01/30/2021 – The Fellas with Anthony Gargano and Kevin Figgers - Fox Sports Radio

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Good morning, Buddy, Happy Habby, Habby,
Handy Habby Sports Saturday with the Fellas. I'm Anthony Gargano.
Big Link is off today, but we're gonna have a

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good morning. I'm Anthony Gargano and Big Link is off today.
And so we were talking about who sits in the
Big Fellas chair, and I thought it would only be
perfect the Sitney chair, one of our own fellas. That's right,
Kevin figures, fig Yeah, what's going on? And I got

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some some big shoes to fill literally and figuratively filling
in for our guy, Big Link. But I am honored
and privileged to be able to do it, uh and
do it with you, So I appreciate the opportunity. Well,
let's first of all, you do it every week, all right,
Like you know, fellas, we are an ensemblecast and uh

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we we you do it every week. We love you
you figure like this, Brady right, my homes got baby Goat,
we got h O f Rader, we got baby h
O f Raider. I wish you're at least of God's ears.
I'll take it, though, needless to say, is a better
opportunity for me to fill in for Link in this

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form than it would have been to fill in for
him with his back in his playing days, because I
would have been absolutely more. You're more running back, very
true running back than the big man with the offensive line.
So my brother lots to get to today, and I
want to start off with because it's, you know, the
week before the super Bowl, and we'll get ready to

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talk all about super Bowl Sunday next week. But it's
a tail of a couple of quarterbacks making the rounds
from yesterday and and fig when we see the curious
cases of the Shawn Watson and Carson Wentz and what

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happens to these two quarterbacks one we know has already
requested a trade one and the Shawn Watson who's requested
the trade. But David Culley, who I know from the Eagles,
who was on John Harball staff, Hardball brought him from
Andy Reid staff yet another leaf on it reached. Tree

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gets the job in Houston, and David Colley right away says,
I love DeShawn Watson. I don't know whatever what what's
going on, but I want DeShawn Watson as a Houston Texan.
He made sure fig to say that DeShawn Watson will
be a taxon. Yeah, and this public contest is going

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back and forth now and now knows Deshaun Watson as
I said anything, but it's people from his camp leaking
certain things to the media. DeShawn doesn't want to be there.
There's an issue with this easter be character that people
know very little about. And the Texans have been pretty
quiet across this entire process. So now you fast forward
to Friday, the first time they do make public comments,
and they're saying, oh, he's talking about we want to

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trade this guy. He's one of the best quarterbacks in
the league. I took this job with the intention of
coaching Deshaun Watson. He's not going anywhere, So I think
this is just public posturing on both sides. The Texans
saying you're not gonna stronger on must into making some
sort of deal that we don't want to make you
may want to leave, it's not our intention for you
to leave at this point in time. And you get
to go when we say you get to go. Whether

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it's smart or not, now that's a different discussion, but
that's clearly what's happening right now. Yeah, don't you think
the best way to deal with this is for David
Culley and probably the general manager who there was a
beef over anyway he's hiring that the two of them

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go knock on his door and they go, sure, listen,
I don't know what's going on, And I get it.
You gotta beef with you know, is easter be and
then McNair the whole thing right, it's what can we do?
What can we do to smooth this over? What can

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we do to put all this behind us? It's a
new regime. O'Brien's out, We love you. What do we
gotta do? And can you approach it from a completely
humanistic away from that? From that standpoint, yeah, and that's
how you should do it. The the approach is just

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as you described. Look, we weren't here. I can't speak
to what happened with Bill O'Brien. The Doddre Hopkins trade
was ridiculous. We weren't here for all that. This is
a new regime. I know McNair told you you would
be involved in the hiring process, and you apologize without
not working itself out the way it should have. Tell
us what we need to do, tell us where the
missteps are with the organization, and now that we're here,

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let's work collaboratively to try to fix these things. That's
the best way that they can possibly do it, because
they don't want to trade him. He's a generate, generational player.
Probably Look how great of a season he had this
past year without having a lot to work with. It's amazing. Yeah,
imagine you traded the Adre hoppcase. You got nothing, You

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got nothing. Yeah, and his numbers were spectacular. The team
wasn't good, but his numbers were great. You have a
generational player like that, you do everything in your power
to be able to keep him. So they actually are
in a in a great position right now to be
able to sit him down and talk to him and
tell him, I don't know what happened in the past,
I wasn't here for that. I can't control that. We
can control what's happening right now moving forward. I mean, look,

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great players have requested trades in the past and it
didn't happen. I remember a Chemolajuwan back in the day.
He had a contract dispute with Houston, This is before
they won their championships, and he requested a trade. They
were able to smooth that out. He stayed and one championships.
Kobe Bryant requested a trade from the Lakers, got booed
at Staples Center on Opening Night after requesting a trade.
They didn't trade him. They traded four pal Gasol ended

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up winning two straight championships. There is precedence for being
able to come in and smooth some of these situations over,
but for the public, belief is well, Deshaun Watson asked
for a trade, you gotta get rid of him. Do
Scranto star James Harden just did the same thing. You're
gonna to do the exact same thing with Deshaun Watson
I did. The leverage is different in the NFL than
it is in the NBA when it comes to these

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sorts of situations. So I do think the Texans have
a little more leverage. Notwithstanding in the trade, the no
trade clause that he has. But I think they have
more leverage with the Texans than the Rockets or any
other team of the NBA may have when it comes
to superstar players. Yeah, I agree. Well, first, as we know,
the NBA is a players and agents league, so the
agents can orchestrate trades. They can go to work on

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a salary cap, manipulate the salary cap, figure out a
way to compensate. I mean, they'll go get third parties
to come in and orchestrate trades, draw up proposals that
might evolve into the team. NFL, like you said, does
not work that way and it But who's the Texans

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to keep? Now we'll discuss, if not Houston, then whom.
But to your point, but I look at it, and
to me, you never get fair value for a player
of that elk, especially a quarterback. No, how could you.
Peop were talking about three first round picks, four first

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round picks, all of that. It was like, well, there's
the chances are very few and far between there you're
gonna find somebody to match the level of Deshaun Watson,
who was an m v P type talent at the
quarterback position. Right now, there's no way that you trade
a player like that if you can find any way
possible to keep him the determined. Also, if you're from
their standpoint, people are drawing the parallel to Carson Palmer.

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Remember when he retired, he says, trade me or I'm
gonna retire, and the Bengals called his bluff and he
actually retired until they got the deal they wanted from
the Raiders, which was a couple of first round picks.
But people forget Carson Palmer was already a couple of
years into a second deal. He had already been paid,
And if you retire, you have to pay back your
bonus money. Deshaun Watson is in year one of that

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big extension he just signed. He hasn't made a lot
of big money yet every single time that he has
pocketed from the signing bonus from that from that contract,
he has to pay back. He hasn't gotten his giant
paid day yet. I think that's a big leverage point
that Deshaun Watson just doesn't have right now. So if
you're the Texans and he says I'm gonna retire or
I'm not gonna First of all, if he doesn't report,
they can find him, which they will, and if he retires,

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they stay, fine, give us our money back and to
see how long. How long he's willing to wait that out.
My guess is not very long. So I think he
has a lot less leverage, and people believe he actually has. Yeah,
I listen, I agree with you, I really do. And
the and the other issues when we talk about value. See,
you know, when you look at a Deshaun Watson, you're right,

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like the the the idea of fair value and return,
it's three four number one picks. But the issue is
you can't get you don't have teams in the NFL.
You can't afford to give up three four one number ones.
That's not the NBA, where it doesn't really matter. You
can go fix it with with some free agents. When

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you're when you're a title team and you're at the top,
you're a top four conference team, well you don't Rookies
aren't gonna win anyway for you, so you don't need
young players. But the NFL you have to. You have
to have impactful drafts on both sides of the ball
because it's the only way you can have roster construction

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within that kind of salary cap. Yeah, and then there's
been a lot of metrics on the value of first
round picks versus other picks, and all these studies that
have been done over recent years, and a lot of
first round picks don't end up working out, or at
least working out to the value that you place them at.
So what what is the true value of a number
one pick that's in the twenties somewhere versus a high

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second rounder. It's really not that big of a difference.
You know. Again, this is an established player that has
proven himself at the NFL level for a bunch of
guys that you have no idea how they're gonna pay
themselves out. So it's but to me, though, there is
a limit, right, Like when you look at too, you go,
all right, it's palatable. But once you get to three
slash four, Now, all of a sudden, what are the

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odds are there much greater for me to hit, say
two out of four impactful players in the first round,
And like, I can't control certain things over a four
year window, like health, you know, what's the status of
you know, uh, like defense? So the issue becomes it's

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just a numbers game in the NFL. So many more
impactful players in the NBA, you got one guy to
can impact the team, like say hard right, it takes
you having having to have a savvy front office. I
think the Rams are a perfect example. They haven't had
a number one pick since Jared Golf and I believe
they traded two number one picks to get him to

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move up in the draft to take him. They haven't
had a number one pick since then, but it certainly
has an impact that their ability to be and stay competitive.
And I think that savvness between from their front office
with with less need and and Sean McVeigh. But I
think I think their example is probably more of an
an exception to the rule than the actual norm. Most
of the time, I'm you're real leveraging a lot of

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your future assets for one player unless that player you
know is even if that player is a super impactful quarterback. Look,
we just said it a second ago. As great of
a season at Deshaun Watson hedge want four games. So
in the grand scheme, what does it really mean if
the if the team around him isn't good enough. Yep, totally.
I will get into all of potential suitors to DeShawn Watson.

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We will get a two Carson Wentz and what happens there,
because it was an entirely different story yesterday when the
Eagles introduced their new coach. So we'll talk. I want
to get into that too. I got I also lost
a dear, dear friend of mine. I can imagine. Uh

(12:47):
he was a legendary happened to be a legendary basketball
coach and he was an incredible man. And I'm gonna
tell you about him. And uh, I'm still sat over
a fig John Cheney. We lost the legend yesterday, and
I want to talk about that. We want to talk

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about the Cardinals trade for Nelson Ronaldo. We got lots
to do. Figgy, Is it for Biggy? Link? Because that's it, baby,
We're the fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio. Fellas
I'm causing for Link Kevin Figures lovingly referred to as Figgy.

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I told the story a long time and when when, uh,
when Kevin start to work with us. I grew up
with a kid named Figgy. I think it was his nickname.
The last name was figure elli Hey, and he just
called Figgy. He was like, Figgy's at the door, what's
Figgy doing? And he was a really likaball really really

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likable dude, really good personality. And I just when when
I we met fake When fag started doing the show
with Lincoln, I I was like, I love this dude.
He's the best man, and it reminds me of Faggy.
So I started calling you Fagging and you graciously indulge me. Oh,
I appreciate it, brother, YO, know it means a lot.
I saw My nickname back in the day was actually

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Big fig because I used to be very, very very heavy. Um,
people have started calling me slim fig now because I've
lost a little bit of weight. But but Figgy works
as well. No, I hadn't been hit with figgy before.
But you know what, I like it, So it's it's stuck.
We actually have a lot of people in the building
here at Fox Sports Radio will call me figging out
because of that, because of the nickname you've bestowed to me.

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So I will gladly take it. It works for me.
It was funny with h We have a great ball
Scotch a parents fantastic, he's the best. Yeah, he's great, dude,
Like he's one of these guys just cool, like you go, dude,
I'll do anything for you because you're earring says you've
got our back. It's so I referenced you as figuring
in and like he rolls, he rolls right with it, man.

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Like you know, it wasn't like, oh great, we got
fake god cool. So it's, uh, it's awesome. That's what
a team it's supposed to be. Like we always like
to view, uh, the line up here at Fox Sports
Radio that spans the country as a team, right, it's

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no different than than any of them, and uh, and
it always works with there's some harmony in the team,
you know what I'm saying, no doubt, no doubt a
team to a certain degree like a family as well,
especially when you get to work with people for a
long period of time. I've been with you and Lincoln
for I believe it's been about four or five years now.
You know, you work closely with you guys, and you know,

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every now and then, you guys grace us with your
presence here in the studios. It's always that's always a trade.
So you got how is the Hollywood stuff working for you?
By the way, I know, obviously last year was tough.
You had some scripts working, you had a film working,
kill that yeah. I mean, you know, and you can
see what's going on in productions and they're just getting
back to it and the hours. It's not a studio film,

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so you can't shoot it, you know, in a studio.
It's on location. So it was it was tough. We Uh,
I'm funny. I had I had a call last night,
um with an exact so about a possible TV series,
so that I was that had been working on that's

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related to it's a peri piece about crime in Philadelphia.
Are you better to talk to about that? Yeah? When
you grew up around and you see it, it's fun
and it's especially from back to day. It's it's it's
very interesting, uh for story purposes. By the way, where

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the Fellas and uh, listen, we're live from the Farmers
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your auto insurance. So I'll speak of my hometown yesterday
because yesterday the Eagles introduced their new head coach, Nick

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Seriani fig and he was asked about Carson Wentz, and
Carson Wentz has been quiet since he basically got bench.
He didn't speak at the end of the year. Uh,
there's all kinds of reports he was unhappy with Doug Peterson.

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He and there's a there's a couple of damning stories
about him about how he's been he was kind of
petulant and all this stuff. I meanwhile, he has not
defended himself. He has not said a word about it,
other than he appeared yesterday to to congratulate or to

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vote for lobby for his teammate Rodney McCloud for NFL
man in the year. It was a sponsored uh it
scram video for nationwide. So he hasn't said anything. Serrianti
comes in and he was very excitable. Fig. I don't
know if you got to hear any of his news conference. Yeah,

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he was the butt of some jokes on Twitter who
said he was sounded like he was in over his head.
Maybe he was just a little excited that I don't
I don't know if you can take a whole lot
from a lot of these press conferences. We talked about
this last week with Dan Campbell and the biting off
the kneecaps and whether that was over the top. And
I don't read too much into Nick Sirianni looking as
if he was maybe a little bit nervous. Maybe he was,

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maybe he wasn't, maybe he was just really amped up.
But I know that made the rounds on social media
on Friday, saying they hired this guy. He can't even
control the press conference, which I thought was a little
over the top. But that's some of the assessments that
people had of him, because view like his press conference. Yeah,
I'll be honest, really, yeah, he didn't win the pre
he lost the first game. Yeah, press conference one serianty noven,

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you know, and like you listen, I'll never judge anybody
off of an introductory news conference. It is what it is, right.
But the problem, and this is a huge problem, is
that in that town, the head coach of the Eagles
is bigger than mayor. It is a huge it's a

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huge job, and you have to have a certain temperament
and you gotta be strong, you gotta be a CEO
or else you'll get eating alive. And he did not.
He seemed rather youthful what he is, and a little
and listen, God bless him. He was excited and he

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you know, thanked everybody like you won the Nobel Peace Prize,
and he kind of went on and on and on
and on, and I was like, yo, dude, like what
do you what do you think about Wentz? Al Right,
that's all anybody cares about. He's what are you gonna
do with the quarterback? And he obviously was instructed not
to speak on the quarterback and that became an issue

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because people are like, dude, what do you mean You
haven't had a chance to look at tape? Like stop,
like stop not, it's nonsense. Give me a break now
when you get to the point you're talking about being
instructed just independent of the quarterback situation in and of itself,
just the power structure within the Philadelphia Eagles. And you
know this better than anyone else. I mean, they felt

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they basically felt like a lot of people feel he
was hired to be a puppet for how he roseman,
And that's the exact reason why they hired him. They
wouldn't have hired someone who was strong willed or would
build their own program from when you know, from the
outside and bring their own people in. They essentially wanted
a yes man. Do you feel that that assessment is accurate? Well,
it's listening to these conference seems like it, right, I mean,

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it's kind of hard to argue that fact that they
wanted a guy, you know. I mean again, it's hard
to call him a puppet, but someone that control, who
was impressionable, who's just happy to be here, happy to
have an NFL coaching job. See, I I don't think
you needed to go completely opposite because Doug Peterson was

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that guy. Remember, Like, the thing that's quild about this
whole story is that three years ago, Doug Peter. That's it.
Three years ago from right now, Doug Peterson won the
Super Bowl. Right we're coming up on the three year anniversary.
We haven't even reached it yet with a backup quarterback,

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by the way, right, Like, and listen, I didn't think
Doug was a good XIO coach. Uh. And something tells
me that Nick Serriani probably knows football. He probably is
a guy that that's pretty good exc and he you know,
started on the Frank Reich. But I mean, I mean,
the issue is you gotta come in here and you

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gotta be able to wear to suit, you know what
I'm saying. And that and if Peterson, who wanted Super Bowl,
crumbled like he crumbled this year, fig and that's a
guy who's sitting on his Super Bowl who everybody in
this in my town was grateful. In fact, they've been

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over backwards up until this year to defend them. Now
this year he lost that, and this could be a
rather harsh city. And I just want to go, what's
this do gonna come in here? Who without the benefit
of his Super Bowl and be a management guy. I

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don't know how that's gonna fly. Yeah, how do you know?
Xs and ols? Everybody who comes up as a coordinator
to get to the NFL level or even a position coach,
you obviously have some expertise and exces and os, but
being a head coach is completely different. You're gonna be
you could be one of the worst guys as exces
and os, but be able to motivate men, be able
to lead man, be a the eover franchise. That's what

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a head coach actually is. So you're white, You're right.
I wonder if Nick Sirianni actually has the chops to
be able to do that, especially in a place like Philadelphia.
That will turn on you quick. You mentioned Peterson was
was a lotted as a hero a couple of years ago,
and they couldn't get him out of town fast enough.
You know, they get off to a slow start this year,
regardless of who the quarterback is. And Nick Sirianni sounds

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flustered during a press conference or two. I mean, how
long is this gonna last for him? Yeah? Listen if
they're not good? Yeah, you know, and that is uh,
that's gonna be a thing. Now. It tells me that
they're gonna go all in on a rebuilt. So it
tells me that Wentz is out. Now. I don't know,

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it's just reading the tea leaves seeing how Sirianni, Like
you heard David Culley, David Coach said I love DeShawn Watson.
Nick sirian didn't say that about Carson Wentz. Nope, he
was not middle of a bow Wentz or Hurts. What's
that saying to me that you know they're gonna move Wentz? Yeah,

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because I mean you would normally. This is just like
the Rams with you know, with Jared Golf. Here's your
franchise quarterback. You just gave a giant extension to both guys.
By the way, taken back to back in the same
draft that both guys have received giant extensions and have
no votes of confidence from their front offices. So if
you're making that kind of money and they won't give
you a vote of confidence, that tells you all you
need to hear. They don't have to say it explicitly.

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They're telling you with what they're not saying. At that point,
let me think about that. Think about golf. Who is
any super Bowl? Right Wentz who led his team to
the precipice of the Super bowls hurt when the team
actually wanted. But those two guys, taken back to back,
had brought their team to a super Bowl, and now

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they're gonna be out of their town. That it's something
to think about thinking this is some trending and then
we'll continue. All right, we'll get to some NBA here.
The Jazz when they're eleventh game in a row, they
are red hot. They defeated the Dallas Mavericks, who are
not red hot. They've been struggling mightily recently. One on
one was the final score. Donovan Mitchell didn't even play

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for Utah boy on Bogdanovitch thirty two points. Remember, he
missed a lot of the second half of last year
with an injury. He's now back in the mix for them.
They're a dangerous team. They have the best record in
the NBA at this moment. Spurs got thirty points from
DeMar de Rosen. They defeated the Diner Nuggets. The Nets
scored a hundred and forty seven points without Kevin Durant
in the line up, still not playing much defense. They

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gave up one twenty five to Oklahoma City, who can
be offensively challenged at times, but one one five who
in these defense? If you can score a hundred and
fifty points. Uh. Joel Embatta ask you yeah? Coming up
about Harden and sharing the ball in close games. I
love he saw the stat the shot rate and the

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share rate inside three minutes he close games of Brooke.
I did not see that stat. There might be an
issue there. Interesting, Okay, we'll have to get into that.
Joel Emba thirty seven points despite that messed up back
hammered Minnesota. Uh. The The Sixers hammering Minnesota on Friday
night as well as inb score thirty seven in about
twenty seven minutes of action. Paul George Kawhi Leonard back

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in the line up for the Clippers as they dominate
at the Magic Nick, Hornets and Kings with victories and
a big tin tilt. In basketball, Illinois outlastedt Iowa eight
to seventy five, and Ken Roseenhal reporting the Rockies have
agreed to trade all star third baseman Nolan Erinado to St. Louis,
pending approval from the Union and MLB. And in golf
at the Farmers Insurance Open, Victor Haveln with a one

(26:38):
stroke lead over Tony Finale and a couple of others.
To the fellas, we are the fellas He's Kevin Figures
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whole lot of something on all the in shorts. Let's
bring in the other guys and meet our other boys,
our sound engineer of course, Figgy. Psycho Chris Yep, Good
morning guys. Hello Psycho Chris. It's going all right? How's
it going? Usually asked me something here and I'm just like, okay,

(27:21):
I'm just just give you salutations. I am having so
I just wanted to say good morning. You are saying
good morning. We are saying good morning to one another.
Good morning. He was waiting for a pot shot. That's
what it is. Yeah, just love listen, I got Figgy.
Great to hear Figgy, Chris. It is great to hear Figgy.

(27:44):
I hear Figgy all night long. He's had enough of me,
He's had a deal with me for four hours already.
I love Chris is the height of irreverence. And uh.
The opposite of Chris is Bo. Who's our five producer,
who's got nothing but Bouquet's right? Bo? Yeah that sounds
about right. How's it going, guys? Good? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

(28:06):
no issues this week? No nothing at all. All right,
I'm just checking, you know, big problems, gotta check in. No,
I appreciate it. I'm just on edge because the last time,
the last few times anyone's ever bothered to talk to
me this week at all, it's usually usually somewhere in
that first sentence is the words Matthew Stafford. So here's
someone asked me about, like something other than what do

(28:28):
you think the lions are gonna get? Is? It's new?
I apologize, it's just well we will get to that
coming up. And Stafford to the Rams. There's a lot
of traction, seems a lot of heat there. So we
will talk about Matthew Stafford on the RAMS. But since
we do this every week and right around this time,
I always talk to you guys and bring you guys

(28:49):
in the show, I figured i'd say hello, Hello. I
think let's get back to this thing real quick, because
when we look at Wins and we look at exactly
you know, what they would be doing. Um, I'm I'm curious.

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I don't see, judging by the tenor of that news conference,
I don't see them keeping him. Yeah, I don't know
how you can at this point. The only way that
you can is knowing what his cap number is. And
you may know know what more intimately than I do,
but I'd imagine he probably has a large cap number
dedicated to him if they were to trade him or
cut him. But I mean, even if you're talking about

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a quarterback competition, if he were to somehow lose to
Jalen Hurts, you're paying him all that money to be
a backup to. And do you mentioned if he was
being petulant or if he was, you know, being insubordinate.
That's not gonna change when camp starts, especially with a
new head coach who he probably has less respect for
than Doug Peterson, or at least maybe not now considering
how things ended with him and Doug Peterson. I yeah,

(29:56):
it seems like an untenable situation right now. The problem
is are they will things? Are they able to take
this sort of cap hit they're they're they're going to
face if they end up getting rid of him. Yeah,
and I think they had and it's a big one
and it's for this year. But I think I think
there's some major trust issues. I think on both sides,

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but I think on Carson side, and I like, to me,
I can't get out of the like like David Colley's like,
we love DeShawn Watson, right, And he didn't and Seriality
didn't say that, like that would be the first thing
I would be saying. And it was funny when he
was asked about it as well. I haven't had a
chance to think about it or watch film, and all

(30:43):
I keep thinking is that's the worst answer possible. Your
answer needs to be. All I'm thinking about is the
quarterback situation. I'm I'm eating dinner with my kids and
I'm thinking about the quarterback situation. I'm in the shower
and I'm thinking about the QUARTERBA situation, and I don't
have an answer for you guys today, But I'm gonna

(31:04):
roll my sleeves up and I'll get an answer. Isn't
that how you answer that question? Well? Number one, most
of these guys, you know, you hear a lot of
these coaches when they do interviews, how much they break
down the roster and cut up film and do all
this and do presentations during the interview. What does Sirianni
actually say during the interview. He had to have had
some ideas of what he thought about WinCE and Jalen
Hurts and watched film and thought about what he can

(31:27):
do with one player or the other. It's a bad
look or a bad optic for you to say, well,
I haven't watched the film yet. You haven't. You've been
a head coach for a week, you interviewed a few
weeks ago, like you should have some in some sort
of knowledge without getting your hands on the guys directly already,
some sort of knowledge of your and an idea of
what you want to do. At this point, you sound
very unprepared at this point. That's not a good sign.

(31:50):
And you know that that has to be untrue. Yeah,
he has to blind which if that's the case. Again,
if if you truly don't know, and it's an open competition,
but you don't want to say it, say look, we
we love Carson, but Jalen Hurt showed us some things
last year as well. We're still in the evaluation process,
but we love both guys and we'll see what we
can do in the feud. There's a way you can

(32:11):
be nebulous and give a vote of confidence to both
players if you truly don't know without presenting get the
way that he's presented it. Yeah, you know what's funny,
You're you're describing a veteran UH coach who's deft at
handling this sort of thing, a coach that I think

(32:34):
they needed, and they went completely the opposite way. And
you know, I hate to say something could be a
disaster right without giving it a chance. And I said yesterday,
while you have to have an open mind, like if
I'm in Houston, you know I have an open minded
about David Culley. By the way, David Culley has been
around for a long time, right, like over twenty years

(32:58):
as an assistant in the NFL. Yeah, right, Like he
deserved and he's a real smart guy, like he knows
the game. Like so you know, you always anytime you
have a new coach, you want to have, you know,
at least an open mind and you want to be
excited for the possibilities. This one's a little tough, Isn't

(33:19):
that the scary part? And is that they they were
able to prepare for this. You'll never be more prepared
for a press conference than you are when you have
a head a new head coach. You guys have talking
points that you go over before you face the media.
What was the first thing that nikos Sario said on
Friday before they introduced introduced CULI. I just want to
say we have no intentions of trading Deshaun Watson. They
nipped it in the butt right off the top before

(33:40):
anybody could even ask a question. You know, again, if
you don't feel that demonstrator or that comfortable saying that explicitly,
if you're the Eagles, that's fine, but find some other
savvy way to be able to present it than what
Nick Sirianni said. You guys had time to craft this,
and if they botched this, what are they gonna do
if they lose forty five to nothing in both cores
of backs look terrible after How is he going to

(34:02):
react to that? That would be my fear if I'm
an Eagle fan, if you were able to botch the
opening press conference, you know, at least perceptually this way
on Friday, How does that boat for the future if
things don't go smoothly. Yeah, no, I'm with you, all right,
So let's do this. Uh, I want to play some
quarterback musical chairs. So let's think about Whence Watson Stafford

(34:32):
and where those guys might wind up the future of
the quarterbacks in the NFL. And you gotta indulge me
because I need to talk about John Cheney, true basketball
legend who passed away yesterday at the age of eighty nine.

(34:57):
And he was a beautiful man. Fig would have loved him.
I want to I just need to say a few
words because I have had a heavy heart ever since
I found out yesterday around two o'clock. So we're the fellas.
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(35:20):
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(35:42):
Call Farmers today for a quote. So yesterday college basketball
lost one of the great great coaches and uh so,
his name was John Cheney and he coached Temple University,
which happens to be my alma mater. So in the

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eighties and nineties, Temple was of cot was a powerhouse.
If um, you know the history. They played the unlvs
and the Dukes to to like incredible, you know, standstills.
They went to several Elite eights, never made it to

(36:25):
the final four. But we're always buzzing around. We're really good.
They played that thought the Michigan team, the U and
f V were running ReBs Indiana, you know the whole
thing like they were. They were and it was all
under the steward of John Cheney. And John Cheney grew

(36:45):
up in South Philadelphia, which is where my neighborhood is
in an African American section of the of that neighbor Pockets.
Philippi is a city of neighborhoods and pockets. Uh Um,
It's a lot different than it was when John grew up,
and John was a guy that always fought for the underdog,

(37:10):
fought for kids. You know, he was instrumental in UH
fighting against Prop forty eight and the S A T
s and the S A T bias. And he gave
kids a chance at school. And he was very hard
on those kids, but he got him into school. He

(37:32):
gave him a chance, and he's got a lot of
success stories. Aaron McKee who was now the coach of
Tampa University, who was a longtime NBA player, Eddie Jones
who you know from the Lakers, UH, several guys, Tim Parry,
a lot of NBA guys, Mark Making that played on

(37:55):
the John Cheney and he was one of these amazing figure.
He seemed to be figgy, irassible. He had this gravelly voice.
Kill you and we'll never fet the old coach Cow,
right that and that that's the thing I want someone
like you to clear up because for people that just
know him as sound bites or video clips of him,

(38:17):
you know, yelling at Coach Cow saying he's gonna kill
him and he's gonna knock his kid in the mouth,
like he was some over aggressive like tyrant. He was
more than that yes, he was a tough basketball coach,
but as he was an advocate, like you said, for
young people, especially young people from tough areas, tough upbringings,
and he valued getting those kids a great education along
with playing basketball, you know. And and I think that's

(38:40):
one thing that was really really not spotlighted when people
talked about John Cheney. So I'm glad that people like
yourself were able to talk about a lot of the
other contributions he made. He saved kids and and he
and he was tough, like his practices were at five
thirty in the morning, that's what he had practice. And

(39:02):
I'll definitely like I've done the a million stories. And
I got to know him very very well. We were
real close. He would buy people that he liked Armandy ties,
and I still have one of the Armandi ties that
he gave me that don't get to make a sauce
on the tie. Haf Any and uh I spent one day.

(39:23):
Used to love. He wasn't like like a beautiful neighborhood guy,
right like he loved saying a load of people and
going there's an outdoor market in Philadelphia called the Italian Market.
And he used to always go down there by produce
and meats and all. And one day for a story
I was writing, I spent that We hung out down

(39:45):
there for the story and we went into this little
restaurant called Villa de Roma. In fact, Villa do Roma
was featured in The Irishman in that in that movie,
and Coach and I went in there and we drank glasses,
those little kind of tumblers of beer, and we were

(40:08):
there for hours. And it's a walking kind of city,
so we were we were both walking, and we both
stumbled out after drinking several glasses of beer that day,
and it was just and he's hugging you, and it's
just like you would see him. The shirt collar would
be unbuttoned, and he was a beautiful soul man. So

(40:31):
we're gonna miss him. I just wanted to give a
little ode to John Cheney. Thanks. I appreciate that. We'll
come back. Quarterbacks and super Bowl on the list Fellas
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Annual Savings Survey data July to December twenty twenty. We
are so one little punctuation mark. We were talking the
end of the last hour about the passing of legendary
basketball coach John Cheney, uh from Temple University yesterday and Uh,

(41:37):
it was a dear kind of a mentor. And oh man,
when I've known him forever, and he was a great man,
and I was. I met him when I went to Temple,
and we had a relationship afterwards when I was a
journalist and when I was in New York and Chicago.
We kept him touch and I came back home to
my hometown of Philadelphia and rekindled. He was a great,

(41:58):
great man. But he would call himself the Black Knight
because he and Bobby Knight had a kinship. Yes. Now,
he could be a little scary at times when he
yelled at right like he was from that yesteryear old

(42:22):
school patriarch, you know, filled with that masculinity in that sense,
if you know what I mean. Yeah, he was like
they say he and John Thompson were kind of birds
of a feather, you know, yes, yes, yes, yes, but
here he had incredible warmth. He was the typical filled

(42:43):
with bluster on the outside. Inside he would he would
you know, melt right. He was that guy like he
would cry and he would laugh and he would love
very hard. He had the hard steer you or right,
the hard shell in the soft middle. And that's who

(43:05):
John Cheney was. Do you ever know if John Cheney
was presented because he had such a level of success
at Temple and you know, all due respect to your
alma mater, it's not a giant Marquis, you know, program,
it's not Duke or U n C or a school
like that. Was he ever courted by major universities? Was
he ever tempted to leave Temple to go somewhere else

(43:25):
during their dominant run in the eighties and nineties, Yeah
he was. He was courted um Man several times, but
he never took as much like Jay Wright and Villanova. Yeah,
it's been hot NBA circle's circles even recently, and there
was something about those guys uh in the community. And

(43:48):
it was interesting because back then it sounds weird because
you think about tampily go all right, well you know whatever,
you know, not in your mind you're thinking, well, it's
you know, Kansas and it's d Kentucky, you know, but
back then it was back then even though they even
win that championships, they were a powerhouse, right like, so

(44:11):
they would they would put now he never he was courted.
I think U. C l A wanted John and he
was like that because I'm you know, he was happy
where he was and a lot like Jay I know
Ja was was courted by U. C l A as well.
Kansas came to jay Um. The Sixers come to Ja before.

(44:32):
Uh yeah, they they never really officially did because they
knew he wasn't interested, you know. They they they as
a close circle. The president of the Sixers went to Villanova,
so you know that's a small town. They love him, right,
so they would have hired him in a second. But

(44:55):
they did well with with Doc Rivers. Oh yeah, for sure.
I do. I respect guys who are willing to kind
of stick it out and you know, they get a
lot of opportunities. Things obviously did not end well with
Joe Pozzno in that whole situation at Penn State. But
he was a guy that accorded a lot throughout his career.
But you know, embraced being, you know, the big fish
in the situation he was in and thrived. You know.

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So I have respect for guys like that who are like,
you know what, this is my calling, this is all
I want to do, you know. Mention John Cheney was
an advocate for sort of forgotten sective player and of
athlete of student, and he prided himself on getting getting
those guys in and getting them an education through basketball.
And I respected the hell out of him for that. Yeah,
it's so true. You know, he was that prop for

(45:38):
the eight thing was a big deal. Like he that
was a big deal. He tried to talk about the
racial bias that was there with the S A T.
And it was, it was. It was a big deal
back then. And he helped a lot of kids, and
he saved a lot of kids. And listen, he was tough.
If you didn't go to class and you were behind,

(46:02):
you were out. Like you know, he gives you his
his chances. But you know, there was a couple of
guys that didn't make it. And there was a reason
why that he practiced five thirty. He wanted you sleep
and by ten o'clock. You know, that was always his uh,
his belief about nothing good happens after midnight. Yeah, you

(46:27):
know he was that was his olways, that was his
whole belief. Anyway, Um, thanks for adulting me Fish. Yeah.
I I assumed you had some sort of relationship with him,
you guys, both being temple guys and you know his
great legacy, So I I was hoping that you would. Man,

(46:47):
he was one of those dudes like I love the
older guys, like the venable coaches, and you know, and
and and we're blessed with a lot of these people.
Like it's funny like I was listening to Jimmy Johnson
talk the other day and I was like, Um, you
know that guy, I mean just exudes football, right, like,

(47:07):
you know, he's one of these treasures. There's a lot
of In fact, I have that. And then one of
the questions in the four are the treasures because we
often want to pick and bring down our you know,
legendary figures sports const right, and I think it's it's

(47:29):
good to revere the ones who deserve to be revered. Listen,
we're all flawed, we're all human, we all have warts.
Right now, Listen, if some warts are worse and bad
and worse than others, right but if if we're we're
gonna be real. I mean, there are a lot of

(47:51):
great people in sports that deserve to be put on
a pedestal. It's good to have people that that we revere,
especially the older people. Yeah, older coaches whose opinions you respect,
who you always want to hear from, when you always
get something insightful out of you know, I think Phil
Jackson as one of those guys. You know. Pat Riley

(48:12):
yep Ryles is one of those guys. You know guys
by the way, those are the ones who often don't
even speak, don't speak that Often's the last time Pat
Roley spoke on the record about anything, you know? Or
Phil Jackson the last dance you know, But it's every
time you do, you always get a good nugget from them,
you know. You know what you know what's funny is
I heard a great pat Riley story and it was

(48:36):
about and you know this league and this league they
You've got a lot of guys who complained, right, like,
you know these guys, you know this guy, that guy.
So it was funny. I was talking about Jimmy Butler

(48:58):
to somebody and you Jimmy, Jimmy's one that likes to clash.
He Jimmy Butler likes to he he craves that clash.
He's just some people just like that. They just they
live they live for that. If you know, it's background

(49:18):
he grew up in. Maybe chaos might be in a
strong word, but you know, there was a lot of
adversity he had to fight through and that shaped him
to who he is. And I think partly that some
sort of adversity or some sort of underdog mentality fuels him.
So if you are working as hard as I am,
or you're not in the same path as me, yeah
we're not gonna work out. I think that's why he
hasn't worked out, and so many stops he's made exactly

(49:40):
And so it's funny because you know, some people can't
handle that. And so he is a guy that again
will will have confrontation. So the beauty of the way
the heat is run. So the Miami Heat, Mickey Irison,
who the owners? So when Jimmy's agent calls to bitch Jimmy.

(50:05):
Mickey Arison says, talk to Pat right, So Pat, because
Pat constructed everything right. Riley constructs the whole process of
the of the heat And so then Jimmy and the
agent go to Pat. And you know when Pat responses,

(50:27):
talk to spo right. So he forces the dialogue between
the coach and the player. He forces the the and
and make no mistake, Pat's got sposed back, so Patavia.

(50:48):
But if you're gonna cause a problem, make no mistake
that Pat Riley will have Spolsters back in the beef.
What's just phenomenal. And I'm glad he does that. You know,
that was the story with Lebron James his first year
with the Heatles, and they got together and they got
off to that they were eight nine or what. They
didn't get off to as great of a start as
people thought. And there was that story that Lebron James

(51:10):
went to Pat Riley and said, this coach, spots Bolster
doesn't know what he's doing. You need to coach us.
And Riley said, no, he's your head coach. Deal with it.
And it takes a certain amount of you know, Moxie.
I don't know if I can say it even takes balls.
I mean, this is pat Riley. You know, he's seen everything,
so he's are in that respect from every player for

(51:30):
every generation, time, big time. Uh So, I I respect
the fact that he's he wasn't gonna you know, circumvent
you know, or go go behind the back of his coach,
his hand appointed coach and told the biggest the biggest
star maybe even in sports at the time, you have
to deal with it. And I respect that for pat Riley.

(51:51):
And he's one of those guys, one of those old hands.
Like you said, whenever he talks, everybody listens, even the greats,
even the current greats like Jimmy by the way. You know. Yes,
And what happens is that Fosters what a winning culture
and culture? Yes, amen, my brother, and you know us

(52:13):
Fosters are winning culture. Andy Reid, that's right. Look at
what Andy Reid has done. We will take a look
at Andy Reid. Coming up next, we will also play
quarterback Musical Chairs. That's coming up next. Fellas, the Fake
I'm because together, the Fellas Big link off today right

(52:35):
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(52:56):
save a mandal on your auto insurance. I've let's play
a little musical chairs with the quarterbacks so potentially available.
We know we have DeShawn Watson, we have Carson Wentz,
and we have Matthew Stafford. Now also Jared Goff. Don't

(53:18):
forget him now. I'll ask you, because you're close situation,
what's going on with golf right now? And why is
he fallen so far out of favor with the Rams? Well,
because the belief is they didn't really ask him to
do a whole lot. You know, they've had it. They
had a championship level defense this past season, not dissimilar

(53:42):
and maybe even better than the defense they had a
couple of years ago when they actually did get to
the Super Bowl. He's put up some big numbers, He's
had some big games, but generally speaking, you know, they're
not asking him in a throw for three hundred and
fifty yards and four touchdowns every week. And what it
turned two into this past season was just turned the
ball over. Just be smart, make players when they're there.

(54:03):
But don't force it. And as we saw, I mean,
there are some especially really really bad games. The game
in Miami was atrocious, and there are so many games
that they lost just based on the fact that he
turned the ball over, and so that's they feel as
if he's regressed, so as to a certain degree, he
went from not only not turning it over, but he
was actually making plays. People remember that great Monday night

(54:24):
shootout with the Kansas City Chiefs a couple of years ago,
and we're just far removed from that and him putting
up those sorts of numbers for whatever reason, I know,
Todd Gurley's not there anymore. When he was healthy, he
was as dynamic a player as ever, and I'm sure
that helped him in his abilities. But again, they're not
asking him to win football games. There's asking him to
be to manage the game and not turn the ball over.

(54:44):
And there are too many times this past season and
the last year where he didn't do that, and he's
been in the upper echelon. As a matter of fact,
I believe he leaves the league in turnovers or might
be second right behind Jamis Winston the last two years,
which is incredible and so that's kind of why he's
fallen out of favor with the Rams. So we had

(55:04):
less sneaed the general manager of the Rams on our
local affiliate earlier this week, A five seventy l A Sports,
and he didn't say it explicitly, but he almost, you know,
alluded to the fact that there might be an open
quarterback competition going into camp next year if golf is
on the roster. Talking about John Wolford and how he's
looked in practice against the defense, and he had the

(55:26):
one start against the Cardinals at the end of the
regular season, started the playoff game against Seattle before he
got injured, and he says, we like what he's shown
us so far. He's earned the right for more playing time.
So when a general manager comes out and says the
backup quarterback who was undrafted has earned the right to
have more playing time over a guy who we mentioned

(55:46):
earlier in the show, you traded multiple first round picks
to move up to get first overall just a couple
of years ago, and you just paid him a crap
ton of money. You're listening to what he's not saying
when he says something like that's amazing, as I can
sit here, I'm thinking, wow, man, I remember being supremely

(56:07):
impressed on a couple occasions. There was a game against Tampa.
Do you remember where the Rams beat this Brady team
seven twenty four. God throws for three seventies six in
the game, and I remember going, wow, damn, he was

(56:29):
throwing pillows and he beat There was another game put
thirty eight I think against Arizona. First game A yeah,
and I'm like, whoa, he looks fabulous, like he was
always like we throw a beautiful catchable ball. But I mean,
it's amazing to me that he beats Brady, he beats

(56:49):
Kylin Murray as a couple of like of amazing moments
and now he's just out. Yeah. Because the problem is
there there were it was you and far between the
spectacular moments. You know, even in that game against Tampa
that they won, he had a couple of bad interceptions
in that game too. You Know, the problem is there
are just too many opportunities where a man, that was

(57:11):
a game we could have won. The Seattle game, the
second Seattle game in the regular season. Remember they're in
the red zone, are pretty close to it, and he's
scrambling out right. He just throws the ball into nowhere
and there's nobody but a Seattle defender within fifteen yards
of the past and they catch it. It's just and
all it takes. And you know, in this league is
one boneheaded play like that can change the momentum of

(57:32):
an entire game. And too many chances, too many times
that has happened. Look the Rams going into the last
month of the season, were you know, one of the
favorites to possibly finish as the top seed or at
least a second seed in the NFC, and they fell
off to possibly you know, to having to scramble to
try to qualify for a playoff berth in that last
game of the regular season against the Cardinals. So so

(57:54):
that's the issue, especially when you feel like you have
a championship level defense, you don't ask very much from
your said caller at that point. You're not asking him
to be Superman. You don't need him to be Patrick
Mahomes or somebody like that. Just play within yourself. And
too often for whatever reason, And I don't I don't
know if it's between the ears. I know he had
the thumb injury, but even you can't use the thumber
injury as an excuse because he was playing poorly or

(58:16):
inconsistently before that. So it just it seems as if
he's he's regressed, and I don't know if they can
put a figure on as to why. I mean, look,
you're in year three, year year four of your career,
year three in this system with Sean McVeigh. You know
at this point you should be mastering the system. You
shouldn't be regressing, you should be getting better. It's a
great point, it's amazing, and you you said something that

(58:38):
is so true, how a couple of bonehead plays that
changed the fortune of a game can change how people
look at a quarterback like it happens quickly. Do you
remember Matt Shop speaking of texts and s quarterbacks, So
Shop was the backup to Matt Ryan in Atlanta, goes

(59:00):
to Houston and look good early if you remember, he
looked good, looked excellent, right, and then comes badge a
good year, comes back the following year and he throws
a rash of pick six is yeah, turned into Mr
pick six, that's right, And then he was just cocked.

(59:26):
I mean, he went from at being this promising quarterback
who I can't let him to the playoffs. I gotta
go back up to the playoffs once a few times,
a couple of times, because remember he I believe when
he left Atlanta he may have actually been the backup
to Michael Vick at the time. Left there, coming out,
coming out, coming, after the whole Vic dog fighting situation.

(59:47):
He came in as a backup and performed well, got
a giant contract with Houston, and yeah, I played pretty
well for them. Let let them to a nine and
seven record of two thousand and nine playoff birth I
believe in excuse me twelve, they made it back to
the postseason. So he had a pretty solid run. But
you're right, once that avalanche started, it just snowballed on him.

(01:00:07):
It's almost like a relief pitcher, you know, uh, you know,
a certain guy for whatever reason. I don't want to
bring up bad memories, but remember Bratt Lidge. Remember you
know how phenomenal he was, you know, and then he
got taken deep by Albert pooh Holes in a playoff game.
It just fell off the face of the earth for
about three years before he re emerged. And I think
he wanted to win a World Series. I think he
won the World Series with the Phillies, But when he

(01:00:29):
was in Houston at the time, he just totally fell
off of a cliff. And you see that happen with relievers,
and it seems like with certain quarterbacks that seems to
happen as well. There seems to be a turning point,
something happens and they lose their confidence and to a
certain degree, Anthony, maybe this happened this year with Carson Wentz.
Do you feel like it may have been a confidence
issue with him or was he just shell shocked or
maybe a whole combination of issues. But I do think

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that can happen to a lot of players, especially young players. Uh.
You know, Carson Wentz for as much success as he
had in his first year, still a young player, and
I think it messed with them mentally. The fact that
the team was able to win without him, and maybe
he put them undue pressure on himself and all the
other stuff cascading on him just turned into a giant snowball,
and that's how you got the result that you got
this past season. Now, there were there was some crazy

(01:01:14):
reports to that he was changing place on purpose, had
a spite that he had completely lost faith in Peterson's offense. Which,
by the way, I felt it was horrible anyway, So
I mean, I can't really blame him to an extent,
But what do you do? And let's play a little
musical chairs of golf. Who's a mess? Wentz who's a mess?

(01:01:39):
You have DeShawn Watson, who's legit. You have Matthew Stafford,
who's legit. So when you think about musical chairs and
musical quarterbacks, and I'll give you somebody else that I
think teams should look at on your squad Mariota. Yeah.

(01:01:59):
Could would you trade for Mariota? I know I would
take a looking trade for Mariota. Yeah. And if the
Raiders don't trade him, they're probably gonna cut him because
his cap number is really really high and you can't
have I believe cars cap number is about twenty seven million,
and Mariotas is about eleven. You're not gonna pay a
backup quarterback eleven million dollars, So they're gonna figure something
out with that. But yeah, he's someone worth the look. Um.

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I wasn't a big fan of his as a starter
the last few years in Tennessee. He had a good
spot start for Derek Carr or when Derek Carr got injured,
came in and played. Well. I don't know if he's
someone I would necessarily trusts my starting quarterback, but maybe
has a decent stop gap. He's someone that you can
look at at least come in and compete for a
job something. He's a fascinating guy. All right, So hit

(01:02:42):
me with some trending thick and then I want to
ask you about Mariota and let's talk through it, because
maybe he's got something under the right coach. Alright, alright, Well,
you know we talked about Jared Golf, and there was
a report from the Athletic on Friday night at the
Rams are nix floratory discussions with multiple teams about a

(01:03:03):
trade involving Jared Golf. So we'll have to continue to
monitor that. One trade that looks like you might be
going down in Major League Baseball is the Rockies sending
their All Star and Gold Glove winner Nolan Arronado to
the St. Louis Cardinals penning approval from a Players Association
and MLB. Eronado does have a no trade clause, but
by all accounts, it seems as if he's going to

(01:03:24):
waive that and should everything work out, the way it's
opposed to. He will be a new member of the Cardinals.
We had some action in the NFL, or excuse me,
in the NBA on Friday, Utah without Donovan, Mitchell hammered
the Dallas Mavericks once twenty two, one on one. They
now have the best record in the NBA at fifteen
and four and have one eleven games in a row,
the Clippers dominating the Orlando Magic, Trey Young scoring forty

(01:03:46):
one for Atlanta in a victory over Washington Spurs, Kings
and the Nets with wins a top twenty college Troops
Magic batch up in the Big Ten, saw Illinois be
Iowa eight to seventy five, and set around at the
Farmer Insurance Open in Southern California, Victor Hovelin with a
one shot lead over three others. Back to the Fellas,

(01:04:07):
we are the Fellas, Figgy, you just heard him. He's
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(01:04:32):
here in the Northeast, fig we're getting ready for a
snow storm. HM. So it sounds like a lot of fun.
I I hear you. You go. It makes me say
I probably shouldn't complain about the deli used of rain
we had the last couple of days in southern California
and the freezing cold temperatures of fifty two degrees. Yes,

(01:04:56):
I know, fifties. It feels like twenties too, or teams
right now. So you say you can feel good about yourself. Fig,
I'll check my iPhone weather. I am in Ballykinwood, Pennsylvania
right now, and it is eighteen degrees outside. I'm sorry,

(01:05:17):
I thought you said eighteen degrees. Yes, eighteen degrees right
now currently at seven thirty two am on this Saturday. Uh,
that's where I'm at. And as I look at the
days on your iPhone, you look at your weather and
you see the big fat snowflake the next three days

(01:05:40):
and the storm is supposed to hit us tomorrow night
into all the northeast, Harder d C. And the Philly, Baltimore, Philly,
New York, Boston all about to get buried. We're gonna
get eight to twelve. That's incredible. I don't know how
you guys do it. I am admittedly a West Coast
softie when it comes to this sort of thing. I'm

(01:06:01):
not a big snow person. I don't know how you
guys deal with the chains on the tires and all that.
It's almost like this a completely different planet that you
have to deal with and dealing. I don't want to
I don't want to overstate it because it's not bad
where I'm I'm in mid Atlantic state. So the mid
Atlantic region you get like, you know, we'll get years

(01:06:23):
where winters where we'll get a you know, three four
storms and it could be substantial, but it's nowhere, Like
you know, it's funny. I was thinking about these three
years ago, the Super Bowls in Minnesota. Oh yeah, it was,
wasn't it. Yes, Like Minnesota, like I those people are tough,
you know, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan where you know, the temps

(01:06:48):
don't get above single digits for weeks at a time.
I remember living in Chicago and it didn't get above
the windshill one of those above zero for two weeks.
Tree Like you walk outside and your nose runs and
you can't feel your ear lobes and your eyes like
dry up and almost freeze, like it's it's crazy. And

(01:07:10):
then you know, I'm thinking about Buffalo, right, like we
just the bills and an incredible thing. Those people, I mean,
that's no right. Those people. God, but they're hardy people,
you know, Like we we're in between you guys and
those guys. Even still, I mean you talk about, you know,
thirty degrees twenty eight degrees, I mean that is freezing cold.

(01:07:33):
I can't feel my tolls for us. I haven't mentioned
like being cold at forty It's forty eight degrees I
think currently here in the San Fernando Valley in southern California,
and like, I'm like wrapping myself up in nineteen layers
because of that, I can mess you know, you guys
back east and even more so in the Midwest, you
hear forty fifty degrees, you're probably throwing on tank tops

(01:07:53):
and shorts and let's say, hey, let's go, it's a
nice day outside. Yeah, you're along the plane States, you're
in Nebraska and in Iowa. Yeah, that's why I have Yeah,
I have so much respect for like for fans, you know,
especially if you're like a Cleveland Brown fan. Your franchise
has been terrible for years and up until last year.
I think they sold out like every single game. Snow

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went all over the place. It's it's cold, you're sitting
in the stands. It's like you're if you're a player,
at least you're moving, you're running around, you're working up
a bit of a ladder. Yeah, you're in the crowd.
You're just sitting there in the two hundred section, especially
the guy who's sitting there with no shirt on and
he's double fist and ice cold beers. I mean, that's
a different mental makeup. To be able to do that.
I have all the respects in the world for like

(01:08:37):
those Browns fans or Bronco fans, the old barrel man,
you know, people like that, even you guys backs, yeah,
you know, the Eagles fans, your Giants fans. To to
be able to do that, that's that's pretty incredible, because
I don't know if I'll be able to lasts now.
It's hysterical, it really is. No those people, man, some tough,

(01:08:58):
tough folks, diehards. But that's what that's what people like.
That is what I love about professional sports are just
sports in general. I mean that goes back to this year.
I mean, you know, the one thing that I think
stands out to all of this is how deeply we
missed the fans right right. The artificial noise doesn't not
good enough of anything that can be kind of hokey

(01:09:19):
at times just being able. I think we see that
in the NBA, you know, I believe when I think
we talked about this a couple of weeks ago as
why are there's so many blowouts? And I think part
of it is there's just there's no home court advantage,
you know, the you know, a home team gets down
by you know, fifteen points in the first quarter a
lot of times, you know that home crowd can few
can fuel to come back. If they're not there, there's

(01:09:41):
no comeback. A lot of times, it just cascades and
snowballs on you and it's all over. So I think
that's part of it, and you know, it's it's it's
it's an adjustment for the players. I'm sure the Bubble
was different, you know, it was a smaller venue. You know,
at least had families there here and there. Now you're
playing in these cavernists, you know, arenas that see people
and there's you know, even at most for some players

(01:10:03):
that are for some places that are actually allowing fans.
You're getting what three thousand people, and it's a ghost
town that has to mess with your psyche and and
you're the way that you play to a certain degree
as a player. I get it. Yeah, I mean, and
we saw all the quarterbacks with the hard counts and
and how effective the whole thing was. Who's crazy? All right?

(01:10:24):
So the musical chairs. Let's let's let's embark on this
a little bit. So let's take Watson. Who's a good
suitor for Watson? Is it Carolina and that role? Who
are closing? He's close to a too fixing this thing
and building this thing? But could he Is he ready

(01:10:47):
for it? DeShawn Watson, He's ready for it. I don't
know if they have the worquisite assets to make it work, um,
but I guess in a perfect world, I mean, I
think he'd be a perfect fit for what they're trying
to do. Now. There are reports that came out last
week that said that Deshaun Watson for some reason is
interested in going to the New York Jets, And I
think from an asset standpoint, I think they're pretty well

(01:11:10):
set up. I mean, you know, to be able to
make a trade and get themselves in a position where
they can still acquire where they can acquire Deshaun Watson.
So I think that's something that they can know, that
they can look into that could be mutually beneficial for
both parties. It's interesting thing because their defense isn't bad
and they actually have kill people. They're not terrible. The

(01:11:31):
guy's actually some decent receivers. Yeah, the offensive line isn't great,
and so that would that's the one reason why I
would say, Deshaun, why would you want to go there?
And maybe maybe he's being drawn to the bright lights
of New York and that has a bit of a
pull to it. I'm not exactly sure. But being able
to trade the requisite number one picks, you have a
high end up draft pick at second overall to be
able to make that work. And if you're Houston, you

(01:11:53):
make that trade and all of a sudden you have
justin Fields or you have someone else as your quarterback
of the future that falls right into your lap. So
that's the one that makes the most sense. People were
talking about what about Jacksonville. Maybe they trade the Torst
overall pick. The problem is, I don't see Deshaun Watson.
Waving is no trade clause to go to Jacksonville. I'll
be honest with you, I wouldn't if I'm Jacksonville, I

(01:12:15):
wouldn't do it, So you wouldn't see I would because
I would always trade for a known commodity. And it's
not like Deshaun Watson is, you know, thirty six years old.
I don't know if he's even entered his prime yet. Well,
here's getting yourself a known commodity outside. If we all
think Trevor Lawrence is gonna be great, but you never
know until you know. I agree. Listen, there's a degree
that I do think Trevor Lawrence is as close to

(01:12:38):
a lock. I mean the last two quarters, like I
felt like luck would be a lock. Same, and he
probably would have been had it not been for the injuries.
Even he I mean he played great when he was
healthy too. Yeah, I think he more than lived up
to it. Yeah, and I loved him, And I feel
the same way about Lawrence. I think Lawrence he there's

(01:12:59):
nothing he can do, There's no I don't see the
holes in his game, right, very true. So I think
he's a lock. And here's why. So, because I think
he's a great player, like he's he's going to be great.
I wouldn't trade him. I wouldn't trade for DeShawn and
I wouldn't you know again, I got control, I got

(01:13:21):
rookie contract with Lawrence, and I got all that cap
spaces in Jacksonville. You know, if if I'm successful right
and building, I mean I could I could be a
super Bowl contender in two years. Yeah. So my retort
to that would be, because you have all the cap
space available, you can easily absorb Deshaun Watson's contract and

(01:13:45):
when you have a standout franchise quarterback immediately, Normally a
place that does not draw on a lot of free
agents in Jacksonville, all of a sudden you can say
you have one of the best players in the sport.
Maybe it actually becomes a draw. And we know how
this league works. There's a new division winner. You know,
there's three or four new division wins every single year.
Who's to say, if they get Deshaun Watson, they draw

(01:14:06):
in the free agent or two draft smartly. You know,
they could be a playoff contender next year, you know,
if if all things work out. So I do agree
that's the way the NFL is going get yourself a
great young ricky quarterback on the rookie contract and build
around him. But there's still gonna be an element of unknown,
even though I do love Trevor Lawrence and I agree
that he will be a standout player. I a hundred

(01:14:27):
percent and know the kind of player Deshaun Watson is,
and I know he can play well when he doesn't
have much around him because I saw it. So if
I'm Urban Meyer and I'm Jacksonville, it's like, we get
this kid in, we get some weapons around him, and
he has some decent weapons. Robinson's a good running back.
Lewiska chanault is A is a good young receiver. I
loved him ever since he was at Colorado. Not especially fast,
he's not tall, but he's a playmaker here right. He

(01:14:49):
catches everything right, So you get another weapon or two
around him along with Deshaun Watson, they can easily be
worse the first in one year. And we see it
all the time in the NFL. So that would be
the reason why if I was Jacksonville, I will be
all for it. I just don't see Watson. Yeah, yeah,
it's a good debate. Now, what about Chicago, What about Indianapolis,

(01:15:12):
What about New England? What are they gonna do with quarterbacks?
So let's let's get to that coming up. It's amazing
because you got New Orleans also in being of a quarterback.
So you've got some good teams DeShawn Watson and Nola
Man that could be scary throwing on Michael Thomas and

(01:15:35):
Alvin Camara out of the backfield. Well, let's discuss it, Fellas,
Figgy and for big Link, I'm cause right here on
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(01:16:00):
call Farmers Today for a quote talking about destinations for
DeShawn Watson, talking about who could fill the void in Indie,
in Chicago, in New Orleans, in New England. So let's
identify for a second. Figure New England decide to go draft,

(01:16:23):
does bellot Check decide to kind of go young and
rebuild that way, or does he go with another stop
cap like he did last year with Newton. I will
tend to think he would want to go with the
veteran and possibly try to get some value later in
the draft when it comes to the quarterback. You know

(01:16:43):
they're gonna get some defensive players back. You would assume
this year some guys that sat out due to COVID,
which kind of has gone under the radar and people
didn't talk about. But I think they had four defensive
starters or at least four key defensive players who just
opted out of the season and didn't even play. Um.
So that's that's gonna be a giant factor in determining
what they do. But assuming those guys return, you know,

(01:17:04):
maybe they take a flyer on a guy like a
Carson Wentz, or they make a run at Matthew Stafford.
I could see that happening. Yeah, you know, it's it's
interesting because you wonder where. You know, it's funny where
was where would a Stafford fall? What did that indie?
What does the indie look? Is that the you know,

(01:17:26):
the natural thing people think because of Reich, do they
try to make a play for wins because when succeeded
on the right, you would think that that would be
like a natural landing spot for him and Matthew Stafford
I think will make a lot of sense in Indianapolis
to Matthew Stafford makes sense in a lot of places,
by the way, especially for a place that field is
built to win, and obviously the Colts is the playoff team,

(01:17:48):
feel that they're pretty built to be able to win,
so I think Stafford will be a natural fit. Uh
there as well, you know, And that's the weird thing.
And then you've got in New Orleans, like what do
you do in the war? Right? New Orleans is in
a weird predicament because they're in salary cap hill right now,
and a few teams are because the cap is going
down when it usually goes up, So they have a

(01:18:09):
lot of contracts they have to work through, which complicates
matters when talking about acquiring someone like Stafford, even someone
like Golf if they happen to be interested in him,
or Carson Wentz or even Watson. All these guys have
pretty hefty, you know, salary cap you know, responsibilities attached
to their contracts. I don't know if the Saints, without
blowing up or getting rid of some important pieces, will

(01:18:31):
be able to bring one of these guys in if
I may, because I I had to do the research
on this too. It's well, I just wanted to clarify too.
It's not just that the Saints are in salary cap hell.
It might be the most hellist hell of salary cap hell's.
It's like something right now, a hundred and twelve million
over the cap and they're only going to get about

(01:18:53):
like I think fifteen million backers, so from from Drew
Brees retiring, and again, as you say, the cap is
not gonna go up, but it'll go down, not as
much as some people think, but it they don't have
a lot of room to I don't know how they
get out of this or how they're even allowed to
be this far over the cap, but there they are. Yeah, Actually,
great point. That is a great point. Well, they're I

(01:19:16):
think they're they're allowed to be this much over because
in a normal year they wouldn't be. I guess in
our normal you know, they probably they probably still be
egregiously over, but maybe more of a manageable like thirty
to forty million as opposed to a hundred or whatever
it is. You know, the cap was supposed to be
what two fifteen or something, and how we're looking at
it's probably gonna be around one seventy. Yeah, and I'm
pretty significant. I've heard from Saint some Saints guys to that.

(01:19:39):
You know, Make Loomis, you know, their general manager. He's
kind of structured some of these these contracts they have
to deal with in this way. And it's it's just
kind of a shell game as far as moving around
who gets owed what year. But it does seem like
right now there is gonna be quite a few bit
of that ode. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I to one

(01:20:00):
thing with the cap, everybody pushes it to the next
year and you're able to kind of move it and
you never really are completely cap and cap l for
more than one season. But it's it's a valid point.
How do you fix that position with a franchise quarterback
when you when you're that far deep into the cap situation. Uh,

(01:20:22):
you know, it's funny, like you look at Chicago. If
you if you give Chicago a legitimate quarterback, I mean,
you know, I think that they're a good team. They should,
you know, like that, that's a good tea with a
real quarterback Figgy. You know, I could see a Wentz
there or watching would be ridiculous there. But Stafford knows

(01:20:46):
the division. I think he'd be a natural fit that
would boil my blood. Oh, I'm sure it would. And
I don't think that he would have to get cut.
I don't think the Lions would actually trade him to Chicago. Yeah,
they're they're not cutting him. I've I've heard that thing before.
It's like, oh, the line is lost leverage. Now teams
can make them cut him. He's not gonna get cut.
He's gonna get traded. Yeah. Yeah, I can't see. You
have to get assets for him. They would never cut him, exactly, exactly,

(01:21:09):
all right. Uh wow, that's wild, man. I'm just thinking
about him throwing a Robinson Stafford wearing a bear uniform.
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all right, fig Lotston that we're talking about the quarterbacks

(01:22:19):
and it's so muddy. It's amazing. It's amazing the musical
chairs of the quarterbacks. What about Matthew Stafford, what about
DeShawn Watson, Carson Wentz? Where are they gonna wind up?
It's been why, it's wild? This is I'm sorry, No,
it's fine. I was I heard, I believe was Adam

(01:22:41):
Schefter this week talking about the over under on you know,
quarterback changes, different opening day starters going into next season
as opposed to this season. I think he set the
over under at eight seen and said he was tempted
to take the over, which is really fascinating. And I
don't know if he's far off considering all the volatility,
you know what I mean, there's a lot of you know,
uncertain situations. Even what teams do you feel like there

(01:23:03):
might be someone established? I mean, if the Giants can
upgrade from Daniel Jones and get a Matthew Stafford or
get a Deshaun Watson or somebody like that, that's something
they could entertain. What if the Cowboys find a way
to get into the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes and get and
move off of Dak Prescott. You know, there's there's a
lot of potential moving parts here aside from the ones
we're already talking about. Derek Carr's name is always floating

(01:23:25):
out there as a possible person that could be replaced.
So play even even teams where you think guys are entrenched,
they might not be as intrenched, especially when you have
heavy hitters Mike Watson or somebody who has the background
and the ability of Carson Wentz available. You just never
know what may happen. He's wild, is we we? If

(01:23:47):
you look at that dreft you talk about wets and
go we talked about it before that draft. Yeah, and
you know here they go one too. You got Drabinsky
who goes before that. Then the Mahomes draft, right, you
know which is wild? And I still never forget because

(01:24:10):
you know that shows you the genius of Andy Reid
and the identified Patrick Mahomes. And listen, he's got a
great field for quarter Nobody knows quarterbacks like Andy Reid.
I'm sorry. He he loved Russell. He tried to get
Russell Wilson when he was in Philadelphia he was gonna

(01:24:30):
move on from Donovan McNabb. Before that, he knew he
loved Russell Wilson. I remember telling me, like, watch this kid,
watch this kid, and they thought that they were he
fell in love with Mahomes and yeah, you know he
built he's got players around them at all. But that kid,
I'm a huge He is the baby Goat. I don't

(01:24:53):
care anybody says. I know he's got the best tight
end of the game, and Kelsey and would a weapon
and Tyree kill, but that dude is the throws that
he makes, He's amazing. And I heard all these goofy
hot takes fake. Well, if he doesn't beat Brady now,
he'll never beat the goat stuff. That's stupid and goofy

(01:25:17):
that's just stupid. I mean, what are the chances of
him making it? Making it look by the way, he
should have beat Brady a couple of years ago. D
four doesn't line up off sides and take away the interception,
they're in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago
on Brady and the Patriots don't even go to the
Super Bowl. That's how close he's been to go into
three Super Bowls already. I mean, who's to say this.

(01:25:40):
This guy can ended up being, you know, in a
situation where he can make five or six Super Bowls
when it's all said and done. I mean, it's ridiculous
what he's already accomplished. If he ends up winning the
Super Bowl next week, which he's favorite to do, by
the way, he's already entridched himself as a Hall of
Famer already. He could he can have a he can
never go back to the Super Bowl one more time
in his career. He can have two to his resume

(01:26:01):
in his first four years as a starter and solidify
himself as a Hall of Fame quarterback. And you know
he's gonna put up phenomenal numbers for as long as
this thing stretches on. You know, that's the He is
absolutely amazing and the big thing for me too with him.
So Andy Reid and the Chiefs traded up to get him.
And you know a lot of colleges with these air
raid systems, a lot of air raid quarterbacks generally don't

(01:26:22):
work out at the NFL level, And so that was
a great fear from some people saying like, yeah, he
might have great physical ability, but he's another one of
these air raid guys who throws the ball a trillion
times and it's not really pro sets. Who knows if
he's actually gonna be able to thrive? And sure enough,
Andy Reid to your point system, notwithstanding saw something special

(01:26:43):
in him, traded up to the tenth pick to get him,
and now he's turned himself into I don't even know
if it's arguable at this point. Aaron Rodgers is phenomenal
and he's still a great player. But I think Pat
Mahomes is the best quarterback in the league right now. Yep,
I mean I agree with you. I don't even think
it's close. Listen. I love rod Is at all and
he's been amazing, but you know, you look at you

(01:27:04):
look at my homes and and you know he gets
turf toe and and that listen, his toe was bothering
him last week. He had to wear a shoe that
was bigger, so he was all right. You do if
you get guys right, if you get guys who you

(01:27:25):
take away their maneuverability, they melt right like they just melt. Well.
Imagine Lamar Jackson not being able to run. How horrible, right,
Like we've seen it. But you look at my homes
he did you take away? Really is that weapon? And
effectively they did last week because of the injury, and

(01:27:48):
he will kill you. It doesn't matter truly special player
that can just stand in the pocket and pick you
apart or use his feet to do the exact same thing.
It does set something up and we can get into it.
There's a another week of Super Bowl chatter to get into.
But having Eric Fisher being hurt, that's your two starting
offensive tackles that are now not going to play against

(01:28:09):
a pretty relentless buccaneer pass rush. On top of the
fact that you have a turf show. I don't know
if that means I'm not going to take the Chiefs
to win the game, but it adds an extra layer
of concern when you have your quarterback who you know
does rely on being able to use his legs and
maybe he won't be able to. Look The extra week
off is certainly gonna help, But and talking to enough
athletes who have had turf toe, that is not a

(01:28:31):
one or two week injury. That is something that you
have to stay off of your foot for a significant
amount of time for that thing to actually be able
to heal. So I think that's something that you have
to monitor as you handicap or start talking about this
super Bowl matchup coming up next Sunday. Yeah, yeah, in
a big way. And that Tampa defensive front is really

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really really good, really strong, really strong. Uh, but let's
talk about this because this is interesting. Uh. If you
look the quarterbacks taking and we're going through it, Marioda,
now I know you're like, wow, you kind of semill
look more. If he's an another system with another coach,

(01:29:15):
can you make Mariota into a player? I think you
would probably have to put him in a place similar
to asking what what the rams are asking Jared Golf
to do to kind of manage and don't necessarily have
to throw for a lot of yards and win games.
I think he can play that role fairly well. If
he was with Kyle Shanahan, for instance, he can be

(01:29:37):
I think he can be at least as good as
Jimmy Garoppolo when Jimmy Garoppolo is healthy and clicking guy.
He has the foot speed, he can get out of
the pocket. You know, they run those stretch runs and
bootlegs and all that. That's where he thrives. So I
think you can have a certain level of success with him,
But I don't know if he's someone that, you know,
if he's gonna be an elite level quarterback that you
can put in any situation to be able to win with,

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and the way those guys are few and far between anyone. Um.
But yeah, I think in the right situation, he's a
quarterback you can make it to the postseason with. How
far you can get I think depends on how good
your defense and your running game is around him. It's
just interesting because when you think about the the quarterbacks
taken and you look at the warts right of that draft,

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you had Winston and him, right, You've you've had Baker,
You've had uh Cam in eleven. Um, you know Luck
obviously retired in twelve, and so you have like all
these the goff and the wentz Kyler Murray recently. Yeah,
And and you look at him and you go of

(01:30:43):
all these picks, not a lot of the the early
ones are paying off. Now Barrow looks legit, Mary, I
will see. I like him. He tailed off the second
half of this past season, for sure, But a lot
of these guys haven't haven't panned out or I have
not lived up to the expectation. You know, like like

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Baker Mayfield was the first overall pick. He had a
good year this year. He was very solid. I thought
Kevins Stefanski did a phenomenal job coaching around his deficiencies,
but probably not performing to the level of what you
would expect from someone who was the top overall pick
in the draft. You know, um, you mentioned Cam. I
think Cam before the injury set in, it was everything

(01:31:27):
that Carolina could have asked for. You know, one got
two Super Bowl, one m v P. But here's a
problem with game though. He he never wasn't consistent thrower.
He had a big arm, but he and ultimately, I
mean that's why I go back to my homes. Why
he's to meet the truth because my homes even Ross

(01:31:49):
look at Russ. Ross. Russ is a great thrower. Like
nobody moves like him because he's like so oddly shifty.
He's almost like this point guard that's that's running their offense.
He's he's so amazingly basketball in his movements. But he's

(01:32:11):
a great thrower. He's one of the best deep ball
throwers I think I've ever seen, to be honest saying something,
He's amazing he's an amazing passer. And the arm, it's
so now. I think Murray has a good arm. He
does have a very good arm, absolutely a matter of fact,
I think he relies on it too much. He's so
great of a d ball thrower. I don't think he's

(01:32:33):
very good short. And I think that was people figured
out the way to defend the Cardinals late in the season.
You know, it's not taking away the big plays. You
don't want to give up big plays, obviously, but you
know he's not gonna nickel and dime you down the field.
If the Cardinals weren't weren't getting you know, fifty yard
forty r pass plays, they weren't moving the ball. So
he has to get better at his short accuracy. You

(01:32:53):
know that that's the problem with him. He does have
a big arm, but I don't think if he he's
built for an offense to kind of nickel and damie
way down the field. And that's the impressive thing about
Belhome Mahomes because you know what people people talked about
them struggling down the stretch. You know, they weren't blowing
teams out. Everything was a one possession game. The last
six or eight games of the season, and that's because
everybody defended them better. Everybody took away Tyreek Hill and

(01:33:15):
all these deep plays. And my Homes said, that's cool.
We'll just go on a twelve thirteen played driving and
you know, as Hank Strand would say, matriculate the ball
down the field and we'll still score touchdowns. We might
not score not we're not as score as many, but
we'll still score enough points to be able to beat you.
And that's the medal of a true great player and
a true champion. You take away one option, I'm good
enough to beat you with the next one. And that's

(01:33:36):
what makes him a leap Like I've seen Andy re
run the shovel pass right Yeah, However, nobody does it
with the flair that Mahomes does. Man, like that underhead,
like that was so smooth, Like I did love that. Dude.
He is, uh makes the best, makes it looked too easy.

(01:33:58):
It's like to making a mockery. The left handed pass
he made a couple of years ago against was ridiculous.
And that was like his second or third career start
or something. Yeah, like you saw right there. You know
the kind of player that he is. Yeah, he's outrageous.
All right, let's uh sit tight. We will come back
and we're gonna play a game called the Four. I

(01:34:19):
give the guys four questions, they give me answers, and
whoever is most creative wins the four. That's next right
here on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, welcome back fellas live
from the Farmers Insurance Fox Sports Radio Studios called eight

(01:34:40):
Farmers to Switch and you can save a bundle on
your auto insurance. I, Anthony, it's because with Figgy, our man,
Kevin figures in for the big link. We got Chris,
we got Bo. That's the crew and he's always you're on.
This time, we'd like to play game called the four

(01:35:03):
where I give the guys four questions, random questions. They
have to come up with their best and most creative answers.
You're ready to figure you want to hear the questions.
Let's do it alright, mom, But other here we go.
First question is this one. Give me the mount rushmore

(01:35:28):
of revered coaches that are live right now, guys that
we should revere and that includes the whole And this
goes off of the John Cheney passing the revered men

(01:35:48):
and women of sport right now? Who are they so
do they have to be coaching right now or can
they be retired? But now they could be sull alive
right now. So we pay all jj to these men
and women before they passed, like John Cheney passed, and
uh he was one of the greats. We didn't talk

(01:36:09):
enough about him nationally and he did so many great things.
One of the first African American head basketball coaches that successful,
right who who really helped save a lot of kids. Man,
he was, he was great. He was a great man,
he really was. And I want to celebrate the mount

(01:36:32):
rushmore of these revered people. All right, give me this,
give me your favorite super Bowl match up? Ever, like
when I say super Bowl, you go back to the
Super Bowl immediately in your mind's eye and you could

(01:36:54):
see it. For instance, when you say super Bowl to me,
obviously I'm gonna go to the Philly Special and falls
throwing the touchdown pass, going to the sidelines, person going
what are we gonna run? He was how about Phillip
Philly and Nick Folds Uh executes it and they go
on to upset the New England Patriots. So what is

(01:37:17):
your super Bowl that comes right to mind? Question number three, No,
football this weekend, and no football means avoid and I'm
not gonna count Pro Bowl and stilly right, but this
is really no football. This is the first we have
the ball next week and then it's over. And it's

(01:37:40):
always a depressing time for me. So the Senior Bowl
and the Hula Bowl and not doing it for you no,
you know, listen, I I'm not saying I'm not gonna watch,
but you know what I'm saying. It just doesn't have
that same kind of feel and I get to rest figures,

(01:38:00):
you know, dude, when football ends, it feels like I'm
saying goodbye to a dear friend for six months. We
deal with it every year. That's the truth. Depressed Anthony, Yes, yes,
So what do you say to people who are depressed
over losing football? So you get to give them advice

(01:38:24):
on how to handle it. And maybe they haven't gotten
into the other sports this yet, so this is your
way of saying, like, I don't know, you could, you know,
move them towards NBA or college basketball or whatever, but
give them something to dive into to help thwart their depression.

(01:38:46):
And then question number four is about the bet. Give
me the greatest betting story that you've ever heard. I
don't care if the wives tale, but it's a story
that you heard that you at least believe to be true.
There was one that came up the other day yesterday.

(01:39:10):
In fact, somebody chaired it with me that a guy
goes in with sports book in Las Vegas all last
March and puts ten thousand dollars on the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers to win the Super Bowl at sixty to one odds. Wow.

(01:39:31):
Now could you imagine Figgy? Now? Why he would have
to have some sort of inside information? Right like you?
I would you put ten thousand on Tampa sixty one?
That's crazy in that while it's like a game stop thing. Yeah,
So give me the greatest betting story you have ever encountered.

(01:39:56):
All right, let's start with question number one, batting lead.
All now, it's going to be Chris. It's Figgy moves
up to clean up in link spot. Chris, you're up first.
Give me the Mount Rushmore a revered men and women
in sport. So I just want to make sure really clear,

(01:40:18):
Like first off, I kind of figured someone who's gonna
grab a few different coaches, so I wanted to make
sure I got some guys who weren't usually gonna be
on other guys Rushmore here. Also, also this feels like
a Mount Rushmore as I'm looking at this of faces,
Three incredibly chiseled faces are on this Mount Rushmore, which
is good because it needs to be chiseled. So number

(01:40:39):
one up for me is from football. I want to
take Bill Parcels with the other Bill, the other big
Bill from the I'm a perennial king. Yeah, just I
I maybe I'm doing a big deeper dive into him
now now that I've got, you know, a bunch of
his former players coaching the Detroit Lions. But it has

(01:41:01):
made me gone back and appreciate a little bit more
Bill Parcels. Wayne Fonts is I don't know if i'd
call him revered, but infamous is probably the better word. Uh.
Tom is oh from basketball, just because I just yeah,
he's been a state from Michigan State. But just uh
just he is Michigan State. He is the state of

(01:41:23):
Michigan for basketball. Also from basketball, Greg Popovich, which I
don't think I need to explain this any further than
what we know about Greg Popovitch. And then finally for me,
and this is me going across the pond here Alex
Ferguson kind of the architect of Manchester United being just
a powerhouse for so many years, thirteen Tie Up League

(01:41:44):
titles to YUWAIFA Champions League titles. But you know, even
if you just have a passing knowledge of European soccer,
you know about Manchester United And the reason why you
know about Manchester United is Alex Ferguson. I like it.
That's very good, very good. Excellent bow we got. Okay,

(01:42:06):
So I've got Phil Jackson, I you know, best basketball
coach ever managed to uh wrangle Kobe and shock into
winning multiple titles. That speaks for itself. Then uh, Bill
Belichick really, I mean stock answer, but you can't do
any better than him. That comes to football coaches, Uh,
college basketball, I've got coach k which just whenever I

(01:42:28):
think of college basketball, that's the first person that comes
to mind. Um. And then finally from college football, I've
got Nick Saban. I think he's in the same same
boat as Bill Belichick, where it's just there's there's no
one that's ever done it better. Yeah, certainly from the
recruiting standpoint, without a doubt. Excellent answers bow Figgy, what

(01:42:49):
you got, alright, So I'll go with I'll double up
on Phil Jackson because he's obviously one of the all
time great, if maybe the best coach in the history
of the n b A. I'm gonna stay in the
NBA and go with someone else who discussed earlier in
pat Riley. I've always been impressed by going back to
his coaching days, let alone for what he's done as
an executive with the Miami Heat over the last decade

(01:43:11):
and a half or so. But they able to win
championships with the Showtime Lakers, and although he never won
any titles with the New York Knicks, he had them competitive,
and not only competitive, they literally played the polar opposite
type of basketball than what the Showtime Lakers played. And
to me, that is always the medal of a great coach,
knowing the talent that you have to work with and

(01:43:32):
finding a way to be able to maximize that talent
for them to be able to win. And for him
to do that with two completely different teams, two completely
different rosters with different skill sets. Um, I've always I've
always respected and lauded him for being able to do that.
I'm gonna say Mike Homegrin, because you always talk about
the Andy Reid coaching tree, and Mike home Grin is

(01:43:52):
a bit of a spinoff off of the Bill Walsh tree.
But the amount of guys who became head coaches great
assistant coaches throughout the last two deck aids in the NFL,
many of them have roots to Mike Holmgren, who was
a phenomenal offensive coach back in the day for the
Packers and even built the Seahawks into a Super Bowl
contender and they lost one to to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

(01:44:13):
And then I'm gonna go with coach k in college
basketball for setting a standard of excellence at Duke for
as long as he has one of the faces, if
not the face of college basketball for the last twenty
five years plus excellent excellent answers. Would you give Andy
if he wins it, would you give Andy some rushmore love? Oh? Yeah,

(01:44:34):
you have to consider that. I mean, look at what
he turned the Eagles into when he got there and
then going to Kansas City turning that around very quickly.
I mean absolutely, I think he I think he's a
Hall of Fame coach if he retired right now and
it's still not over. He can have another championship in
his back pocket before this, you know, before for the
next week or so. So absolutely absolutely, I uh alright,

(01:44:56):
fig I got a request. Now. This comes from friend
Nick listening in Pennsylvania. Nick says, Figgy, when he does
the trendings, should refer to Joel and Bead with his
thirty seven points and eleven rebounds in less than thirty minutes,

(01:45:17):
as quote m VP front run Joel and b Yeah,
he's deaf, He's definitely in the conversation. I may be
able to slip that into the next the next trendy.
I think you would make Nick in Pennsylvania very happy
if you did that. All right, let's see what I
can do for you, Nick. Oh. Yeah, speaking of which,

(01:45:39):
how about those thirty seven points and eleven rebounds from
the m VP front runner Joel Embiid and a big
victory for the Philadelphia seventies sixers over the Minnesota Tember
what was on Friday night? So there you go. James Harden,
the former MVP triple double et nets over Oklahoma City
and blowout fashion. Trey Young got forty one leading Atlanta
over Washington thirty points. This is for Damarta rosen As

(01:46:01):
the Spurs beat Denver. You also had victories for the Clippers,
Pelican Kings, and the Knicks in college troops Illinois bi
Iowa eight to seventy five, and the Farmers Insurance Open
Victor Hovelin one Shot Leader for Patrick Reid, and a
couple of others. News out of the NFL on Friday,
the Packers parting ways with defensive coordinator Mike Petton after
deciding not to extend his expiring contract. The Athletic is

(01:46:22):
reporting the Rams up entered into preliminary trade discussions with
other teams for quarterback Jarrett Golf and a big story
out of Major League Baseball, the Cardinals have agreed to
acquire all star third baseman Nolan Eronado from Colorado Penning
Eronado waving is no trade claus. Reports are he will
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(01:46:48):
the big man shoes um cause and together we are
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a whole lot of something on Auto Insurance all right,
diffick man, that's that hardened thing is is wild right,

(01:47:09):
so he has the monster night. Um. I wanted to
bring this up to you and then we're gonna go
back to the flour but hardened. I was talking to
Tim Legler, who is a buddy of mine with my neighbor.
He's the NBA Annalsto on ESPN, former NBA player, and
we were talking. Now he was quoting ESPN next gent stats,

(01:47:29):
so I want to make sure that this is where
he you know, where I got it from. And he
talked about the end of games, last three minutes of
close games and James Harden dominating the shots and the
end the ball in his hands at a ridiculous clip,

(01:47:53):
having the ball twice as as much as Kyrie and
Kay and taking shots three to one to those guys.
Now can that be? And by the way, they haven't
fared too well in those games. Now it's early and
they have to learn how to play together. And you
can see they could be dynamic. But can the three

(01:48:16):
of them? Can they do it? I mean yeah, they
just have to be able to figure out what that
closing strategy is. And the problem is all three of
those guys are used to being the Kevin Duran by
the way up the three is more used to being
able to play off the ball and just play off
of whatever is happening, considering his experience in Golden State.
But Kyrie used to have in the ball in his hands.

(01:48:36):
James used to have in the ball in his hands.
It's gonna be an adjustment period for those guys to
be able to figure it out. I wouldn't be concerned
right now. I think they've played for the three of
them together have played what three games, four games, something
like that, So they're still trying to figure it out.
But it's an interesting trend to uh, to keep keep
observing um because we do know that's that's what James

(01:48:56):
Harden does. He gets the ball and he does his
own thing, especially one of the games down the stretch.
You know. The big criticism of him is people say, oh,
you average a triple double and then like there was
a stat were like he gets like six and a
half assist per game in the first quarter, you know,
so it's like he's really patting his assist stat's early
in games, and his stat line looks a lot better
once it's all said and done. While knowing he's doing

(01:49:17):
a lot of the things by himself throughout the majority
of the game. But so right now, I'm not concerned.
But if if this trend continues, you know, a month
from now, then maybe it's something to look at a
little bit closer. It really is. It's uh, it's very
interesting because it could be an issue for that team.
I mean, the good thing is all three of them
have the ability to play well off the ball. You know,

(01:49:40):
those guys can all. You know Karrack Kyrie can catch
and shoot. We know what Katie can do obviously without saying,
and James Harden has shown at times the propensity to
be able to play off the ball effectively as well.
So it's not like they can't do it. I just
think it's an adjustment because those guys are so used
to having you to do everything on their own. Now,
I will say this, I've never been I reckon NIC's
his greatness and his ability and he's a too tremendous

(01:50:04):
talented player. Goes without saying, however, I've told you this before.
I think James Harden is a hussah that's from scarfaced lore,
that's a pig that doesn't fly straight. Just you know,
he indulges like a hassa would. That's Frank Lopez said,

(01:50:28):
I maybe they're talented enough to overcome it. Well maybe
maybe not. And maybe Sixes can say it. It's possible.
Possible Sixes Lakers like Magic said. I agree with Magic.
I can see it, especially if it's playing at this level.

(01:50:49):
It's right up, all right, Chris, I give you a
super Bowl, I say, Chris, take me to the super
Bowl that stands out in your mind's eye. You say
it's going to be super Bowl forty seven against the
forty Niners and the Ravens a little more recent And

(01:51:10):
I don't know why the super Bowl is stuck in
my head, but it is. You say, super Bowl is
the first thing that pops in my head. I don't
know if it's because we had Joe Flacco against Colin Kaepernick,
or the hard Bob Brothers facing off, or it's the
last I was gonna say. It might just be the blackout,
just because it was such a weird happening during that
Super Bowl. It was such a weird super Bowl, Like

(01:51:31):
the whole atmosphere of the game changed after that blackout too.
But for whatever reason, Baltimore Ravens San Francisco forty Niners.
First thing in my head when you say super Bowl,
great answer, Bow. That's so funny because until he mentioned that,
I had completely forgotten that that game happened, probably probably

(01:51:51):
because of the blackout. UM. For me, it's uh, it's
oh seven, the Giants and the Patriots, the undefeated season
stop for the helmet catches. The first thing that pops
into my head. I think it was Tyree right on
on Rodney Harrison. I'll never forget. And then Plaxico in
the corner of the end zone saved saved generations from

(01:52:13):
having to hear about the undefeated Patriots. So now it
was it was. It was awesome, and God blessed Steve
spagnul Oh, our dear friend of the show, Spags, who
orchestrated that an incredible defensive plan against Brady. He has
been throughout his career as a d C Brady kryptonite.

(01:52:35):
Can he do it again? Fig You know, Spags, He's
got Brady's number. Be him last year? Right, the guy
did even the Super Bowl. They beat him earlier this year,
so I think, But that the game was in Tampa
if I remember correctly, that's correct. That's correct. Interesting, Uh,

(01:52:55):
the game that I think of, and this is where
it falls into the category of you know, anything can happen,
And to a lesser extent, I did think about that
giant Patriot game when the Patriots are undefeated. I think
of the Patriots and the Rams back in two thousand
and one, when the greatest show on turf was phenomenal
and they were gonna run them over. There were thirteen
and a half point favorites. I believe. I think that
at that point the biggest Super Bowl favorite of all time,

(01:53:19):
and the Patriots at this young unknown quarterback Tom Brady,
you know, and a really good defense but no real
standout star players found a way to ground the greatest
show on turf and get themselves a major upset. So
whenever something seems like a foregone conclusion, yet a team
can come in and get themselves a nice upset victory.
You know, that's the first, the first game that I
think of anytime there's a major underdog, it's like anything

(01:53:42):
can happen. If you don't believe me, go back to
the Super Bowl in two thousand and one, excellently sitting
here waiting for someone to say the Falcons Patriots Super Bowl.
But I guess, and the thing is, yeah about the
russ how about throwing the ball? Oh yeah, another one. Yeah,

(01:54:06):
It's a lot of interesting finishes, especially recently. I guess
the issue with the Atlanta Super Bowl with the Patriots,
the game as a whole, I guess, unless you're a
Patriot hater, probably wasn't that great until the fourth quarter
when the comeback actually started happening. To be talking about
a great game from start to finish probably doesn't fall
within that category. Like the Philly New England game was
spectacul or start to finish. I was scoring, they was

(01:54:29):
scoring up the young Yang in that game. I respect that.
But whenever the Falcons start to just collapse on a
major stage like that, I can't help but but just
smile a little bit, just because it's just it's so classic.
The funny part is it it just kept on going
the last couple of the couple of years. Every time
the Falcons are up by more than one score, you're like, well,

(01:54:50):
the other team hasn't right where they want him. It's
just Georgia sports in general. Because Georgia, the University of
Georgia did the same thing and then the Braves just
choked a three one lead this year. Yeah, that's true.
Good point. Heartache resides in Georgia. Let's uh come back
and we'll do the rest of the four where the

(01:55:10):
fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio, Fellas slid from
the Farmers inshurance Fox Sports Radio studios call Farmers in
shorts and get a quote Figgy because hanging. Let's continue

(01:55:30):
with the four. All right, guys, give me the greatest
betting story you've ever heard, Chris. We embark on betting season,
at least when it comes to the Super Bowl, the
culmination of it. What do you got, Oh, I've got
a doozy for you. So, my friend Ryan from back
in Michigan, he is part of our Lions podcast crew.

(01:55:53):
He is a gambling fiend. We give him the nickname
Bovada King six nine Um. He likes to allegedly make bets.
He is like a high school teacher, so he always
puts it in a veneer of respectability. But one year,
a few years ago, I think it was, he was
down in Punta Kana, you know, his his girlfriend went

(01:56:14):
down there on some sort of business trip and he
had an all expenses paid time on the resort in
Punta Kana, and while he was down there, he put
in a bet a parlay. Bet I forget how many teams.
It was an NBA bet I remember it involved the Grizzly.
The Grizzlies though, and it netted him five hundred and
forty seven dollars. And while this is going on, while

(01:56:36):
he's waiting for teams to get done, he is getting
progressively more and more drunk as the night goes on.
And he's trying to record a Lions podcast with us,
and it's just he is going manic. He is screaming.
One time, he's interrupting segments. We have to redo a
bunch of stuff because he won't stop. He orders room
service at one point, forgets that he orders room service.

(01:56:56):
He he ends up ordering room service again. We have
to keep getting him onch rack and his girlfriend comes
in and yells at him. We have for this all
recorded on the podcast that we did with him, and
at the end he's just, you know, fall He sends
us a vine of him falling into bed with five
forty seven dollars American cash in his hands from his uh. However,

(01:57:18):
many team parlay wasn't the biggest bet, but it was
the most memory. That's a great one. No, that's a
great story, man, I love it. I love it. Uh,
where'd you got bo? Your greatest betting story ever heard? Uh?
So I don't gamble at all, but uh, the closest
thing I'll get is the last time I was in Vegas.
I was there for a music festival, and I told

(01:57:39):
myself every day that we were there that I was
going to go put a future bet on the Dodgers
to win the World Series. And every single day I
would just get back to the hotel room too tired
to do it. And um, last day, like I was
telling myself the entire I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna go
put that bet. I'm gonna go put that bet. I'm
gonna go put that bet. And then UH just kind
of forgot and we left. Yeah, you never did it.

(01:58:03):
Didn't get to do it at all. I didn't do
I didn't do any kind of gambling. And we were
in Vegas for like five days. Uh festival, that's one thing.
But you're a Dodger man. Yeah, I mean you know,
we weren't. We weren't at the music festival all day.
Every day. There were plenty of opportunities. I just uh
never never remember to do it. That's a shame, shame.

(01:58:26):
So I'm also not much of a gambler, and this
isn't a personal story but another one that's in the
same vein of underdogs finding some way to win for
no reason whatsoever. And Chris can probably helped me out
with this because I'm not a big soccer guy. So
there is a club called Leicester City and they notoriously
are are bad and have been bad for a very
long time. Entering into I believe it was the twenties

(01:58:49):
sixteen season, they had five thousand to one odds to
win the Premier so no chance whatsoever to win the
Premier League. They go on this absolutely crazy st quit
run actually win the Premier League. There's one guy that
was tracked that actually put a bet. I think he
bet it was about thirty dollars Americans something like that,

(01:59:11):
and he actually cashed out early as the season went
on and on and on. Had he actually stayed all
the way through, he could have basically won three hundred
thousand dollars on a fifty dollar bet. I think he
ended up winning about I think something. Yeah, yeah, I
just oh, man, you should have held on. But like
this is this is like the equivalent of taking like

(01:59:31):
the Jacksonville Jaguars to win the Super Bowl or something,
and it actually happens, not even that, taking like Alabama
to somehow get thrown into the NFL and win the
Super Bowl, right because they were notoriously relegated. Right. Well. Also,
no one like for a team to just randomly come
up and join an elite club of like six or
seven clubs. I've only won the Premier League and all

(01:59:52):
its history, just when you've never had that kind of
success or even money pumped into you is just in.
It's like something a movie. It's like a movie we made.
I'm surprised and may be in the works right now.
It's it was improbable, and I'll never forget that there
was one guy bet potentially could have won three grand,
had to settle for about That is why I wish

(02:00:16):
I could settle for eight grand. I'll just say that
I'll take eight dollars. Let's go. I love it. I
love it. I's trying to move quickly. Uh, Chris, give
us some advice for those depressed over lost of football. Well,
we just heard it right there. You can get onto
football on the other side of the pond. Get up early,
watch yourself some premier leagues and Bundesliga, learn what the

(02:00:39):
great game looks like. All right, bo, give me some advice.
This one is more regional because only about three teams
are actually participating. But baseball is coming, so you'll always
have that. Yeah, I like I Bo, I like it. Figgy,
come on, and it's tournament time. We're getting down to it.

(02:01:00):
We was taken from us last year because of COVID.
I know it's gonna look a little bit different, but
everybody being an indie this year. But n C double
a tournament time, you start turning yourself to college basketball,
and let's get back to what we all know and
love basketball morning, noon and night. For the first couple
of weekends, let's go. I can't wait for that. I agree,
that's a great answer. All right, we got a big

(02:01:23):
at nine o'clock hour ahead, six o'clock hour ahead. Let's
get some football fellas on Fox. All right, welcome back, fellas,
And for Big Lake the fig it's been doing a
great job hanging out. Always a blast on Anthony Gargano

(02:01:44):
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Welcome to a sports Saturday. Kevin figgures. I'm Anthony Gargano

(02:02:29):
as uh, we hang out. Get you ready? First weekend
of non football, right, super Bowl? And then it's over? Fake?
Do you get at all the little mournful during this period?
A little bit? Um. I also get myself ramped up
into the NBA season and the college basketball season, so
I set myself up for this. By the time wild

(02:02:50):
card weekend arrives, I kind of know where in the
wine down period of the NFL season, so I start
ramping up my interest in the NBA and in college
basket ball. So it's for me, it's always a general
seamless transition from one to the next. Obviously, nothing can
trump the NFL, but I prepare myself for this very
moment every single year. So it doesn't hit me like

(02:03:12):
a ton of bricks. And I don't wake up on
the Sunday after the Super Bowl saying what am I
doing with my life? You know, yes, as those losers
like myself will do, because I will say, oh my god,
I'm gonna make it six more. The world's over, YEA,
nothing to do. You know, it's amazing about the sport

(02:03:33):
of football and this is what we miss. And I
actually think it's you know, truly almost physical. It's a
physical addiction because what the NFL does is it releases endorphins.
You got the NFL rush, right, So you you a

(02:03:53):
Belding fantasy or whatever you're met there or just just
just football made your favorite team team, You're going nuts.
You know. It's stuff that you can't do, like fantasy.
Baseball doesn't compare, right, Yeah, that sort of thing because
baseball games and even basketball games, they aren't events. Football
games are events because there's so few of them. Yes,

(02:04:17):
and because it's an event, so there's a bigness that
surrounds it and it really don't do any other night
because for the first time, I mean outside of a
football game, I was like, Wow, man, I'm like pumped up.
It was before Lakers Sixers and it had like an
event type of field to it for sure. And then

(02:04:39):
I played out that way. Sixers got out to a
great start, Lakers fall back game, win, a shot by
Tobias Harris. You get those games, and I know some
are hoping for a similar, you know situation tonight when
the Lakers play the Celtics, but it's just different, you
know because again, even with that atmosphere and it feels
great and feels big, it's one out of seventy two,
you know what I mean, You're not getting a whole

(02:05:00):
out of but you know, one out of sixteen in
in an NFL season is everything. It's a lot. You
know that that it matters so much more, and I
think that's one reason why the NFL is so beloved.
And I brought this up on the show as well.
You know, you have time to be able to miss it.
You know, it has the shortest regular season and the

(02:05:21):
longest offseason of any sport that we any other American sport,
So you have a lot of short you have a
lot of time to miss season. I know we've had
that discussion to I don't have my reinforcements link here
to back me up. It's fine the way it is,
And let's face it, Lake only says it's fine because

(02:05:42):
he has a grueling sixty seventeen weeks trying to buy.
So he's just looking like the work and the travel
by week ten, he's just looking towards the finish line now.
But we're not because we love it. I do love it,
and I'm not I'm not posed to a little bit more.
But I don't want it to be oversaturated. I don't

(02:06:04):
need a twenty eight weeks season or something ridiculous. You
know what I just would add, I would just, you know,
the hell, would it make it an eighteen game season?
And that's that. You know, I'd do the double by
so I would extend it three more weeks. We're head
at that direction anyway. So the way it's making that
was always my plan. I used to run by all

(02:06:25):
the time, the Gargago plan. Yes, I would run by Link.
So you brought college basketball and in action to the right.
It feels like every time like you wake up from
your football slumber and you focus on college basketball, you'll
see that Gonzaga it's sixteen and oh yeah, and with

(02:06:46):
no signs of slowing down either. I mean, they've been amazing,
amazing every year ago, A lots are ridiculous. Well how
they've evolved, you know, and in this last twenty years
or so, they came from the upstart, you know, the
Cinderella of that shows up every single year. Maybe they'll
make a run to the Sweet six team if they're lucky,
the Elite eight. Now they have turned themselves into an

(02:07:07):
actual legit year after year powerhouse. I mean, they're likely
gonna go wire to wire as the number one team
in the country. And as good as Baylor as look
this year, I don't know if it's even close. Baylor's
undefeated too, and and it it does suck. They were
supposed to play each other about a month ago, and
because there was a COVID issue with Gonzaga, they weren't

(02:07:28):
able to play it. Um, but that that would have
been a phenomenal matchup and still could be. Uh, you know,
a preview of the National Championship game. But we know
the tournament's a crap shoot. But to me watching them,
and I think Houston is a really good team too. Uh, Gonzaga,
I think is his head and shoulders above everybody else.
They're so deep and really talented. It's it's unbelievable. A

(02:07:49):
couple of good games. I think, good team. They got
fo um. I like, uh, Baila Rollburn's interesting game. Virginia
Virginia Tech is a great game. Uh. That's always a
good rivalry. Alabama Oklahoma. It was Alabama Ona like nine
games in a row or something. Crazy. Man. Of course

(02:08:12):
on Fox today Villanova there they got seen all. It's funny.
I was watching Villova Providence last week and you could
see they had some COVID issues and so they were
on the sidelines for over three weeks. So they've been
it's a little slow coming back. They had slow first

(02:08:32):
had against Providence. And the thing about Nova which makes
them dangerous is that and when they scored, they just
come that in waves. You know, they're really good. Gillespie
is really good. They can give hit threes. Typical Jay
Wright team. He's got an amazing formula that he has.
A Villanova and I think they're gonna be in the

(02:08:53):
mix as well. Yeah, they have someone. They have really
good depth. You know, they have a lot of guys
averaging you know, double figures, I think the stat was
five or five guys at least five Assisscu's averaging double
figures for them, So they have they have a lot
of good depth. They are obviously well coached. So you
can never sleep on the Wildcats and and how dangerous
they are for sure, And you brought it up earlier.

(02:09:14):
We're a game tonight in the NBA, the Lakers and
the Celtics. Lakers on their Eastern Swing road trip at
Boston tonight. ABC. You know, it's funny about Lebron he
like he we say this all the time, but when

(02:09:35):
he comes out East and you get a closer look
at him again and you just go, wow, man, he
is so good. What he did earlier in this week
against Cleveland with the executive clapping too loud, and then
back to back and gets Philadelphia. He's phenomenal. And now
you know, now you get the Lakers against the Celtics tonight.

(02:09:57):
It's a shame, though, Tatum, but you because that's a
killer for for them. But that Bolston team is not bad. No, no,
not at all. There there as much of a contender
in the Eastern Conference as anybody. I I feel like
there's still a piece or two missing from them, even
though they've been to the Eastern Conference Finals. It seems
like every year for the last three or four years. Um,

(02:10:18):
I feel like there's still a piece missing, and I
can't really put my finger on what that may be
for them. But if you want to call this a
measuring stick game to a certain degree, I don't know
if Anthony Davis is going to be back in the
line up for the Lakers or not. And you know,
Lebron James ran out of gas in the second half
and their loss to Detroit the other night. He played
thirty eight minutes against Philly, so he had a great

(02:10:38):
start to the first half against Detroit and then just
petered out in the second, proving that he is as
phenomenal of a player as he is at thirty six
or thirty five. How ode is He's still human but
still having a spectacular season. We were talking earlier about
Joel and Bed being one of the favorites for m
v P in the early season. Lebron James isn't far off.
You know, if anything, Anthony advis is you know, kind

(02:11:01):
of taking it, taking a bit of a step back
and you know, resting a little bit. If you want
to call it that or not being as aggressive or
as as amazing. This year, Lebron James has been full
throttles from the opening tip and hasn't really slowed down
at all, despite the fact that he's been listed as
a question about for a few games this year. He
is the ultimate freak of nature to be able to

(02:11:21):
play at the level that he's playing yet at his age,
and not only his age. We know when it comes
to the NBA with these guys starting so young, it's
wear and tear. How many years he's been playing, it's on.
He didn't he didn't have any breaks in between. You know,
it wasn't like m J where he took a year
and a half or two years off or anything. He
has played all the way through deep runs into the
playoffs every year for the last decade and he's still

(02:11:43):
playing at an extremely high level. He's one of the
more impressive athletes I've ever ever had watching him too.
Like the most amazing thing about Lebron. And you know,
I know people get tired, but you can't lose sighted this.
I think it's important, it's important to the culture of sport.

(02:12:04):
What makes him truly special fake is that he has
never succumbed to the spoils, right, Like we've seen times
where I joke around that hard and Kumahasa right, too
many shrimp coxhil and I mean that metaphorically. Well, Lebron
he never succumbs. He's never figuratively fat, right, he's never

(02:12:31):
been not of shape. And the crazy partly literally but
figuratively from a mindset, He's never bloated, he never indulges,
he's not satisfied. He's never been satisfied. And the crazy
part is he entered into the NBA with all the
expectations in the world. We remember when he was a
kid on Sports Illustrated at seventeen, and people said, you know,

(02:12:52):
he's gonna be possibly the greatest player in the history
of all time and he's gonna be a Hall of
Famer before he even laced up a single sneaker at
the NBA level, and I didn't think it was possible.
I think he's actually surpast expectations, you know, considering all
the things that he's done at this level. It's for
all of the scrutiny that he had or all of
the publicity he had coming out and to still be

(02:13:14):
able to remain focused and continue to work hard and again,
through all the adversity he'd been through, you know, all
the all the criticism, he's been able to silence all
of that and be able to play at a high
level for all these years. It's a it's a it's
a a testament to his mental toughness. For yet all
the physical stuff in the million dollars a year on
his body and all that, the mental toughness to be

(02:13:34):
able to do that is is the amazing part to me.
I used to always resist the debate or the argument
when it came when it came to Mike. But I
still think Mike's one. But he's right there, man, Bronze,
just right there, just because no one's had the will.

(02:13:56):
The only other person I've ever encountered with that kind
of will to win, other than maybe Brady is Kobe.
Where was Kobe? You know? And he had that fig No,
you gotta split listen, great stuff. It was a blast
hanging with you this morning, man, filling it for Link.
You did an incredible job. Now, I appreciate the opportunity

(02:14:19):
Anthony and our guys got Schapiro for forgive me a
shot to do this. I appreciate it in big link
for like I said, being able to fill in for
his shoes, even for a little bit, it's a great honor.
So I appreciate the love, I appreciate the support, and
I appreciate you guys out there listening. And we'll we'll
talk to you next week. Brother sounds good. Baby here
he is, the fig will come back. We've still got

(02:14:39):
a couple of segments to hag. I want to get
into the goats. I want to talk some goats. I
want to talk some quarterbacks. I also want to talk
about coaches and these news conference and the right attitude
that these coaches need to have when they're introduced to
the public. We're the fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio. Fellas,

(02:15:07):
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(02:15:27):
So I want to get to this a little bit
because we two coaches made their had their introductory news
conference yesterday and it was rather interesting. David Culley in Houston,
longtime NFL veteran, the he's also part of the Andy

(02:15:50):
Reid Tree and Nick Sirianni in Philadelphia who supplants Doug
Peterson who three years ago want a Super Bowl and
is out Peter should also and Andy Reid Tree member.
So it's interesting to look at the news conference and
it brings us back to what Dan Campbell did in Detroit.

(02:16:16):
So yeah, listen, I know Dan Campbell the little chunk
or piece, and at a little chunk, I don't I
do kind of meaning it's a joke. Uh, that we
took out of the Dan Campbell news conference where he
talked about biting kneecaps was just a piece of his
news conference. I thought all at all he was good,

(02:16:41):
I know, and he had his passion. And you know, again,
it was only a small snippet. It wasn't like the
whole news conference was you know, cannibalistic, right Like, It
wasn't the whole crazy Yeah, I remember Dan dight him
and kill him and you know they drink their blood.

(02:17:02):
It wasn't any of that. So you know, we made
a big deal out of that news conference. And it
was odd because yesterday I liked the way Cully handled it.
Because Collie came right out and said, look, DeShawn Watson,
I did off him. He's gonna be a Houston Texan,
not Cassario. The GM came out and he read from

(02:17:25):
a prepared statement and he as he introduced David Culley,
he was a little bit kind of stayed. And it
brings me to these coaches and gms. They need to
be presidential. For instance, Nick Sirianni and listen, he's thirty nights,

(02:17:49):
so he's on the younger side of the head coaches thing.
And he was very excited, and I admire, like I
I'm I can understand, and I should say I appreciate
eight him being excited and being into it. However, it
was clear and it's why he lost the news conference

(02:18:12):
that you know management is pulling the strings because management said,
whatever you do, don't talk about Carson Wentz. And so
of course all the meaning was gonna ask about is
who's the quarterback? What do you think about the quarterback?
What are your plans for Carson Wentz or Jalen Hurts?

(02:18:36):
Are you going to do you guys thinking about trading
Carson Wentz to the Colts? Are you talking about trading
him to the Rams? Trading him to the Saint whatever,
right to Chicago, What what are your plans and port?
Nick Siriani and all you say that because he really
melted under the pressure, was more like, well, you know,

(02:18:59):
I haven't really watched the shape and we're not gonna
really answer that now. I can't answer that now. And
you know, this is where good people in sports get
it wrong. I know that you can't give away company secrets,
but you can get up there. You don't need to
keep looking down at notes, right. You need to talk

(02:19:22):
to the fan base. You need to look at the
imagine that you look at the now he's in a
zoom call, which makes it need at either, but you're
looking at them at the press, and you imagine you're
talking to your constituents. One of the things about being
a head coach, and I used to say it all
the time in my hometown of Philadelphia, that the job

(02:19:45):
of head coach is bigger than being the mayor of
that city. And it's no different in Houston. It's no
we're football is so important to our society, to our culture,
and I'm not saying it should be, but in many
ways it is. And when you approach it, whether you're

(02:20:09):
a coach, or GM. You gotta be presidential, you gotta
be a CEO. You gotta stand up there, and you
gotta talk to the fan base, and you gotta do
so by committing with commanding the room. And so the
appropriate way to answer say about the quarterback is, have

(02:20:32):
I thought about the quarterback situation? Have I thought about
Carson Wentz or Jalen Hurts Hell Yeah, I thought about
it when I was making my kids eggs this morning.
I thought about it when I was in the shower.
I thought about it when I was driving to the

(02:20:53):
store last night, when I was putting in a light bulb,
changing a light bulb. Whatever it is, it's it's on
the front lobe of my brain. That's all I think about,
is the quarterback. Now do I have an answer for you?
Not today today, I'm just beginning the journey. I've already

(02:21:15):
started working, but today is the official start of the journey,
and I will have an answer for you. But I
need to roll my sleeves up and I need to work.
I need to go to work, and I need to
vet my quarterback situation. And my hope is that I'll
be able to, you know, rebuild Carson Wentz Or I'll

(02:21:40):
be able to nurture Jalen Hurts. And I'm just using
that as an example, but that's how you need to approach.
You're gonna be real with people. These guys like they
can't say anything. You're not giving away company secrets. And
I got news for you. The NFL is a small
circle of people. You don't think that the rest of
the ignos the rams have fallen out of favor with

(02:22:03):
Jared Goff. Of course, everybody knows that the minute Tara
Goff could have played, it wasn't gonna play with Watford.
Well what's that telling you? And by the way, he's
got everybody talks. It's it's like Gossip Girls, right, everybody's

(02:22:25):
chitchatting DNA Lane. Everybody's talking. So with the fan appreciates
and you know, as bigger sport yets, invariably the more
distance it has with its fans. And it's never been

(02:22:46):
more literal and figurative this year because of the pandemic.
It's like, show your fansom respect, Like, let's talk. If
you were going to say, hey, listen, I love Carson Wentz,
I I want to fix him. He struggled last year. Well,
everybody knows he struggled. Is that gonna hurt his trade value?

(02:23:08):
Of course not. If a team is gonna trade for
Carson Wentz, They're gonna already have made up their mind
by looking at all the tape. We're gonna make their
mind up by saying, can I fit this guy in
a cap so I think I can rehab him, turn
this guy around, They'll have already made that decision that
lose value. He's are friend, these are any of these guys,

(02:23:32):
they're potential franchise quarterbacks. DeShawn Watson, I don't know. It's
just showing me. Here's what you do. If you're Mr
g M. Yeah, I've called no, go to DeShawn Watson's
house with David Culling and you too, Go knock on

(02:23:53):
DeShawn Watson's door and you sit with him. All right, man,
let's get it off your chest. What's your beef with us?
What's your problem with the Texans organization? Please tell me?
And then you listen and you let DeShawn Watson speak,

(02:24:14):
and you listen to him. You gonna listen, Hey, de Sean,
when he's done, we will do whatever it can to
make you happy. Now, you don't understand, we got a
job to do. You understand that we got are certain things,
but we're gonna show you the respect that you deserve. Now,
I don't know, doesn't that go a long way smooth

(02:24:37):
it over? I would think, I just don't get why
there's no common sense with these news conferences and then
how they do their business, and why they can't speak
to you in a in a half honest way. I

(02:24:59):
understand it. All sports execs and coaches lie, but you
could do it with some dexterity, You could do it
with being mostly truthful. The only conclusion I come is
that they're just arrogant, ego driven and stupid. Hello, Ilo,

(02:25:23):
the Lord of Trendings, arrogant, ego driven and stupid. Speaking
of that, here's how are you, baby, my man, the
Hilo Lord of Trending. You were on fire that last segment.
That was great. Well, you know this, Here's the thing.

(02:25:46):
I don't get why these guys they can't go out
and they sound so ridiculous when they don't give you
half a straight answer, Like if you have half a brain,
you can answer your question without giving away the store.
And by the way, what are you really giving away anyway?

(02:26:07):
You have to have a certain amount of respect, not respect,
but just understanding of the intelligence of the fans. And
one thing that I've noticed over the years is you
can't fool the fans. You can't in broadcasting. You can't
fool the listeners either. I think they're a lot more
intelligent than people give them credit for. And they respond

(02:26:30):
to people who come across as genuine and who actually
are genuine, and a lot of them just can't stand
a phony um and I think people try to be
too perfect and impressive instead of being real. I want
to say, by the way, the sneaky favorite part of
that last segment, the gossip Girl reference, by the way,

(02:26:50):
very clever they do. They're all talking. I know, everybody talks.
They talked to media, they talked to other coaches. You know, listen,
we all got everybody who's in media. Lord, a dozen
head coaches, all the guys. What do you do you

(02:27:12):
think they all talked to? Right? All the NFL network guys,
five J Glazer, right, Cheft, all that, everybody who covers
the league. He's talking to everybody, and everybody's chick chatting
and rumor mongering. That's what the league is gossip girl
has nothing on sports. I mean, good lord, you know,

(02:27:32):
and I know, and and the advent of text messaging
has just thrown accelerant on that. I mean, can yeah,
I mean you thought you thought people were gossip me before. Uh,
speaking of gossip and rumors, it's not a gossip, not
a rumor anymore. Kenn Rosenthal reporting the Colorado Rockies agreeing
to trade star third baseman Nolan Eronado to the St.

(02:27:53):
Louis Cardinals along with approximately fifty million dollars in cash,
Thank you, Randy, and exchange for a package of prospects.
In the NBA Friday Night, the Utah Jazz made it
eleven straight wins, defeating Dallas one one oh one, ten
of the eleven Utah victories during their winning streak by
a margin of double digits. The Brooklyn Nets winning at

(02:28:15):
Oklahoma City one twenty five. Kevin Durant was wrested did
not play. James Harden a triple double points, ten rebounds,
eleven assist. Trey Young dropped forty one for Atlanta, and
the Hawks won victory at Washington finally and will hold
on anthy, I'm sorry, I'm getting oh boy, okay, Uh

(02:28:38):
before we get to golf. Also in the NBA last night,
the Philadelphia seventies Sixers rocked the Minnesota Timberwolves one eighteen
to ninety four by the blistering thirty seven points by
m v P front runner Joel m Bead Happy happy, Now,

(02:29:00):
you just made a nick in Pennsylvania. Alright, nick e status,
all right, yes for it from Figgy. You gave it
to him unsolicited. I wouldn't say solicited. Well, kind of
happy too. When when when when I'm in the when
I'm in the middle of going through the Farmer's Insurance Open,

(02:29:20):
and I get a text message from a number from
that area code, from a number that I don't recognize,
with some threatening emojis. Oh, I suddenly remembered about the
Philadelphia seventy Sixers game. M v P front runner m
v P, of course, standing for Most Valuable Philadelphian. Finally
engulfed after two rounds of the Farmer's Insurance Open, Victor
hob Little one shot lead at nine under par overall.

(02:29:42):
And now let's go back to the real most Valuable
Philadelphian Anthony Gargano. I thank you, I we love you.
I love Lord of the trendings. Uh, that's right. Where
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whole lot of something on auto insurance. So Chris is
a guy that that has a lot of these qualities,

(02:30:23):
the young dude that's got a lot of wear with
all like the one thing, You've got a lot of
common sense, Chris, And you know, listen, we talked a
lot about Dan Campbell and his news conference, right, But
what I loved about Dan Campbell wasn't the minute that
everybody was talking about. I thought he got up there

(02:30:46):
and I thought he commanded the room. Yeah, it was
a little bit cartoonish bite kneecaps, Okay, but that wasn't
the entire news conference if you actually listen to the
whole thing. Yeah, he so that that little bite I
always thought was just a play to fans. And from
what my position watching Lions fans, they ate it up.
They love and high energy guy like that, especially after

(02:31:07):
a clown like Patricia. But then yeah, no, you're absolutely right,
because then he's talked about like, hey, you know, I
really like DeAndre Swift. He reminds me of album Kamara
from my time in New Orleans. Why I want to
play him out of the slot. I want to do
more things with him. And he talked about the role
of the quarterback, like yeah, you're right, Like we've we
have formed this massive picture of who Dan Campbell is

(02:31:28):
based on thirty seconds out of a one hour press conference,
and it blows my mind every time, and even smart
people I've seen and heard just cling to that little
thirty second clip and nothing else matters. Yes, yes, yes,
that is so right. And we've been we've been talking

(02:31:49):
about it on this show too, about the staff he's
been putting together and all these guys and you know,
Link even signed off on like you know Aaron Glenn
great Higher. So yeah, I don't know. It's it's trying
to parse as you say that that perception versus the
reality of it just right, And you get my point
about these guys who do these news kinds g ms, right,

(02:32:11):
whether it's Syrianny yesterday and listen, he you know, he's
excited and and I and I respect that. I appreciate that.
I appreciate. He he thanked his big his older brothers.
That's very sweet, Like that's a cool thing. Now, he
didn't need to thank everybody, but you know, he was excited,
and I'll give him a pass for exactly. However, the

(02:32:34):
point is, and this is he was directed did not
talk about the quarterback spot. And you can't do that.
You gotta at least go I don't know if you
just say I don't know, im, I've thought about it,
thought about it, but I'm just starting and you answer
it like, hey, I don't know right now, but that's

(02:32:55):
all I think about. And I promise you that I'm
rolling up my sleeves, I'm getting to work and I'll
have an answered for you at some point. Yeah, what's
the harm of that? None? And I think it's important
to remember too, like these guys aren't being hired to
be public speakers or win anything. But at the same time,

(02:33:16):
the only thing anyone I think is ever asking out
of them is a little bit of honesty, right, And
you gotta be honest about the quarterback position there. You
just you have to be exactly And that's and and
all it is is respect for the fan. And that's
that's why sports radio exists. It exists to protect and

(02:33:42):
to be an advocate for the fan base. Now, we
all have agendas, and you know, we all like which
team that team, but in all in totality, we are
here sports radio. Whether it's I low Figgy or any
of the guys that you listen to on Fox Sports Radio,

(02:34:02):
all the great great hosts here, you know from Colin on, Well,
they're an advocate. They were an advocate for the fans.
And that's what's been forgotten right now, right I sport
grows and grows and grows and grows and bulges at

(02:34:24):
the waist. Well why because all the money and all
the power, right, all that and who gets trampled on
and picked up by your big toe and shaking upside
down to get every last quarter out of here? But
the fan, right Chris, Yeah, absolutely, just yeah. I I

(02:34:48):
think some of these guys get out of two ahead
of their skis. Sometimes I don't like talking about too
many guys in the media, But at the same time, like,
I think different coaches speak different ways, and like yeah,
like Bill Bell, Where where's every everyone killing Bill Belichick
for not doing a good press conference? Right? No one
does that, and yeah, he's got plenty of experience to

(02:35:09):
show that he doesn't need to. But I didn't get
there overnight. He probably had some bad press conferences off
the bat, too, Like I don't, I don't. I feel
like we're just we we have to find stuff to
talk about. But there's there's better things we can do
with our time than just nitpicking over these guys sometimes,
Like as I said, I'm gonna judge Sirianni on the

(02:35:30):
games he wins, the games he loses in football A
lot about a press conference, Well that's without saying. But again,
what we're talking about isn't just a news conference. We're
talking about respect towards the fan, right, that's what we're
talking about. Yeah, and just again I think that was

(02:35:53):
the big blunder he made. Is just you. You can
you can do or say a lot of things. You
can talk about, kneecaps that you want, You can talk
about knee caps you want. You know, you can't go
wrong with being as real as possible. Yeah, And as
you say, and what I said earlier too, is like
the last thing you can do up there is just

(02:36:13):
be evasive about something people want to know. And this
is like as you say, it's about the fans, and
that is a question they want. No Dan Campbell was
even asked, I think just in comparison again here to
keep bring up Campbell, he was asked about Stafford, and
from what I understand, he was told coming in, hey,
Stafford wants out, he doesn't want to be here. And

(02:36:34):
you know, I don't remember Campbell's off the answer off
the top of my head now, but it wasn't evasive.
It wasn't It wasn't a lie either. He talked about
Stafford as being a great quarterback and he hopes he
can work with him. But he didn't, like you know,
he didn't mislead or try to dodge the question. He
just showed, you know, that same excitement for Stafford, even

(02:36:54):
though probably knowing that, Hey, I'm probably saying this about
a guy who's going to be going somewhere else very soon.
So I think, Sirianni, like I mean, if you don't
have an answer, you don't have an answer, or you're
instructed not to talk about it, that's fine. You just
maybe just say you know, he's a great guy, or
talk about his personality or what he means the locker
room or something, but just you know, leave it there

(02:37:16):
and worry if you're the GM in the Texans, you
know we love Deshaun wants. Yeah, you get it, you
get some points. Yeah, and he's talking about how much
love he has for Houston the past. Absolutely. All right,
we're gonna come back and we'll get a couple of
picks for today. We got a big one Lakers Celtics
and then uh, I gotta get a little goat Google,

(02:37:38):
goat chattering. Where the Fellas links off today? I'm because
having on Fox Sports Radio, Fellas big link off today.
I'm because hanging thanks to Figgy for filling in Chris

(02:37:59):
and as always and of course the ill the uh
the embiid fans out there want me to teach Ilo
about the and beast E M B E A S
T the Inner and Beast Uh. Farmers, that's right, We're

(02:38:22):
live from the Farmers Insurance Fox Sports Radio Studios. Call
Farmers today to get a quote. One thing, you know,
we were talking a lot about the quarterbacks today and
you know, should Jacksonville make a play for Deshaun Watson
And that was a point of debate. And it's funny

(02:38:42):
because they were debating on Dan Patrick yesterday and Dan
Patrick says, well, you know what, if Trevor Lawrence is
not the next great player and you have DeShawn Watson, Listen,
I know DeShawn Watson proven, and I love the Shaw Watson.
And if I'm the Bears, I go all in all

(02:39:05):
Deshaw Watson. Or if I'm the Texans, or if I'm
Carolina and my man Matt Rule, I look at it
and go, yeah, I'm digging. I want Deshaan. I look,
they can look at can I trade for? But if
I'm Jacksonville, I think Trevor Lawrence is. I don't see

(02:39:27):
any weakness and what he does, he can make every throw,
He's mobile, he's a great player. Now again, we've seen
a lot of college guys come out and I think
he's I remember feeling this way about Andrew Luck coming

(02:39:47):
out of Stanford, like I think he's there's no doubt,
there's no doubt whatsoever that he's a star. And I
feel that way about Lawrence, and I felt that way
took two for the last two years about him, that
when he comes out, he's can't miss. Now, I thought

(02:40:09):
Luck was can't miss, and Andrew Luck was a terrific player.
Obviously didn't have the career that we all thought he
would because all the injuries and the concussions, But just
as a pure quarterback, as a pure football player, I
think Trevor Lawrence is all that. I think here hasn't
been anyone close to him, and I liked Barrow coming

(02:40:31):
out of l s U. There is anyone close to
Trevor Lawrence, and I sure as hell wouldn't trade that
pick for anything. What now here's the other thing. I'm
gonna take Lawrence. I got all the cap room in
the world, and I got control over Lawrence from my

(02:40:53):
rookie deal. If I don't wonder why that, you know,
Xaville Kugain urban Meyer that spot. If they're not in
the super Bowl in three years, it's a mistake. I
love Gonzaga tonight, by the way, and I like the
Celtics as once. I hate the Celtics, but I think

(02:41:16):
they I think they beat the Lakers tonight. So uh,
that's some of the picks. Will come back next week
with all the props and your super Bowl look, but
I would jump on the Chiefs right now, everybody. Thanks
for hanging have a great week, fellas. Appreciated, have a
great one, see you next week.

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