Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks React To The First Week Of NFL Preseason, Shedeur Sanders Great Start, Caleb Williams Not Playing, Madden Ratings, And More!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. All right, to
play or not to play? That's the question. Next.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
All right, good morning everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday.
Hey's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, and you know what.
We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And
now let me introduce my guy because I gotta ask him.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
A big time question.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
The guy who's on radio, TV, coaching, personnel, scouting. He
does it all. Mister Bucky Brooks. Hello, Buck how are
you man?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
I'm great, I'm great, I'm great. I can't complain. How's
everything with you?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I couldn't wait to get to you today because I
got to ask you. I guess you were there in
Jacksonville yesterday when Cam Little made that seventh yard field
They'll tell me about it.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Were you there?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Not only was I there, I was on the call.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
So the holy smokes that you hear is yours, truly,
Fucky Brooks, who.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Couldn't believe what was going on.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
It is unbelievable to see someone attempt a field goal
from that distance because Andy, when you're sitting there, he's
kicking it from the other side of.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
The field like normally when you get the midfield.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
You talk about a long distance field goal, but to
kick it from the from the forty yard line like
your own forty yard line, to go the distance and
to nail it and not only barely squeak it through,
but to nail it with some distance.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
It was an unbelievable kick. I couldn't believe what I
was saying.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, the first thing is, I mean you had a
question why they were even going for a field goal
at that distance?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Right, I mean, say, what's he doing? Why are they
calling that now? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Because like the first thing that I thought about was injury, like, man, like,
what if is he gonna split a hamstring trying to
kick this from this far away? But give them credit, man,
they certainly knew where his distance was and how I
was going to play out, and he nailed it.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
He absolutely nailed the kick.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I can't believe. I mean, seventh of us when I
heard that, it was under do we have the call?
I want to hear Buckey on the call. Do we
have the call? Where's our where's our guys and markers there?
And obviously I got Patty, are you there?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Are you there?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Ld?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Do we have that call?

Speaker 5 (02:00):
I'm here, Andy, what is it?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Call?

Speaker 5 (02:01):
You need it again?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Bucky Brooks called with the cam little seven yard field go.
I'd like to hear it.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I hate to put you on the spot like this,
but I didn't know if Bucket was on the call.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
He was screaming in the back. I guess.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Let me know when you have, Oh you got, just
let me know because we'll move on, because I want
to talk about preseason football with you because I figured
something out, buck I figured something out. I figured you know,
I watched the preseason game, but usually after the first quarter,
like forget it. I mean, you know, the starters aren't there.
Preseason football is very similar to the Canadian Football League,

(02:35):
in the USFL, in all those little leagues. Why because
you don't know who's playing, and no one cares. If
you don't know who's playing, it's not the game. I
used to think, Well, everybody loves football. No, they don't
love football. They love the big name players that play football.
That's why leagues like the CFL and the USFL they've
never in the United Football League, they've never made it because.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
We don't know who these guys are.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
And after the first quarter, and after the first series,
usually with the quarterbacks that I played an YM no
one cares anymore?

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Am I right on that?

Speaker 4 (03:03):
I mean, I do believe there's some people who just
like football from a surface level in terms of, Hey,
I just want to see the stars. I want to
be entertained by the guys that are playing, and maybe
not appreciate some of the guys that are really given
their all to make the team. Some people will call
those guys that are participate in the preseason in the
second half the quote unquote scrubs. But I have an

(03:24):
affinity for those guys because I felt like I was
one of those guys at certain points in my career
just trying to make it. And if you understand how
hard it is to play the game, and then you
have an appreciation for guys who have to kind of
get it out the mud, earn it, as they would say,
you like the preseason because it is that one opportunity

(03:45):
for some of these guys to live out their dreams
because some of them may never play again, may never
suit up at the NFL level. Again, I appreciate that desperation,
that urgency that they play with to lay it all
on the line in front of everybody.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Okay, okay, that's a different perspectives who played the game.
But Justin Tucker kicked the sixty sixty yard against the
Detroit Lions on September twenty sixth, twenty twenty one. That
game was played at four fields, that was indoors. Here's
the and I want to congratulate ours. We have the
best staff in the world. You know, I threw him
at the last minute. I wanted to hear this call,
and they got him. You know, Mark was there, he
got it for us, and obviously LD is there. So

(04:21):
let's take a listen to this Cam little seventy yard
field goal.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Holy smokes, they gotta shot. You just kicked us seventy
yard here?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Are you kidding me? Crazy?

Speaker 6 (04:35):
I crazy? NFL record? That would be an NFL rapid in.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
The first half. Holy smoked, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I'm more impressive than the Bucky Brooks in the background
than the kick. Well that's what I you know, Bucket
Brooks right here on a call that probably went nationwide.
I'm sure every market in the country had that call today.
So that's great, love.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean, seventy yards. Did anybody, I mean, did you
talk to ta Miller after the game, I mean, what
was it?

Speaker 4 (05:06):
What was it? I think I didink a chance to
talk to Caam Little after the game. But the buzz
in the stadium, the buzz up in the press box
after it was done, the conversation with some team members
and team leaders about Cam Little knocking it, it's a
game changer. It's a game changer. Obviously for the moment.
It was a seventy yarder. It doesn't count in the
record books. But what it does do is it changes

(05:30):
some of the things that will exist with the Jaguars
as you're trying to plan out the season. Right, So
now you talk about the scoring zone and where you
have to reach certain parts of the field where you
have a reasonable chance to score points. Well, for most
teams it's you hit the thirty five yard line. That
puts you, like at a fifty two yard field goal.
So that's kind of where hey, we know we have

(05:51):
to get to the thirty five to have a chance
to get points.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, now that opens it up. Maybe it's the forty.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yard line for the Jaguars, And in a desperation situation,
you talk about avery, if we can just get the midfield,
Cam has a chance. So all of these things now
change the way that Liam Cohen and his staff will
go about plotting out how they can play games. And
for Cam little Man, you're talking about an opportunity to
be legendary. People will now be looking for him to

(06:19):
nail these long distance kicks.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
It puts a little more pressure on him.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
But the one thing I've seen from him over two
years of watching him grow, this dude loves the pressure
of the moment and it doesn't phase him.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Obviously, by nailing at.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
The seventy yard kick in a preseason game, He's certainly
not phased by taking on a huge challenges.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
What an offensive weapon. And I can't wait to see
him because they come to Cincinnati this year the second game,
and this is the first home game for the Bengals
this year. But while we're on Jacksonville right now, you know,
give me a little perspective on Travis Hunter. I know
he played both ways here, something like ten offensive snaps
and five defensive snaps. Give me a little perspective of
what the deal is with Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, so they look at much way to debut Everersoner.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Everyone wanted to see how this was going to work
out stand out two way player in college who play
eighty five percentage of snaps at the collegiate level, and
people wanted to see if he could continue to do that.
He played ten snaps on offense. He had a couple
of receptions. On defense, he played about five or six,
got in the way, had some solid coverage, came up,
missed the tackle, but he was active and involved. The

(07:23):
bigger thing that the Jags wanted to see is how
could we handle the mechanics of it all when he
goes in the game, when he's out the game, which
coaches are talking to him. Daved signed a coach to
kind of be with him throughout the game to kind
of monitor his activity. They have all the data, the
GPS stuff to kind of see how many snaps, the

(07:44):
fatigue level and those things.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
It's a very sophisticated operation to really help someone be
a two way player.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
I never thought that this much would go into it,
but the Jaguars are trying to plan it out, trying
to give him the best chance to succeed.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
That's here you go, okay with about preseason now, and
you hit it right on the head because it's a
it's a situation to evaluate talent. You know, and you
called yourself a scrub. Now, look, you played in the
league for five years, so get.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
That out of I wouldn't call myself us grub. I
wouldn't call it any players grub. I'm saying on the
outside looking in, there are people who I know when
they look at the Presets game, like why am I
watching the scrubs play these guys or whatever? And I'm
just saying, like, to me, there's a level of respect
that I have to pay to those guys, because man,
it's such a hard deal to make a team.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I hear what you're saying, I mean, and I keep
on hearing media people say, well, the ones are going
against the twos, and I laugh when I hear that.
These guys are professionals. These guys are NFL players.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I watched that Bengal game on Thursday night against the Eagles,
and believe me, they are number two quarterback. I was
a McKee. I think he kind of m carved them up.
I don't care if he's going against ones or twos.
He carved up that Bengals defense. Joe Borrow was tremendous.
He was nine to ten when he came in there missed.
His first throw was overthrowing to Higgins, but after that
he was perfect. And then if they took him out,

(09:03):
that was the end of Joe Borrow two deals and
he scored twice. But the point is this, their defense
looked the same as last year. You can't tell me
that Al Golden's gonna change it if you don't have
the personnel. A coach is only as good as his personnel.
I don't care what system he puts in there. And
the Big McKee ate him up. He carved them up
defensively on the offensive board and the offense on the ball.

(09:24):
It was terrible, it really was. I didn't see any
difference defensively in that first game. Maybe it doesn't mean
anything it's the first game, but I didn't see a
difference from a year ago.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, look, just look. It's a difficult situation.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
They're trying to fix all these things, but for the
majority of camp they haven't had their best well, two
guys that they're expecting to be their best pass rushers
first and Trey Hendrickson, who is dealing with the whole
in and then Shamar Stewart, who was dealing with some
contract language that he had to get worked out before
he would show up. That put them behind the eight ball.

(10:00):
When it comes to it. In a passing league, you
have to have pass rushers, and right now the Cincinnati
Bengals are trying to figure out how to generate a
pass rush to make their defense more efficient and effective.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Until they get that part.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Worked out, and some of that it's going to take
timing and reps and Al Golden knowing who does what will,
They're gonna struggle. But the good thing if I'm a
Bengals fan to see the first team offense go up
and down the field the way that they did, Jamar
Chase having success, Joe Burrow slicing and dicing the Philadelphia
defense up. It's not exactly what you want to see

(10:33):
from a total team perspective, but offensively, man, they are
already in strit and that could help them get off
to a faster start than we've seen the last few years.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
All Right, saying this one game, I don't think it
means much, but we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Is we move on.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
They play Washington a week from Monday, so we move on.
And I said, coming into the segment of day to
play or not to play? It's about Friday night, the
preseason game between the Lions and the Falcons. Okay, and
the defensive back on the Lions, Maurice Norris, suffered an
injury on the play. He didn't get up after attempting
to make a tackle, and there was a replay and
it showed that his head looked like it snapped back

(11:07):
as it hit the leg of the Falcons running back.
I think it was Nathan Carter. They took them out
in an ambulance and that was the end of the game.
With about six minutes to go, they ran out the clock.
Question I have before I get into the injuries and
whether she play or not. If this was a regular
season game, they would continue. They wouldn't have stopped the game.
Am I right about that?

Speaker 1 (11:26):
No?

Speaker 4 (11:27):
I mean I think they would have continued. They wouldn't
have stopped the game. They would have tried to figure
out a way to make it right. It's a you know,
it's such a crazy situation to see it play out
the way that they played out, But under normal circumstances,
they would have found a way to continue to play
the game.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Okay, So the question is to play or not to
play in preseason.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Why did I have preseason evaluate talent and for owners
to make money on the deal? You know they're selling
tickets all right, And should they have a preseason or not?

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I don't know. And here's the question I have.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Colleges don't have preseason to get right into it, right,
and the pros have preseason. It's a money grand for
owners and it's an evaluation situation for coaches.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Is that basically what it's all about.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I mean, look, I can say both things are true,
but I do believe you need to have the preseason.
You need to have the preseason to get everybody ready
to play. And even though colleges do it, I think
college football would be better off if they had a
way to scrimmage or host a jamboree to allow coaches
kind of understand who they have and what they're working
with going into the season. College football is such a

(12:30):
unique game because you spend far more time training than
you actually do playing and performing, and you don't really
know your team until after you see them play three
or four or five times, and then you can take
their identity and kind of match the schemes to the
identity of the team that you have in the NFL
the preseason, you know, because there's such a fear of injury.

(12:52):
The preseason gives your chance to do that to a point.
But I do think it's necessary. Even though we're seeing
more teams opt to keep their starters on the sideline,
I think it is unnecessary. Evil for the evaluation part
of it, more so than the money making part. It
was seeing the ownership take advantage.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Of It's amazing because yesterday the Vikings are playing the
wide receiver Rondell Moore. He had a pretty significant injury
to his left knee against the Texans, so who knows
what's going to happen with him. And then you hear
the Bears coach Ben Johnson on Caleb Williams today they're
playing the Dolphins, and he says, Caleb Williams is not
going to play. You think this guy needs some work,
but I guess they're fearful of that.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Let's hear what the coach has to say. Go ahead, coach.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
The thought here is we are there's gon be a
number of guys that aren't playing in this game. I
haven't even told the team this yet, but there's gonna
a number of guys that aren't playing in the game,
so we're gonna get great work in the joint practice.
We have a number of things scheduled around the game
for those guys that aren't playing, whether it's the day
before or the day after, where we're.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Actually gonna end up getting more reps.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
Them than they would have had we played them week
one in this game.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
So I'm actually really excited about that.

Speaker 7 (14:07):
I think I think the numbers as they stand right now,
subject to change, are probably nine guys on offense, nine
guys on defense that.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Won't be playing. Is number eighteen. Part of that he's
one of those.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, okay, That was the head coach of the Chicago Bears,
first year coach Ben Johnson on the Hodge and John's podcast.
And look, I guess you could toss the ball up
in the air and wherever it lands, that's what you're
gonna do. Do you play? Do you not play? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You know, Zach Taylor, the coach at the Bengals, has
been like one in five his last opening days, and
he wants to get up to a fast start. So
do you get up to a fair start by putting
your starters in it.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Does it help? Is it a big deal?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
There are some coaches that have been very successful that
don't play their daughters. I think that Andy Reid is
a guy that likes to play his starughters. We've seen that, okay,
But there are some coaches that don't do it, and
some coaches are successful bite by not playing their daughters.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
What is the the answer to that.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I think it depends and a lot of it depends
on joint practices, which is what Ben Johnson was.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Alluding to when it comes to the reps.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
The reason why you would want to play your starters
in a joint practice situation as opposed to a preseason game.
You can control a lot of the variables when it
comes to injury situation, particularly with the quarterback. And a
joint practice, what you get is the intensity of a
preseason game, but the controlled environment of a quick whistle

(15:33):
or a forbidding the opponents from hitting your quarterback. For
the quarterback, he gets all of the advantages of the work,
the rhythm, the flow, the efficiency, all of that stuff
that you want to build without having to take the
shots in those things. That's why teams like it. So
you get all of the benefits of the preseason game
while minimizing some of the risks. For the other part

(15:58):
of it is you now get a chance to play
your young players the entire preseason game. So you get
a chance to see your young players, your guys that
are on the fringes, you get a chance to see
them play the entire game. That puts them in more
what we call real game like situations, understanding how to
execute a two minute drill, third down special teams. Oh,

(16:21):
I got to go from running down on a kickoff
to now playing eight snaps of defense to now being
on punt return.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
You get all of that work in a game.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
And so it's valuable when you can eliminate the starters
from the situation because they got their work done in
joint practices. To give to guys that were truly evaluating
whether they are on the team or not, you give
them a real opportunity to be seen and looked at,
not only by your team, but by everybody else.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
So that's some of the benefits of it.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, I hear you saying, Okay, I want to go
back now to another possible injury here when the Indianapolis
Colts were playing the Baltimore Ravens and their opener, Anthony
Richardson was he was hit pretty hard on the small
finger on his throwing hand. Looked like he dislocated it,
whatever it may be. And honestly, from what I've heard
from various people, they said it was only a five

(17:12):
man front. It was a base defense at Baltimore through
and it should never have happened. Okay, But a guy
like Anthony Richardson, who was going to be number one,
you would think he doesn't have the opportunity. He can't
sit because if he sits, Daniel Jones steals his spot.
Daniel Jones will be the number one guy. So you
know your daned. If you do, you're daned. If you don't,
what are the coaches do? And honestly, I think that

(17:35):
he should have it should have been blocked. I mean,
he never should have been hit. I mean, because you
know as well as anybody else to say a base defense,
it was nothing complicated. He should have recognized that defense
that was coming after him, right, Uh.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah, I mean, look, there's definitely something to like putting
the owners on him to recognize what's happening, to know
where his hots are and to get the ball out
when you're facing auplit situation. He didn't do that, but
I think it speaks to a bigger issue and one
of the reasons why Daniel Jones is there. Anthony Richardson,

(18:07):
as the franchise quarterback must be available and the best
franchise quarterbacks are available for their team each week. He's
had a spate of bad luck when it comes to injuries,
but going all the way back to high school and
college and those things, he has been injury prone.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Maybe he can do your check and see if his
preparation and process is in need of work, but he
can't be available. And for your head coach and for
the organization, you have to trust that your QB one
is going to be there for you each and every week,
and right now he hasn't proven that he can do that.
So I wouldn't expect Daniel Jones to be the starting

(18:48):
quarterback for the end of Lipis Coast when they kick
it off in September.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Wow, how do you like that? All Right?

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Speaker 3 (20:36):
He's Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I'm Andy Furman who live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,
and we talked about to play or not to play.
Various teams have different philosophies about that. Bucky, you mentioned
the fact that.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
They mean the into squad scrimmages may be better off
than actually playing in the preseason games. Whoever it may be.
But there is good news by way of injury because
because of the injury situation in Cleveland with the quarterbacks,
she'd do a say, there's got his chance throws two
touchdowns in the Browns thirty ten win over Carolina the
other night, and I got to ask the question, and
we'll ask the coach in a second, but I asked
Bucky Brooks first, what asaki does that mean? Does he

(21:10):
move up on the depth shot? What happens now?

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Look, I think he certainly earns more reps and more opportunities.
It doesn't mean anything any immediacy in terms of him
competing for the starting job. But he certainly showed the
coaches and his teammates that he could be an effective
player at the NFL level. What that means is when
you reconvene and the coaches are sitting there and we're

(21:34):
beginning to talk about the depth chart and the reps.
A Schuder did a solid job in the preseason game.
Maybe we give him a look again versus Philadelphia this week.
Maybe we give him reps against their ones or maybe
they're twos, to kind of see how he's progressing. But
at the end of the day, you earn your opportunities

(21:55):
by the way that you take advantage of the little
opportunities that you get. Because he had an opportunity, he
had a chance to play and start and was fairly effective.
He now will get another chance to show the people
what he can do.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
That sounds great.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Now let's ask the coach, coach Kevin Stefanskie that Browns,
what do you think what's going on with shell door.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, we're really just focused on developing our players. We're
in evaluation mode.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
I'm pleasing with where the guys are, but I'm not
diving into a quarterback competition.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well, it is a quarterback competition, coach, right, is it, Bucket?
It is a quarterback competition. Now, Joe Flacco is going
to be the starting quarterback. I gotta believe that he's
got the gig. Right, he's the starter. But number two,
I think it's up for grabs and it could be
your door. And he just got You know, Flacco was
forty years old. He could trip down the flight of steps, right,
I mean, come on really?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
So the situation is that, like you want to go
into the preseason with a plan, and the plan coming
out of the preseason like, based on the way everything
was lined up, did Joe Flack would be the starting quarterback? However,
things can change and it still is a little fluid
based on the performance of people. We all every team

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in the league goes into the preseason thinking that things
will play out one way, and then you start playing
the games and either through performance or injury, the depth
chart changes. It's unfortunate that Kenny Picking and Dylan Gabriel
got hurt, but they gave Shirduor Sanders an opportunity. And
because they gave him an opportunity and he took advantage
of it. Now that Trio may have to reshuffle the

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deck when it comes to the pecking order. There's still
time and nothing has to be finalized. But so far,
so good for sure Derrick Sanders. Now the trick in
the National Football League is you did it once, can
you do it again? If you can do it again,
then you see a level of consistency. But that's where
the league is and that's how they go. And so
Kevin Stevanski was like, hey, solid performance, I need you

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to work on these things. When you get your second
chance to playing, they see if you can make the
corrections from the first game.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Okay, now, now let's let's get into something that's kind
of serious and only you could talk about it because
you played the game. Football players like yourself have long
had a pick me up available on the sidelines in
times of need. Well, I mean by that it is
smelling salts and a single whiff will provide an instant jolt.
All right, So I'm gonna ask you, have you ever

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used smelling salts on the sideline when you played?

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah, various times, like like like in college, maybe occasionally
in the pros. Never really was my jam like consistently,
but every now and dan you would do it. And
a lot of times it's peer press because everyone else
do it, so you just kind of try it, but
it it.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Opens you up.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
But I would say it's the equivalent of when you're
cleaning your house and ammonia is open and you open
up the top and you catch a whiff of it.
That's kind of the same feeling that you have with
that is the same feeling that you have.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
When you when you sniff the smelling sauce.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Okay, So the NFL this week was trying to get
them out of the game. They thought that that might
mask concussions, which maybe it was.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I don't know, but now all of.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Us, I guess the players association if you bring your
own whatever that means, it's okay, you could you could
get the smelling smells back of the side. What do
you mean bring your own. I mean that that would
be worse. But people are going to bring everything but
smelling salts. Now, how are you going to check on
what a player brings to a game that I don't understand?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Oh, I mean, I don't know how you check it.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
But in bringing their own, what the NFL is trying
to do is kind of absolve themselves from the liability
of it. There is something that's weird about it. It's
not a healthy thing to do. Andy, I just told you, like,
it's the equivalent of sniffing ammonia. I don't think you
would advise any of your closest friends to spend most
of their time sniffing ammonia. There has to be some
long term consequences and detrimental effects to it with players.

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The NFL, remember has doubted itself as a league that
really promotes health and safety.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well, if you're promoting that, you probably don't.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
Want to encourage players to participate in sniffing of smelling sauce.
That's really where it comes down to, because if they
can link down the line long term consequences and side
effects health side effects from your sniffing of smelling sauce
on the sideline that was sponsored by the NFL or

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encouraged or promoted by the NFL. Yeah, like it probably
makes them liable in some way, shape or form to
some litigation down the road.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
And really it's not just football, but because smelling sauce
have long been popular. I gotta believe in sports that
leaves athletes woozy if they get hitting the head, football, boxing, rugby, hockey,
and the last week, I think the league's decision came
after the FDA and Food and Drug Association administration they
want consumers against inhaling products quote marketed to promote alertness

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and boost energy, and issued wanting letters to numerous companies
because they have wote have not demonstrated these products to
be safe or effective for their intended use. So if
they're not safe or or you to be used effectively,
you know, I guess to League one to them out.
But it's okay for individuals to bring their own if
it's not safe for the for the club to to

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have them use on the sidelines, why would it be
safe for a player to bring his own. That doesn't
make any sense at all.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
I mean, yeah, no, it definitely doesn't make sense. And
you don't want to promote in those things. But it
was such a I guess a stir created by George
Kittle and others about the band the banning of smelling sauce,
that I feel like they just kind of relented.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
They cave at the last minute.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
You know, I certainly wouldn't encourage young people to engage
in it.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I guess they're saying that.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
If you're an adult, you're you're smart enough you can
make a solid decision.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, it's funny you mention George Kittle. I read a
little piece about him about the concern that he had
because he said, George Kittle, the tight end from the
forty nine ers, the first one he went on your
NFL network during training camp, he went crazy. He says
he uses them before every drive, Before every drive, he
uses smelling salts. And then he says, quote, I've been
distraught all day. We've got to figure out a middle

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ground there. I guess the league now has figured out
a middle ground because the day after that memo that
was set by the NFL to the teams, the NFL
Players Association, they fought back. They wrote in their own
memo that they're not prohibited from using smelling salts as
long as they bring the substances themselves. The substances. So
maybe you could help me out here. Is there more
than one kind of smelling salt that says substances. It's

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not one main smelling salt. There's different kinds. I guess, yeah,
I guess.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Look, I can't see there and say that I am
the smelling sauce expert, but I would anticipate that they're
a few different ones that people can participate in, that
they can find and use and get what out of it,
whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
That they need look at. I won't say it's been overblown.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
I know there's some of the stuff that that people use,
and I see the package sometimes when I'm on the
field doing sideline duties. I've seen the packets kind of
laying around where guys have taken it right before they
run onto the field. But look, I think it's more
myth in urban legend than recommended practice. And sometimes things

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are in the game just because the legacy of it all.
And that's what I feel like the deal is with
smelling sauce.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
You know, I didn't, you know, see many smelling salt
incidences in the NFL. But I do remember watching boxing
and when a guy kind of got a little dizzy
and moozy, they put something under his nose. I assume that, right,
I mean that they wake up back up again, right,
that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean that that is what
it is, and they bring that back. But even then,
if you think about it, Andy, that that probably the
way to go about it.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Right, somebody's knocked out.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Let's give them something there right, temporarily impairs them. So
I understand from a medical standpoint why the league wouldn't
want it in. And I understand the findness that players
have from something that they practiced for a long time
has been a part of their game day traditions.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
You know, I was really interested in this whole situation,
what it's all about.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
So I did it. I had some free times.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I went back to there some research on it, way
back to the thirteenth century, And you were right on
when you said this. Who was Ammonia was the active
ingredient in spelling souls. It was used by doctors to
help wake up patients who had fainted, and today ammonia
is most commonly used in fertilizer, refrigerants, and household cleaners
as you mentioned. Okay, but Terry Bradshaw has stated for

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years that players do this all the time when they
get their bell wrong. But for a league that's so
owardly concerned about player's safety, it was a bad look.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
And I agree. I mean, they talk about concussions and
ct whatever it might be.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
But and now all of a sudden they want this.
I'm just it's not I don't know, because smelling souls
give plays a full sense of alertness after a potential concussion.
So you could have a concussion, give a guys smelling souls.
He says, he's okay, he's not usy, you're loose again,
and it goes back in the game. But he's playing
with a concussion, right, Yeah, Like.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
You don't you don't want that, and you don't want
anything to mask it. You're ultimately the league is ultimately
trying to protect.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
The players, right.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
And it's a weird thing because in a gladiator sport
where we are bloodthirsty and we enjoy the violence, like,
there's this element where you're trying to protect them players
against themselves.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
This is part of that initiative.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
To protect the players against themselves to let them know
that it's probably an unhealthy practice to go about things
in this manner. And look, I applaud the lead for
trying to do it, but I don't know why they
relent it. After a little noise, players would have eventually
adapted and adjusted. To me, maybe some week leadership when

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you go back on some of those things.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
My last question on this, because maybe we're staying on
there still a little too long. But my question on
this player.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Gets his bell wrung, he gets hit, maybe head on
the helmet to helmet, do they usually take them right
under the tent? Don't they do that to see if
in fact he has a concussion protocol? But are you
telling me that if a guy gets hit head to head,
helmet to helmet, don't give them a little smelling soulce
forget about going under the ten, go right back in
the game.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
I've never seen that. And if you're alluding to.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
What Terry Bredshaw was saying, like, I mean, that's fifty
years ago, the seventies when he played with the Steelers.
Like the NFL doesn't operate like that. There's a different
level of protocol. I can tell you the only time
I've ever really seen smelling sauce shoes are in two instances. One,
it's more like college in the weight room when there's
a max out day, when guys are trying to get
pumped up, they may use smelling sauce in various forms

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to kind of get pumped up and psyched up to
attack an enormous wait. And then the second time, I
would be right before the game when people are about
to run out, before you're about to run out and
engage in that first contact or whatever to prepare your
mind your body for being the gladiator in the arena.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I've seen him with and engage in that.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Outside of that, I haven't seen it used much after
the game kicks off. So I mean, that's my take
from it or whatever. So I feel like there's there's
a lot of conversation about it, but I don't think
the participation.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Kind of warrants the attention.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
But George Kittle created that when he jumped on the network,
And let's be honest, when it comes to Kittle, Kittle
is more WWE wrestler persona and all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
All of that comes with it.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
So he certainly would engage and kind of be the
poster boy for it. But I can't say the overwhelming
majority of the league is engaging in it.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
But I will tell you this, he opened up the
Pandora's box because right now, when forty nine games are
on TV, as soon as he comes out on the sidelines,
the camera will be on them to see if, in
fact he's sniffing.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Well, I've seen him, like, I've seen video clips of
him sniffing it before he goes on the field or whatever.
But I'm telling you a lot of that stuff is there, theatrics,
right Like, there are a lot of things that we
do to try and get yourself.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
In superhero mode.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
And for him, the routine of stiffing, smelling sauce and
going through that is a part of his thing. I
won't call it a stick, but everybody has the thing
that gets them ready to play, and for Kiddo, smell
a sauce is a part of it.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
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Speaker 1 (35:25):
Al rights.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Bucky coming right up. This is Fox Sports Sunday. He's
Bucky Broke and Andy from it. About twelve minutes before
the top of the hour, and we're live from the
Fox Sports Radio studio. So the two little ask Bucky
LD you got one right, baby?

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (35:38):
I got one for us guys, And it's of course
NFL preseason type one.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
So I got one for his buck.

Speaker 10 (35:45):
So with yesterday, you know, preseason all right, we're in
the middle of it. It's great, we're back. With that said,
I'm a Viking fan and a Seahawk fan, which we
can go to that another time, but this is Viking related.
So JJ mccarth he obviously played for a lot. I
want to say about twelve or thirteen plays. It was
one series or so. My question to you is, should

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he have not gotten, you know, maybe another series or
so in Was it a little you know, was a
little short for him?

Speaker 5 (36:15):
Would you wanted more? Because I personally kind of want
to see more of them?

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Uh No, I mean I think a lot of it
depends on how Kevin O'Connell and the staff feels about
his progress throughout. And sometimes that first thing is not
just about the quarterback playing is who is he playing with?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
And you don't want J. J. McCarthy playing with the
number two offensive line, So there could be multiple.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
Things that play as to why his appearance was shorter
than some would have hoped.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
All right, did he satisfy you with that answer?

Speaker 1 (36:43):
He did?

Speaker 5 (36:43):
Actually, that's valid.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Okay, I got one. Savan Ahmed Colt sworning back. He's
going to miss the entire season. He suffered an ankle
injury in practice. He went down during a hip drop
tackle from safety Trey Washington. Now the NFL banded hip
hop hip drop tackles during the twenty twenty fourth season
due to injuries. I want to know, as so everybody else,

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I would think, what exactly is a hip drop tackle?

Speaker 1 (37:10):
It's really like, it's really hard.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
But if you can imagine someone grabbing the back of
your collar and just basically going dead leg on you,
where they just kind of grab you and fall back
hoping to pull you down, and it's just such an
awkward angle that it puts a lot of undue stress
on your lower extremities, which is why you see ankles.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
And knees and breaks and all that.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah, I mean it's something that's not necessarily intentionally done,
but in a league where you're trying to get people
down by enemies necessary, it's become a way that people
try and get people down when they're chasing from behind.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Okay, So I'm confused, why would his teammate Trey Washington
in practice give him a hip drop tackle.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Because they're a live drill and you're being evaluated on
their everything and you're trying to make a tackle and
it's not ideal and it's not something that you always
can control. But unfortunately he kind of got tangled up
and execute a maneuver that is banned in the league.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
All right, we move on a wide receiver. Ron Dell
Moore injured his right knee yesterday against the Texans. He's
a Vikings wide receiver. Is this a case where coaches
may second guess themselves, say, look, I'm keeping my starters
out period, that's it because this guy is a big
part of their offense and he's going to be gone

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and we're seeing guys dropping like flies. Now, it happens
all the time. I think if I'm a coach, I
roll the dice and I'm not playing my guys. I'm
not playing my starter. It's a good, better and different.
Even if it takes a game or two to get
the rust off, it's not worth it to lose someone
for the season.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Yeah, I mean there are a lot of people that
believe in that, Like the number one thing that you
want to do is you want to get to the
starting line with all of you guys. Now, Others believe
that the only way you can get people ready is
you got a spar you got to have some combat,
some combat, you got to get to it.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
In those things.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Both approaches that produce Super Bowl champs. It's a matter
of what do you feel strongly about. Would you rather
have your guys at the starting line in season one
and then play from there, or do you want to
fully get him ready and feel like they are peaking
as we get into the season.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Benzelwi, I'm glad you mentioned that.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I really am, because I'm going to roll into another
question here because, as I mentioned, the cincin II Bengals
in the last five years, they're one and four in
opening games, and their coach, Zach Taylor has limited his
starters in those games. Now, all of a sudden, he
says he wants to get up to a quick start,
so he's going to play the start as more. I
won't know how does that make a difference, because if
he got bad defense, which he does, you know, playing
the starters or not is not going to make a difference.

(39:50):
I just don't think that makes it. Joe Burrow is
going to be good if he plays or not. He
didn't play last year a lot in the preseason, had
a tremendous season all right now he's going to play.
The only thing it could happen right now is n't
getting hurt. I don't what's the difference. There's no difference.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
There is a difference in terms of rhythm.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
You can talk about Cincinnati and Joe Burrow playing well
last year's dear offense, but remember the first couple of
games they got up to slow starts. And the league
is so much about rhythm and flow, particularly at quarterback,
and he wants to get in the rhythm. He wants
to get some game reps against competition so that they
can hit the ground running.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I understand it.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Man, franchise quarterback, you got to listen to what he says.
He needs to get ready to play at a high level.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I don't I think Zach Taylor is panicking right now
because they don't make the playoffs this year.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
His seat is not going to be hot.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
It's gonna be burning. They'll be on fire. I really
believe that, at least it should be. I don't know
what they do in Cincinnati with Mike Brown, but you
know he has a tendency.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
To keep guys.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
But we'll see what happens depending upon his contract. But
got to make got to make the playoffs, all right?
So who will be the big winner this NFL season?
That and so much more where right here on Fox
Sports Sunday next all right, you'll be shocked when you
hear who the winner is. That's coming right up. Good morning.
This is Fox Sports Sunday, are Fox Sports Radio. He's

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Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios and
a way we go, Bucky, I gotta tell you, I
got to hand it to you. I read NFL dot
Com every week.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
You right this week it's not only informative, it's controversial.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
I love controversy. I do. I live for controversy. And
that's what you did.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Bucky Brooks is a writer, he's a scout, he's on TV,
he's on radio.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
He does it all. And this week.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
I don't know where you got the idea to put
this together, but I love it. And what I'm talking
about is that basically, there are seven new coaches in
the NFL, and you're gonna tell us which one's gonna
have the most success. But you were visiting NFL camps
last week. You have any good nuggets before we get started,
any good insight information, some dope for us from the

(41:54):
NFL camps that you at.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
I mean, I don't have any do, but I would
say that having a chance to watch the Dallas Cowboys
and the La Rams SQUFF and the joint practice, a
few things stood out. Davante Adams is gonna be a
big producer in this offense for the Rams.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
He was getting busy the day that I was there.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
The way that Sean McVay creates opportunities for him to
get open. He still has the skill set to win
consistently against top corners. And when you combine him and
put in the cool at this running game, and when
Matthew Stafford comes back, this offense is gonna be explosive,
but he's gonna be a big part of it. Any deep,

(42:34):
for the Cowboys, I would say they missed Michael Parsons.
Michael Parsons is everything when it comes to their pass rush,
their defense, and he was there. He was in good spirits,
they say, his families in town. And so even though
on the outside this looks like a very contentious and
acrimonious situation, there's a belief that this thing is gonna
get done before the regular season kicks off, and Michael

(42:56):
is gonna be the same player that he's always been
for the Cowboys, which is a high end and dominant player.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Okay, you mentioned Devontae Adamson. I got to say, yeah,
he's great, he's a great player, but you got to
get the ball to him. And that's got to be
Matthew Stafford. The guy's thirty seven years old. He's got
a bad back. I don't know if they're masking that,
they're hiding the fact that he's got a really bad
back at thirty seven years of age, and maybe it
takes one hit and bingo, he's gone. So what have
you heard about Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
I mean, I think everybody's still in kind of wait
and see mode when it comes to Matthew Stafford. Obviously
it's not ideal that he is dealing with an injury
like that, but look, he's a pro, and it takes
what it takes for him to get ready and eventually
he'll be ready to play. But I still believe, as
Sean Mvay talked about, they have a lot of belief

(43:44):
and confidence that he's gonna be Okay, he's dealing with
it back, but they feel like he's going to be
the same player that he's always been.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Well, he's a heck of a player, no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Now here's the deal. Seven new head coaches this year
in the National Football League. First question, how difficult is
it to be a head coach for the first time?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
You go from coordinator to coach.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I kind of compare that to you could be an
outstanding teacher, you know, in great school, and you're promoted
to a principal. Doesn't mean you'll be a great principal, right, Great,
you're great with the kids, you're great relationships in the classroom.
You're not a great administrator. You know, there's a difficulty.
Do you know, you got you have a lane to
be in. Teaching is one thing. Being a principal and

(44:25):
an administrator is something else. A coordinator is one thing,
you know, being the guy in charge, the CEO, that's another.
How difficult is it to be a first year coach?
You know, guys like Ben Johnson with the Bears. I mean,
you got to change the culture at that place. That
place stinks.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Uh yeah, But there's so much more to it than
just like changing the coach and those things like you
have all of that, which matters picking the players or whatever.
But it's a position that you're not fully prepared for
No matter what position you've done prior to being the
head coach, you're not ready to manage the entire team,
whether it's a offense or defensive coordinator, even a special

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teams coordinator.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
You're not used to managing all the things.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
That come up, and some of the mechanics that you
have to deal with on game day can be problematic
in terms of a how do I manage the situation timeouts,
I need to talk to this player, I need to
get this side of the ball right while the other
side is on the field. And if I'm a play caller,
it's even compounded by the fact that A I need
to concentrate on my job, which is calling plays while

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also managing the entire team, checking in with the defense.
It's hard and then away from the game before you
even get the game. Every day, there's something that comes
up with the team that the head coach must deal with.
There's always something burning, something that you're having to address,
a situation that could get sticky.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
That's part of the head coach.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
So so many head coaches fail because they can't focus
on the things that made them a viable candidate because
there's so much going on.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
You know, I don't think the public realizes it. I
mean the head coach obviously, I reckon that to like
a CEO of a corporation. He's got to have his
hand on every little thing, you know. And some coaches
are defensive specialists, offensive specialists, and are kind dabbling that
maybe more than on the other side of the football, but.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
More than that.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
After the game, they got a news conference Monday afternoon,
they got a news conference midweek Wednesday news conference. They're
basically the face of the team where the coordinators really
don't have to do any of that. They've got to practice,
make up their game plans, whatever it may be, and
go home.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
That's what they do. The coach is like doing everything,
plus this media responsibility, which really takes a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
And you got to be careful what you say. You
come back after a bad practice or after.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
A loss, and you say something bingal goes viral, you're
up the creek.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
I mean, yeah, Look, it's a tough deal. It's not
it's not for the fan of heart.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
And you have to be organized, you have to be
willing to delegate. You have to have enough people that
you trust around you that can help you navigate the situation.
And you have to have a patient that is willing
to live through some of the on the job training
that you must undergo to eventually become a good coach.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Not easy, Not an easy situation at all.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
All Right, So now on NFL dot Com this week
you had the top coach of the seven coaches who
will win the most games?

Speaker 3 (47:24):
So I got to ask, how do you get.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
This formula by the coaching background of these guys or
the personnel that they have, because I want to know,
you ranked them what the seven who's going to have
the most successful season?

Speaker 3 (47:35):
So how did you get to that?

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Yes, look, it's a challenge, right because you're guessing on
a few different fronts. You're leaning on their pedigree, how
they're entering the league, what they're coming in with, what
that looks like. You're also counting on the personnel where
they stack within the division. All of that by all
of it matters when it comes to recognizing the projection

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or whatever. But it's a guessing game, and you're guessing
who's going to have a team that is ready to
go with minimal changes and they're going to buy into
the new philosophy that is being implemented. So that's kind
of how when it went about it. Look, but it's
a big guessing game. It's an educated guessing game, but
it's a guessing game nonetheless.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Well, and I trust you because you played the game.
You've been there, done that, and you said you were
at the Cowboys training camp in ox Star, California. So
let's start with the seven. I think that in your list,
didn't you have Brian Schottenheimer number one? He'll have the
most success of all the seven coaches.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Part of that is due to the division and what
the Cowboys have, particularly on offense, the synergy with Dak Prescott,
Cede Lamb, George Pickens, Jake ferguson offensive line that is talented.
They should be able to score enough points to give
people problems. And then with Matt Eberflus coming back this
time to take over the defense, which is more like

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the Rod Mary Nelly and christ Rahhard defenses that they
had success with years ago, it might be a better fit.
Not that the defense needs to be dominant, but they
need to be dominant and disruptive when they have the
luxury of playing with the lead. To me, the pieces
of the puzzle fit for them to have success. We're
talking about nine ten wins. To me, that's a very

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doable deal for the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
So you're saying that Dallas Cowboys will be playoff bound
this year.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
I'm not saying they playoff buyd.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
I'm saying they can get to nine or ten and
wherever it falls, it falls. But yeah, I think they
are a team that is in the conversation for being
one of those last teams to sneak into the tournament.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Okay, I want to see a healthy Dak Prescott. I
like that, Prescott. I think you got the job done
all of a sudden. Now, Cede Lamb's got a partner,
he's got a number two guy, and George Pickens takes
a lot of pressure of CD, who's been double teamed
a lot. But George Pickers, to me, is a little
bit of a goofball all right, great player, but you know,
he could go off in his own way, and I
just hope he doesn't cause any disruptions in that team,

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which he can do, and he did that in the
locker room several times in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
He did.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
But he's in the contract year, so he has to
be on his best behavior. You're banking on the fact
that he understands that and knows For me to get
what I want out of this, I got to make
sure I'm a good teammate and a good team player.
The other thing is, Cowboys people will tell you they
feel like he's not just the number two. He's one
B in comparison to Cede Lamb, and that has created

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a little bit of a competition between the two. Healthy competition,
a healthy amount of respect between the two pass catchers,
and that should bring out the best in both of
those guys, which is exactly what the Cowboys want to
see when all of the pressures on Dak Prescott in
this offense to get it going.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Okay, you're very high on Ben Johnson, the new coach
of the Chicago Bears, who was the offensive wizard you
said for the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Now here's my question.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
You got guy like eba Flus who coached the Bears,
didn't do well gone now and his strengthler's defense. Now
he's a defensive coordinator in Dallas. Fear that that could
be in the in the future for Ben Johnson may
not have a good head coaching. You know, life so
to speak, and he may go back to being an
offensive coordin, then I wish him well. I think the

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league would love to see the Chicago Bears be competitive,
and maybe they will. But I understand from what I've read,
and the Chicago media really was kind of a gas
the other day that they put that Johnson put them
through a practice that they had not seen in years
in Chicago just the other day. So maybe these Bears
are going to turn the corner, and maybe they can.
I don't like what Caleb Williams did in the.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Offseason with his book, said that you know, the Bears
are placed for quarterbacks going to die. I mean they
got to change that.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Gott to change the image of this team before they
could change the results on the field.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
I believe, yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
They do have to change the image on the uh.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Like they got to change the image. You got to
change the coach.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
You gotta change who they are and what they're about.
I do love the fact that I hear players talking
about Bean Johnson and the challenges that he sets forth
in practice, the way that they are going about their
business in a different manner. I am a believer that
your team has to reflect the image of the city.
There's a rough and ruggedness that encapsulates or that the

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city kind of represents and reflects, and the team has
to be built in that image. So I want to
see if the Monsters of the Midway on defense, but
I want to see some bazazz on offense as well,
while focusing on the running game. That's the kind of
team that Ben Johnson wants to create if he follows
the formula that was successful for them in Detroit.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
They want to run the football, they want to be physical,
but they also want to be fun. I think they
can mix that in.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
But a lot of hinges on the play and the
performance of Kayler Williams.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I mean, what have you heard, because Kayler Williams right
now is a little bit shaky. I think you get
it done. I think they upgraded the cast of playmakers
with their draft. They got the kid Colston Loveland. I
think that's gonna help a little bit.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
But you know what, you know, you could draft the
guy you don't expect immediate success. I don't think.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I think it's a growing curve. I got to wait
a little bit. I don't think a guy who's drafted.
Is it to come right in and turn things around?

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Uh yeah, we can say that, but he was number
one overall pick. That's the expectation, and I can let
him off that point. So many people hailed him as
a generational talent, as something that we hadn't seen before,
put him into Pat Mahomes category. Well, my expectations, I'm
gonna see some of that stuff, Like, that's what we
want to see from a number one overall pick. You've
taken number one because you have the potential and the

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talent to transform a franchise.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Well, I want to see Kayla Williams transformed the franchise.
All the excuses off.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
They upgraded the offensive line, they surrounded with more weapons
on the outside, they brought in an offensive wizard to
call the plays. At some point, he's gonna have to
live up to the hype. In year two is the
perfect time to do. So.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Okay, you got you got Ben Johnson, who's never been
a head coach. Got Schottenheimer, Brian Schottenheim have been an
assistant for years, coordinator whoever may be. And you said
that Schottenheim is gonna have the most success. I disagree.
I think the guys got the most success. Number One,
he's in the division where he can make some moves.
And number two, he's been a head coach and he's
done well as a head coach. I'm talking about Mike

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Rabel of the New England Patriots. I think this guy's
going to be very successful. I think the Patriots going
to turn it around. I think the Patriots I'm not
going to challenge Buffalo, I don't think, but I think
the Patriots probably a better season than the Jets. I
think the Pagers could even make the playoffs this year.
I think Rabel's going to have more success than the
two offerrementioned coaches that we talked about.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I really believe that.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
I mean, there's a path for Mike Able to be there.
And the only thing that held me back from putting
Mike Rabel at the top is the quarterback situation with
Drake May. Can Drake May make that sophomore jump under
Josh McDaniels. I've seen Josh McDaniels have a lot of
success with Tom Brady. I've seen the success be scattershot
with others. Can't he find a way to get Drake

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May playing at a higher level defensively? I have no
doubt the Patriots gonna be better on defense. All the
veterans they brought in, Roberts, Harold Landry, Milton Williams.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I mean, the list goes on and on.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
They have some older players there that helps him get
on point. But can they score enough points to win?
I am encouraged after watching them absolutely obliterate the Commanders
on the preseason game. They're serious, They're about their business
and they're going for it. And I think that score
that we saw forty eight or whatever the thirteen that
was by design. Mike Vabel is sending a message. He

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wants a tough, physical team, but he wants one that
with a little more talent is gonna be problematic. Yeah,
I could see them being in the mix. I just
don't know about the quarterback yet.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Well here's the thing. I mean, Drake May, is you
a guy for North Carolina. Sometimes the quarterback is made
by the receiver.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Stefan Diggs is gonna make Drake May.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
You know, And maybe it's a stupid thing for me
to say, but and you played the game so you
could challenge me on this. You know, does the quarterback
make the receiver or is it vice versa. I think
in this situation, Stefon Diggs is going to help make
Drake May grow all right. In other situations, I think
that it's a even Stevens situation with Jamar Chase and
Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
You know, I don't know who makes whom. They're both great,
they really are.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
But in this situation, Stefan Diggs been there, done that,
He's gonna make Drake May.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Okay, look chicken in the egg debate, Chicken in the egg,
Chicken in the egg.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
But when you've seen receivers who were maybe not top
shelf receivers been made to the next level because of
a quarterback correct And I think that quarterbacks can take
a receiver who basically is so so and make them good,
not hall of famers, but but really really good.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
And I look at the New England Patriots.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
They've had a kind of a situation like that for
years with Tom Brady. Look at Tom Brady and the
receivers he had. Who's going to the Hall of Fame.
Who went to the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Besides moss On the New England Patriots that there is
a receiver, think about.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
That they did not receive it. Brady yeah, I mean
you're right. And now, so we're ready to call Drake
May Tom Brady?

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Are we ready to say that Stephan Diggs is going
to make Drake May into Tom Brady?

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Now.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Stefan Diggs played a significant role in Josh Allen turned
the corner in Buffalo. The Patriots are probably hoping when
they signed Stefan Diggs that he can help Drake May
by doing the same things he did for Josh Allen,
which was consistent, reliable, dependable pass catcher that you could
trust in those big moments. If he's that, then he's

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well worth his weight and goal.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
All right, And speak of the quarterbacks, you got to
be really excited. I know you're bursting inside. You didn't
want to say anything that's going to hurt anything, and
maybe you look foolish, but you got to be really
excited about Jacksonville. I think this is a breakout year
for Trevor Lawrence and I got the new coach in Cohen.
I think he's done a good job. I mean, look,
he did a good job with Baker Mayfield. Can he

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do that job with Trevor Lawrence. I mean Trevor Lawrence,
I think is a better quarterback top to bottom. The
beg of Mayfield just never had the opportunity, and he
had so many coaches and offensive coordinators over the last
several years. That's gotta be a negative. It really has
to be. I think that Jacksonville's gonna be breakout this year.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how Trevor takes to this.
Like by all accounts, things are going well, progressing nicely.
The offense moved the ball a little bit while he
was in the game in preseason, and he's only going
to get better with more reps. The big thing for
the Jags offensively that they're fine with exception of the
offensive line, which is everything.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
The offensive line has to play well.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
They gotta be able to run the football better because
that sets up to sets up some deep all shots
for Trevor Lawrence. And then defensively, can they generate stops
with this a ben but don't break unit. Depending how
all that shakes out really impacts how Trevor Lawrence will
perform and how Liam Cohen will perform and track as
a first time here coach.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
And Brian Thomas is an up and comers. He's a
great player, He's a great receiver. I think that he's
gonna break out too. He's have a breakout seas. I
think Jacksonville is gonna do real well, you know, And
I see the locals in the Cincinnati market talking about
the Bengals right now being two and zero. Watch it,
watch it. They may trip over Jacksonville. I'm telling you,
you know, I'm not a nay sayer. You know, I'm
not a cheerleader. I'm not a negative guy. I'm not

(59:23):
that kind of a person, you know me. But I
just think that it's not gonna be as easy as
they think. They're not gonna roll over Jacksonville. I think
it's gonna be a tough ball game in Cincinnati. And
you'll be there, right, You will be there.

Speaker 4 (59:35):
Yeah, I will be there. It should be a lot
of fun. I'm looking forward to it. That'll be a
huge test for the Jags. Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase that
that offense is liiceyle T.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Higgins. Yeah, I mean not looking forward to that.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Well, that'd be really good.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Okay, let me just go one more one, because you
got Pete Carroll basically new new, but he's old school
and he's been there and he's going to the to
the Las Vegas Raiders. I got Geno Smith, who was
plus for him because he's been with him in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
But do you think they're gonna make any any moves?
I think I just I don't know. They got Max Crosby,
defensive player of the year guy. I just don't know
Brock Bauers. Other than that, I don't know Ashton Jenty.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
The first game, no, I didn't do it, But I
don't think you can judge necessarily by the preseason game.
I think Pete Carroll is going to have this team
flying around.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
He's excitable.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
He's done a really good job of infusing this franchise
with some of that collegiate enthusiasm to get going. And
if the guys buy in completely, buy in, submit to
what he's saying, he's proven that he can win. It's
just a matter of time for the win. Division is hard,
but they're closing the gap on the competition. I just

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don't know if it's gonna result in many wins this season.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Okay, we did five of the seven. We're gonna get
the next two.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
We have YAO and A in this hour the Blame Game,
an hour number three. But one NFL player is getting
some sound advice from a teammate.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
But will it work?

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
That's coming up next, all right, his teammate had the
same problem.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
He really did. We'll get to that in just about
a minute. He is my guy, Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman,
and we are live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
We'll have yay n A in about oh ten eleven
minutes from now. But you know, Bucky Brooks had the
NFL dot Com the seven new coaches in the NFL.
Which coach will have the most success? Started out with
the Dallas Cowboys Brian Schottenheimer. But now I wish this

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man well. His name is Aaron Glennie played for Bill Parcells,
he's a head coach in the New York Jets, and
I will say this, I think it's important for New
York to make claim in the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
It's not as big as it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
And when I say this in baseball, I think it's
important for the Yankees and Mets to win. Why I
think the New York markets needed in Major League Baseball.
I don't think the New York market is needed that
much in the National Football League. I will say this
in college basketball, it's very important for the Big East
to have New York and Saint John's do well. It's
important for the Big East Conference.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
In football, I think you'll agree it's not that important.
And market size doesn't mean that much for fan It's
just people love the NFL from Green Bay to New
York to Atlanta to la It doesn't make a difference.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
It really doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
But I think Aaron Glenn's gonna do well. Last night,
the Jets beat up on the Packers thirty to ten.
Justin Field's played, let them to the seventy nine yard
touchdown drive, and I think they're going to do well.
I think the Jets well they make the playoffs. That
I can't tell you, Buck, I don't know, but I
think they'll be respectable.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
I think it's all follow the blueprint, and I know
that blueprint is. It's because the same blueprint that Bill
Parcells use to turn around the Jets years and years
ago when Keishon Johnson was the number one receiver and
Aaron Glenn was a part of that team. They're going
to run the football. They're gonna run the football in
a variety of ways. They're gonna run it with Brayln
Allen Breeshaw and Justin Fields. They're gonna throw it outside

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to Garrett Wilson and Mason Taylor on play action passes,
and they're going to rely on their defense to make Hey,
remember this is one of more talented defenses that you
will find. What this team needs is a pinch of toughness,
a pinch of throwback old school toughness, a whole a

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hardened mindset, which is what they did in Detroit when
Eric Glynn was a part of that staff. To me,
this is going to work because Aaron Glynn knows the
organization inside and out and he knows exactly how to
fix it based on a blueprint and a formulat that
worked successfully years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Now, I think there's suthing to be said about how
the chemistry. When I say chemistry, I mean Joe Burrow
and Jamar Chase, they both played at LSU. They know
each other, I know everything about each other. Now you
got Justin Fields, a quarterback went to Ohio State, and
Garrett Wilson he went to Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
They played with each other. I think that means something.
It really does.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Yeah, I mean I think that chemistry and connection is terrific.
They spend a couple of years together to Ohio State. They
know each other, and they have a respect for one another,
which certainly helps in that chemistry that was lacking last
year between Aaron Rodgers and Wilson.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
That won't be there.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
They'll have chemistry, they'll be on the same page, and
that leads to more success throwing the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Yeah, and the running games decent. It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Braylen Allen and Breese Hall pretty good runners. I think
I'll get the ball going, but Justin Field's going to
get it done. I just I fear of saying they're
going to make the playoffs, but I think that they
could possibly be five hundred or a little better this year,
and I'm really looking forward to next week because they
have the annual Jet Giant game. Doesn't mean much as preseason,
but we'll see a little more than we saw in

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the first game.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
This week, which means it doesn't mean anything mean stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Well mean, some of the players who are lying for
positions on the team, we're not gonna see much more
justin fields. I don't think he's not gonna play half,
is he?

Speaker 8 (01:05:09):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Uh no?

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
You know what, most teams are used next week as
the big game, So yeah, I think he may play
a few more series than he.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Played this week.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Aaron Glenn appears to have a little more of an
old school pro, so yeah, what you're calling on is
probably what he do. When you say he'll play a half, Yeah,
I can see that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
I see him playing a half.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
That sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Now, Now, you had Aaron Glenn's number six in your seven. Now,
if I were you, I would have stopped at six
because you got Kellen Moore at seven. You know, he
might as well be seventy because right now is head
coach of New Orleans Saints. If they win four games,
I'll be shocked. I really I mean they have, Like,
I feel bad for the guy, but again, everybody wants
to be a head coach. But after this year, they

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gotta give him another year. They gotta give him some
I mean, you got what Spencer Rattler quarterback. I just
don't think he's gonna get done so again. And I say,
you say he's number seven, might as well have been
number seventy seven because he should have stopped at six.
I don't see any hope whatsoever for the New Orleans Saints.
I might too much of a negative kind of guy

(01:06:12):
in this one. I don't think so, I really don't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
I mean, you seem like you might be a bit
of a hater, just a little bit. I mean just
a little bit. But I like, I get it, I
understand it. It's not it's not a perfect situation when
it comes to what Kella Moore is stepping into. I mean,
he's the quarterback guru without a quarterback. They took Tyler Shutt,
but the reports coming out of camp haven't been great.

(01:06:37):
Maybe he progressed as quickly as a rookie, but you're
looking at Spencer rather Tyler Shutt, jayk Amner without a quarterback,
no matter how many great beers they have, no matter
how many vets they have that are ready to get
this team to the next level, it starts at quarterback,
and I just don't know if they're good enough around
the quarterback to get it done. If the quarterback doesn't

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play very well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Yeah, and the bad news is is that basically there's
not really much in the draft. They were finished for
the first pick to get a quarterback. You know, didn't
arch Manning. Didn't his grandpa say the other day, I
don't want to go into New Orleans? Didn't he say that?
So if they get the first pick and they want
to draft arch Manning, forget it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Even they want to go there, So they're up the
creek a ready.

Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
I mean, it's it's not a great situation right out
the gate, you know. I will say that for arch Manning,
he wants to stay in and get better, which makes
sense because remember Eli and Payton, they stayed in got
significant rest before they made their way to the league.
So if money isn't an issue and you have the

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opportunity to stay and develop and play without having to
worry about the next level, the best thing for him
to do is to stay in college.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
And play it out and kind of see what it
looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Well, history repeats yourself, right, said in Eli when he
got drafted, he didn't want to go to the West Coast,
but they traded him eventually and he went to New York.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
I mean, crazy, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean that's how I played out for sure, no.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Now let's talk Dallas Cowboys simply because you said Brian
Shott and I was gonna be the best of the
seven guys coming in. And when I talk Dallas Cowboys,
well it means one thing. JJJ Square, Jerry Jones, and
I always believe that owners should be seen and not heard.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Don't you agree? I mean, think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
You know, the average guy on the street who follows
the National Football League probably couldn't name three owners, Probably
not Jerry Jones number one, Robert Kraft number two after that.
I don't think people not only could not name him,
they don't want to name they don't have to. But
Jerry Jones is always out there, and I think that
it hurts the image. I heard stories and tell me

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if I'm based on this that he goes into the
locker room after games Jerry, I mean the game is over,
he goes down to the lock Come on, really, he's
stay in your owner's box.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Say the owner's box. You don't want him, you don't
want him involved, want in the locker room. If you're
own a.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Product, you don't want to be responsible for making sure
that you tend to the product.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Do you have to go in the locker room after
a game?

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
I mean, I mean, like, I mean, it's a little much,
A little much. Yeah, it's a little much. It's a
lot to deal with. But well, you understand.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
He's involved now with this Michael Parsons thing and his
contract frustrations, and this becomes like a public talking point.
Everybody's got they got it line in the sand. Everybody's
got his position.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
You're with Jerry Jones, you're against Jerry Jones with Micah,
and the public seems to be backing Jerry Jones. I
don't know why, because he's an owner. The public doesn't
like players.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
I don't like being paid. I don't understand. I just
don't get that. Do you feel that as well, that
the public seems to be backing Jerry Jones saying, yeah,
Jerry held out, don't pay the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
I mean, I don't get it. I really don't understand
that at all.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Look, man, it's always weird, but it is one of
the things where most of the time fans backed billionaires
over millionaires. And for whatever reason, maybe because you're more
aligned to the team than your favorite player, the team
typically always gets to support in these contract situations, and

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there's a little bit of maybe, Like I don't call
any jealous, like that's not the proper way to say it,
but sometimes people look at players and say, like, how
are you complaining about the money that you make for
playing a kid's game?

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
That can fall into it, you know, but yeah, right now,
decide with Jerry Jones, I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Can understand that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
I think the bigger issue with the Cowboys and Michael Parsons.
The Cowboys have to feel good about handing the bag
to Michael Parsons, And what is he going to do
once you pay him?

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Like, because once you pay.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Him, and the number is gonna be significant where he's
gonna be the highest paid in the National Football League.
If you don't feel great about his leadership style or
any of that stuff, you kind of paused before doing it.
But he certainly earned the right to be in that
conversation with Miles Gary TJ. Watt when it comes to
the money.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
No doubt about that. And for those of you living
in a cave, Michael Parsons holding in, not holding out,
holding in, He's not fine fifty grand a day. He's
holding in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
During the Cowboys training camp he went to contract extension.
He's not practiced since he made his trade request public
last Friday. He's with the team, he's in uniform, but
he's on the sidelines during the team and he's on
the sidelines during the joint practices, including that session. I
guess you were there against the Rams on Tuesday. You

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were there against that. So he's on the sidelines, so right,
and honestly his teammate, And honest this is kind of
crazy because most often you don't hear teammates talking about
guys who are holding out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
It's like everybody's got their own deal, and you know,
good luck to you. Leave me alone. I'm out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
But Dak Prescott got involved and he said, I've been
involved with this too, with join out negotiations with Jerry Jones.
And he said to him, and he went to Prescott,
he says, what do you gotta do, he says, f man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
That's what he said, So frustration. I guess that's what
he meant by I would think he says, frustrating. For
everybody involved, that is frustrating. You know, he wants to play.
I'm sure. I'm sure the teammates want him on the field,
and I'm sure Parsons wants to be on the field
as well. So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
But then Jerry comes back and says, I'm built for
these kinds of challenges. It's not a challenge sign the
freaking guy, well kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
It sounds like he lives for this. You know, it's
like competitiveness. He wants to go back and forth with
this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
It's crazy, It is crazy. But to know Jerry is
to love Jerry, and this is negotiation is a sport
for Jerry Jones. He lives for this. This is a competition.
He wants to win the deal. And the contentious or
combative nature of this that would bother some doesn't bother

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him at all. He is okay with it. He's okay
with being the bad guy all of this stuff. So
I mean, nedit. We know, we know what it is.
This is what it's going to be, and we have
to be ready to watch this play out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
It's a game to him because you know, if Prescott
comes back and accepts what he's with Jerry offers him,
then Jerry quick puts a notch on the walls that
I won.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
It's a game he won, right, That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
I mean, it definitely is a game. But I don't
know how it's a game that is won, that he
can win. But yeah, it's a game, man. He finds
it funny. He finds the joy in this. There's joy
in being able to get this done, which to me
is stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
But I agree, oh with you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
But Dak Prescott back in twenty twenty one, he had
like a couple of extended contract problems with Jerry and
they got that four year deal for like one hundred
and sixty mins.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
So we'll see what happens now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
But the question I have right now, will Michael Parsons
be in the lineup against the Eagles on September the fourth?

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
I say, yes, uh, yes, here be here.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Yes, I'm sure he will.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
He will. He will be there for sure. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
That's good to make Cowboy fans happy. Right now, and Jerry,
you're gonna lose. He's gonna get the money and he's
gonna play, all right. Be sure to check out the
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Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Okay, it's simple. You have
a fifty percent chance either way. It's yay or nay,
and you know what it's next, all right, take your
pick yay or nay, and it's yours in just about
a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Yes, and it's about twelve minutes before the top of
the hour. This is Fox Sports Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks,
I'm Iny Firman too. Are live on the Fox Sports
Radio studios. But right now, right now, it's time for
yay or nay.

Speaker 8 (01:15:00):
Okay, let's figure rack those brains, gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
These stories needed, ass I think we need on this
yay or nay l D. Yay or nay l D.

Speaker 5 (01:15:12):
I'm gonna go yay because I am in on this one.

Speaker 8 (01:15:15):
Guys.

Speaker 10 (01:15:15):
So I got one for a ya in a n
a uh. So Caleb Williams and the Bears. Caleb is
not playing in this preseason game for what is it today.

Speaker 5 (01:15:26):
Or tomorrow whatever?

Speaker 10 (01:15:26):
He did not put it to Dolphins today against the Dumbins.
Not playing yay or nay on this, Andy Furman, I
say nay, let him play. He's got to play, because
you know what, he'll cry either way. He'll cry if
he loses.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
He cries.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
He doesn't play. Everybody, I guess to us, see what
he did playing cry.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Let him play.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
He needs to play.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Make him work, Ben, come on, Ben, Ben Johnson, my guys,
I'm gonna say nay. I would say, don't play him.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
If you have a plan that in plays, you want
to enjoin practices and those things, don't need to play him.
If you can get all the work done in practice,
don't play them in the game.

Speaker 10 (01:16:00):
All right, We're going with the NAIs on that one.
But we're gonna go to some little league guys. So
a little league coach went viral for his dad joke
on the mound. Jake Riordan, the head coach of the
team from a Kentucky saw things weren't going so well.
So his starting pitcher Banks Denton. Wow, that's a name,
loaded the bases on fourteen pitches and look nervous.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
So Riordan wanted to light the mood. He walked to
the mountain.

Speaker 10 (01:16:24):
He said, do you know that a koala bear is
not actually a bear?

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
It's a marsupial. He told the kids to lighten the mood.

Speaker 10 (01:16:32):
Yeah or nay on this whole entire just situation, Bucky.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
I mean yay in terms of trying to keep him
distracted and try and keep it loose.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
But it's a little silly for my taste. But I
get it. You're dealing with Loki, so you gotta do
what you gotta do.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
I say nay, And if on the pitch and I say,
you know what, get the hell off the mountain.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
You out of your mind. Go see a shrink. There's
something wrong with you. Okay, I'm not getting the ball
over the plate. I get it. I know what I
gotta do. Leave me low Aquala bass right now, there's
something wrong with you. I stopped drinking. I smell your breath.

Speaker 11 (01:17:06):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Are you calling them butter maker from the Bad News Bears?

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
YEA, Then you call it. Yeah, sell them butter maker. Yeah,
the butter maker came to the mountain.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Yeah, I smell his breath.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
Geez.

Speaker 10 (01:17:18):
Well, from one butter maker manager to an MLB manager,
so we got a MOLB. Milwaukee Brewers manager Pat Murphy
went viral for pulling a pancake out of his uniformed
pocket and taking a bite, as he detailed different ways
he above shoves food into his pockets, snack on the dugout.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Yeah your nay, Andy, you know, I say yay for
a seconds? Who want to see this pig?

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
I mean, really and truly, this guy you must have
ants and roaches and mice in his pants. Really, how
do you look around with a pancake and food in
your pocket? I mean, really, can you not hold out
for two and a half hours not to eat? I
mean really, I want to see what he looks like.
I have a him up close. Pat Murphy's he's that big?
Is he fat?

Speaker 10 (01:18:02):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
How much can you stuff on a pancake in your pocket?

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
I'm really, nah, He's fine. I appreciate it. I dig it. Actually,
the fact that he put it out of his pocket.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
This is a guy that was super successful as a
coach at Arizona State leading the Sun Devils, and so
I'm willing to buy in.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Whatever works for him works for him. I'm gonna go
with it. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:18:22):
Oh jeez, Well, we're gonna stay with baseball here, guys.
So Jason Smith's mets here shout out to Jason Smith.
Well honor the sixtieth anniversary of the Beatles performance at
Shay Stadium when they host the Mariners August fifteenth for
Beatles Night at City Field.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
Yeah or nay, Bucky?

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
I mean, who doesn't like the Beatles? So like, yeah,
I mean that's a pretty cool little throwback moment. Anything
to provide an incentive for people to come to the park,
I'm with So, I understand it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
I say, nay. You know why, if you can't promote
the game of baseball, then there's something wrong with you.
Want you have to promote the Beatles. Everybody and their
mother promotes the Beatles, right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Every FM radio station in the world promotes the Beatles,
promote baseball, promote the game.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Geez.

Speaker 10 (01:19:08):
Well, speaking of promoting the game here, we're gonna stay
with baseball here. So Jen Powell made history Saturday when
she became the first female umpire to work a major
league regular season game. She worked both ends of a
doubleheader between the Braves and Marlin's at Truest Park.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Yeay or nail on this, Andy, I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Say yay, And I'll tell you why she's better than
a Robut and I love to see the women get
a chance. All Right, she's working and it's either her
or a Roebut take her Take Jen?

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
All right, Jen, good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
I mean it's great.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
I mean like to see us progress to the point
where she's able to call the game like it's great, terrific, right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
You know what, though, I give a credit because I
think she umpired baseball in the mono leagues for twelve years.
Twelve years. I mean most people would have packed it
in by then. But twelve years running a bus and
finally got it done.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
That's great. The only the other question I had that
they have like a separate umpire room for her.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I imagine they do with the umpires get dressed and
whatever it might be, have a locker, so the other
three are in one room and she's by herself. I
mean that's you know, you gotta you gotta talk to
the honest before the game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
You gotta get it together. But I guess maybe they
do by the walkie talkie or something.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
I don't know, right, yeah, different, I don't know. Yeah,
it's be challenging.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
I'm always thinking about the possibilities of what's happening right there.
I mean they got officials in the NFL, female officials, right.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
So yeah in the NFL, yes, yes, I don't know
if we had a head official.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Yet, right, they'll dil eventually. Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
They got they got male referees in the w NBA,
so why not have female officials? You know what, what's
the difference if they can handle it? Good Now an
NFL coach ses red, really red. We'll tell you all
about it. How Fox botsun they coming up next right here?
Or is this any way to coach? We'll get to

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that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody. This
is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Ready.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Why is it Fox Sports Sunday because today's Sunday silly.
That's why he's Bucky Brooks. I'm Indy furmanive a live.
We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports radio studios, and Bucky,
how are you? It's that time? You know, people go crazy,
they're excited about football. You know what, after the third week,
they're gonna say.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Oh, oh, you know, forget it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
They mean really, right, isn't that the way it is?
It's true, especially if their team is like, oh and three,
that's the way. The same old, same old. You come
out if you're in New Orleans and you're rooining for
the Saints, and I'm sure they are. I mean, after
the first two three games, Oh my goodness, kid really
own three Spencer Ratler quarterback. I mean, come on, really,
It's just I think they're more excited about college football

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than the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
You think you think that's what it is. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
I mean I think the NFL is a slow cook
when it comes to building up the excitement because what
we talked about the earlier hours the preseason, what it is.
You know, you talk about owners making money in an
evaluation period and sometimes you have a lot of unknowns playing.
It's it's not the same game that you see when
you get to the regular season.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
That's why some of the excitement is not there right now.

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
Whereas in college football, the only time you see your
team play is for real and when you get a
chance to see them for real.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
You're excited and you're ready to go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Now, we touched on this early on, but I want
to get into it a little deeper right now. Why
don't colleges have preseason and the pros have preseason? I
mean one of the reasons, obviously is the ownership makes
money on the preseason games, right, that's what they do.
But the colleges that go right into it, there's no preseason.
I didn't even think they have scrimmages against other colleges.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Do they?

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
I don't think they do.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
No, they don't like they get right to it, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
They get right to the action.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
So why can't the pros get right to it and
avoid the potential injuries, avoid the problems. Should he play?
Shouldn't he play? He only plays two series? I don't
get it. Doesn't It doesn't make any sense. As some
coaches have the philosophy and you read wants to play
as regulars. Patrick Maholmes plays all the time. Now, Joe
Burrow is going to play for the Bengals, but Zach
Taelo wants him to play things. It makes a difference.
Get them a fast start, I don't know. I don't

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know what the answer is, but I'd like to see
maybe eliminate the preseason go right into it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Yeah, I would prefer to see some preseason stuff. Colleges
are a little different. I would prefer for them to
play some scrimmages and some preseason games as well. I
think if you ask their coaches, they would prefer to
have some scrimmages where they can find out.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
It just makes your job tougher.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
When you don't have scrimmages and things to assess your
team before the regular season, you just don't know. So
it's a lot of speculation with your own team in
terms of which players are good, which ones aren't, because
when you're just going against yourself, you can get a
false sense of reality in terms of are we good
enough or are we not good enough?

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
In those things.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Well, I could also see the Dollars roster basically is
set when they start.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
They get right into it right now.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
A lot of NFL rosters are not set, and they
use the preseason to make their cuts and put guys
on the so cooled taxi squad because they'll see their
play or lack thereof during the preseason.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
So They use that for evaluation. That's what they do.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
I mean they do.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
But if there's fifty three guys that are on the team,
forty five have already been picked before we even stepped
foot on training camp.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
That's the reality of it. Like you kind of know
who your team is going in now.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
They're a handful of spots that are up for grabs,
and you leave one, two, three spots for some surprises.
But your team is pretty much picked. Like even I
mean there could be seventy one hundred guys there. You
know who's pretty much on the squad because you have
them ink, you have them already down in pencil almost pin.
Those other guys will wait and see you can get

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a wait and see it what it looks waiting for injuries.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
They're waiting for injuries, will be traded, that's what they're
waiting for.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Yep, there you go.

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Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
Holy smokes, I gotta shot he just kicked a setday year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Are you kidding me? Crazy?

Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
I have crazy the NFL record, that would be an
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Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
In the first half. Holy smokes, that's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
All right, Cam Little nit a seventy ard field goal
in the first half in Jacksonville's preseason game against the
Pittsburgh Steelers at ever Banks Stadium Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
That was Bucky Brooks in the background.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
I don't know who the play by play guy was,
and I don't care buy Brooks.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
All right, there you go, Brian. I can't take the
credit like he was the main one call. I'm just
heard you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Everybody heard you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
I was just providing the and he believed in it.
I'll say this, Brian believed the entire time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
He's like, I was like, there's no way they're going
to tempt this.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
He's like, oh no, he's been making him in practice
and boop, there he goes right.

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Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
But let's get it too Cam Little just a little bit.
He's a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
He's going to be twenty two years of age on
the seventeenth of this month. He was a sixth round
pick in the twenty fourth draft. He bypassed his senior
year at Arkansas. And here's a stat pretty good stat too.
He never missed an extra point when he was in college.
Never missed an extra point.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
I mean, I'm with it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
I got that. I like that. That's I mean. You
want to be money, you need you need someone who
is nails.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
He's nailed down. I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
And they called Evan McPherson money mack. I think this
kid's got it all over McPherson right now. And I
think what Cam Little has done right now. I think
he's gonna put a little pressure on other kickers.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
I think you're gonna see guys asking their coaching staff
right now, at least in preseason, give me a shot,
Give me a shot at sixty plus yards don't you
think it's gonna happen. It's gonna be a game to
see if they could do it too, don't you think?

Speaker 4 (01:27:28):
Oh yeah, I think I think without question, you're gonna
see more guys ask for those opportunities to go out
there and nail those long kicks.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
It is going to be a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
And what an offensive weapon this becomes right now. Everybody
used to talk about Justin Tucker with the Baltimore Ravens.
I mean, you know, anytime they get with it, you know,
forty forty five to fifty yards, it's almost an automatic
three points. It's an offensive weapon. Now Jacksonville has an
offensive weapon. I mean, honestly, if they're like fourth and
three on maybe the forty five yard line, whatever it

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may be, maybe in the fifty, they don't have to punt.
They gonna go for a field goal.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Yeah. I mean, look, it changes everything, like it changes
the equation. I mean, it just it just changes everything.
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
It's gonna be great to see how this impacts everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
But yeah, it changes.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
It changes the math in terms of like what you
are lined to go, how many people are gonna be
daring in bold to go after it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I dig it though. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
I love the fact that Kim was able to pull
it off because it is something where in a competitive
league you can see other kickers compete to see if
they can knock off similar things.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
And I'd like to know if somebody asked them the
question I'm gonna check you know on the internet today,
if they told to him after the game. Was it
a situation that he went to the coach that coach
I could make this, or the coach that give it
a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
I want to know what happened on that play.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
They said there was a lot of communication.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
No, there was communication between those guys asking Cam what
you think about a camp saying hey, I want a
shot at it. Give me a shot at it. If
you can get it to the fifty. Uh, I'll go
for it. And I mean to they credit preseasons game.
Got very confident in his ability to know that they
gave him a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
I love that, I really do.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Okay, I want to tell about coaches now, okay, because
you you play for some play for many actually you did.
And when I see an NFL coach, I see sometimes
I see a wild man. Sometimes I see a guy
with decorum. When I see a guy who kind of
consider a gentleman. I think I'm off Levy. I think
of Tony Dungee, all right, true gentleman. Do you think
of anybody else who maybe was maybe Bill Pushllos a gentleman?

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
I don't know, would you consider him a gentleman? Coach?

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
He's a little rough, he's a little gruff. I don't
know if I can say he's a gentleman.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
He's a little rough. Sarcasm and yeah, Andy, Andy, would
any red would qualify?

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
All right now?

Speaker 10 (01:29:50):
For sure?

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Anybody else I'm not trying to think of man Pete,
Pete Carroll.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Perhaps maybe Pete Carroll has some of that. What about
down Shula? I think down Shula?

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know what I would tell
you right now. I was a PR guy for the
four load of del Strikers, which was owned by Joe Robbie,
when Don Shula was the coach, and I kind of
helped out with the Dolphins a little bit. I used
to go to his news conferences. Oh my goodness, if
you were.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
A media guy and you shut up late, he threw
you out. People were afraid of Don Shuler. I can
imagine what the players were Oh my god, you couldn't talk.
They were afraid to ask questions at his news conferences.
I mean it was unbelievable. I mean really, it was
like almost like going to church, it really was.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
I mean I've seen him throw media people out at
Monday news conferences because they came late. You can't come
on time, get out, and he threw him out. It
was unreal. I don't think you'd ever see a Don
Shula coach do that again. I mean, it just never happened.
I don't even think Belichick would throw a guy out
if he was late. Things change, though, things are different now,

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but still, that was Don Shula really was. Now one
of them we talked about these coaches. Could you see
any of those guys do what doing? The Patriots coach
Mike Rabel did it practice the other day. He jumped
into a pile of players of practice against the Washington Commanders.
He came out with a bloody cheek. I mean, what

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is the purpose?

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
I get it, you want to catch attention there? What's
the upside of doing something like that? I mean there's
gotta be some players saying, what's coach doing? What's what's
going on here?

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Right? Don't you think it's a little crazy. What would
you do if you saw your coach jump into and
do that? Really?

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
I mean, I appreciate Mike Rabel jumping in the fray
trying to break it up, but I have learned personally,
the dog pile is not the place for the coach,
and so if guys are fighting, you get away from
him to get tired before you jump in there. You
can't jump in there with their full throttle at the beginning.
Let them fight for a few moments and then you
can jump in. If you jump in there while they're full,

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like full throttle, yeah, you're gonna come away with a
little bloody head, bloody ear some of that other stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
I don't get what the point is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
I mean, all of a sudden, your guy Drake made
a quarterback from North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
He says, that's what we're trying. The building starts with
the head.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Coach intensity, bringing it every day, taking no crap when
we're out there on the field. I mean, come on,
the mentalities. I like it, that's what you want. But
then Vrabel comes out and he had an icebag on
his right cheek. Come on, really, I mean I think
it doesn't make any sense. I mean, I get look,
I guess that's the player in him, right, I mean
just the way he played and he coaches the same

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way you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Could coach with intensity. You have to jump into the
fray when you're a coach, right. I want to hear
some stories from Bucky Brooks of some of the coaches.
Matt Brown wouldn't jump into a fray. There's no no
that in my mind when you were playing North Caroline,
Matt Brown would not. He's a gentleman. He would not
jump into a fray. There's no doubt in my mind
on that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
Uh No, he absolutely wild not into it. I do
know that about Coach Brown. He's not jumping into it.
And he's gonna be upset with us for even engaging
in that conversation. He's always gonna talk about make sure
we have class take the higher road in those things.
But yeah, he wouldn't. He wouldn't get in it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
No, what other coach I mean, I can't what coach
would jump into a fray. I'm just trying to think
one of the coaches of the National Football that would
jump in when.

Speaker 4 (01:33:11):
The would jump in, I got guys that are the
guys that are okay with it. I get it sense
that like Mike Tomlin might kind of jump in a
little bit like that, he's okay with it being a
little okay.

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
I think Dan Campbell for sure would be in he started, yeah,
like yeah, Dan.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
Campbell would absolutely get get with it, and he's okay
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Who else is a little half caught because you got
to be half crazy to get in there, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
Okay, but there's that like a guy what they consider
a players coaches, he now considered a players coach.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
I don't know. I mean, you played the game. Who
wore the players coaches?

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
Nah? I mean, but there's a there's a level of
respect that you have when guys kind of engaged. I
can see Jim Harboss kind of throwing a punch every
now and then kind of get.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
He works that with the guys. I know that in
the weight room.

Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
Yeah, I mean there's some guys I don't know, But like,
you don't want that to happen, right, You don't want
to fight, But if you're talking about the team and
how the team is, well, then you got to jump in.
And I think Rabel in this past, I think Rabel
was a high school wrestler. Buddy Fickle was was a
wrestler like and you know, just a little skeleted.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
You always want was undefeated as a wrestler.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
Yeah, yeah, you always want those guys to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
Parcels with parcels jump in.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
I mean, Big Tuna can't go in there. Big Tuna
can't jump in there, man, Big Tuna. Big Tuna's hip
is all messed up. You can't put him in there,
like you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
I can't think of another coach in the NFL that
would ever do this, really. I mean just I'm just
trying to picture top to bottom. I don't I don't
see anybody. I just uh going team by team. Denver, No,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
Think so no in the city, No, Cleveland, I don't.
I don't see any coach doing Stefanski. Maybe maybe he
could be that kind of guy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
He's not jumping in he's a league guy. He ain't
jumping in the fray.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
I thought he's away, No, okay, all right, just checking
him out, all.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Right, he's not jumping in that. Man. Some people want
to smoke. He doesn't want to smoke like that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
All right, So we got one guy. One coach rushing
on the field for action. And then we go to
the other extreme one hundred eighty degrees. One player wants
less reps in practice? Are you kidding me? Why receive
the elite neighbors of the Giants? He didn't practice on Wednesday?
He said, it's part of the process.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
Come on, really, I mean you just press?

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Now did
he say that he didn't want to press or the
Giants restricted him from practice because there's a.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
But he used the term process, the process.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
He yeah, but that process? Yeah, but that process?

Speaker 4 (01:35:52):
Is that process a Giants mandated process or one that
he initiated? Because I can tell you this, I'll tell
you this and doing the Travis Hunter thing, and I
was surprised by this, and I don't think this is
inside of trading and given secrets. The Jaguars have a
coach that signed the Travis Hunter in game right because
he's playing offense and defense.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
But they always they also have.

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
Somewhat upstairs monitoring the data in the GPS analytics stuff,
and some programs are using sports science where if the
workload is too hard on one day, they cut it
back the next day as they're trying to build a
plan that allows the guys to have adequate rest and
recovery to compete at an optimal level.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
What it sounds like is.

Speaker 4 (01:36:36):
Maybe the Giants are tracking Molik Neighbors over the course
of practice in those days in which he's running too much.
They want to make sure that they don't overload him
because when they're overloaded, that's when the injuries happen. So
maybe it's the Giants putting him on restriction as opposed
to Melik Neighbors saying, Oh, I work too hard, I
need to sit out.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
You know what, you got something there, because now I'm
reading what it said. I got the quotes over here.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
He set out the in the spring because of a
toe problem. He left practice earlier this summer when he
landed on his shoulder. But he's been out of practice
every day at training camp, including the first day of
practice this past Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
And here's the quarters do.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
We find the coaches and the training staff have this process.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
I think you're onto something here. I think you got it.
The coaches and training staff have this process that they
want me to do. They want me to have this
to be healthy. When we're ready to play.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
This is what he said at the practice on Wednesday.
So I just have to do my job and follow
the plan that they put in here. It's part of
the plan, all right. So I think you're onto something.
I think you got it. But again, this is where
the media could throw stuff out there in kind of
a backwards sort of way, and it's interpreted it differently.
And I read it the way I read it, I thought, like,

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he doesn't want to practice, he doesn't want to take reps.
I think you kind of put me on the straight
and arrow over here. But this is what starts the
viral garbage on social media and everybody's down on a
guy like Malik Neighbors, who's a pretty good receiver.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
The process was not his, it's the team's process. They
want him on that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Yeah, the team wants him on that restrictive process to
be able to see if make sure he's healthy and
ready to go. Uh, you know, I understand it. Give
me a little weird, but I certainly understand why they
would do that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
I know, all of a sudden, now, if Malik was here,
I'll apologize because I thought it was like he's saying
he doesn't want to practice anymore. I said, you got
to give me a.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
Break, And I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
He had a great year list He got over one
hundred passes, over twelve hundred yards, had seven touchdowns in
his first year as a rookie and it was all
pro I mean, he had a heck of a year.
So I think that basically the Giants want to handle
him with kid clothes because he had a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Of injuries banged up with the toe and the shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
So this is a process that the Giants and their
coaching still put them on. And it should have been
written that way, and the way I read it and
the way it was written it steam I'm like, well,
you know, I don't need to practice. I'm not taking
reps anymore. I'm cutting back.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
No, it's not that it's the Giant's not him, all right, Yeah,
I apologize Malik.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
I apologize. Really, I don't want to close the problems
with Malik. I really don't. There we go, so we'll
see what happens there and it's gonna be playing I
guess next Saturday when they play the Jets. So that's
part of the process, and that's basically what it is,
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on Fox that's our number eight seven seven nine nine
six sixty three sixty nine. And of course we're going
to have the blame Game coming up at the end
of this hour. But right now, right now, he's number four,
and he's not happy that's next. All right, It's only

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a game, right, we'll we'll get to that in just
about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman, and
we are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We're
going to have the blame Game in about I say,
ten or twelve minutes from now. And we got into
this conversation about Mike Vrabel, the coach of the New
England Patriots who jumped into the fray at practice came
out with a bloody cheek. And we're trying to figure out,

(01:40:39):
like which coaches may in fact jump into a.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
Fray like that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
And our guy Magic Mark wants to ask Bucky a
question because he thinks he has the coach.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Right, Mark, you think you.

Speaker 11 (01:40:48):
Got the guy, So Bucky, what about Demico Ryans?

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
Oh Man, Demiko?

Speaker 4 (01:40:55):
You know what, Demiko is a nice guy, but he
is the switch that he'll flip, so he he probably
would jump in there. He probably would jump in bingo.

Speaker 11 (01:41:05):
So I'm thinking about other coaches who either still still
working or not working. What about Doug Peterson? You think
he would have jump in a pile?

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
No, No, he wouldn't.

Speaker 11 (01:41:15):
Jump in Mike Tomlin would he jump in a pile?

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
He said?

Speaker 4 (01:41:18):
I said, I said, I'm thinking about But then I'm
thinking Mike Tom's a little older now, so he might
not be as as willing to kind of engage in
some of those activities.

Speaker 11 (01:41:28):
What her Edwards have jumped in?

Speaker 4 (01:41:30):
Absolutely not Herb's not going in there. Her would be yelling,
but he ain't jumping in the fray.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
Okay, no more. I got a couple Okay, I gotta
I'm thinking that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
Todd Bowles, No, Todd's not gonna jump in. Tod's gonna
be yelling at the guys.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
This guy would definitely jump in.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Brian Daboll, what's he gonna jump in? Why you see
Dave Ball's gonna jump in? What's Dave's gonna do? He's
not big, he lost some weight.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
He's skinning there. He wears ray bands on game day.
He's not up and in the fight. Antonio Pearce, Yeah,
a P would A P would jump in a A
oh everything, keep it going. Raheem Morris, I don't think

(01:42:20):
Raheem would jump in like that. Like he might be
on the perimeter, but I don't think he's gonna jump
all the way in.

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
I got one. Mike McDonald Seahawks, Hell, No, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
You know he military background, he does, right, he's been
lifting weights. He looked like he's been he's been lifting weights.
He might want to kind of get in their flexible.

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
He's got a scowl on him. Sometimes he looked tough.

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
I think, so, yeah, he gets he just looked just lookin.

Speaker 5 (01:42:48):
He's biting kneecaps. So I'm gonna say.

Speaker 4 (01:42:51):
Dan Campbell, Dan Quinn, I don't know, but you know
who you're missing, Sean McDermott.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
Sean McDermott might jump you know.

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
He a little wrestler guy like he little like yeah,
like the little wrestlers.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
I've just known from my.

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
College experience in bars now that I don't get ever
engaged in a bar fight. But wrestlers are okay with
sparkling it up every now and then.

Speaker 11 (01:43:12):
Do we already say the coach who's got a bald
head who used to be the coach of the Jets,
and he was a San Francisco coach?

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Oh, Robert sala Yeah, yeah, Robert Robert Salad defense. He
ain't jumping in. He you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
He jumping If Forty Johnson was in the poll in
the in the pile, he jumping in.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
He was chose playing Woody Johnson, he probably chose laying
Woody Johnson and Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
There you go, all right, I got I got some
information here.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
I don't know why I want to run this by you.
You talk about I said, is it only a game?

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
And we talk about Madden NFL twenty six. I never
played it?

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
Have you?

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
Is anybody here ever played Madden? Did you do you play? Oh?
I'm a Madden player? He doesn't love Madden?

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
Who doesn't love Madden? Yeah? I love Madden? Really?

Speaker 3 (01:44:00):
I just yeah, really, well, I mean, I mean, what
realistic is it? Is it that good?

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
I mean, it's real game, and it's gaming. You get
a chance to compete.

Speaker 4 (01:44:10):
I mean, but I've been playing it since it first
came out, like way back on Sega Genesis, so I've
always it's always been a part of the daily the
daily plan.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
So how many NFL players play this? I mean how
much stock do they be?

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
All of pretty much all of them, like the majority
of the majority of them.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
Yeah, like, because the big deal is to get your your.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
Rating, and if you're one of those who's good enough
to get in the ninety nine club, you get the
ninety nine ice chain all that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Yeah, it's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Well, Patrick Mahomes is the fourth rated quarterback in this
year's game, and he got a ninety five, And the
ratings went like this, Josh Allen a quarterback number one,
Lamar Jackson, and Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (01:44:48):
So I got to ask, how are these players rated?

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
I mean, like just same thing, like a like they
have a scouting thing. They'll lean into some scouts and
stuff I've participated in in the in it in the past. Yeah,
they have guys that are ratings gurused. I mean they
treated just like you would scouting a team in real life.
And when you talk about Pat Mahomes being fourth, he

(01:45:15):
may not like that, but he is.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
He didn't like he was quoting. So I like playing Madden.
I'd like to have been rated higher.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
He says, forget this, I got to play and showcase
that stuff on the field. I believe I go out
there and play the football I want to play. We
can get to a ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
He's more concerned about getting to a ninety nine and
getting back to the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
It's unbelievable. I didn't think Madden was not big of
a deal.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
It is a big deal because he's been disrespected.

Speaker 4 (01:45:38):
In essence, they said he's the fourth best quarterback, and
I think we all can agree that the mount rushmore
quarterbacks right now are those four names that you talked about,
Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow and Pat Mahomes. But
it's probably the first time that we have Pat Mahomes
as the caboose. He's the last member of that and
he's not a ninety nine. I could see that being

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disrespectful from someone who's accomplished as much.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
As he had. But let's let's be honest, Andy, he
he hasn't played.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
He didn't play like a ninety nine last year. Their
offense isn't fun. It's not fun. We want to make
the offense fun again. How can you made the Chiefs
fun again?

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
But he did say, also on the heels of that remark,
he's not going to be bringing his own smelling souls
to games this year.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
We talked about so that's good. But he doesn't get
hit that much. He says he likes to get hit once.
He didn't get hit yesterday. He wanted to get hit
once just to get get back into it, he says.
He said, I'm not a big smelling soul kind of guy,
so I'm not really hitting people. Though I know people
use those enough for bad reasons. He's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
I don't know Patrick Mahomes from Adam. Do you know
him personally? Have you talked to him?

Speaker 4 (01:46:46):
Yeah, like going all the way back to when he
was coming out of Texas Tech. He came on the
podcast a few times. He's great. I've met him a
few other times. He was a major sponsor contributor to
Black College Hall of Fame, the Legacy Bowl that has
played every year annually in New Orleans in February. He
was a big behind the scenes contributed to that. So yeah,

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he's been around.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
A few times.

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
Love what he does and who he is and what
he represents.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
He seems like a wonderful, good natured guy. And after
a loss he'll go over to the opposing quarterback on Huggum.
I've always seen that on the field. I mean, he's
just a good guy and I like him. He's probably
never disrespectful to media. He's probably always available. I'm sure
he is right. But if we were on at a
different hour and not on a Sunday on a game day,
I bet that he'd come on the radio with us.

Speaker 4 (01:47:35):
Yeah, I don't know if he would come on the radio.
But he's a good guy. I'll say he's a good guy.
He'll do those things. He is about it. I think
the one thing about him which is why he's so
great is his relatability with so many different people. While
also having and displaying superstar talent.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
He's unique.

Speaker 3 (01:47:53):
And you talk about superstar potential legends and the mount
rushmore like, let'll talk about quarterbacks. Let's talk about Tom Brady,
you know, and the Patriots on Tom Brady statue. Yeah
outside of you Let Stadium, twelve foot statue at you
Let Stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
You know what I say, shame on you. Where the
hell is Bill Belichick? They should have been together. There
should have been Belichick and Brady. They won those super
Bowls together, and it bothers me. And you know that
Robert Kraft did it to spite Belichick and didn't put
Belichick on it. Belichick should have a statue. He should
be there with Brady. Don't you agree? You've got to

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agree to that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
Oh my gosh, I mean whatever it is, man.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
Tom Brady, Thomson Rifford, Captain America, seven rings, six of
those with the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
I mean that Belichick got the same amount of rings
of the Patriots with him.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
He was his coach.

Speaker 4 (01:48:46):
He did, but then they fell off so bad poorly
at the end, they just fell off. I mean, I
understand Tom Brady going in first. I mean, now that
statue was huge. The only thing about the statue I
felt like the head was a little disproportionate.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
To the bike.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
It look like him, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
I mean it's hard.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
It's hard to it's hard to make a statue look
like the person. Oh, one day, when I get a
statue wherever that statue is, maybe a Fox Sports we
get Fox Sports. Ready, we get a little statue. Oh,
this statue is fairly it's fairly accurate.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
Yeah, Fox Sports Hall of Fame. What are the qualifications?
It is important? Now, what are the qualifications for a statue?
I mean, how many years must you be with one
team to qualify for a statue? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
Does Brady get a statue in Tampa? He won a
Super Bowl in Tampa, then he put a statue up there.

Speaker 4 (01:49:32):
He should he should get a little statue. It doesn't
have to be as big as the one in New England.
But maybe a little mini that kind of hangs out
in the garden. I'm sure there's a beer garden somewhere,
like they can put like a little mini Tom Brady's statue.
He won a super Bowl one year, I mean, like
he was there. They want it. I would be okay
with him be in the statue. I think the qualifications
are you have to be great and unquestioning greatness and excellence,

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and you're played with that team but for.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
More than one year, right, I mean Aaron Rodgers should
get a statue in Green Bay. He won a Super
Bowl there and he played for several years now, right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
I don't know if we can give a set.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
I'm not a big fan of Aaron. Look I'm not,
but you gotta respect what he did, what he accomplished.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:50:13):
But the Okay, I'm gonna tell you what they would
tell you when you walk in the building. There's been
a lot of great players that have won that uniform.
Paul Horning, I mean RAYNIZI I mean Forrest Gred, I
mean there are a lot a lot of a lot
of bart Starr bred Far I mean Reggie White. There
are a lot of great players. And he's a great player,
so he can put his name up in the thing

(01:50:34):
he is, but a statue in title town. Listen to
that title town where you have to win titles.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
For the town. He won one. One, he won one.
He won one.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
So here's the deal. Then, does Eli Manning get a
statue in New York? He won two.

Speaker 4 (01:50:53):
I mean he'll get one because he's beloved by that
franchise and that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
Like he can get it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:58):
But the qualifications are different for the Giants in the Packers.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
What are you saying the Packers have a highest standard?
Is that it player?

Speaker 4 (01:51:08):
Well, I'm just saying, like everything in Green Bay goes
back to the days of Lombardi, right, And do they have.

Speaker 3 (01:51:16):
A statue of Lombardi at Lambeau? I don't know. I've
never been to Lambo.

Speaker 4 (01:51:20):
I think on the back corner, like there there is one. Yeah,
because I've taken a picture with it. Yeah, there's a
there's a statue of Vince Lombardi there, Like you got
to be a that statue to get a to get
a statue in Green Bay. I don't think Aaron Rodgers,
despite his full time MVP status is one time Super
Bowl champion status. I don't think he's going to reach

(01:51:43):
the level of Vince Lombardi in that. But far doesn't
even have a statue.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
I don't think I would say this, and maybe I'm mistaken.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
You know, back in the day, they didn't hand out
statues like they're handing out pieces of chewing gum like
they're doing now statues right now? Is that they're a
diamond does Isn't it true? That seems like everybody who's
done something that's getting a statue and you have to
play for a team for X amount of years to qualify. Now,
I'm talking about Cincinnati because I live in the Cincinnati market.
Marty Brenneman is a Hall of Fame announcer. Right announced

(01:52:13):
the Cincinnati Reds for forty six freaking years.

Speaker 3 (01:52:16):
He got a statue. You got a statue in front
of the ballpark, which I think is deserving.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
I mean, he brought a lot of enjoyment and pleasure
to people in fans and promoted the team for years
forty six years, okay, and people kind of followed the
Reds thanks to him, thanks to him. So I have
no problem with Marty Burnman getting a statue. But you know,
how do you qualify someone getting a statue?

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
Right? I just I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
I mean, you have to do you have to get
a trend?

Speaker 4 (01:52:42):
Yeah, I think you have to be a transcendent member
of the franchise in whatever capacity, meaning that your name
is anonymous with that franchise, and it's anonymous with that
franchise with.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
The excellence in your role or your duty.

Speaker 4 (01:52:59):
So when you talk about Marty Brenneman getting the statue,
I can understand.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
The Carolina guy. By the way, North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Marty Brennan I did not know he was a target big.

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
He went there and he's a big fan.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
Okay, So we talked about him being synonymous with that
team in that franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
I understand that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:19):
Who is the guy that was the longtime voice of
the Pittsburgh Steelers, Marion Cope, Maron Cole. Yes, okay, So
he would be one where you have like the bronze
microphone that you would put up.

Speaker 1 (01:53:32):
But it has to be someone that is legendary like that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:35):
We don't want to just pass out statues where they're
like trophies where everyone gets one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
There has to be some special accomplishments. Uh, they go
along with it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Well, I'll tell you what bothers me.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
I've written several letters to city councilmen and the mayors
of since they want to say mayors are different terms
of different mayors to get a street named after Oscar Robertson,
And I'm still waiting.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
They do have a statue in front of the arena
of the big O. But you got to get in now.
Pete Rose has a street named after him. I need
a street named after the big old Oscar Robertson before
he passes. He's eighty four years old, before he passes.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
I want to see a street in Cincinnati called Oscar
Robertson Way.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
I want to see it. He deserves it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
Look, Oscar Robinson is a legend.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
Now we're gonna put it in Cincinnati because of the
work that he did with was Cincinnati Royals. Is that
that's what we played with? Yeah, like that's what we
want to I mean, I mean, I'm okay. Now it's
been a minute. If they're going to give him a statue,
they probably should't give him statue of a while ago.
But I understand he is deserving of it. I just

(01:54:42):
probably would have preferred them to give it to him
sooner rather than later, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
And I find something very foolish at times when players
are in national halls of fame before they're in their
own colleges hall of fame.

Speaker 3 (01:54:59):
I see some like that.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
Before, before before the university. So right, I think in
North Carolina, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Yeah, I think Sandy Colfax was in Cooperstown before he
was in the University of Cincinnati Hall of Fame. I
maybe you certainly had a great career as a pro
with the Dodgers, maybe better a career as a pro
than he did as a college player.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
Maybe that's why I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:55:22):
Yeah, there's something, Yeah, there's something to that part of it,
you know, like there there is that. But like for instance,
at North Carolina, you talk about being in the Hall
of Fame or whatever, but for instance the basketball team, man,
I think you had to be a unanimous All American
or Wooden Player the Year award winner to have your
your jersey go up in the rafters like it's a high,

(01:55:45):
like high levels of accolades, significant accolades before you can
go to Just don't slap anybody's name and number up
in the rafters, just like the Hall of Fame status.

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:55:57):
I mean, look, you got your guys, Jordan and like
Sam Perkins, James Worthy, you have the old guys. Uh
they used to be in there, the legends, they are
all in there. But you have to be do You
have to be a notable player to get up in there.
And I think that's how it should be. It should
be an exclusive club.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
I'm with you right there, Bucket Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
He's exclusive right here every Sunday on Andy fermanwee a
Fox Sports Sunday on Fox.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
Spitt's ready, Okay, okay, don't hold back. Who did it?

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
The blame game is freaking next. All right, the blame
game coming right up. He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman.
We are Fox Sports Sunday of Fox Sports Radio live
from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
And remember about eleven minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
From now, which would be the top of the hour,
which is nine am in the East Coast Countdown with
Brian No No, Brian No, Jeff Schwartz Schwartze, and Bill Krapnenberg.

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
But right now it's time for the blame game.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
You ruin me. It's all your fault. No, it's your fault.

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
Bring them all your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
Maybe it's everyone's fault. She's a liar. That's why there's
the blame game. Let's figure out who to blame. Yeah,
he's a liar.

Speaker 8 (01:57:07):
Here he is?

Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
God, Hey, little dates are you baby?

Speaker 10 (01:57:10):
All right? I've been truthful all day today. But fine, fine,
blame me for that one. So I got one for
us today. So yesterday was the Cowboys had a preseason
game on the sidelines, not playing with Ceedee Lamb. Well,
a funny thing occurred here. A ref ran and shrucked

(01:57:30):
Ceedee Lamb from behind, and it was really really funny.
They got it on camera.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
Who do you blame for that?

Speaker 8 (01:57:36):
Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
I blame ce D Lamb because the ref probably didn't
like him. I'm sure CD mit Lamb probably gave him
the bird one time during a game last year, so
you got a shot to get him back.

Speaker 3 (01:57:45):
That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
That's why I blame Cee D. Lamb's his fault. Get
out of the way. You know the guy doesn't like it.
Get out of the way.

Speaker 4 (01:57:55):
Yeah, look at Ceedee Lambs for he has to be
aware on the field where he's at. He can't, he
can't be in the action, so he has to get
up the way. Refere he's not looking at him, nor
should he be looking for him.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
So that's cd lamps fault.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
You know what, It's true.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
We guess that watching the Vikings game, justin Jefferson's doing
the broadcast with the guy on the field, he had
no idea what's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
On the field.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
He's told that the guy opened the booth his rate
bands over and he gave him a pair of rate bands.

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
Whatever the heck he game Minu.

Speaker 10 (01:58:21):
That was really cool with Justin Jefferson. But I'll take
my bias out of that aside.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
I like Justin Jill.

Speaker 5 (01:58:27):
I like him too.

Speaker 10 (01:58:28):
Well, we'll go away from the NFL. We're gonna go
to kind of baseball. The Savannah Bananas are losing over
two hundred thousand per game. Who do you blame, Bucky?

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
They're losing over two hundred thousand dollars per game. Yes,
I think they're trying to be too big.

Speaker 4 (01:58:45):
Like it was a cute, little niche situation where people
would come see them, they would do all the dancing.
But now they're on this tour and they talk about
announcing tour to go even more worldwide.

Speaker 1 (01:58:57):
Just keep the main thing the main thing. I think
they try to do too much too So I gotta
blame the accountant.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
Get a hold of this guy, because I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
You know what happened in Jacksonville with the guy at
the business manager is the imprison right now stealing money
from the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Watch the accountant guy all of a sudden, now he's
driving a big car.

Speaker 10 (01:59:15):
Watch this guy, well, another guy we need to watch
or just people to watch, is we didn't mention major
League baseball game between the Reds and the.

Speaker 5 (01:59:25):
Braves at Bristol Racetrack last week.

Speaker 10 (01:59:28):
So here's the thing, though, guys, they ran out of
hot dogs in the first first inning and had a
two and a half hour rain delay after that.

Speaker 5 (01:59:40):
Who do you blame on that?

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Andy?

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
Some moron who's the concessionaire's probably major League Baseball?

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:59:46):
Why is major League Baseball getting involved with things they
don't know nothing about, like concessions? Really, let the concession
here from the Bristol Racetrack angler. How do you run
out of freaking hot dogs in.

Speaker 3 (01:59:56):
The first inning?

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
We know the crowds could be eighty thousand plus. Embarrassing.
It's an embarrassment, it really is. It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
Shame on you.

Speaker 4 (02:00:05):
Yeah, shame on dear. Someone did a poor job of entory.
You should never run out of hot dogs in a
first inning. Whoever was on manager or duty the night
before it didn't do a good job of checking in.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
But you can't run out hot dogs first inning.

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
But did they run out of buns or just the
hot dogs that I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
Well, if you got too many buns and not enough
hot dogs, that's a problem too.

Speaker 5 (02:00:23):
That's a problem.

Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
I got you a bunch. I don't wonder about that,
all right.

Speaker 10 (02:00:26):
Well, The Minnesota Vikings will be without starting wide receiver
Jordan Addison for the first three games of the twenty
twenty five season because he was suspended by the NFL
for violating the league's substance abuse policy, which was a
result of his arrest in July last year for suspicion
of driving under the influence. Who do you blame, Bucky, I.

Speaker 4 (02:00:46):
Blame Jordan Adison for sniffing us smelling sauce while he
was driving.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
He was trying to be coherent and he tested.

Speaker 4 (02:00:53):
Positive because of the smelling sauce got him. It's the
smelling sauce fault.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Oh, he only fell asleep driving the car, Big Dean.
Was he suspended? Let him play, Let him play, Give
him a shot. You know, if he wasn't a football player,
he got a shot. But at stay tuned. We'll see
you next week. Count down next

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