Bernie Fratto previews Week 15 in the NFL and talks with Jeremy Schapp!

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Angeles compound. Man, We've got a ton on the agenda tonight,
including full NFL analysis for Week fifteen and the Physic
five at about fifteen minutes. We'll also talk you know,
some college football reminisced about memorable moments. We've got to
get to the urban Meyers saga in Jacksonville. How did

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this go so wrong? I will give my thoughts and
we'll bring in the crew on that, and don't forget
in the final hour What kind of brand new fool
are You? Followed by a rousing edition of What My Name?
But first, there were some very impactful and I think

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very impressionable takeaways from Week fourteen in the NFL, and
that's where we begin. Well, it looks like Aaron Rodgers
retains ownership of the Chicago Bears, and I know there
was much a do A do about the memorable I
own you comment to a Chicago fan during Green Bays
win earlier in the season, and Rogers said this past

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week before the game he had no regrets, but he
realizes at some point the line is gonna be used
against him. Will it doesn't matter. Even when the Packers
trailed by eleven at one point, it just seemed like
they were gonna come out like Sugar Ray Leonard did
against Acerns, and you know what happened there. The Packers
are knocking on the door of a third consecutive NFC

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Title North title after this incredible primetime masterpiece. This is
a good football team, no excuses. They're hurt like everybody else.
All they do is show up and win, and they
visit Baltimore tomorrow is a big favorite and Green Bay
is eleven and two against the number. You won't see
me fading them anytime soon, all right, the Cowboys, I

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I know, I called him Barney Rubble and I picked
on him. And I've said some maybe some untoward things
about Mike McCarthy, but I mean I might need to
start to take some of those back. He's done a
good job this year, or I don't know if he's
done a good job. But the Cowboys seem to have responded,
and they're very much in the short list of teams

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that can get to the Super Bowl. And he did
say that the Cowboys would beat Washington. He was right,
you're the man. Credit might not have been the script
he written. The Cowboys were completely dominating at one point,
leading to nothing at halftime, eight leading in the fourth quarter.
Yet they kind of held on for dear life and
one to twenty. But at the end of the day,

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they don't ask Kyle, just Tom Any And that's a
win for Dallas, although it was a bit of a
stagnant offense, and that their defense has been dominating in Dallas.
And please, Dak Prescott, live up to your contract. I
root for you. I would like to. I think it'd
be a great store to see Dallas in the Super
Bowl for multiple reasons. Dak Prescott was intercepted twice, including

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one that was the return for a touchdown to that
cut the game to a one score lead right on.
The Cowboys were also without their left tackle Tehron Smith,
and when he's not in, it's not good. So the
question is on a goal forward basis, based on what
we saw last week in the second half, can the
Cowboys be a contender with this offense? And the short
answer is, I don't know. Maybe no. The running game

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was a little better, but not explosive, and they really
do need Tony Pollard. And you had Prescott's two interceptions
in a case could be man that they're there were
actually three of their passes that could have been picked off,
and the offense doesn't seem to have a lot of rhythm.
So the Cowboys are winning, but they have four games
to find a solution. If they want to be taken seriously,

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now is the time you might want to fix things.
Speaking of Washington, their defense did what they could to
make the game interesting, but Washington's offensive flaws were really
exposed and port Taylor Hannikey, who has done a really
good job by far, played his worst game, not only
this year or whatever his entire NFL career would have been. Uh,

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and he left. He's hurt, He's not gonna play him.
He's got a knee injury. But even without that, he
was off target and multiple throws. And Washington, I think
they're they're down. I know they might be down to
Harry thea Fleets at this point. And if you like
that name and you like that stat, google it. He
Actually it's a well, it's a whole story. I can

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tell you about Steve Sable and NFL films with what
a classic name. Washington is just two bang up. They've
been banged up for a while, but it's gotten worse again.
Ron River as a hell of a coach. I think
they're they're running out of gas. This is a team
that needs to be able to fly that helicopter twenty
miles if they're going to get to the playoffs. But
they've only got enough gas in the tank to go

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eighteen miles. If that, I think you can start to
scratch the red I do this once a week, Redskins
or not the Redskins anywhere. But you know what I
meant I think you can scratch them off her dance
dance card. All right, the Rams give him some credit.
After a disastrous month in November there left some doubt
whether they're quote made for Super Bowl roster was in
fact super Bowl worthy. Rams had a nice game Monday night.

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I think you need to give the defense a hell
of a lot more credit than they got getting the
two key turnovers and those lead to points. But be
that as it may. Again the Rams one. We'll see
him Tuesday night for a little Tuesday night football, and
we'll see if the Rams can continue to win when
there are expectations. None of this is gonna matter. I mean,

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I thought the narrative was still stupid. Monday, Ken Matt
Stafford finally wanted Look, he's one regular season games where
it's the playoffs, my friend, It's the playoffs where there's
been an issue. Let's talk about this in January. That's
all that's gonna matter. You told us he was the
missing link to win a super Bowl, not get to
the Super Bowl, win a super Bowl. You know, by
the way, Stanon Cronky hasn't in his home stadium. He

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loved nothing better than to do with Tom Brady remember
last year, Tom Brady was the missing link the Tampa
Bay Bucks. For seven and nine, they had a quarterback
to through thirty interceptions. You're bringing Tom Brady at water.
They start out seven and five in case you're if
you're scoring a home or hopefully you are, or even
if you're just you know, listening. Uh. Since starting seven

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and five last year the Tampa Bay Bucks, or seventeen
and three and then, it wouldn't be doing that without
Tom Brady. The irony here is in the coincidence. Here,
here's the coincidence, and here's the irony. People always screw
those words up. Irony is when the firehouse is burning down.
People always say, hey, I was at the Laker game
and I saw Bill. How ironic. No, it's not ironic,

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it's coincidental. But what's ironic is the Rams might have
to win three straight road games and the playoffs to
play a home game for the Super Bowl. And that's
exactly what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers did last year with
Tom Brady. We said Tom Brady was the difference. He
was You're telling me that Matt Stafford is the difference.
Let's see, let's see if he is not going to

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go into my tenure history with him and the Lions
and all the times I saw in Ford Field. Will
save it for another day. If Matt Stafford does win
a Super Bowl, I'm telling you I will tip my
cap to the man. He's a good man, all right.
Arizona Cardinals Kyler Murray actually produced four and forty four yards,
but it wasn't enough to overcome two interceptions. Again, that's

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that Ram defense. Meanwhile, the Arizona defense, it's been very good,
zero takeaways and in a very dominant performance by Aaron Donald.
What's the takeaway? But the hell's wrong with Arizona home.
They've got a distinctive home field disadvantage. There's they're like
three and three at home and they went on the road.
Not tomorrow they go to Detroit, their three team ploid favorite.
I don't know if they're gonna cover, but they should win.

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But I will tell you, you played again home field advantage.
They don't seem to have a home field advantage. So
Arizona get to work fixing that, or you might be
hosting a first round game and having an issue because
you can't take advantage of winning at home. All right?
I talked about the Chiefs already they had the perfect
lead up to their biggest game in the season by

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blowing out the Raiders, and then they had a relatively
stress free game. Uh you know with the Raiders, you know,
it was over the second it started, basically, and then
this showed on with the Chargers, showed that the Chiefs
have tremendous amount of momentum and the DNA, uh championship
DNA is showing up. That's the Department of Redundancy Department.

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All right, Raiders, I think it's a rap. They're still
mathematically alive. But remember this is the team who started
five and two, the six and seven. They lost forty
to nine last week the trail thirty five, nothing in
the first half. I'd like to thank the Raiders for
participating in season. Anything could happen, but don't bet out it, Buccaneers.

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Here we go again. Uh, well, this is interesting. The
Bucks were unable to climpse the NFC title South South
title last Sunday, as they needed both the Saints and
the Panthers to lose or tie. The Saints defeated the
Jets thirty to nine. I went against the Saints though
Sunday today later today, we'll clinse the division. As far

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as the playoff seating, well, because the Packers laid kick
off against the Chicago Bears in Arizona's Monday night game
against the Rams, the Bucks weren't really gonna know if
they've moved into second or seat until later. But the
Bears and Cardinals both lost. All right, Buffalo Bills, boy,
there's seven and six, and despite Josh Allen and a

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lot of second half of heroics, they were unable to
come away with a win. I don't look, they've lost
two straight. Where the Bills go for here, I mean
in in in the in the what in the span
of five days? They lost the Belichick and Brady But
the rest of their schedule includes the Carolina Panthers, the
Atlanta Falcons, and New York Jets, all winnable games at home.

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But it's his National Football League. But even though the Bills,
it would appear, hold their own fate in the sense that,
you know, they take care of business and they don't
need help. There's little room for error. And I'm just
not that high in the Bills. They don't run the ball.
I don't know, you know, maybe Thurman Thomas can't find

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his helmet. But somebody's got to find a helmet and
run the ball other than Josh Allen, and I understand
he's got a toe injury. So this Sunday is not unlocked,
by the way, not for nothing. The bye weeks are over, folks,
It's over. And every NFL team has at least three
losses head into Week fifteen. That's the first time in
eight years no team has officially clinched a playoffs spot.

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How crazy is that? All Right? The Niners, they're sneaky, weird,
scary a little bit right now. They should qualify for
the NFC playoffs. Anything short of that would be a
huge disappointment. I think Jimmy g has done a good
job and the Niners. They had to New York tomorrow.
The Giants and the the are lay in a very

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big number. And you talk about a home field disadvantage,
Oh my goodness. Since the Giants have played thirty games
at home in the Meadow Ends, they've won ten, I'm
talking winning. I forget covered in the spread their ten
and twenties straight up, since at home they're nine twenty
and one against the number, and they're home against Dallas tomorrow.

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Laying ten and a half. Wow. All right, the Niners,
we'll see what they do. We're gonna get to that
later with Fez and we'll do a couple of segments
on I'm running down these NFL games and fazis best bets.
All right. The Bengals that they've become sort of the
darling in the NFL. The pressure is back on them
and their third their third year coach is Zach Taylor.

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Back to back losses Cincinnati, Well, they've put more pressure
on themselves to make the playoffs when they lost to
the Niners last week and featured a lot of cossie turnovers.
I don't know what they all happened to their offense,
They made some defensive mistakes. Again, here's another situation where
Cincinnati has little to no room for error in their
final four games if they want to make the playoffs.

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What's holding this team back the offense. The Bengals have
had their moments throughout the season, but Sunday's game last
Sunday's game highlighted truly highlighted Cincinnati's offensive inconsistency that's plagued
the team the entire season. Given all the resources invested
on side, of the on that side of the football.
It's a bit puzzling. But look, they had been playing

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so well that maybe it was unreasonable to think that
they could keep that up. But be that as m a.
You know what they look like when they put it
all together. Now they're going to have to the next
four weeks. They've got to bring their best Otherwise what
looked so promising could turn into a real disappointment. A
lot of Cincinnati's issues have been basically as a result

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of self inflicted wounds. All right, coming up the physic five,
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to back Hilton Super Contest winner Steve Pick. Here's Bernie Fratto. Alright, fays,
we begin by heading back to my own stomping grounds
where the Detroit Lions. They're catching thirteen points at home.
Arizona has won their last seven road games by double

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digit margins, the only they're only the third team in
NFL history to do that. But the Lions have been
very solid as a dom this year. Fans, who do
you like? I like your Lions plus the thirteen Bernie.
Let's face that the Lions got crushed last week, but
it was predictable. They had played four straight close games
looking to finally get the W, and when they got

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that W, they celebrated for ten days. Clearly, and just
that a horrible game last week, I think they go
back to fighting kneecaps and playing hard even though they're
not very good. That's what Lions do. And with Hopkins
out for Arizona, I could see her is on the
perfectly content to coast to a seven to ten point
when and Murray did not run as much as he
normally does. Let's take the Lions well, and in fairness

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to fast one. Lions had the flu last week and
they were sick, and they're tight end. T J. Hawkinson
was out and so was DeAndrea Swift. They don't have
a lot of NFL players in a team, but to
your point, they give a good effort. I think the
line is still thirteen, right, fest catch thirteen and you
know they blowout lost. Last week was not as bad

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as it looks statistically. The lines were down seven and
a third quarter and then they gave up to thirty
yard touchdown drive. So um, a little bit of a
misleading blow. I should have been closer than it was,
all right. Now, One of the games that I think
will actually have a lot of interest tomorrow, uh is
Jacksonville at home against the Texans. While Urban Meyer was

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their coach, they were still laying three. I understand the
line is still steam now till the five now. Interestingly enough,
Jacksonville hasn't scored more than seventeen points in the last
six weeks. In following their bye week, they haven't been great.
Daryl Bevel, though America's interim coach, takes over and Fez.

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In the last six games where an NFL coach has
been fired the following week, the teams when five and
one against the number. Who do you like tomorrow? And
some of those coaches were actually liked, not to spies.
I like Jacksonville. If you listen to me, I do
a podcast midweek with R. J. Bell. My best beet
on the podcast was the Houston Texans plus three and

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app well, you know what, Bernie, things changed. That's why
you got listened to me Saturday night. That was when
Urban Meyer was the coach and the Jaguars were mailing
it in, especially on offense. Now the Jaguars will be
old Trump motivated to put that behind them, and statistically
the Jags are the much better the team than the Texans.
They just weren't trying very hard. Now I think they

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give full effort. I like the Jaguars. All right, sounds good. Fast.
So we had to Denver And this is a line
that sponsored around quite a bit. You can give me
what the current line is. Bengals after Broncos. This is
a tough road assignment. Bengals have to rebond from a
very heartbreaking overtime Lawson home to the Forts last week.

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The Bengals offense has been very inconsistent. But there's a
side you like here. I do I like the Denver
Excuse me, I like the Bengals plus the three. This
is a game I gave out to my clients last week,
eight days ago. I gave out on the look ahead
line the Denver Broncos plus three. So why do I
like the Bengals that Well, there's been a six point

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line move over the past ten days. Now Denver is
laying three. This line makes zero sense. You can maybe
explain this to me, Bernie. The Bengals are better than Denver.
I don't understand how you possibly could suddenly come to
the conclusion that this Broncos squad is the superior team.
And if you do, why didn't you take them last
week plus three instead of minus three. I like the

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Bengals and what should be a very close game. Yeah,
I'm as long as Joe Burrow is healthy. That's the
only decide I would look at. Not involved, But I'm
in agreement with you. All right, here's another game where
you've got a couple of heavyweights who scuffled a bit,
Titans at the Steelers. Now I get it. The Steelers
have been leaky oil like the Exxon Valds, but their

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a home dog now and then, even though they've gotten
one fot on the grave and the other out of
an an appeal, I gotta believe you getting max effort
out of the Steelers tomorrow. Fezz your thoughts. Yes, I agree,
I'm on the Steelers and minus to one. And let's
face it, the Steelers actually get a little bit of
a bump in terms of you look at that a
f C North. Everybody's flipping on the banana peel. It's
still possible possible for the Steelers to win the division.

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Now they won't, but I mean the path is certainly there.
And who are the Titans to be pick them against
Pittsburgh considering, yes, they look great most of the year,
they had the five straight solid wins against playoff teams.
This is not a very good Titan team. It's not
good statistically. Um, it's a team trending in the wrong

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direction that got a nice one against Jackson, team that
had quit last week still only put up twenty points.
Titans overrated Stewart's witness game all right, fist So interestingly enough,
the first four plays this week are all sides. You
like the Lions catching thirteen at home against Arizona Jacksonville
minus four and a half of five depending on where

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you shop at home against Houston, Cincinnati visits Denver, they're
catching three. You like the Bengals, and then Pittsburgh at home.
Let's get to play number five. It involves in prop
bit um. This is a quarterback. He's kind of a
shy guy. You don't hear about him much, but you'll
tell us about him right now. Absolutely. And before I
do that, let me emphasize I never have four sides
that I really like in the NFL. This is a

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very unusual week. If that's the case, we're gonna go
to the prop market. Tom Brady is going to win
the m v P minus one seventy five. Shop around,
he's good up to two hundred. There's really only two guys, legitimately,
I see that can win it right now, Rogers and Brady.
And here's why Rogers won't win it one. He's the incumbent.

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He won it last year. So all things being equal,
if you get two quarterbacks that have close to equal stats,
the guy that won the MVP the year before does
not win the following year. Further, this is Brady's last
chance at an m v P at age fort so
he'll get favorable rounding to give it to him because
of a career achievement sort of situation. And finally, if

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you look at the schedule, Tampa Bay just had a
cupcake schedule the rest of the way, so Brady should
thrive here in the final month. Added all up, Cooper
cup is not winning the m v P. Jonathan Taylor
is not winning the m v P. These guys had
no chance. And now hear experts out they're saying, oh,
that's these guys in a hundred to one. They don't
just call me and I'll give you a hundred fifty

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one because Tom Brady is the MVP alright, says might
want to dive into that is interesting to me. And
again that's prefaces by saying believe it or not. In
December under Matt the Floor, the Packers are not only
a sparkling tenant, oh their average margin of victory is
twelve points. Aaron Rodgers twenty three touchdowns, three interceptions. They

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face I think it depleted Ravens team tomorrow in Baltimore,
leading a lot of points and folks should know if
you're thinking about firing on the Ravens, They've not scored
an offensive touchdown in the first quarter the last seven games. Meanwhile,
the Packers, they are always strong after the Bears. Fourteen

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and one against the number of the week following the Bears.
Who do you like in this game? Fast? Now, that's
an interesting trend. I'll lean to Green Bay. Interesting because
they Bay gets up for the Bears that you think
they might let up after the Bears, and they haven't.
I don't think that Lamar Jackson's gonna play in this game.
I did late five and a half myself on Green Bay.
It's got an expense of at seven in some spot.

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That's why certainly it didn't my list, because the tax
on Green Bay has gone up. But if I had
to bet it, that would be the side. I've seen
some sevens out there. You got a five and a half? Sure, Yeah,
it's five and a half for most of the week.
Um yeah, God, my buddy is a hit man. I
actually may not have been the hit man. Maybe it's
been someone else. Let me know that. His moles said,

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it's it's extremely unlikely when Mark Jackson's gonna go alright. First,
stay right there. Coming up, we've got Chief Chargers, forty Niners,
Falcon Saints, Buccaneers, and much much more. But first let's
go to the man, Mr. Socks and Sandals. He's a styler,
Brian finning with the latest. That is very true. Just

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trying to learn from you, Bernie. But let's dive into
the NFL from Saturday. Jonathan Taylor dissecting that Patriots defense
one hundred seventy yards, a sixty seven yard touchdown down
the stretch as Indianapolis sticks it to the Pats to seventeen.
Carson Wentz, by the way, did not have to do
a whole lot here. He was just sort of coasting
along five of twelve through the air, fifty seven yards,

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one touchdown, and one interception. And how this impacts the
a f C playoff picture. While the Patriots are now
in the number three spot and Indianapolis jumps to number five,
and they have the tiebreaker for the wild card position
as far as the number one spot in the wild
card ranks. College football, a ton of ball games will
touch on a couple of them. Number twenty three Louisiana

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Shells Marshall to twenty one at the New Orleans Bowl.
The Raising Cajuns unleashed twenty unanswered points in that fourth quarter.
Utah State, led by the running back Calvin Tyler Jr.
Had one twenty yards rushing in the game had a touchdown. Yeah,
The Aggies took down Oregon State thirteen at the Jimmy

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Kimmel l A Bowl. Also, Western Kentucky got six touchdown
tosses from their stud quarterback in Bailey Zappy on the
way to a fifty nine to thirty eight book a
Retonabull victory over Apple Lachian State. As far as what
has recently transpired in the NBA, the Wizards overcome the
Jazz one or nine until one oh three, Bradley Beal

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sizzling with the season high thirty seven points. The Calves
get the job done against the Bucks one nineteen to ninety.
Cleveland has the mass six wins in a row and
they are now seven games over five hundred. Then there
was what former Clipper Shay gil Justis Alexander, now a
Thunder member of the Thunder did to his former team,

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the Clippers last night. Scott high Post left five seconds
holding four seconds to say gilberts up front definitely fires
three is up Thunder Radio Network, Yeah, Gil Justist Alexander
the former Clipper hits a three at the horn for
the Thunder as they get a victory against the Clippers
one oh four to one oh three. The Raptors derail

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the Warriors one nineteen to one hundred. But keep this
in mind, Golden State was without Steph Curry, Draymond Green,
Andrea Godala, Andrew Wiggan to name a few, as they
did not make the trip to Toronto. The Magic got
to win against an underman net squad one nine three,
No Kevin Durant as he is currently in the Pro

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the COVID protocols. And then just one mentioned from college basketball,
the top team in the land, Number one Baylor is
now out to tennano on the season after they deflate
Oregon seventy eight to seventies. So number one Baylor seventy
eight to seventy victory over Oregon, the Bears tennant oh
on the season, and they got three or five three

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pointers and sixteen points from Adam Flagler. With that, let's
send him back to a couple of guys who are
dialing it in from distance. It's Bernie Freddo and Steve
fessiks all right, thanks Brian, alright. Back to Steve Fenzik,
the only two time winner of the Hilton Super Contest
did it back to back year? It's Fez that said
out to Atlanta where the Niners are or check that

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Landers are home against Atlanta. They seem to have found
their group. They're currently the numbers six seed in the
playoffs at the playoffs started today. However, their own fourteen
at home against the number when they are a home
favorite of seven or more points. Meanwhile, the Falcons twelve
and three against the spread when they are a division
dog of our non divisional dog of more than six.

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This looks like Atlanta could cover your thoughts. I actually
played the teaser. I played the Niners from nine half
down to two and a half, So I played a
seven point teaser. You've got to get it down below
three with the Niners, and I tease them with Miami,
same thing, nine and a half down to two and
a half. But you know what, Bernie, I would have
no gripe with taken the Falcons half the points as well.

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But if you do take the Falcons, I think you wait,
you might get a ten remember last week. It was
just last Sunday the favorites win eleven two against the spread.
There's pressure in the market on the favorites going higher
because everyone made so much money last week. So you're
seeing inflated numbers by the bookmakers big time. There's at

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least four double digit games this week. One of them
is one of the games it's not a double digit
game but feels like a de facto playoff game. The
Washington football team is at the Eagles, and that game
has been pushed to Tuesday. Philly is two spots back
technically of Washington, who currently still holds the number seven
playoff seed. I gotta imagine you get max effort out

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of both teams, Eagles laying four and a half, would
you like, asked me on Tuesday. I have no idea
who's playing still for Washington. There's too many moving parts
associated with that game, and I would just be guessing line.
By the way, it's six and half currently, but it
could be four and half and it could be eight
and a half and eight hours depending upon the latest
COVID news. The Buffalo Bills host the Panthers tomorrow. Another

(28:47):
of the double digit spreads Buffalo leg north and ten.
They've only won three of their last eight games. You
didn't hear that wrong. In the last eight games the
Bills are played, they've only won three. Can you afford
to lay double digits year? Matt Rule, believe it or not,
the head coach of the Panthers in his life, including
college football, he's a tidy thirty eight and sixteen is

(29:07):
a road dog. Who do you like here? I don't
like anyone. If it goes up to fourteen, I will
take a wire and fed on Carolina. That's my by price,
waiting on fourteen, up to thirteen and climbing. All right,
I know it's not till Monday. But Raiders Broncos. Since
the bye week, the Raiders one in five straight up
and against the spread. Technically still alive in the playoffs

(29:27):
or a twelve seed. But the Raiders, they're the opposite
of the Packers. The week after the Chiefs game, they've
been owing five straight up and against the spread their
last five. Would you even touch this game? Yes, as
soon as you get the latest COVID update. Let's look
at the line move on this game. So Cleveland was
laying sixth burning so you could have gotten plus six.

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And when you got news that Cleveland had COVID, and
then you could have gotten the Raiders plus three. When
you heard Baker, Mayfield and Stefanski had it, and then
the Raiders became a four point favorite, you could have
gotten the Browns plus four. And then they move it
to Monday, so that Cleveland has two more days to recover.
They should get some guys back. The latest number is

(30:09):
Cleveland three. Here's my point, there's no reason to handicap
this game. You're just guessing. You're guessing completely. You just
have to monitor it every single minute, and when the
latest news comes out, the line will move another point
app and just you have to be in front of it,
watching the screen. I don't know how you can win
setting this game other than doing what they described. I

(30:30):
couldn't agree with you more fits. Just because it's on
the board doesn't mean you have to betty. All right,
let's end to the Metal Lands, where the Cowboys a
huge favorite on the road. Now this blows me away.
A fits. You talk about a home field disadvantage. The
New York Giants home their tenants twenty straight up. They've
won ten of their last thirty games, at home. They're
nine and twenty and one against the number. But would

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you be willing to lay a ten and a half
with the visiting Cowboys? God? No, Cowboys didn't look good
against Washington. Both the running backs are back up. I
get it. The Giants have been horrible. You know, every
year there's a game that makes no sense to the
public and some team that's the mathive underdog wins out
right and they're like, that's why you kept at the NFL.
I will predict it this one. Giants win the game

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out right, all right. Dolphins at home against the Jets.
The two in the in the gang are coming off
of bye and I expect him to go after the
Jets biggest defensive weakness. Meanwhile, the Dolphins, and I know
they've got some COVID issues to who doesn't, But there's
seven or against the spread versus the Jets in their
last seven Jets one a night against the number after

(31:37):
bye week, interestingly enough, and they gotta go on the road.
But the Dolphins are laying a price eight and a half.
What are your thoughts? Yeah, so the Dolphins of the
team off to buy and they're good to ease or
tease them down to the two and a half. And
like I said, I teased them with the four niners,
all right, so you're not wanting to lay the full price.
It's one of those games where you gotta you're you're

(31:58):
on it, but you're you're your tea again. Okay, I'm pulling.
Let me pull back the curtain. I don't think that
I've laid seven a half, eight, eight and a half,
nine or nine and a half, any of those numbers
like in the past three years, because mathematically, the teaser,
if you can knock at a team that's an eight
point favorite or nine point favorite down to my two

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and a half, is the superior play. So there's no
reason for me to ever lay a nine when I
can lay a two and a half. So that's how
I've always bet these games, then bet them successfully. I
just feel this year is a little different. I've bet
more favorites this year than I probably have in the
last twenty and as you know, you still have to
have two outcomes to catch that teaser. But that's a
conversation for a different day. The Seahawk. Now, I know

(32:44):
this game is Tuesday, but I want your thoughts on it. Okay,
Seahawks at the Rams. Rams currently the number five seed
to fresh off that Arizona game. The Rams are showing
an opportunistic defense. My thought is Seattle could be testy
here they're getting a round and touchdown. Do you even
touched this game? I'll lean to Seattle and I apologize

(33:05):
for this. I know everyone wants me to give definitive
opinions in all these games, and it's oh, no, no, no,
you give you give what you feel right now, because,
as you know, if you are indecisive or don't like
a game, pass used the Jacksonville game for example, midweek
loved Houston. Now one of my best bets is Jacksonville.
Things changed and now things really changed in the air.

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And I'll say this, Russell Wilson, he's been trending up.
He was awful when he came back from the injury,
but in general the curve is going upwards in terms
of how he's been performing as he gets over his injury.
So if I absolutely had to bet it, I would
take Seattle. Well fair enough, it's a game. I'm telling

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you I will not bet for two reasons. I don't
trust Matthew Stafford. But the bigger reason is Seattle up
until last week says they had lost the stats battle
eleven games in a row. This is not your father's Seahawk.
All right, two more games. These are important Saints and Buccaneers.
I keep hearing everybody every walk on the radio saying, well,
Saint Scott number, they've beating Brady three in a row. Well,

(34:08):
they didn't do it in the playoffs when it matters. However,
Sean McVeigh six and one against the spread and his
last seven road divisional games, but he's got cold issues.
I don't even know if he'll be on the sideline.
It's the standalone game tomorrow at an NBC. Thoughts. Boy,
it is just a quagmire that we need to navigate
through with so much going on. You know, initially I

(34:29):
I would think that Tampa Bay gets the revenge and
they blast the same team that just isn't very good
this year. But the more I look into this, you
know Tampa still injured in the secondary. The Saints are
getting two of their old linemen back who have been out,
and with the Saints getting healthier, if they would have
their coach, I would have got the Saints without their coach.
I'll lean Singts. Alright, fair enoughs final game, we go

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to Monday Night football divisional game, another road favorite, the
Vikings head into Chicago Viking on Monday Night football. Kirk
Cousin question Mark Black teams are only one and eleven
against the number and their last twelve Monday Night games.
You dress them up as a favorite on the road
at Chicago. You're putting a hot house team on cold

(35:13):
grats outside in Chicago. Viking still very alive to make
some noise in the playoffs. But you know the Bears
would just love to peel over their parade. Do you
like the home dog and the Bears or the favorite.
We're gonna wait until Monday and we're gonna play the Bears.
And because of how well the favorites have done, and
now we've got a Monday night game. If the favorites

(35:35):
of a good day Sunday, it would not surprise me,
Burnie if this spread doesn't go all the way to seven.
So big bet on the Bears if we get seven.
Small bet on the Bears if we only get six.
All right, good stuff is And I asked the question
every week if you only had one game to play
tomorrow on a side who would it be Ryan's plus
the third team excellent. Yeah, I think you get max

(35:57):
effort out of them. And uh, to your point, Arizona
would probably just love to get in get out. Who knows. Uh,
it's it's gonna be an interesting game, but you sure
got real value. All right, as always, fays, great stuff,
Good luck later today, buddy. Let me clarify one thing
I said. The Giants are gonna win out right against Dallas.
They could also lose by It's an extremely volatile game.

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That's why the Giants weren't the best bet. Thank you, Bernie.
All right, good stuff as he is Steve Pezik and
he comes to us every week at this time, good
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Hilton Contest Super Contest did it back to back years
coming up? There are so much parody right now that
the tiebreaker is going to rear its head. There's not

(36:41):
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We will take you up to three am Pacific, six
am Eastern. Got a lot of stuff to get to.
We're going to dive into the Urban Meyer situation, talk
about Kyrie Irving. We've got Chris's soccer update at two
thirty Pacific, five thirty Eastern. And of course I'm telling you, man,
you want to be there for what kind of brand

(37:43):
new fool are you? I got another doozy this week,
followed by a rousing addition of what my name? But
first that'll be at the at the two am Pacific,
five am Eastern. But there's been so much parody this
year in the NFL. And I mean p A R
R I T Y, not pr O d Y. Maybe
there's been some of that two um, and you know,

(38:08):
not for nothing, Sean Con He's on the Jags ten years,
his record as the owner forty one and one sixteen.
You know, maybe it might be time for him to
move on as well. I'm not dogging the guy, but
there's been one consistent faction there in Jacksonville for ten years,
and uh, it's you. And if that's all the competitive

(38:29):
you're gonna be, you might want to take a look
in the mirror. I'm sure you a successful man and
a great guy and all those things. But they say
it's not for long, and it's been long and one sixteen.
That means in ten years are averaging a little over
four wins a year? Yeah, and I don't. I don't know, man.
Uh All right back to the NFL tiebreaker. As I

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said earlier in the show, every team has at least
three losses. We haven't had that this late in the year, uh,
since two thousand thirteen. And they're on the one defeated teams.
They're you know, are I think twenty up to two
weeks ago, five teams alive. So you're gonna have a
situation where teams have identical records and the tiebreaker has

(39:13):
to kick in. And if you're heading down the stretch
round of the NFL season, one of the things you're
gonna notice that the schedule makers did this. I think
this was very smart. The majority of the games in
the next few weeks are pairing of divisional opponents, and
that's going to prove critical for teams chances of making
the playoffs. So the NFL tiebreaker system is as follows.

(39:36):
If two teams are tied, the first thing you look
at is they had to head record between the two teams. Yeah,
it actually matters when you if you beat the team
you're up against, but if you split those games if
you're in the same division, divisional record in conference games
is next. After that, it get starts to get very convoluted,
like strength of victory and strength of schedule and needed

(39:57):
you need a whole fay length of attorneys and accounts
Dallas Cowboy truilders to figure this out. So I'm not
gonna boy with it. So it's critically important for the
Cleveland Browns to win at least four the next five games.
I think it's better for the sport of Cleveland is
in the playoffs. Again, they've got games against all three
a f C foes, a f C North foes Cincinnati, Pittsburgh,

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and Baltimore, and the Browns are gonna likely needed to
win all three of those divisional opponents, which would give
them was split head to head with the Ravens and
Steelers while winning they head to head tiebreaker versus the Bengals.
If the Browns went all three divisional games, they'll end
the season with a divisional record of four and two,
and they would take any tiebreaker from all three teams.

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All three games are important to finish the season. First,
they got the Raiders on Monday. So the bottom line
is this Browns fans, don't let your teams lose. Man.
I think it'd be fun to see him in the
playoffs again this year. All right, up next, we're gonna
talk about the Urban Meyer, So I keep it locked
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US based representatives available. Seven discover exceptionally common sense. Speaking
of common sense, it wasn't so common when it came
to urban Meyer and the Jacksonville Jaguars and the owner's shot.
Con pulled the trigger this week and fired urban Meyer
four cause, as we find out, when the Josh Lambeau

(41:46):
Kicker story uh surfaced, which you've all heard by now,
all right, I was fooled. I'm not gonna lie. I know.
I make a lot of predictions, you know, whether it
was Mac Jones or Tom Brady or I've hit a
lot of them the lot. But this one I I
didn't make any predictions. I I hear one guy after

(42:09):
another on the radio say, and I told you I
predicted it would happen October seven. I predicted, okay, wonderful,
good for you. I I didn't see it coming. I
was fooled. I will tell you this. As part of
the reason is I wrote urban Meyer's book, Lessons in Leadership,
and it's just spectacular book. He talks about how leadership
is is trust. Uh, leadership is influence based on the

(42:33):
trust you've earned, and how people can't read your you
know your intentions, but they'll read they'll see your actions
and interpersonal and you're always being looked at, and especially
when when times are rough. I threw his book out,
and I'm not kidding it bothers me I recommended his book.
One of the reasons that was wrong about Urban Meyer.
I thought he'd figured it out. Look, coaching in the

(42:55):
NFL is totally different than coaching in college. Dall you
know that. Right in the NFL, you're a CEO, you're
you're you're overseeing a group of men that grown men
who do this for a living, and they get paid
big money. This is serious business. And you've got an
offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator and they're like head
coaches of the offensive defense, respectively. And your job is

(43:17):
to run the ship. You don't have the control you
have in college and college you can. You control the
school to the team. If you win, you you own it.
You literally are the emperor and king. And in college
you're a coach, you're a mentor, you're a surrogant father.
You're all those things. Urban Meyer has proven, prior to

(43:38):
this debacle in the NFL, which is an embarrassment, proven
to truly have been a program builder. He did it
at Bowling Green, he did Utah, he did it it
obviously Florida, and he did it Ohiose State. Three national championships,
produced a lot of NFL players. He did it his way,
as Frank Sinatra would say, Look when Jimmy Johnson took
over the Cowboys and eighty nine, that was no pick make.

(44:00):
They were one in fifteen. But he got the team
together before and says, guys, there's only one way I
know how to win. Somebody aren't gonna be here because
you just aren't gonna fall in line with the way
I do things. And he cleaned house and he brought
in the guys that would do things his way and
the rest is history. So in the wee hours or
Thursday morning, urban Meyer became the latest NFL coach to

(44:20):
read to receive a pink slip, and people are calling
him incompetent on and off the field. They're lining up
to take shots at the guy because, and it's my understanding,
I've never met urban Meyer. Well, he was fabulous on
the on the Fox TV crew on on Saturday College Football.
He's a brilliant guy. But look, it's my understanding. He

(44:42):
can he can be very condescending, he talks down to people.
He can be rude, and crafts and and all those things.
But he produced results. And if you read his book
for you can't not read his book now and know
that this happened, which flies in the face of what
he writes in his book. The disparity between what he
put in his book and what he did in real
life is incredible that that that the dichotomy is so vast.

(45:08):
I mean, I'm my words are I'm stumbling in my
words because I cannot believe. And I'm not one of
these guys who predicted to be fired. I didn't know.
I thought he I really thought he would figure it out.
He's a smart enough guy. But when you start to
look at the news cycle, it goes back really from
the time he was hired, all the way back to
last February. Right first, he hires the former I was

(45:29):
Strength and Condition to go at you guy by the
name of Chris Doyle, who had been accused of bullying
and allegedly saying racist remarks. If that's out there in
the ether, how do you sell that inside the rock
locker room with a bunch of growing men. You're not
the keen like you word, ohiose state. You haven't proved
anything in that. In the NFL, he signed Tim Tebow
was a tight end. I know, people lost their minds

(45:49):
over that. Look, Tebow won a Heisman Trophy, one to
national championships, herban people do solids for friends. Tebow wasn't
gonna make and people lost their minds. So what Okay,
that wasn't terrible, but again another reason, more risk for
the mill for the people who already hated urban Meyer.
The pile on him, right, But then he violated the

(46:12):
league's policy on contact during offseason practices. He cost himself
on the Jaguars three thousand dollars and fines. You're not
above the law. You know that's something you knew better
and you did it anyway, Then we have this situation,
By the way, how could I forget the big one
staying in Ohio after a loss to Cincinnati, did not

(46:36):
get on the team plane returning home with his team,
which is unheard of. And then he's as he patronages
his own restaurant, and he doesn't have the awareness to
know that people actually have cell phones to record every
movie he makes once he's recognized, and how is that visual?
Then we find out the other day allegedly and this happened,

(47:00):
I guess in August, he allegedly kicked former place kicker
Josh Lambo while he was stretching and walked up to
in pregame, gave a little motivational speech and said, hey,
f efer uh, make your f and kicks dip you
know old rhymes with you know what? And then you
know the final insult. Look, Darryl Bevill, who was a

(47:24):
very nice guy. He was he was quarterback at Wisconsin.
I know that he was the Lions interim coach last year.
He takes over his interim coach. He said, Meyer left
the team facility after practice, never returned, never said goodbye,
left the staff to prepared for Sunday's game without him,
and what they've got the show for it? The Jaguars

(47:44):
are basically two and eleven, so right now, the narrative
as it pertains to Urban Meyers terrible again. Many radio
hosts or breaking their arms, patting themselves on the backs
and I told you this is gonna happen. Well, maybe
you were right, and I just I'm here to tell
you again for the fourteenth time, I was fooled. I
I didn't think it would be a picnic. I didn't

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think it would be a day at the peach. But
I thought the guy was smart enough to figure it
out that the NFL is different, and he would spend
this year evaluating, preparing, implementing his system, and figuring out
who's going to be with his team before you know
when they hope to contend for a Super Bowl someday.
Because he's one everywhere else. And I don't really think
it's fair to compare Blue Holz Khulu. Holtz was thirty

(48:27):
six years old. We went and coach the New York
Jets in nineteen seventy six. Yes, he only lasted thirteen games.
I know the trifect of the three Stooges Lou Holtz,
Bobby Petrino, and Urban Meyer. I get it. They all
last in thirteen games. Holds the situation totally different. He
knew he was overmatched. He went to New York. He
admitted in his book as much. He said, the Lord

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did not create Lou Holtz to be an NFL coach,
and when he got there, he knew it. He did
the right thing. He leaned on Joe Namath a lot,
he leaned on on their people a lot. He just
realized it was not his cup of tea. And uh,
as much as people want to disgrace him for the Jets,
he's admitted Bobby Petrino, who knows what that uncle had.
He left a handwritten note on the wall after week

(49:13):
thirteam with the with the his team didn't have, you know,
the coons. He faced his team and he writes a
hand and written note and tapes in to the wall
before I think a Monday night game if if memory
serves so many years ago. And then he went on
to have some other travails. So his short term particularly clean.
But Urban Meyer seemed to bring this to a new

(49:34):
level in terms of the word embarrassment. All right, And
and Jimmy Johnson has talked about some of the things
where it went wrong. And Jimmy's a good guy. He
he wants to be fair to Urban And I'm sure
there's more of the story we don't know about um.
And you know, I know the whole world is gonna
take credit for they all saw this debacle coming and
the truth of the matter, as though he Urban Meyer

(49:57):
puts shot Con, who seems like a real decent guy,
who's pain Urban you know, I think he had a
six year deal. Uh, he still owed about forty two
million dollars. He put shot Con in a terrible position
where he basically had to fire. And what this does
by admitting a mistake now and cutting it, you know,
cutting it off as it were, he's got a chance

(50:20):
to set things right. And they've talked about bringing an
air p enemy where he Morris, he's on the list.
I think you could see maybe Byron Leftfritch would get
an interview. Jim Calwell, here's a guy, he's the opposite
of Irwan Meyer, and he took the lines of the
playoffs two or three years. You could do a lot
worse with him right. And it didn't help that the
even before the Josh Lambo thing, Jacksonville was simply not competitive.

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When they lost twenty to nothing to the Titans on Sunday,
they rushed for eight yards, they turned the ball over
four times. So you know, in the postgame press conference,
you know, Meyer was asked about reports of him alleged
allegedly getting into the wide receiver Marvin Jones and calling
his assistant coaches losers. He said the reports for garbage.
Was he lying? I don't know, but the fact that

(51:05):
we got all this Michigan surrounding this, this is a
shame because urban Meyer's legacy, he's severely tarnished and it
didn't have to be this way. Coming up, we're gonna
bring in the crew to talk about this because I
think everybody has opinions about this, and for very good reasons,
and I want to get beneath the surface and talk
not just specifics but generalities. And there's this hurt other

(51:27):
future college coaches in their quest to coach in the NFL.
Let's not forget Cliff Kingsbury's doing a fine job in Arizona,
and I think Matt Rule has done a pretty good
job in Caroline, even though the record doesn't bear it out.
And let's not forget Jimmy Johnson did okay and saving
if they had given him his quarterback, he was not
in seven one year, so let's not rule that out.
You can't throw out the baby with the bathwater just
because urban Meyer was condescending but we'll chop that up

(51:51):
among other things with the crew. I'm Bernie Fretta or
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forty two minutes away from the resumption of NFL Week fifteen.
A lot of great games on the slate later today,
but one of the games on the slate at Jacksonville
hosting Houston. A lot of money's coming on Jacksonville. Figuring
with their interim coach, the Jaguars might feel they have
a new lease on life without their former coach, Reuben Meyer,

(52:34):
who was fired and I think in disgrace Thursday. And frankly,
I'm not one of the geniuses that predicted this would
happen this soon. I wasn't sure how this would how
this would pan out over time. All I know is
he'd been a program builder everywhere he'd been. I thought
he was smart enough to read the room and ad
just his style in college, your coach menor surrogand father

(52:58):
all those things. In NFL, youres ceo. You're managing grown
men who make lots of money to do this for
a living. And if you read his book, his book
is brilliant. Now, the fact that I know he wrote
it and what he said there which totally contradicts his
comportment in Jacksonville, I will tell you it bothers me.
All Right, let's bring in the crew get their thoughts

(53:20):
on on Urban Meyer. Let's start with Brian Finley. Brian,
what's your key takeaway here? What is your synopsis? Yeah, Bernie,
just a couple of mentions here. I think for one,
you mentioned the book, and the book to me is
interesting because as someone like himself who's all about wanting
to be a leader and giving off this impression of

(53:42):
being a leader, he has a track record of running
away when things get hard. And we've seen this before,
whether he's done it outright himself and left, or he's
kind of sabotaged himself and it's been forced out the
door like he was in Jacksonville. The other part to
this is the media is a bully. Also, we've heard
reports that Meyer is a bully, and and the media,
as you know, Bernie, clearly made up their minds about

(54:04):
him as to how they want to perceive him in
front of everybody. And I think that whether you like
him or you don't, the media was not unbiased with
their reporting of him, and I think in in general
right now that unbiased media coverage is extinct. The last
thing I'll say is this, and he feels like he
plays the card of do you know who I am?

(54:26):
There's nothing that gets me more irritated than when somebody
says that. But what I mean by that in his
case is that this is somebody who clings to the
past and thinks that that is what's going to help
him in the presence. And what you've pointed out, Bernie,
is that things are completely different from the college level
to the NFL level, and it's his arrogance that maybe
that's what rubbs a lot of people wrong, even the media.

(54:46):
But you know, you think about Steve Jobs when he
hires somebody on you know, when he was at Apple.
I want to hire people, not for me to just
be a dictator and tell them what to do. I
want them to be a collaboration of my thoughts. I
want to hear from them. And I just never felt
like when he was assembling the staff at Jacksonville that
he was open to advice, open to doing things different

(55:08):
from others. And I just think ultimately his pride was
a major source of his doom A right, you bring
up a couple of really good points. He left in Florida.
I believe it was two thousand ten. I believed his
heart issues. I believed his health issues that's been caught
into question. He left Ohio State under some circumstances having
to do with one of his assistant coaches. I don't

(55:31):
know about Bowling Green and Utah. The other thing, too,
is I completely agree that the media as it as
they they've never been nice to urban Meyer, period. And
I would just say this that this seemed like it
was doomed from the beginning in the sense as to
how the media made up their mind as they were

(55:51):
going to catch this with respect to urban Meyer. Uh,
it's not. It's not hard to go back. He just
left the House state three years ago and go back
and look at some of those articles about him and
what went on and some of the things that people
in the media were saying good stuff, Brian Christopher fat
your thoughts in urban Meyer, Well, you mentioned the book.

(56:12):
It's not just the book. He taught classes on leadership
at Ohio State too. Like this was a man who
made leadership his axiom, his his rays on detra to
to to embody it in a way, and it's come
crashing down in a pretty rough way. I think there
are a lot of people in the media who were
rooting for him as much as there were rooting against.
I don't buy that there was only one side, and

(56:34):
I don't like to view the media as a monolith.
I will say this though, when it comes to it, um,
there's a lot of ways to lead. And you see
this with some college coaches who come up be it.
You know, Bobby Petrino is the closest analog to urban
Meyer right now. They both coach the same number of
games the NFL. They both left without telling their assistance

(56:55):
and the coaches they worked with that they were leaving.
UM sometimes something not even their players. Now you can
know what interest Chris, and I'll let you finish. I'll
let you continue. Bobby Petrino is the convenient and I'm
an agreement uh, comparative, he never won anything and urban
of my own one everywhere continue, No, no, I I agree.

(57:16):
It's just it's funny that they both coach in the
same number of games. I think there there's better analogs
to him on his coaching style, I think, and that
that kind of brings up to my main point is
about there's different ways to coach, and obviously, coming from college,
some approaches don't work in the NFL. I I I
find it very fascinating. There was the report from Tom

(57:36):
Pelli Sero that he challenged all of his assistance and
asked them, well, what have you won? What have you
done to win? And you mentioned Darryl Bevil And let's
not forget Darryl Bevil has a Super Bowl ring, so
like you can't. That's not something he can really pull off.
And item I'm not going to say he could only
win in college, where you could pull someone's scholarship at

(57:57):
the drop of the hat or make sure they don't
get playing time if there, if you're there on the
coaches right side. But the point is that in the
NFL you have only one way, and that is you
need to earn the respect from the guys you work
with the guys you hire and the players that you
don't get a choice in. Sometimes you have to earn
that respect, you can't just demand it. And I think
that was a grave miscalculation Erban Myers partner. It's something

(58:19):
he never had to deal with before, and he should
have probably considered that before he started writing books on
and taking and teaching classes on leadership. That that book
was released in I believe January, right after a House
State very convincingly won their national championship over Oregon. One
quick takeaway and something you said, uh in this will

(58:41):
I think be examined later in terms of one of
the things that contributed to his downfall. He had he
assembled the staff that wasn't really his staff. If you
could have brought the exact guys he had from Ohio State,
that might have helped. We're never gonna know. We're probably
splitting hairs, but I questioned his staff and how much

(59:01):
they had his back as well. And I've I've heard
about those alleged statements that Tom Penlaserrel reported on. It
may very well be true that he called his guy's losers.
I think we have found out that it's a bit
you know that his his style as it were, to
be condescending. And hell I played I didn't played football
Plass high school. But that's how coaches used to talk
to us. Actually, But be that as it may, Urban Meyer,

(59:23):
I held the Ohio standard. And now I'm very bothered
that I was duped a little bit. Bo Benson, bring
us home. What's your thoughts on this? Um I everybody
else has kind of covered it. I think at the
end of the day, I know I saw the Jaguars
today don't plan on paying his contract, um, which I

(59:43):
you know, I think that was obviously why they fired
him after the story came out about kick kicker. Yeah,
they were looking for a cause. UM. I do think
the funny thing is with that is if he was
not two and eleven as the head coach of the Jaguars,
they would have kept him. There's no there's no away
they would have fired him or that if he was winning.
But he just it just didn't work out. It doesn't.

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It's not a referendum on his career as a college coach.
It's not a maybe he maybe he takes a year
off and he decides to go back to the NFL
and applies what he learned from this stint. But you know,
it just didn't work out this time. It's not like
the Jaguars were a super talented roster. He he wasn't
taking over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Hair. No, those are
a lot of very objective points, and clearly they didn't

(01:00:28):
have the roster two they shouldn't have been expected to win.
I haven' talked about Jimmy Johnson. He was one in fifteen.
His first year, he set a different tone. He communicated
a little differently, though, and I think people sort of
knew where they stood. Um. As far as the kicking
incident as well, my understanding is that was that took
place in August. Why did it wait till now to

(01:00:51):
come out? I mean that that's a little bit dubious.
Do I think her admired will ever coach in the
NFL game. No, I don't, and I don't know if
he even wants to. But I do think he could
end up in college. Again, Uh, this is America. We're
big on second chances, And again I don't know to
the degree he wants to. What I think would be
cool is if the USFL, which we talked about a

(01:01:11):
few shows ago. They not got their TV contract with NBZ.
We're gonna have Spring football again. This new USFL not
related to the old U s f L. If they
want to make a splash, they had to hire Urban
Meyer and John Gruden. By the way, I'm and I'm
being somewhat facetious, but tell me you wouldn't watch that
one final thing quickly before we go to Bryan family

(01:01:33):
here is is that Urban Meyer. I you know, look,
I think when the history books are written, uh, his
legacy will you know, still be intact in terms of
what he did as a winner. People will forget and
it will it will fade into into the woodwork. But
I will tell you now, I don't think the story
is over. This is what I'm told that they're gonna

(01:01:54):
probably have a settlement, and I think there'll be more
that will come out. I just think there will be
more that will come out in Urban My he's going
to find a way to have his day in court,
as it were, and get trying to get the last
word as he sort of denies some of these accusations.
All right, coming up? Uh. The Great Dick shap Uh
died December twenty one, two thousand one. Tuesday is the

(01:02:16):
twentieth anniversary of his passing. Uh. I have been friends
with his son Jeremy for twenty five years. We got together,
had a conversation the other day. I wanted to reminisce
on his father, because any of the great journalistic shows
you see today are a fore runner from whether some
of the things Dick Shap created. The man ra of
thirty four books. He was the pre eminent journalists of

(01:02:37):
our time. So coming up, we're gonna have a little
tribute to my mentor and friend and the twenty year
anniversary of his passing. That would be Dick Shap. But
first let's go to the man. He always tells us
you only live once, but if you do it right,
once is enough. It's Brian Finley. Yeah. Well, Bernie Jonathan
Taylor did it right on the field in the NFL

(01:02:57):
last night. A hundred seventy yards rushings sixties seven yard
touchdown for him that came late in the ball game
to seal it for the Colts of the Patriots twenty
seven to seventeen. Carson Wins not really doing much five
of twelve through the air fifties seven yards, one touchdown,
and one interception, and the Patriots are now in that
number three spot in the a f C playoff picture,

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and Indianapolis has the top wild card position and they
are fifth overall college football number twenty three. Louisiana flushing
down Marshall to twenty one at the New Orleans Bowl,
the raging Cajuns with twenty unanswered points in that fourth quarter.
Utah State finishes on top against Oregon State four to
thirteen at the Jimmy Kimmel Label That's so FI Stadium.

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Calvin Tyler Jr. One hundred twenty yards rushing and a touchdown.
Matt Henager had three sacks as well for the Aggies.
Western Kentucky polishing off Apple Actual State fifty nine to
thirty eight. Bigley Zappy had six touchdown passes for the
Hilltoppers at the Boca ratone and Bowl. As far as
the NBA, just a couple results to get to hear.

(01:04:04):
The Wizards get the job done against the Jazz one
oh nine to one oh three, Bradley Beal coming in
strong with the season i thirty seven points. The Cleveland
Cavaliers have ripped off six consecutive wins and they take
down an underman Bucks team one nineteen to nine. The
Thunder relying on a Shay Gilgist Alexander last second three

(01:04:26):
at the horn to surprise the Clippers one oh four
to one oh three. The Raptors take advantage of an
under staffed Warriors team won nineteen to one hundred in Toronto.
Golden State did not play Steph Curry because unrest out
other guys as well, including Draymond Green and Andrew Wiggins,
both resting with injuries. The Magic took advantage of a

(01:04:48):
Nets team that doesn't have all their guys one hundred
to ninety three. No Kevin Durant as he's out in
the COVID nineteen protocols. Kean Ellis had twenty points in
town rebounds and then one mentioned from college basketball all
number one. Baylor continues it's winning ways. They preserve intact
their unblemish market ten and oh after traveling up to

(01:05:09):
Eugene and showing off and showing out against Oregan sent
to seventy with Adam Flaggler making five three pointers, had
sixteen points and it was a one time in the
second half, and then right after that the Bears went
on a twelve oh run and coasted. From there, let's
get it back to a man who knows a thing

(01:05:30):
or two about basketball, including un l v wink wink.
It's our guy in Vegas. It's Bertie Fratto, all right,
thanks so much, Brian. There's a reason there's an award
called the Dick Shap Award for out standing Journalism, been
won by people like Jim McKay, Frank to Ford, Bob Costas,
Bob Ryan of the Boston Globe. It's an all star
cast of names, and the recipient doesn't need to be

(01:05:52):
a sports journalist, but they must convey the passion and
insight for stories that Dick Shap did. He was the
pre eminent journalist of a generation. I was fortunate to
work under him, and he was a great friend. Twenty
years Tuesday is the anniversary of his passing. Caught up
with his son, Jeremy Schapp, a great friend of mine.
Since let's give it a listen, alright, So this Tuesday,

(01:06:14):
December one, it marks the twenty anniversary of the passing
of the great Dick Shap, my friend and mentor. I
often said I would not be where I am today
without his mentorship and fellowship, and I want to honor
him tonight. Unfortunately, I'm joined by another friend and great

(01:06:34):
mentor for the last twenty five years, his son, Jeremy
Shap Jeremy, thanks so much for making time. No, of course, Burnie,
thank you for having him. So what's interesting is the
evolution of history since the good man Dick Chap has
passed December twenty one, two thousand one, and I want

(01:06:55):
to just open by saying I learned two things from
him that he his favorite sport was people, and he
didn't necessarily root for the h these favorite teams. He
rooted for the story. And I've always carried that with me.
And to give this some perspective, I want to start
by saying, he passed two months before Tom Brady ever

(01:07:16):
won his first Super Bowl. Jeremy, how would how would
Dick have covered the Tom Brady saga all the way
up and including until now that forty four years old,
he looked better than ever? Well, I think you know
he would be amazed, as we all are, um at
what Tom Brady has accomplished over the last twenty years.

(01:07:37):
It's uh, it's astounding, uh astounding with the Patriots achieve
um winning the six Super Bowls with Belichick and Brady
Brady leaving winning another one. I mean, you know, my
father was as you said, he didn't loot for a
lot of teams, but he made exceptions for the Green
Bay Packers teams because he'd become close to so many

(01:07:59):
of the Packers and the nineteen sixties from the Lombardi
Europe Packers Jury Kramer one of his best friends, co
author of several books. So he loved the Packers, um,
and he was protective of their legacy. In nine sixties
Packers as the greatest dynasty in pro football. They won
five NFL titles in seven seasons. Uh. And of course

(01:08:23):
what was the Patriots one six in twenties and maybe
it was five and nineteen or something like that. So
you know, Uh, he would have watched with interest, and
uh he would have been astounded as we all were. Um,
and continue to beat me by by that dominance. Um.

(01:08:44):
Of course it's different game a lot of ways. Now
it's more challenge, right, and others you could say, uh,
they're different challenges, you know, however you want to look
at it. Um, you know, but but what made that
Packers team specially my father was much more of course,
and then the numbers than those five championships. It was

(01:09:04):
the people, the people he was so close to. An
addition to Jerry, Uh, really, Davis, Paul Morning, Robinson, on
and on and on. Uh. He loved those guests. What
he did with the book Instant Replay, which was written
after the nine seven season when the Packers won their
second championship. And that was the very first conversation I

(01:09:27):
had with Dick Shapp talking about Instant Replay. I could
practically recite the whole book. By the way, I think
Bob Highland stance has gotten a lot better. That's his
inside joke between you and Mad Jeremy Uh. And I
will second the motion that he was very He was
very protective of the Packers because prior to Super Bowl
thirty one between green Bay and New England, coincidentally, I

(01:09:52):
told him I thought that it would win. It's the
only time Dick Schapp was harsh with me, says, I'm
telling you, Bernie, I am not objective about the Green
Bay Packers. You can't say they're gonna lose. And and
by the way, they did win. And uh And he
was right. But yeah, he had a great affinity and
great affection and what that book did was really humanized
the men behind the uniform, certainly the gruff Vince Lombardi

(01:10:13):
and humanized. So that to me was sort of a
forerunner that lead to all the other great things he did.
And one of the other things I want to broach today,
I know Dick was very close to Jim Brown. Of course,
as I've told folks before, your father was a Division
one athlete at goalie on the Cornell soccer team. Once
stopped about seven of Jim Brown shots. Yeah, thank you,

(01:10:34):
I miss spoke. Thank you. I knew that, but I
haven't spoke, and I've I've got that in my book
to the view from the chief seats. And he became, uh,
he became very good friends with Jim Brown and then
obviously Muhammad Ali, and the common theme there was civil
rights and the support of the civil rights movement. Again,
the great Dick Shaft passed two and a half years
before Lebron James graduated from high school. And how would

(01:10:56):
Dick today talk about on a journalistic the athletes more
willingness to be embraced, to embrace civil rights movements. Well,
I think he's impressed by it. You know, as you said,
you know, he covered sports when the intersection of sports
and civil rights in the civil rights movements in the
nineteen sixties, and he covered the rise of the African

(01:11:19):
American athlete. UM. You know, so much of his career
and so much of his life centered around the story
of Muhammad Ali, whom he loved and he loved to cover.
He loved to be around. UM. He loved telling Ali stories.
And they went back to before the nineteen sixty Olympics

(01:11:42):
in Rome, when Ali was in eighteen year old coming
to New York on his way to Rome for those games.
And they became friends at that point. My dad was
twenty five, as I said, Ali was eighteen. He done
Jim Brown growing up on Long Island. Uh. They went

(01:12:02):
to UH. They grew up in town, just a few
miles apart from each other, Jim round in the asset.
My father and preport. They had known each other, as
he said, UH in college. And so, you know, I
think what we've seen the last few years, the reemergence
of the athlete as activists, as as someone willing to

(01:12:24):
to speak his or her mind about things beyond the
world of sports, is something that he would celebrate. One
of the things. We're speaking with Jeremy Schapp, Award winning
Emmy Award, Wing bestselling author, son of Dick Schapp, who
I believe was the pre eminent journalist of our time. Uh.
He's a big reason why I am where I am today.

(01:12:44):
I was mentored, learned and was friends with Dick Shapp
and along the way saying with Jeremy, and I can't
see how much I appreciate that if Dick were still alive, Jeremy, Uh,
he'd be eighty seven years old. The Dick Shapp I knew,
believed he would actually still be working today. I believe that.
Am I wrong? Oh? You're not wrong, Bernie. No, I

(01:13:07):
can't imagine anybody who knew my dad he would in
some form, if he were capable of it, Uh, still
be working. He would work until you know, the day
he no longer was capable of it, because he didn't
think of it as work in the way that most
people think of work is work. He he loved what

(01:13:29):
he did so much, and of course there were times
like anybody else, even when you love what you do,
where you know you're overwhelmed because you can take on
so many projects and there are pressures and there's deadlines
and all those things, right, Um, But he was so grateful,
um for the life that he was able to live,

(01:13:50):
the career that he was able, um to build um
for the supportive people who were admirers of his and
he just relished with so much. I mean, he would
do things, Bernie. So he died at sixty seven, and
you know that's typically a time in life when people
are slowing down, and and he wasn't interested in that,

(01:14:13):
you know. I mean, he wasn't maybe um going a
million miles per hour as he had his sporties and
the sixties. But he would do things like host the
overnight news on ABC. Why. I don't know. Others just
enjoyed doing it. You go to work ato in the
morning and he third delight or midnight and he there's

(01:14:34):
like six in the morning hosting the overnight news. Um.
You know, this is a guy who's you know, sixty
six years old at this point, and he's flying around
the country. He's going here and he's going there, and
he's falling asleep in the control room when they're doing
the sports reporters all that stuff. Um. But that's how
he'd always lived his life. And there were always um headlines, pressures, projects,

(01:14:59):
um and and he loved it and and he loved
what he got to do. I was watching Just Just Say, Bernie,
I was going back. I hadn't watched it in a
long time. The documentary that they made about my father
and ESPN which aired just before he died, and Flashing
Before My Eyes, which is a beautiful film. Yeah, it's

(01:15:22):
a beautiful film. And um, the first segment, um, you know,
he talks about how privileged he felt to do the
things that he did and how his life seemed to
him like a fantasy almost every day. He loved nobody.
Nobody was more of a workaholic. Nobody was more passionate
about what they did. Nobody got a bigger kick out

(01:15:44):
of what they did in him. So yeah, he I
don't know if he'd be uh in studio every Sunday,
but he'd be writing books, he'd be doing something, he'd
be out there. There's no doubt in my mind. And
there are guys from his generation was still doing it, right.
I mean, look at Jerry Eisenberg, right, that's right, he

(01:16:04):
lives here in Vegas now. Yeah, Brent Musburgers three Mustburger
bobble of years my dad's age. Yeah, you know so, uh,
I think you're right. Well, I remember the first time
we actually met face to face, he recovering the Cowboys
at Valley Ranch in Dallas. That was back in We

(01:16:25):
had dinner, and you told me one of the earliest
memories was waking up at five in the morning and
hearing the typewriter keys from your dad's office chopping away.
He was already up at five am writing away. And
what's interesting is that. And one of the things you know,
here's one of my final takeaways is is that Dick
at his heart was a writer. So when the TV

(01:16:47):
and media thing was strussed upon him, he was fine
clicking along as a writer, but he was able to
translate his journalistic proclivities to TV. One final story, I
would have loved to have heard how Dick shap would
have covered his the Chicago Cubs World Series quote cheating.
I just believe he would have taken a very interesting, unique,
almost idiosyncratic position on this, and I would be curious

(01:17:11):
to know how you think he would have He would
have covered it on the Cubs putting the world serious. Yes,
And then what we found out afterward with the cheating. Um,
I'm sorry, refreshed my memory, Bertie about wait a minute,
I screwed this whole thing up, I meant the astros.
I am so sorry. First, you know, I haven't been drinking. Jeremy. First,

(01:17:36):
I call him a soccer player, and I know he's
a lacrosse player. Now I'm talking about the astros. I
was like, I missed the cub story. Yeah, so did
I the story? I mean, yes, you know it's an
interesting one because I mean I think he would have
been a palmed it. At the same time, not surprised

(01:17:59):
because yet enough historical perspective. Yes, so, how pervasive cheating
has been in sports at different times over the century.
In fact, I think he writes in his History is
the Olympics. He wrote a history of the Olympics when
he was in his All right, So the Jeremy Shap

(01:18:19):
interview will continue at about to twenty. We've got just
a few minutes left. Got a little bit of a
time crunch here, so we're gonna get back to that
just a little bit later. Coming up. You know him,
you love me, you can't live without him. It's time
for Macing on Sports with Mackenzie Rivers. I'm Bernie Fradower
come to you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

(01:18:40):
Radio Studios. Don't go away. You're listening to Fox Sports
Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. We're back on Fox Sports Radio.
Fox Sports Sunday on Bernie Freddo Company Live the Fox
Sports Radio Studios. It's that time. You know him, You
love Micadie without him macing on Sports with Mackenzie Rivers
and McKenzie. If I read you correctly, you've got some

(01:19:00):
thoughts on tonight's Colts game. What a barn burner we
had in Indianapolis. If I would have told you this stat,
if I would have told it myself this stat two
weeks ago, I wouldn't believe it. But the winning team
in the two biggest A f C games so far
this season, the last two Patriots games, the winning team
has averaged three point five completions per game. As a contrarian,

(01:19:24):
as a lover of the run game, I gotta say
that put a big smile on my face. All right,
fair enough, there's gotta be an angle in here summer, McKenzie.
Let us have it, buddy, Will you talk? You opened
the show talking about analytics and what what do we
determine is the most important aspect of each play yards

(01:19:45):
per game, points per play. Well, you talk to any
offensive lineman, they'll tell you that there is a reward
in running forward and not going backwards. And that's what
the Colts were able to do. But putting a betting
angle on it, Jonathan Taylor's huge night, a hundred seventy
yards on the ground, eleventh straight game with the rushing
t d it is proof positive to physic's point that

(01:20:08):
Tom Brady will win the m v P because if
you look at Taylor's huge night, did nothing to the
m v P. Odds ticked him up five percent. He
was twenty five to one before the game. Now he's
twenty to one. Because this is a quarterback award NFL
m v P. Eight years in a row, it's gone
to a signal caller thirteen out of the last fourteen.
Taylor is amazing. Maybe Offensive Player of the Year, they'll

(01:20:30):
give it to him, but he's not the m v
P because he doesn't play quarterback. That's an excellent employment
candy by the spirit of the law. Depending on how
far Indian apples schools. I think Jonathan Taylor is a worthy, Kennedy.
The problem is if you take Brady off the Tampa
Bay Box, there might be seven and nine. You got
the last word. Jonathan Taylor should be the m v P,

(01:20:52):
but he won't because Tom Brady is really, really, as
Charlie Charles Barkley once said, he's a pretty man, and
he gets all the posters and he gets the MVP award.
That's the way it works. But he wins, pal he wins.
He's my favorite athlete. He's awesome. He wins eighty percent
of his games for twenty years. The fact that people
haven't recognized him as what he was the best is amazing. Uh, Mackenzie,

(01:21:14):
you'll be back in an hour your nineteen and eight
in your prop beds. Folks. You don't want to miss
this good stuff. And I would just say this, Mackenzie,
I would be fine if Jonathan Taylor won the award
when he broke off that run to seal the game.
Those are the stuff that legends are made of. I
love Jonathan Taylor. He's a terrific interview two. If you've
ever heard him talk, he's great. Coming up your favorite segment,

(01:21:34):
What kind of brand new fool are you? You don't
want to miss it. This is Bernie Frattle, Fox Sports Sunday,
Fox Sports Radio. Keep it locked. The Fox Sports Sunday
train rules right on, two down, one to go. Seven
hours and fifty nine minutes away from the resumption of
NFL Week fifteen. Some big games, but we've got some
more important business to get to. By the way, I

(01:21:57):
am Bernie Frattle, come to you alive from the last guess.
Fox Sports Radio Studios will take up to three and
Pacific six am Eastern. But first we've got to get
to the dance sensation that is sweeping the nation. You
know it, and you are responding to it. We call
it affectionately. What kind of brand new fool are you?

(01:22:24):
What kind of brand new fool are you? You know,
every day in the world, and certainly right here in
these United States, somebody does something that makes you scratch
your head and makes your teeth itch and you it
leaves you saying, what kind of brand new fool are you?
In this week, it takes us to Wilmington, Delaware, where
a gentleman by the name of McRoberts, yes McRoberts, not

(01:22:45):
gonna give his last name, walked into a wells Fargo
bank and handed the teller a note. He said, this
is a stick up. I'm robbing your bank. The teller
fully cooperated, and mcrobber asked for the princely sum of
wait for it, a hundred and fifty dollars. He takes

(01:23:07):
his hundred and fifty dollars, proceeds to walk out the
front door and deposited in the A T M machine
at Wells Fargo, where he also happened to be a
Wells Fargo customer. The cops caught him a couple of
blocks away. He didn't put up a fight. He merely
told the policeman that his brain was being controlled by
some sort of alien and that's why he did it.

(01:23:29):
All I gotta say, never rob a bank, Never rob
a bank for fifty dollars, and don't be like McRoberts.
All I gotta say mc roberts, with all due respect.
What kind of brand new fool are you? Christ Perfette?
All right, Bernie, we're taking you to the world of boxing.
That's right. We had boxing events last night, including uh

(01:23:51):
former NFL running back Frank Gore. I don't know if
he's former, he might still be bought running anyway though,
But it was the main event. There was Tyron Woodley
against Jake Paul. Now, Jake Paul has made a very
interesting career for himself, him and his brother Logan moving
over to celebrity boxing from the world of YouTube. And
Jake Paul has some explosive power, no denying that, but

(01:24:12):
he's uh put together an interesting career fighting basically tomato
cans and mixed martial arts artists, including Tyron Woodley, former
UFC welterweight champion. Now again, Woodley is an mm A fighter,
He's not a boxer, but either way, Logan, excuse me.
Jake Paul won by six round knockout. And it looks

(01:24:33):
pretty good it, I mean, good explosive power. But on
the replay, I've got a quibble with Tyrone Woodley's form. Now,
I'm no boxer myself. I've been in a lot of fights,
but if you watch the replay you can see Tyron
Woodley decides to drop his guard right before the knockout
punch of Jake Paul comes in. Now again, I was

(01:24:56):
never trained as much as a boxer. I did some
amateur fighting quite a bit, but I know not to
drop my guard right as I am seeing the punch
coming straight in. What kind of fool are you dropping
your guard at that point? Well, you are right, Chris,
what kind of fool are you? I am a trained boxer.
I still trained to this day. He got tired of
my friend when you get tired of the arms dropped
And you are right, he's an m M a fighter.

(01:25:17):
But uh, but but he he was considered one of
the better strikers in the UFC. But he's still not
a trained boxer. Fair enough, And you are right, Chris,
you can't be a fool and drop your hands. And
the number one ruling boxing protect yourself at all times.
Good stuff, Chris, All right. Brian Familey, Yes, Bernie, we
know human error and officiating. It runs hand in hand

(01:25:38):
and and sometimes we expected part of a game, even
in football. But sometimes it goes to an extent, an
extreme where it becomes unacceptable. And that was the case
in this curable the one of the college football ball
games here and it took place on Saturday between Northern
Illinois and Coastal Carolina. So Northern Illinois was down by

(01:26:01):
six late fourth quarter. Here they come into the red zone.
They got a shot here to try and win this
ball game. And so they convert convert a fourth and
one play inside the five. It's a four yard pass
and the official on the sideline first signals for the
clock to stop, then directly after says, actually keep running

(01:26:25):
the clock. Now, mind you, there's like under ten seconds
to go here and Northern Illinois out of time outs
and they're playing Coastal Carolina, and so they did pick
up the first down. So everybody gets set right right
around like the two yard line here. There's about two
seconds on the clock, and there's the judge in the middle,

(01:26:46):
the center judge, who is placing the ball down for
Northern Illinois to get that last playoff, except he stays
hovered over the ball, and then the clock keeps moving,
and then when he gets off the ball and says, okay,
you can hike it, the clock runs out. So Northern
Northern Illinois got absolutely you know, scammed here at the end,

(01:27:10):
or they should have had a last second shot. The
commissioner of of that conference has reached out. It was
a disaster, but the center judge made a mistake, and
the officiating crew of that bull game a total clown
show and a fool, alright, Brian. Unfortunately, in this day
and age, refs have had their share of making fools themselves,

(01:27:32):
all right, bull Bens in Europe, alright. So earlier today,
the Vikings released starting cornerback Pashad Bryland after he UH
started an argument with his coaches in the meeting room
that carried out onto the practice field when he was
told to leave the starting lineup, where he went back
into the locker room, changed out of his cleats, UH

(01:27:53):
came back out on the field and started yelling at
his teammates some more. I saw he even yelled at
like Dalvin Cook and other players. Um, they got heated
an enough to where the GM had to step in
and break everybody up, and UH called him into his
office and wound up cutting him. Um. The funny part
to me is Bashad Brelan going out on Twitter afterwards
and UH retweeting the tweet from the Vikings official account

(01:28:14):
announcing that he had been waived by the Minnesota Vikings.
So I don't know if that's so much a fool
as it is a cool move, but definitely interesting to
get yourself fired for arguing with your coaches. I'm actually
glad you mentioned it. Tonight because I so Brian got
released bo and he had a big game last week.
He had like a couple of picks and a fumble
recovery or something. I'm like, what the hell happened? I

(01:28:37):
believe he was there starting, uh, starting cornerback. So no,
he's interesting. No on the Vikings need him. Wow, interesting
move by them. No truth to the rumor that Burchard,
Brelan and Urban Me are going to get together this
week and have a few beers and watch games. Anyway,
all right, that is another weekly edition of What kind
of brand New Fool You? And of course we segue

(01:28:59):
right into America's second favorite, as we effectually call what
My Name? All right? Last week, give credit to Brian Finley.
He went three and oh that's rare, so I had
to up the anny a little bit. All right, here
we go on this day in two thousand five. The
Colts were thirteen to know, but my team came in

(01:29:19):
and we beat them to break up their undefeated seats.
And thanks to my any three yard touchdown run as
a member of the Chargers, Chris Perfett, What my Name? Um?
Oh god, uh, I'm out of all right? All right,

(01:29:39):
no problem let's go to Brian Finley. What my name,
Eric Parker? Well, it's not a bad not a bad guess,
it's not Eric Parker. Alright, so bold, we've got a situation.
On this day two thousand five, the Colts were thirty
to know, but my Chargers came into town beat him
thanks to my eighty three yard touchdown run. What my
name is it? Michael Turner? Whoa bo? Give that man,

(01:30:05):
petty cash. You guys are getting good at this game. Man.
All right, here's another one. On this day at two
thousand ten, the Eagles managed to score twenty eight fourth
quarter points actually in the last eight minutes to beat
the New York Giants and what the game later became
called the Miracle at the meadow Lands, and part thanks

(01:30:28):
to my end of the game sixty five yard punt return.
Chris Perfett. What my name? Uh? Shawn Jackson? Whoa boy?
All right? The judges wanted a lot, but I just can't. Chris.
You are a perfectionist. You'll see why in a minute.

(01:30:51):
All right. On this day at two thousand and five,
the Colts check that. That was my last question? What
kind of brand new fool am I don't even know
my own game. On this day, the Eagles score twenty
points in the last eight minutes. I had sixty five
yard point return. What my name? Brian Familey, Sean Jacksons,
there we go. We got it. Chris I apology and

(01:31:17):
I know, I know that's what you meant, but you know,
But all right, so Bull's got one, Brian's got one.
We're going for six in a row here, all right,
let's let's have one more on this day in twenty
uh Actually this was way back in the first three
quarters of an NBA game. I actually outscored the Dallas

(01:31:39):
Mavericks by myself sixty two to sixty one. Christoper Fett,
What my name? I am a blank tonight, Bernie I,
I have no names in my head. I'm sorry all
this this game is not for the faint of heart.
All right, let's try. I'll tell you what, okay, On
this day, the first three quarters, I personally outscored the

(01:32:02):
Dallas Mavericks by myself sixty one. Bryan Family, what my name?
Tracy McGrady, good guests, but not him. He had a
big night one night like that. All Right, we're down
to our last guy, Bob Benson, on this d in
the first three quarters of an NBA game, I I
myself on scored the Dallas Mavericks by myself that Department

(01:32:24):
of redundancy Department sixty one Bow Benson? What my name
Kobe Bryant. Oh, you guys, nicely done. So the last
six questions in a row. You've got him right. You
guys are off and running. All right, excellent job. Guys.
Coming up, we're gonna finish the remainder of the Jeremy
Chap interview, and I want to talk to you and

(01:32:45):
tell you about a coach in college football under the
radar that got fired also last week, and he made
a real name for himself in the first couple of
weeks of the season. When I share it with you,
you're going to remember why real credit card questions require
real people, someone who understand your issues and works to

(01:33:05):
resolve them with you. That's why I discover offers hopeful
US based representatives available seven discover exceptionally common sense. I'm
Bernie Fratto, where Comedy Alive from the Las Vegas Fox
Sports Radio Studios. Don't go away. You're listening to Fox
Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on
Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. I'm Bernie Fratto coming

(01:33:27):
to your live for the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio
studios and about twelve minutes here will be joined by
Chris Profets. Update in the world of soccer, and this
one is not pleasant, but it's prevalent and it's something
you're gonna want to hear about because it's impactful. But
first I want to resume the final four minutes of

(01:33:48):
the interview with Jeremy Schapp. We were giving tribute to
his father, Dick Chap Tuesday, December twenty one marks the
twentieth anniversary of his death. There's an award named after
him for a read and he was my mentor friend.
That would not be here where I am today without
Dick Chaff and for that matter, Jeremy as well. Let's
give it a listen. Whenis early thirties and his great

(01:34:10):
book that I grew up, you know, uh, reading over
and over and over again. And I think he describes
the first race in Olympics history as a sixth race
back in you know, ancient ancients Greece um. And he
had you know, he had kind of I guess right away.

(01:34:31):
But it's a soft spot for the kind of grifters
in sports. I know that he always loved talks about
Boris on a Shank Show, for instance, the as I
do the modern fantaclee from the Soviet Union who's caught
cheating at the night Sees Montreal and sent home in disgrace.
He won the silver medal in seventy two in Munich

(01:34:55):
and uh, you know all the sub level also amused
at another level too, because uh you know, it's it's
it's always been part of the game, right he he
and I talked about Rosie Reise as well, fair advantage,
Rosie Rue. You know there's uh nothing, what is it?

(01:35:16):
Is it acclesiastes, Bernie, Alas there is nothing new under
the sun, just everything true. I think it's Ecclesiastes too, right,
the last nothing new under the Sun. I I believe you.
I am googling it right now. I'm off the rails,
last nothing new under the Sun. I want to get

(01:35:39):
this right, Bernie. It is it is ecclesiastic that nicely done.
I'll take Bible verses for fifty Alex excellent, excellent work
there before I let you run and we could go
all day. I just can't get enough of this. One
of the things I miss most is when there's ever
an event I'd called Dick up and I still remember

(01:35:59):
his phone number. Uh, and what do you think about this?
And after the whole O J saga, he had the
most profound thing, he says, Bernie, I I whatever happened here,
he says, I'm knowing o J. He once got on
a plane flew five hours, did be a favor that
took an hour? Flew back five hours? Whatever happened here?
The things that will always surprised me most is it
appears to have been over a woman and that and

(01:36:21):
that was just profound that we the way that came
through the phone. You've got the last word. We're with
Jeremy Schapp, espn Emmy Award winner, best selling author, the
son of Dick Schapp, the pre eminent journalist of our time.
I will always believe that all of the shows you
see on TV of journalistic uh you know, genre as
it were, were the forerunner of for instance, shows like

(01:36:44):
the Original Sports Reporters hosted by Dick Chapp. Be that
as it may, Jeremy, You've got the last word. Say
anything you want about your father and final tribute as
we celebrate twenty years since the passing A Dick shap
Well Bertie. I'm very grateful to you four kids, and
you need to celebrate his legacy, um and to um

(01:37:04):
give him credit, although it is largely undeserved. I'm sure
he would say so many of the great things you
do in the media. He'd be so impressed with the
way you have built your career and and um, the
way you do it redounds to his credit, uh, to
his honor. That's right away putting it and probably using

(01:37:26):
the words incorrectly. But I appreciate this opportunity and I
miss him. I know you do too. I wish we'd
had more time with him, and you're right, it would
have been great to see how he would have responded
to so many of the big things that we've all
uh seen happen over the last couple of decades. Jeremy,

(01:37:49):
thanks so much. I appreciate you making time. I know
how busy you are, and I know you're still over
the world traveler and have multiple assignments. Keep up the
great work as you carry on the shop legacy. You're
a BANDI thank you. That is Jeremy Schapp ESPN, you
see him all the time on TV. You've read his books,
He's won Emmy Awards, He's the best sound of author.

(01:38:09):
He is the son of the late great Dick Shaft.
Google him. There are awards named after him, and there
are a reason. Thanks everybody, And of course, the Dick
Shap Award for Outstanding Journalism was established in twenty or
two of the year after his passing and in honors
his memory. He was America's pre eminent sports writer. He'd

(01:38:29):
written thirty five books. It's given out annually to a
journalist in any medium. Okay, you don't have to necessarily
be a sports journalist that best exemplifies the principles and
talents of Dick Shap. During the past year and some
big time names have won this award, from Bob Ryan
of the Boston Globe to Dave Anderson of the New
York Times, Bob Costas, Frank Deforge, Jim McKay, Mit Joldman, Detroit,

(01:38:53):
Dave kindred On and on. It's an all star cast.
And I would say the biggest takeaway from me is
that two things I learned from Dick Shapp is a
his favorite sport was people. My favorite sport has become
people because behind every great sporting event in the uh
you know the names that you hear, is a human being.

(01:39:14):
And that's the essence of my book The View from
the Cheap Seats. We talked about Urban Meyer earlier. One
of the stories in my book The View from the
Cheap Seats has to do with a lesson in humility
for the great Don Shula, who was vacationally with his
family in northern Maine one summer, his wife and uh

(01:39:34):
five kids, and they had they had gone to a
movie theater. And what's interesting, actually six kids, I believe
they got to a movie theater and Don Shula walked
in and they wanted to, you know, taking in a
movie in the summer, a little little summer mattinee. And
the minute they walked into the theater, they lived down

(01:39:55):
in front, and there were only two people in the
entire theater. But the minute the La Klan entered the theater,
the two people stood up and started clapping, and Don
Shula's wife said, well look at that, Don. No matter
where you are, you're famous. Everybody loves you. They must
be Dolphins fans. And the guy says, lady, we have
no idea, who the hell your husband is? All we

(01:40:16):
know is this movie. Theater won't start the movie until
there's at least ten people in attendance. There's your Don
Shula story. There's more like that in my book, The
View from the Chief Seats. And again it was a
it was a lesson in humility. We talked about Urban
Meyer an hour ago, and he's learning some lessons in
humility right now. And I'm still bothered by the fact

(01:40:36):
that he wrote this amazingly good book about lessons in leadership.
And the bottom line is he didn't live up to
him and I threw the book in the trash, all right.
I talked about this a minute ago. There was another coach,
a college coach, who was fired recently for an entirely
different reason. And as I tell this story, you will

(01:40:58):
remember what I'm getting at. The gentleman's name is Kevin Kelly,
and he had an approach. And this sort of is
an offshoot of what I talked about in the first
hour during Straight out of Vegas. And you know, breaking
down in deconstructing analytics, are they are they an inflexible anchor?
Or they are guideline Because you can't just keep loading

(01:41:21):
the horse. Never mind the horses blind. Don't tell me
about how smart the Chargers coach was Thursday night. I'm
not second guessing him, but sure, great success, but the
patient died. The surgery was a success, but the patient die.
You've got to look at this as a as a
guideline based on the EBB and flow of the game,
based on matchups. Bill Parcels said it less. Sure, you

(01:41:43):
go for fourth at one, but what if Reggie Whites
on the other side and you're not gonna win that matchup.
You've got to think about these things. So this coach,
Kevin Kelly, who coached the Presbyterian. He was known for
his approach for never punting and opting for on side
kicks period. Uh. He got a lot of run in
September because his in his first game as a coach

(01:42:06):
Presbyterian and their quarterback Ron Helfley Ran Helfley, he was
a transfer from Michigan. He was like the sixth string
quarterback in Michigan. He said an FCS record for ten
touchdown passes in three blowout of St. Andrew's University. Kelly
also won his second game, sixty three over the University
of Fort Lauderdale, but then the team proceeded to lose

(01:42:29):
the next nine games of the season. Now, this guy
was a very successful high school coach, and it's been
reported actually that he decided to leave Presbyterian College to
pursue other football interests of his own volition. He wasn't fired,
but I'm not sure though, But and fair enough, if
he wasn't fired, maybe he left on his own. But
he said he was proud that they were number one

(01:42:50):
in the country and passing a number three in total
offense at a school without scholarships, but they were still
two and nine. Now, he never punted, and I mean
never punted. They could be it's my understanding, you know something,
Correct me if I'm wrong. They could be fourth and
thirty from their own eight and they weren't going to plunt.
And it worked in high school because he had better athletes,
but it didn't work in college. And in the the

(01:43:12):
a d at Presbyterian and gentleman by the name of
Ronald Kunto said that Kelly had informed the administration he
was stepping down for personal reasons and Presbyterians actually engaging
in a national search. Uh, don't you know they're gonna
use a national search for them to see if they
can find a strong candidate pool, and he respected the
coaches decision to step down. The truth of the matter,

(01:43:35):
it didn't work. Look, Kelly had spent the last eight
seen seasons as head coach of Pulaski Academy and Little Rock,
and he was the team's uh fourth coach since two
thousand seven when the Presbyterian became number one. Here's the
bottom line. I think he figured out, even himself, a
guy who is a disciple of never punting and only

(01:43:56):
kicking on sidekicks and trying to reinvent a game that's
been played for eighty years when other smart and more
successful man took a slightly different approach. He found out
that this all or nothing approach, as it were, wasn't
necessarily the most intelligent thing. I'm not calling him out
as much as I'm really sort of calling attention to

(01:44:17):
this whole analytics argument again, and that is, you'll hear
me say it. You'll hear me say it again. Analytics
are important, but they should not be an inflexible anchor.
There should be a guideline. They can only tell you
what you did yesterday. They can't which they can't tell
you what you're going to do tomorrow. Alright, coming up,
we've got Christopher FET's soccer report, good one this week.

(01:44:39):
You want to hear it. But first let's go to
the man. He can tell you what's gonna happen tomorrow
because he could read the future. Is Bryan friendly with
the latest? Thank you Bernie and the analytics and saying
that you need to hand the ball off to Jonathan Taylor,
the Colts running back ended up being a good idea,
as Taylor and the Colts last night Saturday in the
NFL had a seven to set eventine win over the Patriots. Taylor,

(01:45:02):
for him, won seventy on the ground is sixty seven
yard touchdown as well, which salted away the victory for Indianapolis,
who improves with that win to eight and six and
they are number five in the seating as far as
the playoff picture out in the a f C and
the Patriots uh dropped to number three in that as well.

(01:45:23):
College football number twenty three Louisiana polishes off Marshal thirty
twenty one at the New Orleans Bowl. The Rasian Cajuns
scored twenty unanswered points in the fourth quarter where they
were able to take advantage Utah State. Despite going down early,
they come back and beat Oregon State to thirteen at
the l A Bowl the Jimmy Kimmel l A Bowl,

(01:45:46):
and Matt Henninger had three sacks for the Aggies, who
finished their season eleven and three. Of course, they won
the Mountain West title Western Kentucky all over apple Atchian
State fifty nine to thirty eight at the book A
ra Ton Bull and Hilltoppers quarterback Bailey Zappy was slinging
it all over the place six touchdowns for him. In

(01:46:08):
the NBA, Bradley Beale conjuring up thirty seven points that's
a season high as his Wizards best the Jazz one
oh nine to one oh three. The Cavs keep their
wedding streak in Tech it's now six straight after they
take down their opponent in the Bucks one nineteen to nine.
The thunder squeaked past the Clippers one of four one

(01:46:29):
oh three Things to Thunders. Shay giljis Alexander hitting a
three ball at the end of the fourth quarter, right
before the horn, and so he sticks it to his
former employer. Of course, he used to be in l
A Clipper. The Raptors get the job done against the
Warriors one nineteen to one hundred. But keep in mind
there was no step Curry. He did not travel to

(01:46:50):
Toronto because he wanted to rest and get his body right.
The Magic were victorious against the Nets one ninety three.
No Kevin Durant in this game because of the COVID
rule there and Kean Ellis had twenty points in ten
rebounds for Orlando, who picks up their six one of
the season. Yes, they are six and twenty five. Number

(01:47:12):
one Baylor in college basketball is now ten and oh
as they keep themselves with an unblemished mark twenty excuse me.
Seventy eight to seventy was their final score on the
road in Eugene against Oregon on Saturday. And number six
Alabama got the job done against Jacksonville State sixty five
to fifty nine. And number seven Stephen F. Austin excuse me,

(01:47:34):
Number seven Kansas one over Stephen F. Austin eight to
seventy two. The Jayhawks are nine and one on the season.
Remy Martin hit it big three at the end of
that ball game to help KU come out on top
of that. Let's get it back to Bernie Freddo in
Las Vegas. All right, thanks Brian. At this time every

(01:47:54):
week Chris po Fett files a report uh in the
world of soccer, and there's always news, not just and
the U S Shores, but even the Premier League is
dealing with this subject matter that Franklin, most of us
are really getting terried of, Chris, take it away. We
can get tired of it all we want, but it's
kind of part of our reality. And yes, so this
weekend's scene, I believe we are now up to six

(01:48:16):
matches in the Premier League canceled or postponed because of
COVID night positive COVID nineteen tests. The Manchester United, Southampton
Watford against Crystal Palace, to west Ham United, um Aston
Villa and against Burnley I think was the last one
to call off. So we have three games for Sunday,
but the Saturday slate was pretty much threadbare. And now

(01:48:39):
we're hitting talk of from clubs in the league and
owners who are taking a proactive approach and believe that
the best way to probably combat the omicron the spread
of the omicron variant is probably to see a complete
shutdown of the league for the until January of we
probably resume in the third round of the f A

(01:49:01):
Cup and teams at this point are about at the
halfway point in the schedules. Now for right now, that's
not the plan yet. It is talk among many owners
who have to decide this together, but right now plans
remain in place for matches on the and most importantly

(01:49:21):
that would be Boxing Day. In in the UK. Boxing
Day is a very important holiday, especially in the term
of sport over there, especially in the term of soccer
over there. It's very much so Boxing Day, and soccer
is very much like what we would expect of college
football on New Year's Day, or the NBA on Christmas
or the NFL on Thanksgiving. It's a holiday that is

(01:49:43):
very much tied to that sport. So losing that would
be kind of a problem for for the Premier League,
but they also believe that, you know, if they can
just shut down for a few weeks resume after the
new year, that might be for the best. Now, the
problem though, is coming We've talked about this before Burne.
We're starting to bump up against several international UH competitions

(01:50:05):
which there's already been contention between clubs and national teams,
especially in Africa, as we look at several major players
going to who want to go play for Egypt or
Ghana in the Africa Cup of Nations, including Mohammed Sala
who right now has fifteen goals this season. That's more
than several clubs in the Premier League's combined. So we're

(01:50:28):
we're kind of on a precipice here. They are. However,
I think they're not trying. They're they're not doing this
halfhearted thing where they're letting some games go through with this.
This plan to shut down for a while will be
fairly imprescedent, and considering you'd want to come back after
a few weeks mr big holiday, But the hope is
that you'll get some of these positives out of the

(01:50:48):
way and be able to resume in the new year.
I would just say this, Uh, you're right, we can
be tired of it. It's it's here to stay. I've
been saying it since the beginning. Eventually, we'll have to
find a way to co exist with COVID. I'm not
for anymore shutdowns or lockdowns. They didn't work end the story.
We've got to figure out a way to co exist
with this and that would be a shame. Now let

(01:51:10):
me ask you, Chris. You mentioned Chris here that they're
the Premier League is talking about a shutdown to the
end of one calendar. Well, hell, that's only fourteen more
days or something along those lines. What today is December? Okay,
so two weeks from today is New Year's Day? So
how many games did they miss in those two weeks

(01:51:30):
and could they be made up in early two Is
that possible? I think they'd be about that's what we're
looking what we're looking at about two weekends there. So yeah,
next weekend is next Saturday, Christmas Day to each from
today's New Years. So if they're just shutting down for
the calendar, that's not really that long. No, No, it
would be about Yeah, that would be about because everyone

(01:51:51):
plays in these kind of windows of Friday, Saturday, Sunday
Monday usually kind of. I mean, the Premier League follows
kind of the NFL. It is, you play one one
Premier League game a week and you and you know,
there's maybe some FA Cups in between or you know,
Champions League in between, but you have it's a once

(01:52:11):
a week sports So yeah, you're probably missing only two
or three games, and again we're at the halfway point
on the season. I think some guys would be more
than comfortable taking a few weeks just to recover, recuperate
and get ready for the second half, especially with the
race at the top of the table. It just feels
like a fools are going to do this again. What
are you gonna come back in January and say, Okay,

(01:52:33):
we're all said it's gone again now. I I just
but look, it's an interesting year coming up on twenty
two because we've got the World Cup and much like
the NHL with the Olympics, I'm sure you'll be sharing
with this some of the travails with you've talked about
in earlier reports and players trying to balance the two.
Where's your loyalty with your premier club team or your country? Yeah,

(01:52:55):
and I think at least in soccer, it always depends
on the guy. But I think if you're of these
there there's so I think the loyalty goes to the
country most. And this is kind of a more recent
development where there is strained relationships between the clubs and
all the money that has poured into the clubs into
the country. It's not it's not as every time I

(01:53:17):
would follow hockey, it would be a lot more of
a contentious relationship because there's one league across the world
for the best hockey out there, and that's the NHL.
And you know other leagues for hockey across the world,
be that the Continental Hockey League for Russia, or any
of the European leagues they shut down for the Olympics.
The NHL is the only one that is very stubborn

(01:53:37):
about not wanting their season to stop. Uh. There's been
more of that piece between international and club when it
comes to soccer. But yes, in this new age of
a of a lot of money pouring into the biggest
clubs out there, a lot of money into winning these
club based championships, there is more and more of a strain. Alright,

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good stuff, ris Uh. We'll be back next week with
more and maybe you'll have an update on this report
coming up. We bring you back out to Las Vegas.
Mackenzie rivers Macin on Sports. He's on a nineteen and
eight run when it comes to prop bets, and as
he's done in previous weeks, he'll have a prop bet,
best prop bet for the early games, the mid afternoon games,

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and then of close the uh five o'clock West Coast game,
he had o'clock East Coast game, the standalone NBC game
tomorrow night. Well tonight, I did it again. Did it again? Actually,
NFL Week fifteen resumes in seven hours and twenty minutes.
Won't be long, alrighty, I'm Bernie Fratto or comedy live
from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it

(01:54:45):
locked right here. You're listening to Fox Sports Sunday on
Fox Sports Radio. We are back on Fox Sports Sunday,
Fox Sports Radio. I'm Bernie Fratto. We are a comedy
live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Before
go any further, I want to thank my broadcast team
back in Los Angeles. They've been with me since eleven
pm Pacific and uh good four hours together with the

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guys that would be Bill Benson, Brian Falling on the updates,
and of course Chris Perfett. Could not do this radio
show without your teamwork. Al Right, guys, uh good stuff.
At this point, same time every week, Mackenzie rivers Mackin
on Sports and this is the part where he gives

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out uh prop bets for each betting window two and
one last week is not nineteen and eight on the year.
We've done this the last nine weeks. And so mackenzie
take it away. We've got three time slots tomorrow. Who
do you like? First up, let's go with the one
pm Eastern window. I like New York Jets quarterback Zach
Wilson to go under his passing total curly two oh

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eight and a half right now at fan duel. Now,
camouflage distraction, that is what the New York Jets no
longer have now that Urban Meyer and that circus and
Trevor Lawrence, now that that has kind of been cast aside,
we know what that is. It was a failure. Now
the question is what about this other franchise that also

(01:56:13):
had a top two draft pick. What are they gonna
do now that, just like last season, it's a race
to the bottom the in New York. If they're gonna
get another top two draft pick, well, I think what
they do is they played a little close to the vest.
Robert Sale has seen Zack Wilson get embarrassed by teams
such as the Texans, and now they go up against
the red hot Miami Dolphins defense that have held their

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last five opponents only a nine passing yards. I see
it in Miami being a very low scoring game with
a total of forty one Jets getting nothing going on offense.
Zach Wilson goes under two o eight and a half
passing yards. And we know h mackenzie that the Dolphins
game plan will be to blitz the hell out of

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out of Zach Wilson. So that could be a good
thing or a bad thing. We'll see what happens. But
continue on your nineteen and eight. Who do you like
in the afternoon games? Yes, nobody blitz is more than
The Dolphins are very very challenging for Zack Wilson with
his lack of experience. Now, this is my best bet
on the board for the afternoon games, and it's against
my team. It's against the forty Niners who have a

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ton of secondary injuries right now and the linebacker top
two corners out, safety questionable, one of their best cover
linebackers out. So I like the Atlanta Falcons tied end
to Kyle Pitts to go over forty five receiving yards
right now on Draftking. And this is simple the game script.
Forty Niners are nine point favorites. They are most likely

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going to be winning most of this game. The Falcons.
Matt Ryan is very used to this defense. It's what
Dan Quinn used to run his old coach, It's what
Robert Salo runs in New York when he went to
London and had his best QBR game of this season.
So I expect the Falcons to be passing early and
often down points in this game. And I think Kyle
Pitts right in the middle of that zone, that forty

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niner zone D fence will thrive. Best bet of the
day over forty five receiving yards for Pits. That looks
like a good one, especially as long as and and
there's no reason to think they want Quardurell Patterson plays
and Mike Davis plays. He could get that in two plays.
So all right, the evening game, Sunday Night Football, I'm

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gonna go with the New York Saints running back Alvin
Camaro to go under fifty three and a half rushing yards. Now,
think about this. Let's assume the line is correct. A
lot of people I know like the Bucks to get
it done cover the eleven and a half number, but
I could see someone taking the dog the other way.
Let's say it's correct and the Saints lose by ten
to twelve points. Well, if you look at Alvin Camaro's career,

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he almost never puts up yards in games that they lose.
In six games where they've lost by ten plus, he's
gone over fifty rushing yards only one time, averaging less
than thirty. In ten games that they've lost by seven plus,
only two times has he gone over fifty rushing yards. Now,
that's again, any opponent. They're not facing any opponent. They're
facing the number one stop you're running back from getting yards,

(01:59:06):
getting fantasy points, doing anything team, and that is the
Tampa Bay Bucks and their defensive coordinator. Uh I forget
his name, what's the Bucks? The defensive coordinator, He's no
Todd Bulls. Todd Bolls known for stopping the run, and
I think he gets it done. I think the Saints
have to throw to stay in this game, and Camara

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goes under, well, I yeah, I feel like that's a
that's a good one as well. Obviously the Bucks have
the best rushing defense in league, but the Saints also
have a good rushing defense as well. I think both
teams will throw. I expect Brady to completely pick apart
the Saints pass coverage away from a show Marshawn Lattimore,

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which means the Saints are gonna have to throw uh.
And and you know one of the other things too,
is as long as Tastom Hills in the game, he's
gonna run the ball a lot too, right, So it's
not gonna take away carries from Alvin Camara. Exactly dead
on Bernie Taysom Hill runs more than any other quarterback
currently that's starting in the league. He had over a
hundred yards the last two games, including a couple of touchdowns.

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That's all bred out of the mouth of Alvin Camara.
And I think they've got to have a dropback offense
in this game. Brady when favored UH the last two
years by five or more, has gone over. His games
have gone over by an average of six points. So
I expect to shootout. And if it's a shootout, Alvin
Camarra is not gonna be running for four yards of
pop with the Saints down by ten to fourteen points

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most of the game. Another best bet for me Kimara
under fifty three and a half rushing yards currently undraft kings.
All right, how about a bonus bet. This is impromptu,
but you have a side you like tomorrow. If there's
only one game you could play, which one would it be.
There's a lot of double digit spreads, there's a lot
of road favorites. Again, that's just where we're at in
the NFL right now. Yeah, the market is reacting to
a crazy week. We're only one underdog actually covered last week.

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I think a lot of underdogs are gonna cover this week.
I think it's gonna snap back, and this might surprise you.
My best bet will be the Atlanta Falcons plus nine.
I mentioned the forty Niners decimated in the secondary. If
there's one quarterback that's used to beating this defense, he's
done it in practice for a decade. I think it's
Matt Ryan. I think they have a big day on
offense and keep pace with the forty Niners. Cover the nine. Yeah,

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what's interesting is the Falcons are still alive for a
playoff game, and all right, good stuff, mackenzie, And not
for nothing. The Niners, your own fourteen against the spread,
has a home favorite of seven plus points in their
last fourteen. Meanwhile, the Falcons, they're twelve and three against
the number when they play a non divisional dog, a

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non divisional foe, and they're a dog of six or
more points. You can't count out. Matt Ryan and the
Falcons are gonna kick in, claw and scratch, and I
think they'll give a real good effort tomorrow. And I
would not surprise me if the Falcons hang that number. Alright,
we'll see how McKenzie does. Folks, that's gonna do it.
I'm Bernie Fratto. This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox
Sports Radio. Up next, Brian No and Andy Furman keep

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