Phillip Picardi joins Nancy to talk about his first job at McDonald's, his recent job as Anna Wintour's protégé, and his new job as editor-in-chief of Out Magazine. — Phillip Picardi is the editor-in-chief at Out Magazine. He previously served as chief content officer at Teen Vogue and them. — Phillip's response to the Women's Wear Daily article can be found on Twitter. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom, Alex Overington, BoxCat Game ("Mt Fox Shop"), and Drake Stafford ("Matte Black"). Support our work! Become a Nancy member today at nancypodcast.org/donate.