Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam Talk Deebo Trade, Stafford's New Contract & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:04):
We're human beings, so we're wrong a lot. That's just
kind of the way it works. And one thing I
know is this, the sooner you can make it right,
the better. In other words, just because you can try
to right or wrong doesn't mean you'll do it. But
waiting even longer, that's a no. I'll tell you which
NFL team we're talking about here in just a second.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Good evening.

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Speaker 4 (00:43):
What's happening?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
How are we doing? Brother?

Speaker 5 (00:46):
I'm tired? But I'm ok. Why are you tired? Oh man?
So I just uh, I just drove into town in
Vegas this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'll say enough. That's that's that. There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Not for the reasons someone my age or an adult
would normally go to Vegas. Okay, that would be a
different type of tired. And I haven't been that type
of Vegas tired. And I don't know a decade. I
guess sure it is too much grown. You're grown a man.

(01:25):
I understand that.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Now it's ten thirty.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
I'm like, guys, no, but this this weekend was the
national maid hoops AAU Championship weekend. Ah and so my tenure,
uh so my son who's on the Paul Georgia Leite

(01:49):
TENU team. We played this weekend didn't go the way
we wanted it to go. But I'm proud of those kids.
Our coach and our point guard couldn't make it because
they were at a soccer tournament. And I was like, okay,

(02:09):
that's hey, hey coach, okay, hey, this is the maid
hoops AAU National Championship weekend in Las Vegas and you're
at a in nor Cow at a soccer bonanza.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well maybe it was the soccer champions No one cares,
well he does, obviously.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
No, I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
We need to have a conversation and I have, you know,
I we were on a text chain with the parents
and all of that, and I let it be known.
I'm not the coach of this team, but I was
this weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
You were. I could hear it in your voice. Your
voice sounds like you've been to Vegas, but again.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Oh it's gone, It's gone.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, yeah, okay, screaming.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Unpacked gyms, just like five six courts, all games going
at the same time. So in order to get your
your instructions to the nine and ten year olds who
some may be overwhelmed because it's a it's a big
tournament for them. And and so I've exhausted myself filling

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in as a coach. And the month of Ramadan started
on Saturday, so I've yet to have anything to eat
or drink since since for forty five this.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Morning, I remember we did this show last yes, and
it went the same way. And I sit here and
I marvel at you because you're a former offensive lineman.
I'm I'm just a dude. I'm just a six foot two,
five pound dude. And the idea of going six straight hours.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Without food it's terrifying to me. Let alone, what'd you say,
four forty five in the morning.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
For forty five, it'll be a thirteen hour day. I
break fast at five forty five. Okay, So if we're
on the air and you hear me just going, yeah,
I'm drinking water, like I just was saved from the
Sahara Desert.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I'm gonna text to Sega right now. He's gonna do
the five forty five.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
With me, and you're gonna go.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
You're gonna go right across the street there the whole foods.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Okay, what'd you bring? What'd you bring to eat? That'll
make fast?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Eventually? I have a tea, then I'll go warm up.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Okay, I have some some dates and I have some
food and some water. You know, nothing too much. It's
it's you know, look, I've been fast and said I've
been fast and for what forty two years? Since I
was six years old.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Man, Yeah, I mean, ain't got like a bird girl something.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Nah. It's like, see what happens is when you're fasting,
everything looks good. You want to eat everything, but you
can't eat everything because that's a good way to get
yourself sick. Well as in point, Saturday night, the first
evening of Ramadan, I coached all day. We go to

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the little the restaurant at the hotel we were staying,
shout out to resorts, well the beauty, beauty, beautiful property.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
And we're sitting down and I'm looking at the menu
and I'm like, oh my god, all of this looks amazing.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
So I do something I shouldn't have done. There was
a pastramimi steak a steak burger. It was a Swiss
pastrami steak burger, and I was with steak fries and
I was like, oh my god, and I looked. I said, Nope,

(06:05):
I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna pass by that.
I'm gonna just move on. I'm not doing it. I'm
going somewhere else. And so I'm looking, I'm perusing the
menu and I had I was like, oh, I'm gonna
get like the the roasted chicken and the mashed tailors
and the broccoli, nice healthy, full meal. Then the waitress
comes over. She takes everybody's order, and I'm like, I'll

(06:26):
take the yearsteak.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah please. You're like, you're like I opened my mouth
and it just the words just came out.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Man, I tell you what I was not.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
My stomach was not ready for that level of meat pauls.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
At that time.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
So it was like, Okay, well you made a mistake,
so now you have to deal with So you have
to be very cautious. I say that to say you
have to be very cautious when you break your father,
especially when you get further into Ramadan. Now's for thirty
days right after today. I got twenty eight more days
to go. But your stomach shrinks and your body changes

(07:08):
during that month of Ramadan, So you can't just go.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I won't get the ribs. I'm gonna get to do whatever.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
You gotta be cautious, eat something small first, and then
maybe have but you gotta have greens, gotta have vegetables,
fruits and stuff like that, because you need those nutritions,
no new nutrients.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I'm glad you just said what you said, because you
lead perfectly into where we wanted to start. Because you
said you made a mistake. You made a mistake with
the pistrami, with the things and the burger and all
the things, and you immediately did everything you could to
fix the mistake. There's nothing you can You cannot regurgitate
the pistrami.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
No, but oh it's coming out.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
You cannot regurgitate it. And so and so you got.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
You immediately tried to do whatever you could to fix
the wrong, even though the wrong stands. And I now
give you the San Francisco forty nine ers and the
off season of twenty twenty four and the way they
handled their wide receivers. They done messed up. They've done

(08:14):
messed up in every single possible way that they could.
They spent If you remember the way that the draft
lead up went last year, right around this time last year,
the rumor started, ooh, the Niners in Ayuk are not
on the same page.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
They might trade him.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
And then remember when we got closer to the draft
than it was, actually they might trade either one of them.
Maybe it'll be Ayuk, maybe it'll be Debo. And then
they didn't. They held on to both, and the off
season unfolded, and that off season encompassed both a restructure

(08:57):
of Deebo Samuel's contract and when he arrived at Camp
y oh, we got stories on the daily of how
he's never been in better shape than he looks like
he's primed for a career year because he wants to
shake off the way things ended the year before.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
But not Brandon Aiyuk.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
That thing just got nastier and nastier and nastier all
the way until it was right up to the start
of the season, and then he showed up ready to
go with a brand spanking new way too big contract,
so that on opening night on Monday Night Football, in
front of his home fans, he.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Could drop a touchdown. I was there, and the crowd
was not happy.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
And more more of that ensued for about four or
five weeks before, unfortunately for Brandon than his leg exploded
and he missed the rest of the year. So here
sit the forty nine Ers with thirty million a year
going to Brandon who probably won't be ready for the
start of the season, and a restructured Deebo Samuel who

(10:05):
underperformed at a high level last year, and air Quotes
requested a trade notice. The forty nine Ers took about
two seconds to be like, sure, no problem, no problem,
which means that they requested a trade to and yesterday
it goes down fifth round pick Washington Commanders. The forty
nine Ers had one of the highest price receiving rooms

(10:28):
in football. Remember they also used a first rounder in
that draft last year on another receiver. And so in
the end, I look at the whole thing, my man,
and I'm just like, you should have done it. You
should have pulled the trigger back when you had all
the jews to do it last offseason. But you didn't
you held on in the hopes of another Super Bowl

(10:50):
appearance and instead you went six and eleven and now
the whole thing is blown up and you're selling things
for pennies on the dollar.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Yeah, they and we talked about this length last offseason,
past offseason, about what they should do, and we both
I think we're in the agreements that they should have
traded Brandon aut I don't think they should have paid
him that money because to me, yes, he is a

(11:18):
dynamic player, but he really wasn't the needle mover to
garner that level of pay, especially knowing one of the
you know, leaders in the backbones of that team was
Debo and you you know, something had to give. You
couldn't keep both, and so look, they chose Brandon. It

(11:42):
didn't work out for him, unfortunately he got hurt as
well as going into the all during the offseason and
going into the training camp and then the regular season.
We both were looking at San Francisco like, not quite
sure if everybody's locked in, based on the Trent Williams situation,

(12:06):
Brandon Nayuk, Christian McCaffrey, it just didn't feel like the
energy coming out of San Francisco in training camp and
all off season was we're going to win it this time.
And lo and behold, they don't make the playoffs. They
got a big ticket that they have to cash or

(12:30):
or or write a check they have to write with
Brock Party. Either way, say what you want, you know,
the naysayers or whoever it is, they can say whatever
they want.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
They're going to pay them. They have to pay them.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
And so now your team, your dynamic of your team
is going to be different. Like you said, Brandon Nyue
may not be available at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
So what do they do downfill is pearsol?

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Is he going to be ready to take a huge
step forward in his second season after being shot in
the off season. That was another thing that happened in
the off season in the receiver room.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Someone got shot.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Unbelievable, unbelievable year in that room. The only thing that
went well, quite frankly, was Juwan Jennings stepping forward and
essentially having almost he's a few yards short of a thousand.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Years play well, play well. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
It's it's crazy because you when we talk about paying quarterbacks,
you also have to remember they have to have somebody
to throw to.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
It's difficult. I don't care how great you are.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
It's difficult to just throw to nobody's or to not
have someone who can get separation and and and get
open so on and so forth.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
And you look at.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
That that that roster, in the age of that roster
outside of a young party, it's like, oof, is is
it getting?

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Let me ask you this question.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Go ahead and you can answer after the break, sure,
based on their current roster and the things we know
they're going to do shortly, will they be better or worse?

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Then?

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Not this past year, the year prior, well, that's nope,
this past year, let's do it. Then this past year,
will they be better or worse?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I will answer that coming up.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I absolutely will and would love your answer on the
new look Washington Commanders, who just gave our favorite young
quarterback another weapon. So we're going to get into all
of that as the evening on folds and glad you're
with us. With you from Salam Who's hungry, But we're
getting there. I'm Mark Willard and his Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (15:41):
You go there next hour, you.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Probably get a good look at eat from Salaam eating
dates and nuts.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm just saying it's on the docket.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Okay, ask your question again about the forty nine.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Ers based on their current roster.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Okay, currents which obviously has a lot of work to come.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Free agency in the draft still ahead, but go ahead.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Do you think they'll be better or worse than they
were last year?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Well, my initial response is to say better, but for
multiple reasons. One, I think the forty nine ers got
a healthy dose of here's what you need to change
with their roster. They need to get younger. They even
said so that at the combine. But I'm gonna cheat

(16:34):
a little bit. The number one reason they're going to
be better is because they're playing a fourth place schedule
next year.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
And I don't know if you've looked.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Ahead at their opponents, Nobody good, like almost nobody good
is on their entire schedule next year, So I don't
know if that's how you mean it, but their record
is going to be a lot better than six and
eleven next year.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
So you believe that based on.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
You know, poor record, easier record, they're going to be
better than six wins.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Well, that is a big reason. I think that last
year was marred by all kinds of different things, starting
with everybody's head just being in the wrong place based
on a near miss in the Super Bowl, followed by
a bunch of players focusing on the finances, Brandon Aiyuk

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taking the team and the team going with him on
just a bad ViBe's journey for the entire offseason. You
mentioned Ricky Piersoll gets shot, Major injuries start taking place
right away, Christian McCaffrey surprisingly knocked out of Game one
of the season, literally we find out hours before the
season starts and didn't show up until the second half

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of the season.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
The whole thing was just weird. It's just a weird,
weird role.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
So you're considering this a full reset for them in
terms of getting back to the team that we had
been seeing the last five years.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, I think that they'll still even though they're rebooting
a lot, they're going to get like they're going to
get an infusion of youth, but this they're going to
have a lot of good veteran players. So yeah, combine
that with the schedule things that are very unlikely to
happen again. Yeah, I think that's gonna be a better

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football team next year. Do you not agree?

Speaker 4 (18:53):
I would hope so.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
But I also know what happens when you have one
of those down years and then you're like, oh, okay,
that was all right.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
We needed that.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
We're going to get back to what we were, and
it can take a couple of years.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
To do that.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
And I asked that because you know, looking at their schedules,
the Rams are going to be the Rams against them.
Chicago will be better. Arizona's a tough one, right. You
look at going to New Orleans, Houston, depending on what

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Cleveland decides to do with Miles Garrett. It's you know
it in theory, looking at it. It's like, yes, they should,
they should just dog walk this schedule.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Well I don't, Yeah, I know what you're saying, and
I don't look at it that way because there's so
much that we don't know at this moment.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
But like if I.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Said to you, like they will played their schedule, let
me let me throw some of these at you. Uh, Buffalo, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati,
Kansas City, the Chargers, Den Philadelphia, Washington, Detroit, Minnesota, Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Guess what they all have in common and not playing
the forty nine.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Ers, don't you.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I just named all the good team.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Yeah, that's good. That's good.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Like I'm you Houston, Houston and your division games. Yeah,
that's it, and that's who they're playing.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
And that's it for the sanctity of our guy Brock party.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Better play well, better play. He's gonna he's gonna have
cupcakes in front of him and a whole lot of
cash behind.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
This could go real bad, real fast.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yep, Yep, he's gonna have to play some ball.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
So well, we'll see, uh how that plays out. You
know over under what ten ten games?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
It's early to play that. But I would in this moment,
I would say over it's a double digit win team.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Let's put it that it's at least ten.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
That would be its tea.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Yeah, all right, I'll take that. But you know what
else is over this conversation? Yeah, exactly, because it's time
for the one and only, the Man, the myth, the legend, Steve.
It's time, good evening.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
Wow, that seemed a little bit harsh. I was not
actually waving a red flag or anything.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Oh no, no, no he was, he was.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
But you can watch his piercing eyes through the glass
of the booth.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Lets me know, be quiet eyes.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Time serves.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Is time for the Maestro.

Speaker 7 (22:03):
Move on to the NBA scoreboard, shall we? With nine games.
We'll get to the daytime stuff later, but currently we
have an overtime game with the Knicks now leading by
two at Miami, minute and a half left in the
OT one eleven, one oh nine, New York ahead bam Adebayo,
who has thirty points for the Heat thirty points for
New York's Jalen Brunson. The Raptors have a record of
eighteen and forty two, but they've gone ahead one hundred

(22:26):
to eighty five at Orlando with about five minutes left
at San Antonio. The Spurs are tied with Oklahoma City
early third quarter eighty one eighty one, despite twenty five
points already from Shay Gilgis Alexander thunder with a record
of forty eight and eleven. Cleveland is now fifty to ten.
They've won ten straight after today's overtime win against Portland

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one thirty three to one, twenty nine Indiana Beach Chicago
Boston over Denver, and we've got two late games at
nine thirty Eastern time. Phoenix hosts Minnesota. Good news for
the visitors. Anthony Edwards was questionable with the sort He's
listed as available now. Edwards was fine thirty five thousand
for his behavior after being kicked out Thursday. The Lakers

(23:08):
are hosting the Clippers again. Lakers have won five straight.
Austin Reeves is out tonight due to a strained calf.
Jimmy Butler of Golden State is probable for Monday after
missing Saturday's loss due to backspasms. Men's college basketball just
a week left in the regular season. After today, Number
eight Michigan State beat Wisconsin seventy one sixty two, while
fifteenth ranked Michigan lost at home to Illinois ninety three

(23:31):
to seventy three. That means Michigan is now one game
behind first place Michigan State in the Big Ten standings,
and Michigan's at Michigan State next Sunday to end the
regular season. Eighteenth ranked Memphis now fourteen and two in
the American Conference after winning at UAB eighty eight eighty one.
Among the women's basketball games, Ole Miss was a winner

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at number seven ranked LSU eighty five to seventy seven.
Currently in the final seconds Top twenty matchup as TCU
holding on fifty one forty eight at Baylor. By the way,
number one ranked Texas won its game easily seventy two
to forty six over Florida, their ranked number one in
the country, they will not be the one seed for

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the SEC Tournament. South Carolina gets it after a coin
flip today because they finished tied in the conference standings
and they had split the season series six NHL games,
including a Toronto overtime win at Pittsburgh six to five.
The Jets are expected to cut wide receiver DeVante Adams
if they can't trade him. His cap number is thirty

(24:34):
eight million dollars. The salary is not guaranteed. Christopher Bell
won the NASCAR race at Austin, Texas on the road
course he won last week at Atlanta as well. Indy
Car's season opener went to Alex Below on the streets
of Saint Petersburg, Florida. Scott Dixon was second in this race.
Turns out due to a malfunction, the guy had no

(24:55):
radio communication the entire race and finished second. And this
programming note that was on Fox TV today. All seventeen
IndyCar races this season are now on Fox TV, including
the Indy five hundred in late May. IndyCar season will
go through August. NASCAR was on Fox TV today kind

(25:15):
of a double header to kicks things off, but NASCAR
will be on FS one starting next weekend for six
straight Sundays.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Back to you, Okay, hey, Steve, not to put you
on the spot, but e from two since I know
if from you are San Diego State.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
College basketball head.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yes, and Steve obviously keeps up on everything better than
anyone I've ever known. It's March second, so what would
be both of your like sixty second primers for people
who have been completely in the weeds since the holidays
started and have not yet watched one college basketball game,

(25:52):
but boy, they love it when the printers start splitting
out those brackets in a couple of.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Weeks, like what would you say? What are we spoke
to tell everybody what they should know?

Speaker 7 (26:00):
Yeah, very easily is that Auburn easily has the best
resume of anybody in the country. This year they're ranked
number one. But if you're looking for future NBA talent,
and that doesn't happen for March Madness as much in
recent years, Cooper Flag is on Duke and their ranked
number two.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
And I will tell you this, there isn't There are
some rumblings that Cooper Flag may stay another year.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Hey not stand the money is too good in college.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Now the money is even better in the It's not.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
It's not so.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Look, there's more at play here, right because the shoes
and every I don't want to misspeak and I don't
want to put too much out there, but these X
shoe contracts, right, it may or not be up next year,
right when niow money starts rolling in their certain obligations.

(26:54):
Now he's making about six million for this year. That
could go up, and plus staying in college can allow
him to be a free agent in the shoe department
if he stays another year. Just gonna throw that out there,
I got you. So we know that his rookie contract

(27:19):
is going to pale in comparison to what that is,
because that's just how it goes with the with the
rookie scale and and all that. Now, so I'm just
gonna throw that out there. There is more money to
be made in the short term playing another year at Duke.
Just gonna put that there, Okay, Okay, I like now,

(27:43):
guys gonna fly into the NBA anymore.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I know. I'll wager on it, all right, got what?

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yeah, let's say one dollar.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Or like your first post Ramadan mil.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Okay, all right, all right, I take that. Hi, I
take that.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I take that, although we probably won't know that yet
to me.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Six Yeah, twenty twenty six post Ramadan meal is on
is on the loser. I'll take Cooper flag on the
Charlotte Hart. It's for a hundred dollars.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
By the way, I heard your discussion of the meal
and segment one of this show. Just for a second,
I thought you said there was pork on the menu
and you said pastrami. I said, well, whoa what do you?
What's Ramadan?

Speaker 4 (28:31):
And you could have a porkng come one insulting thank you?

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Oh yeah, I thought what I heard was not what
I okay, not what he said.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Astray Pastramadan? Yes, what happened the other day? What happened?

Speaker 4 (28:47):
I'll tell you this. I want to say this.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
I't want to give a shout out to somebody like
I coach all over the place, but I really love
coaching my ten year old and our rec league team
over where. We we go up there for three years,
we're pretty outstanding. I think we've lost three games in
three years. I don't know, something like that. Nine ten
minors and good friend of mine I didn't get a

(29:12):
chance to draft his son, and we've played them this
year already. We beat them by thirty something points. And
the coach that coaches his son couldn't make it, and
they asked him to fill in.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
All right, his name Eddie Gordon. And he showed up.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
To the game in a suit in like a sports
coach and a tie like Jim Velbano.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Like pat Riley in the eighties, Jim.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
Like literally NC State right shook up the world like
he's he showed up.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
I'm gonna send you a picture. You're gonna die all man.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
He was all business, and I want to give him
a shout out because we had been beaten teams by
an average of twenty five points.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
I don't know. I think one team came within fourteen.
This year.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
We were five and zero and were going to the
game and they beat us. They had our number. He
did an excellent job coaching, and he ran around that
gym like Jim Valvano did when they won, and like
literally now, to us, he looked like a fool and

(30:26):
an idiot. But he's also a comedian, so he anything
for the bit. So I want to shout out to
the principle of comedy Eddie Gordon, for giving me my
first l this year in our miners wreck team game.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Like he he.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Deserves this shot out because that'll never happen again.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Okay, Okay, I'm imagining like the sports colt this picture right,
yeah please is flaring out in multiple directions as he
runs around looking for somebody to hug, just like Valvado. Okay,
send me the picture.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Control.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
We're in the tire Reight dot Com studios and coming
up next, we've kind of massaged this on the Niner side.
I do want to hear your take on the commander
side and the acquisition of Deebo Samuel with e from Salama,
Mark Whellard, this is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
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Speaker 3 (31:33):
Hey, before I ask you about Debo and Washington, because
we're running out of time.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
This is a time sensitive question. I'm I'm waiting. Are
you planning on the Lakers winning tonight of the Clippers?

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:49):
But but but it don't be a fan. Don't be
a fan. Austin Reeves is not playing quiet Letard is okay?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Talk to me.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Austin Reeves didn't play the last game. Neither did Rory
and Kawhi play. Just fy No, I.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Know, well Austin did play. He got knocked out?

Speaker 4 (32:09):
When did he When did he leave early? Okay? So
let's just I'm real.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I'm asking you because I want the answer to be yes.
I just want you.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
To actually think about Eves is a number three. Teams
should be able to win if their number three is missing.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
I know, but their number one or one A is
forty years old and sometimes he gets.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Tired and killing. Has he been tired. Since you have
you seen amazing? Okay, so let's not he's been amazed.
Let's not just throw that out there.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I know. But when I watched that NBA injury report,
questionable all day questionable.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
That's always questionable. I know it is always questionable.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I'm checking with you to know what's going on.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
I'm letting you know. I'm not saying it with my justice.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
That's all I wanted to know, because I trust you.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I trust you, and even though you haven't had anything
to eat and so you might.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Be late, I just broke my fanst though. That's why
my voice sounds a little better. I had a little
hold on, hold on, let me, let me, let me
get some water, hold on.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
It, okay, get it, sip it up. Yeah, oh that
was yeah, that was something else you did with.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Your what you what?

Speaker 2 (33:21):
You just eat? What you just eat?

Speaker 5 (33:23):
I just date just had a little date and had
to water the date. Yeah, you know you had a date.
It was date night, uh for for eat from school?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Okay? All right, all right, good, that's all I wanted
to know.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah, man, I can't wait, and we're gonna be able
to watch it together.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
We're gonna watch it we're gonna watch it. You can
watch that one.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
I'm gonna watch the Wolves and the Suns, and we'll
keep everybody all all up to date.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Oh you can't watch both, my fat No, I watched it.
I watched that one too.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean no, I could do the
you know, yeah, one of them is on national TV
and one of them is not.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
So I mean I watched all the games. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, I know I could league past me.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
I'm in the sports sports, uh commentating business, so I
you know, I try to watch all of the games
so I can hear you, so I can be about
my business.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I hear you. I hear you.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
The Thunder and the Spurs are fighting it. They are
right pass, okay, a little feisty. Speaking of feisty, let's
get back to debo. How do you think he looks
in Washington?

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Oh goodness, gracious right. You want to talk about unlocking
a cheat code.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Let's go. Let's talk about.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
Washington just unlocked the cheat code. The one thing that.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
They needed was an air of toughness to go with
sensational budding superstar. They needed somebody to bring a little
edge into that that that that huddle and they have

(35:02):
that guy with dee Bo, and you know dee Bo
is gonna show out. He's going to show out because
it means something to him. Him in his little pretty
outfits he'd be wearing to the game if it means
something to him to show out.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
And so.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Just when I saw that happen, I said, oh lord,
I said, this is about to be a problem for
the NFC. Yep, oh we they You do realize they
went to the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
I saw that this past season.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yes, and they yes, they're they're Their offense was already
a problem.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
The only thing that I can think of.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
A fifth round draft pick, fifth round draft pick. That's
it's it's a steal.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Although I'd also say again, in the situation the Niners
were in, they messed up, but within that they got
out of it as quickly as they could. And that's
as that's as.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Good as they could do in this situation, because they
were they were going to cut him if they didn't,
if they didn't do this right, they were going to
end up cutting him and get nothing for him. So
but yes, the only thing I can think of that
would be any sort and concerns not the right word,
because this is just one of those quirky things. But

(36:28):
Jade and daniels rookie season was so good.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
It can't he can't duplicate it right, and it's definitely right.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Like this is in the dictionary next to the setup
for sophomore slump because and I don't even mean a slump,
I just mean the expectations of Jade Daniels coming back
for a year or two player.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Have never been higher. And I don't know how he
can meet him. I don't even know if it's possible.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
It was literally like how great CJ. Strout was, and
look he was poised to do it again. They went
out and got pieces to have him better. All the
pieces got hurt, Yeah, all the pieces got hurt, left

(37:19):
him on an island. Offensive line play was horrific. I
don't think Washington is doing I think Washington number one.
They went out and got Deebo. They're going to do
more this offseason, this draft. And I think Jason Daniels
he's a little bit more dynamic than c. J.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Strout for sure, And so.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
You it's very difficult to like everybody was calling them
Lamar Jackson light right, and because he has that love
of oh.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
God, what is he going to do? Or we have
to take that away?

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Or oh no, we even if we took that away,
he like he can do all things.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Now.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
There is a whole year seventeen eighteen nineteen games of footage.
Defensive coordinators specialize YEP, and breaking down and studying footage.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
To eradicate.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Your abilities to have another year like you did the
year before. For a young player, that's just how it goes.
And so it'll be interesting to see what they try
to take away from him and how he combats that
going into next year.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
That's the biggest test. That's the biggest.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Test, YEP.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
And there's always something and right, look, I think he's uh,
I think he's phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
But like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
It's good that you're getting a unique Swiss army knife
player like Deebo Samuel because he's probably gonna need him
because that little like just think about it, that little
like let's do a shotgun. It's fourth and two. We're
gonna be like the Lions. We're gonna go for it
every time. And that little like shotgun snap, throw it

(39:23):
over the middle of zach Ertz for three yards right
like they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Be ready this time. They're going to be ready this time.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
And when you get that much attention this quick, it's
just really really hard to repeat it. But on paperman,
I'm with you, they look absolutely terrifying right now and
completely stacked, all right. Mark willard E from Salaam, Glad
you're with us. Coming up next, Lebron James takes a

(39:51):
shot at the media when asked about the future face
of the league.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
We'll get into that next.

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Speaker 3 (40:19):
Yeah, I really, especially since he came up just about
ten minutes ago and you're such a Lakers inside her. Mmm,
how did and we'll play this for everybody here in
just a moment, how did it grab you?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
What Lebron James said, when the whole.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Face of the league debate or conversation, how whatever you
want to call it, Whenever that came up and It
started at All Star weekend when Anthony Edwards was asked
if he felt he might be a candidate for future
face of the league, and he kind of was like, nah,
I'm good, Well go ahead and give that and uh,

(41:02):
and so things circled in the direction of Lebron for
a reaction to Anthony saying no, thanks, don't need it.
Both of these players, by the way, tipping off in
a half hour in separate games. But take a listen
to where the conversation went when Lebron was asked about it.

Speaker 8 (41:22):
I mean, it's unfortunate, but like, I don't know, when
why do you want to be the face of a
league when all the all to put all the people
that you know that cover our game and talk about
our game or the day to day based on everybody
have that responsibility. That's it's just weird. It's weird energy
from the people that.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
You know.

Speaker 8 (41:43):
I don't know, but changing he said it, he said
it perfectly, couldn't say it no better. But ant said
he don't want it.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I didn't.

Speaker 8 (41:49):
I mean, obviously I didn't ask for it, but I
knew there's a responsibility for me, not only to my family,
my friends, my community, and and whoever I was gonna
follow my my my journey throughout my career, not only
in Ohio when I started there, but all all over
America and all over the world when I traveled all

(42:10):
over the world. So I've always taken that seriously and
understand and understood from the beginning what what being a
professional was all about and being a role model was
all about. So try to hold that with the utmost
uh respect and honor.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
And but.

Speaker 8 (42:29):
I feel I understand, I completely understand.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
This is weird energy when it comes to that. How
does that grab you? Man?

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Boo hoo, this whole weird energy, And why would you
want it? If it all they're gonna do is uh,
you know, talk about you welcome to professional sports. Welcome
to professional sports. He agrees with Channing because he hates
the argument that he has to have about him uh

(43:00):
and being compared to Jordan, So of course he's gonna
jump on that side, right because you know, he believes
he's the best to ever play. Of course, there's an
argument for it. People are gonna like Jordan, people are
gonna like Lebron. It is what it is. It's part
of sport. That's what comes with it now. In terms

(43:20):
of being the face of the league, guys don't want
that responsibility because you gotta walk a tight ship, right,
You have to adhere to things that a lot of
guys don't want to adhere to, and a lot of
sacrifices that guys don't want to make. Being the face
of a league is different than being the face of

(43:41):
the franchise, right. You can be the face of the
franchise and not be the face of the league.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
But when.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
In the NBA is broadcast around the world, you're the
face that we saw Michael Jordan embrace it in the
ninety two Barcelona Olympics walking down the street and he
just was him on the side of the biggest building
and at the Olympics at the time. That's being the

(44:10):
face of the league. And so Lebron James has been
the face of the league. He's currently still him and
Steph there's a responsibility there. They've handled it well. So
don't boohoo about it now. You've already done it for

(44:30):
two decades or I'll give you being the face of
the league for fifteen years. So the younger generation, because
you're still where you are and still doing what you're doing.
Is there a space for Edwards to take over? Is

(44:52):
there a space for you know, Jalen Brown, are Luca
or for someone to take over being the face of
the league when you're forty and you're averaging twenty eight still.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Right, Like, there's a difference.

Speaker 5 (45:19):
When Kobe was gone and the Duncans were gone, and
you know, all the Shacks and all of those people
were gone. Lebron was there, right, Lebron kd Steph Curry
shot to prominence. These are the flag holders of the

(45:41):
NBA as they should be now the next generation. I'm
sure the NBA will love the face of the league
to be an American born athlete at least, but it
doesn't have to be like that. The NBA wants to
go global. Is global, their TV rights deal is global.

(46:03):
And so if the face of the league happens to
be Nikola Jokic, are Luka Doncic, are Shay Guildris like,
they don't necessarily it doesn't resonate because they're not from here.
And it's never been the face of an American brand

(46:28):
being foreign And I get that, but to say, guys
don't want it because the people who's supposed to be
loving us and showering us with nothing but praise. They
gonna talk bad about you. Oh please, man, come on
with that now, that that one right there. I wasn't
feeling that take because you know what comes with it.

(46:50):
You know what comes with what you know the level
of scrutiny that comes with.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
With that, and so.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
To boohoo it and to say that's why guys don't
want to do it is because people are mean to us,
are mean to you.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Oh you're making sixty five million dollars a year and
Charles Barkley says you're soft, so you don't want to
be the face of the league. What is happening right now?
That's woman. That's my take. What about you?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
That's a good take.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I have so many questions and so many things I
want to pick apart with this statement.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I can't even believe it.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
I can't believe that I'm sitting here hearing this come
from Lebron James. First of all, do we actually buy
the premise?

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Do you? I don't do we buy the premise that
all listen to what he said. All anybody in the
media does is bleep on us. That's it.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
It's like, dude, you got to be kidding me. You've
got to be kidding me. Are you telling me that
Lebron I wish he had a middle name. Maybe he does,
I don't know it, but this is one of those
where it's like, you know where mom or dad was like, Lebron, blank, James,
get your butt in this room. Do you really not

(48:26):
get enough love? Is that what I'm hearing you say that? Bananas?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
By the way, thank you for bringing up the second piece,
which is that he is the co face of the
league with another person who. By the way, I don't
think I've.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Ever heard any human being in the world say a
bad thing about ever. Have you ever heard someone quote
bleep on Steph Curry?

Speaker 4 (48:55):
No? Has this ever happened too much?

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah? What is your I can't believe this stuff so kind?

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Yes, with the mouthpiece and the chewing, I can't stand
it anymore. Like Lebron, your co face of the league
has never been.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Criticized for anything anything. Yet you're yet you're gonna sit
here and say that that all anybody does is bleep
on the faces of the league. How about one more thing?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Did you hear him in this quote say I didn't
ask for it.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Yeah, the cover of did you did you of that?
Sports Illustrated The Chosen One.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I believe you nicknamed yourself the Chosen One, King James.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
You didn't ask for this Uni figure out of here? Man,
that's that.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
Woe is me? Oh boy, no, man, just embrace it.
It is what.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
It takes a special talent and a special player to
become the face of the league, because the face of
the league is responsible for ushering the league forward. That's
a lot of responsibility, ushering the league forward. Everybody don't

(50:34):
want to sign up for that.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Well, and the two of them, and there will be
a documentary or many about this someday. You pointed to it,
the two of them, and I hope he's listening because
I'm about to not bleep on him.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
The two of them have done.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
An unbelievably epic job.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
I mean, they've never got they've never gotten into trouble.
You have two people who will literally the worst thing
that either of them have done.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
One of them, once upon a time, held a TV
show to announce that he was going to a different franchise.
By the way, a million dollars was made for the
Boys and Girls Club in the process, and everybody hated it.
That's the worst thing we got on either of them.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Hate the kids. People hate to So so.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
I'm like, please please stop with everybody bleeps on us,
because I've never heard Steph Curry. In fact, take it
as a sports radio person in the Bay Area, he's
almost difficult to talk about because there's nothing to say.
There's nothing to say. He's the greatest thing we've ever seen.
He's the most fun thing we've ever seen. He's the

(51:42):
nicest guy we've ever seen. He's mister perfect. It was
like for a day two weeks ago, people are like, hey,
he's not going to be in the three point contest.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
I don't know what to do with this. Should should
we criticize him?

Speaker 3 (51:59):
And instead of being a three point contests, he's like
in the East Bay working with kids. So like the
whole premise of this conversation, and you know me, neither
one of us sitting here tonight, we don't have an
ounce of Lebron James hatred in our hearts.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
No, no, the guy.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
The guy is absolutely unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Like him.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
But I but listening to this, I was like, dude,
are you just having a bad day. There's no way
that can actually be your perspective on this There's no
way that your life.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
As as as as epic as it is, there's no
way that that can be your perspective on this life
that you're living.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
I can't even my mind is blown by that quote.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Yeah it you know.

Speaker 5 (52:55):
Look, man, you get in your feelings, you feel like
you know.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
The fact that.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
Here it is, the fact that he's not universally known
as the best player to ever play bothers him. It
bothers him beyond doubt. He doesn't even have fifty he had, No,

(53:27):
he doesn't. He's not in the majority when it comes
to that. And so, like I said, of course he
was on Channing's fright time ontside when he waxed poetic
about we're comparing our young stars to someone who played
forty years ago. Like no one can, No one can

(53:48):
get out of the shadow of a guy who played
forty years ago. Yeah, that guy today would be clearly
the best player in the NBA today. That guy had

(54:10):
a way about him that was unmatched by any other
offensively and defensively. Now, shout out to Lebron because when
Lebron came into the league, he put the league on notice.
I didn't ask for this, yea. But he put the

(54:31):
league on notice as a teenager, and he increased that
notice his twenty one years in the league. Twenty two
was the twenty two. Now it was track after twenty
yeah something. And so we're in a situation where he

(54:54):
feels like, look, look what I'm doing at forty Jordan
couldn't do it at forty Yeah. No, but Jordan also
liked to drink and smoke cigars.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
At halftime. No, I'm just teazing.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
But he did average twenty a game at age thirty nine. Yeah,
I mean he did.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Yeah, look it's it's look, Lebron James is a is
a freak.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
There has never been a physical specimen with that size
and that speed.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Of course, of course, and you know Michael Jordan did
nine times though you know what he did nine times?

Speaker 4 (55:27):
What do you do nine times?

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Play eighty two games?

Speaker 5 (55:31):
Talk about it now when they could close line you
and it's just a common foul, by the way, talk
about it now.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Another time he's played eighty one, and another time he
played eighty.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Oh lord, so that would be eleven seasons of eighty
eight RUSS.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Games and that is, whether Lebron likes it or not,
whether that's fair now or not, that is part of
this story that hits fans the way it hits fans.
When you perform, you don't get to decide how the
audience reacts to what you're doing. So anyway, sorry to interrupt,

(56:07):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
No, no, that's that's you know. I just think if
these if the Edwards and.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
These young stars Jason Tatum's, if they don't want to
take over the face of the league or feel a
certain way about it, then we got a whole croper
international players who will kindly step right on in.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
Amen, who will kindly step right on in.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
That.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
That one was wild to me.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
And by the way, while we're on this and the
NBA stars, this is what we can do coming up next,
because widely reported this week that there is an NBA
star who's going to be traded this offseason, and in
talking about that this week, he said something fascinating about
any team that would acquire him.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
So we'll get to that next.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
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So this didn't get nearly as much play as what

(58:09):
Lebron said, But I don't know if you heard Kevin
Durant visit Draymond Green's podcast, which was interesting in and
of itself because of all the rumors about like, oh,
Katie didn't want to go back to Golden State because
of Draymond, and then they're hanging out cutting it up, laughing,
having a good time on the podcast this week. But

(58:30):
Brian Windhors reports that Kevin Durant will be traded this offseason,
and that makes sense because the Sun's kind of flirted
with it and then didn't do it and now the
Suns look awful and they.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Got to move off of him. But has this grab you? Man?

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Katie was talking about whoever acquires him, and he's like,
you got to understand, Like, I just didn't want to
move because when I moved to a team, I cost
a lot and it's like a whole new era for
that team, and so I have to be very thoughtful

(59:06):
about where I go because wherever I go, the whole
thing starts over. Well, we were just talking about faces
of the League, and the two guys are forty and
about to be thirty seven, respectively, and they've both reached,
I think a level of awareness Lebron and Steath to
where they're like, we gotta be real careful about how

(59:28):
much is on our shoulders on a nightly basis. So
whether it's Anthony Davis, now Luca, the acquisition of Jimmy Butler,
those guys are really really aware. I think that they
can't do it by themselves anymore. And that's what made
the Durant comment interesting to me, Like, I wonder if

(59:51):
because I feel that way about Kevin now too.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Look at his sons.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
They've got these three highly paid players can't win a game.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
No, no, they can't win the game. They're fractured. It's
a lot of people making a lot of money who
essentially play the same position. None of them are defensive juggernauts,
so you can't play off of that. So unless they're
putting up the shots that they're putting up and getting
the buckets that they're getting, then it just doesn't work.

(01:00:20):
When it happened, I was like, how is this gonna work?
The Sons got rid of all of their really you
know three and D guys or defensive guys and that
energy for scoring. But when you get to the playoffs,
you got to be able to stop people. I don't
care who you are, who's shooting the ball.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
And so.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
You look at any big three and someone sacrificed something
and became a different and better defensive player. The Sons
don't have that, and so now you're at a situation where, yeah,
they gonna score some points, but so can the team
they're playing because they can't stop anybody. And you know,

(01:01:01):
Kevin leaving Golden State, he got his two championships, then
he wanted to do something that made him feel good.
He wanted to play with his friends. They wanted to
go to New York and do all of those things,
and they did. It didn't work. It didn't work. Then
he wanted to go somewhere where it wasn't just all

(01:01:22):
about him and he had help. And you know, one night,
you know, they can score this, one night they can
score that. And it did and it didn't work. You
have to remember, I remember listening to Kyrie and Kevin
Durant when Steve Nash was hired at the Brooklyn Nets,

(01:01:47):
and they were saying that it didn't matter if he
was the coach or not, because some nights I would coach,
some night KD would coached, all right, right right now.
Number one, that's just flat out disrespectful. Uh. Number two,

(01:02:09):
it showed you mentally where they were whether they thought
just because they were talented on the field. They could
win games and it didn't matter who was coaching them.
Just like us, we're talented on the microphone, but our
coach runs the show. And that's one Stephen coach Di Sega.

Speaker 7 (01:02:35):
Coach A Stephen c I thought I was expecting that
to you once for me and coach for me in
can I just mention this game, Oklahoma City is gonna win.
It's a minute and a half to go. They're ahead
at San Antonio. It's now one forty six. Take the
three off. I think they're taking.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
No, it's in.

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
It's in one forty six to one twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
What is going on?

Speaker 7 (01:02:58):
They could have one fifty in this game tonight at
shay Gilchis, Alexander in thirty two minutes has thirty one points,
eight assists, no turnovers. His teammate Jalen Williams with forty
one points in the game. Okase shooting fifty six percent
from the floor. They're going to go to forty nine
and eleven. And that's not the best record in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Right now.

Speaker 7 (01:03:21):
The Cavs have won ten straight. They beat Portland in
overtime today won thirty three one twenty nine. The Cavaliers
are fifty to ten and they won without Donovan Mitchell
today who was out due to rest. DeAndre Hunters scored
thirty two points. And remember last Friday, Cleveland came back
to win at Boston despite trailing twenty five to three
early in the game. Celtics held off Denver today in Boston,

(01:03:44):
one ten to one oh three. Celtic's record forty three
and eighteen. Nikola Jokic in the loss twenty points, fourteen rebounds,
nine assists. Victories for Toronto and Indiana and New York
came back for an overtime win at Miami won sixteen
to one twelve. The Knicks were down seventeen in the
third quarter tonight. Jalen Brunson with thirty one points, Carl
Anthony Town sixteen rebounds. Pelicans are leading late third quarter

(01:04:09):
at Utah eighty eight to eighty and the two late
games start up in just a few minutes. Minnesota does
have Anthony Edwards available at Phoenix. He was listed as
questionable with the sore calf. The Lakers, who won five straight,
do not have starter Austin Reeves out tonight with the
strain calf. Lakers host the Clippers. Jimmy Butler of Golden
State is probable for Monday after missing Saturday's loss due

(01:04:30):
to backspasms. Just a week left in the men's college
hoops regular season, Michigan State won Michigan did not great
news for the Spartans, who were down two at the half,
but eighth ranked Michigan State did beat eleventh ranked Wisconsin
today seventy one sixty two. Illinois wound up winning ninety
three seventy three at fifteenth ranked Michigan, so the Michigan

(01:04:51):
Wolverines are now one game behind first place Michigan State
in the Big Ten standings. Michigan's at Michigan State next
Sunday to end the regular season. Eighteenth ranked Memphis, down
eleven in the first half, came back to win at
UAB eighty eight eighty one Memphis fourteen and two in
the American Conference. In women's hoops, winding up the regular

(01:05:12):
season this weekend, Ole Miss won at number seven LSU.
Maryland in overtime won its top twenty matchup over Ohio State.
Number one ranked Texas won again, but South Carolina gets
the one seed for the conference tournament after a coin
flip NHL overtime victories for Carolina and Toronto. Christopher Bell
took the NASCAR race at Austin, Texas on the road course.

(01:05:34):
The IndyCar season opener, which was also on Fox TV today,
went to Alex Poulow on the streets of Saint Petersburg, Florida.
Joe Highsmith the golf winner at Palm Beach more than
an hour, and then the Jets are expected to cut
wide receiver DeVante Adams if they can't trade him. Dallas
plans to franchise tag defensive tackle Osi A Digizua if
a long term deal is not reached by the Tuesday deadline.

(01:05:56):
Training camps open Monday for the UFL. The spring league,
which has eight teams scouting combined workouts ended today and
if you didn't hear yesterday, the forty nine Ers are
due to trade wide receiver Deebo Samuel to Washington for
a fifth rounder. That deal is not official until March twelfth,
the first day of the new league year.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Back to you, thank you for explaining that, because a
lot of people go, hey, why haven't the forty nine
ers put up a.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Thank you debo post yet? On social media?

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
He already put one up to them, not official yet,
can't say a darn word. So coming up on March twelfth,
you'll get that live tire rack dot Com Studios. Hey,
while we're back to the NFL, I wanted to give
you your flowers from because Travis Kelce literally used the
exact same line that you used when I asked you

(01:06:48):
a week or two ago, do you think Travis Kelse
is gonna play again? And you're like, absolutely here, not
going out like that? And then I saw the thing
come across earlier this week. He's like, I gotta play
and I can't go out like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
But I know, as we sit here today, this may
sound silly because who knows how next season is going
to end, and obviously if the Chiefs put cleats on
their contenders, yep, But like the high likelihood is, yes,
you are going out like that.

Speaker 5 (01:07:22):
I think it's a little bit different when it comes
to them, Yeah, because it just Patrick Mahomes still there,
Andy Reid's still there. They'll make some adjustments because they're
a good organization and they very likely most likely will
find themselves back in a situation to where they're going

(01:07:43):
to compete for you know, a championship again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
That's yeah, but it's just like you usually lose your
last game. That's just like you usually you know what
I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
Like John Elway didn't right and Jerome like there there
there's enough guys where those gold Jackets who haven't for
you to try to script your ending. Peyton Manning didn't
right like, so you there's a there's enough to where
you can say I could have I could have seen

(01:08:17):
him after this Super Bowl retiring three peate. It like,
it doesn't get any better than that three peate we
did it all go off into the sunset, right, it
didn't happen. But you can't go out with the type
of game that he played now that he probably didn't

(01:08:38):
even realize he can play that type of game, but
now that he does, he knows what he can't do
next year and how he has to finish it different
next year.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
That's called motivation. And what is it? What is what
is it? What is what is his motivation? What is it?
What is he chasing?

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Well, he's chasing that bad taste out of his mouth
and sometimes with greatness that's all you need.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
I get it. And I was the one who said
to you last week.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
I think it's the strangest thing in sports media when
people criticize guys for continuing to play, Like I don't
want anybody to retire. If somebody's offering you a job,
take the job. Who am I to say otherwise? However,
I like, I'll just point to this. If you put
one hundred dollars right now on the Kansas City Chiefs

(01:09:34):
to win the Super Bowl next year, you know what
you get back if you're right six hundred, which also
is known as they're probably not going to win.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Like I mean, like, I bet right now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
I'll take the field and Travis losing the last game
of his career again next year. And I and I
say that with full understanding of what you just.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
Said, right, I got you and looks because sometimes it's
just not up to you, right. Sometimes the U first
has other plans, as we saw a couple months ago,
no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
All right, some Shador Sanders stuff that we should get to.
We can do that at the top of the hour.
But coming up next to the New York Giants come
into center focus for two reasons, one because of what
their experience on hard knocks has led to, and two
of all the veteran qbs that are out there, which
one should they be after We'll get to all of

(01:10:40):
that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Okay Live tire Reck dot Com Studios. I was just
doing some reading, Aphrom.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
I was reading up on the eligibility requirements and incoming
changes to.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Hard Knocks in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
And I don't even know how many people know this,
Like there's a whole list of things that can sort
of like help a franchise escape having to be on
Hard Knocks because they don't really.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
Like it, especially especially after the Giants disaster.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, yeah, especially if you're going to do dumb things,
let's not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Have it be on HBO. And so maybe that's kind
of what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Like that's the word that's out there, which is I
guess Hard Knocks is going to do something with Belichick
at North Carolina and that's interesting in and of itself.
But apparently part of this is that teams, after watching
what the New York Giants went through and have them
get so roundly criticized for the Saquon Bark fiasco and beyond,

(01:12:02):
teams are now more hesitant than ever to go on
Hard Knocks and I get it, and I was just
reading about it, and it's actually hard to find a
team that's eligible in such a way where like the
league could step in and force them to do it,

(01:12:22):
because if you've made the playoffs the last two years, you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Don't have to go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
If you've been on Hard Knocks over the last ten years,
you don't have to go. And if you have a
brand new head coach, you don't have to go. Those
three things cover just about everybody. Like I had a
hard time finding anybody who doesn't fit one of those

(01:12:49):
three categories.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
So I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Like, how would that have grabbed you when you were
playing if your whole deal was like a documentary?

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
I we I was on the first ever Hard Knocks.
It wasn't called Hard Knocks. It was with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
It was on the NFL network, and it was called
training Camp I think, okay, and that was, in my opinion,

(01:13:20):
the genesis of Hard Knocks. They came and they spent
the whole training camp with us, and I did what
I do, you know, you know, I start to steal
the show and that I just that's just me, right,
My wife calls the TV ephram.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
So it just and I'll tell you a quick story.

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
I desperately didn't want to play for the Jaguars because
I went out of spite. I shouldn't have I shouldn't
have signed there, and I did. It wasn't my style.
I was two hundred and eighty five pounds. I didn't
fit the style of offense. I came from Denver zone blocking,

(01:14:13):
very light offensive line. We'll run you to death, to gap, power,
pull the tackle and guard. You know, it was a lot,
but it wasn't a fit for me, and so I
had done I can't I don't want to say this
because it's I don't think it was. I don't think

(01:14:34):
I could get away with that. But I had done something,
and I I had asked, you know, I wondered. I
asked myself, I wonder if I got cut, where could
I go? And I had never been cut before or
anything like that, but I knew that there was a

(01:14:55):
place I could go.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
I'll just say that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
And so I remember coming into those last the day
of the last cuts. I remember coming into the to
the the facility and they had the cameras right there
at the door, and they were like, hey, how do
you feel about the you know, this being the last cuts,

(01:15:19):
how do you feel about cut day? And I was like, uh,
did I get cut? And they were like, no, of
course not. And the look on my face was of
utter disappointment. And my wife said, if you ever look
that disappointed about keeping a job in the NFL, we're

(01:15:48):
gonna have a problem. So that I was definitely part
of the first iteration of that show.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
So it was fine, you know, it was fine. It
was what it was. Where were you going to go?
Where were I was going to go back somewhere. I'll
just leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Oh, so I was.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
Going to go back Somewhereuston. I was going to go
back somewhere. I don't know, Denver. You have to figure out.
I don't know, man, hot ladder, That's all I know.
Was it was it a bird or like it was

(01:16:37):
another destination? Was it a different animal? No, it was
a different destination. It was a different animal than the jaguars.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Yes, okay, so not of Texan. Okay, we're getting somewhere.
We're getting somewhere anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Belichick on hard knocks at the Collins level will be interesting. Interesting,
That's gonna be something now now that by the way,
I'm super interested to see Belichick handle the media again
because it's like, now the whole world knows you actually
do have a personality build.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
You don't get to go you don't get to go
anywhere on the Fensinnati like, you don't get to do
that anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:17:20):
No, you gotta because now we know. We saw it
on the roast, on the Tom Brady Road.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Absolutely, we saw it every day this last year.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Guy was on, Guy was on McAfee's show, just crushing
it on a daily So what's he gonna do for
an encore? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Yeah, it'd be interesting. Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch. Though.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
I think college football needs it as well, So I
think that's a good look.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
I really me too. And speaking of college football, Shador
Sanders is not gonna play there anymore, but after the
combine and here we go the up down nature of
what's going on on with his draft position and everything
like that. I am so fascinated by this guy, the
whole family. I'm a fan of Dion Sanders and everything

(01:18:11):
that he's built.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
But obviously, as you know, a lot of people aren't
and I wonder as he hits the NFL, do you
think the background and the family dynamic is helping, it's hurting,
it's both, it's neither. Let's get into that. Coming up
next with you from salam Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio.

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(01:19:06):
The combine finishes up. And obviously, because of his last
name and because of his play, Shador Sanders is one
of the best known college football players, and therefore there's
always going to be a lot of debate about where
he should go, what kind of an effect he'll have

(01:19:28):
on a team when he gets there. I want to
make not a comparison, because I don't think that they
are like at all, But I think the way the
world processes the situations, there are some similarities. Where you
have a father who is very boisterous, a very very

(01:19:48):
big personality. We've seen this kind of family situation before
in an incredibly different way, obviously because use LaVar Ball
was not one of the greatest players at his position
of all time, and he was not a head coach
at all. But I've been fascinated by the way a

(01:20:11):
family dynamic that gets a lot of attention can affect
players on the way in and fascinated by the way
LeVar made such a big deal about players on the
way in and then disappeared and like we've never sort
of heard from him again. And so I ask you this,
are there any similarities with regard to that kind of

(01:20:35):
an attention before you get to the pros, And how
do you think that's affecting Shador as this process starts.

Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
No, I think he's grown up with that level of attention.
Remember they had a reality show, yes, indeed, so this
is nothing new for them, the spotlight all of that,
this is just normal. You know, he was playing Pop
Warner when he was on TV, right, so the world

(01:21:06):
got to see who he was before he was who
he is, and so I don't think any of that
has any effect on him whatsoever. It's like you know,
asking the Karda the youngest Kardashian kids. Oh, I don't know,

(01:21:28):
is it because it's gonna be too much?

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
Sure he can't. I don't like worry about him handling it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
What's about the scrutiny? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Like, yes, I noticed the way others react to him.

Speaker 5 (01:21:40):
They've been scrutinizing this kid. This kid has been above
all of that. Now will that translate into the NFL?
I don't think. I think talent is talent right, Obviously
he's talented. We wouldn't be speaking about him like we're talking.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
About him if he was in Towners, of course.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
And so how talented can he be in the in
the NFL? We don't know that. He doesn't know that.
I know he believes it could be something else. He
believes it could be something special, as he should, and
every other player going into the draft or at the
combine working out should believe they could be special in

(01:22:25):
the league as well. Until you get there and then
you have to show him proof. That's how it goes.
You don't go into the league, like I don't know,
I might not be ready for this. So for the
detractors and the naysayers, it's a situation where yeah, that
sounds good, and you know, it's this is life, this

(01:22:46):
is football.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
I think he's going to be fine.

Speaker 5 (01:22:49):
I think his knowledge of the game, his skill set translates.
The one thing I do want him to do is
get rid of the ball, because if he holds on
to the ball like he did at Colorado, he is
not going to make.

Speaker 4 (01:23:01):
It through a season and not gonna work.

Speaker 5 (01:23:03):
And so there are some things that he do he
does need to to shure up and and fix, like
all rookies going into the league. But do I think
this is going to be too big form or absolutely not?
I really don't. And I don't think the naysayers and
the noise outside, I don't think that's going to affect him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
What what I sort of look at again, it's not
so much his ability to handle all of this. It's
sort of the differences with the way others around him
handle him, and and and I guess what I certainly
noticed with a lot of young players coming in the league,
when there's a lot of noise about this player, good, bad, otherwise, whatever,

(01:23:50):
just a lot of attention. I think it's what you said,
talent wins out, and so what I what I look
out for is when the attention is louder than the talent.
And I don't know that to be the case here.
But for example, let's go back to my comparison I

(01:24:11):
made before, which is probably a bad one because it's
not it's not a perfect one, but I think I
think my point is wrapped somewhere in there. Lonzo Ball, right,
the attention outweighed the talent. Now what are we finding
out later in his career, which has been killed by injuries?

(01:24:31):
There is actually some talent there. There is he is
an NBA player. Without the injuries, he could have been
a really good NBA player, But it was so overwhelmed
by noise that what you're setting up is a player
who can be good and will still be seen as
a disappointment because.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
I just don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
I don't know how many how many things talent wise
can meet this level of noise, And so that's that's
my concern for Shador Sanders. It's almost like people are
waiting to boo him. Before it even gets there. And
he still he still.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
Gets to be a rookie and go through his process
like everybody else.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
You know, it's a lot of bad quarterback play in
the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
That too, And so.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
Number one, you gotta have a level of confidence did
borderlines insanity in order to do this.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
This is real.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
This is coming from someone who had to convince himself that, yeah,
I do belong and I belonged at a high level.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
For a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
I remember being at the combine and I was there
with Floesel Adams and Trey uh what was Trey Thomas
from Florida State and Big Flow Flozel to Hotel from
Michigan State, Victor Riley like all we all played the

(01:26:07):
same position. Floso Adams was like three fifty, Big Tray
was was like three forty five. Victor Riley was you know,
three thirty eight. I was two eighty two. We all

(01:26:33):
played the same position. So you you gotta you gotta
convince yourself that, oh, okay, yeah, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
I belong I it doesn't matter. I don't care what
my measurables are any of that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:59):
And so you go into it with that, with that
level of no, I do belong here. I do belong here.
So it's you know, it's I get it, I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:27:24):
And so when you look at when you look at that, well,
just listen to these names. The All Rookie Team nineteen
ninety eight, Peyton Manning, Fred Taylor, Robert Edwards who was
amazing before he got hurt that the next offseason, Randy Moss,

(01:27:49):
Cam Cleland, Jason Fabini, Ephram Salaam, Kyle Turley, Steve McKinney,
Kevin Long. That's the offensive All Rookie team. There's one
seventh round draft pick on that list. Yes, I had

(01:28:10):
to convince myself that I belonged. I was crazy that
I can perform that early.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
That well.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
Shout out to Kyle tur That's two offensive linemen from
San Diego State.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
On the All Rookie team.

Speaker 5 (01:28:33):
Shout out to Ed White, longtime NFL great and tremendous coach.
He told me and Kyle, I'm going to teach you
everything you know that you need to know to start
and be successful your rookie year. And that's what he did, right.
But that's the level of crazy you have to be,

(01:28:59):
whether you got hype or not. And if you believe
that you're gonna go and and and you're gonna show
up and show out, that's a heck of it. That's
a heck of a eleven right there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Yeah, it is. It is. It's interesting the way Dion's
handling it too.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Though, also, like you watch the Yin Yang and I
know people think Dion's some sort of a live wire.
I think he's crazy like a fox. I think he
understands everything he's doing. And so it's a it's a
classic build him up, build him up, build him up,
build him up. And that was going on for a
long time at Colorado, last couple of years.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Build him up, build him up. And now you get
here and you're suddenly hearing Dion go, oh no, I
would draft that guy over there over my son. I
might drop that guy over there over my son. Like
now it's now it's the about face of almost trying
to real shoot door back in a little bit. And

(01:30:04):
I don't know, man, there's a lot of psychology I
would imagine that goes into it, which is exactly what
I think you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
Yeah, and you got to also remember this, this boy
has been a millionaire his own money, not his father's.
He's been a millionaire for along three or four years now, right,
like he's had he's bought his own cars. He bought
his offensive Lineman up four hundred thousand dollars car. So

(01:30:35):
this is a situation where he's made his own money already.
He's reached a level of you know, he couldn't go
to class. He had to do all of his work
at home, right, he.

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
Couldn't be on campus.

Speaker 5 (01:30:50):
So when you talk about how he's speaking in all
of that, you have to put it in context. His
life has been different. It's been different. He couldn't even
move around. He'll have more freedom as an NFL player

(01:31:11):
than he did as a top college player.

Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
And so.

Speaker 5 (01:31:19):
I personally think he's handling it as well as he
can because it's a lot. A lot of people can't
handle that level of scrutiny. Case in point, when we
brought up the Ball brothers, Lonzo couldn't handle it, but
Mello could.

Speaker 4 (01:31:40):
He embraced it. Mello embraced it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
Yeah, they got a different lot in life. Lonzo went
to the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
Yeah, that's a tough that's tough place to go.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Melo went to Charlotte, where everybody thinks thirty one points
and a twenty point loss is cool.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
Yeah, But what I'm saying is he wasn't shining away
from any of it, because you got to remember he
also was making money prior to getting into the NBA.

Speaker 4 (01:32:10):
So it's just different. Your mentality is different.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
You already had a house, you already had a vehicle,
you already had all the things that you needed.

Speaker 4 (01:32:22):
So your your your mentality is different. And so.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
This is a new generation of athlete coming in in
i L We're going to see a lot a lot
of different levels of athletes. The nil landscape has changed everything.
Their millionaire is going to be millionaires.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
That's interesting. That's that's a that's a very fair point.

Speaker 5 (01:32:49):
And so we don't even know what that looks and
feels like in a bund and you know, we only
have a small sample size, but that's just going to
be the norm. That's why I made that statement, Like
Cooper Cooper flag he may stay at Duke here.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Tell me.

Speaker 5 (01:33:08):
Look, Matt Lioner was the first to do it. Of course,
you know, allegedly he was making money allegedly, and so
he was like, nah, I'm going back. Everybody in the
world was like come out. He was like, no, I'm
having a good time. I'm in La there's no football here.

(01:33:29):
I'm the talk of the town, and I'm making a
pretty good living with my summer job.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
I will ask, what do you think he would do
if he had to do it all over him?

Speaker 5 (01:33:39):
He would come out. He would come out early because
he would have went to a better situation.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:33:42):
But the difference is, you know, now, that's completely different.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
It's on the books.

Speaker 5 (01:33:50):
If someone says, hey, Cooper, we'll give you ten to
come back plus whatever, whatever, whatever. Or you can go
be the Charlotte Hornets, are the Detroit Well, well no,
it's not even Detroit anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Who is it?

Speaker 9 (01:34:08):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:34:09):
The Wizards. You can be the Washington Wizards first pick. Brother,
Please tell me what you what would you do? I
can go back to I can go back to Duke,
I can make more money, I can perfect my craft more.
Or I can go play for the Wizards.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Well, you're making it sound like it's an easy call.

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
What I'm telling you is guarantee on the other end
the benefits. Well, once you sign that nao, dude, that's
guarantee that that money's money.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
I get it. I get it. There's a lot that
comes along with being an NBA star that like your
your footprint and your brand.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
In today's sporting landscape, it's limited.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
In college basketball, let's.

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
Say real it is. But let me tell you this.
Remember what I said about the shoe thing.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
I hear you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
I heard all about the shoe thing.

Speaker 9 (01:35:10):
I hear y'all because it's faint because now if you're
a free agent, now you have the one hundred and
twenty five one hundred and fifty million dollar sneaker deal.

Speaker 5 (01:35:25):
So you not only get paid more for staying, you
also get a bump when you come in because now
you're a free agent.

Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
When it comes to your shoes. Athletes are verticals.

Speaker 5 (01:35:39):
These athletes are verticals, meaning they're they are their their
own revenue streams outside of just their sport. So more
thought goes into exactly this, making these decisions that you
used to be like, well, I'm going pro so I
can get do do this, and do that. It's a
it's more nuanced now because now you can make NBA money.

(01:36:00):
He will make more in college than he would his
first year in the league. I got you on top
of being able to start fresh in the league with
a brand new sneaker deal. That's something you sit down
and you talk to your people or your reps or
whoever you tell it. Right, that's a different conversation. Then, Oh,

(01:36:23):
he's just coming out. He wanted, he ready to go
to the league. He's coming to the league. Two different
conversations that are happening right there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
No doubt, no doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
By the way, two different conversations about two different teams
that we've had earlier tonight. I want to compare and
contrast these organizations. I'm going to give you one basketball
team and one football team, and you tell me which
one has screwed things up more over the last twelve months.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Will unveil that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
Coming up next with me from Salamo, Mark Weather, and
this is Fox Sports Radio, Oh Alventhetyranch.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Dot Com Studios.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
I'm kind of half stepping in here because is if
memory serves, this is a song.

Speaker 5 (01:37:05):
This is a song that makes me No, I don't
play by my purple rain.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
This song makes you sing, but you're also about to
lose your voice.

Speaker 10 (01:37:12):
You want to see you it the purple rain. I'm
not to be your we can love up. I'll saw you.
I saw you change the key out.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Way through because you're like, no, I don't have it today.
That was funny.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
That was funny from all right, Mark Mark willerty from
salam Hey, this is a fun one.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
Let me throw this at you, right. Steve de Saga is.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
Gonna be here in like three minutes. But check this out.
If I were to ask you who messed up their
roster construction more over the last twelve months, Phoenix Sons
or New York Jets.

Speaker 5 (01:38:13):
I would say the Phoenix Sons. Why because the Jets
still have quality pieces that can be salvaged. The Sons
do not. They got to burn it down. And to me,

(01:38:34):
that's more of a detriment. Like you got Bryce, you
got Garrett Wilson, Garrett Wilson, you know the defensive You
have this there now, if you can clean up El

(01:38:55):
capy Tan, then you got something.

Speaker 11 (01:39:00):
What what do you have in in in in Phoenix?
Devin Booker, Yeah, alone, that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:13):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
Bowl Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
I actually like Bobo.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
I know he's starting to play.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
I like Bob you seeing him lately. I like Bobo Bo.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
He is starting to play can play. Yeah, he's firing
three's just like his dad used to man, Oh my god.
The difference is there's a lot of them are going in.

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
Yeah he can play, Yeah he's fun.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
What were I mean? I'm sitting here watching the Suns
right now. They're leading the Tea Wolves by six, late
second quarter. Kind of a wonky game so far. But uh,
but anyway, I'm just thinking about this because obviously Aaron
Rodgers is on his way out the door. Devantae Adams
may well be next, and and both of them feel

(01:40:02):
similar to me, the Sons and Jets, because both of
them got to the end of last year had obvious
problems with the way that they had constructed their roster
and doubled down, and both of them held press conferences
to profess their love for their biggest name and tell
that person, oh my gosh, we are gonna, we're gonna,

(01:40:24):
We're gonna continue to build this thing all around you.
The Sons did it with Kevin Durant. The Jets did
it more so with their actions than their words. They
have Aaron Rodgers and then they went and got DeVante Adams,
and so there's just constant doubling down of wrong and
for both of them, it got worse, not better.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
Yeah, when you're shortsighted in terms of building a quality team,
then you missed what you're not paying at time to
And chemistry has a lot to do with that. When
you overvalue a certain thing, you tend to undervalue other things.

(01:41:10):
And those things are quite important, just as important as
us getting to Stephen Disaga on time.

Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
And I'm not going to let you Mark. I'm not
going to let Mark run into Steve's time. So without
further ado, come to the stage, put your hands together
for Steven, smooth grooves, disagre.

Speaker 7 (01:41:35):
Let's go you.

Speaker 11 (01:41:38):
Yeah, you're my hero.

Speaker 7 (01:41:40):
I'd like to think I'd like to thank my college acting.
Oh wrong show. By the way, somebody who used to
work here did point out on Twitter three hours into
the Oscar still no best actor, no best actress, no
best director, no best picture. They started to think an
hour early, I guess, just so they could go an
hour over. Just think you goodness to the NBA. We've

(01:42:04):
got two late games tonight. Lakers have won five in
a row. They are leading late first half against the
Clippers fifty four to forty three. Dalton connect with fourteen
points off the bench for the Lakers, twelve early points
for Luka Doncich in this one. Austin Reeves Lakers starter
out with a stray calf. For the Clippers, Norman Powell
came back from injury, but has left and will not

(01:42:24):
return due to a sore hamstring. The game at Phoenix
is the other late one late first half Suns up
forty five forty two over Minnesota. Anthony Edwards does have
thirteen points for the Timberwolves. He had been questionable with
a sore calf for this game. He was fine, by
the way Edward's thirty five thousand dollars for his behavior
after being kicked out on Thursday. Jimmy Butler of Golden

(01:42:45):
State is probable for Monday's game after missing last Saturday's
loss due to back spasms. Wins for New Orleans and Toronto,
Indiana as well. New York came back for an overtime
victory at Miami. Cleveland won its tenth straight and overtime
win against Portland, fifty to ten. Record for the Cavs.
Oklahoma City now forty nine and eleven after winning tonight

(01:43:06):
at San Antonio one forty six to one thirty two.
Jalen Williams forty one points and Boston held off Denver
one ten to one oh three. In men's college basketball,
just a week left in the regular season, eight thrank
Michigan State was down two at the half but still
beat eleventh ranked Wisconsin seventy one sixty two, and the
Spartans are now a game ahead of rival Michigan in

(01:43:27):
the Big Ten standings. Fifteenth ranked Michigan lost at home
to Illinois ninety three to seventy three. NHL overtime wins
for Toronto and Carolina. Christopher Bell took the NASCAR race
at Austin, Texas on the road course, and the IndyCar
season opener, also on Fox TV, went to Alex Below
all seventeen races this season for IndyCar now on Fox TV.

(01:43:49):
That includes the Indy five hundred in late May. The
Jets are expected to cut wide receiver Davonte Adams if
they can't trade him. His cap number is thirty eight
million salary not guaranteed by the way. Scouting combine workouts
ended today. And the golf winner at Palm Beach Joe Heismith. No,

(01:44:10):
I've never heard of him either, had to look it up.
He's from Pepperdine University in Los Angeles. Jordan Speath was
five shots back, tied for ninth place. PGA Tours in
Florida for four straight events, now live golf re zums
next weekend in Hong Kong. Here's the story. Today's winner,
Joe Heismith, needed to sink a put on Friday just

(01:44:32):
to make the cut, otherwise it would have fit his
fourth miss cut in six starts. Instead, he made the cut,
got a tea time for Saturday morning shot sixty four
Saturday sixty four today and wins his first tour sanctioned tournament. Ah,
it is amazing. This guy was scheduled to fly from

(01:44:54):
West Palm Beach today to play in the Puerto Rico
Open this coming week Instead he's going to be play
against the big boys. Now make a couple hours drive
to Orlando for the Arnold Palmer Invitational, which is one
of those signature events, the first of his career. As
we brought up on this show, aside from the majors,
you get huge money on the PGA Tour from the

(01:45:14):
so called signature events, which it will be in Orlando
this coming weekend. By winning today, he's also in the Masters.
He's also in the PGA Championship. He has his PGA
Tour cards secure through twenty twenty seven. And he also
takes home about one point sixty six million dollars for

(01:45:34):
winning this and I repeat, he made the cut on
the number and wound up winning the event, something that,
to say the least, is a bit rare. Apparently three
times in the last fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
Oh, you're saying there's a chance.

Speaker 7 (01:45:52):
Looking at the money list. By the way, for this event,
there was an amateur who finished in the top twenty.
Being an amateur, he will not receive a payout. So
the other amounts, shall we say, we're adjusted accordingly. So
Ricky Fowler, who tied for eighteenth with this amateur, Fowler
gets over one hundred thousand dollars. This amateur is well,

(01:46:13):
let's just say he retains his amateur status.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Back to you, unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:46:17):
I would be like, hey, I don't want to be
any good I'm getting I.

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
Pay that man his money.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
I bet you guys will agree with this. If they
could structure other sports, it's not possible, but if you
could structure it the way golf is structured financially, don't
you think that fans and players in sports would have
like a healthier relationship. And here's what I mean by that. Like,

(01:46:48):
you you play well, you get more money and and
and then more good things happen. If you play poorly,
you get less money and fewer guarantees and fewer this
and fewer that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
And it's all based on your play.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Now, I get it, less so than has been the
case in years past now with a lot of appearance
fees and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
But like that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
Man's life just changed because he went out and shot
sixty four both days, not because not because somebody gave
it to him.

Speaker 5 (01:47:26):
Yeah, but you know, it's also an individual sport. So yeah,
it's you know, it's easy when it's just you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
No, I get it, it's not possible, but because.

Speaker 5 (01:47:35):
The whole team would have to be structured under that
same structure.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Totally totally, But I mean, wouldn't it be fun?

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Again, this is completely like not possible, but it would
be fun if Dalton Connect, for instance, got more money
tonight because he's out there balling. He got fourteen points
in the first half. You score more points, you get
more money.

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:05):
Yeah, I know it doesn't work. I'm just saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:09):
No, I'm saying I don't know if I would like that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Well, I think money being tied to performance in the
NBA would come with a standing ovation right now, if
there were a way.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
To do it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:23):
Yeah, I understand that. But they you got to remember,
they allowed this to get to where it is, right,
they allowed the collective bargaining and all to get to
uh now it's out of control. Somebody's you know, player's
gonna be making seventy million dollars a year, you know,
sixty eight million dollars a year. It's just gonna grow

(01:48:45):
once those first hundred million dollar contracts started happening. Once
Kevin Garnett did that, he hit the ticket, and then
they gave they had to give, you know, Chris Webber
got it, then.

Speaker 4 (01:48:55):
Juwan Howard got it.

Speaker 5 (01:48:57):
After Juwan Howard got it, Shack was like, if they
paid him, what do you think they gotta pay me?

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
Like on it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
Once that happens, once you play a marginal Once you
pay a marginal player, I'll lie Dak Prescott that amount
of money, you open the flood gates. And that's what's
been happening in the NBA since you play marginal players
max contracts when the actual stars are up.

Speaker 4 (01:49:28):
Good luck, good luck.

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Yeah yeah, no, I got you, I got you all right,
heading for Plank and Spaniard, but not done yet. A
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Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
Davante Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
You heard Steve mention DeVante Adams availability, I got a
question for you regarding Davante Adams coming up next right
here on Fox Sports Radio tyrak dot com studios. Could
you be loved if you're Davante Adams, I think you
can be. Look, I'm not going to pretend that I

(01:50:37):
understand all the intricacies of the CAP, and I know
most of our listeners don't have a full understanding of
the CAP. I just know that it can be manipulated
just about whenever people want it to be. And I
think Davante Adams can still really play.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
Of course, you can play right very high level.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
At a very high level. And that's a locker room presence.

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
Quite frankly, I want like you and I I know
we watched that Receiver doc.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
We referred to it a lot and.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
Davante, Hey, he rubbed some people the wrong way and
some people the right way.

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
I thought that was somebody I want in my locker room. Yeah,
I thought, I thought, you, man, he wants to be
on the West coast.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
Come on, yeah, yeah, man, Right, doesn't that make all
the sense in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:51:35):
I mean, lose one, get one right, right, and you
need an anchor, by the way, especially now because one
thing that no one really thinks about with the departure
of Deebo Samuel, you know what, that wide Receiver room just.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Became really young. Yeah, really young, really fast. You've got
some accomplished people in there.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
Juwan Jennings and Brandon Ayuk aren't brand new, but they're young.
And Pier Saul.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
I want somebody not named Brandon Aiyuk to to uh
and Pierceaul and Brandon are boys. I like, I get it.
They had some college time together, so I boy, I
just think I think DeVante Adams to the forty nine
ers makes too much set.

Speaker 5 (01:52:25):
Too much sense. Let's hope hopefully they're they're listening. That's
the way to do it, right, yep. Oh, I think
that that would be so good for Brock Party too.
Oh they need it for Brock Party. That makes sense
for Brock Party. And I'm sure Brock Party is like, hey,
can we do this, guys? Yeah, big year for.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
Him, big year for him, huge year for him.

Speaker 4 (01:52:48):
This this is this is the everything year.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
Well, and I wonder, look, obviously it's the lynch pin
and it's what everybody's waiting on. And I've predicted for
a while that this will be on the quicker. I
was listening to some people from the Combine who know
what they're talking about, and they're like, look, quarterback contracts,
they just they take a while.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
It's not like the Packers and Jordan Love.

Speaker 4 (01:53:11):
Didn't know that they right exactly the right.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
They knew everybody was on the same page, and that
thing still bled into training camp. But I just think
that the forty nine ers are in a weird spot.
After the year that they've had and all of the discord.
And I'll go ahead and tell you this. I think
you're probably assuming it, but I'll confirm it for you.
There are plenty of people in that organization with some

(01:53:36):
serious buyer's remorse.

Speaker 2 (01:53:38):
With regard to Brandon Nyuk. Yes, they are really frustrated
with the way that whole thing went down, some of
it at him and some of it at themselves. But
there's a lot of frustration.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
There and I just don't think they can go through
another dramatic.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Offseason. I just don't think they can do it.

Speaker 5 (01:54:00):
They need to be locked in and focus on getting
back to where they were and who they are more
so than anything, Who are we? I think that's the
most important part.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
So I mean, are we? Are we looking at a
brock pretty extension get announced this month?

Speaker 5 (01:54:20):
I would say so, yeah, because everybody knows it's going
to happen. So it's one of those situations where you know,
I'm interested to see what it's going to be because
you know, is Brock one of those guys who's like, look,
I don't want to take all the money, but I
want a lot of it, right, I want I want
enough of it, But I'm not going to take all

(01:54:43):
of it, right, that would be in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
And look.

Speaker 5 (01:54:50):
They do oh okay, he's played for free for three years.
And so it's a situation where they might be like, look,
not sixty, We'll give you fifty five.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
Plus, we'll buy your house.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
Well, you, by the way, you know this better than many.
That number that everyone's fixated on means nothing. No, it doesn't.
It's the structure, and it's a structure of the deal.
Guarantees will give you.

Speaker 5 (01:55:22):
We will guarantee eighty percent of it. Eighty five percent
of it fully guarantee.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
Oh I actually would bet that it will be less
than that.

Speaker 5 (01:55:32):
No, but that's what I'm saying because they owe him. Right,
if you bring a year number down and you guarantee
eighty five percent of it, Okay, Okay, that way we
can go get Davante Adams. That way we can go,
you know, get a backup to Christian.

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
Well, I mean, the Niners are swimming in cap space
in the near term, and I know that they just
for And again, I don't want to get into the
whole nuts and bolts of it, because I think it's
confusing to people but the Deebo Samuel cap hit was
going to be spread out over two years, and now
it all goes to one. So instead of basically, you know,
him being like a seventeen or sixteen million dollar cap

(01:56:19):
hit this year, now it's double that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
But they save.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
Money in the long run, and they were loaded with
cap space already for this year, so it doesn't really
hurt their pursuit of others. I think is the easiest
way that I can I can say it, and that's
why I think that there could be something that works
out on the DeVante Adams front or elsewhere. Boy, there's

(01:56:45):
a lot of good receivers open this offseason. There's a
lot of action at that position, and obviously it's all
tucked into I think something.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
That you and I talked about a lot this season,
which is went burst, didn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:57:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
You know, Cooper Cup, Deebo, Samuel, Davante, Adams, Tim Wiggins.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
Nobody's You're not getting thirty five million, no, Jamar Will.
That's about it. That's about it. Yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
Rams might be the other spot for Davante, by the way,
that'd be the other spot. Yeah, that'd be good, wouldn't it.
My goodness, they'd be danger Yeah, now that now that
Stafford is staying, they'd be dangerous. You made it, man,
I did you did it? I did eight and all. Now,

(01:57:40):
once you get back from Vegas.

Speaker 5 (01:57:42):
By the way, I drove home, drop my family off,
and drove to the station.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
Like you didn't even shower.

Speaker 4 (01:57:50):
I drove home, drop my family off.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Did you Did you get out of the car or no.

Speaker 4 (01:57:57):
I'd switched cars from my truck to the car. That
was it. I came right over. But I'm a professional.

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
You did it. You did it, and we're gonna do
it again next week. Good Night, everyone,

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