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This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you have absolutely no case. Okay. This is
a story of the Trump pardons. Donald Trump has issued
more pardons, I believe than any other president, and I
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mean quickly. Well, just day one he issued something like
fifteen hundred pardons, and this was to the January sixth
rioters who he said actually were not writing, they were
not attempting or trying to overtake the capital, they were
not trying to stop the election from moving forward. Because
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the argument is on his side, it was a fake election,
it was not real. It was rigged. So anybody who
tried to stop it therefore could not commit a crime, obviously,
especially in overturning the or overrunning the Capitol and screening
hang Mike Pence and breaking into offices and breaking into
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the chambers. So he pardoned everybody, calling them patriots straight out.
These are patriots who wanted to undo a fake election. Now,
there were a few that weren't pardoned. There were a
few who committed grievous crimes in the sense of beating
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up police officers, I mean beating them up, hitting them
with stix, hitting them with the shields they had in
one case grabbing I believe it was a fire extinguisher
and beating a cop up with that. And they were
convicted of those crimes. Well, Donald Trump pardoned two of those.
More more of those are being pardoned. One was for
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Suzanne llen k who served an eighteen month sentence for
threatening to shoot FBI agents while an investigation was going
on in to her involvement in the riots. And Daniel
Edwin also was convicted because he had unlawful firearms possession conviction.
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He had been convicted of being in possession of unlawful firearm. Well,
because he was connected, I'm assuming to the January sixth
overrunning of the capital, the attack on the Capitol, the sedition,
and a lot of them were convicted of conspiracy to
commit sedition, which is effectively interfering with the government, trying
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to overturn the government of the United States. That's what
sedition is about, or helping to overturn the government. Well,
they were pardoned. Also, I guess threats to threatening to
shoot FBI agents is not a problem as long as
you're on Donald Trump's side. As long as you are
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an ally of Donald Trump, you cannot commit a crime.
There is no such thing as crimes. You know. For example,
ahead of the cryptocurrency, the guy was convicted of hundreds
of millions of dollars that he had stolen from investors.
He was just pardoned because he's an ally of the president.
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And again, if you're not an ally, and you are,
then you are an enemy. Which is why James call
Me and Leticia James are being brought in federal crime
because the argument is that they put in Well, James
call Me lied in in Congress as to whether he
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was involved in leaking some information to the press. One
witness against him, one witness against him. It already the
case has already been dismissed for some technical reasons. They're
going to refile it. But that one crime is far
far greater. Or how about Leticia James. She lied? The
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argument is she lied on her application to buy a house,
saying she actually lived in that house when she didn't
live in the house. Therefore, that is fraud and getting
a better interest rate and defrauding the mortgage companies. That
is a federal crime of which a prosecution is going
to go full blast from the Department of Justice. Last,
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which is a far more grievous crime to the DOJ
than threatening to shoot and kill FBI agents or beating
up police officers. You know where I sit on this.
I mean, there's no question about it. And I get
emails constantly as to you're out of your mind. You're
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a wacko left wing liberal. How dare you question any
of this? All right, let's take a phone call before
we break. Here we go, Christopher, Hello Christopher, Welcome, Hello Christopher.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I love the delay we have here on the phone
because we have a delay so people don't come up
and say the wrong thing at the wrong time, and
so we can cut it out and the board, our
break can cut it out. Okay, Christopher, I'm gonna give
you one last chance. Are you there, Chris, Christopher? Okay,
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so much for Christopher. That was That was a good call.
By the way, it's better than most. I have to
tell you, it is better than most. Stello, John, Welcome
to handle on the law.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Hi Bill, Yes, sir, I state questions here. My wife
recently inherited in the state from a distant cousin that
she hardly knew, along with three other cousins. Yeah, there
was a problem there where he owned a house outright,
and then of course he had a trust account he
lived on. He never filed any taxes. We got an
attorney to take care of the house issue because there
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was somebody contesting it saying the house was given him,
and we got an attorney, took the court the judge throughout
his case. So now the house belongs to the to
the to the benefactors and my wife and cousins. Now
there's still the trust accounts there. There was enough money
there that he lived off that trust account. But you
never foiled any taxes, so I'm sure there's back taxes old.
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So uh, going before a probate court, I'm sure. Is
it necessary to maintain the attorney when all that needs
be set now is a trust account?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
No? No, No, you can appear in front of the
probate court yourself. That's not going to be a problem
and the court will order out, Like you said, any
taxes be paid, and especially if everybody agrees on one trustee,
if it is in a trust to sell everything. Otherwise,
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if the court will appoint a trustee. But again, I
don't think that this is something that I don't think
it's gonna be content unless it's being contested unless one
beneficiary is Okay, that's easy. How much money are we
talking about?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Well, I was worth about four hundred thousand to be
divided three ways, and then the trust account again, I
say there's roughly around four hundred five hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Okay, So you know, as you're talking real money, and
the judge already ruled the rule of the probe judge
ruled that the house now be put into the trust
or to be distributed among the beneficiaries. I don't know
was that pursued into a will or was that just
the probate court ruled on that because there was no
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will or trust controlling that.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Trust.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, So what you have is a house is ordered
to be sold and then distributed among the three I
assume there are three beneficiaries, correct, Is that true?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Okay, So with the three beneficiaries, now you're only talking
about four hundred thousand. Still a lot of money. One
of you can go into court, and if the other
two be named, name that trustee just goes ahead and
sell it. I don't think you need an attorney for that.
You can just do a little research because attorneys cost
a whole lot of money. That's why I went to
law school to overcharge people. You know that, frankly, that
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is the reason. This is why I got You know,
there's an essay you have to fill whenever you go
to law school. They look at this essay because you
have to write why you want to go to that
law school and why you want to be a lawyer,
et cetera. I wrote because I want to overcharge people.
I got in so quickly that your head would spin.
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So I think you're going to be okay. This is
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two zero one five three four eight hundred five two
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Gangbusters with so many phone calls, and then that's what
happens major Holidays, is you know, the phone calls taper off,
and I go through these calls very quickly. As you know,
I just don't have patience with anybody. And so if
you don't call because the caller driven show, then all
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kinds of horrible things happened to you. And we'll talk
about that if that does happen. Welcome back to handle
on the law marginal legal advice. Cindy. You've been waiting
there a few minutes. What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I have to take you up. Okay, you're off speaker.
I'm good morning and happy holidays. Calling because my forty
four year old daughter passed away rather suddenly under some
pretty suspicious circumstances and the boyfriend, the bonehead boyfriend, and
I have a feeling that foul play was involved. So
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what are my rights to medical records? Because, okay, I
got it. I'm not open an investigation. And by the way,
they only work three days a week.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Okay, all right, I got it. So was there a
was there an autopsy done?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Huhh? And was she she hold on? Has she already
buried and or cremated?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Yes? She was cremated, okay, in real short order, all right?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And who ordered that cremation?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (12:16):
The uh uh? I'm not sure. It might have been
one of her daughters she has she I have two granddaughters.
One is twenty one and when one is nineteenth, and
together they don't have the intellect of a frog.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Okay, got it. So one of the frogs or both
of the frogs asked the cremation. And yeah, I don't
know who prevails because as a mother, are you in
first place when it comes to making that decision? Don't know?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
So now, no, no, I just want to I want
access to the medical records because I understand.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
No, I understand, and that is believe me. That leads
into the question, and so you want to get access
to her medical records?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And uh was? And you say no autopsy was done.
It was straight into a creation process with your daughter.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Correct. And they would even take bl or the medical
examiner did not take blooter alcohol samples. And what the
death certificate states is different from what the bonehead boyfriend said.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It doesn't matter, it will believe me. Who do you
think is going to prevail the corner or do you
think the bonehead boyfriend is going to prevail if they're
if the laws looking at under the two. So it
doesn't matter what bonehead boyfriend says or doesn't say, And
it only matters if the police pick up the trail
on this. If they decide to investigate, they're gonna investigate.
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If they don't sendy, there's no place for you to go. Now,
can you get the medical records? Uh? Yeah, they can't.
There's some there are some uh some hurdles that have
to be overcome because medical records are under HIPPA and
they are private affairs, even have to dead people. So
the court will allow you to get medical records. Believe me,
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the hospital is not going to release those without a
court order. You can go to court and let me
ask you this. You're going to go to court and
you're saying it's suspicious circumstances. There's nothing left, there's nothing
left to examine. All you can do is take the
word of the corner. And if the corner says there's
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nothing suspicious, what does it say on the death certificate?
What is the cause of death?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
The cause of death was massive upper gi hemorrhage.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Okay, yes, and.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
The secondary one was cirrhosis of the liver.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay, And the problem is you don't have a liver
to look at. You can't say if it was upper
congenital or upper respiratory distress. Now are there medical records
out there that show there are you know, from the hospital. Again,
you can get the medical records. I think the court
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might order them, although the issue here is do they
keep them secret? Hippo law how far the hippolaws go
in maintaining the privacy. But in the end, Cindy, there's
no place for you to go because even what what if?
Speaker 5 (15:28):
What if? What if the medical records state something something
completely different.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
It doesn't matter. The coroner already made his decision or
her decision. That's what prevails. That's what prevails, and it's
you're gonna have a very very tough time. You're keep
in mind that you are talking about someone who is
licensed by the county to make those determinations, who has
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made the determination, and so you're you know, it's a
tough way to go. But that's uh, that's that's that's
the fact. Especially, I mean, let me you know, without
attacking her, and and I'm not because losing a child
no one should lose a child. Uh is who who's
going to prevail on this? Who do you think you know? Okay,
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before we bail, let me tell you about an accident
that you may get into. Uh And what do I mean? Well,
you get in a car accident, you know, have a
slipping fall happens all the time and it's not your fault.
Let's that you're rear ended or someone t bones you,
or you're out of major department store, big block store,
and all of a sudden something falls on your head.
I've gotten a few of those calls in the last
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several months. What do you do, Well, you're gonna have
a lawyer. I mean, you're not gonna do this on
your own, that's for sure. So I'm gonna suggest you
really have no choice. You have to go out and
get a lawyer to represent you, to go after these folks.
And who do you go to? I mean, look at
the number of billboards for personal injury lawyers and commercials
and ads and radio ads. It's it's hard to know
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who is good. And some of them are excellent, by
the way, some not so good, and you don't know,
which is why I created handle on the Law dot Com.
Handle on the Law dot Com is about vetted attorneys
who if there is a problem with you, the client,
then I go ahead and call the attorney. And I've
done it more than a few times. Well, actually that's
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not true. I've done it a few times over the
course of the years. And Handle on the Law dot
com has been around for a lot of years. So
if you've been injured in a car accident or slip
and fall, or something falls on your head or someone's
at fault, then I'm going to suggest you contact Handle
on the Law dot com. That's Handle on the Law
dot com. This is Handle on the Law.
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can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Let's just be on this morning about on the law.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Okay, bill, bill, Bill, Bill, Your line is absolutely horrible.
So I'm going to ask you to hang up and
call me back, okay, and I will pick up a
I'll do one phone call and then and then pick
you up. So because I knew you have an interesting
whole position, Oh there you go. All right, all right,
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Well that hell's okay, we're home free. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Okay. I heard you this morning on the radio, obviously,
and you're talking about the billboards on the highways with
all these lawyers.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
On September twenty second, twenty and twenty two, my wife
took a fall on a walk on a sidewalk that
was elevated because of our root systems, in front of
someone's house. We called one of those guys that you
hear on the radio all the time advertising and they say, hey,
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you don't have a case, and you gotta hear you're
dealing with the city or LA County or something like that.
So we didn't go forward. I heard you this morning.
I say, wait a second, you don't advertise, you don't
push your stuff. And I said to myself. I'm gonna
call Bill when I get home. That's what I'm doing.
September twenty second, twenty and twenty two. Has the time
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period passed by it's a little over three years.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, it is, because it's good for two years. That's
the problem. What I want to know. And it may
be academic, by the way, it may not matter. But
why after talking to the first attorney did you not
ask for a second opinion someplace else?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
My wife didn't want to push it.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Okay, that's fair, all right. I hear that all the time.
I talk to people that simply do not want to
go into litigation when they have been injured and it's
not their fault, and they're just not interested because you're
doing and statements have to be made, and if it
goes beyond that, then they have to be witnesses to
what happened to their own fall. So when you talk,
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let me tell you the defense they're going to have there.
It was it was buckled. Had she ever walked there before?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Almost every day?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Okay, So the argument is going to be you saw
it every day, you knew it was there, therefore you
didn't pay attention. Okay, That is a legitimate argument to make,
and so it's not just she had never been in
that place before, took a walk and all of a
sudden the sidewalk was uneven because the route had brought
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a brought part of the concrete up. So there is
a defense there. Now, how badly was she was she
smashed up?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I have about eight or ten photographs of her in
the hospital.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
No, no, I understand, but how bad I don't care about
how many photographs you have. How badly was she injured?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Her lips, her eyes, her cheeks, she was a mess though.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Okay, well, let me ask you any permanent injuries? No?
Not okay, no, okay. So there is lies the problem,
and a couple of things are happening. Lawyers work almost
just as hard in a case that's not going to
give them as much money. When you have a case
where the damages are are eh, not very much. Even
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when there is liability there. Let's say the city was
that fault, you have no problem suing. The problem is
cities defend. They just don't roll over and write checks.
So there's a couple of things that happened that was
wrong with your case. But in the end, as I said,
it may not matter that a lawyer wouldn't pick it up.
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Doubt do I know lawyers that would. I don't know
if it would pick it up. That's why I started
to handle on the law dot com for that exact reason.
You get an opinion, and if you have a lawyer,
they'll tell you you know, you're in good shape, you know,
stay where you are, and if you don't, yeah, we'll
take the case. But here are the rules that have
to be done. Within the first six months when you're
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dealing with the municipality, with a public entity, you have
to file a claim. You have to give them a
notice that you are going to sue if you don't
file that claim in the first six months, and the
statue runs two years. If you don't file that claim,
the case is over. It's done. And so the the
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relatively good news is that your wife was She wasn't
injured that badly. By the way, how ugly is she's
to start?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yes, my wife is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Okay, well that's that that helps they know. But by
the way, everybody thinks her wife is beautiful. I don't,
but everybody does. I mean, I've talked to I've talked
to blind people, who have said, my wife is beautiful,
How the hell do you know? In any case, the
better looking she is, the better her chances are to
get more money. But if it's not permanent, eh so,
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on a bunch of different reasons, you don't have anything there.
But as I said, you may not have had anything
there to begin with. So don't feel too bad except
to go to a second opinion. When one lawyer says no,
it's a question of how hard. I'm sure he wants
to work. There are lawyers out there, and again you
have no idea, and you're looking at billboards and at
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and some of these lawyers are great and you score
big time, and then some are as I said, not
so great. And it takes a lawyer who wants to
do a case. And there aren't that many lawyers that
will want to do a case if there isn't money
at the back end. They have to make money. So
you know, the good news for the injury is she's fine.
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I mean, she looked a mess when she first was
picked up off the sidewalk, but you're gonna walk into
court and she's perfect, right, she looks great and she's beautiful.
You know what's a judge or a jury going to
say under those circumstances. Phone number eight hundred five two
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more Handle on the law Marginal legal advice where I
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tell you you have no case? Jeane, let me see
if you have no case? If I can tell you,
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yes, Hi, Bill. About a year and a half ago,
my wife signed as a co signer on her friend's
car loan. And now a year and a half later,
the lady's not making her payments and the lender is
coming after us, and I'm just.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Trying to find out how do we get her off
of that loan.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Thank you for actually confirming the fact when I said,
I hope you have no case. And there you go
calling in Jeane, she promised to pay. How do you
get out of it? How do you if you if
you say I will pay if if she doesn't, I
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will pay if someone else does not, And someone else
doesn't pay and I have guaranteed it on what basis
do you ever think anybody's getting out of that? No
contract would ever be valid if that were the case.
I under where she helps her bring it current?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Is she able to help her refinance and maybe get her.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, if she has Yeah, if your wife has good credit. Yeah,
they're going to rely on your wife's credit. They're certainly
not going to rely on flake friend. But yes, I
mean they'll they'll talk about it. You can refly it.
I mean people like when you refly loans because interest
rates are high, especially on car loans, and they make
a lot of money on them. So assuming that people
have decent credit, then there's no issue at all. So yes,
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the answer is they probably will allow a refine if
the guarantee continues on. And the problem is is how
they're going after the guaranteur. Your wife, how much delayed?
How much delinquent are you from the time that you
were contacted to now four months? Well, there you go,
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it's four months which she guaranteed that there absolutely is
that no payment was made. Let me ask you, they
contacted you four months later, is that what happened?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Then you're fine?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Then you're fine. Okay, then you're fine because your wife
can say, hey, listen, I didn't even know about this
until I was contacted. Now did she make the payment
immediately to them?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Good? All of that helps enormously. Yes, your wife is
in pretty good shape credit wise, she can REFI the loan,
and she was. In terms of this friend, your wife
was not particularly bright, no matter of fact. Let me
go on that. Your wife was down right stupid. Tell
me about the relationship between the friend and your wife.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
It's tattered at best.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Okay, how many how many payments are left on that loan?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
About three more years?
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a tough one. How much is
how much was the car paid for? Well, let me
ask you this. How much money is left to pay
off three years?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Or what? How much?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You around? Yeah? Yeah, she's stuck between a rock and
a hard place. Yeah. All she can do is she's
got to pay it. She can try to refly, But
why why would she refly? Because that's going to add
time and a lot of time to it, and then
you've got to you know, it's years if the friend
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doesn't well, the ex friend doesn't pay, so you know,
I can't tell you. And there are people that I
co signed for I have co signed for, so I'm
not telling you, especially close close friends who turned out
to be liars. But thank god, it was very small money,
and in your case, it's not very small money, to
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say the least.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Diana, Hello, Diana, good afternoon. Yes, yes, good, I am calling.
I work for a hearing aid company and before they
let me go, I had ordered a pair of molds
for my hearing aids. They came out poorly. I told
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them that I did not want them, and they took
it off my payroll as ours. Okay, is that legal?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Well, I mean is it legal? I mean everything is legal,
except for crimes that are clearly illegal. The issue is
are they liable? And the answer and here's the answer
they're going to ask, and so you the only thing
you can assume them, all right, or you can actually
you can go to the Department of Labor, Department of
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Industrial Relations. I'm assuming this is California and say that
they know. I'm sorry you're there. Yeah, okay, so I'm
assuming this is the state of California.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Correct, No, it's the state of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Okay, Well, I'm going to assume the state of Michigan
has much the same rules as California does, especially when
it comes to labor law. They're all pretty good. So
what the first thing you want to do is tell
them you put the hours back on, because what you're
doing is in violation of the civil code. You're in
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violation of the law. I use the word illegal. That's
fine because that's always fun to use. And then you
say what you've done is not appropriate. You've taken my
pay If you had a problem with that, you then
asked me to pay it, you don't take it off
my payroll. That is not allowed because that's sacrisank. People
getting paid is sacrisanked in the law. That is like
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the most important thing is payroll and not screwing employees.
And then if they say no, you go ahead and
report them. You file a lawsuit in small claims court,
and you go ahead and report them to whatever labor
entity happens in the state of Michigan. How much money
do they owe you, Diana.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
It's about one hundred and seventy five all right, you.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Can sue them for one hundred and seventy five dollars incidentally,
screwing you out of one hundred and seventy five dollars
is basically the same out of screwing you for seventeen
thousand dollars as far as the law is concerned, because
you got nailed and they took money out of your pay.
So I would do it on both grounds. Sue the
company for one hundred and seventy five dollars and then
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go ahead and you complain to the labor board. Their
version of the labor board that scares you. I've had
employees I've had which I don't anymy more, thank goodness.
So I've had businesses in which I had twenty twenty
five employees depending on what time of year, and I
tell you it's you know, going to the labor board
was one of the scariest things that I could figure out.
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This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you have absolutely no case. Okay. This is
a story of the Trump pardons. Donald Trump has issued
more pardons, I believe than any other president, and I
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mean quickly. Well, just day one he issued something like
fifteen hundred pardons, and this was to the January sixth
rioters who he said actually were not writing, they were
not attempting or trying to overtake the capital, they were
not trying to stop the election from moving forward. Because
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the argument is on his side, it was a fake election,
it was not real. It was rigged. So anybody who
tried to stop it therefore could not commit a crime, obviously,
especially in overturning the or overrunning the Capitol and screening
hang Mike Pence and breaking into offices and breaking into
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the chambers. So he pardoned everybody, calling them patriots straight out.
These are patriots who wanted to undo a fake election. Now,
there were a few that weren't pardoned. There were a
few who committed grievous crimes in the sense of beating
(03:02):
up police officers, I mean beating them up, hitting them
with stix, hitting them with the shields they had in
one case grabbing I believe it was a fire extinguisher
and beating a cop up with that. And they were
convicted of those crimes. Well, Donald Trump pardoned two of those.
More more of those are being pardoned. One was for
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Suzanne llen k who served an eighteen month sentence for
threatening to shoot FBI agents while an investigation was going
on in to her involvement in the riots. And Daniel
Edwin also was convicted because he had unlawful firearms possession conviction.
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He had been convicted of being in possession of unlawful firearm. Well,
because he was connected, I'm assuming to the January sixth
overrunning of the capital, the attack on the Capitol, the sedition,
and a lot of them were convicted of conspiracy to
commit sedition, which is effectively interfering with the government, trying
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to overturn the government of the United States. That's what
sedition is about, or helping to overturn the government. Well,
they were pardoned. Also, I guess threats to threatening to
shoot FBI agents is not a problem as long as
you're on Donald Trump's side. As long as you are
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an ally of Donald Trump, you cannot commit a crime.
There is no such thing as crimes. You know. For example,
ahead of the cryptocurrency, the guy was convicted of hundreds
of millions of dollars that he had stolen from investors.
He was just pardoned because he's an ally of the president.
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And again, if you're not an ally, and you are,
then you are an enemy. Which is why James call
Me and Leticia James are being brought in federal crime
because the argument is that they put in Well, James
call Me lied in in Congress as to whether he
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was involved in leaking some information to the press. One
witness against him, one witness against him. It already the
case has already been dismissed for some technical reasons. They're
going to refile it. But that one crime is far
far greater. Or how about Leticia James. She lied? The
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argument is she lied on her application to buy a house,
saying she actually lived in that house when she didn't
live in the house. Therefore, that is fraud and getting
a better interest rate and defrauding the mortgage companies. That
is a federal crime of which a prosecution is going
to go full blast from the Department of Justice. Last,
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which is a far more grievous crime to the DOJ
than threatening to shoot and kill FBI agents or beating
up police officers. You know where I sit on this.
I mean, there's no question about it. And I get
emails constantly as to you're out of your mind. You're
(06:21):
a wacko left wing liberal. How dare you question any
of this? All right, let's take a phone call before
we break. Here we go, Christopher, Hello Christopher, Welcome, Hello Christopher.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I love the delay we have here on the phone
because we have a delay so people don't come up
and say the wrong thing at the wrong time, and
so we can cut it out and the board, our
break can cut it out. Okay, Christopher, I'm gonna give
you one last chance. Are you there, Chris, Christopher? Okay,
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so much for Christopher. That was That was a good call.
By the way, it's better than most. I have to
tell you, it is better than most. Stello, John, Welcome
to handle on the law.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Hi Bill, Yes, sir, I state questions here. My wife
recently inherited in the state from a distant cousin that
she hardly knew, along with three other cousins. Yeah, there
was a problem there where he owned a house outright,
and then of course he had a trust account he
lived on. He never filed any taxes. We got an
attorney to take care of the house issue because there
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was somebody contesting it saying the house was given him,
and we got an attorney, took the court the judge throughout
his case. So now the house belongs to the to
the to the benefactors and my wife and cousins. Now
there's still the trust accounts there. There was enough money
there that he lived off that trust account. But you
never foiled any taxes, so I'm sure there's back taxes old.
(07:59):
So uh, going before a probate court, I'm sure. Is
it necessary to maintain the attorney when all that needs
be set now is a trust account?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
No? No, No, you can appear in front of the
probate court yourself. That's not going to be a problem
and the court will order out, Like you said, any
taxes be paid, and especially if everybody agrees on one trustee,
if it is in a trust to sell everything. Otherwise,
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if the court will appoint a trustee. But again, I
don't think that this is something that I don't think
it's gonna be content unless it's being contested unless one
beneficiary is Okay, that's easy. How much money are we
talking about?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Well, I was worth about four hundred thousand to be
divided three ways, and then the trust account again, I
say there's roughly around four hundred five hundred thousand.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Okay, So you know, as you're talking real money, and
the judge already ruled the rule of the probe judge
ruled that the house now be put into the trust
or to be distributed among the beneficiaries. I don't know
was that pursued into a will or was that just
the probate court ruled on that because there was no
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will or trust controlling that.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Trust.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, So what you have is a house is ordered
to be sold and then distributed among the three I
assume there are three beneficiaries, correct, Is that true?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Correct?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Okay, So with the three beneficiaries, now you're only talking
about four hundred thousand. Still a lot of money. One
of you can go into court, and if the other
two be named, name that trustee just goes ahead and
sell it. I don't think you need an attorney for that.
You can just do a little research because attorneys cost
a whole lot of money. That's why I went to
law school to overcharge people. You know that, frankly, that
(09:57):
is the reason. This is why I got You know,
there's an essay you have to fill whenever you go
to law school. They look at this essay because you
have to write why you want to go to that
law school and why you want to be a lawyer,
et cetera. I wrote because I want to overcharge people.
I got in so quickly that your head would spin.
(10:17):
So I think you're going to be okay. This is
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Gangbusters with so many phone calls, and then that's what
happens major Holidays, is you know, the phone calls taper off,
and I go through these calls very quickly. As you know,
I just don't have patience with anybody. And so if
you don't call because the caller driven show, then all
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kinds of horrible things happened to you. And we'll talk
about that if that does happen. Welcome back to handle
on the law marginal legal advice. Cindy. You've been waiting
there a few minutes. What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
I have to take you up. Okay, you're off speaker.
I'm good morning and happy holidays. Calling because my forty
four year old daughter passed away rather suddenly under some
pretty suspicious circumstances and the boyfriend, the bonehead boyfriend, and
I have a feeling that foul play was involved. So
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what are my rights to medical records? Because, okay, I
got it. I'm not open an investigation. And by the way,
they only work three days a week.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Okay, all right, I got it. So was there a
was there an autopsy done?
Speaker 6 (11:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Huhh? And was she she hold on? Has she already
buried and or cremated?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Yes? She was cremated, okay, in real short order, all right?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And who ordered that cremation?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (12:16):
The uh uh? I'm not sure. It might have been
one of her daughters she has she I have two granddaughters.
One is twenty one and when one is nineteenth, and
together they don't have the intellect of a frog.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Okay, got it. So one of the frogs or both
of the frogs asked the cremation. And yeah, I don't
know who prevails because as a mother, are you in
first place when it comes to making that decision? Don't know?
Speaker 5 (12:44):
So now, no, no, I just want to I want
access to the medical records because I understand.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
No, I understand, and that is believe me. That leads
into the question, and so you want to get access
to her medical records?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And uh was? And you say no autopsy was done.
It was straight into a creation process with your daughter.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Correct. And they would even take bl or the medical
examiner did not take blooter alcohol samples. And what the
death certificate states is different from what the bonehead boyfriend said.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
It doesn't matter, it will believe me. Who do you
think is going to prevail the corner or do you
think the bonehead boyfriend is going to prevail if they're
if the laws looking at under the two. So it
doesn't matter what bonehead boyfriend says or doesn't say, And
it only matters if the police pick up the trail
on this. If they decide to investigate, they're gonna investigate.
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If they don't sendy, there's no place for you to go. Now,
can you get the medical records? Uh? Yeah, they can't.
There's some there are some uh some hurdles that have
to be overcome because medical records are under HIPPA and
they are private affairs, even have to dead people. So
the court will allow you to get medical records. Believe me,
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the hospital is not going to release those without a
court order. You can go to court and let me
ask you this. You're going to go to court and
you're saying it's suspicious circumstances. There's nothing left, there's nothing
left to examine. All you can do is take the
word of the corner. And if the corner says there's
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nothing suspicious, what does it say on the death certificate?
What is the cause of death?
Speaker 5 (14:35):
The cause of death was massive upper gi hemorrhage.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Okay, yes, and.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
The secondary one was cirrhosis of the liver.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Okay, And the problem is you don't have a liver
to look at. You can't say if it was upper
congenital or upper respiratory distress. Now are there medical records
out there that show there are you know, from the hospital. Again,
you can get the medical records. I think the court
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might order them, although the issue here is do they
keep them secret? Hippo law how far the hippolaws go
in maintaining the privacy. But in the end, Cindy, there's
no place for you to go because even what what if?
Speaker 5 (15:28):
What if? What if the medical records state something something
completely different.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
It doesn't matter. The coroner already made his decision or
her decision. That's what prevails. That's what prevails, and it's
you're gonna have a very very tough time. You're keep
in mind that you are talking about someone who is
licensed by the county to make those determinations, who has
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made the determination, and so you're you know, it's a
tough way to go. But that's uh, that's that's that's
the fact. Especially, I mean, let me you know, without
attacking her, and and I'm not because losing a child
no one should lose a child. Uh is who who's
going to prevail on this? Who do you think you know? Okay,
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before we bail, let me tell you about an accident
that you may get into. Uh And what do I mean? Well,
you get in a car accident, you know, have a
slipping fall happens all the time and it's not your fault.
Let's that you're rear ended or someone t bones you,
or you're out of major department store, big block store,
and all of a sudden something falls on your head.
I've gotten a few of those calls in the last
(16:42):
several months. What do you do, Well, you're gonna have
a lawyer. I mean, you're not gonna do this on
your own, that's for sure. So I'm gonna suggest you
really have no choice. You have to go out and
get a lawyer to represent you, to go after these folks.
And who do you go to? I mean, look at
the number of billboards for personal injury lawyers and commercials
and ads and radio ads. It's it's hard to know
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who is good. And some of them are excellent, by
the way, some not so good, and you don't know,
which is why I created handle on the Law dot Com.
Handle on the Law dot Com is about vetted attorneys
who if there is a problem with you, the client,
then I go ahead and call the attorney. And I've
done it more than a few times. Well, actually that's
(17:27):
not true. I've done it a few times over the
course of the years. And Handle on the Law dot
com has been around for a lot of years. So
if you've been injured in a car accident or slip
and fall, or something falls on your head or someone's
at fault, then I'm going to suggest you contact Handle
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Speaker 3 (18:31):
Let's just be on this morning about on the law.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Okay, bill, bill, Bill, Bill, Your line is absolutely horrible.
So I'm going to ask you to hang up and
call me back, okay, and I will pick up a
I'll do one phone call and then and then pick
you up. So because I knew you have an interesting
whole position, Oh there you go. All right, all right,
(19:00):
Well that hell's okay, we're home free. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Okay. I heard you this morning on the radio, obviously,
and you're talking about the billboards on the highways with
all these lawyers.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
On September twenty second, twenty and twenty two, my wife
took a fall on a walk on a sidewalk that
was elevated because of our root systems, in front of
someone's house. We called one of those guys that you
hear on the radio all the time advertising and they say, hey,
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you don't have a case, and you gotta hear you're
dealing with the city or LA County or something like that.
So we didn't go forward. I heard you this morning.
I say, wait a second, you don't advertise, you don't
push your stuff. And I said to myself. I'm gonna
call Bill when I get home. That's what I'm doing.
September twenty second, twenty and twenty two. Has the time
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period passed by it's a little over three years.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, it is, because it's good for two years. That's
the problem. What I want to know. And it may
be academic, by the way, it may not matter. But
why after talking to the first attorney did you not
ask for a second opinion someplace else?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
My wife didn't want to push it.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Okay, that's fair, all right. I hear that all the time.
I talk to people that simply do not want to
go into litigation when they have been injured and it's
not their fault, and they're just not interested because you're
doing and statements have to be made, and if it
goes beyond that, then they have to be witnesses to
what happened to their own fall. So when you talk,
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let me tell you the defense they're going to have there.
It was it was buckled. Had she ever walked there before?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Almost every day?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Okay, So the argument is going to be you saw
it every day, you knew it was there, therefore you
didn't pay attention. Okay, That is a legitimate argument to make,
and so it's not just she had never been in
that place before, took a walk and all of a
sudden the sidewalk was uneven because the route had brought
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a brought part of the concrete up. So there is
a defense there. Now, how badly was she was she
smashed up?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I have about eight or ten photographs of her in
the hospital.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
No, no, I understand, but how bad I don't care about
how many photographs you have. How badly was she injured?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Her lips, her eyes, her cheeks, she was a mess though.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Okay, well, let me ask you any permanent injuries? No?
Not okay, no, okay. So there is lies the problem,
and a couple of things are happening. Lawyers work almost
just as hard in a case that's not going to
give them as much money. When you have a case
where the damages are are eh, not very much. Even
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when there is liability there. Let's say the city was
that fault, you have no problem suing. The problem is
cities defend. They just don't roll over and write checks.
So there's a couple of things that happened that was
wrong with your case. But in the end, as I said,
it may not matter that a lawyer wouldn't pick it up.
(22:23):
Doubt do I know lawyers that would. I don't know
if it would pick it up. That's why I started
to handle on the law dot com for that exact reason.
You get an opinion, and if you have a lawyer,
they'll tell you you know, you're in good shape, you know,
stay where you are, and if you don't, yeah, we'll
take the case. But here are the rules that have
to be done. Within the first six months when you're
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dealing with the municipality, with a public entity, you have
to file a claim. You have to give them a
notice that you are going to sue if you don't
file that claim in the first six months, and the
statue runs two years. If you don't file that claim,
the case is over. It's done. And so the the
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relatively good news is that your wife was She wasn't
injured that badly. By the way, how ugly is she's
to start?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yes, my wife is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Okay, well that's that that helps they know. But by
the way, everybody thinks her wife is beautiful. I don't,
but everybody does. I mean, I've talked to I've talked
to blind people, who have said, my wife is beautiful,
How the hell do you know? In any case, the
better looking she is, the better her chances are to
get more money. But if it's not permanent, eh so,
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on a bunch of different reasons, you don't have anything there.
But as I said, you may not have had anything
there to begin with. So don't feel too bad except
to go to a second opinion. When one lawyer says no,
it's a question of how hard. I'm sure he wants
to work. There are lawyers out there, and again you
have no idea, and you're looking at billboards and at
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and some of these lawyers are great and you score
big time, and then some are as I said, not
so great. And it takes a lawyer who wants to
do a case. And there aren't that many lawyers that
will want to do a case if there isn't money
at the back end. They have to make money. So
you know, the good news for the injury is she's fine.
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I mean, she looked a mess when she first was
picked up off the sidewalk, but you're gonna walk into
court and she's perfect, right, she looks great and she's beautiful.
You know what's a judge or a jury going to
say under those circumstances. Phone number eight hundred five two
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more Handle on the law Marginal legal advice where I
(25:05):
tell you you have no case? Jeane, let me see
if you have no case? If I can tell you,
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yes, Hi, Bill. About a year and a half ago,
my wife signed as a co signer on her friend's
car loan. And now a year and a half later,
the lady's not making her payments and the lender is
coming after us, and I'm just.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Trying to find out how do we get her off
of that loan.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Thank you for actually confirming the fact when I said,
I hope you have no case. And there you go
calling in Jeane, she promised to pay. How do you
get out of it? How do you if you if
you say I will pay if if she doesn't, I
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will pay if someone else does not, And someone else
doesn't pay and I have guaranteed it on what basis
do you ever think anybody's getting out of that? No
contract would ever be valid if that were the case.
I under where she helps her bring it current?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Is she able to help her refinance and maybe get her.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, if she has Yeah, if your wife has good credit. Yeah,
they're going to rely on your wife's credit. They're certainly
not going to rely on flake friend. But yes, I
mean they'll they'll talk about it. You can refly it.
I mean people like when you refly loans because interest
rates are high, especially on car loans, and they make
a lot of money on them. So assuming that people
have decent credit, then there's no issue at all. So yes,
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the answer is they probably will allow a refine if
the guarantee continues on. And the problem is is how
they're going after the guaranteur. Your wife, how much delayed?
How much delinquent are you from the time that you
were contacted to now four months? Well, there you go,
(27:05):
it's four months which she guaranteed that there absolutely is
that no payment was made. Let me ask you, they
contacted you four months later, is that what happened?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Then you're fine?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Then you're fine. Okay, then you're fine because your wife
can say, hey, listen, I didn't even know about this
until I was contacted. Now did she make the payment
immediately to them?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Good? All of that helps enormously. Yes, your wife is
in pretty good shape credit wise, she can REFI the loan,
and she was. In terms of this friend, your wife
was not particularly bright, no matter of fact. Let me
go on that. Your wife was down right stupid. Tell
me about the relationship between the friend and your wife.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
It's tattered at best.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Okay, how many how many payments are left on that loan?
Speaker 4 (28:07):
About three more years?
Speaker 5 (28:09):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a tough one. How much is
how much was the car paid for? Well, let me
ask you this. How much money is left to pay
off three years?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Or what? How much?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You around? Yeah? Yeah, she's stuck between a rock and
a hard place. Yeah. All she can do is she's
got to pay it. She can try to refly, But
why why would she refly? Because that's going to add
time and a lot of time to it, and then
you've got to you know, it's years if the friend
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doesn't well, the ex friend doesn't pay, so you know,
I can't tell you. And there are people that I
co signed for I have co signed for, so I'm
not telling you, especially close close friends who turned out
to be liars. But thank god, it was very small money,
and in your case, it's not very small money, to
(29:06):
say the least.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Diana, Hello, Diana, good afternoon. Yes, yes, good, I am calling.
I work for a hearing aid company and before they
let me go, I had ordered a pair of molds
for my hearing aids. They came out poorly. I told
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them that I did not want them, and they took
it off my payroll as ours. Okay, is that legal?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Well, I mean is it legal? I mean everything is legal,
except for crimes that are clearly illegal. The issue is
are they liable? And the answer and here's the answer
they're going to ask, and so you the only thing
you can assume them, all right, or you can actually
you can go to the Department of Labor, Department of
(30:08):
Industrial Relations. I'm assuming this is California and say that
they know. I'm sorry you're there. Yeah, okay, so I'm
assuming this is the state of California.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Correct, No, it's the state of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Okay, Well, I'm going to assume the state of Michigan
has much the same rules as California does, especially when
it comes to labor law. They're all pretty good. So
what the first thing you want to do is tell
them you put the hours back on, because what you're
doing is in violation of the civil code. You're in
(30:43):
violation of the law. I use the word illegal. That's
fine because that's always fun to use. And then you
say what you've done is not appropriate. You've taken my
pay If you had a problem with that, you then
asked me to pay it, you don't take it off
my payroll. That is not allowed because that's sacrisank. People
getting paid is sacrisanked in the law. That is like
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the most important thing is payroll and not screwing employees.
And then if they say no, you go ahead and
report them. You file a lawsuit in small claims court,
and you go ahead and report them to whatever labor
entity happens in the state of Michigan. How much money
do they owe you, Diana.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
It's about one hundred and seventy five all right, you.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Can sue them for one hundred and seventy five dollars incidentally,
screwing you out of one hundred and seventy five dollars
is basically the same out of screwing you for seventeen
thousand dollars as far as the law is concerned, because
you got nailed and they took money out of your pay.
So I would do it on both grounds. Sue the
company for one hundred and seventy five dollars and then
(31:51):
go ahead and you complain to the labor board. Their
version of the labor board that scares you. I've had
employees I've had which I don't anymy more, thank goodness.
So I've had businesses in which I had twenty twenty
five employees depending on what time of year, and I
tell you it's you know, going to the labor board
was one of the scariest things that I could figure out.
(32:15):
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