June 4, 2022 • 38 mins
LaVar Arrington and TJ Houshmandzadeh react to the latest on Deshaun Watson, after his lawyer makes a surprising public statement. The guys assess the microscope that Russell Wilson will be under in Denver in this edition of On Ya Head with James Jackson. The guys examine how they believe the AFC West might play out. Plus, what is the significance behind Kyler Murray showing up to voluntary OTAs?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we got the latest on de Shaun Watson.
If you thought it couldn't get any stranger, well then
Rusty Harton had something to say. We'll talk about that.
We'll get to that. Smiles. Garrett also weighed in on
it on your head when I got James Jackson from
Straight Facts podcast. Uh, Russell Wilson, I can't wait to
hear this, John Lynch, he's saying, Deebo Samuels, he's standing
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Sat France and reports that Trey Lance has improven. Huh,
we'll just cutch that NBA Finals. Of course, we're gonna
get reactions. My man. T J. Hudsman's outa myself, Lavarentin,
we got up on game Plex has taking the day off,
but we're gonna hold you down for the next two hours.
Let's go. You want NFL experience, then this it's the
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show for you. This is it's up on game with Labarreri, Intent,
t J. Hush, Benzana and Blaxi co Burres. Did you
hear that, LaVar Arrington, t J. Houdgs, Menzata, Plexico Furs.
It's a show with three of the best to ever
do it on and off the field, and now here's
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Pro bowlers, LaVar Arrington, t J Houshmansanna and Super Bowl
champion Plexico Furus. All right, welcome into the show. Happy
Saturday to everybody. It's up on game. I'm LaVar Arrington,
t J. Hutch Menzatta is in the house with his
hair and Flexico furs. We gave him the day off.
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You guys have helped me found at times. We'll all
eat some of hold me Down times and Flexion eats
one today, So enjoy the day off. We got a
lot to get to out there, guys. If you want
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Check us out. I want to get straight to this
guy's We got my man I Low in there for updates.
We got Ryan, we got Iowa saying, we got the crew. Uh.
First off, how how are you feeling? I do want
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to jump right into the Deshaun Watson because I am
I can't wait to hear what you have to say
your reaction to to hearing this, t j But first
and foremost, how are you feeling? Bro? How how's your
weekend going? How are you doing? I feel pretty good? Uh? Good,
weekends going pretty well. That's just weather out here, man,
really tripping me out. Overcast, you know it's not Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I don't like the overcast. Look man, like I'm in
the Pacific Northwest or something. I don't. I like the
clear skies and palm trees and flex us here. We
had a palm trees that we don't have a clear
skies Outside of that, I'm great, right, well good, you know,
and I'm getting that same exact weather. I'm heating and
heating the pool up today. You know, I'm gonna go
ahead and take it an It ain't it's not cold.
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It just doesn't look the park, you know. Yeah, I'm
I'm gonna look more like the Locknus monster up in
there to if you did what I'm saying. Yeah, speaking
of Locknus monster. T j um the latest on Deshaun Watson. This,
I don't know. I don't want to say anything before
you hear. First of all, have you heard the sound
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bites of Rusty Hardy. I mean, I'm sure the whole
world has heard the the the sound bites of of
Rusty Harton, who is the Shaun's representation. But for those
of you who have not heard it, take a listen
to this and that I want to get t J's opinion.
I want to get his reaction to this. On the
other side of it. I don't know how many men
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are out there now that have had a massage that
perhaps occasionally there was a happy endy. I do want
to point out, if it has happened, it's not a crime.
Unless you are paying somebody extra or so to give
you some type of sexual activity. It's not a crime.
That's what we're going with. Huh, That's that's that's what
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we're going with. I can firmly say any and every
single time that I've had a professional a professional masseus
do work on me as a masseuse, there was never,
not one time and happy ending, not even close to
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their being a happy ending. So let me dispel that
myth or that rumor that everybody's doing it. What if
it wasn't a professional what it had been one? Yes,
a whole bunch like I mean, but they were not professional,
and it was in a very very different setting, in
a very different environment. So the idea of this, uh yeah,
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I just want I want your opinion on I go
you you. I'll speak for myself. When when I got massages, no,
no tea, I didn't have any happy endings. I will
say that that that's a fact. But mamas like I
wish this. My massages hurt me so bad. That was
the last thing on my mind. Like I wasn't getting
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those feel good let's go to the spot massages. I'm
getting one of the massages. While I'm lisking, bro, I'm like, bro,
if you put your elbow in that spot one more time,
that like it was. It was a painful. Yeah, you know,
one of those deep tissues. And so the first person
that really worked on me in that capacity was Alex
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Guerrero when I was seventeen, eighteen years old, and so
I was introduced to that deep tissue type massage. I've
never got to feel good massage. But I will say
I do know guys that went and got massages and
it quote unquote wasn't happy and ending with it, and
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so I'm not doing that. He that's his own that's
that's what Rusty Hard is supposed to say, because they've
admitted there was some sexual activit he involved. You you
have to come out and say, oh this, X, Y,
and Z happened, because that's already been said. The problem
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is why is it so many um again, he didn't
commit a crime. And it was crazy. I was talking
about maybe he did commit a crime because prostitute soliciting
is that's a crime. That's a crime. And and and
here's furthermore, it's a crime for both sides. They're both
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they're both culpable, they're both liable there and they're both illegal.
Me and my wife and my daughters were talking about
this the other day. It's crazy because the same little
Rusty Hart comment. We're talking about this, and I said,
criminally he's not wrong. Now you could say morally what
he's doing is wrong, Like as a person, what he's
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doing is wrong, But as far as criminally technically did nothing.
If he's trying to bring a comment that justifies him
getting sexual uh, you know, contact with the situation, and
he's trying to debate whether it's prostitution or not, or
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whether it's right or wrong, there's something that's wrong. Legally,
prostitution is wrong unless he did it somewhere where I
don't know. I know, there may be one or two
places where it's it's actually legal, I think, I don't know.
I don't know, but I believe in certain parts of Nevada.
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I mean, I was thinking that, but I wasn't sure.
But the point is is that he is addressing a
point that actually is a legal it is of there
is legalities connected to what he said. Okay, now let's uh,
let's rewind in. Let's rewind it because we actually have
somewhat of a case of this going on in the NFL.
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I don't know if you've talked about this on two
pros and a couple of jold did you guys, did
you guys discuss this? So Bob Kraft, Yeah, this happened
to him. What what was his consequences? What happened? So
that is that that's the groundwork. That is an owner
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of a National Football League team that in essence did
what you are saying Deshaun Watson did, and so Robert
Kraft technically did this. He was I believe he was
fine and it was no suspension. So I don't know
what happened to him legally though? Was there any legal
action taking? I have no idea how how that worked out.
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But but you see where I'm going with you, because
I do If it is prostitution, then okay, what what
What was the protocol with Robert Kraft? What were there
was obvious like that that. I mean, I'm assuming from
what the reports were that I've seen. I mean, I
haven't refred watched myself going I didn't know you were
going down this road just so so so so Deshaun Watson,
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uh Rusty Harden put me on the payroll. But I
just help shout. I gotta say, it might be one
of the most asinine common comments that I've ever heard
for a high profile person in my entire life. And
I gotta be honest, like, maybe you do have to
address it, but I certainly would not have addressed it
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in that manner. I just just for me, and I
would I would be dying a slow death if I
heard my representation on radio or any type of media
outlet and and it came out of his mouth the
way that it did. I mean, it's like, okay, you know,
guys are pigs there, their animals, their predators. But you
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know what all guys are in these situations. You know
when somebody, you know, when a good looking woman is
rubbing on your body and rubbing on your thighs, who
doesn't turn over and say, hey, get on in there,
go a little bit deeper, don't don't don't stop now,
Like what you are a douche bag for that, Like
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the biggest in the world for saying that to me.
That's to me. Now here's my thing. Here's here's where
I get amped up about it is you're gonna tell
me out of all them women that did it, for one,
there was a specific way as to how you engaged them.
For two, there was a specific approach to how you
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did it. And for three, you can't sit there and say,
for twenty two women, twenty three, the numbers are going
up twenty four. You're telling me twenty he chose, He
just happened to choose twenty three to twenty four women
that were just not professional. They were just not they
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were not professional. And you know what, it was going
to end a certain type of way because this professionalism
did not exist with all twenty three to twenty four
these women. That's what we're going with and how many
are reported that he had sexual relations with handful of correct,
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but we're they're all, They're all. But all of the
ones that are coming forward are basically saying the same
things as to how the approach took place, and what
what was done, and what he said and and and
and the whole entire act of it. So to me,
even if it wasn't a sexual act that ended with
all of them, that the same approach was present. The
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same approach was present. If you are going to get
a massage where you want to role play for yourself
and have your happy ending, do it with your chick.
If you got chick, you're you're a good looking dude.
Hey man, I hope he I hope you don't have
a girlfriend. And I don't know if I don't know
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if they still together. But I mean he, I mean
he had a girlfriend by the I mean the looks
of it. I mean he said it in his deposition,
I have a girlfriend. Hey, look, do it with your girlfriend. Hey.
You know what, though Rusty Harden was being so transparent
when when you said, oh if my representation had said that,
he's being very transparent because it's been admitted that's already
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been admitted that things did happen, and so he's playing
to the adult saying, listen, yes, relations took place, but
it didn't sound right. You hear what you're saying. What
you're saying, it makes sense because you have to do
something to to do representation. I guess, but that did
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not sound right, did not come off right. Can't win
with it. You can't win with it. I couldn't win
with that one. Like I heard, I cringe every single
time I hear it. I cringe when I hear that
sound bite. Y'all want to hear it again, y'all want
to hear it again. Let's play it again. I want
you to understand, like the magnitude of the diminishing of
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these these women one way or the other, right, whether
they they're right or whether they're wrong, that man's comment
diminishes every last one of those those women that that
had something to say. Here, listen to him again. I
don't know how many men are out there now that
have had a massage that perhaps occasionally there was a
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happy endy. I do want to point out, if it
has happened, it's not a crime unless you are paying
somebody extra or so to give you some type of
sexual activity. It's not a crime. The fact that he
even had to address it is crazy. But that comment
is assinine. It's an assinine comment, and I I can't
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get over that. Um I mean legitimacy or what accuracy
or what appealing to adults or what that like? Imagine
imagine if that was your daughter, was that person he's discussing,
like mask, that wouldn't that wouldn't be the case. And
that's a big reason why I try to be as
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sensitive as I can to this situation. And again we've
talked about this off the air. I got three daughters
in my responsibility to them is to make sure they
don't make these mistakes as they get older in life,
because that happens when they're younger, me telling them and
talking to them and just hopefully, But what if somebody
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felt like, what if one of them felt like they
were forced into that situation? If they told me this,
And I hate to say, LaVar, what's a scheme mask?
That's a scheme mask job right there? I mean, I
lived a long life man, longer than a lot of
people thought I would have. If they so I'll play
with house money right now. Yeah, we gotta go get it.
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I truly, I truly mean that, you know what, And
I'm gonna be right there with you. So I'm gonna
be right there with you. Maybe this is a guilty
of mention on naturally syndicated radio. But let one of
y'all suckers out there do one of my daughters or
not one of y'all suckers role like that. Man. But again,
ay they have a case, Sadie. Robert Kraft technically did this.
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He was fine. So it will be interesting to see
how this plays its course, hot runs its course and
what happens, because that's all everybody wants to see. What
the NFL is gonna What is the bottom line, What
is the punishment? That's all they care about. What is
the punishment? And so that's going to be interesting on
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how Roger Goodell in the National Football League navigate through that.
Considering an owner was in a similar situation should be
interesting and this show will continue to get interesting. We
got James Jackson coming up Straight Fact podcast. He's gonna
get on Russell Wilson's head. I'm interested to hear what
that's all about. Later on in the show. Uh, we're
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gonna have some reaction to the NBA Finals, and John
Lynch had some interesting things to say about Deebo Samuel.
We'll get to all of that and more. You're listening
up on game I'm LaVar Rington. That's t J Hutchmans
out of Plexico's got to day. We'll be right back,
welcome back in up on game later on and in
a few moments where we're later on, we're gonna talk
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NBA Finals reactions and and hit into Game two. I
was blown away by that game one, um, and we're
gonna get to on your head in just a moment,
But first we're gonna take it to my man I
Low Isaac lowin Crown the legend for some trending. What
we got, Hello LaVar Hello t J. Have you guys
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six one, she led five three in the second set,
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and here's the call of championship point from Gig Salmon
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number one. She is unstoppable right now. Indeed, Fiontech is
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You could have, but you didn't. And that's the key,
not at all, because you two are gentlemen, aren't you
talking about tennis? You know, I'm a big fan of tennis.
I know, if you know me, you know I love tennis.
(17:39):
I I know. I mean, you're you're you're well known
around the southern California community for your tennis document. That's right,
well my resume. Maybe. I mean you and I played
doubles just a couple of weeks ago. There you go.
You did, you did much of the work. I just
stood around the nut and pretended to like wildly swing.
There's a lot of ways we could have took this.
I let again, we're talking about right because you two
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are gentlemen. Sherian Tech has now one thirty five consecutive matches.
Interesting development in a developing story in the world of
golf because Kevin Nah announced today that he has resigned
from the p g A Tour after nineteen years. The
thirty eight year old Nah listed in the field for
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So that's a new development and a developing story there
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in the golf world. In Major League Baseball, to New
York Yankees today reinstated John Carlos Stanton from the ten
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for them today against the Detroit Tiger's first pitch at
one oh five eastern. And that's what's trending right now.
Back to the two best gentlemen that I know, lare
and appreciate that. And speaking of best gentlemen, let's get
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on your head now. It's I'm on your head with
James Jackson. All right, what's you got, what's you gap?
What's going on? What's going on? I'm sorry, I'm sorry
to repeating myself. I know I talked about it a lot,
but I really can't get over how good the a
f C West could potentially beat this upcoming season. I mean,
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it seems like every team is gonna come in with
a little bit of something approved, doesn't it. But individually,
when I look at it, I'm not sure any player
is going to be more under a microscope than that
new quarterback for the Denver Broncos. That's right, Russell Wilson.
I'm on your head man now. He's going from the
a f C West, or from the NFC West to
the a f C West, So we know this guy's
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no stranger. Are playing ball on the West coast, right,
but it's a whole different beach he's going into now
because of how good this division could be. He's gonna
have to come in and win games quickly or can
get real dangerous out here. Re ft And last season
for Russell Wilson was a little shakey baby, but he
got with a lot in Seattle right, dealt with injuries
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to himself and to his team, dealt with a lot
of off the field issues with DK Metcalf as well.
So he played only fourteen games go in front of
the four thousand yards and ultimately only winning six games.
They missed the playoffs. So it's not what you really
want to see from your franchise quarterback. So let's just
say he had a lot of people sleep was in
Seattle last year. But now we're in Denver with a
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revamped offense and a good defense. Expectations are a mileha
because for the past few seasons the Broncos have really
been the cast the ways of the a f C West.
But now they got their Wolfson. So let's see how
he helps. No crush or anything. Russ all right, I
gotta tell you how many how many people think? How
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many people do you think got the I like that
the cast away, the Wilson that was that was that
was clever, clever, It was good. It was good, and
he might be that floating ball in the water before
it's all sit and done. I think it's gonna be
hard for Denver to have a crazy change or turnaround
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or jump in success, even with the edition of Russell Wilson.
I do, and I think that that scrutiny that you're
talking about, there's two ways this can go. One it
could end up being a a an amazing year where
Russ is up for m v P and finally may
get the look or the not the go ahead, or
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it could go terribly wrong. It could go terribly wrong
and then you start to see cracks or or you
can have criticisms that you may not have had before.
As it applies to Russell Wilson, I mean, I just
I'm I'm I'm sitting here and I'm saying to myself,
Jordan Herbert, if I had my choice between Jordan Herbert
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and Justin Justin, that's my cousin, Uh, Justin Herbert, Justin
Herbert and um and and Russell Wilson. Right now today,
I'm taking Herbert man people. I had people say they
were taking and I'm talking people that dude is for
a living, said they're taking Herbert over. Patrick Mahomes. Think
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about that. I think I told him they were crazy,
but they might not be. But but they might not be.
It might turn into a debate this year. I don't
know what they're gonna do, what he's gonna do without
Tyreek Hill. I just know the boys bad. I know
that Patrick Mahomes is bad. I know that Jordan Herbert
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is bad. So now the debate becomes between the two dudes,
the car and Wilson, right, like, I'm not debating who
the top two quarterbacks are and something I'd be sitting
there like that's crazy to think that you would take
him over Russell Wilson. But where I stand today, Yes,
I'm looking at Herbert and I'm looking at my homes
as the to to most elites, where do what? The
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debates for me starts with who are you? Who are
you looking at the lead their team back? Could it
be a case of and J J spoke it is?
Could it be a case of, Yeah, Russell Wilson was
a roller coaster somewhat offensively in Seattle, But could it
be a case of his head coach putting him on
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that roller coaster the way that he wants to play football?
I'm talking Pete Carroll. Could that be part of the
reason why it was the abs and the flows of
Russell Wilson offensively because Pete wants to run the ball,
play good defense. Those days are long gone, less sense
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and so could that be a big reason why Russ
hasn't been as consistent as you would have liked? Whose
fault is that? Who is that? On? Is that on
Russ or is that on the coaches? Man? If a
coach calls the play, you're running to play. I mean
just go look at the offensive coordinators that Seattle had success,
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but they ran through offensive coordinators. There's a reason why.
So it can't be the offensive coordinators every single time. Know,
this is the thing. Pete Carroll wants to play football
in a certain way, and as offensive coordinator, you get
in the rhythm. You're getting the flow. Play that play,
this play that play and did you get somebody in
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your ear? Here's here's a question I have for you.
When you look at the way the Broncos are structured
as a team, especially on the offensive end, and the
way Shatta was, you're still looking at what could be
and should be a really good running game for Denver,
right with that two headed monster in the backfield and
a team that could use to the lean on the
play action a lot a lot with Seattle did like
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could their offense is not mirror each other a little bit?
Are you expecting to look completely different? I expect him
to look different because I the head coach has a
different mindset. Your mindset is the most they approached football deep.
I mean offensively a different way. Hackett and Pete Currow
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they approached the game differently from an offensive perspective, t J.
Based off everything that you're saying, is it possible. Is
it possible that Pete Carroll knew the combination and knew
the recipe for Russ to get the most out of
what he was capable of doing, and that and that
team getting the most that they were capable of doing,
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And once they lost that balance of what it was,
then now you haven't seen them win at that level
ever since that took place. It's it's very possible. But
once they couldn't dominate you on defense, Yes, you had
to have offense. You had to have more offense, and
they didn't have it. They have not had it, and
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he had, He had Tyler Lockett, He just had dk
Metcalf for for an amount of time. Like their offensive
line has been questionable, but there was more than enough
pieces in place that that in some cases you could
say are comparable if not better than what they had
right and if they were better defensively, he would have
won more games. And that's what I'm saying. Yes, offensively,
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they they did have good pieces. He didn't have much
of a running game, not a consistent running game. But
when you got DK and Tyler Lockey, you got guys
outside that can get it done. You've got Jerry, Judy
Sutton Um, your boyfriend Penn State that's coming off injury.
So you have pieces. But defensively, you assume Denver will
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be better than what Seattle was. They won't be the
Legion of Doom or Legion of Doom, Legion the Boom,
but they'll be They'll be better. They might be the
legion of doom. You honestly, and and in in the
a f C West, we're talking about the AFC West here,
so good, you're talking. You're talking justin Herbert. He ain't
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even been in the playoffs. Chat. Okay, but at least
he's trending and seemingly trending in the right direction. I
don't know what I get. I think so I believe
so as well. This this is the best efficient in football.
This this just have a good defense, Jake. Not in
an f C West. You have got to have an
amazing defense, or your offense has to be so high
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octane that it can get to fifty sixty points during
the course of the game. All Right, on paper, the
Charges might have the best team in the National Football
League on paper. Defensively, you got two ends that can rush,
you got good linebackers. You're really good in the secondary.
Sneake Las Vegas did the same exact. I'm wondering why
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people are so sleep on the Raiders for those two
points and you just made t J and then requiring
the best receiver in football for you know, you know,
you know you you you know why, and they know
each other from the thing. If I ask you to
name the Raiders secondary, can you that's the difference? Yeah?
They got Max Crosby up front, they got they got
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up they got him and Jones. They got Max Crosby,
Challenge Jones. Second secondary in the Charge of Charges got
Bosa mac Oh. They also have J. C. Jackson and
Saudi seven, Chris Harrison, Derman James. So you see how
I name that secondary that quick? And when I say
named the Raiders, it's like, I mean, that doesn't mean
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they're not good. That just just haven't paid that much
attention to them. They're just not proving I didn't do
my homework on them. No, it's just that they're not
as proving it. Everybody in the league can play. They
got on and and Charles Winson and so that to
me that that's the difference in the Chargers and other teams. Okay,
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so here we can paper. They have no weakness. So
here we go, and we'll start with you, James, give
me the order of finish. Let's let's let's let's let's
let's let it all hang out, let them let them hang.
Give me the order of finish a f C West
what I when I look at the you have to
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start with the quarterbacks because it's the best division of
football with the best quarterback play in the NFL for
of average quarterbacks. Seeing their team, I'm very high on
the Raiders. We talked about how they beat the Charges,
are going to playoffs last year. They made their team
a lot better. I don't see a team knocking the
Chiefs off the top of the middle right now. So
I'm going, if I have the choose right now, Kansas City,
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Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Denver is my hierarchy of the
I the chooses right now. They ended last year all right,
So you're going, who would say it again? Kansas City,
Kansas City, Las Vegas, Los Angeles in Denver, and that
gap of team Kansas City in Las Vegas isn't as
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big as as people are going to perceive it to be.
Truly believe that I'm high on the Raiders. You got, man,
I'm gonna get you an answer. This answer gonna change tomorrow, truthfully. Yeah,
like when you I would go Denver. Oh wow, the
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charge Kansas City Las Vegas. I mean, you lose Tyron Matthews.
That's the biggest You took it out of my mouth.
You took that out of it. Listen, that might be
the single outside of Tyreek Hill leaving. You lose Tyron Matthew.
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You you lost the heart and soul of your defense.
I mean you. You you bring in Justin Reid who
can play? You lost the heart and soul to Tyrn
Matthew brings so much that you can't. It's not excess
and ows just his leadership, his ability to understand the
game of football like he he brings that, and it's
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proven that's going to hurt them. Teams are going to play, dude.
I tell I said this all the time. Nobody will
play the Kansas City Chiefs the way the Buffalo Bills did,
including the Bills. Moving forward, without Tyreek Hill on that
team with thirteen, I can slap that game is different
the Chiefs on advance because they're not going to play
them the same way they played them. People teams aren't
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as afraid of of the Chiefs as they were before.
Tyreek Hill literally had teams playing the Chiefs different yards,
forty yards. One player did that. But you just talked
about how bad Katrick Mahomes just he's batman s. You
don't you don't think that he's good enough. I think
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I think they'll figure I think figured out, but I
think they's good. They struggle mightily this year. Tyreek Hill
he's good. But when you don't, when you you got
a guy like Tyreek Hill, he'll take a slant eighty
or he'll just bomb you eighty. Which one do you
want to slant eighty? Or how many receivers in the
game of football? That was two man that catched that
(31:52):
pass across the middle and go score. How many receivers
in the game of football can do that? When Tyreekill
did that against Buffalo, none will argue that they have
a speed d coming up and Nicole Hardman that may
not be Nicole Hartman. Miko Hartman can really really play,
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but due the Chiefs give him the same opportunities that
they gave Tyreek Kill. I don't think they do, because
if they would have, I mean, if they did believe
that they would have been giving him those opportunities. He
Miko hartmaking play. Now, he's fast, not as fast Tyreek Hill.
He can run routes, he's a little taller, not as
stick But why wasn't he given those same type of opportunities.
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He wasn't afforded those Alright, alright, well, look here's my
picks and and and we appreciate you getting on Russ's
head because I thought that was a pretty That's a
pretty good Uh. That was a that was a pretty
good Willson, pretty good one. Make sure y'all check out
James Jackson on on Straight Facts podcast on up on
Game Presents Network. By the way, um, I'm going with
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I'm going with uh. I do believe this is the
year that the Raiders actually pull it out in the
a f C. West. I do believe that that the
Chiefs will end up being second. Three guys, three different picks.
We need to get I loos and watch he'll pick
somebody different for dependents first as well. Yeah, I mean
that's possible. I think that this is the year that
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that they do it. Though. I think that there's gonna
be some magic between Davante and in between car I
just I really do. And I think their defense is
going to be much improved. I don't I don't know
how good Kansas is going to be, but I do
know that they had Patrick Mahomes, so I'm not gonna
count them out. I'm gonna put them at two, and
then we're gonna go between two and three. I'm I'm
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I'm telling I'm going with with Herbert and and then
that puts Russ at the bottom. I mean and I
and that's crazy to think, but you know, that's that's
where I'm at with it. You know, like said could
change tomorrow, asked me in September, is going to tomorrow?
I'm a I'm a marry. I'm a marry up to
it unless a significant happening, injury, somebody gets let goes,
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whatever may happen. But that's that's what I'm gonna go with.
We appreciate you coming on j J and and tell
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(34:50):
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that are going on on presents. So uh, right now,
let's let's let's talk about Uh, let's talk about Kyler
Murray right now. Bro, Like, I mean, he shows up,
he shows up to UM, shows up to practice. Everybody
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made a big deal about him not being at O
T A S. How do you feel about this? I
mean to me, t J. I gotta be honest with you,
it's kind of a big to do about nothing. UM.
I know we touched on Lamar Jackson last weekend about
that scenario. Um, Ryan, do you have do you have
a do you have a uh, you know a headline
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that that kind of puts this into perspective for the
Kyler Murray a parents in in Arizona, just that he
did in fact show up to voluntary ot as this
last week and has been working with this team. Okay,
so what what's your takeaway from this? T J. Does
that mean that there's there's a contract in the works,
doesn't mean that, you know, he just didn't feel like
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showing up when he didn't show up and and now
is back like what you think it could be. Just that, man,
this is when when it comes to O. T. A.
S And the position of quarterback, you need to be president.
You need to be president because, as you know, if
you're not president, guys in the locker room, we're talking
(36:17):
about it. Bro, he ain't here, he piste off. Yeah
he mad, and then somebody that's really cool, Yeah yeah,
I talked to him. He he mad, And so that's
all guys are gonna talk about. Then you have to
answer questions about that you don't you don't want answer,
just let him answer it. And so I believe when
you're the quarterback of a football team, you need to
be there because the team changes every year. You want
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to get to know the guys that are new and
continue to solidify relationships with the guys that you know.
And so I just have a hard time when the
quarterback isn't there, when a starter, when a perceived leader
on the team isn't there. And I was one of
those guys the label when I got later in my career,
I didn't always attend O t s, but I attended
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some of them because it's somewhat of requirement to be there.
We all know this is a voluntary, mandatory type of situation,
and when you're a leader on the team, especially the quarterback,
you need to be present. Well, they need to have
him because I'll tell you what, John Lynch has Deebo
Samuel staying in San Francisco that that report has come out,
He has made it abundantly clear that they have no
(37:25):
intentions of letting Debo go. And reports are coming out
that tray lance is improving. So that's gonna be interesting
to see because now you're talking about Kyler Murray is
in camp, so perceivably everything is gonna be good in Arizona. Uh,
It'll be interesting to see if Aaron Donald returns. I
think he will. You know, he just signed with Donda Sports,
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So shouts out to Kanye and Donda Sports over there
getting uh some some pretty big, um, pretty big names
with their first two gets and Aaron Donald being none
bigger than that. Uh, but they at the NFC West
is gonna be tremendous. That's gonna be a very very
competitive uh division as well, So it'd be interesting to
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see where where the whole Kyler Murray's situation goes. Um, yeah,
all right, we got a lot of big things to
get to. Uh. We still have the NBA, so they
we're gonna talk to us. We're gonna talk a few
different things. In fact, after this break, I'm gonna tease
y'all on what we're gonna talk about on our two.
This is our one of up on game. Hope you've
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All right, we got the latest on de Shaun Watson.
If you thought it couldn't get any stranger, well then
Rusty Harton had something to say. We'll talk about that.
We'll get to that. Smiles. Garrett also weighed in on
it on your head when I got James Jackson from
Straight Facts podcast. Uh, Russell Wilson, I can't wait to
hear this, John Lynch, he's saying, Deebo Samuels, he's standing
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Sat France and reports that Trey Lance has improven. Huh,
we'll just cutch that NBA Finals. Of course, we're gonna
get reactions. My man. T J. Hudsman's outa myself, Lavarentin,
we got up on game Plex has taking the day off,
but we're gonna hold you down for the next two hours.
Let's go. You want NFL experience, then this it's the
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Check us out. I want to get straight to this
guy's We got my man I Low in there for updates.
We got Ryan, we got Iowa saying, we got the crew. Uh.
First off, how how are you feeling? I do want
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to jump right into the Deshaun Watson because I am
I can't wait to hear what you have to say
your reaction to to hearing this, t j But first
and foremost, how are you feeling? Bro? How how's your
weekend going? How are you doing? I feel pretty good? Uh? Good,
weekends going pretty well. That's just weather out here, man,
really tripping me out. Overcast, you know it's not Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(02:33):
I don't like the overcast. Look man, like I'm in
the Pacific Northwest or something. I don't. I like the
clear skies and palm trees and flex us here. We
had a palm trees that we don't have a clear
skies Outside of that, I'm great, right, well good, you know,
and I'm getting that same exact weather. I'm heating and
heating the pool up today. You know, I'm gonna go
ahead and take it an It ain't it's not cold.
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It just doesn't look the park, you know. Yeah, I'm
I'm gonna look more like the Locknus monster up in
there to if you did what I'm saying. Yeah, speaking
of Locknus monster. T j um the latest on Deshaun Watson. This,
I don't know. I don't want to say anything before
you hear. First of all, have you heard the sound
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bites of Rusty Hardy. I mean, I'm sure the whole
world has heard the the the sound bites of of
Rusty Harton, who is the Shaun's representation. But for those
of you who have not heard it, take a listen
to this and that I want to get t J's opinion.
I want to get his reaction to this. On the
other side of it. I don't know how many men
(03:35):
are out there now that have had a massage that
perhaps occasionally there was a happy endy. I do want
to point out, if it has happened, it's not a crime.
Unless you are paying somebody extra or so to give
you some type of sexual activity. It's not a crime.
That's what we're going with. Huh, That's that's that's what
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we're going with. I can firmly say any and every
single time that I've had a professional a professional masseus
do work on me as a masseuse, there was never,
not one time and happy ending, not even close to
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their being a happy ending. So let me dispel that
myth or that rumor that everybody's doing it. What if
it wasn't a professional what it had been one? Yes,
a whole bunch like I mean, but they were not professional,
and it was in a very very different setting, in
a very different environment. So the idea of this, uh yeah,
(04:43):
I just want I want your opinion on I go
you you. I'll speak for myself. When when I got massages, no,
no tea, I didn't have any happy endings. I will
say that that that's a fact. But mamas like I
wish this. My massages hurt me so bad. That was
the last thing on my mind. Like I wasn't getting
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those feel good let's go to the spot massages. I'm
getting one of the massages. While I'm lisking, bro, I'm like, bro,
if you put your elbow in that spot one more time,
that like it was. It was a painful. Yeah, you know,
one of those deep tissues. And so the first person
that really worked on me in that capacity was Alex
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Guerrero when I was seventeen, eighteen years old, and so
I was introduced to that deep tissue type massage. I've
never got to feel good massage. But I will say
I do know guys that went and got massages and
it quote unquote wasn't happy and ending with it, and
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so I'm not doing that. He that's his own that's
that's what Rusty Hard is supposed to say, because they've
admitted there was some sexual activit he involved. You you
have to come out and say, oh this, X, Y,
and Z happened, because that's already been said. The problem
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is why is it so many um again, he didn't
commit a crime. And it was crazy. I was talking
about maybe he did commit a crime because prostitute soliciting
is that's a crime. That's a crime. And and and
here's furthermore, it's a crime for both sides. They're both
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they're both culpable, they're both liable there and they're both illegal.
Me and my wife and my daughters were talking about
this the other day. It's crazy because the same little
Rusty Hart comment. We're talking about this, and I said,
criminally he's not wrong. Now you could say morally what
he's doing is wrong, Like as a person, what he's
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doing is wrong, But as far as criminally technically did nothing.
If he's trying to bring a comment that justifies him
getting sexual uh, you know, contact with the situation, and
he's trying to debate whether it's prostitution or not, or
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whether it's right or wrong, there's something that's wrong. Legally,
prostitution is wrong unless he did it somewhere where I
don't know. I know, there may be one or two
places where it's it's actually legal, I think, I don't know.
I don't know, but I believe in certain parts of Nevada.
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I mean, I was thinking that, but I wasn't sure.
But the point is is that he is addressing a
point that actually is a legal it is of there
is legalities connected to what he said. Okay, now let's uh,
let's rewind in. Let's rewind it because we actually have
somewhat of a case of this going on in the NFL.
(07:59):
I don't know if you've talked about this on two
pros and a couple of jold did you guys, did
you guys discuss this? So Bob Kraft, Yeah, this happened
to him. What what was his consequences? What happened? So
that is that that's the groundwork. That is an owner
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of a National Football League team that in essence did
what you are saying Deshaun Watson did, and so Robert
Kraft technically did this. He was I believe he was
fine and it was no suspension. So I don't know
what happened to him legally though? Was there any legal
action taking? I have no idea how how that worked out.
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But but you see where I'm going with you, because
I do If it is prostitution, then okay, what what
What was the protocol with Robert Kraft? What were there
was obvious like that that. I mean, I'm assuming from
what the reports were that I've seen. I mean, I
haven't refred watched myself going I didn't know you were
going down this road just so so so so Deshaun Watson,
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uh Rusty Harden put me on the payroll. But I
just help shout. I gotta say, it might be one
of the most asinine common comments that I've ever heard
for a high profile person in my entire life. And
I gotta be honest, like, maybe you do have to
address it, but I certainly would not have addressed it
(09:29):
in that manner. I just just for me, and I
would I would be dying a slow death if I
heard my representation on radio or any type of media
outlet and and it came out of his mouth the
way that it did. I mean, it's like, okay, you know,
guys are pigs there, their animals, their predators. But you
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know what all guys are in these situations. You know
when somebody, you know, when a good looking woman is
rubbing on your body and rubbing on your thighs, who
doesn't turn over and say, hey, get on in there,
go a little bit deeper, don't don't don't stop now,
Like what you are a douche bag for that, Like
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the biggest in the world for saying that to me.
That's to me. Now here's my thing. Here's here's where
I get amped up about it is you're gonna tell
me out of all them women that did it, for one,
there was a specific way as to how you engaged them.
For two, there was a specific approach to how you
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did it. And for three, you can't sit there and say,
for twenty two women, twenty three, the numbers are going
up twenty four. You're telling me twenty he chose, He
just happened to choose twenty three to twenty four women
that were just not professional. They were just not they
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were not professional. And you know what, it was going
to end a certain type of way because this professionalism
did not exist with all twenty three to twenty four
these women. That's what we're going with and how many
are reported that he had sexual relations with handful of correct,
(11:15):
but we're they're all, They're all. But all of the
ones that are coming forward are basically saying the same
things as to how the approach took place, and what
what was done, and what he said and and and
and the whole entire act of it. So to me,
even if it wasn't a sexual act that ended with
all of them, that the same approach was present. The
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same approach was present. If you are going to get
a massage where you want to role play for yourself
and have your happy ending, do it with your chick.
If you got chick, you're you're a good looking dude.
Hey man, I hope he I hope you don't have
a girlfriend. And I don't know if I don't know
(11:58):
if they still together. But I mean he, I mean
he had a girlfriend by the I mean the looks
of it. I mean he said it in his deposition,
I have a girlfriend. Hey, look, do it with your girlfriend. Hey.
You know what, though Rusty Harden was being so transparent
when when you said, oh if my representation had said that,
he's being very transparent because it's been admitted that's already
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been admitted that things did happen, and so he's playing
to the adult saying, listen, yes, relations took place, but
it didn't sound right. You hear what you're saying. What
you're saying, it makes sense because you have to do
something to to do representation. I guess, but that did
(12:42):
not sound right, did not come off right. Can't win
with it. You can't win with it. I couldn't win
with that one. Like I heard, I cringe every single
time I hear it. I cringe when I hear that
sound bite. Y'all want to hear it again, y'all want
to hear it again. Let's play it again. I want
you to understand, like the magnitude of the diminishing of
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these these women one way or the other, right, whether
they they're right or whether they're wrong, that man's comment
diminishes every last one of those those women that that
had something to say. Here, listen to him again. I
don't know how many men are out there now that
have had a massage that perhaps occasionally there was a
(13:24):
happy endy. I do want to point out, if it
has happened, it's not a crime unless you are paying
somebody extra or so to give you some type of
sexual activity. It's not a crime. The fact that he
even had to address it is crazy. But that comment
is assinine. It's an assinine comment, and I I can't
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get over that. Um I mean legitimacy or what accuracy
or what appealing to adults or what that like? Imagine
imagine if that was your daughter, was that person he's discussing,
like mask, that wouldn't that wouldn't be the case. And
that's a big reason why I try to be as
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sensitive as I can to this situation. And again we've
talked about this off the air. I got three daughters
in my responsibility to them is to make sure they
don't make these mistakes as they get older in life,
because that happens when they're younger, me telling them and
talking to them and just hopefully, But what if somebody
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felt like, what if one of them felt like they
were forced into that situation? If they told me this,
And I hate to say, LaVar, what's a scheme mask?
That's a scheme mask job right there? I mean, I
lived a long life man, longer than a lot of
people thought I would have. If they so I'll play
with house money right now. Yeah, we gotta go get it.
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I truly, I truly mean that, you know what, And
I'm gonna be right there with you. So I'm gonna
be right there with you. Maybe this is a guilty
of mention on naturally syndicated radio. But let one of
y'all suckers out there do one of my daughters or
not one of y'all suckers role like that. Man. But again,
ay they have a case, Sadie. Robert Kraft technically did this.
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He was fine. So it will be interesting to see
how this plays its course, hot runs its course and
what happens, because that's all everybody wants to see. What
the NFL is gonna What is the bottom line, What
is the punishment? That's all they care about. What is
the punishment? And so that's going to be interesting on
(15:31):
how Roger Goodell in the National Football League navigate through that.
Considering an owner was in a similar situation should be
interesting and this show will continue to get interesting. We
got James Jackson coming up Straight Fact podcast. He's gonna
get on Russell Wilson's head. I'm interested to hear what
that's all about. Later on in the show. Uh, we're
(15:52):
gonna have some reaction to the NBA Finals, and John
Lynch had some interesting things to say about Deebo Samuel.
We'll get to all of that and more. You're listening
up on game I'm LaVar Rington. That's t J Hutchmans
out of Plexico's got to day. We'll be right back,
welcome back in up on game later on and in
a few moments where we're later on, we're gonna talk
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NBA Finals reactions and and hit into Game two. I
was blown away by that game one, um, and we're
gonna get to on your head in just a moment,
But first we're gonna take it to my man I
Low Isaac lowin Crown the legend for some trending. What
we got, Hello LaVar Hello t J. Have you guys
ever heard tennis play by play on the radio? Not
(16:35):
on the radio? Well, you're in luck because we've got
the ladies singles final of the French Open. This is
world number one Egavontek of Poland taking on Coco Golf,
eighteen year old from the United States, and here was
championship point. After she Beyon Tech won the first set
six one, she led five three in the second set,
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and here's the call of championship point from Gig Salmon
on rolland Garros Radio, thero back to reach up in
the Servit Championship point out why the fuehand from golf
is deep. It's too deep, and Fiontech screams, and she's
down on her knees and the rolling garrols clay a
massive span on the face of KOs Fiontech, the world
(17:19):
number one. She is unstoppable right now. Indeed, Fiontech is
now so many different directions. We could have took that
in Ilo, but let's stay on let's stay on top.
You could have, but you didn't. And that's the key,
not at all, because you two are gentlemen, aren't you
talking about tennis? You know, I'm a big fan of tennis.
I know, if you know me, you know I love tennis.
(17:39):
I I know. I mean, you're you're you're well known
around the southern California community for your tennis document. That's right,
well my resume. Maybe. I mean you and I played
doubles just a couple of weeks ago. There you go.
You did, you did much of the work. I just
stood around the nut and pretended to like wildly swing.
There's a lot of ways we could have took this.
I let again, we're talking about right because you two
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are gentlemen. Sherian Tech has now one thirty five consecutive matches.
Interesting development in a developing story in the world of
golf because Kevin Nah announced today that he has resigned
from the p g A Tour after nineteen years. The
thirty eight year old Nah listed in the field for
an event next week in the new Live Golf Tour.
So that's a new development and a developing story there
(18:25):
in the golf world. In Major League Baseball, to New
York Yankees today reinstated John Carlos Stanton from the ten
day injured list. Stanton in their lineup back clean up
for them today against the Detroit Tiger's first pitch at
one oh five eastern. And that's what's trending right now.
Back to the two best gentlemen that I know, lare
and appreciate that. And speaking of best gentlemen, let's get
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on your head now. It's I'm on your head with
James Jackson. All right, what's you got, what's you gap?
What's going on? What's going on? I'm sorry, I'm sorry
to repeating myself. I know I talked about it a lot,
but I really can't get over how good the a
f C West could potentially beat this upcoming season. I mean,
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it seems like every team is gonna come in with
a little bit of something approved, doesn't it. But individually,
when I look at it, I'm not sure any player
is going to be more under a microscope than that
new quarterback for the Denver Broncos. That's right, Russell Wilson.
I'm on your head man now. He's going from the
a f C West, or from the NFC West to
the a f C West, So we know this guy's
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no stranger. Are playing ball on the West coast, right,
but it's a whole different beach he's going into now
because of how good this division could be. He's gonna
have to come in and win games quickly or can
get real dangerous out here. Re ft And last season
for Russell Wilson was a little shakey baby, but he
got with a lot in Seattle right, dealt with injuries
(19:53):
to himself and to his team, dealt with a lot
of off the field issues with DK Metcalf as well.
So he played only fourteen games go in front of
the four thousand yards and ultimately only winning six games.
They missed the playoffs. So it's not what you really
want to see from your franchise quarterback. So let's just
say he had a lot of people sleep was in
Seattle last year. But now we're in Denver with a
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revamped offense and a good defense. Expectations are a mileha
because for the past few seasons the Broncos have really
been the cast the ways of the a f C West.
But now they got their Wolfson. So let's see how
he helps. No crush or anything. Russ all right, I
gotta tell you how many how many people think? How
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many people do you think got the I like that
the cast away, the Wilson that was that was that
was clever, clever, It was good. It was good, and
he might be that floating ball in the water before
it's all sit and done. I think it's gonna be
hard for Denver to have a crazy change or turnaround
(20:57):
or jump in success, even with the edition of Russell Wilson.
I do, and I think that that scrutiny that you're
talking about, there's two ways this can go. One it
could end up being a a an amazing year where
Russ is up for m v P and finally may
get the look or the not the go ahead, or
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it could go terribly wrong. It could go terribly wrong
and then you start to see cracks or or you
can have criticisms that you may not have had before.
As it applies to Russell Wilson, I mean, I just
I'm I'm I'm sitting here and I'm saying to myself,
Jordan Herbert, if I had my choice between Jordan Herbert
(21:40):
and Justin Justin, that's my cousin, Uh, Justin Herbert, Justin
Herbert and um and and Russell Wilson. Right now today,
I'm taking Herbert man people. I had people say they
were taking and I'm talking people that dude is for
a living, said they're taking Herbert over. Patrick Mahomes. Think
(22:03):
about that. I think I told him they were crazy,
but they might not be. But but they might not be.
It might turn into a debate this year. I don't
know what they're gonna do, what he's gonna do without
Tyreek Hill. I just know the boys bad. I know
that Patrick Mahomes is bad. I know that Jordan Herbert
(22:23):
is bad. So now the debate becomes between the two dudes,
the car and Wilson, right, like, I'm not debating who
the top two quarterbacks are and something I'd be sitting
there like that's crazy to think that you would take
him over Russell Wilson. But where I stand today, Yes,
I'm looking at Herbert and I'm looking at my homes
as the to to most elites, where do what? The
(22:45):
debates for me starts with who are you? Who are
you looking at the lead their team back? Could it
be a case of and J J spoke it is?
Could it be a case of, Yeah, Russell Wilson was
a roller coaster somewhat offensively in Seattle, But could it
be a case of his head coach putting him on
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that roller coaster the way that he wants to play football?
I'm talking Pete Carroll. Could that be part of the
reason why it was the abs and the flows of
Russell Wilson offensively because Pete wants to run the ball,
play good defense. Those days are long gone, less sense
(23:27):
and so could that be a big reason why Russ
hasn't been as consistent as you would have liked? Whose
fault is that? Who is that? On? Is that on
Russ or is that on the coaches? Man? If a
coach calls the play, you're running to play. I mean
just go look at the offensive coordinators that Seattle had success,
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but they ran through offensive coordinators. There's a reason why.
So it can't be the offensive coordinators every single time. Know,
this is the thing. Pete Carroll wants to play football
in a certain way, and as offensive coordinator, you get
in the rhythm. You're getting the flow. Play that play,
this play that play and did you get somebody in
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your ear? Here's here's a question I have for you.
When you look at the way the Broncos are structured
as a team, especially on the offensive end, and the
way Shatta was, you're still looking at what could be
and should be a really good running game for Denver,
right with that two headed monster in the backfield and
a team that could use to the lean on the
play action a lot a lot with Seattle did like
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could their offense is not mirror each other a little bit?
Are you expecting to look completely different? I expect him
to look different because I the head coach has a
different mindset. Your mindset is the most they approached football deep.
I mean offensively a different way. Hackett and Pete Currow
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they approached the game differently from an offensive perspective, t J.
Based off everything that you're saying, is it possible. Is
it possible that Pete Carroll knew the combination and knew
the recipe for Russ to get the most out of
what he was capable of doing, and that and that
team getting the most that they were capable of doing,
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And once they lost that balance of what it was,
then now you haven't seen them win at that level
ever since that took place. It's it's very possible. But
once they couldn't dominate you on defense, Yes, you had
to have offense. You had to have more offense, and
they didn't have it. They have not had it, and
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he had, He had Tyler Lockett, He just had dk
Metcalf for for an amount of time. Like their offensive
line has been questionable, but there was more than enough
pieces in place that that in some cases you could
say are comparable if not better than what they had
right and if they were better defensively, he would have
won more games. And that's what I'm saying. Yes, offensively,
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they they did have good pieces. He didn't have much
of a running game, not a consistent running game. But
when you got DK and Tyler Lockey, you got guys
outside that can get it done. You've got Jerry, Judy
Sutton Um, your boyfriend Penn State that's coming off injury.
So you have pieces. But defensively, you assume Denver will
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be better than what Seattle was. They won't be the
Legion of Doom or Legion of Doom, Legion the Boom,
but they'll be They'll be better. They might be the
legion of doom. You honestly, and and in in the
a f C West, we're talking about the AFC West here,
so good, you're talking. You're talking justin Herbert. He ain't
(26:43):
even been in the playoffs. Chat. Okay, but at least
he's trending and seemingly trending in the right direction. I
don't know what I get. I think so I believe
so as well. This this is the best efficient in football.
This this just have a good defense, Jake. Not in
an f C West. You have got to have an
amazing defense, or your offense has to be so high
(27:06):
octane that it can get to fifty sixty points during
the course of the game. All Right, on paper, the
Charges might have the best team in the National Football
League on paper. Defensively, you got two ends that can rush,
you got good linebackers. You're really good in the secondary.
Sneake Las Vegas did the same exact. I'm wondering why
(27:30):
people are so sleep on the Raiders for those two
points and you just made t J and then requiring
the best receiver in football for you know, you know,
you know you you you know why, and they know
each other from the thing. If I ask you to
name the Raiders secondary, can you that's the difference? Yeah?
They got Max Crosby up front, they got they got
(27:51):
up they got him and Jones. They got Max Crosby,
Challenge Jones. Second secondary in the Charge of Charges got
Bosa mac Oh. They also have J. C. Jackson and
Saudi seven, Chris Harrison, Derman James. So you see how
I name that secondary that quick? And when I say
named the Raiders, it's like, I mean, that doesn't mean
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they're not good. That just just haven't paid that much
attention to them. They're just not proving I didn't do
my homework on them. No, it's just that they're not
as proving it. Everybody in the league can play. They
got on and and Charles Winson and so that to
me that that's the difference in the Chargers and other teams. Okay,
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so here we can paper. They have no weakness. So
here we go, and we'll start with you, James, give
me the order of finish. Let's let's let's let's let's
let's let it all hang out, let them let them hang.
Give me the order of finish a f C West
what I when I look at the you have to
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start with the quarterbacks because it's the best division of
football with the best quarterback play in the NFL for
of average quarterbacks. Seeing their team, I'm very high on
the Raiders. We talked about how they beat the Charges,
are going to playoffs last year. They made their team
a lot better. I don't see a team knocking the
Chiefs off the top of the middle right now. So
I'm going, if I have the choose right now, Kansas City,
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Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Denver is my hierarchy of the
I the chooses right now. They ended last year all right,
So you're going, who would say it again? Kansas City,
Kansas City, Las Vegas, Los Angeles in Denver, and that
gap of team Kansas City in Las Vegas isn't as
(29:36):
big as as people are going to perceive it to be.
Truly believe that I'm high on the Raiders. You got, man,
I'm gonna get you an answer. This answer gonna change tomorrow, truthfully. Yeah,
like when you I would go Denver. Oh wow, the
(29:59):
charge Kansas City Las Vegas. I mean, you lose Tyron Matthews.
That's the biggest You took it out of my mouth.
You took that out of it. Listen, that might be
the single outside of Tyreek Hill leaving. You lose Tyron Matthew.
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You you lost the heart and soul of your defense.
I mean you. You you bring in Justin Reid who
can play? You lost the heart and soul to Tyrn
Matthew brings so much that you can't. It's not excess
and ows just his leadership, his ability to understand the
game of football like he he brings that, and it's
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proven that's going to hurt them. Teams are going to play, dude.
I tell I said this all the time. Nobody will
play the Kansas City Chiefs the way the Buffalo Bills did,
including the Bills. Moving forward, without Tyreek Hill on that
team with thirteen, I can slap that game is different
the Chiefs on advance because they're not going to play
them the same way they played them. People teams aren't
(31:08):
as afraid of of the Chiefs as they were before.
Tyreek Hill literally had teams playing the Chiefs different yards,
forty yards. One player did that. But you just talked
about how bad Katrick Mahomes just he's batman s. You
don't you don't think that he's good enough. I think
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I think they'll figure I think figured out, but I
think they's good. They struggle mightily this year. Tyreek Hill
he's good. But when you don't, when you you got
a guy like Tyreek Hill, he'll take a slant eighty
or he'll just bomb you eighty. Which one do you
want to slant eighty? Or how many receivers in the
game of football? That was two man that catched that
(31:52):
pass across the middle and go score. How many receivers
in the game of football can do that? When Tyreekill
did that against Buffalo, none will argue that they have
a speed d coming up and Nicole Hardman that may
not be Nicole Hartman. Miko Hartman can really really play,
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but due the Chiefs give him the same opportunities that
they gave Tyreek Kill. I don't think they do, because
if they would have, I mean, if they did believe
that they would have been giving him those opportunities. He
Miko hartmaking play. Now, he's fast, not as fast Tyreek Hill.
He can run routes, he's a little taller, not as
stick But why wasn't he given those same type of opportunities.
(32:37):
He wasn't afforded those Alright, alright, well, look here's my
picks and and and we appreciate you getting on Russ's
head because I thought that was a pretty That's a
pretty good Uh. That was a that was a pretty
good Willson, pretty good one. Make sure y'all check out
James Jackson on on Straight Facts podcast on up on
Game Presents Network. By the way, um, I'm going with
(33:00):
I'm going with uh. I do believe this is the
year that the Raiders actually pull it out in the
a f C. West. I do believe that that the
Chiefs will end up being second. Three guys, three different picks.
We need to get I loos and watch he'll pick
somebody different for dependents first as well. Yeah, I mean
that's possible. I think that this is the year that
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that they do it. Though. I think that there's gonna
be some magic between Davante and in between car I
just I really do. And I think their defense is
going to be much improved. I don't I don't know
how good Kansas is going to be, but I do
know that they had Patrick Mahomes, so I'm not gonna
count them out. I'm gonna put them at two, and
then we're gonna go between two and three. I'm I'm
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I'm telling I'm going with with Herbert and and then
that puts Russ at the bottom. I mean and I
and that's crazy to think, but you know, that's that's
where I'm at with it. You know, like said could
change tomorrow, asked me in September, is going to tomorrow?
I'm a I'm a marry. I'm a marry up to
it unless a significant happening, injury, somebody gets let goes,
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whatever may happen. But that's that's what I'm gonna go with.
We appreciate you coming on j J and and tell
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You can also check out up on Game Presents as
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Tommy Vincent, the wife of of Troy Vincent of the
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(34:50):
awhile and you you know we got e gaming. Yeah,
check it out. It's some some really interesting things that
that are going on on presents. So uh, right now,
let's let's let's talk about Uh, let's talk about Kyler
Murray right now. Bro, Like, I mean, he shows up,
he shows up to UM, shows up to practice. Everybody
(35:12):
made a big deal about him not being at O
T A S. How do you feel about this? I
mean to me, t J. I gotta be honest with you,
it's kind of a big to do about nothing. UM.
I know we touched on Lamar Jackson last weekend about
that scenario. Um, Ryan, do you have do you have
a do you have a uh, you know a headline
(35:35):
that that kind of puts this into perspective for the
Kyler Murray a parents in in Arizona, just that he
did in fact show up to voluntary ot as this
last week and has been working with this team. Okay,
so what what's your takeaway from this? T J. Does
that mean that there's there's a contract in the works,
doesn't mean that, you know, he just didn't feel like
(35:56):
showing up when he didn't show up and and now
is back like what you think it could be. Just that, man,
this is when when it comes to O. T. A.
S And the position of quarterback, you need to be president.
You need to be president because, as you know, if
you're not president, guys in the locker room, we're talking
(36:17):
about it. Bro, he ain't here, he piste off. Yeah
he mad, and then somebody that's really cool, Yeah yeah,
I talked to him. He he mad, And so that's
all guys are gonna talk about. Then you have to
answer questions about that you don't you don't want answer,
just let him answer it. And so I believe when
you're the quarterback of a football team, you need to
be there because the team changes every year. You want
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to get to know the guys that are new and
continue to solidify relationships with the guys that you know.
And so I just have a hard time when the
quarterback isn't there, when a starter, when a perceived leader
on the team isn't there. And I was one of
those guys the label when I got later in my career,
I didn't always attend O t s, but I attended
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some of them because it's somewhat of requirement to be there.
We all know this is a voluntary, mandatory type of situation,
and when you're a leader on the team, especially the quarterback,
you need to be present. Well, they need to have
him because I'll tell you what, John Lynch has Deebo
Samuel staying in San Francisco that that report has come out,
He has made it abundantly clear that they have no
(37:25):
intentions of letting Debo go. And reports are coming out
that tray lance is improving. So that's gonna be interesting
to see because now you're talking about Kyler Murray is
in camp, so perceivably everything is gonna be good in Arizona. Uh,
It'll be interesting to see if Aaron Donald returns. I
think he will. You know, he just signed with Donda Sports,
(37:47):
So shouts out to Kanye and Donda Sports over there
getting uh some some pretty big, um, pretty big names
with their first two gets and Aaron Donald being none
bigger than that. Uh, but they at the NFC West
is gonna be tremendous. That's gonna be a very very
competitive uh division as well, So it'd be interesting to
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see where where the whole Kyler Murray's situation goes. Um, yeah,
all right, we got a lot of big things to
get to. Uh. We still have the NBA, so they
we're gonna talk to us. We're gonna talk a few
different things. In fact, after this break, I'm gonna tease
y'all on what we're gonna talk about on our two.
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