weekend, Baker Mayfield to Ah or Kyler Murray. But
I'll make the argument that maybe it really is Baker
Mayfield because listen, I am one of those people that
I did give Baker Mayfield a pass four last week
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against the Jets. I know he had three turnovers he
was responsible for, but I also believe that in his defense,
he was down his top four wide receivers. And I
don't care who you are, you're not gonna look good
if you do not have your top four wide receivers. Well,
but he mishandled the ball. What do you have? Three
fumbles in that game, Aaron? I could I understand what
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you're saying. You cannot turn the ball against the pathetic
Jets in a game like that. Three fumbles? Well, and
and that's what I was gonna get to, is I
sort of give him a pass? But one, there's that,
And then as you look to week seventeen, the Pittsburgh
Steelers aren't playing Ben Roethlisberger. And so if you're the
number one overall pick, which he was, and when you
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draft somebody number one overall, you think they're gonna take
your franchise to heights that clearly you haven't been in
a while because you have the number one overall pick.
Baker has done what he is supposed to do this season.
They're ten and five. Outside of that Jets game, they've
largely beaten the teams. There's a post too. If you
look at their schedule, it's kind of a group of
unimpressive wins, the Texans, the Jaguars, the Eagles. I agree
with you. Yeah, And so Baker, you're the number one pick.
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By the way, they've and I know our buddy Colin
Cowherd talks about this all the time, and he's right.
They've given you Kareem Hunt, They've given you Nick Chubb,
Jarvis Landry is back this week and Richard he gets
his back this weekend. If you're the number one pick, Baker,
and by the way, this is year three, it's not
eight games into your career like twa year three. If
you're the guy, Baker, you gotta get it done. I'm
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with you on that. And if they lose that game,
then you have to question and say Baker doesn't play well,
you will question it because they have ten wins, had
a chance to get into the playoffs for the first
time since two thousand and seven, right, and they don't
get it done, especially in a situation where you know
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Pittsburgh is saying take it. You're nine and a half
point favorites. Right to lose that nine and a half
point favorites without them starting their starting quarterback in a
game where where where all you need to do you
don't need any help. You win the game, you make
the playoffs. Now the Kyler Murray uh scenario obviously that
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they're in love with him, and I get all that,
but he's taking a step back this year. Would would
you agree with that? Aaron? I mean that the start
of the season, people were ranting and raving. People thought
he was gonna win the MVP. They looked at Patrick Mahomes,
they say, well, he wonted in his second year. Lamar
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Jackson wanted in his second year. Kyler Murray's in the
same situation that they got him Hopkins. Now he can
let loose. And after he beat Buffalo with that Hail Murray,
people were going crazy. Oh yeah, I mean it was
like it's coming out party. And ever since then, they've
corralled him. They've they've taken away his legs, they've made
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him stay in the pocket, get a lot of balls
batted down at the line of scrimmage. It's been a struggle.
Now the Rams don't have their starting quarterback, Cooper Cup's
not playing Henderson, the running backs not playing. I mean,
they gotta beat the Rams. And if they don't, how
would you look at that? Would it be Kyler Murray
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is only a second year. It's not the end of
the world, or you'd have to wonder what happened to
Kyler Murray. I'm willing to give him a little bit
more of the benefit of the doubt than either Baker
or Twa, because at his best he has been significantly
better than both of those guys. But to your point, Rob,
it's not as though we have seen his best for
most of this season. And I think the bigger concern
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for me would be that, really it's the back half
of this schedule which is concerning. You talk about the
Hail Murray play against the Buffalo Bills. Since then they're
two and four. They're only wins are over the Giants
and the Eagles, and I look at that the only
two teams they beat are bad teams. Yes, and you
just lost to the forty nine, who who had a
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third straight quarterback. I was gonna try to do the
Rob Parker says Jimmy Not only was Jimmy Garoppolo not there,
and then I was gonna do the whole CJ. Bethard
more like CJ this, But nothing came into my head.
So listen, I'm still trying to get to that level.
But I do agree with you one hundred percent in
that he hasn't looked the same, He hasn't been as effective.
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And you know you can't say, well, it's a new
head coach, it's a new system. Oh by the way,
we went to get you DeAndre Hopkins. So in a way,
it is a lot like Baker Mayfield, where the path
is there for you. Now the Rams have to win.
It's different than the situation with the Steelers, who the
Browns are playing. But you look at the La Rams
or without their starting quarterback, as you said, some other weapons.
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This is a big one for Kyler Murray too. It
is there's all three of these guys. It'll be interested
in age seven, seven ninety nine off Foxes. I'll telephone
number and I'm just curious, who do you think is
has more to proof because Baker needs to win, Kyler
needs to win, and Tua needs to play well in
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order for Miami to not use that pick right on
a quarterback, wouldn't that change it their drafting stance. If
he stinks up to joint compared to he balls out,
plays great, they make it to the playoffs. Do you
know what I mean? That would change your mind. Fox
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The NBA did have some history making a history making
moment on Wednesday night when Becky Hammond replaced Greg Popovitch.
He was ejected at the AT and T Center in
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San Antonio, and she became the first woman to act
as head coach in a regular season NBA game. And
Popovitch has nothing. You know, they really like her a lot.
He was voted. Aaron is saying, quote, she's earned it,
she has qualified, She's wonderful at what she does, and
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you know, it's just a matter of time now before
this happens. I know people have always questioned whether a
woman could ever make an NBA team, or play or
be on a squad or even a twelfth man or
whatever it is. And to me, it feels like pop
is seventy one how many more years. It feels like
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she's gonna replace him, that that this is gonna be
like his piece of history. He's groomed er, he's put
this in motion, and he believes in her and I
do believe that she will be the first female coach
at the NBA. What did you make of it? She's
forty three years old, she was a six time All
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Star in the w NBA, played sixteen years with the
New York Liberty and the San Antonio Silver Stars. To
the first woman to ever be hired full time on
a coaching step back in twenty fourteen, All of things
line up, you know what I mean? Now there are
eleven women on NBA coaching staff throughout the league, but
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she was the first. What did you think of her
coaching the team? Yeah? I think that to me, you know,
when I saw this, it was obviously an awesome story.
But the reason that you know one, I think you're right.
It feels as though Popovich, you know, it's kind of
his last little go around the organization. He's I think
he's trying to build it up one more time. But
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she has the credentials and she's I bided her time
is not the right way to put it, but she's
put in what is the word she's put in her
she's paid her dues, paid her due. Yes, she's been
with the organizations. It's twenty fourteen. As you said, that
seven years. At this point, it's probably gonna be another
two or three before Popovitch retires. He's gotten a million
other assistants head coaching gigs. Whether it's Brett Brown, who
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was of course with Philadelphia for so long, there's a
bunch of other ones throughout the NBA. And so to me,
he has a very fruitful coaching tree. It's not as
though he's not a guy that hasn't proven that he
can produce NBA head coaches off of his staff. And
she's put in the time. This isn't a gimmick. She's
been there day in and day out for seven years.
And if she's the next quote unquote woman up instead
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of the next man up, I have absolutely no problem
with it. I think it's great for basketball. And we
also just recently Aaron found out that the Red Sox
made history when they hired Bianca Smith. Smith becomes the
first black female coach and professional baseball. She is currently
on the coaching staff at Carol University in Wisconsin, but
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she's gonna be a minor league coach with the Red Sox.
And then we also saw earlier this year, right the
Marlins hired their GM first GM ing who was with
the Dodgers, with the Yankees, and now she's the GM
of the Marlins. So we're seeing all of this um
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change and I just women of ruled nations. I just
don't even think that this is that big of a deal.
Guys have coached women forever. And the greatest college women's
basketball coach, Gene gen Orima Oriama, I was gonna say
no, no no, no, no, no, Gene Oriamma. You know him
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very well at Yukon. Uh right, he had no problem
coaching women. I don't. I don't know why people would.
Do you think people are gonna have a problem with
this so they think it's forced. She doesn't know what
she's doing. She never played in the NBA. How can
you hire a woman as a baseball coach? Never? She
never played them major league on that level. She might
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have played softball. It's a different game, do you know.
I mean, I'm sure that's what people are thinking, that
thinking that just doing it to believe politically correct tokenism.
You know, Oh yeah, they just hired her because she's
a woman. And there's other guys in the NBA, guys
who played in the league. Who deserves a chance at coaching,
there's there'll be a lot of that pushback. Uh, do
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you think it'll be well received or not? Well, I
think for basketball feels to me a little bit different.
I'm not saying that I agree or disagree, but I think, listen,
there's the first of all, it's gonna be pushback with anything.
But I think the pushback in a place like the
NFL or Major League baseball, where as you said, you
know there's never been a female Major League Baseball player.
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That's yeah, that's where I could see pushback. Not saying
it's right, not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying that's
where I think there would be pushback. But the NBA
basketball is basketball. It's the same court, it's the same
height of the rim um. You know, ball is smaller.
I did play Nancy Lieberman in a charity basketball game
back in Detroit when she was coach of the Detroit Shock.
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Aaron I was at the gym. I was feeling good.
I'm making all these shots, knocking them down. We get
to the game one on one and we're playing with
the w NBA ball Oh did you? And I'm not
making an excuse. It doesn't feel the same Aaron, it
felt like a volleyball, you know what I mean, Like
it didn't feel right. So I did score the first
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two baskets of the game. And I want you to
know one of one of our radio partners, a guy
at the station I was working at in Detroit, w DFN,
the late Jamie Samuels, who just passed. But Jamie bet
me twenty dollars that I wouldn't score a basket. I
was like, dude, are you what? So I want you
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to know, Aaron, I scored a basket on the first,
you know, first possession of the game. Score basket, called
time out for the referee, went over to him and
I said, where's my twenty nine? Yeah, as the man
who's who's worked ten shifts this week, I'm not surprised
that you went over and demanded the paycheck. No, I
wanted it. Where's my twenty But my point is, when
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you talk about basketball, guys and girls playing is definitely
more real, right and comparable compared to the other sports.
And I'm not saying that a female if if she
works her way up from the minor leagues the major
leagues or in football from whatever ops coach to position
coach to coordinator that they don't deserve a chance. I
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just think that it will. It will feel different in
basketball because the sports, the men's and women's sports are
essentially the same outside of the ball. So do you
think do you feel the same way that that you know, Listen,
Bruce Arians, I think was the first person to hire
a female in whatever role it has happened a little
bit more sense. But I mean, I don't know when
we'll see an NFL head coach that's a female. Do
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you feel like that pushback will come, because it's gonna happen,
I would guess at some point. I think football, of
all the sports, would probably be the last. I just
do because of the nature of the game. I think,
like never putting on shoulder pads or what. And I'm
not saying some of the greatest coaches right as we know,
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never played in the NFL. Sure, right, So so that
can't be your argument, Well, she didn't play. I know
Bill Belichick played, but he played at a small level.
He was never a great football player, do you know
what I mean? So, but but putting on the pads
and playing who was the coach for the Kansas City
Chiefs who I just his name, just kipp U. I
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just lost his name, who didn't play football, who played
golf in college, but his dad was a football coach.
Somebody helped me with that. Yeah, he played. He was
the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. I don't
know why I can't remember Todd Haley. I never played,
never played football to play golf in college, so imagine
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he was able to get to that level. And like
I said, his dad was a was a coach, so
that that helped him in. But I don't think that
in football. I think woman would have a harder time.
I do believe Becky Hammond will be will replace Pop
and be the be the head coach too. Yeah, first
of all, I had no idea that Todd Hailey had
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not only never played in the NFL, that he played
golf in college. By the way, I found Todd Hailey's
Wikipedia page. He's he's a high school coach now. But anyway,
but am I right? I think in the Wikipedia right
you are? You are, and and I'm with you, and
I think and that's the thing too, And it's it's
the same with all these sports. I first of all,
and you know this better than anybody. Rob You've covered baseball,
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You've covered all the major sports, and sometimes, as a
matter of fact, the best players make the worst coaches,
yea and vice versa. Joe Torrey, I know, was a
pretty good, pretty good player, but I mean I think
he made an All Star team a couple of times.
But I mean he wasn't Johnny Bench or Carlton Fisk,
you know, but but he was. He knew the game,
he understood the game. I mean, you go across basketball, uh,
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Greg Popovic played uh I think at an air Force maybe,
but he didn't play in the NBA. I'm going you know,
Phil Jackson played as a role player, but he was
at a star. So I'm with you in that. You know,
it shouldn't be a prerequisite. I'm all for the most
qualified person getting the opportunity, regardless of male, female, obviously,
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any racial gender, you know whatever. I don't really care.
Give me the best person to do the job. And
so if down the road there is a female that's
good enough to be an NFL head coach, I honestly
have no problem with it. I really don't
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You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brussa and Rod Harker. Don't get me wrong, we
love like dynasties and great teams or whatever. Like you know,
some teams can have a run and you look at
them and you're impressed by it or whatever. But but
where we are now exactly this is my issue is
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for a team not to even be competitive in a
playoff game. Yes, right, that's the problem. It's not that
Alabama is winning again or Clemton's gonna win again or
whatever it is. It's that there's no competition. That's the
whole nature of sports. Right, where's the upset? Why can't
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Notre Dame come in nineteen twenty point underdogs and play
the game of their lives? Right? It has happened before,
but we don't have that anymore. And I don't know
how if you're even if you're a big college football fan,
how does it feel good? Aaron? Why would you want
to watch this? I mean, at the Alabama scoring his
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first three possessions? All right, I'm ready to click around.
Is there a Honeymooner's Marathon or Golden Girls Up Marathon
on that I can watch? I mean, is that where
we are with a game's not even well, not even competitive?
From Jump Street Well, And it's really funny because you know, obviously,
as part of just having been around college football for years,
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I go on all these local shows in Tuscaloosa and
College Station, which is where Texas A and M is, Knoxville,
Tennessee wherever. And it's just really funny because you go
on in Alabama and I'm not kidding Rob the in
in September, it's a conversation about, you know, how do
we match up with Clemson? How do we match up?
It's not about LSU or ten or Tennessee or Texas
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A and M or the SEC. It's who it's those
two or three teams at the end of the season.
And then you go out in Knoxville and it's just
misery because you can't figure out a way to get
to Alabama's level. And so to your point, I think
it's really hurt the sport. I don't know how we
get another two or three teams to Alabama and Clemson's level,
because I'm with you, it's hard to defend this sport
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when it's the same two teams every single year. Yeah,
and it doesn't mean that those schools aren't great, sure,
but that's just not It becomes the Harlem globetrot is
against the Washington Generals. That's what we're watching today. And
you might think it's too harsh to call Notre Dame
the Washington Generals, but when they played the big boys
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in the big moments, they don't they don't perform, they
don't play well. But and it was never like that.
I can remember college football where there were other schools
that were in the mix and and and it was
it wasn't this one sided for a couple of schools
and then yeah, you know you have your LSU or
oh you know, you always keep Ohio State in the mix.
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I think Ohio State's always in the mix, not only
because they're a good program. They want the Big ten involved.
Do you know what I mean like like they don't
want it to be totally where where you turn off
or alienate. Uh. The PAC twelves not involved, they don't
even They just pooh pooh the PAC twelve. Am I
right like that it doesn't matter, no, one hundred percent,
And I really think it. It's funny and I want
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your just opinion on this. But um, you know, as
a guy who lived in Michigan, I know you've been
critical of Jim Harball, as you should be, as we
all should be. Uh, but it's like, how can Michigan
not at any point in fifteen years put a team
on the field that can compete with with with Ohio State.
How can LSU had last year but mostly for the
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last fifteen to twenty years not compete with Alabama. I
think it's a bad thing. And you know what scary
rob is if you follow the recruiting rankings, it's only
going to stay this way because now we're six, seven
years whatever it is, into this playoff and kids say,
I want not only is Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State gonna
get me to the NFL. They're gonna get me in
those big games that matter. And now the recruiting gap
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is getting even bigger. And that's what the scary party
is going forward. Now, you're right, it's a it's a
bad cycle. Nobody wants to go to a Michigan or
some other school and try to make their own markets.
Like where's the factory I want to be on? Then
the big games? I can get a ring, right, I'll
go there. Everybody, people from all over going to to
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h Alabama or Clemson and just saying, oh, yeah, this
is where we'll go. And they're three deep at every
position and you know what I mean, Like, well I
wasna I'll give you a good example of that. That
backup quarterback that came in for Clemson the first game
against Notre Dame DJ. I believe it's Uey Lagan La La,
I'm not Kazunt. Yeah, well, guess where he's from, Rob,
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He's from southern California. This is what I'm saying, Yes,
this is what I'm I mean. Kids from southern California
are going to the South to play football and play
for these schools and they don't want to you know,
turn USC around or UCLA or anything like that. It's amazing.
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And the same thing Michigan, for all of its failures
as a perennial. And I get it, they won more
game than any other college football program and all that
other nonsense, but they've got basically one national championship since
the Louisiana purchase. I mean, that's how long it's been.
And Jim Harball came here, came to Michigan to fix it,
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and he can't even beat Ohio State. He's been burned
by Michigan State, and uh, you know, his his rivals,
they have him gone to the to the College Football Playoffs.
I mean, it's embarrassing. Yet that school has so many
guys who have gone to the NFL. Right, one hundred Michigan, Yeah, no,
one hundred percent. And I don't know how it gets
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fixed because, like I said, if you follow the recruiting rankings,
it's Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State at the top every single season.
And so it's unfortunate. But I'm with you, and I'll
ask you. You know, I know you and Chris primarily
you don't talk a ton of college football on this show.
And also you gotta get my background. Growing up in
New York City, there's no college football. Okay, there's no
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college football, which is incredible when you think about it.
So I grew up with no college football. I watched
the big games as a kid, you know what I mean,
I did, but we didn't have I mean, west Point
was probably west Point Syracuse is a million miles away
from New York City, so Syracuse wasn't your college football team.
I used to cover West Point when I was a
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sportswriter at the Daily News, YEP, when I first started out.
So I used to drive up there and cover games
game on Saturdays during college football season. But but no,
for the most part, you know what I mean, I
grew up without college football. Well, and that's what I
was going to ask, is I know there's so much
NFL to cover over the course of a week. But
you're a sports fan. I've watched games with you, I've
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hung out with you. I know that you just you
love sports. That's why we all do this. But I
was going to ask you, as somebody who didn't grow
up around college football, I'm guessing that the dominance of
one to two to three teams doesn't what's the right word.
It doesn't encourage you to carve out time on a
Saturday to make time for this sport. When at the
end of the season, we know who the same two
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or three teams are going to be. That's where I'm
at and I used to go on some saturdays, you
know me Aaron love the Chicken Wing. I can go
to sports bar, hang out, you know, watch a good game,
see something. But it has become very predictable. I'm curious
to see from our listeners how many people are you
still that engaged. And we've seen the ratings. I know
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it's down for just about everybody, but we've also seen
the attendance go down in college football. I think it
was a two years ago it had dropped like the
lowest point in twenty four years or something. You know,
across the board where normally college football people are into
it because they're invested the schools in their community or
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they went there, you know what I mean. It's different
from proh where people are more invested in college because
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It is week seventeen and one thing that you and
I were texting about a lot this week, Rob, was
you know, just just so so many different kind of
crazy playoffs scenarios. Who's in, who's out? Who gets this
seed with the winner of loss. But as you referenced
throughout the first hour of this show, there are a
couple quarterbacks here coming into this weekend that we're still
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a little bit unsure about as far as are they
that guy? Can they lead a franchise not just to
the playoffs but eventually to deep playoff runs, to super Bowls, whatever.
And when you take a quarterback that high, that's what
you want. And so there are three specifically that come
to mind for me, and again you and I have
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talked about it a little bit. But as we head
into week seventeen, Baker Mayfield has the Cleveland Browns in
position to make the playoffs with a win. He's of
course a former number one overall pick, as is Kyler
Murray Win and they are in the playoffs to a
tongue of viola with the Miami Dolphins, who the Dolphins
won last week against the Raiders, but of course he
got pulled for Ryan Fitzpatrick, who is not available this weekend.
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So Rob, I kind of have my thoughts, but I
want to toss it to you first of the three, Baker, Mayfield,
Kyler Murray to a tongue of viola, who do you
believe has the most pressure going into this weekend? I
really think it's tour. And I know people say, well,
Baker has to win whatever. They're at home, No Ben Roethlisberger.
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You know the Steelers aren't playing all their guys. I
think it's tour from this standpoint, Aaron, they already were
pulling the chain on him down there right most of
the other young quarterbacks. They throw him in there and
just say, man, learn on the fly. You gotta learn
by playing. We're tour. They were ready to give away
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snaps and important snaps and big moments in games to Fitzpatrick.
And we know who he is. He's a journeyman quarterback
who's been on ninety five teams in his career and
never been to the playoffs. That's that's shocking to me.
That tells me you don't believe to a long term.
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You're trying to make the playoffs now instead of saying
we're trying to build something here with tour. Because he's
our guy so that we can make a real run
and try to win the super Bowl in Miami, it's
been forever, but that's not where they are. They don't
trust him enough, and that's why Fitzpatrick was getting you know, snaps.
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I don't want to give that guy snaps. And Okay,
the only reason he's not playing he's got COVID, so
he's out. So now this is about Toa. And we
know Miami has a top pick coming so they can
get draft a quarterback. So if two of flames out,
plays poorly, whatever, they don't make the playoffs, you could
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take a look and you're not. This is not the
old days are and where you're all used to be
on the hook for one hundred million dollars guarantee to
these quarterbacks. You're not anymore. So now what you can
do is you can move on. It ain't Dwayne Aske
Dwayne Haskins, right, You can easily move on because you're
not in for a big financial hit. And the same
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thing with Toa. If they look at him and go,
you know, he couldn't even stay keep us from using
its Patrick. He flamed out in Week seventeen in the
biggest Game of the Year, didn't play well, and now
we got a chance to draft Joe Blow. We're gonna
draft him and we'll move away from tak. I think
his time in Miami, his career, a lot of this
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hinges on how well he plays. So real quick, I'm
gonna get to my answer a second. Where do you
stand on just the juggling of quarterbacks? Because to me
it's ironic. I was on during that Raiders game last
Saturday night, and you know, my partner and Irony Spanier
went back and forth on it. But I just feel like,
if you believe in Tuah, you gotta trust him. You
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gotta put the ball in his hands and say let's
do this. If you don't, you should have never put
him in the first place. Where do you just stand
on the juggling? And again, for people who don't know,
Ryan Fitzpatrick not available this weekend, which is why the
pressure is on Tah. But over the last six, seven,
eight weeks whatever it's been since TUA started, where do
you stand on how Brian Flores and that staff, not
just the head coach, but the offensive coaching staff as well,
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has handled the quarterbacks there. Yeah, I don't like it.
You know, they always say if you have two girlfriends
is because both of them have a deficiency or that
neither one is any good, so you gotta have two
to make up for something stuff. You know, you don't
need two quarterbacks. You need one guy who who you
believe in, who's gonna lead you. You know. So I'm
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never I've never seen a juggling quarterback at win, especially
on the pro level, So I'm not into that. I
just think, let a guy play, give him an opportunity.
If you don't believe you can do it, then you
move on to the next guy. Yeah, so I agree
with you one hundred percent. I have not liked how
that they have handled this situation with Tah. I will
say this, I actually sort of think it is Tah
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because you again the question being who has the most
pressure of the young former top five picks going into
this weekend, Baker Mayfield to Ah or Kyler Murray. But
I'll make the argument that maybe it really is Baker
Mayfield because listen, I am one of those people that
I did give Baker Mayfield a pass four last week
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against the Jets. I know he had three turnovers he
was responsible for, but I also believe that in his defense,
he was down his top four wide receivers. And I
don't care who you are, you're not gonna look good
if you do not have your top four wide receivers. Well,
but he mishandled the ball. What do you have? Three
fumbles in that game, Aaron? I could I understand what
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you're saying. You cannot turn the ball against the pathetic
Jets in a game like that. Three fumbles? Well, and
and that's what I was gonna get to, is I
sort of give him a pass? But one, there's that,
And then as you look to week seventeen, the Pittsburgh
Steelers aren't playing Ben Roethlisberger. And so if you're the
number one overall pick, which he was, and when you
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draft somebody number one overall, you think they're gonna take
your franchise to heights that clearly you haven't been in
a while because you have the number one overall pick.
Baker has done what he is supposed to do this season.
They're ten and five. Outside of that Jets game, they've
largely beaten the teams. There's a post too. If you
look at their schedule, it's kind of a group of
unimpressive wins, the Texans, the Jaguars, the Eagles. I agree
with you. Yeah, And so Baker, you're the number one pick.
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By the way, they've and I know our buddy Colin
Cowherd talks about this all the time, and he's right.
They've given you Kareem Hunt, They've given you Nick Chubb,
Jarvis Landry is back this week and Richard he gets
his back this weekend. If you're the number one pick, Baker,
and by the way, this is year three, it's not
eight games into your career like twa year three. If
you're the guy, Baker, you gotta get it done. I'm
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with you on that. And if they lose that game,
then you have to question and say Baker doesn't play well,
you will question it because they have ten wins, had
a chance to get into the playoffs for the first
time since two thousand and seven, right, and they don't
get it done, especially in a situation where you know
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Pittsburgh is saying take it. You're nine and a half
point favorites. Right to lose that nine and a half
point favorites without them starting their starting quarterback in a
game where where where all you need to do you
don't need any help. You win the game, you make
the playoffs. Now the Kyler Murray uh scenario obviously that
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they're in love with him, and I get all that,
but he's taking a step back this year. Would would
you agree with that? Aaron? I mean that the start
of the season, people were ranting and raving. People thought
he was gonna win the MVP. They looked at Patrick Mahomes,
they say, well, he wonted in his second year. Lamar
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Jackson wanted in his second year. Kyler Murray's in the
same situation that they got him Hopkins. Now he can
let loose. And after he beat Buffalo with that Hail Murray,
people were going crazy. Oh yeah, I mean it was
like it's coming out party. And ever since then, they've
corralled him. They've they've taken away his legs, they've made
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him stay in the pocket, get a lot of balls
batted down at the line of scrimmage. It's been a struggle.
Now the Rams don't have their starting quarterback, Cooper Cup's
not playing Henderson, the running backs not playing. I mean,
they gotta beat the Rams. And if they don't, how
would you look at that? Would it be Kyler Murray
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is only a second year. It's not the end of
the world, or you'd have to wonder what happened to
Kyler Murray. I'm willing to give him a little bit
more of the benefit of the doubt than either Baker
or Twa, because at his best he has been significantly
better than both of those guys. But to your point, Rob,
it's not as though we have seen his best for
most of this season. And I think the bigger concern
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for me would be that, really it's the back half
of this schedule which is concerning. You talk about the
Hail Murray play against the Buffalo Bills. Since then they're
two and four. They're only wins are over the Giants
and the Eagles, and I look at that the only
two teams they beat are bad teams. Yes, and you
just lost to the forty nine, who who had a
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third straight quarterback. I was gonna try to do the
Rob Parker says Jimmy Not only was Jimmy Garoppolo not there,
and then I was gonna do the whole CJ. Bethard
more like CJ this, But nothing came into my head.
So listen, I'm still trying to get to that level.
But I do agree with you one hundred percent in
that he hasn't looked the same, He hasn't been as effective.
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And you know you can't say, well, it's a new
head coach, it's a new system. Oh by the way,
we went to get you DeAndre Hopkins. So in a way,
it is a lot like Baker Mayfield, where the path
is there for you. Now the Rams have to win.
It's different than the situation with the Steelers, who the
Browns are playing. But you look at the La Rams
or without their starting quarterback, as you said, some other weapons.
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This is a big one for Kyler Murray too. It
is there's all three of these guys. It'll be interested
in age seven, seven ninety nine off Foxes. I'll telephone
number and I'm just curious, who do you think is
has more to proof because Baker needs to win, Kyler
needs to win, and Tua needs to play well in
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order for Miami to not use that pick right on
a quarterback, wouldn't that change it their drafting stance. If
he stinks up to joint compared to he balls out,
plays great, they make it to the playoffs. Do you
know what I mean? That would change your mind. Fox
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The NBA did have some history making a history making
moment on Wednesday night when Becky Hammond replaced Greg Popovitch.
He was ejected at the AT and T Center in
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San Antonio, and she became the first woman to act
as head coach in a regular season NBA game. And
Popovitch has nothing. You know, they really like her a lot.
He was voted. Aaron is saying, quote, she's earned it,
she has qualified, She's wonderful at what she does, and
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you know, it's just a matter of time now before
this happens. I know people have always questioned whether a
woman could ever make an NBA team, or play or
be on a squad or even a twelfth man or
whatever it is. And to me, it feels like pop
is seventy one how many more years. It feels like
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she's gonna replace him, that that this is gonna be
like his piece of history. He's groomed er, he's put
this in motion, and he believes in her and I
do believe that she will be the first female coach
at the NBA. What did you make of it? She's
forty three years old, she was a six time All
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Star in the w NBA, played sixteen years with the
New York Liberty and the San Antonio Silver Stars. To
the first woman to ever be hired full time on
a coaching step back in twenty fourteen, All of things
line up, you know what I mean? Now there are
eleven women on NBA coaching staff throughout the league, but
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she was the first. What did you think of her
coaching the team? Yeah? I think that to me, you know,
when I saw this, it was obviously an awesome story.
But the reason that you know one, I think you're right.
It feels as though Popovich, you know, it's kind of
his last little go around the organization. He's I think
he's trying to build it up one more time. But
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she has the credentials and she's I bided her time
is not the right way to put it, but she's
put in what is the word she's put in her
she's paid her dues, paid her due. Yes, she's been
with the organizations. It's twenty fourteen. As you said, that
seven years. At this point, it's probably gonna be another
two or three before Popovitch retires. He's gotten a million
other assistants head coaching gigs. Whether it's Brett Brown, who
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was of course with Philadelphia for so long, there's a
bunch of other ones throughout the NBA. And so to me,
he has a very fruitful coaching tree. It's not as
though he's not a guy that hasn't proven that he
can produce NBA head coaches off of his staff. And
she's put in the time. This isn't a gimmick. She's
been there day in and day out for seven years.
And if she's the next quote unquote woman up instead
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of the next man up, I have absolutely no problem
with it. I think it's great for basketball. And we
also just recently Aaron found out that the Red Sox
made history when they hired Bianca Smith. Smith becomes the
first black female coach and professional baseball. She is currently
on the coaching staff at Carol University in Wisconsin, but
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she's gonna be a minor league coach with the Red Sox.
And then we also saw earlier this year, right the
Marlins hired their GM first GM ing who was with
the Dodgers, with the Yankees, and now she's the GM
of the Marlins. So we're seeing all of this um
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change and I just women of ruled nations. I just
don't even think that this is that big of a deal.
Guys have coached women forever. And the greatest college women's
basketball coach, Gene gen Orima Oriama, I was gonna say
no, no no, no, no, no, Gene Oriamma. You know him
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very well at Yukon. Uh right, he had no problem
coaching women. I don't. I don't know why people would.
Do you think people are gonna have a problem with
this so they think it's forced. She doesn't know what
she's doing. She never played in the NBA. How can
you hire a woman as a baseball coach? Never? She
never played them major league on that level. She might
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have played softball. It's a different game, do you know.
I mean, I'm sure that's what people are thinking, that
thinking that just doing it to believe politically correct tokenism.
You know, Oh yeah, they just hired her because she's
a woman. And there's other guys in the NBA, guys
who played in the league. Who deserves a chance at coaching,
there's there'll be a lot of that pushback. Uh, do
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you think it'll be well received or not? Well, I
think for basketball feels to me a little bit different.
I'm not saying that I agree or disagree, but I think, listen,
there's the first of all, it's gonna be pushback with anything.
But I think the pushback in a place like the
NFL or Major League baseball, where as you said, you
know there's never been a female Major League Baseball player.
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That's yeah, that's where I could see pushback. Not saying
it's right, not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying that's
where I think there would be pushback. But the NBA
basketball is basketball. It's the same court, it's the same
height of the rim um. You know, ball is smaller.
I did play Nancy Lieberman in a charity basketball game
back in Detroit when she was coach of the Detroit Shock.
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Aaron I was at the gym. I was feeling good.
I'm making all these shots, knocking them down. We get
to the game one on one and we're playing with
the w NBA ball Oh did you? And I'm not
making an excuse. It doesn't feel the same Aaron, it
felt like a volleyball, you know what I mean, Like
it didn't feel right. So I did score the first
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two baskets of the game. And I want you to
know one of one of our radio partners, a guy
at the station I was working at in Detroit, w DFN,
the late Jamie Samuels, who just passed. But Jamie bet
me twenty dollars that I wouldn't score a basket. I
was like, dude, are you what? So I want you
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to know, Aaron, I scored a basket on the first,
you know, first possession of the game. Score basket, called
time out for the referee, went over to him and
I said, where's my twenty nine? Yeah, as the man
who's who's worked ten shifts this week, I'm not surprised
that you went over and demanded the paycheck. No, I
wanted it. Where's my twenty But my point is, when
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you talk about basketball, guys and girls playing is definitely
more real, right and comparable compared to the other sports.
And I'm not saying that a female if if she
works her way up from the minor leagues the major
leagues or in football from whatever ops coach to position
coach to coordinator that they don't deserve a chance. I
(26:19):
just think that it will. It will feel different in
basketball because the sports, the men's and women's sports are
essentially the same outside of the ball. So do you
think do you feel the same way that that you know, Listen,
Bruce Arians, I think was the first person to hire
a female in whatever role it has happened a little
bit more sense. But I mean, I don't know when
we'll see an NFL head coach that's a female. Do
(26:42):
you feel like that pushback will come, because it's gonna happen,
I would guess at some point. I think football, of
all the sports, would probably be the last. I just
do because of the nature of the game. I think,
like never putting on shoulder pads or what. And I'm
not saying some of the greatest coaches right as we know,
(27:02):
never played in the NFL. Sure, right, So so that
can't be your argument, Well, she didn't play. I know
Bill Belichick played, but he played at a small level.
He was never a great football player, do you know
what I mean? So, but but putting on the pads
and playing who was the coach for the Kansas City
Chiefs who I just his name, just kipp U. I
(27:25):
just lost his name, who didn't play football, who played
golf in college, but his dad was a football coach.
Somebody helped me with that. Yeah, he played. He was
the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. I don't
know why I can't remember Todd Haley. I never played,
never played football to play golf in college, so imagine
(27:48):
he was able to get to that level. And like
I said, his dad was a was a coach, so
that that helped him in. But I don't think that
in football. I think woman would have a harder time.
I do believe Becky Hammond will be will replace Pop
and be the be the head coach too. Yeah, first
of all, I had no idea that Todd Hailey had
(28:10):
not only never played in the NFL, that he played
golf in college. By the way, I found Todd Hailey's
Wikipedia page. He's he's a high school coach now. But anyway,
but am I right? I think in the Wikipedia right
you are? You are, and and I'm with you, and
I think and that's the thing too, And it's it's
the same with all these sports. I first of all,
and you know this better than anybody. Rob You've covered baseball,
(28:31):
You've covered all the major sports, and sometimes, as a
matter of fact, the best players make the worst coaches,
yea and vice versa. Joe Torrey, I know, was a
pretty good, pretty good player, but I mean I think
he made an All Star team a couple of times.
But I mean he wasn't Johnny Bench or Carlton Fisk,
you know, but but he was. He knew the game,
he understood the game. I mean, you go across basketball, uh,
(28:53):
Greg Popovic played uh I think at an air Force maybe,
but he didn't play in the NBA. I'm going you know,
Phil Jackson played as a role player, but he was
at a star. So I'm with you in that. You know,
it shouldn't be a prerequisite. I'm all for the most
qualified person getting the opportunity, regardless of male, female, obviously,
(29:14):
any racial gender, you know whatever. I don't really care.
Give me the best person to do the job. And
so if down the road there is a female that's
good enough to be an NFL head coach, I honestly
have no problem with it. I really don't
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