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Speaker 1 (00:36):
How are you, Buck?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm good and what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Everything is good. I couldn't wait to talk to you today.
I got to get something off my chest. But first
the news of the day. I guess everybody's telling you
about the Masters. You know why there's nothing else going on?
Really too early for baseball. NBA players haven't started yet,
NCAA basketball is over, you know football, the draft is
like about ten twelve days away. So it's Master's time.
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And they got Rory McElroy right now. Two stroke leader
to the finals today. He's twelve under fifty four. That's
the good news. Do you watch golf, do you play golf?
Tell me I'd like to know.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I can't say that I'm an avid golf watcher participant,
but I know enough to know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Also, I'm good enough to.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Not embarrass myself when I go play in scrambles, so
I know a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
All right, I'm glad. I'm glad you're kind of on
the same wavelength as me. You know, the golf situation
is like, you know, you get invited to these golf tournaments,
you gotta go right. Other than that, I could care
less about golf really, And I'm gonna take a page
out of my buddy Mike North. If they have the
Masters in my backyard, I close the curtains really because
I want to know what's the big deal. And I
said that early on everybody smooth, smooth, smooth.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'm here the announcers on TV.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
He's going up to the tee and no, I'm tired
of it. First of all, golf is not a sport.
It's recreation number one, all right, number two. It has
no gambling interest whatsoever. Yeah, they have a pool now
and again. But that's basically not really big gambling. Where's
the defense? Most great sports have defenses. In football, they
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have a special defensive unit. Golf has no defense. We're
at the storylines. Where's the controversy. That's what sports is
all about. And I'll tell you what else about sports?
And what about golf and the Masters in particular. It's
an elitist sport. Bill, No one's gonna say it. I'll
say it. Golf is an elitist sport. Even the name,
the name Masters. Are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You can't even use the.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Term master bedroom anymore? Masters, change the name. It's an
elitist sport. It's a selective sport. It's too long, it's
four freaking days. The public doesn't and the public can't relate.
They can't relate to the Masters. They can't relate to golf. Now,
I will tell you this. I challenge anybody, anybody and
everybody to challenge me on what I had to say
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about the Masters on golf in general. At eight seven
to seven ninety nine on Fox sixty three sixty nine,
Bucket Brooks, I know you agree with me.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I know you're gonna agree it's an elitist sport.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And the term masters in this day and age, Are
you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Really?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah? I don't. I don't. I'm on the other side
of defense. I don't take.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Offense to the masters being called the masters, because I
think it's masters of the basics, masters of skills in
those things.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So I don't see it as anything beyond that. In
terms of the game.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
And like needing pizzazz, I don't know, Like I mean,
you would like to think it would be driven by
stop park star power, but really we've only had like
the Tiger Woods effect, like pretty much one time in
my lifetime where you've had a sizeable superstar that was
able to captivate the minds and the attention of the audience.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
For such a long period.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
And it's definitely not tied to win it because we've
seen guys come and go.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Roy McLeroy is at the top of the list.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
He's won significant enough to maybe make people like follow winners.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
If it was about.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Winning, I think it's a little bit about everything. It's
about dominance, is about a flair for the dramatic style,
all those things that kind of come into it right now,
they just don't have anyone that captivates the minds of
like young, old, casual and serious fans. And I blame
a lot of that on Tiger Woods. He was so good,
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he was so captivating, He made so many people kind
of fall in love with the sport.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
They haven't been able to replace that.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
And so that's really why you haven't seen the same
excitement or enthusiasm or even ratings when it comes to golf.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Blessed you, Bucky Brooks. Okay, I'm gonna say something right now.
You got that clown and we'll get to him later
on Today in Memphis, the Memphis Cruzy John Morant, even
he's going off again. I'll tell you this much. You
get a John Morant and Rory McElroy and announced they're
going to be at a certain maybe an event. I
guarantee you John Moran well the audience as opposed to
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Rory McElroy. That's just the way that people relate to
John Moran, good bit or and different. No matter what
he does. He can make a gun with his fan,
with his fingers, whatever you want to do, but more
people will relate to him than to Rory McElroy Because
I will say it again, golf is an elitist sport
only for certain people, certain age groups. And really, you know,
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you got money to play golf, That's basically what it is.
And most people right now don't have that extra money
to play golf. They don't, they really don't. I just think, look,
you want, you feel like golf, bless your soul, go
play golf. But I will say this, I still say
it's a recreation. It's not a sport, period.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I John Moran, No, I think it's I still think
it's a sport.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I think it's a sport because, like there's some exertion
and there's a lot of skill that required.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Everyone can't play. There's a skill level that you have
to have to be really good at the sport.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
And when you think about like other sports that we
tell talk about guys that have been good. So for instance,
when they go to Tahoe and play in the summer,
you see hockey players and baseball players and a couple.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Of football guys perform really well.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
And there's typically a crossover to those skills like the
level of concentration, the level of focus, the level of
attention to detail that you need, all is required to
be a really really good golfer, and I found for
me it has been when I play recreationally. It's been
a great way to like kind of develop and really
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work on my ability to focus between shot to shot,
which is very, very similar to the ability to play
one play at a time on a football field.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So I won't.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Disrespect golfers by saying it's not a sport. I think
it's different, but I think certainly is a sport.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Okay, I'll say this.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Let's say, for example, that're having an opening, a grand
opening of a supermarket whatever it may be, any city,
I don't care, and they invite Roy McElroy or John Moran,
more people will show up if it's promoted that John
Moran's going to be there. A good bitter and different
and the guy is a bit of a clown, I
get it, But more people can relate to him, more
people know who he is. If you're walking down the street,
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more people would recognize him than Rory Rackle. Right, That's
just the way it is. And I'll tell you something
else about golf, and I see it all the time.
More business deals are cut on the golf course than
anywhere else. It's a social event. That's basically what It's fine.
You know, I'm not down on it. But these people
that take care of the Master, the way they talk
about the masses, you think it's at the second coming.
Come on, it's an event, the good news about the masses.
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And they're lucky about this. As I said, there's nothing
else going on. They have the perfect sports window. There's
nothing else too sofa NFL to sufa NFL Draft. It's
too late for the NCUBLEA it's over, and it's too
early for baseball. There's nothing going on. So golf has
that perfect window and it's the Masters, and it's promoted
pretty heavily during the NCAA Final Four tournament because it's
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on CBS Boom and the story.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I mean, I mean it is true.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Like I mean, it's gonna be crossover when it comes
to marketing because CBS does hold March Madness and the Masters.
But I would say like it has been part of
the tradition for a while. I remember watching that as
a kid. I remember watching Jack Nicholas and all those things.
And you're right about business deals being consummated on the
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golf course like casually, but that's by casuals. We're not
seeing business deals done in the middle of the Masters.
I mean that's I mean, that's part of the deal.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think you had to give me a little more respect,
a little more respect.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
All right, if you say so. I listened to you.
You know, you're you're my conscious. You are on this show.
You are my conscious, And a lot of times I
go off and take a detour and you kind of
pull me back on the right track, and I can't
come back all the way here because I'm just not
a fan of golf. I just can't see myself rooting
for golf or can't wait for the next golf major
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to watch the Major.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I credit Rory Michael.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I mean, you know, he had a heck of a
day yesterday and he's leading to two shots under. But
there's a good chance I won't even watch it. Maybe
at the antasy who gets the green jacket? Really, I
mean even that, even that ceremony is so antiquated. Think
about that, a green jacket. I mean, that's like eighteen
ninety think about it. I mean, come on, but again,
people love it and it's very stage.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's for older people, for older white people, ages sixty
and up, how's that? Could you agree to that?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
I mean, yeah, it's demographic, but it definitely, I mean,
it definitely isn't one that has been wide open like
basketball and football, like to fans of like all different
types and what he's talking about race, genders, socio economic types,
like whatever that is.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I mean, I think they've tried to make efforts to
populate the game differently, it just hasn't resonated in cart
And I'm saying this like Tiger Woods was a once
in a lifetime phenomenon that captivated the minds and the
imaginations of everybody. And part of it was his dominance,
which we either appreciate or we tuned in to hate.
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His flair wearing red shirts on Sundays, the way that
he was able to finish, to clutch performance, the mental
toughness that he displayed, and then just the skill level,
the wild ability that he displayed in his game. Sometimes
we want to be inspired by those who are so
much different than us, so much better than us, that
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we're amazed by what they're able to pull off. And
I think for Tiger, he had all of those things
and the ability to wow us with the shots, the
brilliance and all that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And so it's hard.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I mean, I mean, we've been through a handful of golfers,
whether it was David Duval back in the day to
Scotti Scheffer. Now, like all these guys are super talented,
these guys are dominant, they're great. They're just us missing
that X factor that Tiger Woods had that captivated us.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
And I'll say this, what Tiger Woods for golf, what
he did for golf, is very similar to what the
Williams sisters did for tennis. Really, they took a tow
another level with a different kind of an individual doing
that and having a lot of success at it and
opening the doors for a lot of other people, maybe
more minorities hopefully. And you see that in tennis right now.
You do see a little more minorities. So it's wonderful,
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it is, and it's great. The timing was perfect. But
we may never see another Tiger Woods again, or anybody
of that skill set again in the game of in
the game of golf. We may never see it again.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
No, I mean, and that's why we we need to
appreciate sometimes, we need to appreciate.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Those guys when we have them. You know, it's very similar.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
So when we talk about basketball, then you know, some
of this has been it's a self created thing that
happened in sports media. But like the Lebron factor, you know,
we may not see another player that is like Lebron
in our lifetime.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
And we spent the bulk of his twenty two year.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Career like debating and hating and going back and forth
on who's the greatest, who's not as opposed to appreciate it,
And then when he's gone, we're gonna miss him, and
we're gonna miss Steph Curry and Kevin Durant and some
of these generational stars that we spend a lot of
time worrying about barbershop debates that have prevented us from
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fully appreciating how great they are.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You know, it's funny. He's putting in over thirty a game,
and I think about a week or two ago he
missed like a shot at the end of the game,
missed a buzzer show whatever. Maybe hurt people complaining. Do
you realize, take a step back, take a breath. This guy,
Lebron James is forty years of age. If the people
in America who are forty years of age can't bend
down and see their shoes. Really, they can't get out
of bed forty years of age to run like he
does every single night on a basketball court. And they
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get down on the guy because he's taken a night
off because Zychel Hurtz, Are you kidding? Forty years of age?
You know, guys can't shovel snow at forty years of age?
Really amazing, it's really, this guy's forty years old playing basketball.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Go down to a park, any public park.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You ever see a guy forty years of age down
at the park playing basketball.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I don't think so really, And if we do, it's
not a pretty say and it's not five three.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
On three exactly, or playing horse. That's what he's doing.
He's playing horse.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
But you know what, it's funny because you know, people
behind this microphone have what I call like beer muscles.
They get crazy, they go nuts, and maybe that's what
I did this morning with the masses, but I had
to get it off my chest. But the point is
that everybody behind this microphone they think they were a scout,
they think they were pro personnel director. I hear guys
behind the microphone saying, Oh, this guy doesn't have speed,
this guy can't throw the foot. Well, no, no, If
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you're that good in aligning talent, then work for a
pro team. Don't be in sports talk radio. Sports talk
radio to me and maybe on Wolf Base, you're like
a newspaper columnist behind the microphone.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's what sports talk radio is.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Have an opinion. That's what you do, Okay, And this
is what I relate to. I relate to this. I
relate to. Howie Roseman, the general manager vice president of
the Philadelphia Eagles, said this, This.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Is what people should be talking about, not the masters.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Okay. He says, we will not even scout players who
have been violent against women. This is wonderful. The Commission
of Football won't even say this. I'm quoting Howie Roseman
right now quote, I won't even watch them. It's just
a deal breaker for us. He did ten years ago
when he learned from it. It just doesn't work for us.
That's beautiful. Really, Roger Goodell, take a page out of
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Howie Roseman. That's what you should do. The public would
love that, don't you think.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, But I think that goes above how he rose
That is something that is set by the ownership group.
The ownership group typically sits down with the general manager,
the head coach, or the leaders of the organization and
they say, hey, here's the things that we stand for. Here,
our core values, here, the type of guys that we
want in the program. Hear the non negotiables in terms
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of what we won't tolerate, what we won't deal with,
and then it's on the general managers and stuff to
take that and make sure that they're here to those
standards and expectations. When I used to work for the
Carolin On of Panthers, Jerry Richardson had similar things that
he was saying, Hey, we won't take guys who.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Are involved in X, Y and Z.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
And because of that, when we were scouting, we knew
that if these players, these prospects had those things in
their background, allegations, convictions, instances, the transgressions, boom, they were
off the board and it was very clear, it was
very cut and dried, like, those are the things that
we will not get involved in. And so Howie Roseman
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where he established it, whether jeffre Lewry establishment, that's what
you do when you're a great organization like you set
standards and expectations and all those things, and everyone clearly
understands what the lines are and they make sure they
don't violate those terms.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
You know, that's why you're so smart.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I had never thought that, because I don't think Howie
Roseman or any other general manager can go out and
make a policy statement for a ball club without approval
for management. Really, and I never had thought about that.
You know, it makes Howie Roseman looked like a genius. Oh,
we love how he roseve. No, it wasn't him. Management
was taking his their their I guess philosophy to the public,
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so he was like the mouthpiece for them. You're right,
that's basically it. But what about former Texas so wide
receiver an NFL draft prospect, Isaiah Bond. He turned himself
in on an outstanding sexual assault warrant on Thursday. I
get what Howie Roseman and the Eagles is saying, but
I'm not so certain the public cares. You know, what
do you think about that? Does the public care if
a guy is just a great football player but it's
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got a rap sheet against him? I mean to me,
I don't really care if he could play, And I
think everybody should be giving a second chance in life anyway,
unless unless he kills somebody, unless you shoot somebody and
kill him.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, I can't ride with you and Dad. I think
the public does care. I think the organization should care.
Character matters, and I'll say this like in working in
front offices, we talked about two forms of character. There
is your moral character, do you know right from wrong
what you're involved in? And then there's football character, which
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may involve work, ethic, toughness, things that are directly related
to playing the game at a high level and a
perfect world, what you would like to bring in are
good players who are also good people. And when players
are involved in things off the field, that matters because
it also shapes how people view your business if you
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have certain players on the team. And at the end
of the day, we can talk about football being good game,
but it is a billion dollar business and as an owner,
I want to make sure that I'm always taking care
of the brand. And when people talk about like nobody
being bigger than the program, that's what it means. No
player is bigger than the program, meaning I can't bring
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in a player, no matter how talented he is, if
his reputation, if his character if his image is going
to tarnish the bigger program, And so that's why it matters.
In Look, it'd be interesting the stuff that I've read
about Isaiah Bond's allegations in those things.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Look, man, it's unbecoming of.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Someone who you want on your team, and particularly when
you have violence against women in any form, Man, that's problematic.
And as we're seeing more women involved in ownership, as
we're seeing more women involved in front office, play, coaching
and those things, Yeah, it's not as easy to be
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dismissive of these type things because this person is going
to come into a program where he is going to
have to deal with women, women of authority, women that
are colleagues and peers and those things. You have to
make sure that this person is going to respect a peer,
a peer of the opposite sex.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Let's go back a time a little bit. When the
Cincinnati Bengals drafted Joe Mixon out of Oklahoma. This guy
had a rap sheet. He broke a girl's jewel, whatever
it was, okay, he broke the girl's jew So obviously
he would never be touched by the Philadelphia Eagles. And
I was shocked that the Cincinnati Bengals drafted him. But
he was lucky because he ended up in a city
like New York or Chicago or LA. I think he'd
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be drilled big time. They would have like women's groups
marching in front of the stadium in protesting. He came
to Cincinnati, he was a perfect citizen. There were no
problems and there was no panic or anything like that,
and it worked out well. But lucky for him, a
man like Mike Brown is a guy that gives people
second chances, and he drafted him and things worked out.
But I don't think he would have been drafted by
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many other ball clubs. He had a pretty big storyline
going against him coming out of college.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
One hundred percent. And that was a big Joe Mixon fan.
And I'm saying this as a big Joe Nixon fan,
having known people who knew him coming up.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
You know what I'm saying, Like his background come from
Antioch and those things, and they were thinking people that
would vouch for him. That's it. It's still a very
touchy and dicey issue. And going back, it not only
was Joe Mixon and the allegation, it was the visual
that was associated with the allegation that made it very,
very difficult for people to get around it. And to
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Joe Mixon's credit, he has been a model citizen, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
He did have.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
A few things that popped up around the city that
were unfounded, but yeah, it's those things, and so like,
you can't take a chance on a player who has
like a character concern, However, you got to deeply vet it.
You got to make sure that you can believe in
the player, and everyone in the organization has to stand
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up and handle the heat that comes along with the player. Now,
some people will talk about Howie Roseman and how Roseman's
statements about that, but also know and recognize, like, look
they took in Michael Vick when Michael Vick was viewed
as a pariah given his previous involvement and dog fighting
in those things. Think, ultimately, as I sit here and
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tell you about like branding and character in those things,
I would say, the greater the talent, the higher the tolerance.
So the more talented the player, the more tolerance you
may get given those instances and circumstances in those things.
And whether we can call it fair or not, that's
just kind of the American way, right. The American way
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is when someone is immensely talented, they may be forgiven
more so than those who don't have the same level
of talent. It's not fair, but that's just kind of
how it goes. And the same thing exists in the
NFL and other sports. If a player is super talented,
they may be given a couple of second chances, or
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a second or third chance to kind of right or
wrong while being able to participate.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Now, if I may, I want to ask you will
not this.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
It was Howie Roseman involved with the Eagles when Michael
Vick was there.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I think he had to be in the organization in
psych capacity because that was the Michael that was the
Andy Reid era. I know Roseman was maybe a part
of the organization at that time, not as a high
ranking sound but he may have been around it. But
regardless whether he was there or not, the organization stood
for that, and Jeffrey Lewie was the owner of the
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team during that time, so whatever it stood for then,
they continued to stand for now and the Michael Vick
situation was one where they were able to kind of
find a way to do it.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
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I want to wish everybody a happy Palm Sunday this
Sunday before Easter Sunday. And when I think of the
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word Palm Sunday, Bucky, I think of like they never
call palming the ball and basketball anymore. They don't call it.
I mean, I watch these games all the time. These
guys are turning the ball up, they're dribbling up to
their shoulder, and they never called palming the ball that
in three seconds are never called it anymore. But happy
Palm Sundays.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
There you go, Okay?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And next next next Sunday is Easter Sunday, the two
days people go to church today and next Sunday is true. Right,
But it's gonna be rough this year because there won't
be many Easter egg hunts because the price of eggs
are gone up so high. Really, so I'm gonna see
a big, big backlog on Easter egg hunts next Sunday
for Easter Sunday, Right, you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Uh? Yeah, it's gonna be a different It certainly would
be different.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Like you don't have the time to waste on Easter
eggs like you would at the past because they are
so expensive.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
It'd be more of a luxury to be able to
use them now.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
And you know who could help us buy some Easter
eggs this year? Joe Flacco. At forty years of age,
he was signed to a one year deal for four
mil by the Cleveland Browns. Now, I'd had a good move,
a bad move or desperation move, that's what I think
it is. I mean, maybe it was a move to
kind of put a little fire on the Deshaun Watson's
rear end.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I don't I don't know if they're factoring Deshaun Watson
in the plans, but his achilles injury and those things,
he's not slated to come back until mid to late
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
At this point.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
What it does, it tells me is Joe Flacco and
Kenny Pickett are going to battle out to be the
starting quarterback, and Joe Flacco is probably going to win
the job. Joe Flacco had a lot of success in
Cleveland previously, was in NFL Comeback Player of the Year
in leading the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs, and then
they didn't bring him back because they didn't want to
create this competition or they wanted to make sure that
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they protected Deshaun Watson's insecurities. If Joe Flacco's in the room,
well now all the gloves are off. Jimmy Haslam admitted
that they made a mistake when they brought in Deshaun Wasson.
KM Stefanski and Andrew Berry are in kind of win
nail mode, and it makes sense for them to go
and get Joe Flacco because it frees them up to
be able to draft the best player available at number two.
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And we can presume that it's going to be Travis Hunter.
To me, yeah, Deshaun Watson is a not a factor
in the scenario in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Wow. All.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You know, when they signed Joe Flacco, I remember two
years ago they brought him moll off the couch. You know,
it proves to me, maybe enough to be in shape
to play football. I don't know, but maybe in a quarterback.
I just don't know them. When they signed him just
the other day, you know, and he was a first
round in two thousand and eight by the Baltimore Ravens,
I wanted to see his stats, all right, this guy
has thrown for over forty five thousand yards and two
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hundred and fifty seven touchdowns. I mean, seventeen years in
the National Football League. An MVP is Super Bowl XLV
one one when the Ravens beat the forty nine ers.
So you know, I said, you know, I always thought
he was sort of like a journeyman.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
This guy could play.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I mean really, because I just remember when they brought
him off the couch two years ago and it just
came and he did well. He really did so with
no preseason working out or whatever it may be What
does that tell you at forty years of age you
can get it done to Look, he's not Lebron James,
who's forty. I mean, it's a lot more athleticism in
the NBA than the NFL as far as quarterbacks concern.
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But still at all he could throw.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, he absolutely can throw.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
And he's one of the original quarterbacks that better themselves
to turn a modest contract or offer into a megabucks contract.
He did that that season he led to Baltimore Ravens
to a super Bowl because he bettered himself and he delivered,
and others like Dak Prescott had benefited from being able
to better themselves and deliver and make big money. For
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Joe Flacco, he has always been someone when played in
the offense at his vertical base, he's crushed it. When
he had Gary Kubiak as it's coordinated with the Baltimore Ravens,
those were his best years. When he has teamed up
with other guys that have really freed him to push
the ball down the field, he's been at his best.
Kevin Stefanski's system really works well for what Joe Flacco
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does really well. This is a good move for the Browns,
and I would say an even better move than the
move that people expected them to make for Kirk Cousins.
To me, Joe Flacco at this stage of his career,
it's still a much better player than Kirk Cousins. And
in a one in a one year scenario where you're
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just trying to get this team kind of up and
running in the mix to buy yourself time, I understand
what Kevin Stefanski made the move and why the Cleveland
Browns opted for Joe Flacco over anybody else on the market.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
This is a statistic that if I'm with the Cleveland Browns,
I bury. I don't want anybody to know about it,
but I'm gonna let you know because it's an embarrassment.
It really is. Joe Flacco is one of the three
quarterbacks that has a winning record with the Browns since
they return to Cleveland. The other two Brian Hoyer and
case Keenum. That is pathetic. That's pathetic, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Really? I didn't think they were that bad.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Really, Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I would
call it pathetic, Andy, I mean, it's just a reality,
like they have not been a good franchise. They've not
been a good team and the quarterback play has been
an issue. And when you look at what they've finally
been able to do with Joe Flacco, it makes sense
to bring him back.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
They have not had quarterbacks who've been able.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
To kind of understand what it is to be effective
in the dog pound. Joe Flacco is one of those,
and we'll see if he can turn back the clock
one time at one more time at forty. But I understand,
I understand the logic behind the move.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
So that's why I can kind of I can go
with this. I can go with this. If I'm a
Browns Yan, I should be able to support this as.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
A Browns with Jimmy Haslam is the owner of the Browns.
He's the guy that I guess he signed the paychecks.
His name is under paycheck. He went public the other
day and he said that Deshaun Watson was a failed gamble, right,
and it's got to really hurt him in the wall
because he showed out Mega Bucks to sign this guy
and it kind of opened up the door for the
quarterbacks getting big time money. Really, a quarterback should thank
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Jimmy Haslim. But you know when he did that and
then I guess with the signing of Joe Flacco, all
of a sudden, I mean, Watson goes public.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
You know.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
He says that although the brown says could be very unlikely,
he could take another snap of Cleveland. And he's only
played in nineteen games since the Brown's got him in
exchange for those three first round picks in twenty twenty two.
But he came back on social media. He says, your
best performance comes from your back is against the wall.
This is what he says. You don't have anything to lose,
and I feel that's where I'm in right now. You know,
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everybody's doubting me. Everyone don't believe in me. Everyone don't
think that I can get back to where I was.
But I know and I believe. I don't know, you know,
I belie great to say.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, all of that is great, but over the past
four years, we have little evidence to back that up.
And people are talking about the Cleveland years. But here's
what I'll say. The demise in the fall of Deshaun
Watson happened when he, I guess, did a holdout hold
in for the Houston Texas and wanted to be traded,
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so he didn't play that year, he got suspended for
ten games. The following year he got hurt and miss
time the year after that, and then he's been hurt.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
So he hasn't been around.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
But four years is a lifetime in the NFL. Understand this,
and they talk about the average NFL career being three
and a half years on average, but the majority of
people don't play longer than a year or two. So
he literally missed an NFL lifetime being good way due
to hold out, suspension and injuries. To think that after
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a four year I won't call it sabbatical, but a
four year journey in which you didn't play a lot,
that you're going to miraculously come back and be a better.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Player, it is a long shot at best.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
And so the only thing that you can do as
an executive, if you're the Browns man, you got to
live in reality. And the reality is since Deshaun Watson
has been with the Browns, he has not played well.
And if you think anything is going to change, it's lunacy,
just because you have to deal in a fact based world.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
The fact suggests.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
That he has not played well in Cleveland and it's
unlikely for him to turn it around. In that environment,
in that scheme, in those things, so he can talk
about it, but we'll see.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
You know, it's kind of strange. He came out and
said this and continuing what he has to say, unquoting,
I'm prepared, he said, And I think before I wasn't prepared.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
You know what, I guess when he got the money.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That is.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Crazy. That is crazy.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
If he said that he was not prepared and I'm
sorry I cut you off before it didn't say anything
else about did he say anything else about the preparation
and why he wasn't prepared previously?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And I think before I was to be paid because
I was kind of going with the flow of how
the world was seeing me. But when you kind of
get knocked down to the ground, you got to stand
back and walk through the rain. That brings out another fire,
another challenge, another grit that you have inside you, my mentality,
the things that I got to dig with on the outside.
I'm not taking everything personal like I did before.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Whatever that means I mean now I've said this, And
for disclosure, I knowic Sean a little bit. I've known
him since he was in high school. I worked on
the lead eleven when he came through. I talked to
him a few times after that or whatever. Can't say
that we're best friends or there's a mental relationship, but
I know, I know the kid. I known him at
his best, and I always knew that when he was
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going through this. He's always been the hometown hero. He's
always been celebrated, he's always been lifted up. There were
people that really loved his story, and the story that
he had coming up was a great one.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
The habitat for humility, living in these houses, coming back,
giving back, doing all these wonderful things. When he gets
caught up in this scander, the massage scandal too, which
is very similar to the Scandalda Justin Tucker's involved in,
and he's struggling and all of that stuff, it's the
first time that he was viewed in a negative light
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and different situation. But I would say same mentality when
Lebron James went from Cleveland to Miami and was vilified.
Lebron James had never been vilified prior to that point.
And some people love dealing with like, oh, I'm the villain. Cool,
I'll lean into that dark side, and that won't discourage me,
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it won't knock me down. In fact, I feed off
of that. Deshaun Watson is not one of those guys,
much like Lebron James isn't. Deshaun Watson fees off the
adoration of others, and when the world turned on him,
very very difficult for him to deal with it. Now,
that's not me knowing him and saying, oh, he told
me that. That's me looking at him and understanding his
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personality type.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
That's very, very difficult.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
It's very difficult for some people who have been heroes
to be the villain and to bounce back. And so
now to talk about like being better prepared for it,
it's hard.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
For me to believe that after four years you better
prepared for it.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
I'll have to see it. Who's to say it can happen,
but man, it's really unlikely. And when you say that
you weren't prepared, what it does is it makes people think, like,
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
You just had a.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Contract that rewards you like highest guaranteed, most guaranteed money
of any quarterback in the league, fully guaranteed deal that
people were dying to have NFL players get. And at
that point when you got the contract, you didn't feel
like you were prepared for whatever's about to take place
on or off the field. To me, man, that is
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even crazier for him to suggest and say that. And
so even though he's saying like, oh, I'm better prepared
to deal with it, I think people will look at
it and be like, well, why weren't you prepared.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
To deal with it before you knew it was coming?
You had three years to deal with it. Why weren't
you prepared to deal with it before?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Like, to me, that is that is kind of crazy
and a blinking light if I'm someone that either is
intrigued by him or wanna want to bring a man
potentially down the line.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
When I reach stuff like that, I think of Marvin
Lewis the film a Bengals coach. He always said I
see better than I hear, so we'll see what he
could do.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
He's Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
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Speaker 1 (37:30):
Where were you, Bucket? You're not going to be there?
How come you're not there?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I Am going to be handling draft coverage for NFL
Network from our LA studios. Those who are on the app,
they have NFL Plus Fast Channel. Those things. I'll be
doing the coverage for that. But I'll be in LA
not in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I'll be watching you. Okay, now let's do it a
little bit. Ask Bucky right now, your pick Page Beckers
or Caitlin Clark. Which one is yours?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Ooh, that's a tough one. I still will go Kayln
Clark over Page Beckers. But I will say this, Page
Beckers is the real deal. She was the real deal
coming out. She's bounced back from the University of an
acl to continue to be that girl. But Kaitlin Clark
was so dynamic, so special at IOWA and even our
first year in the WNBA.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm still gonna rock with double C.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
All right, I'm gonna stick with women's basketball here because
I've seen South Carolina women's basketball coach Doing Stanley drop
an F bomb during the game. I want your thoughts
on coaches, be that men or women, at least in
a college game, using profanity.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
It happens.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I try not to use spicy language when it comes
to coaching people, but I don't really use it a
lot in my personal life. Look, it happens, and I
think sometimes in coaching, like your frustration can make it
where that's the only way that you can communicate. I
just think you have to just be careful how you
directed at players. But I'm not opposed to a coach
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using bad language.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Sometimes it just happens.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Did the coaching staff for the North Carolina used profanity
during practicing times?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Coach coach realn was not I believe in that he'd
believing curse and he didn't believe.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
It even yelling at players.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
So I kind of grew up in that environment, and
that would be the environment that I would like to.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Try and recreate when I'm around young people.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
But look, sometimes it happens. I'm not saying that that
weighs the right way. Sometimes people need a harder coaching
environment to succeed.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Okay, this year's final four nc Double A men had
all number ones, no so close Cinderella teams. Is this
the future right now of NCAA basketball.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yes, Unfortunately it's the Yes.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
March madness won't be madness anymore because what has happened
within the top levels.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
They're even the mid majors in there kind of like.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Feeder programs for the bigs, and so you're not going
to see the big programs that don't have the ammunition
to fend off the little guys. I think maybe an
occasional upset in the first round, but from here on out,
it's always going to be the top seas in men
and women because that's what turn inspired this year.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, and I don't have a problem with that. Really
was great, Really was or He's Bucky Brooks and Andy
Furman and the Superpowers according to Bucky Brooks and so
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Speaker 1 (40:22):
Fox Sports Sunday coming up next.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
You know, we're talking the same league as Superman and Batman.
That's all coming up next. Good morning, everybody. This is
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Speaker 3 (40:35):
Ready.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
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tire buying should be here. He is Bucky Brooks. He
want to see him on TV. They'll be doing the
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draft next week. I can't wait. You got special outfit
the way have to wear special outfits at tuxedo or
something and that.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
No no, no, no, no no, no, I'm not getting drafted,
so I'm just I'm just talking about the players who
are getting drafted. So it won't require any special outfits.
We're just suited and booted. Keep this kind of simple,
but it should be fun.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
You know, I wondered for years during the NFL Draft,
where these guys, these athletes, these college athletes that are like,
couldn't have enough money to get a pizza pie. You know,
we'll get these clothing outfits for the draft. Now, I
understand the anil moneys coming in, but where in the
past did they get these guys coming out with suits?
I mean like may to order suits. I mean, how
do they get those with the clothing owners that they
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would wear to the draft? Are unreal?
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Really, I would say that.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
So, so what normally happens, as you like back in
the day, So after the thing, you give it an agent,
your agent and all that stuff takes care of a
bunch of different stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
You may obtain a line of credit.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
But what typically happens when it comes to the guys
getting for the draft. You have various clothiers who want
your business because it's a showcase for their products, and
there will be not where you have to pay for it.
But hey, if you do this, we will give you.
We'll give you a suit, will give you accessories that
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you can rent for the night and all of that.
You just make sure you shout us out, you post
us on Instagram. You do all this other stuff so
we can get the attention and others will come to
us to get suits in gear because they've seen you
shine on the brightest stage.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
That's how it would work. Sometimes these guys wouldn't pay
for all of this stuff that you see, and.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
The jewelers would do it. Much like the Oscars or
the Grammys. When you see your favorite celebrities in outfice,
it's the same a lot of it's the same stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
I knew you'd have the answer. I mean, that's why
it is. I never put you on the spot because
you have the answer to everything. There you go. I
got my last comments here on the Masters because it's
really bugging me and I'm going to say it, and
that's the end of it. Close the door. It's an
elitist situation. It's not relatable to the general public. It's
very selective. And I think that golf to me as
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a recreation out of sport That's all I have to
say in that if anybody doubts me or has a problem.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I'm here. I'm here, I'm not hiding. I am here.
And Bucky you agreed to some extent that it is elitist.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Then the general public is the republic at large really
did not relate to the Masters or golf in general.
Sorry that they related to the game when Tiger was there,
Tiger brought a whole new audience to golf.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
He's gone, and so is that audience.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Sorry. I want to see what the ratings for the
Masters will be this year on CBS. I don't think
they'll be as strong as they were when Tiger played.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
No, they won't be. And now some of that is
just relatability. Some of that is as you talk about,
you call it elitists. I would say accessibility, because it
does cost money to buy the equipment and to for
the casual fan, for the kid, the aspiring kid, Like
it doesn't have you gotta have money to get the equipment.
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It takes money to be able to go and play around.
Even though I will say this like there are a
lot of municipal courses, a lot of public courses that
are in these areas, you still have to have the
money to pay the fees to go participate and play.
And the final part of it is people are typically
inspired by people that look like them.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
And when you're looking at the game and you look
at it on.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
TV, do I see people that I can relate to,
people that look like me, that come from my background,
that can inspire me today take a chance and do
these things. Other sports are more relatable because there there
are more people that casuals can relate to, and so
that inspires them to go pick up back.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Do you agree with it? More people relate to John
Laurant than they do to Rory McElroy, even though as
a clown.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Do and there's there's no disrespect to Rory McElroy. But
I would say that.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
There are too few people that can appeal to the
masses that would fall in love with Jah Morant than
those that then on the golf course. There's not a
Jamarant presence on the golf course right now, and it
requires more than one. They have to be multiple because
some of the people that like Jah Morant are fine,
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but they may not like it.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
Anthony Verwards and some of the people that like Anthony.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Edwards can't relate to Ja Morant or Trey Young or
any of these other things. But there's so many different
guys that you can get behind. Golf doesn't present that
kind of stuff. And look, I would say golf suffers
from that. Baseball in a little way suffers from that
from not necessarily a race based thing, but from American players.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
We grew up.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
There were more American players, American black players. You don't
see that as much in baseball now, and so they
see Dominicans and Venezuelans and various Latinos.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
It's still not and they can't speak English. Yeah, I mean,
he could be a superstar on baseball. He learned to
speak English season, but it's still broken English.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
And you know a lot of people don't want to
relate to him because they quote say, he's not one
of us, right, I mean that's that, and maybe that
hurts baseball.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I haven't done a study, but yeah, what helps the
NBA is that you follow a kid playing basketball in
college and then he goes to the NBA, you'll see
how he'll do. You can't follow a kid in the
in the Dominican or you can't follow a kid in
college baseball. No one really follows college baseball. They really
don't maybe for the college World Series and that's basically it.
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But but but you're right. I mean that's just the
way it is. I mean, look, I think this should
be what if there was trash talking and golf will
be big if Rory McIlroy started trash talking right now,
you know, with with the with the competition there, and
they'd be big. I mean, people like that against the
d Do Shiambo if he was talking against him like
he ain't gonna beat me.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
People love that. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Me Like, yeah, some of that is true. And I
am one who loves rules and etiquette in those things.
But some people don't like that. And so the the
unwritten rules, the etiquette things that transferring golf and some
of the unwritten rules that show up in baseball. Yet,
like some of those things can impact it. But I
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truly believe when it comes to golf, it is the
related ability of the casual fans. Can the casual fan
relate to the players that are on the leader board.
Is there someone that I can look at and say, oh,
he's kind of like me. I can get behind him.
I'm on that team. I can go do those things.
And golf also has to want to open up the
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floodgates and have a different fan base embrace it. Right now,
evidently on the bottom line, it hasn't impacted it enough
where they.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Need to solicit more people, get.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
More eyeballs on it. But at some point you're going
to need more people, like a more diverse fan base,
for the game to continue to grow and grow at
the rate that you needed to grow to keep up
with football and some of the other sports.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
You go to an airport today and you see Rory
McElroy looking to get his bags, and you see Steph
Curry over there. Where's the crowd's going to go through?
They wouldn't even know who Rory McElroy is. Maybe a handful,
but I promise you, but I will tell you this.
There won't be anybody of color going to Rory McElroy,
but they wouldn't relate to him.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
That's what I'm saying it.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
And I want to say it, and I don't want
I don't want to say like like of color because
I don't want to make it like a colorless deal
that like blacks can't relate to whites, and whites can't
relate the blacks and.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
Looking sport, they don't.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Yeah, and maybe perhaps in that sport, yes, but that's
that's not like true because when you go to NBA games,
you see white kids with black players jerseys, and black
players can look up they will color.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
No, so I'm saying so and golf, you are right,
there is something to that.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
But I think it's even bigger than like racial stuff.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
I think some of it is like a socioeconomic thing.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
When it comes to accessibility.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
It's one thing for me to watch the Masters over
the course of the weekend. It's another thing to then
take that and be inspired and say, hey, I want
to go to the course on Monday. Mammy, can you
drop me off at the course?
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Well? What does that require? Hey, it's going to take
you thirty five dollars to play around? Do you have
the equipment?
Speaker 4 (49:30):
Oh, let's go to Dix and see if we can
find you some starter clubs. Like it's different, whereas in
some of those other sports, all I need to do
is be able to go to Dicks and get a basketball. Okay,
basketball may cost me twenty dollars, But to say one time, investment,
parks are everywhere. It's all of that other stuff that
we'll do it and we can talk about other sports,
because soccer should be bigger in our country than it is,
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but accessibility prevents it from growing. And so if it
doesn't grow where I can play it, I'm definitely not
going to watch it with this passion and fervor. That's
where it kind of you lose the fandom because you've
got to be able to participate to want to follow it.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
And you're right, because there are certain sports that all
of a sudden, when they start, they mushroom, they go crazy,
and one of those sports right now is flag football.
I mean colleges across the country having female flag football
teams all over the place is catching on like wildfire,
and its being backed by the NFL. I think flag
football could be the next big thing. Could be leagues
in flag football.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
It is going to be the next big thing.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
I think coming out of the owners meetings, they talked
about finding multiple people that are willing to invest in
pro flag leagues. I would say this first firsthand. I've
watched it in my own my daughter. So my daughter
played flag football for the first time. She's a high
school senior. She played at her school for the first
time and she loved it. In California, it's been a
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sanctioned high school sport for two years and they had
state championships this year. Her school was good, she participated,
She fell in love with the sport. It allowed her
she played like linebacker, dB, stuff like that, but it
allowed her to take things that she played another sports,
soccer and track, and take those skills and apply them
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in the game. And what happened to me was eye
opening because after she played, she then said, Hey, I
need to find an NFL team to follow. So then
the Baltimore Ravens became her team and every Sunday I
would get textaus I'm with the Jags. I would get
text like, oh, I'm watching the game, Lamar Jackson, did X,
Y and Z.
Speaker 3 (51:36):
So what the NFL has done is they figured that
it's an.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
Entry way to create a bigger and more expansive fan
base if we support this, put girls in the game early,
tell them like, hey, this is great. We're going to
do so many things to have you have an opportunity.
Because all ball is football and flag tackle, it doesn't matter.
They've been able to expand their fandom because now girls
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participate in it.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
So what do they want to do on the weekends.
They want to watch it?
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Why because the watching it it inspires them to go
and do more stuff. It's a cycle. And because they
open it up and they I would say that you
can say a lot of things about the NFL. They're
marketing geniuses. They understand how to expand their brand, and
going to flag has only expanded the brand for them
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because now you have girls and boys watching it, and
they're going to continue to follow teams and buy merchandise
and all that other stuff.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
You know you talk about your daughter playing in high school.
I mean on the East Coast. Now they've got colleges
that have a division three leagues, and three schools in
New York City have flag football. Saint Joseph University in Brooklyn,
Long Island University in Brooklyn, and I think Wagner College
on Staten Island they have flag football. It's catching on.
It's big, it's big.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Yeah, it's big. And I'll say this at the collegiate level.
Speaker 4 (52:58):
In Aii, schools have offered women's scholarships to play. I
just looked up and Winston Salem State won the Flag
CIBA Championship. Their HBCU they won Flag Football Championship. Now
my daughter's going to the University of Texas in the fall,
and one of the things.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
She's like, I got to figure out how to continue
to play.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
I want to continue to play, whether that's club, whether
that's whatever.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
I want to play.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
And so everything that the league has intended when they
really stepped in and invested in the game at the
lower level, I'm seeing it happen in my own house
because it's created a passion. That passion turns into fandom.
That fandom turns into a lifetime of supporting the sport
that the sport.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Won't support it, So it all works together.
Speaker 4 (53:42):
So golf and those other sports have to make a
similar commitment to increase their fandom and passion to allow
people to really want to follow them and check it out.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Well, Sid, I'm speaking of the college A couple of
bitch and peaches I want to pick up and share
with you right now. But the NTAA Championship game last Monday,
I still think the Cougars Andvan Sampson they were the
better team. How they blew the lead the end, and
also also there was a no call goaltending against Florida
in the finals against Houston Monday night. I don't know
what happened. And Bill Rafferty is usually the guy who
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would say something about it. No one said anything. No
one brought that up. That was a goaltending call. And
I know you remember that, So that bugs me. It
really buzzs.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
I was pulling for Tho Googles badly.
Speaker 4 (54:22):
Yeah, I was pulling for him, and I was pulling
for him for a different way. I was pulling for
him as a coach. I love what Kevin Sampson Reps
represents when it comes to building culture and kind of
taking a line in the sand when it comes to
the type of players that they are bringing in, the
guys who have to buy into the team over their
individual and we're seeing the college landscape is changing. We've
seen the situation in Tennessee, which I'm sure we will
(54:44):
talk about later with the quarterback certainly putting his own
interests over that of the team.
Speaker 3 (54:49):
And we're seeing that. And so I was pulling for Houston.
Hard won.
Speaker 4 (54:53):
They knocked off Duke in the way in which they
knocked off Duke, Cooper Flagg the best player in the country,
hands down. They were able to knock it off because
their team concept eventually overwhelmed.
Speaker 3 (55:03):
Dude can wore them down at the end.
Speaker 4 (55:05):
Well, the thing about Houston and why they were kicked
themselves is the last four possessions that they had in
the game in the final ninety seconds, they turned the
ball on every possession. There was an opportunity for them
to take that lead up to five, and they turned
it over. And then they continue to turn it over.
So their execution or lack thereof, is what cost him.
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And that's one of the things that man, when you
were a coach and you lose, and you lose the
way in which they lost, the faulty execution, not being
able to get the shot up, they didn't get shots up,
make or miss.
Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah, for a three at the end, I mean, really
go and sign, but then you know that's neither here
nor there right now. But still I was shocked. They
went for a three at the end and didn't even
get the shot off.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
Didn't get a shot off, turned it over multiple times.
And it's the little things like they didn't set the
screen properly where you should have had an open shot.
So then the guy who came to contests, wouldn't discourage
the shot from being attempted.
Speaker 3 (56:04):
All of those things, just the little things.
Speaker 4 (56:06):
And we all know this, anyone who's played, anyone who's coached,
do you understand like it always comes down to the
little things. If you take care of the small things,
all things would work out in your favor. And they
just didn't do it. So it's heartbreaking for them, But
the hats off to Florida for coming back. They came
back multiple times throughout the tournament, the toughness they displayed.
Look the kid Clayton just being able to step his
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game up. And what we'll see is more of that.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
At that level.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
A guy who goes to Island there for a couple
of years, then makes his way up to the big
leagues in Florida leads them to a national title.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
We're gonna see more of that.
Speaker 4 (56:42):
And so the little guys are going to lose out
for now because the little guys are gonna become glorified
junior colleges where hey man, that's great that you played
there for two years, but as soon as you play
your two years and establish yourself.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
The big schools are going to get you out the poor.
That's just how it is.
Speaker 4 (56:57):
Until the system changes, we're gonna see more that it's
gonna just be the heavy weights that we see time
and time again participating in the championship browns of these tournaments,
whether it's the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 3 (57:08):
Or the n C Douable A March maintains that's what
we're gonna see.
Speaker 2 (57:11):
Am I mistaken though, that Todd Golden, the Florida coach
and the cal Florida gate has won at all. Wasn't
he a little bit of a hot water for its
kind of stalking girls on campus?
Speaker 1 (57:21):
Wasn't that?
Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (57:22):
That's I mean, there were some allegations right that were
that were that were against him when it came to
harassment and those things. And even though I think the
last time I rich those things were not true or
what they did an investigation that went nowhere. Yeah, it
was a bit of a cloud that hung around him,
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and so you couldn't fully celebrate him and his mastery
on the court because look, they had to deal with
it ordeal the entire season. I'll say this, like between
the lines, he's really great. He's a great coach. Like
how they played, what they were able to do they
went from me and bounced in the first round in
the title. Hats off to him for being able to
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uplift that program. But yeah, like the off field stuff
put a cloud over the championship and really prevented us
from fully celebrating him as a coach.
Speaker 3 (58:13):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Now you did mention something over here with the you
know kind of I ooner like the minor leagues. With
this portal action going on in college basketball right now?
Is it all about the money? I mean, in other words,
if I'm a player X at a school like Iona
and I'm looking to get out, does a kid go
because of the school that pays him the most?
Speaker 3 (58:32):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (58:32):
And how does it work? I mean an agent calls up, Well,
now they're so called general managers at the school. They
call the player and say, look, we're going to offer
you this amount you'll come play for us. Is that
how it works? Right now?
Speaker 3 (58:43):
Every kid has an agent. Now agents are shrewd and smart.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
They went from being able to represent players at the
NFL NBA level to now let me represent them at
a collegiate level for their NIL and by representing them
with their NRAL that now will eventually part layed to me,
being able to represent them fully as players when they
get to the point where they able to go to
the pros. What happens the agents or the middle people.
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Third party people are always contacting schools and sniffing around
and kind of seeing where the opportunities are. And general
managers certainly are aware of who's sniffing around and who's
doing what, and they can engage in those discussions to
set the table for when people want to make moves.
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This is something that has required all teams to get
a general manager. Because you're head coach, you can't imagine
Toime Iszo fielding phone calls in the middle of Elite
eight trying to figure out, like, hey, how to play
my top player while getting ready to participate for a game.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
That's why general managers are in needed.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
But I'll say this, Nick Saban was talking about football
when he said this, and some of it came from
the fact that a couple of years ago his team
was getting ready.
Speaker 3 (59:56):
To play Michigan and.
Speaker 4 (59:59):
Was that an It wasn't a national title game, it
was the Final four, and the week of leading into it,
rumors said that some people that come into his office
with some money demands while they're getting ready to play
the semi finals.
Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
And so as a coach, you're like, what are we
talking about here?
Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
We are we have the opportunity to win the biggest
thing that you can win as a team, and I
have players that I'm having to deal with when it
comes to money and opportunities and those things in the
middle of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
And we're seeing more people like that, And so I
understand coaches frustration, even though I would say that they
are speaking out both sides of their mouth. They don't
want the players to deal with it, but yet they're
also working on deals for themselves. The entire system, Yeah,
the entire system is whack when it comes to that,
and there needs to be some regulation on all of that,
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coaches and players. Because you had the guy at West
Virginia who I mean soon they whind him on about
not getting the tournament and it might not have even
been twenty four hours. He's a head coach at Indiana
and his son who didn't play, who got hurt early
but didn't play for the Mountaineers really this season as
a medical so he can go play with him in Indiana. Look,
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it's all shady in the landscape and environment until they
find a way to have some regulations.
Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Yeah, it's gonna.
Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
Drove us crazy as fans trying to keep up with
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
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right now we are live from the Tairaq dot com studios. Now,
let's get into something that you did on NFL dot com,
which I love your list. You talk about superpowers all right?
What exactly are you talking about? Superpowers? You guys?
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Could they fly?
Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I mean, have you done any of this? What is
this superpowers all about? I'm interested because the draft is
next week.
Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
In the scouting we're one of the things that you
look for when you're looking at all prospects is what
is the elite trade that this player presents that's going
to allow them to have a ton.
Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Of success in the league.
Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
And the blue chip players, the best of the best,
may have multiple superpowers. So when we think about like
our favorite superheroes, they always have something that distinguishes themn
and syts them apart from others. And when I'm looking
at guys, the first thing I'm looking for at tape
is like, man, what do they do better than anybody else? Like,
what is the one thing that you can do better
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than anybody else? That one thing can separate you from
others and it gives you an opportunity to be dominant.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
I learned a long time in going.
Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
To the league the league is really not about the
best players who have the most complete set of skills,
but it's the players who have an elite superpower that coaches.
Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Can build around and allow them to be great.
Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
And so the article kind of highlights some of the
things that I've seen and looking at the twenty twenty
five class and some of the players that we love
and celebrate.
Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
All Right, so now to me the best athlete in
the draft next week, The best player in football college
wise is Travis Hunter. Agreed, if I'm a personnel die
and I have the first pick. I'm picking this guy.
You know you talk about Kim Kimwood Miller, Kim Ward
to Kim Wharf Miami, Oh, Kim Wharf right, everybody saying
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he's the number one guy. Okay to me, Travis Hunt
is the number one guy, best player available.
Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
I he should pick him. But what is his superpower?
Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
I would say his superpower is just his ball skills.
I mean he is an elite ball catcher.
Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
You just don't find guys who and when we think
about balls, I want you to understand, ball skills are
not just how will they catch the ball? Is their
ability to track the ball, the ability to find the ball,
the ability to catch the ball in.
Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
A variety different ways utilizing their hands.
Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
And so, whether that's a ball that is relatively easy
to catch, but you see him snatch it and pluck
it without issue, if it's him in a crowd being
able to elevate over top of multiple defenders to.
Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Pull it down.
Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
It's him being able to take a ball that is
off target but make it an easy reception because he
can contort his body or display some acrobatics. That's what
he has and he has it on each side of
the ball where he displays. As a wide receiver, he
shows it all the time. But even as a dB,
his instincts, awareness and ability to catch the ball at
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various locations. Man, his ball skills are not I mean,
they're out of worldly. We can talk about elite, but
it's even a word beyond elite.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Okay, I'm not big on my drafts. Do you do
a lot of mock drafts?
Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
I do, But I think what gets lost in mock
drafts of this mock drafts are what you think others
are going to do, not what you would do. What
others are doing going to do a list of big
board top fives, this is how I see them, And
if you ask me who's the best, I always say,
(01:06:22):
look at my top fives, don't look at my mock drafts.
My mock drafts. I'm guessing what a team is going
to do based on what I know about the team,
how they get down, coaches and those things. Yeah, if
it's about list and me telling you who I think
are the best ones, that's what.
Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
My list is. I'm gonna tell you from top to pot.
Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
I like the list pedal I'm looking at a mock
draft right now. I just ripped this out. I think
it's from USA today, and they have obviously it's Tennessee, Cleveland,
the Giants, and Patriots. They have the Patriots picking four,
picking Travis Hunter. Why he goes out to fourth, I
don't know. I understand that the Patriots need help in
both areas, which is cornerback and of course they need
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help as reach, so he wants to play both. So
I guess that's a perfect fit for the Patriots. But
why would he fall? I mean, I'm saying full falled down.
The four Giants wild pick three. They need a quarterback
and they got your door standers going there. Cleveland Browns,
they're going for the edge. They're going for Abdual Carter,
Penn State guys. Looky, maybe now with Flackall, maybe they
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could afford to go with that edge guy.
Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Maybe, I don't know. And Titans going with cam Ward.
Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
Well, it depends. So there are a few different things
when we look about it. First, we have to separate
need from the players that are available. If you ask me,
when it comes down to the players that are available,
how many guys.
Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Are elite players?
Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Because the top five should be reserved for guys that
are elite players, the best of the best, like their
skills would put them at the top of the board
in any draft. To me, they're only a handful of
guys that I would put in that category. Abdu Carter
is one, Travis Hunter is another. I would say that
askting genty would qualify Tod Warren, the tie end from
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Penn State, and maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Jalen Walker from Georgia.
Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Those are the guys that are the elite prospects in
my mind.
Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
The other guys are really good, really good.
Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
But if I'm saying that those guys are the A pluses,
the guys that come beneath them are a's and a minuses.
Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
And there is a difference.
Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
And so that's why when you have a Travis Hunter,
teams have to debate, do I want to really really
elite prospect who may be in a position that is
not a market position or a position of need, or
would I'd rather have the quarterback because I need a quarterback.
And even though I don't believe that he's going to
be elite or a gold jacket guy, he's better than
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what we have, so we can take him and put
him in on the chief and those things.
Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
You have to make those kinds of decisions.
Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Is it business or is it to the ideal, Because
if it's to the ideal, then you're always gonna come
away better because you're going to take great players and
have a team for the great players, and then you
as a coach.
Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Have to figure out how to utilize those great players.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Okay, you got the superpowers right here, and you have
obviously Travis Hunt the number one, but you did have
Ashton Genty, the running back from Boise State, number two.
A couple of questions right here. If he's that great,
if he's such a super competition guy, and he has
all these superpowers, why then on this mock dreff that
I'm looking at, they have the Dallas Cowboys picking him
at twelve because they said, well, the Cowboys must have
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addressed a dwinning back position, so they get Genty. He
shouldn't last that long. He should be gone before then.
If he's that good, right.
Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
He shouldn't last that long. But here's where we've got.
Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
We've gone awry because we've gotten cute in the National
Football League because we've tried to out smart everybody. We
have these things where we talk about positional value, right,
there's certain positions on the field that matter more than
other positions. Those premium positions, as we call them, are
things that are centered around the passing game because it's
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a pass league.
Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
So on offense, that is.
Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
Your quarterback, your left tackle because that used to be
your best protector blindside, and then it is I would
say a playmaker, so that playmaker could spawn anywhere in
the backfield, so quarterback tied in running back, someone that's
a playmaker that can put points on the board. On defense,
your premium positions are your defensive ends. Your premium positions
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are your cornerbacks, and then one interior pass rusher like
d lineman, detackle or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
So in the draft, typically in the.
Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
First round, in the early rounds, you want to draft
a blue chip player at a premium position because if
I told you these are the market positions on the team,
you want an elite player in the market positions because
it gives your team an opportunity to be elite because
they got the best of the best, and to think
in the positions that impact the game the most. Where
it goes awry is when you try to put a
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good player can at a great position that's reserved for
great players because he plays at a marquee position, as
opposed to taking a great player who may be at
a non marquee position. Which is why in a mock
draft you can see Aston genty at twelve, because there
are people out here that don't.
Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Value the running back as a marquee position.
Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Wow, that's Will said, You know what.
Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
I would also think that maybe I watched him play
several times on TV, But is there a question because
of the conference he played in, not playing a top
notch competition.
Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
I mean, there is definitely some of that that is
going on. But what if I told you that la
Danian Thomason didn't play in a marquee conference, was taken
number five and became a Hall of famer, Marcia Fault
didn't play in a marquee conference, was taken early in
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the draft and became a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
I mean, I mean there are a ton.
Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Of exact amples of guys that can run the ball
that did not come out of like elite programs in
elite conferences that have been able to shine. Asking gent
last year at twenty six hundred yards, he was only man.
Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
I think he was only twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Five yards short of breaking Barry Sanders record for most
yards in the season, like most rushing yards in the season.
He had I think nineteen games with twenty plus carries,
nine games with thirty plus carries. So he's shown that
he has a competitive stamina to be the workhorse. He
is super explosive, like dynamic, great balance, body control, can
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run with power, can finish with the violence that.
Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
You love to see, but also has the home run
a building.
Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
I mean, there are not many things that he can do,
and so there are people have talked about it, and
I'll say this, the comparisons made between Ladania and Thompson
on the high side and Josh Jacobs on a low
side meaning ceiling is Latenian Thompson.
Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Floor is Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
If I tell you that we're talking about either a
Hall of Fame player or at a minimum in an
NFL rushing champion, why wouldn't you sign up to get
that player?
Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
That's how I view asked in genty.
Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
You know, I look at Astra denty and look at
his stats. He's five to eight, two eleven. He's got
a low center of gravity, which I think is great
for a running back. He's built like a shot put
he really is. I mean, and when you got those
strong legs and that low center of gravity, I think
that what makes him powerful. It really does. I mean,
I don't think a running back should be over six
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foot tall. I think the shorter the better because you're
like a barrel coming through that line.
Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
I mean, basically just what you're talking about. You talked
about a mussed.
Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Up, compact guy who has great balance. You talk about
low center and gravity, great balance, great footwork, explosive burst
size on him where he can run through contact in
the hole and right now will knock on wood. The
stamina to endure heavy workload, that's one of the things
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that I would say is most impressive. Some guys can
run that can have success, but it's a different animal
to run it twenty five to thirty times.
Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Andy, when you're.
Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
Touching the ball thirty times, like you know how tough
you have to be mentally and physically to endure that
kind of pounding over the course of the day. I mean,
you're talking about running between the tackles, putting your pads
on people, finishing runs off, run through the line, doing
it over and over again, just to get ready for
games and then in games to be able to take
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that to me.
Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
It's a testament to his toughness.
Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firma. Right now is time
for yay or nay. Okay, let's rack those brains, gentlemen.
Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
These stories need an answer.
Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
I think we need a ruling on this.
Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
It's yay or nay? Patty?
Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Are you ready?
Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Are you up? Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
I'm ready walking ladies to cars? Okay, Really, geez, you
got a job to do here.
Speaker 7 (01:16:06):
Well, you know what today is, guys, it is time
to play on this day the yay and nays and
I say, let's play. So continuing with the masters, talk here, guys,
yay or nay?
Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Baseball or golf?
Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Yeay or nay?
Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Andy Furman, I take baseball.
Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
I take anything over golf, really and truly, I take
my sanitation man picking up my garbage over golf, really
to see how fast they could lift up the garbage cans.
So I'm telling you right now, golf would put me
to sleep. It's an old man's game. It's it's a
it's elitist, and that's all I have to say about that.
Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Wow, I would take I would take baseball over over golf.
Just in terms of.
Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
The excitement level, there's nothing like playoff baseball. And so
the month of October, the run for the opportunity to
win the war seas to me it he sees anything
that golf can present, So give me baseball.
Speaker 7 (01:17:03):
All right, we're gonna continue with this one because I
got just I got another one for US Masters or
the NFL Draft.
Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Yeah, your name.
Speaker 7 (01:17:12):
If it's not the NFL Draft, I'm being very mad,
Bucky Brooks her Nay, that's precious.
Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Look, the NFL draft outrates the NBA basketball playoffs, so
I'm definitely gonna take that over golf. I mean, it's
choice a phenomenon that I look, it doesn't even really
make sense. It just shows you how much people are
willing to love the game that they would rather see
names picked off the board and rewatch highlights from a
(01:17:39):
previous season than watch an NBA game that's taking place.
Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
I'll go with step further. I'd rather go to the
NFL draft than go to the Masters. How's that lit alone? Watching?
Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
So how do you like that? Stick down in your.
Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Pipe and smoke it. Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:17:54):
Well, all right, final one of this Masters either or
Masters or the Final four yeay or nay?
Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
And what do you think? What do you think? Final
for even funnel for women. I'm not gonna say either
final four women or men.
Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
I don't care. Final four Division two.
Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
I'll go, Man, you are really poop pulling the Masters
right now.
Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
But I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
I'm gonna join you because I'm gonna go Final four
over the Masters. I can't say that I've watched. I
have watched some highlights. I've watched, man, maybe five minutes
of the Masters yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
I can't imagine watching.
Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
A lot of it outside of the last three holes today.
So yeah, but I watched the final four, and I
was riveted by what took place in the final four.
Speaker 7 (01:18:39):
All right, that was all right, that's all pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Masters are a wizinator.
Speaker 7 (01:18:44):
Okay, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
I'm kidding. O. Happy birthday. Your wator's gonna be in
the mail.
Speaker 7 (01:18:52):
I just want to throw that in there, just throw
you guys off. But no, that was not a real one.
This this one's real nice.
Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
So your age you may be needed winator. I might
need one at this point now.
Speaker 7 (01:19:02):
So so guys, the w NBH draft ticket prices will
increase and it'll be at the shed at Houston Yard
Houston Hudson Yards in New York City. It's ninety nine
dollars on Ticketmaster. Last year tickets were forty nine to
ninety nine. Yay or nay, Bucky Brooks, yay.
Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
That's good man, that's good. That's good for them.
Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
That means there's more interest in the league, despite all
of the controversy that is surrounded the league over the
last year or so. It does mean that there's an
uptick and amount of interest.
Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
And so I'm good. I'm good on that. That's great.
Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Oh screw that day. Anytime prices go up, it's a nay. Really,
prices for eggs gone up. I got a waffle house
so breakfast and they choked me fifty cents more up
because the exit gone up.
Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
I mean, really, come on.
Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Nay, Well I'm looking. I'm I've learned. So I didn't
even know there's a waffle house up in that area.
Like that's just good to know. Hell, yeah, good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
You'll visit me. I'll take you to waffle house.
Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Oh gosh, all that nang. It's like we have a
horse over here.
Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Oh man.
Speaker 7 (01:20:05):
But so next one we got MLS was tinkering with
the idea of moving their season from winter to fall
to fall to spring.
Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Yay or nay. Andy.
Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
You know what, I don't care where they moved. The
season is too long. It's ridiculous. I mean, come on,
do you start in February, end of October? It's nuts.
Start in May, that's what you do. Sorry, spring is.
Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Better for them, don't competigst NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
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Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
I tire buying, Big buck.
Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
I can't believe we're rolling right down the Highway of sports.
That's what we're doing. Our number three and I want
to talk about this. We haven't mentioned this yet, but
I think we got to mention it. My guy John Morant, Okay,
I mean, look, he got in trouble again, faming an
imaginary gun to celebrate three pointer is he's gone in
a different, make believe, violent way to mark a long
distance shot right now. He was fined seventy five grand
(01:21:23):
for that for mimicking that long gun after a basket.
Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
But a Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
In a game when they won one, they lost acts
he won forty one one twenty to Minnesota. He did
something else. He's gonna make believe. He was pulling a
pin and tossing a grenade in that game.
Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
I mean, as long as he's gonna get attention doing this,
they're gonna keep he's gonna keep on doing it. Really,
if you just ignore him, I think we'll stop. Maybe
I'm wrong, Who cares? Does anybody really care? Is a
kid gonna go to a game and watch him this,
do this and go on buy a grenade? I mean,
come on, I think.
Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
For all of it what it is like, and we
talked about it, and no matter how we try and.
Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
And parse out the words, athletes are role models.
Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
And what you're trying to do is you're trying to
make sure that we talk about the brand. You try
to make sure that the brand is littered with positive imagery,
not negative imagery, So when John Morant shoots to three
and pulls the gun out or pulls the pin on
the grenade, its negative imagy that's now associated with your game.
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And what it does is and watching young people. They
copy what they see on TV. And what the NBA
was trying to do is trying to be responsible to
prevent us from going to rec centers all over the
country where you have six year olds hidding threes and
pulling out fake ouzzies to mimic what it's taken. So
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that's what you're doing. So if you're Adam Silber, you're
trying to think about the greater good.
Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
I don't want little kids mimicking what Jah Moran is
doing after he has threes. It is in poor taste,
it's not a great portrayal, and it really diminishes the brand.
Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
I don't understand why Jah Morant does this. I don't
understand why he likes these violet images or why after
really dealing with a skin of four year and a
half he puts himself right back in it. I don't know,
but I know this, I know at some point we
talked about talent and tolerance. At some point his talent
(01:23:33):
doesn't equate to the tolerance and the grace that the
league has shown him.
Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Okay, Thursday night, in that loss, he was five or
thirteen for three point range, and he was covering as
he is after there's like a windmill hurl and the explosive,
the invisible explosive.
Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Here is my point.
Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
It's the job of a parent to monitor, not the NBA,
what a kid's gonna do right, Number one, Number two,
Adam Silver's got bigger problems than Jah Morant doing like
a fake grenade. You know, stop the three point goals.
That's what they got to still do altogether and control
that because the game is going down to cropper there
really is. I've seen some films of games of yesteryear,
(01:24:11):
when the Big O was playing, when Jerry West was playing.
They got this thing on HBO now called what Celtics Pride.
I think it's on Monday or Tuesday nights. I've been
watching that. The way these guys played like a team,
you don't see that anymore. Really. And they interviewed Bill Russell,
the late Bill Russell, May he rest in peace. He said, basically,
all we had was like seven basic plays. Sam Jones
was there, John Havlichik.
Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Dennis Johnson, I'm watching this. You don't have that today.
Maybe at times the Golden State Warriors play like that.
Other than that, I watched the Brooklyn Nets play is disgusting.
I'd rather go to a park and watch a game.
I really would. The New York Knicks disgusting.
Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Yeah, one guy taking twenty five threes. It's ridiculous. Really,
there's no bonus for that. Play the game of basketball
the way it should be played. And John Morett, you
want to do an explosive, go ahead and do it.
I will say this, If you're dumb enough to give
up seventy five grand for a stupid fine like that,
that that's on you. Because to me, if you will
to be a hero, I'll tell you what you do.
(01:25:07):
You take that seventy five thousand dollars, you write a
check and you feed the homeless in the city of Memphis.
That's what you do with the seventy five thousand. You
don't give it to the NBA, these homeless people who
sleeping in the street Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
Give them the money.
Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
Yeah, but what you have is you have.
Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
A talented but troubled player, a player who's been enabled.
Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
You talked about parenting.
Speaker 4 (01:25:30):
His dad is on the sideline while he's doing those gestures,
and it's never changed. And it is really unfortunate that
a player like him, who had an opportunity to be
the face of the league, prevents himself from me in
the face on his own doing like just because he
is fascinated by this life that he should not be
(01:25:52):
leading or that he's not involved in. He has really
hurt the brand, take money out of his pockets, and
really damaged the league.
Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
In a way.
Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
And we can talk about like ignoring him in the
gestures or whatever, but I understand why Adam Silver and
those guys are trying to do it. If David Stern
was a commissioner now, he would crush all of that
silliness like he would crush it, just like he did
with the dress code and all that other stuff, because
he knows how that impacts the bottom line. And sometimes
(01:26:24):
players don't recognize that sports are business, but man, we're
talking about a billion dollar business that John Morant is
basically in essence peeing on.
Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
That's what he's.
Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
Doing when he doesn't listen to what the commissioner and
what the rules are. He does that, but that's sometimes
where we are, where young people want to do these things.
They want to put the attention on themselves as opposed
to thinking about the greater good. But trusts the new
CBA has to be negotiated soon, and owners are going
(01:26:55):
to make the players really really feel the pinch because
whether it's the job stuff, whether it's low management or
sitting out or not doing all these other things like
disrespecting the game. Trust is gonna be a very contentious
negotiation because ownership is not going to continue to watch
this and watch how these actions tarnished the brand.
Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
You know, it's funny you mentioned David Stern. I heard
a story and I'm sure it's true when Alan Iverson
did not stand for a national anthem one time in
a game in Philadelphia. David Stern was watching the game
on TV. He called the spectrum at the time, and
he got a hold of him through some security guard
and they got him hooked up and they told Alan
arbusly's gonna be fine for that because he didn't stand
(01:27:37):
for the national anthem.
Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
That to me was so yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:27:40):
I mean, look, certain did not play. He understood the
bigger thing about the brand. And that's the one thing
that I will say about the National Football League. The
National Football League has built their model on team over player.
Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Like it's always about the team.
Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
It's not necessarily about the of late they tried to
make it about the quarterbacks or whatever, but make no mistake,
it's always about the teams. The NBA was built on
the backs of personalities and individual players magic and Bird
save today Michael Jordan. Then we got Covid and whatever player.
It's always been about the players, and those things where
(01:28:22):
the issue. When you have the players, the players are
empowered where they feel like they're bigger than the league
in some way, shape or form. The NBA has to
range some of that back in to allow the brand
to continue to grow. Because you talk about the product
being in the toilet. I don't see it as that,
but I do see where hard working fans can grow
(01:28:43):
tired of seeing the ceiling is done by these guys.
Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
I can see that. And even though they'll be referenced.
Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
As millionaires and the owners of billionaires, the public is
always going to hold the millionaires the players to a
higher standard than they hold.
Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
The owners, right because they don't know the owners, they
see the players.
Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
That's by the reason of being. And look, I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
I'm kind of a stretch here, but you're talking about brand,
and brand is so important. For example, if you work
at McDonald's, you know you get that hamburger on the
sesame seed bun. You can't put the hamburger on a bagel.
It doesn't work the way the brand is a sesame
seed bun. You cannot. You're not bigger than the brand.
That's the And I guess you're saying that, you know,
John Moranda is not bigger than the brand. The NBA
(01:29:27):
going to.
Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Grizzlies, you gotta follow the rules. I get it.
Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
You can't wear a different colored uniform because you're part
of the Grizzlies organization. You can't come out there in
a green uniform that's the Celtics. You gotta wear the
Grizzlies uniform.
Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Yes, and that's a big part of that.
Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
And I'm telling you though, but this is fostered at
lower levels. This is fostered at home. This is fostered
through like club teams and all this other stuff where
everyone is going for self. People aren't thinking about the
team and if you grow up an environment where everything
is about you and it's selfish and is this, Well,
(01:30:03):
when you come to the league, you're gonna be selfish
and make decisions that are just about you and not
about everybody else. And unfortunately, players are gonna learn the
hard way because it's impacting the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
People are not watching it. If you're not watching it.
Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
Then the money changes in terms of how much comes
into the league and how much revenue is split with
the players. All of these things they seem small individually,
but collectively they add up to a big deal. And
it's one of the things that when they do have
to kind of ratify or negotiate a new CBA, I
(01:30:39):
trust me, Ja Morant's gestures and all this other stuff
will be a part of the conversation because it's tarnishing
the brand.
Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Well, and you talk about brand, I mean I watched
the games on TV, and there was a time when
the teams would wear the same uniform in a sense
that they would wear the same sneaker. Right now, go away, Right,
We're always wearing cut black converse. That's what they would wear.
All right, that's back in the day. But now I
(01:31:06):
watch again the other day, each player's wearing a different
ones wearing Adidas, one waring Pumas, They're all wearing what
they do. They kind of deal with their own shoe company.
I don't think that's a good thing. I mean, it's great.
Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
Then I'm okay with them wearing their own shoe company,
but I'm a little more traditional. The shoe color bothers me,
like no, end Andy, and I get it. I know
everyone wants to be their own individual, but to me,
I felt like it was better. Let's talk about it
from a branding standpoint. When someone tunes in and they
(01:31:38):
look at the Boston Celtics and all their players have.
Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
On black shoes.
Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
You look at the Lakers and all their players have
on white shoes or whatever the color way they choose, Like,
hey man, pick whatever your team color is. And everyone
needs to do that because there's a uniformity to it.
Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
We have seen it. And then the.
Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
One thing the National Football League does is they do
not mess with the brand. They'll have a month where
they say, hey guys, y'all can get crazy with the
shoe color, right so in October, whether it's pink or
whether it's whatever, They'll let people get away with that stuff.
If it's mental health awareness week, they will do that.
(01:32:17):
But it's a uniform thing that the league says, oh
everybody this week, Hey, y'all can wear your pink stuff,
you can wear your purple stuff or whatever. But when
they kick off the regular season, you're not gonna see
that wild stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
They don't do that.
Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
They find people for that because they understand the brand. Look, nothing,
no one is bigger than the brand and the NFL
and particularly make sure everyone understands that at all times.
Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
So here's the million dollar question.
Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
How come the NFL could control that and the NBA can't.
Is it the players union strong or what?
Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
Well, it's different because when the NBA elected to make
their business model about the players, the players have more power.
When the NFL elected to always make it about the team,
the teams control it. They never let the players have
all of the power. That's why you don't hear about
(01:33:14):
the player empower movement empowerment movement in the NFL, because
the NFL is like, yeah, nah, we're about the team.
This is about the team. The business model is about
the team. They're squashing all of that. And if they
needed to have holdouts to make sure that they retained
the power. The NFL owners were willing to do that.
(01:33:35):
The players have more of the juice in the NBA.
But I think, look, man, at some point, if it
continues to go this route, there's gonna be a market
correction and the NBA is gonna try and see some
of some of that power back.
Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
I would hope. So basketball is a great game. I
love the game of basketball, but you have to admit,
right now, I think college basketball may be more popular
than the NBA, although that may change also with the
portal situation, because you really have a hard time following
your favorite team because these guys are leaving, leaving rosters
(01:34:08):
like free agents. It's the way. It's like the pros.
Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
Oh yeah, I mean it makes it hard to keep
up with. And you know the thing about that model
is that model needs to be corrected because you need oversight,
you need a clear set of rules so everyone can participate.
They're basically doing pro football or pro based basketball without regulation.
So you have that with no salary cap. So without
(01:34:32):
a salary cap, it's all willy nilly. It's not fair.
I mean, you don't just don't have any governess. Someone
has to be in charge of the system. There's no
one in charge of the system right.
Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Now, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
And I've been reading a lot about, you know, Rip Patino,
what he's done at Saint John's, and a lot of
coaches are following his footsteps in the sense that he
will not recruit a high school kid. He said, why
take a chance on trying to quote develop a player,
because he may not be there to develop. So they
go after guys from other colleges and they get him
in the portal and that's how they do it. They
(01:35:04):
didn't even going for junior college kids anymore. They're going
for portal players. They're not going for the four year
high school kid anymore because they're fearful of that kid
will never stay that four years.
Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
Well that makes sense because also like the model, and
I said, this man going back to like twenty fifteen,
sixteen seventeen, the older teams were winning when Kentucky and
Duke really championed the one and done era, Like it
was great, but you're not winning with a bunch of
eighteen and nineteen year olds against twenty three to twenty
four year old players. We saw that play out in
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the Final four Cooper Flag and Duke was the most
talented team in the field. There's no question when you
looked at them play all season, they're the most talented team.
But in a one game scenario with everything riding on it,
the age and the maturity, the physical development and overall
toughness of Houston wore down the Blue Devils and really
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impacted their best player, Cooper Flack, who's a terrific player
and prospect.
Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
But he's a kid playing against men.
Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
He's still a kid. He's still a kid.
Speaker 4 (01:36:08):
He's still eighteen nineteen playing and what is amounting to
a man's game. Yeah, it's not fair to him, It's
not fair to everybody else who's trying to play against
those older teams.
Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
It's gonna changed. It has to change, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
On Alner note that we talk about players what they've done.
Did you hear about Lebron James. He becomes the first
professional male athlete to have a likeness depicted in a
Ken Doll. When I read that, I thought about Bucky
Brooks with a Ken doll.
Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
I mean, I would love it. I'm not gonna be
mad at it.
Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
So here's what it says to me about Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
Love mahete him.
Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
He has crossover appeal, right, and there are a lot
of people that adore him for what he's been able
to do on the court. Like they talked about, this
year is only the second year in his lifetime, in
the second year in his NBA career, twenty two seasons
these average below twenty five points, and then he avers
twenty four point four points this year, and when everyone
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talked about, yeah, forty years of when everyone talks about
the debate, and I won't get into the goat debate
or whatever, but here's what I will say. And watching
Michael Jordan in the twilight of his career with the
Washington Wizards, the last season whatever, Michael Jordan could not
sustain a high level of play like Lebron has sustained
that final season. Lebron doesn't look like he's slowing down. Yeah,
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there's some little things that you see, but I remember
watching the end of Kobe's run. I remember watching the
end of MJ's run. Different look, different field. This dude
is committed to Sam Shaving being at his best, and
he's been able to do it.
Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
I will tell you this much.
Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
They talk about Lebron James and I hear these people
behind microphones talk about is he the goal, the comparison
to Michael Jordan. I hear about the Mount Rushmore of
the NBA. Anybody who does that lazy, that's the lazy
man's out. That's a lazy man's topic for a conversation
on the radio.
Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Do you agree.
Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
I agree you can't compare yesteryear to today because if you
ask me who the greatest player was of all time,
I'll tell you right now is Will Chamberlain. I think
Will Chamberlain was the greatest player ever of all what
he did fifty points a game, he averaged fifty a games,
scored one hundred and one game, led the league, and
assists one time. So don't even go that route and
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not to have Will Chamberlain amount the so called Mount Rushmore,
you're an idiot, really, And those people who talk about
all time players and goats do your homework. You know,
you can't talk about that list. You know the history
of the league, and most people don't. They go back
to Kobe and that's about it. That's what they did.
Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
That's about it.
Speaker 4 (01:38:44):
And I'll say this, you talk about Will Chamberlain, I
would say the most disrespected.
Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
Great player of all time is kareemam do what you bar?
Speaker 4 (01:38:53):
I agree not put enough respect on his name for
what he was able to do. Winn that championship in Milwaukee,
scored warships and let at one point being the all
time leading scorer, and creating a shot or mastering a
shot that was an unstoppable shot. He does not get
enough credit for what he was able to do. When
you're right, people need to get beyond this latest generation,
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this Michael Jordan era back and really appreciate the players
been there. I would say this, the NBA is probably
its own worst enemy because it's players often criticized its
own players, and they diminished the accomplishments of their predecessors.
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When they talk about, like JJ Redick may have uttered
when he was in media, that they're playing against plumbers
and electricians in those things, you are disrespecting the legacy
of guys like Bob Coosey and Jerry West and Russell.
You talked about Wilt and gild Rich and whoever. You're
disrespecting the legion of players. But there has to be
(01:39:59):
a reverence for the people that set the table before you.
And writing in the NBA they don't have that any
that that view of history.
Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
I was lucky enough to see Kareem Abdul Jabbar when
he was lu Al Sindor play in high school at
Powell Memorial High School in New York City which is
no longer that schools closed down gone, and every college
in the country wanted him to play there, and I
was hoping he got n YU coach Lewissini May he
rest in peace, and he was going to play for
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the Violess. NYU was home court with Madison Square Garden,
so he opted out and he ended up going to
UCLA and guess what happened. NYU dropped basketball there back
in the Division III. He would have saved New York
City college basketball. But he went out west. And I
get it, you know, and I'm I'm saying he got
money whatever, whatever he did. That's fun and he had
a great career. But I would have loved to see
him stay in New York City. But he got out
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and he went he went out west. That's what he did.
Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
Yeah, I mean, look, it's unfortunately sometimes you make decisions
that you maybe either regret or you do us best
for you at that time. But no, it would have
been great to have that, to set that up to
kind of spawn it. We talk about a grassroots, homegrown situation.
Speaker 3 (01:41:13):
That would have been an opportunity to come and do that.
Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
By the way, the Lebron James Kendall goes on sale
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(01:41:35):
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Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
Yeah, we'll go and get Lebron James Kendall. Yeah, I'll
work on it. Let's see if I can get it
before it says.
Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
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Now let's get into this. I want your thoughts right now.
Bucket Brooks on the nil name image like this, Is
it here to stay?
Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
If it's going to change? What changes?
Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
If anyone needed?
Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
Oh, it's here to stay because there's no putting the
genie back in the bottle. However, the things have to change.
You have to have some regulation. You have to figure
out how are we going to operate this to make
the the playing field level for all of the teams.
Revenue sharing gets coming into the mix. And so revenue
sharing where they're splitting the money in schools are directly
(01:44:10):
paying players based on the revenues and the percentages.
Speaker 3 (01:44:14):
In those things.
Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
But nil also has to be regulated. So how do
you manage all of those things to be able to
make sure that, look, it's a deal that is fair
for the players and the schools. At some point you're
gonna have to unionize and you have to have collectively
bargained agreements to make sure their level of protections for
both the team and the player.
Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
When we go forward.
Speaker 1 (01:44:38):
Okay, let's get it too.
Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
This story bro Now, University of Tennessee quarterback nico Ya
Lala Malava. He wanted a new contract and now obviously
he's leaving Tennessee. His agents, his agents has representatives asked
his deal to increase, get this to the four million
dollar range? Are you kidding me? Joe Floko's making four
million dollars now for the Cleveland Browns. He's a seventeen
year pro in the end NFL and this kid at
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the University of Tennessee wants.
Speaker 1 (01:45:03):
For a million.
Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
What is going on? It's craziness, isn't it. This is nuts?
And he's gone and right now I don't think any
other school's going to pay him. Thank goodness, Tennessee had
the hanging downs to say, get lost, we're not paying you.
Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Go away.
Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
Look I give Tennessee you talk about the hangy downs,
I give them credit for having the onions to be
like kick Rocks. And this was a challenging situation for
Tennessee because out California.
Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
I remember he was at Warren High School.
Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
He didn't play his senior year because Tennessee paid him
on a contract that was anywhere from eight to ten
million dollars, didn't play a senior year, made his way
out of Tennessee, enrolled early, has become the starting quarterback,
led him to a ten y three record last year,
and was in the midst of a deal that was
paying him two point four million dollars. They got greedy,
(01:45:57):
they wanted more cash, and Tennessee was like, no, we're good.
Nobody's bigger than the program. And Josh Heipel said this
at the presser. There have been a lot of great
players and coaches that have donned the power t and
there would be great players and coaches that will where
the power tea after I'm gone. And after several of
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these players are gone. Got to take a stare. Nico
was selfish his teammates doing, and if they agreed to
that deal and brought them back, it would erect the
chemistry of the team.
Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
He didn't go to practice this peace Friday, and yesterday
was the Orange and White spring game, so he sat
that out. Now he's gone. First of all, I get it,
you could ask for the moon. I mean, it doesn't
necessarily mean you're gonna get it. Who said he's worth
that kind of money initially? Number one? Number two, who's
paying this money? And number three? How do you control
something like this, Because if in fact they gave him
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the four million dollars, then everybody in that ball club's
going to go and they want more money as well.
It'll be a domino effect. It's not good. It's not
healthy for the sport. And I can see now instead
of players leaving early, big gonna state you could make
more money in college than you can maybe in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
Some instances, yes, you absolutely can. And we're seeing that
impacted draft. Excuse me, So we're seeing that impact to draft.
And the reason we're seeing it Day three, the later
round picks.
Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
What used to be. I wouldn't say like high level
talent that would be there.
Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
Some of those guys are now staying in school and
exhausting all of their eligibility, and because of that, the
draft doesn't have the depth that it had in the past,
when you had an influx of juniors that were coming
out looking to start their working life making money.
Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
In those things. Well, now I'm making money in college.
Speaker 4 (01:47:50):
Why there doesn't need to be a rush for me
to get there.
Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
I'm Carson Back.
Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
I'm making four million dollars if I'm drafted, depending on
what level.
Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
Draft, maybe make that, maybe I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
Well, I'm just gonna stay here and make this money
in college and continue to have fun and do all
the other stuff that you do as a college student.
A lot of people are making that, so it has
changed the business model, not only at the collegiate level,
but at the NFL level.
Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Okay, so now he's in the portal and apparently they
say his representatives reached out to other schools, including one
Oregon said sorry when not interested. So my question is
this was Oregon not interested because of his talent or
not interested because any want to pay him When he
was asking.
Speaker 3 (01:48:31):
Could be a combination of things.
Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
Colleges are now going to take the same approach to
NFL team's take. You have to fit not only schematically,
but you got to fit from a personality standpoint. If
Nico is already making two point four million dollars the
starting quarterback at Tennessee in the SEC, If in the
midst of this he's contacting another school to see if
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he can get a better deal, well, what is he
going to do when he gets to your school.
Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
He's gonna do the same thing. He's gonna try and
get more money. So he is.
Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
Look, he's not for long when it comes to wherever
he goes. He also is telling you he ain't really
a team player. He's a mercenary that's looking out for himself.
It is hard to win games at any level. It's
hard to win in college. Yeah, you can be superiorly talented,
but when you end up facing these like teams, the
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chemistry and the connectivity has to be there. He's already
showing you he's not about the team, and he's never
gonna be about the team. He's gonna be about the money,
and that is gonna be a problem when you're trying
to build a team, even an environment where everyone's getting paid,
even in the pros where everyone is getting paid. At
its essence, football is a team sport and everyone has
(01:49:51):
to be connected. And that connectivity has to extend beyond
the money that you make and any transactional things that
are agreed upon. It has to be a full commitment
to your teammates and your coaches.
Speaker 3 (01:50:04):
Nico's not committed. It's gonna be hard for him.
Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
He'll get paid, he'll get money, whatever, but you'll never
be what he could be because he's not wired the
right way.
Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
Yeah, and maybe that's his representative's fault. Maybe he's too
stupid to understand that. But you know, he had a
good year, there's no doubt about that. Tennessee went to
the college football playoffs. They finished ten and three. He
threw for over twenty six hundred yars, nineteen touchdowns and
only five picks, and completed almost sixty four percent of
his passes. But here's my question, how to fix this?
That's my deal. I want to fix this because I
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love college sports other sports in general, and this is
sports going down the tube. It really is. You want
to go in the portal, what you're in Now that's fine,
you go in the portal, get as much money as
you can, but you're gonna have to sit out a year.
Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
You know, maybe that'll stop it.
Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Because it not gonna day when back in the day
when you train, when you played, if you were going
to transfer, you'd have to sit out a year.
Speaker 3 (01:50:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:50:52):
But see, like I'm not for punishing players for getting
in the portal when we don't punish coaches for leaving.
So it can't be good for the goose and not
good for the game. They like, both things have to matter. Now,
if you are a team and we're talking about contracts
in those things, I think you then have to put
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like buyouts and those things into the contracts if you
have that. The other thing, and I tweeted this, but
I think people have to understand if we're now moving
into a full model where college football is basically minor
league pro football, it's not just the Nkos that are
now in danger of having their money pulled. It's the
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bottom of the roster guys, the guys who were brought
in recruited, but they're not living up to their recruiting stars.
They're not contributing as valuable players. Well, what you're gonna
start seeing you can start seeing people and players get cut.
You're gonna start seeing this act out just like it
does in NFL training camps. Hey, man, we get to
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the point, here's our roster.
Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
Hey, we wish you well, but we're gonna part ways
with you right now. We're gonna take the money back.
Speaker 4 (01:52:06):
We also gonna take away your opportunity to continue to
go to our school.
Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
So all of these.
Speaker 4 (01:52:12):
Players that are making these things to go chase money
and a higher level of education, those opportunities are gonna
be different now because this is the big leagues and
we're not gonna pay for you to get your degree
or whatever. So the pressure that players feel is going
to be different because not only do I have to
get it going quickly on the field, I got to
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start knocking out some of these credits so I can
at least leave here with a degree. And since the
overwhelming majority of players that are in the college game
do not play in the pros, man, you better be
on it with your p's and q's in terms of
your path to a better life.
Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
You better be on it when it comes to getting
your degree and all this other stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:52:54):
Because the opportunities are going to be different for you
now that we're going to a pro model.
Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
I want to put the brakes what you said for
one second, because you said it's going to be like
the pros, and they're gonna say, we're not going to
give your money. Now, here's the question I have. Do
the colleges actually give them money to the kid or
is it some benefactor or a booster cuts a deal
with a booster, Because I'm thinking, like the person who
put up the money for Nico right now is scratching
(01:53:19):
his head or banging his head against the wolf, saying,
what did I do? I paid for this kid to
come to Tennessee. Now he wants more money, but he's leaving.
I mean, amout the money. I'm not thinking like maybe
maybe Peyton Manning did it. He's a Tennessee grad. Maybe
he's putting up money to get kids to come in there,
and then I l I don't think the school's doing
it right. It's actual boosters and benefactors.
Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
Yeah, but I think everyone's connected.
Speaker 4 (01:53:40):
When you're dealing with the amount of money that we're
talking about, there's no one that's paying the players without
the team knowing. There's no one that's paying the players
at a certain dollar amount without the team saying hey
it's okay to green light him for four million dollars
like it is a It is a collective unit when
it comes to the decision makers and who's getting paid
(01:54:01):
and how much they're getting paid.
Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
So yeah, no, this is this is the pro model.
This is what we have when people talk about like
how much money Ohio State spent twenty million dollars they had,
that's the salary cap the players and coaches.
Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
When they from boosters.
Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
They got the money for it.
Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
They got it from boosters.
Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Yeah, they got boosters, and the boosters have things their
money to funnel it into Ohio State. Is that what
they do?
Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
Yeah, they funnel it into a collective and then collective
pays it out. But look, the collective likely pays it
out at the direction and the discretion of the coaching staff,
of the head coach, the general manager and those things.
But yeah, those moneies are not just loosely going to
all these guys. You don't have one booster just running
around looking up and down the roster saying, hey, I'm
(01:54:45):
gonna give him one hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
This got three hundred.
Speaker 4 (01:54:48):
Now the coach is police and control that because remember,
there are a lot of players on the team, and
if you're trying to keep the cohesion of the team,
everybody has to get something. You can't have some guys
making money and other guys not making money. Because now, Andy,
how am I going to in good conscience? Like, Man,
I'm doing the same workouts as Nico. I'm not getting
(01:55:12):
any money, but I'm supposed to block and protect him.
I'm supposed to run around and sacrifice my body to
catch his passes that our errant. And he's making four
million dollars driving a Bughatti and I'm over here with
no money in my Honda Accord that barely has hup
caps and will nah, it's not gonna work. So they
have to make it where everybody gets something, and then
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the elite players get the most, just like an NFL
locker room.
Speaker 3 (01:55:38):
But everybody has to get something.
Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
And that's why I say, like, this thing submits the
full transformation of college football to the pro pros. And
you're going to see people take pay cuts. You can
see people get cut. You're gonna see all of these
things put in there. And so now we know and
I've talked to coaches because everyone talks about like, oh
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what the transfer porter, you can't coach them hard.
Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
I think you can coach them harder now.
Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
Because now that I'm paying you, there's a level of
expectation of the things that you have to meet. So
what used to be optional you watching film, you comeing
to that, Hey, if you don't do this, I'm gonna
find you, just like I will find you in the pros.
I'm taking money out of your pocket if you don't
complete these tasks that we.
Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
Expect you to do. To me.
Speaker 4 (01:56:27):
It's cleared up a lot of the stuff that used
to be pyeing the stock, pieing the sky, idealistic stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
When it comes to the team.
Speaker 4 (01:56:35):
Oh no, the coaches that were hardcore, they can be
even harder because now I got you, I can control
you with the money that I pay.
Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
I had no idea. See now you woke me up
because I don't get paid here and you do.
Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
It's like you just woke me up. I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
I thought we did this for free. Wow, but keep
brooks Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
Get ready to point the playing game.
Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
It's freaking next. The blame game coming right up. It's
about nine minutes before the top of the hour. He's
Bucket Brooks and Andy Ferhman. Of course we're lying at
the ti rack dot com studios and speaking of nine
am Eastern, which is the top of the hour countdown
with Briano. What a trifecta brian O, Bill Krackenberger at
rich Olberger right there at nine o'clock right here on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
But right now it's time for the playing gate. Oh no,
it's your fault.
Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
What is all your fault?
Speaker 5 (01:57:35):
Maybe it's everyone's faults, the liar.
Speaker 8 (01:57:38):
That's why there's the blame game, the blame game. Let's
figure out who to blame. Yeah, Patty, who's gonna blame?
All right, Well, you're your fault, you know it's your fault. Andy,
I blame you for making me play this game.
Speaker 7 (01:57:53):
I'm kidding. I love this game. It's the blame game, everybody.
And where are we going?
Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
First?
Speaker 7 (01:57:58):
I'll tell you right now. He's coming next, Antonio Brown.
It's not ab We're talking Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
Guys.
Speaker 7 (01:58:04):
He has again been involved in another domestic dispute. The
report stated that Hill's mom in law said that Tyreek
was acting very aggressive and impulsive, claiming he threw laptop,
grabbed his wife and walked toward the balcony. High rise
Hoody blamem Andy Furman.
Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
I blame the media because he never touched her. He
never allegedly hit her. He yelled, Hey, people have arguments
all the time in fights. This was not a fight.
So what he threw the laptop. Maybe it didn't work,
I don't know. But the point is you have a
high profile athlete and people are out there trying to
pick on him.
Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
That's what they do.
Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
They're dealing with John Moran, now they're dealing with Tyreek Hill.
Back off, back off. It's his private life. He had
an argument.
Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
Bool.
Speaker 3 (01:58:49):
Yeah, it is his private life.
Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
But he's made his private life public by engaging in
some of the things out in public, and so people
will have an interest in him. And so now that
he's opened that up, he's op up Pandora's box.
Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
People are going weigh in.
Speaker 4 (01:59:02):
He has to make sure that he always watch his actions,
watch his behavior, because ultimately he is always going to
be held at a higher standard.
Speaker 3 (01:59:09):
And when you look at.
Speaker 4 (01:59:10):
The backstory of how he came into the league, and
some of the stuff that was in his background. It
makes sense that people are going at him about any argument,
any incident that he has with a female.
Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
All right, next one up, guys.
Speaker 7 (01:59:23):
Michael Malone, head coach of the Denver Nuggets, was fired
on the last week of the regular season. Who do
you blame, Bucky Brooks?
Speaker 4 (01:59:31):
I blame the ego that permeated throughout the Nuggets organization.
So Mike Malone and Calvin Booth could not get along.
They could not get on the same page. And while
they're preaching to the team to play as a team,
you have two of the leaders of the organization not
playing or not being good teammates. So I blame the
people up top, Calvin Booth and Mike Malone. Their ego
got in the way, and so now both are out
(01:59:53):
of a job because they couldn't get it together.
Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
It's rid thaniculous. I blame the organization. Was you have
a good man like Michael Malone, what heck of a
coach the week before the end of the season. That's ridiculous. Okay,
And I know Michael's daddy, Brendan Malone, hell of a coach.
Michael's a hell of a coach. Did a lot of
good things in Denver. Shame on you, Denver.
Speaker 7 (02:00:10):
All right, final say guys Alex Evaskin bro Gretzky's career
goals record last week? Why no more national news on
this super record?
Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
Who do you blame, Mandy? Because none was speak French.
That's why Florence.
Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
No one pays attention to hockey.
Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
So yeah,