June 17, 2023 • 40 mins
In hour 2 of this week’s edition of Up On Game with LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burres react to this week’s Legendary Moment with Erol Spence and Bud Crawford. The guys also discuss Derek Carr’s desire to play better with the Saints, Christian McCaffrey’s comments about running backs and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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of shows there as well. All Right, we got a
lot to get you in such a short amount of time.
We'll talk about Derek Carr in a matter of moments,
(01:22):
but first before we get to that, you know, I
had an opportunity to go down to the Beverly Hills
Hotel and do one on ones with with Earl Spinch
Junior and with Terrence Budd Crawford for this mega fight
that's taking place shots out the Rett Butler and pretty
left hook on up on game presents for for hooking
(01:43):
up and setting up the interview opportunity.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
It's interesting.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I want you guys to listen to this because and
preparing for what we do, wouldn't you guys say, film
study is probably maybe the most critical aspect of preparation
and our profession watching film, taking notes on the film.
(02:10):
Would you guys agree disagree? What would your take on
it be?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
Film study will will give you an idea of how
a guy plays. But you got to take into account
he ain't gonna do the same thing on you that
he did with somebody else because you, guys moved differently,
you play differently. That level of fear that he may
have with you as opposed to the guy that you're
(02:38):
watching on You just don't know what he's going through,
but it would give you an understanding of how he moves.
But no one guy is gonna play the same versus
two different players.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Man.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
Film study for me, Man was ninety nine percent of
my game, you know, going into a Sunday understanding the
tendencies of how defensive back would play if he was
in press coverage, off coverage. Well, how what kind of
leverage you would play with me? If I knew I
was gonna be in a bracket situation. He's playing over
the top, he's playing underneath. And what I used to
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study was it was basically, you know how guys played
in certain down and distances. You know, second in two
to four, you know third and three to seven, you know,
third and fifteen or whatever the case may be. I
justly checked for tendencies man, and and see you know,
if they were like a bucket ball guy and you
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know thirty long, or were they trying to keep me
in the same vision as a quarterback so he could
get a better jump on the ball to you know,
to compete with the ball on third down and different
things like that. Man, it's understanding blitzes, and you know,
I even went as far as to understanding fronts, you know,
the double muggy and the a gaps, you know, three
four wide nine. It gave me I was more subject
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to a wheel of free state. They if if the
defense end was kicked, you know, three four yards outside
of the tackle. So me going into the game, man,
that was everything you know, you know for my game,
and it helps tremendously. Man, where you got a beat
on a guy and you understand what he has a
tendency to do in a certain situation that's allowed. He
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used to play faster and use all your ability. You
know that that you have. So I was always a
film guy, man, and this understanding you know what those
guys who want to do. Even going down to the
Super Bowl. You know, obviously we played the the the
Patriots in Week sixteen, and I got into such a
similar situation to where you know, they were jumping into
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a blitz zero. And for some reason, I watched the
three or four games before that and Ellis House he
would always back up to the to the goal line
and play inside and he would stop his feet. And
I said to myself before the Rouhimer said, listen, if
this man backs up like I seen on film and
he stops his feet at the goal line in coach zero,
even make a move, I' much just run right bomb
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and I quitit all that minute, just taking the time
to study him and understand what he was going to do.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I think both in a lot of sports, it's very scientific,
right Like it's it's kind of you know, I count
to three when I pass rush because I know, unless
it's a run or if it's like a quick type
of screenplayer or whatever, that offensive linement is going to
kick three times before he stops to try to do
what he's going to do.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Does he have long arms? Does he have short arms?
Speaker 5 (05:31):
You know, we can't hide what our DNA as a
player is going to be no matter who we are.
So I always felt it was interesting to find the tendencies,
even though you may play me differently and you may
do things to try to kind of switch up. Because
I got caught a few times, like I used to
leap frog dudes in college and people will be like,
how'd you do it? How did you know when to
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actually leap over a dude versus do something else? And
I said, I learned the tendencies of what they're willing
to do. If a guy is going to commit to
chop blocking me, his eyes immediately go to his target.
So before I even get to you, I saw his
eyes and his head drop.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
I'm a leap frog. You you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
If it's a you mentioned down in distance, if it's
a short down in distance, and I know the tendencies
of the team. Okay, when I did the LeVar leap,
which is be the twenty fifth anniversary this year. By
the way, make sure you check out for a bibblehead.
We'll get your bibblehead at some point. But I in
that play study Illinois. Illinois on any short down yardage
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play where they needed to get where they wanted to go,
ran out of the huddle soon as the quarterback got
under center. They went on first sound and they were
low and they're because they were chopping off off of
the line. Sure enough it was it was fourth and short.
This was a great drive for them. Boom they come
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sprinting out of the out of the huddle. Yep, there's
the first one. Check it off. They got low and
they're in there and they're in their stands they're heavy
on their hands. There's the second one. Here comes the
quarterback running under center. There's the third one. I'm going
as soon as he gets under the center, I'm going
if I if I'm off sides and they get the
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first down.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Then I played the hill.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
But if they do exactly what it is that I
watched over and over and over again, I'm gonna I'm
gonna leap over this line and I'm gonna make this play.
And that's exactly what happened. The reason why I tell
this story, guys, is this week's up on Game Conversations
with a Legend Earl Spence Junior and my man Terrence
Budd Crawford. They talked about their opinions and how they
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approach film study. Take a listen.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Love Conversations with a Legend and now this is your
jendary moment.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
It's all about film study where I come from. So
my confidence going into a game was always based off
of I'm watching my opponents so much that I know
my opponent is going to do what I'm anticipating him
to do. Is that the same approach that you take
and getting ready for the fights.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Well, for me, I'm so much a fan of the sport,
like I didn't. I didn't have to watch like these first,
like these last, like ten guys, I don't have to
watch them because I watched them all the time. Like
tans Croft, I've been watching tans Craft, for Sean Porter,
Dan Garcia, all these guys. I've been watching them, and
I've been watching them so much that I don't have
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to go and watch they fights because I already know
the things they do. I know how they fight, because
I'm a student of the game. Like sometimes I watch film,
I'm just watching how he movies feed, or watching how
you react when you get hit with a good shot.
You know, just certain things like that that I want,
and I pay attention to it and been paying attention
to that. I'm so familiar with him already. I don't
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have to watch him because me just being a fan,
I've been watching him fight, you know, for the longiest
and I've been watching all his fights and not even
knowing I was gonna fight him, I've been watched him fight.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I'm gonna ask you the same question that I asked
your opponent. I always sat and I was a film watcher,
watched a ton of film, film, film, film, rewind rewind rewind.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
What is your way of preparing?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No opponent is gonna fight me the same way they
thought they previous supponent or any other opponent they faced.
So I don't get into much of film watching because
film marching can.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Mislead you in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I leave that to my coaches, and they prepare me
to the best of availability, and come fight night, it
always work out because if I'm at the top of
my it doesn't matter what you do or how you
do it. I'm going to make my adjustments on the fly,
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and the rest is downhill for my opponents.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
All right.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
So the first voice you heard was Earl Spence Junior,
and the second voice you heard, obviously was was Terrence
Bud Crawford. Neither one of them are big on really
getting that deep into the film, and Bud kind of
gave the same type of reasoning you gave TJ in
terms of that I'm not going to get the same
(10:33):
thing from that opponent. Nobody's going to fight me the
way that they fight another opponent, which I found.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
It to be very interesting. They leaned very heavily.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Both of them talked about leaning very heavily on what
their trainers are teaching them and preparing them to do
I guess I would assume, you know, jumping over a
line or making a tackle, or reading a pass or
reading coverage. And it's very different than taking a chance
or anticipating or assuming that's something that you saw on
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film in a boxing match. I mean that could cost
you getting knocked the hell out, which I would assume
in football you get knocked the hell out too. If
if what you you know, like I said, I did
get caught. Somebody caught my tendency. So we were playing
against Iowa. The guy lowered his head, he lowered his eyes,
he lowered his head, and I went to leap frogging,
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and he popped up like he squatted on me. He
didn't he didn't do the traditional I'm a chop block you.
He put his head down like he was going to
hit my knee like they always did when I leapfrogged him,
but he squatted instead of lunging. And when I got
when I when I went and left my feet, he
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exploded through and I saw sky fans ground, sky fans ground,
and just covered up. I covered up my head just
I didn't want to, you know, have any type of
tragic injury take place. But I just found it to
be very interesting and very I was very curious to
see what their response would be.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
What would y'alls take away from from their responses?
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Boxing is a different different game in football, and it's
one hundred percent. If you're a big puncher, guy's gonna
fight you different And so you can watch film, they're
gonna approach you differently. If you're extremely quick, they're gonna
approach you differently. Even even in football. You guys gave
an answer of the complexity or the offensive and defensive system.
(12:28):
I just went off of a one on one battle
with a dB and so like Whizard Cincinnati, I give
you an example, like when we they didn't even really let
us meet individually with our position coach, and so we
would watch film with the offensive line and quarterbacks and
the receivers. The running backs was the only position group
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that got to leave and go meet what they what
they coaches individually.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
We had to sit in individual means as wide receiver, No.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
We did, but when we like when we did blitz,
we sat in there. And so like the guys like
I had to pay attention to that because I was
in the slot, so I was the one breaking hot.
And so for me, when you play the Steelers and
you get Palamalu on the line, we used to call
a foster two blitz. You know he's gonna come inside
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of you. Don't let him cross face backside. James Harrison
is gonna drop to the flats, to the corner. It's
gonna drop to the half. The other safety is gonna
drop to the other half. Like once you saw Polamalu
at the line of scrimmage and James Harrison was standing
up and he started to back up. We kind of
knew what was coming. Things of that nature. The defensive system, yes,
but when you're talking about a corn just your one
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on one battle, everybody's going to play you differently. A
guy gonna not gonna play me in plaques the same
way you get aggressive with plackscoa at the line of scrimmage.
If you want to, he gonna throw your ass to
the side and it's gonna be a touch. You not
gonna do that to him, but you may do it
to me or somebody else. And so you see those
things and they're not gonna play you the same way
(14:03):
that they play somebody else.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
But the fact that they make adjustments. What about comps?
What if it is a guy that's built like a
game like you?
Speaker 7 (14:10):
And that's those are the games, and that's the film
that you try to focus on to see what was working.
Like when I did a lot of film study, like
an off season, I would just get I would tell
the video guy Travis Brammer with Cincinnati, Hey, I need
make me a DVD.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
You know they couldn't send ITVD. Ten might VH twelve.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
He would send me ten to twelve receivers all they targets,
and I will watch them entire offseason to see what
I could implement from their game and put it into mind.
I'm taking stuff from their game and I'm gonna put
it in my game. And so I studied the guys
that my peers to see what I can take from
their game to implement in mind. But yeah, the boxing
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game is completely different because it's that fear factor of
if I move wrong, if I do the wrong thing,
it slights.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Out, word read and react. LaVar is listening to your story, man.
That was one of the main reasons why I never
I don't think I ever leaked of anybody, because I'm saying, listen,
my legs too damn long to get out of the way,
and I'm gonna end up like you with a mouthful
of dirt. So I don't think I ever leaked over
anybody for that reason, I couldn't get my legs.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Out of the I don't even really jump.
Speaker 8 (15:29):
I jumped behindes when I was competing for a football
in the air, not trying to jump over somebody. But yeah, man,
listening to those guys, man, I think if you want
to be great at any craft that you are in
or what that you're working on, you have to be
a student of it, just like those guys were referring
to and talking about. And to understand, you know, boxing
(15:51):
is a lot different football because it's basically a reaction
sport based off of what you're looking at right in
front of you. With that being said, you know, it's
one hundred percent correct. Everybody's gonna fight an opponent different,
but uh, you gotta love what you do, and they
are students of the game, just like they were saying.
(16:12):
And I think this thing is gonna be a tremendous
fighting and hopefully LeVar can get us some tickets and
we can get down there.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah, hopefully Reck can help us get some tickets. Butler,
let's say if we could get that pretty left hook.
All right, So yeah, we're gonna switch over.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
We're gonna transition into football, back into the National Football League,
and well, the topic of conversation, Derek Carr, what it is, Well, we'll.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Let you know that.
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Speaker 5 (17:33):
Why okay, yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Come on bizarre give them that.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, uh, welcome back into the show. It's up
on Game if you know, gotta get you some bard,
you know, whow here we go. We're rejoining you in
the up on Game Live studio.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
That's right.
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It's kind of not the up on Game Live studio,
but it's like it's up on Game and we're live
and it's Tyrack dot com studio.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Is what I really wanted to say to you. That's right.
It's t J.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Hitchman's I's Plexico Burs, I'm LeVar Errings and I just
get hyped up sometimes.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Man.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
That was Shady, that was Slim, That was that was
d What is that d dB four, D twelve? Is
it D twelve?
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Yeah? You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Anyway, speaking of performances and getting excited about those those performances. Guys. Well,
some people weren't excited about Derek Carr's performances last year,
and I guess mainly he was one of his biggest
uh critics. And here's what he had to say recently
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about what took place last year.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
I just they just didn't get my best, you know,
and and that that drove me crazy at the end
of the year because I was I felt so spread
out in so many different ways. That's hard for you
to understand, because what's happening in my mind and in
my life, you know, but I felt so spread out,
and I was trying to do this, trying to do that,
trying to get the guys excited about a certain thing
or a certain way, even though they could see on
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my face it was tough and things like that, you know,
in certain ways, and you know, I just didn't feel
like myself and I feel bad to the coaches and
the players today. They didn't get my best.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
So I think I think Derek Carr is a fine
young man. I think he he possesses strong moral values.
He clearly exercises courage in terms of just being candid
and transparent about how he feels about certain things.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
But I don't know that this was warranted Fellas, I
don't I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
That if as good a dude as he is, and
as you know, he's got that Christian faith and strong
beliefs and that that system of just being that way
and giving testimonies and stuff like, I don't know that
he needed to do that because I'm looking at a
dumpster fire of a team in the Las Vegas Raiders
(20:03):
and listen, it's not I don't think it for anyone
say he didn't get they didn't get his best. Yeah,
I guess for me, I'm sitting there and I'm feeling
in my mind, I'm feeling in my mind for him
to respond and his his his press conference to say
those things. I mean, why why even offer that at
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this point, like that's in the past, you know, Are
you trying to justify why you weren't good at the
end of the year?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Are you? Are you like, is there a justife? Is there?
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Is there another reason why you would take that road
and apologize again and say they didn't get my best
and start trying to explain it that way.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
And you're in a.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Different uniform, Because to me, I think that you don't
have to justify what took place in Las Vegas, because
I think we already know how dysfunctional the Raiders are
right now. I mean, you guys, get me your take
on it, but I just kind of felt like, what
what was the reasoning behind even offering this.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Number one. I believe he felt like he would be
a Raider his entire career.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
I think that's what he wanted, and so he's probably
still has an affinity for the Raiders and wanting to
be there. Obviously, Devonte Adams leaves his situation in Green
Bay and becomes a Las Vegas Raider because of Carr,
and now that situation they not even playing together now,
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so he feels like, Devonte Adams goes out of his
way Lee's Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers to come play
with me.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
I'm not there. We didn't have a good year. I
didn't have a good year when I got hurt.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Jared Siddam comes in and throws for almost four hundred
yards and it's the number one defense in the league,
in the San Francisco forty nine ers. So I believe
it's just a little bit of disappointment in how things went.
Considering Devonte Adams did what he did to come up
play with him.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
But I believe he still wants to be a Raider.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
He always wanted to finish career, his career with the
Raiders just a little bit of disappointment.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
I mean, I'll say this, I don't believe that Derek
Carr is an elite quarterback.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
You know, just over the past.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
You know his career and you know the season some
of the seasons that he has had has been good,
but not good enough to make him a top ten
quarterback to call him elite.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
And I just can't can't.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
I just can't understand for me to me why the
Las Vegas Raiders will go out all this way to
acquire DeVante Adams and you get rid of Derek Carr
the following season because he basically gave up everything saying
that you know, he wanted to compete to win a championship.
And now though now that championship for Davante Adams and
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the Raiders are even looking even more bleak, you know,
moving forward. But if you look at Derek carr season
last year, he think he apps like two hundred and
thirty yards pass he only completed sixty percent of his
passes in the first four games that they lost, they
lost by four points, four points, three points, and two.
So you can't really just hang it all on him
offensively and say that, you know, he wasn't able to
(23:15):
get the job done, because Davante Adams still had an
all Pro season at fifteen hundred yards and I be
least twelve touchdowns, so he wasn't too bad. But I
think the Raiders moving forward, they needed to make a
change because there just wasn't something going right between Derek
Carr and Josh McDaniels and they decided to move on.
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But for him moving forward to the New Orleans Saints,
you look at the quarterbacks that were on the roster
pride to him arriving. I believe that Derek Carr would
be the better option, you know, for the Saints going
into this, going into the twenty twenty three season. But
I don't expect for him to just go down to
New Orleans and just light it up, and you know,
they start off six seven and er and you know
(23:58):
Leavar is going to be talking about the Saints are
going to win the division again when they finished dead last.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Then, but I think they will be better offensively Michael Thomas,
getting him healthy.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
See, if you can keep them around a little bit longer.
We need to get they need to get.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Alvin Kamara back to his All Pro status, getting him
the football, you know, letting him create and make plays.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
But I think he's the best option. Yeah, I'm not busy. Yeah,
based off of what happened at the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Yeah, okay, so well well that just went to offense.
So they'll they'll just try to, you know, put a
product on the field that they can go out and
compete in that division. But I still believe that they'll
finish last in the division.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
M hmm.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
All right, well all right, so quick, just real quick
before we get to Nick on the update, who you
think has a better season New Orleans or the Raiders,
Saints or Raiders ahead.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
I'm going to say, right, I'm going to say Raiders
because of you know, just because of the defense, you know,
Max Crosby, Chanla Jones, you know, some of those guys
and offensive, but they still have the DeVante Adams. No, no,
Darren Waller, he's with the Giants. You still have a
Hunter Winfro Josh Jacobs. So I believe offensive they have
(25:20):
a better offense than the New Orleans Saints do. But
you know, I think they have a better I think
the Raiders have a better season.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I'll say it will be the Saints and it won't
be close.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
And the reason for that is you have the LA Chargers,
Kansas City Chiefs, and the Denver Broncos, who will be
much better with Sean Pagton as their head coach in
your division. And then you look at the Saints division
with the Tampa Bay Bucks. Who's the quarterback? Oh, we
don't know, Baker Kyle Trast. You look at the Falcons
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and Desimon Ritter, and you look at the Carolina pass Oh,
they have a rookie. And so I'm gonna say it
will be the Saints and it won't even be close.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Oh wow, All right, Well, well you have been wrong before.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
No, I'm right pretty much.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Oh man, you came on here, Lakers would beat the
Denver Nugget.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
You were wrong. I mean I was picking with my wife. Probably,
but it's okay. Probably.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Hey, Hey, I'm wrong. I'm like a bro clock. I'm
only wrong twice. It's always right twice a day. Broke
clock is right twice a day.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Twice a day. There you go.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Well, I'll tell you who isn't wrong. He gives us
our headlines. Is my man, Nick Cope? What you got
for trending?
Speaker 6 (26:31):
My guy?
Speaker 9 (26:31):
All right? Thank you, LeVar. The West Virginia basketball coach
Bob Huggins was arrested on a DOI charge last night
in Pittsburgh. He was released with a preliminary hearing said
for a later date. The university said in a statement
they're aware of the incident or in the process of
gathering more information, and we'll take appropriate action once the
review is complete. This comes after Huggins received a three
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game suspension and a million dollar pay cut last month
for using an anti gay slur during a radio interview.
West Virginia also modified his contract to be on a
year to year basis. Third round of the US Open
underway at LA Country Club. Ricky Fowler is your leader
at ten under par. Wyndham Clark one shot back in
second place. Roy McRoy and Xander Schoffley tied for third
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there two shots back of Fowler. Notable names that missed
the cut Max olm Of, Phil Mickelson and Jordan Speith.
The leaders will not be teeing off today until the
six pm Eastern hour. In college football, four star quarterback
Austin Simmons flipped his commitment from Florida to Ole Miss
and in the NFL, Patriots corner Jack Jones was arrested
yesterday after two firearms were found in his travel luggage
(27:40):
at Boston's Logan Airport. Let's go back to up on game.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Back to you.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Guys, appreciate you, cope.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Now let me throw this one out at you fellas,
since you all receivers, y'all good at catching things. Sakwon Barkley,
Josh Jacobs, Dalvin Cook, Ezekiel Elliott. If I were to
tell you those four names are in limbo as to
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what their career holds for them in the future, would
you find that to be believable? And then the next
thing I would ask, and I will give you a
SoundBite to bring this thing home.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
For the ones that you would find.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Valuable, like say a Christian McCaffrey or an Alvin Kamara,
they even are feeling the pressure in the strain of
the position. So before you answer this question, listen to
what Christian McCaffrey had to say about what he feels
about the current state of how running backs are being
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respected in the pay column.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
When I look at what you know receivers make and
far receivers make around the league, and then you look
at what running backs make, you know, we're at the
bottom of the list. And you know, you got backs
who at two thousand yard seasons. You've had backs who've
had seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred yards receiving,
And you know, a lot of people use the injury
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the injury argument, but and I don't know if that's
necessarily valid when you look at some of the receivers
who have been heart who still get big contracts, and
so I understand we touch the ball the most, but
in my opinion, I think we create a lot of
value in doing so as well. So there's a lot
of arguments multiple ways, but I definitely think somewhere along
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the line the franchise tag and what the market did
to the running back position, I think they're definitely undervalued.
And I think if you ask the running backs around
the league, they would probably say the same thing.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Now that's from the Rich Eisens Show. What's your guys
take on this? I mean, is it fair to say
that the running back position is being diminished to a
very very large capacity. And what does it mean for
the future of the position? You know what it is. One,
(30:08):
it sucks for them. If you're a running back, it
does suck for them. But this is what has happened.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
You've seen running backs that are undrafted get a thousand yards.
You've seen running backs that are late round draft picks
come in and play and play extremely well and so
and it's not just here and there. It's often like
Alvin Kamara was drafted and I believe in the third round,
maybe the fourth round.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Out of Tennessee.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
You can get guys at the running back position later on.
And now with the analytics involved in footballs oh, when
a guy has x amount of carries on his body,
he starts to go downhill after so many carries. Everybody's
not a physical freak like Derrick Henry. And so when
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you're at the peak of their careers, say you a
first round draft pick. This is where they've been wrong
the running backs. If your first round draft pick day,
in essence, have you for six years because you get draft,
you have four year contract. They pick up the fifth
year option. They franchise you. After that, they gonna throw
you to the wayside. Then they've given you two hundred
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and fifty carries probably each year. Now they just gonna
get another guy to replace you. Whereas when you look
at the receiver position, it's very rare that you can
just say, oh, we're gonna draft this guy and he
gonna come in and get it done. If you got
a good offensive line, nine times out of ten, that
running back gonna make it happen.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
And no disrespect the best of the best. They can't
be replaced.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
The Christian McCaffrey's and Kamars, the Nick Chubbs and the
Derrick Henrys and those guys, they can't be replaced. But
the second tier guys, it's been shown that they can
be replaced, and that's why they're in this position. It
sucks for them because they should be making more money
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early in their career when they're getting this big load
of offensive they're carrying offense, and I've always they get
the ball twenty five thirty times a.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Game and they make the least. That boggles my mind.
You know, listening to Kristy McCaffrey, you know, speak on this.
You know, saying that the running back position is undervalued.
It's not undervalued in the aspect of performance, it's undervalue
and pay. So there's a misconception of what he's saying
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is that the trust me, we love our running backs
because we're not running the football, then I can't get
the balls. So those things kind of go hand to hand.
But Christan McCaffrey and Sakuon Barkley, they have showed us
over the past few years how hard it is to
stay healthy at the position. And when you have a
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guy like a Christian McCaffrey, ay Coon Barkley, you draft
him with the second pick in the draft or I
think he was a second PIF and I think Dalvin
Cook was Caffrey. Of of those three, of the six
that you name, those are the only three that are
first round picks. And other than Dalvin Cook, he's been
you know, he's been healthy over his first five or
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six years. However along he's been in the league, I
think he's still a dynamic running back. But it's just
a hard position for those guys to stay healthy. At
the days of you know, Jerome playing fourteen years and
the Frank Gors those days are gone. Fifteen sixteen year
running backs that the league is it's not going to allow,
you know, guys to stay around that long. And if
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you can stay healthy that long, then you'll probably be
sitting home on the couch. But you know, it's not undervalue.
We're just seeing, like we had this conversation a few
weeks ago the ISA, but checkos who six round pick
and you know, Miles Sanders. Those guys come in and
get inserted into an offense and now this team fits
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this guy's style, so he looks better than what another
guy was because all of the doing or doing the
scouting and there, and that player is allowed to play
their stripths to whatever that offense may be doing. But uh,
you just gotta stay healthy and it's hard to do.
It is hard to do stay healthy at the running
back position, especially with all the pounder and everything that
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they're going to be taken. And now people are already
talking about Derrick Henry, you know, too many carries or
he's going downhill and.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
You don't even get it.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
They're not even giving these guys a chance to go
out and to prove themselves going forward because they already
have this misconception. They're gonna put a narrative out there
and stay with it, and and and it's unfortunate. And
now they got to go out there and prove themselves
again and again and again, you know, just to get paid.
But I think it's unfair that he compared the wide receivers,
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you know, gets money, and why receivers are not. It's
all about business, Wood, It's business.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
You know, the third receiver on a lot of teams
is making more than the top paid running back, which
I'm assuming is McCaffrey and Kamar they're the highest paid
running backs and Derek Henry in the league third receiver
on many teams making more than what they making.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
That's crazy.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
Oh, to get back to what you said in the
beginning with I didn't even answer the questions. All these
guys positions in limbo. They're not in limbo. It's the
business side of it that is devaluating these guys, you know,
paying how much they should be getting paid. Everybody knows
when Sa Kwan balk is a healthy man, he's one
of the best players in the world. And saying with
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Christian McCaffey and those guys Alvin Kamara, Dalvin when those
guys are healthy, man, They're the most dynamic players at
the position in the league.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
It's not their fault.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
What's been happening over the past few years with these
teams getting these backs later in the draft and a
shining it happened, and now the team say, know what, well,
I'm not gonna pay this guy fifteen million dollars a
year when I can pay a guyun six hundred and
fifty thousand.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
And you gotta hold on to it to pay these
quarterbacks too. That's Plexico burst, that's t J. Huschman Zaida.
We're gonna take a quick break. On the other side.
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Speaker 6 (37:46):
All right, So.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Before we get out of here, I wanted us to
touch on something other than the you know, the running
backs or quarterbacks, which we've already discussed. Here's a receiver's tale.
OBJ has some some things to say. He talked about
his injury in the Super Bowl, talked about you know
where he's at just wondering very quickly, is this a
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do or dies? It's a must have success season for OBJ.
But here's what he had to say before I get
y'all's take.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
It sucks. There's no ay around it.
Speaker 12 (38:20):
It's literally you know you've dreamed of you know, I've
watched plenty of Super Bowls and finally it was, you know,
my opportunity.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
And I was so locked in.
Speaker 12 (38:29):
I remember my mom and my people were like, I've
never seen you, you know, like that before a game,
and I just I could just feel it that day
when I woke up, I knew that I was probably
gonna be the best person.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
On the field. I had been feeling it all week.
And it just sucks.
Speaker 12 (38:41):
You know, I didn't get to live out that moment.
It's not for the Instagram posts or nothing like that,
Like this is really something I've dedicated my entire life
to this game and this sport and just wanted to
have that moment. But you know, God had already came
to me and he said, if I win the next
time showfully this year, you get an opportunity. He said,
I know this shit was better, but we'll make sure
that it's probably the best juice you ever taste, And
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that's probably in my mind. That's just how I keep
the perspective is that hopefully I'll get another opportunity to
do that. And you know, life happens to you, so
you just got to keep rolling with the flow of
it and we live and we learn.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
All Right, we got two minutes left. But is this
a make or break season for OBJ if he wants to.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Be considered one of the top players and make the
type of money that he wants to make. Absolutely, he
didn't play last year, and he's had so many injuries
in previous years. If he doesn't play well or if
he gets hurt, yeah, this will be a rap. I
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mean it's already a rap as him being one of
the top receivers in the league. These young guys is coming.
He won't get back to that. But as far as
being paid and his name just being brought up along
with the best receivers, that's that will no longer be
the case.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Super quick pleas.
Speaker 8 (39:57):
I just think for him moving forward, men, it's all
about his health. When he's healthy, he's one of the
best players in the world. Maybe not to you know,
the point, can he stay healthy? Can he stay healthy?
And you then to remain consistent throughout sixteen weeks. And
if he does that, I think he'll play well enough
to convince another team to give him another contract.
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We'll talk about Derek Carr in a matter of moments,
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but first before we get to that, you know, I
had an opportunity to go down to the Beverly Hills
Hotel and do one on ones with with Earl Spinch
Junior and with Terrence Budd Crawford for this mega fight
that's taking place shots out the Rett Butler and pretty
left hook on up on game presents for for hooking
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up and setting up the interview opportunity.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
It's interesting.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I want you guys to listen to this because and
preparing for what we do, wouldn't you guys say, film
study is probably maybe the most critical aspect of preparation
and our profession watching film, taking notes on the film.
(02:10):
Would you guys agree disagree? What would your take on
it be?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
Film study will will give you an idea of how
a guy plays. But you got to take into account
he ain't gonna do the same thing on you that
he did with somebody else because you, guys moved differently,
you play differently. That level of fear that he may
have with you as opposed to the guy that you're
(02:38):
watching on You just don't know what he's going through,
but it would give you an understanding of how he moves.
But no one guy is gonna play the same versus
two different players.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
Man.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
Film study for me, Man was ninety nine percent of
my game, you know, going into a Sunday understanding the
tendencies of how defensive back would play if he was
in press coverage, off coverage. Well, how what kind of
leverage you would play with me? If I knew I
was gonna be in a bracket situation. He's playing over
the top, he's playing underneath. And what I used to
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study was it was basically, you know how guys played
in certain down and distances. You know, second in two
to four, you know third and three to seven, you know,
third and fifteen or whatever the case may be. I
justly checked for tendencies man, and and see you know,
if they were like a bucket ball guy and you
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know thirty long, or were they trying to keep me
in the same vision as a quarterback so he could
get a better jump on the ball to you know,
to compete with the ball on third down and different
things like that. Man, it's understanding blitzes, and you know,
I even went as far as to understanding fronts, you know,
the double muggy and the a gaps, you know, three
four wide nine. It gave me I was more subject
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to a wheel of free state. They if if the
defense end was kicked, you know, three four yards outside
of the tackle. So me going into the game, man,
that was everything you know, you know for my game,
and it helps tremendously. Man, where you got a beat
on a guy and you understand what he has a
tendency to do in a certain situation that's allowed. He
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used to play faster and use all your ability. You
know that that you have. So I was always a
film guy, man, and this understanding you know what those
guys who want to do. Even going down to the
Super Bowl. You know, obviously we played the the the
Patriots in Week sixteen, and I got into such a
similar situation to where you know, they were jumping into
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a blitz zero. And for some reason, I watched the
three or four games before that and Ellis House he
would always back up to the to the goal line
and play inside and he would stop his feet. And
I said to myself before the Rouhimer said, listen, if
this man backs up like I seen on film and
he stops his feet at the goal line in coach zero,
even make a move, I' much just run right bomb
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and I quitit all that minute, just taking the time
to study him and understand what he was going to do.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
I think both in a lot of sports, it's very scientific,
right Like it's it's kind of you know, I count
to three when I pass rush because I know, unless
it's a run or if it's like a quick type
of screenplayer or whatever, that offensive linement is going to
kick three times before he stops to try to do
what he's going to do.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Does he have long arms? Does he have short arms?
Speaker 5 (05:31):
You know, we can't hide what our DNA as a
player is going to be no matter who we are.
So I always felt it was interesting to find the tendencies,
even though you may play me differently and you may
do things to try to kind of switch up. Because
I got caught a few times, like I used to
leap frog dudes in college and people will be like,
how'd you do it? How did you know when to
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actually leap over a dude versus do something else? And
I said, I learned the tendencies of what they're willing
to do. If a guy is going to commit to
chop blocking me, his eyes immediately go to his target.
So before I even get to you, I saw his
eyes and his head drop.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
I'm a leap frog. You you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
If it's a you mentioned down in distance, if it's
a short down in distance, and I know the tendencies
of the team. Okay, when I did the LeVar leap,
which is be the twenty fifth anniversary this year. By
the way, make sure you check out for a bibblehead.
We'll get your bibblehead at some point. But I in
that play study Illinois. Illinois on any short down yardage
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play where they needed to get where they wanted to go,
ran out of the huddle soon as the quarterback got
under center. They went on first sound and they were
low and they're because they were chopping off off of
the line. Sure enough it was it was fourth and short.
This was a great drive for them. Boom they come
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sprinting out of the out of the huddle. Yep, there's
the first one. Check it off. They got low and
they're in there and they're in their stands they're heavy
on their hands. There's the second one. Here comes the
quarterback running under center. There's the third one. I'm going
as soon as he gets under the center, I'm going
if I if I'm off sides and they get the
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first down.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Then I played the hill.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
But if they do exactly what it is that I
watched over and over and over again, I'm gonna I'm
gonna leap over this line and I'm gonna make this play.
And that's exactly what happened. The reason why I tell
this story, guys, is this week's up on Game Conversations
with a Legend Earl Spence Junior and my man Terrence
Budd Crawford. They talked about their opinions and how they
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approach film study. Take a listen.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Love Conversations with a Legend and now this is your
jendary moment.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
It's all about film study where I come from. So
my confidence going into a game was always based off
of I'm watching my opponents so much that I know
my opponent is going to do what I'm anticipating him
to do. Is that the same approach that you take
and getting ready for the fights.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Well, for me, I'm so much a fan of the sport,
like I didn't. I didn't have to watch like these first,
like these last, like ten guys, I don't have to
watch them because I watched them all the time. Like
tans Croft, I've been watching tans Craft, for Sean Porter,
Dan Garcia, all these guys. I've been watching them, and
I've been watching them so much that I don't have
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to go and watch they fights because I already know
the things they do. I know how they fight, because
I'm a student of the game. Like sometimes I watch film,
I'm just watching how he movies feed, or watching how
you react when you get hit with a good shot.
You know, just certain things like that that I want,
and I pay attention to it and been paying attention
to that. I'm so familiar with him already. I don't
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have to watch him because me just being a fan,
I've been watching him fight, you know, for the longiest
and I've been watching all his fights and not even
knowing I was gonna fight him, I've been watched him fight.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I'm gonna ask you the same question that I asked
your opponent. I always sat and I was a film watcher,
watched a ton of film, film, film, film, rewind rewind rewind.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
What is your way of preparing?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No opponent is gonna fight me the same way they
thought they previous supponent or any other opponent they faced.
So I don't get into much of film watching because
film marching can.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Mislead you in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I leave that to my coaches, and they prepare me
to the best of availability, and come fight night, it
always work out because if I'm at the top of
my it doesn't matter what you do or how you
do it. I'm going to make my adjustments on the fly,
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and the rest is downhill for my opponents.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
All right.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
So the first voice you heard was Earl Spence Junior,
and the second voice you heard, obviously was was Terrence
Bud Crawford. Neither one of them are big on really
getting that deep into the film, and Bud kind of
gave the same type of reasoning you gave TJ in
terms of that I'm not going to get the same
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thing from that opponent. Nobody's going to fight me the
way that they fight another opponent, which I found.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
It to be very interesting. They leaned very heavily.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Both of them talked about leaning very heavily on what
their trainers are teaching them and preparing them to do
I guess I would assume, you know, jumping over a
line or making a tackle, or reading a pass or
reading coverage. And it's very different than taking a chance
or anticipating or assuming that's something that you saw on
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film in a boxing match. I mean that could cost
you getting knocked the hell out, which I would assume
in football you get knocked the hell out too. If
if what you you know, like I said, I did
get caught. Somebody caught my tendency. So we were playing
against Iowa. The guy lowered his head, he lowered his eyes,
he lowered his head, and I went to leap frogging,
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and he popped up like he squatted on me. He
didn't he didn't do the traditional I'm a chop block you.
He put his head down like he was going to
hit my knee like they always did when I leapfrogged him,
but he squatted instead of lunging. And when I got
when I when I went and left my feet, he
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exploded through and I saw sky fans ground, sky fans ground,
and just covered up. I covered up my head just
I didn't want to, you know, have any type of
tragic injury take place. But I just found it to
be very interesting and very I was very curious to
see what their response would be.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
What would y'alls take away from from their responses?
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Boxing is a different different game in football, and it's
one hundred percent. If you're a big puncher, guy's gonna
fight you different And so you can watch film, they're
gonna approach you differently. If you're extremely quick, they're gonna
approach you differently. Even even in football. You guys gave
an answer of the complexity or the offensive and defensive system.
(12:28):
I just went off of a one on one battle
with a dB and so like Whizard Cincinnati, I give
you an example, like when we they didn't even really let
us meet individually with our position coach, and so we
would watch film with the offensive line and quarterbacks and
the receivers. The running backs was the only position group
(12:51):
that got to leave and go meet what they what
they coaches individually.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
We had to sit in individual means as wide receiver, No.
Speaker 7 (12:58):
We did, but when we like when we did blitz,
we sat in there. And so like the guys like
I had to pay attention to that because I was
in the slot, so I was the one breaking hot.
And so for me, when you play the Steelers and
you get Palamalu on the line, we used to call
a foster two blitz. You know he's gonna come inside
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of you. Don't let him cross face backside. James Harrison
is gonna drop to the flats, to the corner. It's
gonna drop to the half. The other safety is gonna
drop to the other half. Like once you saw Polamalu
at the line of scrimmage and James Harrison was standing
up and he started to back up. We kind of
knew what was coming. Things of that nature. The defensive system, yes,
but when you're talking about a corn just your one
(13:41):
on one battle, everybody's going to play you differently. A
guy gonna not gonna play me in plaques the same
way you get aggressive with plackscoa at the line of scrimmage.
If you want to, he gonna throw your ass to
the side and it's gonna be a touch. You not
gonna do that to him, but you may do it
to me or somebody else. And so you see those
things and they're not gonna play you the same way
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that they play somebody else.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
But the fact that they make adjustments. What about comps?
What if it is a guy that's built like a
game like you?
Speaker 7 (14:10):
And that's those are the games, and that's the film
that you try to focus on to see what was working.
Like when I did a lot of film study, like
an off season, I would just get I would tell
the video guy Travis Brammer with Cincinnati, Hey, I need
make me a DVD.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
You know they couldn't send ITVD. Ten might VH twelve.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
He would send me ten to twelve receivers all they targets,
and I will watch them entire offseason to see what
I could implement from their game and put it into mind.
I'm taking stuff from their game and I'm gonna put
it in my game. And so I studied the guys
that my peers to see what I can take from
their game to implement in mind. But yeah, the boxing
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game is completely different because it's that fear factor of
if I move wrong, if I do the wrong thing,
it slights.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Out, word read and react. LaVar is listening to your story, man.
That was one of the main reasons why I never
I don't think I ever leaked of anybody, because I'm saying, listen,
my legs too damn long to get out of the way,
and I'm gonna end up like you with a mouthful
of dirt. So I don't think I ever leaked over
anybody for that reason, I couldn't get my legs.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Out of the I don't even really jump.
Speaker 8 (15:29):
I jumped behindes when I was competing for a football
in the air, not trying to jump over somebody. But yeah, man,
listening to those guys, man, I think if you want
to be great at any craft that you are in
or what that you're working on, you have to be
a student of it, just like those guys were referring
to and talking about. And to understand, you know, boxing
(15:51):
is a lot different football because it's basically a reaction
sport based off of what you're looking at right in
front of you. With that being said, you know, it's
one hundred percent correct. Everybody's gonna fight an opponent different,
but uh, you gotta love what you do, and they
are students of the game, just like they were saying.
(16:12):
And I think this thing is gonna be a tremendous
fighting and hopefully LeVar can get us some tickets and
we can get down there.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah, hopefully Reck can help us get some tickets. Butler,
let's say if we could get that pretty left hook.
All right, So yeah, we're gonna switch over.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
We're gonna transition into football, back into the National Football League,
and well, the topic of conversation, Derek Carr, what it is, Well, we'll.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Let you know that.
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Speaker 5 (17:33):
Why okay, yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Come on bizarre give them that.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah, uh, welcome back into the show. It's up
on Game if you know, gotta get you some bard,
you know, whow here we go. We're rejoining you in
the up on Game Live studio.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
It's kind of not the up on Game Live studio,
but it's like it's up on Game and we're live
and it's Tyrack dot com studio.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Is what I really wanted to say to you. That's right.
It's t J.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Hitchman's I's Plexico Burs, I'm LeVar Errings and I just
get hyped up sometimes.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
Man.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
That was Shady, that was Slim, That was that was
d What is that d dB four, D twelve? Is
it D twelve?
Speaker 6 (18:19):
Yeah? You know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Anyway, speaking of performances and getting excited about those those performances. Guys. Well,
some people weren't excited about Derek Carr's performances last year,
and I guess mainly he was one of his biggest
uh critics. And here's what he had to say recently
(18:41):
about what took place last year.
Speaker 10 (18:44):
I just they just didn't get my best, you know,
and and that that drove me crazy at the end
of the year because I was I felt so spread
out in so many different ways. That's hard for you
to understand, because what's happening in my mind and in
my life, you know, but I felt so spread out,
and I was trying to do this, trying to do that,
trying to get the guys excited about a certain thing
or a certain way, even though they could see on
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my face it was tough and things like that, you know,
in certain ways, and you know, I just didn't feel
like myself and I feel bad to the coaches and
the players today. They didn't get my best.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
So I think I think Derek Carr is a fine
young man. I think he he possesses strong moral values.
He clearly exercises courage in terms of just being candid
and transparent about how he feels about certain things.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
But I don't know that this was warranted Fellas, I
don't I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
That if as good a dude as he is, and
as you know, he's got that Christian faith and strong
beliefs and that that system of just being that way
and giving testimonies and stuff like, I don't know that
he needed to do that because I'm looking at a
dumpster fire of a team in the Las Vegas Raiders
(20:03):
and listen, it's not I don't think it for anyone
say he didn't get they didn't get his best. Yeah,
I guess for me, I'm sitting there and I'm feeling
in my mind, I'm feeling in my mind for him
to respond and his his his press conference to say
those things. I mean, why why even offer that at
(20:25):
this point, like that's in the past, you know, Are
you trying to justify why you weren't good at the
end of the year?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Are you? Are you like, is there a justife? Is there?
Speaker 5 (20:34):
Is there another reason why you would take that road
and apologize again and say they didn't get my best
and start trying to explain it that way.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
And you're in a.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Different uniform, Because to me, I think that you don't
have to justify what took place in Las Vegas, because
I think we already know how dysfunctional the Raiders are
right now. I mean, you guys, get me your take
on it, but I just kind of felt like, what
what was the reasoning behind even offering this.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Number one. I believe he felt like he would be
a Raider his entire career.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
I think that's what he wanted, and so he's probably
still has an affinity for the Raiders and wanting to
be there. Obviously, Devonte Adams leaves his situation in Green
Bay and becomes a Las Vegas Raider because of Carr,
and now that situation they not even playing together now,
(21:31):
so he feels like, Devonte Adams goes out of his
way Lee's Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers to come play
with me.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
I'm not there. We didn't have a good year. I
didn't have a good year when I got hurt.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Jared Siddam comes in and throws for almost four hundred
yards and it's the number one defense in the league,
in the San Francisco forty nine ers. So I believe
it's just a little bit of disappointment in how things went.
Considering Devonte Adams did what he did to come up
play with him.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
But I believe he still wants to be a Raider.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
He always wanted to finish career, his career with the
Raiders just a little bit of disappointment.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
I mean, I'll say this, I don't believe that Derek
Carr is an elite quarterback.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
You know, just over the past.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
You know his career and you know the season some
of the seasons that he has had has been good,
but not good enough to make him a top ten
quarterback to call him elite.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
And I just can't can't.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
I just can't understand for me to me why the
Las Vegas Raiders will go out all this way to
acquire DeVante Adams and you get rid of Derek Carr
the following season because he basically gave up everything saying
that you know, he wanted to compete to win a championship.
And now though now that championship for Davante Adams and
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the Raiders are even looking even more bleak, you know,
moving forward. But if you look at Derek carr season
last year, he think he apps like two hundred and
thirty yards pass he only completed sixty percent of his
passes in the first four games that they lost, they
lost by four points, four points, three points, and two.
So you can't really just hang it all on him
offensively and say that, you know, he wasn't able to
(23:15):
get the job done, because Davante Adams still had an
all Pro season at fifteen hundred yards and I be
least twelve touchdowns, so he wasn't too bad. But I
think the Raiders moving forward, they needed to make a
change because there just wasn't something going right between Derek
Carr and Josh McDaniels and they decided to move on.
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But for him moving forward to the New Orleans Saints,
you look at the quarterbacks that were on the roster
pride to him arriving. I believe that Derek Carr would
be the better option, you know, for the Saints going
into this, going into the twenty twenty three season. But
I don't expect for him to just go down to
New Orleans and just light it up, and you know,
they start off six seven and er and you know
(23:58):
Leavar is going to be talking about the Saints are
going to win the division again when they finished dead last.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Then, but I think they will be better offensively Michael Thomas,
getting him healthy.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
See, if you can keep them around a little bit longer.
We need to get they need to get.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
Alvin Kamara back to his All Pro status, getting him
the football, you know, letting him create and make plays.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
But I think he's the best option. Yeah, I'm not busy. Yeah,
based off of what happened at the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Yeah, okay, so well well that just went to offense.
So they'll they'll just try to, you know, put a
product on the field that they can go out and
compete in that division. But I still believe that they'll
finish last in the division.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
M hmm.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
All right, well all right, so quick, just real quick
before we get to Nick on the update, who you
think has a better season New Orleans or the Raiders,
Saints or Raiders ahead.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
I'm going to say, right, I'm going to say Raiders
because of you know, just because of the defense, you know,
Max Crosby, Chanla Jones, you know, some of those guys
and offensive, but they still have the DeVante Adams. No, no,
Darren Waller, he's with the Giants. You still have a
Hunter Winfro Josh Jacobs. So I believe offensive they have
(25:20):
a better offense than the New Orleans Saints do. But
you know, I think they have a better I think
the Raiders have a better season.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
I'll say it will be the Saints and it won't
be close.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
And the reason for that is you have the LA Chargers,
Kansas City Chiefs, and the Denver Broncos, who will be
much better with Sean Pagton as their head coach in
your division. And then you look at the Saints division
with the Tampa Bay Bucks. Who's the quarterback? Oh, we
don't know, Baker Kyle Trast. You look at the Falcons
(25:51):
and Desimon Ritter, and you look at the Carolina pass Oh,
they have a rookie. And so I'm gonna say it
will be the Saints and it won't even be close.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Oh wow, All right, Well, well you have been wrong before.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
No, I'm right pretty much.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Oh man, you came on here, Lakers would beat the
Denver Nugget.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
You were wrong. I mean I was picking with my wife. Probably,
but it's okay. Probably.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Hey, Hey, I'm wrong. I'm like a bro clock. I'm
only wrong twice. It's always right twice a day. Broke
clock is right twice a day.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Twice a day. There you go.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Well, I'll tell you who isn't wrong. He gives us
our headlines. Is my man, Nick Cope? What you got
for trending?
Speaker 6 (26:31):
My guy?
Speaker 9 (26:31):
All right? Thank you, LeVar. The West Virginia basketball coach
Bob Huggins was arrested on a DOI charge last night
in Pittsburgh. He was released with a preliminary hearing said
for a later date. The university said in a statement
they're aware of the incident or in the process of
gathering more information, and we'll take appropriate action once the
review is complete. This comes after Huggins received a three
(26:54):
game suspension and a million dollar pay cut last month
for using an anti gay slur during a radio interview.
West Virginia also modified his contract to be on a
year to year basis. Third round of the US Open
underway at LA Country Club. Ricky Fowler is your leader
at ten under par. Wyndham Clark one shot back in
second place. Roy McRoy and Xander Schoffley tied for third
(27:17):
there two shots back of Fowler. Notable names that missed
the cut Max olm Of, Phil Mickelson and Jordan Speith.
The leaders will not be teeing off today until the
six pm Eastern hour. In college football, four star quarterback
Austin Simmons flipped his commitment from Florida to Ole Miss
and in the NFL, Patriots corner Jack Jones was arrested
yesterday after two firearms were found in his travel luggage
(27:40):
at Boston's Logan Airport. Let's go back to up on game.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Back to you.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Guys, appreciate you, cope.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Now let me throw this one out at you fellas,
since you all receivers, y'all good at catching things. Sakwon Barkley,
Josh Jacobs, Dalvin Cook, Ezekiel Elliott. If I were to
tell you those four names are in limbo as to
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what their career holds for them in the future, would
you find that to be believable? And then the next
thing I would ask, and I will give you a
SoundBite to bring this thing home.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
For the ones that you would find.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Valuable, like say a Christian McCaffrey or an Alvin Kamara,
they even are feeling the pressure in the strain of
the position. So before you answer this question, listen to
what Christian McCaffrey had to say about what he feels
about the current state of how running backs are being
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respected in the pay column.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
When I look at what you know receivers make and
far receivers make around the league, and then you look
at what running backs make, you know, we're at the
bottom of the list. And you know, you got backs
who at two thousand yard seasons. You've had backs who've
had seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred yards receiving,
And you know, a lot of people use the injury
(29:10):
the injury argument, but and I don't know if that's
necessarily valid when you look at some of the receivers
who have been heart who still get big contracts, and
so I understand we touch the ball the most, but
in my opinion, I think we create a lot of
value in doing so as well. So there's a lot
of arguments multiple ways, but I definitely think somewhere along
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the line the franchise tag and what the market did
to the running back position, I think they're definitely undervalued.
And I think if you ask the running backs around
the league, they would probably say the same thing.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Now that's from the Rich Eisens Show. What's your guys
take on this? I mean, is it fair to say
that the running back position is being diminished to a
very very large capacity. And what does it mean for
the future of the position? You know what it is. One,
(30:08):
it sucks for them. If you're a running back, it
does suck for them. But this is what has happened.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
You've seen running backs that are undrafted get a thousand yards.
You've seen running backs that are late round draft picks
come in and play and play extremely well and so
and it's not just here and there. It's often like
Alvin Kamara was drafted and I believe in the third round,
maybe the fourth round.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Out of Tennessee.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
You can get guys at the running back position later on.
And now with the analytics involved in footballs oh, when
a guy has x amount of carries on his body,
he starts to go downhill after so many carries. Everybody's
not a physical freak like Derrick Henry. And so when
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you're at the peak of their careers, say you a
first round draft pick. This is where they've been wrong
the running backs. If your first round draft pick day,
in essence, have you for six years because you get draft,
you have four year contract. They pick up the fifth
year option. They franchise you. After that, they gonna throw
you to the wayside. Then they've given you two hundred
(31:20):
and fifty carries probably each year. Now they just gonna
get another guy to replace you. Whereas when you look
at the receiver position, it's very rare that you can
just say, oh, we're gonna draft this guy and he
gonna come in and get it done. If you got
a good offensive line, nine times out of ten, that
running back gonna make it happen.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
And no disrespect the best of the best. They can't
be replaced.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
The Christian McCaffrey's and Kamars, the Nick Chubbs and the
Derrick Henrys and those guys, they can't be replaced. But
the second tier guys, it's been shown that they can
be replaced, and that's why they're in this position. It
sucks for them because they should be making more money
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early in their career when they're getting this big load
of offensive they're carrying offense, and I've always they get
the ball twenty five thirty times a.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Game and they make the least. That boggles my mind.
You know, listening to Kristy McCaffrey, you know, speak on this.
You know, saying that the running back position is undervalued.
It's not undervalued in the aspect of performance, it's undervalue
and pay. So there's a misconception of what he's saying
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is that the trust me, we love our running backs
because we're not running the football, then I can't get
the balls. So those things kind of go hand to hand.
But Christan McCaffrey and Sakuon Barkley, they have showed us
over the past few years how hard it is to
stay healthy at the position. And when you have a
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guy like a Christian McCaffrey, ay Coon Barkley, you draft
him with the second pick in the draft or I
think he was a second PIF and I think Dalvin
Cook was Caffrey. Of of those three, of the six
that you name, those are the only three that are
first round picks. And other than Dalvin Cook, he's been
you know, he's been healthy over his first five or
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six years. However along he's been in the league, I
think he's still a dynamic running back. But it's just
a hard position for those guys to stay healthy. At
the days of you know, Jerome playing fourteen years and
the Frank Gors those days are gone. Fifteen sixteen year
running backs that the league is it's not going to allow,
you know, guys to stay around that long. And if
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you can stay healthy that long, then you'll probably be
sitting home on the couch. But you know, it's not undervalue.
We're just seeing, like we had this conversation a few
weeks ago the ISA, but checkos who six round pick
and you know, Miles Sanders. Those guys come in and
get inserted into an offense and now this team fits
(34:06):
this guy's style, so he looks better than what another
guy was because all of the doing or doing the
scouting and there, and that player is allowed to play
their stripths to whatever that offense may be doing. But uh,
you just gotta stay healthy and it's hard to do.
It is hard to do stay healthy at the running
back position, especially with all the pounder and everything that
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they're going to be taken. And now people are already
talking about Derrick Henry, you know, too many carries or
he's going downhill and.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
You don't even get it.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
They're not even giving these guys a chance to go
out and to prove themselves going forward because they already
have this misconception. They're gonna put a narrative out there
and stay with it, and and and it's unfortunate. And
now they got to go out there and prove themselves
again and again and again, you know, just to get paid.
But I think it's unfair that he compared the wide receivers,
(34:59):
you know, gets money, and why receivers are not. It's
all about business, Wood, It's business.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
You know, the third receiver on a lot of teams
is making more than the top paid running back, which
I'm assuming is McCaffrey and Kamar they're the highest paid
running backs and Derek Henry in the league third receiver
on many teams making more than what they making.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
That's crazy.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
Oh, to get back to what you said in the
beginning with I didn't even answer the questions. All these
guys positions in limbo. They're not in limbo. It's the
business side of it that is devaluating these guys, you know,
paying how much they should be getting paid. Everybody knows
when Sa Kwan balk is a healthy man, he's one
of the best players in the world. And saying with
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Christian McCaffey and those guys Alvin Kamara, Dalvin when those
guys are healthy, man, They're the most dynamic players at
the position in the league.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
It's not their fault.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
What's been happening over the past few years with these
teams getting these backs later in the draft and a
shining it happened, and now the team say, know what, well,
I'm not gonna pay this guy fifteen million dollars a
year when I can pay a guyun six hundred and
fifty thousand.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
And you gotta hold on to it to pay these
quarterbacks too. That's Plexico burst, that's t J. Huschman Zaida.
We're gonna take a quick break. On the other side.
We're gonna wrap this thing up, put a bow on it,
tied up and send it out to you as a
president and as a gift.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
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That's of your throws. Swing grab born in the right
field of base hit coming into score, MACHOs, Crufford racing
around second, digging for third, he's in there as Bets
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huge effect in the game. He's had three hits in three.
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Speaker 6 (37:46):
All right, So.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Before we get out of here, I wanted us to
touch on something other than the you know, the running
backs or quarterbacks, which we've already discussed. Here's a receiver's tale.
OBJ has some some things to say. He talked about
his injury in the Super Bowl, talked about you know
where he's at just wondering very quickly, is this a
(38:08):
do or dies? It's a must have success season for OBJ.
But here's what he had to say before I get
y'all's take.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
It sucks. There's no ay around it.
Speaker 12 (38:20):
It's literally you know you've dreamed of you know, I've
watched plenty of Super Bowls and finally it was, you know,
my opportunity.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
And I was so locked in.
Speaker 12 (38:29):
I remember my mom and my people were like, I've
never seen you, you know, like that before a game,
and I just I could just feel it that day
when I woke up, I knew that I was probably
gonna be the best person.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
On the field. I had been feeling it all week.
And it just sucks.
Speaker 12 (38:41):
You know, I didn't get to live out that moment.
It's not for the Instagram posts or nothing like that,
Like this is really something I've dedicated my entire life
to this game and this sport and just wanted to
have that moment. But you know, God had already came
to me and he said, if I win the next
time showfully this year, you get an opportunity. He said,
I know this shit was better, but we'll make sure
that it's probably the best juice you ever taste, And
(39:03):
that's probably in my mind. That's just how I keep
the perspective is that hopefully I'll get another opportunity to
do that. And you know, life happens to you, so
you just got to keep rolling with the flow of
it and we live and we learn.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
All Right, we got two minutes left. But is this
a make or break season for OBJ if he wants to.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Be considered one of the top players and make the
type of money that he wants to make. Absolutely, he
didn't play last year, and he's had so many injuries
in previous years. If he doesn't play well or if
he gets hurt, yeah, this will be a rap. I
(39:41):
mean it's already a rap as him being one of
the top receivers in the league. These young guys is coming.
He won't get back to that. But as far as
being paid and his name just being brought up along
with the best receivers, that's that will no longer be
the case.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Super quick pleas.
Speaker 8 (39:57):
I just think for him moving forward, men, it's all
about his health. When he's healthy, he's one of the
best players in the world. Maybe not to you know,
the point, can he stay healthy? Can he stay healthy?
And you then to remain consistent throughout sixteen weeks. And
if he does that, I think he'll play well enough
to convince another team to give him another contract.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
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Speaker 6 (40:22):
That's t J.
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Huchman, Zada's Plex, Cooe Burs, I'm LeVar Arrington. Jkas is
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