May 27, 2022 • 43 mins
On today's Episode of Wrighster or Wrong, George Wrighster and Ralph Amsden discuss the tragic and infuriating shooting at Ross Elementary in Uvalde, Texas, and the predictable response from politicians that have refused to act since school shootings began back in the late 90's. They also give their Top 5 Dumbass Reasons For Not Passing Common Sense Gun Reform. #fsrweekends
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the intersection where sports, business, society and five culture be truth. Now,
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there is an issue that has been going on and
being very much so talked about in a country in
the world, and that is the shooting that happened in Uvaldi, Texas.
This has been hotly debated, it has cost controversy amongst
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friends and family and debates about gun violence, gun control,
and everything else. And we are going to weigh in
today on this topic. And but before we even get
into the shooting part of it and all that, we
are going to start with the top five. And this
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is a new segment that we have created. And today
our top five are the top five dumbass reasons people
give for not wanting any sort of sensible gun control laws.
And and I'm a gun owner. Before we even get
into it, you guys are are liberals who who who
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hate guns. Absolutely not. I am a gun owner, but
I am also under the understanding that for my kids
to be safe at school, that we need to have
some sort of real conversation about things about what we
are willing to sacrifice, what we are willing to sacrifice
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to keep things safe, like how many of our rights
or what are we willing to sacrifice in terms of
you no background checks, mental health that checks because in
other countries you have to go through uh. I think
it's Japan where you have to go through like a
mental evaluation, Go go see the police. All of this
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up background check just to get a firearm, just to
get a firearm. I don't I don't think that that's
all that outrageous. But you know, we keep giving people
thoughts and prayers and all this and actually doing nothing.
So here are our top ten reasons dumbass reasons that
people give for not wanting to even engage in a
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discussion about gun control laws. I'll let you go first, Ralph.
My number five dumbass reason for people not even wanting
to have a conversation about responsible gun control or gun
safety or gun reform laws is, first, we need to
find a way to give the young men of this
country a purpose. They just don't have a purpose. George
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and these eighteen year old kids. That's why an eighteen
year old kid gets radicalized on the internet, goes to
a grocery store in Buffalo and kills a bunch of people,
including a father who was just there to buy a
third birthday cake for his son. That's the reason. Because
he didn't have a purpose. That's the reason that, Uh,
this shooter decided that he had had enough of being
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poor and being bullied in his life, so he's gonna
shoot his grandma, barricade himself in an elementary school classroom,
and kill everybody inside because they didn't have a purpose.
So before we ever talk about guns and the guns
they get their hands on, we just got to give
these young men a purpose. What is it. I don't know.
That's not my responsibility, but somebody somewhere needs to give
these young men a purpose. Great reason. Uh Number nine,
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I think that this is is one that has grown
in terms of its frequency. Is that number nine? I'm
sorry number five for for me, we have an architecture problem.
An architecture problem, Ralph. If we just designed schools differently,
if we just tear all the buildings down, rebuild them
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like like actual jails, one way in, one way out.
That would that would help everything, if we just fix
the architecture of the of the schools, even though some
of them are two stories, some of them are one story,
some of them are are have bungalows and and and
and and everything else. Yeah, so so who cares about
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all of that? You know, we need to fix the architecture, Ralph,
and then we'll stop having mass shootings because then we
could have a police officer in the front or an
armed security guard that will that will stop all of
these mass shootings, even though in the last two in
Texas there have been people there but it didn't work. Yeah,
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so we don't care about the evil kid buying to
two dollar guns on his eighteen birthday. We don't even
care about him driving to an elementary school to kill kids.
What we care about is making sure that once he's
there with the guns trying to murder as many people
as possible, that the doors are secure. Yes, so we'll
let him get that far, you know what, God forbid
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he arrives when school is let out and everybody's filing
out the parking lot. I guess we haven't thought that
part through. But if we just fix these buildings, we
won't have to worry about school shootings anymore, George, exactly, exactly.
My number four dumbass reason for not enacting any UH
sensible type of gun safety reform is that it's my
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right not to. It's my right not to. When the
founders of this country, who died at fifty years old,
had teeth, owned slaves and had never been west of Ohio,
decided that we needed well regulated militia to protect ourselves
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from the government, and then use that well regulated militia
theory to defend slavery when they decided that, like, hey,
we really need these muskets because what if there's government
tyranny UH that applies to the current UH weapons of war?
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It has to write, it has to. It's my it is.
It is my right to collect cool military shit as
my hobby. You know it. Machinees, grenades, poison gas aren't
things that they allow us to have. But we've decided
to draw the line ourselves. Um, having an A R
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fifteen UH makes sense only in the vacuum of the
existence of other A R fifteens, Right, Like, the only
reason you need a R fifteen because someone else might
have one. UM, But yeah, it's it's my right. Therefore,
you can't change anything because I am entitled to my
brand new interpretation of something that the founders couldn't even
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fathom existing. Exactly, Bro, exactly and and and here's the thing.
Is the idea that the rules from the past should
be exactly the same now is idiocy, Dude. It is
absolutely easy. The rules are supposed to change and develop,
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just like the laws in every other thing have developed
throughout the years, developed throughout the centuries. At Nanna, this
one was perfect, as is um number my number four.
The reason why all this stuff is happening because there's
a lack of discipline the kids. The kids don't have
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enough discipline at home, Ralph. If they are actually disciplined
at home, old school style, then then that is the
reason why we have so many school shootings, Ralph. It's
it's clear. It's obvious. Oh, Like, it is very clear
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that the number one thing that stops violence is being
violent towards your children. Because if your kids are acting
up and you don't act violently toward them, how are
they going to know to not be violent later? Bro?
It's it's clear, it's right. So like you yeah, you
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got to make sure that you're beating these children, these
tiny children without frontal lobes developed in their uh there,
their schools not fully formed and hardened. Because if you're
not beaten on these kids, they might learn that violence
is the answer to their problems. Yep, exactly exactly. M hm. Well,
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my number three dumbass reason for not enacting any type
of common sense gun reform, uh is that, honestly, we
just need more fathers around. If there were just if
there were dads. I mean, I don't know how to
conjure dad's, but if I could do a magic trip
instead of taking away guns, let's add some dads. If
gun manufacturers manufactured, maybe some dads that we could just
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sprinkle them into some families and uh yeah yeah, like
in A R and the D a D fifteen. I
like that. I like that, just just just just equation
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will be we'll be fine. To be clear, it's not
my responsibility to support any type of legislation at all
that would keep some of these fathers out of prison,
like decriminalizing marijuana or enforcing things in impoverished neighborhoods that
I wouldn't enforce in middle class or rich neighborhoods. That's
not my responsibility. Um, we just need to figure out
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what's keeping these dads out of out of the home.
And I don't have any responsibility toward it. But let's
get some dads in these homes. Somebody will figure it out.
Dad's in the homes. No shootings. Mm hmmm, I like it.
I like it. Picasso. Uh now my number three? Oh wait,
hold on, hold on, hold on. Now. We can acknowledge
right that there need to be more dads in in homes, right,
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and that a fatherhood issue on some level, that that's
something that we can do better at as a country
and as as citizens, all all sorts of stuff, right,
that we can that that's an area that needs to
improve because fathers are very important, that that we can
need to improve that, and at the same time say
that that's a dumbass reason to to to not have
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gun gun reform laws or strict things or limit things
that the the ability to buy or what you can
buy for all those sorts of things. We can admit
that both of those things are true at the same time,
but absolutely and it's a dumbass it's a dumbass reason
because what you're saying is if somebody has a dad
who gets shot in a Buffalo grocery store when they're
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three years old, when he was there shopping for your
birthday cake, that it's that family's fault if that kid
grows up screwed up. Yes, yeah, because absent fathers include
a lot of things. George, can your dad being murdered
by an a R fifty cancer? Uh? Like? Like all
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sorts of things that are not actually bad, right, Like
your father was in the military, he was killed, a sickness,
just a car accident, whole host of things that don't
you mean you mean, like Joe Garcia dying of a
heart attack two days after his wife, Irma Garcia was
gunned down in a rob elementary classroom with a year
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old at home, and things like that. They can take
a dad out of the house. Well, if we can
find another dad to step in there, I'm sure that
kid will be fine. We don't need gun legislation. Yep.
My number three is it's the internet and social media
and video games as fault Ralph. Now, we can also
acknowledge that that video games are violent and some some
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of some of them, But if if parents were around,
if fathers were around, they wouldn't let their kids play them.
So so it's the video games is fault that and
the and rap music's fault. What kind of violence is
in video games and in movies? What kind of violence
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and violence? Yes, so are we it's called it's it's
called a duty. I mean, like, okay, okay, So if
we take away access to fake guns, because fake guns
are the problem, then we don't have to worry about
real guns which are being depicted in music, movies and
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video games. Right, So, like, if they lose access to
the fake gun, they'll still have access to the real gun,
and they'll still have all the problems in life that
would lead them to make that type of a decision.
But at least they're not killing computer pixels. Bingo bingo.
Um yeah, now you're onto number two. My number two
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dumbass reason for not enacting any type of gun uh legislation.
Um that is common sense is that bad guys are
just gonna find a way. If you take away their gun,
they might use a knife. You take away their knife,
they might use a van. If you take away their van,
they might go to train conductor school and figure out
how to run a train. If you take away their train,
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they might figure out how to poison the water supply.
If you take away their water supply, they might learn
how to program some of these fake birds that the
government has flying around to just attack people. If you
take away their fake birds, who knows, they might just
go around squirt and catch up on people's shirts. Because
some people are just assholes. Exactly, bro, exactly, it's yes,
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but the but the problem is guess what killing nineteen people, well,
twenty one people with with the knife? Do you know
how difficult that is? Oh? Yeah, I mean sure, statistics
show that six times the amount of of death and
dismemberment takes place uh when a semi automatic weapon is
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used in a shooting. Um, but bad guys are just
gonna find a way, So who cares if the math,
I mean, it's just math. Math is subjective, right, two
plus two could be anything? Yep percent, Bro, that that
one is absolute stupidity to me. That, yes, bad guys
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will be bad guys. But also if they have limited
access to the tools to be able to uh like, like,
there's a reason why people aren't allowed to own grenades
and rocket launchers and all types of stuff like that.
It's bad for the general public. Can most people own
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those things? The vast majority of people own those things
and nothing go wrong on one per percent. But people
like I'm not giving sacrificing something for just rogue people. Okay,
it's all fun and games till it shows up at
your doorstep. It hasn't showed up at mine, It hasn't
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showed up at Ralph's. But I guarantee Tag Cruise and
his family would have a whole different story if if, if,
if it was one of his kids that was that
was in that it was in that room that got shot, guaranteed. Yeah.
I mean it is weird that in two that only
security started tracking mass purchase as a fertilizer which can
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be used in bombs. Mhm, exactly, Um number my number
two reason. Listen, the reason why we need guns is
because more guns keep us safer. The good guys with
the guns, I mean, President Trump is holding a talk.
Um he well where did when he is he showing
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up to talk at CPAX Suston, Yes, Houston n r
A convention, the National Rifle Association and convention in Houston
is today. They're they're the good guys right, So, well
you're you're not You're not allowed to have guns at
all there. I don't know why. Wait wait, so so
you can't have guns at the n r A convention
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in in in Texas. Yeah, a lot of good guys
with guns there. There's no way that a bad guy
with a gun would ever want to be somewhere where
all the good guys with guns would be. Unless it's
possible that guns aren't all the way completely safe. But
that that can't be right. No, no, no, you should
be able to take a gun to a stadium, to
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a nightclub with all the alcohol that ever it bro
all right, what what's your number one reason? My number
one reason for not enacting uh any type of gun
safety legislation or reform, My number one dumbass reason is that, George,
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in this country, we just gotta put God back in
schools because we don't have a gun problem, we have
a sin problem. M m M. I mean can can
can both things be true at the same time? I mean,
is is that possible? Well? I mean, if we were
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allowed to t about God in schools, nothing bad would happen.
I mean, I understand that. Two weeks ago, news came
out that at these reform schools where they tried to
teach Native Americans religion and assimilate them into a society
where they could be Catholic or Christian, that there's also
a bunch of mass graves out back of all of
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these schools where uh, they beat the students to death
for not assimilating fast enough. Um. And I know those
schools were all about having God in them, And as
a Christian, I'm having a hard time squaring why there
might be dead kids at a school that is all
about teaching them about God. But I can't think about
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that right now, because what we have in this country
is a sin problem, not a gun problem. So if
we can just get everyone on earth to not do
any more sinning, forget the fact that the Bible says
that everybody has fallen and everybody is gonna sin, and
everybody fall short of the glory of God, and that
without which Jesus died to give us, that we would
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be chained to our sin forever, the sin that we're
going to continue to commit long after we learn about God,
learn about Jesus, because we have to have an entire
lifetime of accepting that grace to understand his love for us.
But if everyone could just stop sinning because they learned
about God in first grade, nobody's going to bring a
gun to school and shoot people. Forget the fact that
a lot of the kids in that class were probably
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Christian and in their last most desperate moments praying to
God for some type of comfort and salvation. Yea, let's
forget that God is not just in a building, but
in us through the Holy Spirit. Let's forget all those things.
If your teacher reads from Leviticus, there's not going to
be any more shooting. So let's focus on that. Fox
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s R to listen live. Number one dumb ass reason
people do not want to make gun control or gun
reform laws is that, listen, guns don't kill people. People
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kill people. People kill people. So the thing that you
either have to do is limit the access to the
machine or you have to fix the people. And but
the problem is can you fix the people? Is the question?
The answer is no, you can't fix the people. And
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now there is an element because of social media, television,
all of this stuff. That these things that are becoming
more popularized, these things people have access to more radical
be behavior and um and radical lies. Thinking is now
has a forum on the Internet and you can go
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find it if you want to search for it. So
then people will what would say, well, shut down all
that stuff. Oh oh, so you want people to shut
it down. But I thought we shouldn't be censoring what
people are saying. I thought Donald Trump should be should
be allowed on Twitter. I thought that this and this
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that everybody should This is free speech. People. I can
call you the end word. I can say this, I
can say that without being reprimanded or canceled. So why
can't these people? No, I'm with you. I'm very frustrated
that Castle Grand, Arizona police pulled some people over this
week and found five hundred thousand fentinel pills in the car.
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Uh the There's two women and their children, and they
arrested those women and they charged them with child abuse. George,
how fair is that that, all of a sudden, these
kids can't be with their moms. So now we have
family disruption, And we already talked about that because they
had five hundred thousand Fentinel pills in their car. That's it.
Fentnel doesn't kill people, people, old people, correct, right, So
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why should we be arresting people who uh ship oh, Ralph, Ralph?
Hold up? Hold up? But you we we have to
remember we must throw the drug dealers in jail. But
but for everything else in life, listen, we gotta have
personal responsibility people, personal responsibility. But but but when the
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drug dealer pressed the pill for little Johnny, now it's
different because it showed up at your doorstep. That's the
difference in the way people view things. When it shows
up at their doorstep, that's when they they have a problem. Right.
That's what I'm saying is that abortions don't terminate pregnancies.
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People terminate pregnancies. So let's not outlaw abortions. Let's not
outlaw guns. Let's not outlaw fentel. It's all people. And
if people stopped sending then we wouldn't have anything. But
then if those people who are sending do get ahold
of a gun, George, as long as there's a good
guy with a gun there to stop him. If we
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took away that bad guy's gun, he'd just be there
with a knife anyway, because he was on the internet
and looking at social media that poisoned his mind. And
he probably had an absentee father, which means he didn't
get that discipline. And it's his right anyway, even if
he wants to go kill those kids. It was his
right to pick up that gun in the first place.
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And if there wasn't an architecture problem at that fucking school,
that he would have been exercising his right. So let's
make sure to give these young men of purpose so
that they're not out hunting our fucking children. Precisely now
onto the Valdi shooting. There were so many levels of this,
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and the conversations that we've all had with our families,
with our kids and everybody involved and everybody in in
between have been crazy difficult. Right, parents are scared to
take their kids to school because you don't know, like
you don't know whether going to the grocery store is
a problem. You don't know whether they're going And and
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that's even before you add in the fact that there
are people who who hate black people and are like,
we're gonna that that the the white replacement theory, we
gotta kill all the black people that's before you even
turn into a black person just being white sending your
kids to school. But the issue is, though the good
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guy with the guns stuff right. The problem though, is Ralph,
that we have also run into a problem of that
the good guys with the guns didn't run in to
go get the bad guy. They waited forty minutes or
ninety minute, depending on what all the reports are, at
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least forty minutes before they went in. Can you explain
that to me? Like and that the that the that
the chief of police or the sheriff, what what what
whichever to do? It is on camera saying yes, there
were people in law enforcement who went in to go
get their kids out of school. I don't have room
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to process any of the self preservation that the uval,
the police, border patrol, and everybody involved with this have done. Um.
It seemed like early on they wanted to stand shoulder
to shoulder with the governor to say like, we got
the job done. We killed this guy. You know, we're
mourning with this community. The media continues to press the
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media that so many people in this country believe is
pure evil and pure sensationalist. Continue to press and we
end up finding out that the truth isn't necessarily the truth. UM.
For me, I was as angry as I was possibly
going to get UM the moment that I heard that
more kids were dead. And so I don't know how
to process any of the information that's coming in about
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the police not doing, the police keeping parents from going in,
the police going in themselves, the police waiting in a
hallway in which eleven year old girl named Mia was
attempting to dial the police and smeared the blood of
her friends all over the fact that the police asked
if anybody was alive in the classroom that needed help,
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and someone said me, and that person got shot and killed.
The the idea that it took an hour to get
the keys to the to the universal keys to open
the door to go in, that this person had enough
time to to engage for twelve minutes outside the school
and then spend an hour inside the school. I don't
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think people understand in a time of crisis, how long
twelve minutes is much less an hour. I don't think
people understand how long this amount of time is. I
want to believe the best in people, and that those
police officers were human beings, and that they took this
job for a reason, and that they wanted nothing more
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than to bring justice to the shooter and save as
many lives as possible. I want to believe all of
those things. The evidence at this point points to some
level of self preservation. That you have people galaxy brain,
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waste of oxygen, human beings like Jason Whitlock saying that
every police officer in that hallway was simply just afraid
of being made a meme on the internet because of
George Floyd. They really think that nine team police officers
were standing around in a hallway saying, we're not going
to exercise bravery and kill this man because people don't
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like us anyway. There has to be some innate problem
with policies and procedures and rank and following order there.
There just has to be some deeper seated issue here
than the fact that police feel like they got made
fun of too hard and they don't feel like they're
gonna get enough clout, so they're gonna wait an hour
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to kill someone who's inside murdering children. If none of
it makes any sense, I refuse to believe that like that.
That doesn't even make sense. What makes sense is is
that they were scared. And and I have acknowledged and
I think everybody acknowledges that being a law enforcement officer
it is very difficult. It is scary at times that
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but number one, it is one of those jobs that
you don't get a lot of margin of error for.
You know what I mean. It's it's it's like being
a being a pilot. You don't get to you know, uh, man,
I screwed everything up today. You don't you you don't
get to to do that as a commercial pilot. You
don't get to do that as a law enforcement officer.
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And we understand that. But then they will ask our
teachers like you guys should carrot carrot guns and this
and that. How does it make sense when you see
some of the stuff because kids don't have fathers at
home and all that stuff, when they are harassing teachers
and and and teachers have gotten in fights with students,
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having teachers with guns, does that sound like a good
positive idea to you? And they are underpaid? Asked under
schools are underfunded? Dude? It was insanity to me, Like
like when when when people are saying that there so
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the average the average police officer makes like sixty eight
thousand dollars. Well, we need a trained police officer in
every school. Okay, that's sixty eight thousand dollars times the
amount of schools, that's like eight billion dollars. But what
billion dollars. If we can send need to a war
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zone in Ukraine, we can spend money in the war
zones in America's schools. I was I was I because
there has been a school shooting at like every seminal
point of my entire life, much less some type of
mass shooting. In my hometown. When I was nine years old,
a man walk onto a middle school football field, shot
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for students and then turn the gun on himself. He's
a twenty nine year old Navy veteran named Kevin Newman
in my Wyoming town of sixteen thousand people, probably thirteen
thousand at the time. So I was aware of school
shootings from the age of nine on. When I was
a freshman in high school, column night happened. I was
writing for the school newspaper at the time, and one
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of the things that they said is we just need
to get kids with lanyards on so that we can
identify who belongs here and who doesn't. Well, those kids
went to that school, which is one of the things
that we people propose the solution of, like well if
we just have one entrance, When I said, well, what
if the kid goes to the school, there's nothing to
stop them in in that case. When I go to college,
there's the Virginia Tech shooting, and then colleges have to
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rearrange the way that they do everything. In the time
that I am a junior high teacher, there are so
many school shootings that we start to have meetings about
carrying guns, something that I expressed to my principle that
I'm uncomfortable doing, and her a grandmother, pledges to carry
a gun on my behalf. We also had a meeting
where we had to discuss whether or not we should
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fire live rounds through the wall, because if I'm going
to have my students sitting against a wall and we
meet in an old church, if this wall is not
thick enough to stop a bullet from going through, am
I putting my kids in harm's way? Right? We were
constantly having meetings about what we do if somebody is
firing live rounds in our children, including meetings about who
we have to lock out in the hallway and sacrifice
if they're taking a bathroom trip. We were constantly having
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these meetings, and then I go into to work as
a as I met you as a high school football
sports reporter, and they're shootings at basketball games, and they're
shootings at football games. And now repeat out of the
pandemic and everybody's back together again, and people's heads aren't
on straight. You have people who got radicalized into these
ideas where they believe that they need to inflict as
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much punishment on the world as possible. And we have
had so many mass shootings just in the last two
months that we're back here debating the same stuff that
we did after Sandy Hook and I don't know. I
don't know what to do. And it really feels like
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every time the police screw up in a situation they
should never be in the first place, because we have
put police in so many situations that they should never
be in, whether it's drug enforcement in neighborhoods where they
should simply be protecting the people of that neighborhood, or
whether it's responding to children getting mass murdered by weapons
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that you should only have access to in a battlefield.
We point out the mistakes of the police, and we
get enraged of the mistakes of the police, when the
fact is they would never be in that situation if
we legislated in such a way to protect the least
and most vulnerable amongst us, and also in a way
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that doesn't remove the rights of the people who are
acting responsibly elsewhere in this country. Yep, you are right,
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is said that my my six year old son asked
me the other day. He was like, Dad that this
this has to stop. Kids aren't safe at school, blah
blah blah. And he was like, what are they gonna do?
I was like, nothing, nothing's going to happen. He was like,
and he looked at me because he knows I'm a
very hopeful person. I'm a person that that that is like,
(34:03):
if you don't like something, change it. And he asked
me what was going to be done. I said absolutely nothing.
He in in the confusion on his face was just
like really, I was like, son, nothing is going to happen.
They aren't going to vote on common sense legislations. They
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are gonna make it more difficult to get guns. They
aren't going to um do anything with the gun man manufacturers. Nothing.
It is not going to happen. And he looked, you know,
discouraged at my discouragement, and I didn't know what else
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to time. I was like, broth, it's it's not gonna happen,
so so so stop wishing for it. You have every
right to be discouraged because the United States Senate has
eleven members, so eleven percent of the total Senate has
been in office since Columbine. They were in office for Columbine.
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They're still in office today. Mitch McConnell, Chuck Grassley, Patrick
Leahy uh, Richard Shelby, Mike Crapo, Susan Collins, Chuck Schumer,
Jim Inhoff, Ron White, and Jack Murray Patty Murray have
done nothing for twenty three years. They have watched kids
(35:32):
get murdered and people get killed in synagogues, people get
killed out on the street in San Bernardino. Can't go
to a gay club in Orlando, can't go to a
country music concert in Las Vegas. You cannot go to school.
If you live in Texas, you cannot go to school.
If you're in Sandy Hook, you cannot go to school
and be safe. And eleven United States Senators that have
been in office for every single school shooting, including Columbine,
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have changed or done abs revolutely nothing. And I know
that you can say yes, uh Bill Clinton passed an
assault weapons um uh ban and that caused mass shootings
to drop. Well guess what that ship happened before Columbine.
And they still let it expire in two thousand four. Yea,
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if they expire, because these are so afraid of re election, bro,
they are so afraid of reelection. You mean, it is
absolutely insane to me that you can go into a
job that doesn't have any term limits and be funded
by an organization whose sole goal is to increase quarter
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over quarter the sales of gun manufacturers, and that organization
will pay you millions of dollars towards your campaign to
keep you in your job, to ensure that you never
think twice about limiting the quarter over quarter gun manu
actual sales so much so that an eighteen year old,
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a severely disturbed eighteen year old with a history of abuse,
both abusing people on the internet and within his own household,
can spend four thousand dollars on two guns and we
don't even have laws like Canada where it requires two references.
Could this person have found two references to write a
(37:26):
letter on his behalf to say that, yeah, if you
wait a month. In Canada, anybody you've had sex with
in the last two years has to sign off on
the idea of you purchasing a weapon, you still get
the weapon, you still get it. But if you've had
an intimate partner and you can find two references, and
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you're willing to wait twenty eight days, and you're willing
to be trained on the proper ways to use that
utilitarian tool, you can have your web and but here
it doesn't make sense, dude it And because they're like
the bad guys have guns, well, well guess what if
if you like you have to prosecute people because I
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guarantee the gun manufacturers when they're shipping guns out, there's
somebody in that chain of command who knows where guns
are illegally going. Because because you don't, you don't lose
a thousand guns, you don't lose fifty guns. You don't
lose a hundred guns. You don't lose a thousand guns.
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These are big companies. They they they factor in loss
on some level with it because people still things off
of grocery store shelves. But you don't just guns don't
just vanish. Bro they don't just vanish because they're not
on grocery stores. Like like, it's not like people are
walking into gun gun stores and walking out like they
(38:58):
do at you know, at Walmart or Dwayne Reid or
anything like that or CBS. They're not doing that. So
the and the government just looks the other way. Prosecutors
looked the other way because they're like, oh, yeah, the
bad guys. Where do you think they're getting them from?
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And there was a time where the US government was
dumping guns in in bad neighborhoods or in black neighbors
And that's that's a Nino Brown line there. There's no
gun manufacturers in the inner city, correct, Like they end
up there somehow. And I just I just want to
hammer home the point that the Second Amendment is not
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the reason. It is not the reason why we have
people holding up common sense gun reform. The Second Amendment
is not the reason because if the Second Amendment was
all encompassing, you would have access to drones, grenades, dirty bombs,
(40:05):
nuclear weapons if you want. You would have access to
every single potential weapon of war that the government could
employ if the Second Amendment was the reason. The reason
there is no common sense gun reform, and there is
only one reason, is because any type of delay, any
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tiny type of delay, could hurt overall sales. Think about it.
If a tattoo shop said, yeah, I will absolutely do
that sick design on your throat, but I'm gonna make
you wait eight days before I put it on, you
could put down a ten percent deposit and come back
pay the rest and I'll put that giant butterfly across
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your throat. George, Yes, yes. And so the reason that
there is not waiting periods or background checks or more
stringent references or training associated with gun sales that would
actually secure and repurpose our Second Amendment in a way
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that made this country as unique as it is more American.
The whole reason is because they don't want to dip
in sales. And I'm talking to every single person out
there that isn't being paid to be a politician by
the n RRA or paid to be a commercial spokesman
for the n RA. You should be scared to death
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that your politicians are paid to uphold your second Second
Amendment rights and give you access to these a R fifteens,
because it means that they can easily be paid to
do the exact opposite. You should not want your politicians
that can serve in office for the duration of their
entire lives to be making decisions about your safety based
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on whoever is the highest bidder, Because if it turns
out that an enemy of mass profit for gun manufacturers
is the highest bidder, than guess what, your ship out
of luck. If you really care about this, if you
really care about the Second Amendment, then you should want
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people who are earnest defenders of the Second Amendment, not
earnest defenders of their ability to be reelected. And I
know there's gonna be plenty of people that say, well,
we just need to get rid of all guns, Ralph,
guess what. That's not happening. So what we're talking about
right now is limiting the access for disturbed young men,
because it's men pulling this ship. Outside of the married
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woman in San Bernardino, it's men pulling this ship. We
need to make sure that we limit the access to
mass casualty weapons of immediate rapid carnage for eighteen to
five year old weirdo, lonely asshole men. We need to
do that for our children from twenty I would up
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to that ero up into the d But you guys,
would the world be a better place if no one
had access to a R fifteens in the private sector?
Would the world be a better place? Would the world
be a better place if if if, if nobody had
access to guns? Period? Yes, And I'm a gun owner,
so you know I'm talking, But I'm talking about the practice,
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the practical thing, the fact that this has was used
in Las Vegas, that this was used in Buffalo. Yeah,
this was just used, dude, Dude. That's why you shouldn't
have access to rocket launchers and grenades either, Bro, because
they'd be like, oh, it's just a rocket launch, yeah,
but in the wrong hands. Well, the majority of people
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do it properly, yeah, but some don't. And so what
are you willing to sacrifice to keep our kids safe?
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there is an issue that has been going on and
being very much so talked about in a country in
the world, and that is the shooting that happened in Uvaldi, Texas.
This has been hotly debated, it has cost controversy amongst
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friends and family and debates about gun violence, gun control,
and everything else. And we are going to weigh in
today on this topic. And but before we even get
into the shooting part of it and all that, we
are going to start with the top five. And this
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is a new segment that we have created. And today
our top five are the top five dumbass reasons people
give for not wanting any sort of sensible gun control laws.
And and I'm a gun owner. Before we even get
into it, you guys are are liberals who who who
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hate guns. Absolutely not. I am a gun owner, but
I am also under the understanding that for my kids
to be safe at school, that we need to have
some sort of real conversation about things about what we
are willing to sacrifice, what we are willing to sacrifice
(01:57):
to keep things safe, like how many of our rights
or what are we willing to sacrifice in terms of
you no background checks, mental health that checks because in
other countries you have to go through uh. I think
it's Japan where you have to go through like a
mental evaluation, Go go see the police. All of this
(02:19):
up background check just to get a firearm, just to
get a firearm. I don't I don't think that that's
all that outrageous. But you know, we keep giving people
thoughts and prayers and all this and actually doing nothing.
So here are our top ten reasons dumbass reasons that
people give for not wanting to even engage in a
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discussion about gun control laws. I'll let you go first, Ralph.
My number five dumbass reason for people not even wanting
to have a conversation about responsible gun control or gun
safety or gun reform laws is, first, we need to
find a way to give the young men of this
country a purpose. They just don't have a purpose. George
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and these eighteen year old kids. That's why an eighteen
year old kid gets radicalized on the internet, goes to
a grocery store in Buffalo and kills a bunch of people,
including a father who was just there to buy a
third birthday cake for his son. That's the reason. Because
he didn't have a purpose. That's the reason that, Uh,
this shooter decided that he had had enough of being
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poor and being bullied in his life, so he's gonna
shoot his grandma, barricade himself in an elementary school classroom,
and kill everybody inside because they didn't have a purpose.
So before we ever talk about guns and the guns
they get their hands on, we just got to give
these young men a purpose. What is it. I don't know.
That's not my responsibility, but somebody somewhere needs to give
these young men a purpose. Great reason. Uh Number nine,
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I think that this is is one that has grown
in terms of its frequency. Is that number nine? I'm
sorry number five for for me, we have an architecture problem.
An architecture problem, Ralph. If we just designed schools differently,
if we just tear all the buildings down, rebuild them
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like like actual jails, one way in, one way out.
That would that would help everything, if we just fix
the architecture of the of the schools, even though some
of them are two stories, some of them are one story,
some of them are are have bungalows and and and
and and everything else. Yeah, so so who cares about
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all of that? You know, we need to fix the architecture, Ralph,
and then we'll stop having mass shootings because then we
could have a police officer in the front or an
armed security guard that will that will stop all of
these mass shootings, even though in the last two in
Texas there have been people there but it didn't work. Yeah,
(05:05):
so we don't care about the evil kid buying to
two dollar guns on his eighteen birthday. We don't even
care about him driving to an elementary school to kill kids.
What we care about is making sure that once he's
there with the guns trying to murder as many people
as possible, that the doors are secure. Yes, so we'll
let him get that far, you know what, God forbid
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he arrives when school is let out and everybody's filing
out the parking lot. I guess we haven't thought that
part through. But if we just fix these buildings, we
won't have to worry about school shootings anymore, George, exactly, exactly.
My number four dumbass reason for not enacting any UH
sensible type of gun safety reform is that it's my
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right not to. It's my right not to. When the
founders of this country, who died at fifty years old,
had teeth, owned slaves and had never been west of Ohio,
decided that we needed well regulated militia to protect ourselves
(06:09):
from the government, and then use that well regulated militia
theory to defend slavery when they decided that, like, hey,
we really need these muskets because what if there's government
tyranny UH that applies to the current UH weapons of war?
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It has to write, it has to. It's my it is.
It is my right to collect cool military shit as
my hobby. You know it. Machinees, grenades, poison gas aren't
things that they allow us to have. But we've decided
to draw the line ourselves. Um, having an A R
(06:52):
fifteen UH makes sense only in the vacuum of the
existence of other A R fifteens, Right, Like, the only
reason you need a R fifteen because someone else might
have one. UM, But yeah, it's it's my right. Therefore,
you can't change anything because I am entitled to my
brand new interpretation of something that the founders couldn't even
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fathom existing. Exactly, Bro, exactly and and and here's the thing.
Is the idea that the rules from the past should
be exactly the same now is idiocy, Dude. It is
absolutely easy. The rules are supposed to change and develop,
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just like the laws in every other thing have developed
throughout the years, developed throughout the centuries. At Nanna, this
one was perfect, as is um number my number four.
The reason why all this stuff is happening because there's
a lack of discipline the kids. The kids don't have
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enough discipline at home, Ralph. If they are actually disciplined
at home, old school style, then then that is the
reason why we have so many school shootings, Ralph. It's
it's clear. It's obvious. Oh, Like, it is very clear
(08:18):
that the number one thing that stops violence is being
violent towards your children. Because if your kids are acting
up and you don't act violently toward them, how are
they going to know to not be violent later? Bro?
It's it's clear, it's right. So like you yeah, you
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got to make sure that you're beating these children, these
tiny children without frontal lobes developed in their uh there,
their schools not fully formed and hardened. Because if you're
not beaten on these kids, they might learn that violence
is the answer to their problems. Yep, exactly exactly. M hm. Well,
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my number three dumbass reason for not enacting any type
of common sense gun reform, uh is that, honestly, we
just need more fathers around. If there were just if
there were dads. I mean, I don't know how to
conjure dad's, but if I could do a magic trip
instead of taking away guns, let's add some dads. If
gun manufacturers manufactured, maybe some dads that we could just
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sprinkle them into some families and uh yeah yeah, like
in A R and the D a D fifteen. I
like that. I like that, just just just just equation
(09:48):
will be we'll be fine. To be clear, it's not
my responsibility to support any type of legislation at all
that would keep some of these fathers out of prison,
like decriminalizing marijuana or enforcing things in impoverished neighborhoods that
I wouldn't enforce in middle class or rich neighborhoods. That's
not my responsibility. Um, we just need to figure out
(10:12):
what's keeping these dads out of out of the home.
And I don't have any responsibility toward it. But let's
get some dads in these homes. Somebody will figure it out.
Dad's in the homes. No shootings. Mm hmmm, I like it.
I like it. Picasso. Uh now my number three? Oh wait,
hold on, hold on, hold on. Now. We can acknowledge
right that there need to be more dads in in homes, right,
(10:36):
and that a fatherhood issue on some level, that that's
something that we can do better at as a country
and as as citizens, all all sorts of stuff, right,
that we can that that's an area that needs to
improve because fathers are very important, that that we can
need to improve that, and at the same time say
that that's a dumbass reason to to to not have
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gun gun reform laws or strict things or limit things
that the the ability to buy or what you can
buy for all those sorts of things. We can admit
that both of those things are true at the same time,
but absolutely and it's a dumbass it's a dumbass reason
because what you're saying is if somebody has a dad
who gets shot in a Buffalo grocery store when they're
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three years old, when he was there shopping for your
birthday cake, that it's that family's fault if that kid
grows up screwed up. Yes, yeah, because absent fathers include
a lot of things. George, can your dad being murdered
by an a R fifty cancer? Uh? Like? Like all
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sorts of things that are not actually bad, right, Like
your father was in the military, he was killed, a sickness,
just a car accident, whole host of things that don't
you mean you mean, like Joe Garcia dying of a
heart attack two days after his wife, Irma Garcia was
gunned down in a rob elementary classroom with a year
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old at home, and things like that. They can take
a dad out of the house. Well, if we can
find another dad to step in there, I'm sure that
kid will be fine. We don't need gun legislation. Yep.
My number three is it's the internet and social media
and video games as fault Ralph. Now, we can also
acknowledge that that video games are violent and some some
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of some of them, But if if parents were around,
if fathers were around, they wouldn't let their kids play them.
So so it's the video games is fault that and
the and rap music's fault. What kind of violence is
in video games and in movies? What kind of violence
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and violence? Yes, so are we it's called it's it's
called a duty. I mean, like, okay, okay, So if
we take away access to fake guns, because fake guns
are the problem, then we don't have to worry about
real guns which are being depicted in music, movies and
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video games. Right, So, like, if they lose access to
the fake gun, they'll still have access to the real gun,
and they'll still have all the problems in life that
would lead them to make that type of a decision.
But at least they're not killing computer pixels. Bingo bingo.
Um yeah, now you're onto number two. My number two
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dumbass reason for not enacting any type of gun uh legislation.
Um that is common sense is that bad guys are
just gonna find a way. If you take away their gun,
they might use a knife. You take away their knife,
they might use a van. If you take away their van,
they might go to train conductor school and figure out
how to run a train. If you take away their train,
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they might figure out how to poison the water supply.
If you take away their water supply, they might learn
how to program some of these fake birds that the
government has flying around to just attack people. If you
take away their fake birds, who knows, they might just
go around squirt and catch up on people's shirts. Because
some people are just assholes. Exactly, bro, exactly, it's yes,
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but the but the problem is guess what killing nineteen people, well,
twenty one people with with the knife? Do you know
how difficult that is? Oh? Yeah, I mean sure, statistics
show that six times the amount of of death and
dismemberment takes place uh when a semi automatic weapon is
(14:44):
used in a shooting. Um, but bad guys are just
gonna find a way, So who cares if the math,
I mean, it's just math. Math is subjective, right, two
plus two could be anything? Yep percent, Bro, that that
one is absolute stupidity to me. That, yes, bad guys
(15:08):
will be bad guys. But also if they have limited
access to the tools to be able to uh like, like,
there's a reason why people aren't allowed to own grenades
and rocket launchers and all types of stuff like that.
It's bad for the general public. Can most people own
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those things? The vast majority of people own those things
and nothing go wrong on one per percent. But people
like I'm not giving sacrificing something for just rogue people. Okay,
it's all fun and games till it shows up at
your doorstep. It hasn't showed up at mine, It hasn't
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showed up at Ralph's. But I guarantee Tag Cruise and
his family would have a whole different story if if, if,
if it was one of his kids that was that
was in that it was in that room that got shot, guaranteed. Yeah.
I mean it is weird that in two that only
security started tracking mass purchase as a fertilizer which can
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be used in bombs. Mhm, exactly, Um number my number
two reason. Listen, the reason why we need guns is
because more guns keep us safer. The good guys with
the guns, I mean, President Trump is holding a talk.
Um he well where did when he is he showing
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up to talk at CPAX Suston, Yes, Houston n r
A convention, the National Rifle Association and convention in Houston
is today. They're they're the good guys right, So, well
you're you're not You're not allowed to have guns at
all there. I don't know why. Wait wait, so so
you can't have guns at the n r A convention
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in in in Texas. Yeah, a lot of good guys
with guns there. There's no way that a bad guy
with a gun would ever want to be somewhere where
all the good guys with guns would be. Unless it's
possible that guns aren't all the way completely safe. But
that that can't be right. No, no, no, you should
be able to take a gun to a stadium, to
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a nightclub with all the alcohol that ever it bro
all right, what what's your number one reason? My number
one reason for not enacting uh any type of gun
safety legislation or reform, My number one dumbass reason is that, George,
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in this country, we just gotta put God back in
schools because we don't have a gun problem, we have
a sin problem. M m M. I mean can can
can both things be true at the same time? I mean,
is is that possible? Well? I mean, if we were
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allowed to t about God in schools, nothing bad would happen.
I mean, I understand that. Two weeks ago, news came
out that at these reform schools where they tried to
teach Native Americans religion and assimilate them into a society
where they could be Catholic or Christian, that there's also
a bunch of mass graves out back of all of
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these schools where uh, they beat the students to death
for not assimilating fast enough. Um. And I know those
schools were all about having God in them, And as
a Christian, I'm having a hard time squaring why there
might be dead kids at a school that is all
about teaching them about God. But I can't think about
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that right now, because what we have in this country
is a sin problem, not a gun problem. So if
we can just get everyone on earth to not do
any more sinning, forget the fact that the Bible says
that everybody has fallen and everybody is gonna sin, and
everybody fall short of the glory of God, and that
without which Jesus died to give us, that we would
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be chained to our sin forever, the sin that we're
going to continue to commit long after we learn about God,
learn about Jesus, because we have to have an entire
lifetime of accepting that grace to understand his love for us.
But if everyone could just stop sinning because they learned
about God in first grade, nobody's going to bring a
gun to school and shoot people. Forget the fact that
a lot of the kids in that class were probably
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Christian and in their last most desperate moments praying to
God for some type of comfort and salvation. Yea, let's
forget that God is not just in a building, but
in us through the Holy Spirit. Let's forget all those things.
If your teacher reads from Leviticus, there's not going to
be any more shooting. So let's focus on that. Fox
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s R to listen live. Number one dumb ass reason
people do not want to make gun control or gun
reform laws is that, listen, guns don't kill people. People
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kill people. People kill people. So the thing that you
either have to do is limit the access to the
machine or you have to fix the people. And but
the problem is can you fix the people? Is the question?
The answer is no, you can't fix the people. And
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now there is an element because of social media, television,
all of this stuff. That these things that are becoming
more popularized, these things people have access to more radical
be behavior and um and radical lies. Thinking is now
has a forum on the Internet and you can go
(20:55):
find it if you want to search for it. So
then people will what would say, well, shut down all
that stuff. Oh oh, so you want people to shut
it down. But I thought we shouldn't be censoring what
people are saying. I thought Donald Trump should be should
be allowed on Twitter. I thought that this and this
(21:15):
that everybody should This is free speech. People. I can
call you the end word. I can say this, I
can say that without being reprimanded or canceled. So why
can't these people? No, I'm with you. I'm very frustrated
that Castle Grand, Arizona police pulled some people over this
week and found five hundred thousand fentinel pills in the car.
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Uh the There's two women and their children, and they
arrested those women and they charged them with child abuse. George,
how fair is that that, all of a sudden, these
kids can't be with their moms. So now we have
family disruption, And we already talked about that because they
had five hundred thousand Fentinel pills in their car. That's it.
Fentnel doesn't kill people, people, old people, correct, right, So
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why should we be arresting people who uh ship oh, Ralph, Ralph?
Hold up? Hold up? But you we we have to
remember we must throw the drug dealers in jail. But
but for everything else in life, listen, we gotta have
personal responsibility people, personal responsibility. But but but when the
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drug dealer pressed the pill for little Johnny, now it's
different because it showed up at your doorstep. That's the
difference in the way people view things. When it shows
up at their doorstep, that's when they they have a problem. Right.
That's what I'm saying is that abortions don't terminate pregnancies.
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People terminate pregnancies. So let's not outlaw abortions. Let's not
outlaw guns. Let's not outlaw fentel. It's all people. And
if people stopped sending then we wouldn't have anything. But
then if those people who are sending do get ahold
of a gun, George, as long as there's a good
guy with a gun there to stop him. If we
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took away that bad guy's gun, he'd just be there
with a knife anyway, because he was on the internet
and looking at social media that poisoned his mind. And
he probably had an absentee father, which means he didn't
get that discipline. And it's his right anyway, even if
he wants to go kill those kids. It was his
right to pick up that gun in the first place.
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And if there wasn't an architecture problem at that fucking school,
that he would have been exercising his right. So let's
make sure to give these young men of purpose so
that they're not out hunting our fucking children. Precisely now
onto the Valdi shooting. There were so many levels of this,
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and the conversations that we've all had with our families,
with our kids and everybody involved and everybody in in
between have been crazy difficult. Right, parents are scared to
take their kids to school because you don't know, like
you don't know whether going to the grocery store is
a problem. You don't know whether they're going And and
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that's even before you add in the fact that there
are people who who hate black people and are like,
we're gonna that that the the white replacement theory, we
gotta kill all the black people that's before you even
turn into a black person just being white sending your
kids to school. But the issue is, though the good
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guy with the guns stuff right. The problem though, is Ralph,
that we have also run into a problem of that
the good guys with the guns didn't run in to
go get the bad guy. They waited forty minutes or
ninety minute, depending on what all the reports are, at
(24:52):
least forty minutes before they went in. Can you explain
that to me? Like and that the that the that
the chief of police or the sheriff, what what what
whichever to do? It is on camera saying yes, there
were people in law enforcement who went in to go
get their kids out of school. I don't have room
(25:15):
to process any of the self preservation that the uval,
the police, border patrol, and everybody involved with this have done. Um.
It seemed like early on they wanted to stand shoulder
to shoulder with the governor to say like, we got
the job done. We killed this guy. You know, we're
mourning with this community. The media continues to press the
(25:36):
media that so many people in this country believe is
pure evil and pure sensationalist. Continue to press and we
end up finding out that the truth isn't necessarily the truth. UM.
For me, I was as angry as I was possibly
going to get UM the moment that I heard that
more kids were dead. And so I don't know how
to process any of the information that's coming in about
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the police not doing, the police keeping parents from going in,
the police going in themselves, the police waiting in a
hallway in which eleven year old girl named Mia was
attempting to dial the police and smeared the blood of
her friends all over the fact that the police asked
if anybody was alive in the classroom that needed help,
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and someone said me, and that person got shot and killed.
The the idea that it took an hour to get
the keys to the to the universal keys to open
the door to go in, that this person had enough
time to to engage for twelve minutes outside the school
and then spend an hour inside the school. I don't
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think people understand in a time of crisis, how long
twelve minutes is much less an hour. I don't think
people understand how long this amount of time is. I
want to believe the best in people, and that those
police officers were human beings, and that they took this
job for a reason, and that they wanted nothing more
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than to bring justice to the shooter and save as
many lives as possible. I want to believe all of
those things. The evidence at this point points to some
level of self preservation. That you have people galaxy brain,
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waste of oxygen, human beings like Jason Whitlock saying that
every police officer in that hallway was simply just afraid
of being made a meme on the internet because of
George Floyd. They really think that nine team police officers
were standing around in a hallway saying, we're not going
to exercise bravery and kill this man because people don't
(27:44):
like us anyway. There has to be some innate problem
with policies and procedures and rank and following order there.
There just has to be some deeper seated issue here
than the fact that police feel like they got made
fun of too hard and they don't feel like they're
gonna get enough clout, so they're gonna wait an hour
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to kill someone who's inside murdering children. If none of
it makes any sense, I refuse to believe that like that.
That doesn't even make sense. What makes sense is is
that they were scared. And and I have acknowledged and
I think everybody acknowledges that being a law enforcement officer
it is very difficult. It is scary at times that
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but number one, it is one of those jobs that
you don't get a lot of margin of error for.
You know what I mean. It's it's it's like being
a being a pilot. You don't get to you know, uh, man,
I screwed everything up today. You don't you you don't
get to to do that as a commercial pilot. You
don't get to do that as a law enforcement officer.
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And we understand that. But then they will ask our
teachers like you guys should carrot carrot guns and this
and that. How does it make sense when you see
some of the stuff because kids don't have fathers at
home and all that stuff, when they are harassing teachers
and and and teachers have gotten in fights with students,
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having teachers with guns, does that sound like a good
positive idea to you? And they are underpaid? Asked under
schools are underfunded? Dude? It was insanity to me, Like
like when when when people are saying that there so
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the average the average police officer makes like sixty eight
thousand dollars. Well, we need a trained police officer in
every school. Okay, that's sixty eight thousand dollars times the
amount of schools, that's like eight billion dollars. But what
billion dollars. If we can send need to a war
(30:00):
zone in Ukraine, we can spend money in the war
zones in America's schools. I was I was I because
there has been a school shooting at like every seminal
point of my entire life, much less some type of
mass shooting. In my hometown. When I was nine years old,
a man walk onto a middle school football field, shot
(30:21):
for students and then turn the gun on himself. He's
a twenty nine year old Navy veteran named Kevin Newman
in my Wyoming town of sixteen thousand people, probably thirteen
thousand at the time. So I was aware of school
shootings from the age of nine on. When I was
a freshman in high school, column night happened. I was
writing for the school newspaper at the time, and one
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of the things that they said is we just need
to get kids with lanyards on so that we can
identify who belongs here and who doesn't. Well, those kids
went to that school, which is one of the things
that we people propose the solution of, like well if
we just have one entrance, When I said, well, what
if the kid goes to the school, there's nothing to
stop them in in that case. When I go to college,
there's the Virginia Tech shooting, and then colleges have to
(31:02):
rearrange the way that they do everything. In the time
that I am a junior high teacher, there are so
many school shootings that we start to have meetings about
carrying guns, something that I expressed to my principle that
I'm uncomfortable doing, and her a grandmother, pledges to carry
a gun on my behalf. We also had a meeting
where we had to discuss whether or not we should
(31:23):
fire live rounds through the wall, because if I'm going
to have my students sitting against a wall and we
meet in an old church, if this wall is not
thick enough to stop a bullet from going through, am
I putting my kids in harm's way? Right? We were
constantly having meetings about what we do if somebody is
firing live rounds in our children, including meetings about who
we have to lock out in the hallway and sacrifice
if they're taking a bathroom trip. We were constantly having
(31:46):
these meetings, and then I go into to work as
a as I met you as a high school football
sports reporter, and they're shootings at basketball games, and they're
shootings at football games. And now repeat out of the
pandemic and everybody's back together again, and people's heads aren't
on straight. You have people who got radicalized into these
ideas where they believe that they need to inflict as
(32:11):
much punishment on the world as possible. And we have
had so many mass shootings just in the last two
months that we're back here debating the same stuff that
we did after Sandy Hook and I don't know. I
don't know what to do. And it really feels like
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every time the police screw up in a situation they
should never be in the first place, because we have
put police in so many situations that they should never
be in, whether it's drug enforcement in neighborhoods where they
should simply be protecting the people of that neighborhood, or
whether it's responding to children getting mass murdered by weapons
(32:55):
that you should only have access to in a battlefield.
We point out the mistakes of the police, and we
get enraged of the mistakes of the police, when the
fact is they would never be in that situation if
we legislated in such a way to protect the least
and most vulnerable amongst us, and also in a way
(33:16):
that doesn't remove the rights of the people who are
acting responsibly elsewhere in this country. Yep, you are right,
bro right. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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(33:39):
is said that my my six year old son asked
me the other day. He was like, Dad that this
this has to stop. Kids aren't safe at school, blah
blah blah. And he was like, what are they gonna do?
I was like, nothing, nothing's going to happen. He was like,
and he looked at me because he knows I'm a
very hopeful person. I'm a person that that that is like,
(34:03):
if you don't like something, change it. And he asked
me what was going to be done. I said absolutely nothing.
He in in the confusion on his face was just
like really, I was like, son, nothing is going to happen.
They aren't going to vote on common sense legislations. They
(34:24):
are gonna make it more difficult to get guns. They
aren't going to um do anything with the gun man manufacturers. Nothing.
It is not going to happen. And he looked, you know,
discouraged at my discouragement, and I didn't know what else
(34:45):
to time. I was like, broth, it's it's not gonna happen,
so so so stop wishing for it. You have every
right to be discouraged because the United States Senate has
eleven members, so eleven percent of the total Senate has
been in office since Columbine. They were in office for Columbine.
(35:11):
They're still in office today. Mitch McConnell, Chuck Grassley, Patrick
Leahy uh, Richard Shelby, Mike Crapo, Susan Collins, Chuck Schumer,
Jim Inhoff, Ron White, and Jack Murray Patty Murray have
done nothing for twenty three years. They have watched kids
(35:32):
get murdered and people get killed in synagogues, people get
killed out on the street in San Bernardino. Can't go
to a gay club in Orlando, can't go to a
country music concert in Las Vegas. You cannot go to school.
If you live in Texas, you cannot go to school.
If you're in Sandy Hook, you cannot go to school
and be safe. And eleven United States Senators that have
been in office for every single school shooting, including Columbine,
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have changed or done abs revolutely nothing. And I know
that you can say yes, uh Bill Clinton passed an
assault weapons um uh ban and that caused mass shootings
to drop. Well guess what that ship happened before Columbine.
And they still let it expire in two thousand four. Yea,
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if they expire, because these are so afraid of re election, bro,
they are so afraid of reelection. You mean, it is
absolutely insane to me that you can go into a
job that doesn't have any term limits and be funded
by an organization whose sole goal is to increase quarter
(36:42):
over quarter the sales of gun manufacturers, and that organization
will pay you millions of dollars towards your campaign to
keep you in your job, to ensure that you never
think twice about limiting the quarter over quarter gun manu
actual sales so much so that an eighteen year old,
(37:04):
a severely disturbed eighteen year old with a history of abuse,
both abusing people on the internet and within his own household,
can spend four thousand dollars on two guns and we
don't even have laws like Canada where it requires two references.
Could this person have found two references to write a
(37:26):
letter on his behalf to say that, yeah, if you
wait a month. In Canada, anybody you've had sex with
in the last two years has to sign off on
the idea of you purchasing a weapon, you still get
the weapon, you still get it. But if you've had
an intimate partner and you can find two references, and
(37:51):
you're willing to wait twenty eight days, and you're willing
to be trained on the proper ways to use that
utilitarian tool, you can have your web and but here
it doesn't make sense, dude it And because they're like
the bad guys have guns, well, well guess what if
if you like you have to prosecute people because I
(38:15):
guarantee the gun manufacturers when they're shipping guns out, there's
somebody in that chain of command who knows where guns
are illegally going. Because because you don't, you don't lose
a thousand guns, you don't lose fifty guns. You don't
lose a hundred guns. You don't lose a thousand guns.
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These are big companies. They they they factor in loss
on some level with it because people still things off
of grocery store shelves. But you don't just guns don't
just vanish. Bro they don't just vanish because they're not
on grocery stores. Like like, it's not like people are
walking into gun gun stores and walking out like they
(38:58):
do at you know, at Walmart or Dwayne Reid or
anything like that or CBS. They're not doing that. So
the and the government just looks the other way. Prosecutors
looked the other way because they're like, oh, yeah, the
bad guys. Where do you think they're getting them from?
(39:18):
And there was a time where the US government was
dumping guns in in bad neighborhoods or in black neighbors
And that's that's a Nino Brown line there. There's no
gun manufacturers in the inner city, correct, Like they end
up there somehow. And I just I just want to
hammer home the point that the Second Amendment is not
(39:43):
the reason. It is not the reason why we have
people holding up common sense gun reform. The Second Amendment
is not the reason because if the Second Amendment was
all encompassing, you would have access to drones, grenades, dirty bombs,
(40:05):
nuclear weapons if you want. You would have access to
every single potential weapon of war that the government could
employ if the Second Amendment was the reason. The reason
there is no common sense gun reform, and there is
only one reason, is because any type of delay, any
(40:25):
tiny type of delay, could hurt overall sales. Think about it.
If a tattoo shop said, yeah, I will absolutely do
that sick design on your throat, but I'm gonna make
you wait eight days before I put it on, you
could put down a ten percent deposit and come back
pay the rest and I'll put that giant butterfly across
(40:48):
your throat. George, Yes, yes. And so the reason that
there is not waiting periods or background checks or more
stringent references or training associated with gun sales that would
actually secure and repurpose our Second Amendment in a way
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that made this country as unique as it is more American.
The whole reason is because they don't want to dip
in sales. And I'm talking to every single person out
there that isn't being paid to be a politician by
the n RRA or paid to be a commercial spokesman
for the n RA. You should be scared to death
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that your politicians are paid to uphold your second Second
Amendment rights and give you access to these a R fifteens,
because it means that they can easily be paid to
do the exact opposite. You should not want your politicians
that can serve in office for the duration of their
entire lives to be making decisions about your safety based
(41:57):
on whoever is the highest bidder, Because if it turns
out that an enemy of mass profit for gun manufacturers
is the highest bidder, than guess what, your ship out
of luck. If you really care about this, if you
really care about the Second Amendment, then you should want
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people who are earnest defenders of the Second Amendment, not
earnest defenders of their ability to be reelected. And I
know there's gonna be plenty of people that say, well,
we just need to get rid of all guns, Ralph,
guess what. That's not happening. So what we're talking about
right now is limiting the access for disturbed young men,
because it's men pulling this ship. Outside of the married
(42:39):
woman in San Bernardino, it's men pulling this ship. We
need to make sure that we limit the access to
mass casualty weapons of immediate rapid carnage for eighteen to
five year old weirdo, lonely asshole men. We need to
do that for our children from twenty I would up
(43:04):
to that ero up into the d But you guys,
would the world be a better place if no one
had access to a R fifteens in the private sector?
Would the world be a better place? Would the world
be a better place if if if, if nobody had
access to guns? Period? Yes, And I'm a gun owner,
so you know I'm talking, But I'm talking about the practice,
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the practical thing, the fact that this has was used
in Las Vegas, that this was used in Buffalo. Yeah,
this was just used, dude, Dude. That's why you shouldn't
have access to rocket launchers and grenades either, Bro, because
they'd be like, oh, it's just a rocket launch, yeah,
but in the wrong hands. Well, the majority of people
(43:46):
do it properly, yeah, but some don't. And so what
are you willing to sacrifice to keep our kids safe?
I'm George Rice, or he's Ralph Fams, and this is
Rice or Bro
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