January 20, 2025 • 32 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (01/20) – Susan Shelley from the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association joins the show to talk to John. With looming high winds what will the city of LA do with the homeless community and the fires they make.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Today we've got Trump getting inaugurated and issuing a blizzard
of executive orders, including many about the border. We went
through all the border executive orders, but just to sum
it up in a sentence, for the moment, the border
is effectively closed between the US and Mexico. The ports
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of entry are shut down. We will go through it
again later in the show, but a massive, massive change
in border and immigration policy.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We also.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Talked about there's rumblings in the Palisades that some people
say maybe it's time to separate from the rest of
Los Angeles since they were left not underserved, unserved as
the wildfire exploded and wiped out thousands of homes and nobody.
There was nobody running city hall. We'll go through that
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because remember there was a deputy mayor to Karen Bass,
who was recently put on leave because he was accused
of phoning in a bomb threat. He was the deputy
mayor who oversaw the fire department. So not only he
didn't have Karen Bass, but he didn't have the number
two deputy mayor, who oversees the fire department, and then
you had the fire chief saying that they've been severely
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underfunded and recently cut and Pacific Palisades residents are going
wait till I tell you how much how much in
taxes they collectively pay, And if you were there, you'd
want out too.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I mean this really, this really is the final straw.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We should break up into pieces, and the sections of
the city that can take care of themselves should be
allowed to take care of themselves. They shouldn't be held
hostage by these woke progressive ninnies in downtown LA and
city Hall. All that coming up. Let's go to Susan
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Shelley from that Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, because now we
have thousands of people in the Palisades and now toa dina,
they don't have homes they want to rebuild. Are they
going to end up with a big tax increase because
their new home is going to be worth more than
the old home. Let's get Susan on here. How are you, Susan?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm good, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
John, Okay, it's good to be here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Now I'm going to make up numbers just so people
understand what we're talking about here. So let's say somebody
twenty years ago about a home in the Palisades for
two million dollars, burns down to the ground, they build
a new home.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
The new home, because the.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Old price increase is inflation, is now worth four million dollars.
Are they paying the tax on the original two million
or the four million?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Their tax bill will not change from what it was
before the disaster. That's the good news. And there's more
good news. You can file a form called misfortune or
calamity reassessment and you can they'll actually this automatically in
this situation, which has happened to so many people. But
anyone who has a misfortunate or calamity that damages the
house more than ten thousand dollars can get a reassessment
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while it's in that damaged condition, so that your taxes
go down until you rebuild. And once you rebuild, you
are still protected by Prop thirteen. Every property in California,
no matter when it was purchased, is protected by Prop. Thirteen.
And after you rebuild from a calamity, you get your
original tax bill back.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
All right, so you could it'll be taxed at a
lower amounts while it's damaged, right, But then when you
rebuild it, the tax will be the original amount you
paid for.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Right. You'll have the tax bill that you would have
had if the disaster had never happened, if you had
your if you had your two million dollar assessment, you
would still have your two million dollar assessment, even though
it's new construction, even though the new construction might be
worth six million dollars. You're protected by Prop. Thirteen. You
get your old tax build back.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
If it takes two years to build. During those two years,
you are taxed at this damaged.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Rate, right exactly. And you could still be paying property
taxes on the value of the land during this period.
But the value of the land may have decreased in
value from what it's assessed at, in which case you'd
be eligible for a decrease in value reassessment on that
you won't be paying more than the land is worth.
While this is going.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
On, we were just talking, and I want to get
more into this in the next segment. The people in
Pacific Palisades pay a tremendous amount in taxes, not only
property taxes but income taxes. Most of them do really well.
They have really good jobs, they're professionals, and because they
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do really well, they pay a lot in sales tax
for the things they buy. All that sales tax, all
that property tax, all that income tax, and what did
they get for it when something bad happened.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You know, that's a really good question. One of the
things that really is disturbing is the city has this
They keep saying things about equity, that they're going to
do everything through an equity lens. And what does that mean?
Does that mean when if the city gives them any assistance,
Does that mean they're going to say, well, now that
we've given you assistance, you have to give back and
you have to do this, and you have to do
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that for the city because equity. Is that what they're
going to try to do. I don't know what they mean.
People should just be made whole. They should have expedited permits.
They should be helped through all the government red tape
to rebuild. They shouldn't have a year long delay to
clear the debris until the Department of Health, Barbara Farer's
department decides it's safe to clear the debris. They should
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be moving expeditiously to help people rebuild. And I'm not
sure that they're doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I also wonder if it's so easy for Newsome to
declare that all these regulations be suspended, environmental regulations, things
that nature. Why do if they can snap their fingers
and suspend them all, why do they exist?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
To begin with?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Why do people have to be really good questions?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, I mean for some reason, now, all those regulations
don't matter, and I'm glad they don't matter in this case,
But I wonder why do they matter at all? I mean,
obviously there's a few regulations that you need, but but
it's choke, it's it's it's nearly.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Possible, like to build new new housing here in California.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yes, it is. Well, part of that is the climate agenda.
You can't build housing in outlying areas because the government
thinks it causes too much driving, and they have taken
the position that driving is bad for the climate, and
so they're not building housing in new communities in California
where land is more affordable. They're not doing it because well,
the climate change, which is insane, and this is causing
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a housing shortage in.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
California, which is driving up the housing prices, driving up
the rent rental prices. And it's this vicious circle that
screws over everybody.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And another thing that's really caused a lot of this
problem is that they have air quality regulations that prevent
the fire mitigation that you could do, and other environmental regulations.
You probably heard about the LAEDWP getting finned two million
dollars a few years back because in twenty nineteen they
tried to replace wooden power poles into Penga State Park
with steel and there was a plant called the milk Vetch,
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the milk vetch, and they were stopped from replacing the
poles for fire safety and maintenance. They were stopped and
they were fined two million dollars by the Coastal Commission.
So you have that, and then you have these smoke
regulations from CARB, the California Air Resources Board, which has
put a crimp in plans to do the kind of
the kind of prescription burns that they used to do.
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The prescribe turns to get rid of the extra the
extra vegetation.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
All right, You've got two commissions there that nobody elects,
the Coastal Commission protecting the milk Vetch plant because the
WP wanted to put up those those new power poles.
They also wanted to pave a fire road and that
was blocked as well.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
For a milk Vetch plan. It sounds like a joke,
like a gag.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And then you talked about the regulations from the what's
the other agency that you mentioned there? They were resources,
another unelected board. How do we get out of this
mess because to some extent, politicians are afraid of getting
kicked out of office. But you can't kick the Coastal
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Commission out. You can't kick the California Air Resources Board out,
and they're the ones that are choking you know, the
average citizen more than anybody.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, there's two ways out of it. One is for
the legislature to change the law and cut back the
powers of these agencies, which they can do because these
agencies are creations of the legislature. And if they won't
do that, the second plan that might work is President
Trump coming in seeing some of California's special waivers for
extra tight air quality regulations which they have used to
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regulate the climate, which is not what they were intended
to do. They were intended for air pollution, but they're
using it to regulate greenhouse gases and create regulations for
things like electric car mandates, and so that is very
likely to fall because there were Supreme Court decisions to
change the legal landscape. And now the Trump administration can
withdraw some of these waivers, withdraw some of these regulations,
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and that will cut back the power of agencies like COBBS.
So that's the second way it could happen.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, he's got to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, we need we need some
federal intervention here because we're being held hostage by these
these commissions that we can't elect, we can't replace them
when when they when they when they invoke policies that
are very harmful to our lives.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Exactly, it's going to be a way there. There is
a way out of it's the Supreme the Court has
really shown us a pass out of these over regulation
situations where the whole economy is being held hostage. Our
government has to take action on it. But look, the
Supreme Court told our cities that they could enforce an
anti camping ordinance. Have you heard Karen Bass make a
statement saying they're doing extra enforcement in this wind? I
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haven't heard that.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
No, she's been defined about it. Yeah, that's a great thing.
That you brought up there too. You're giving me like
a whole show is worth of topics, just talking to
you spontaneously here, Susan, I got to run, got to
do the news. Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Thank you. John. Great to be with you all right.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And Susan Shelley, she's with Howard Jarvis Taxpayer's Association.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
The city, meaning Karen Bass's administration that failed all of
us and failed the fire department, is still in charge here.
They're still running things and we could see how in
comp they are. So we're in a lot of trouble
here because we don't have anybody intelligent running the city
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and the city's response and what's frightening is right now well,
as of noontime, the National Weather Service has announced that
there's powerful and damaging Santa Ana winds coming.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I'm looking at their warning.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Peak wind speeds on the coast and in the valleys,
the gusts are fifty to seventy miles an hour. In
the mountains and foothills, it's sixty to one hundred miles
an hour. That's for the rest of today and tomorrow
until ten am. So we're looking now at about twenty
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hours of extreme of extreme winds fifty to seventy miles
per hour the Coaston Valleys in the mountains and foothills
sixty eight one hundred miles an hour. It ties back
to we had Susan Shelley on a few minutes ago
from the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. Where is the emergency
order by Karen Bass to get all the bums off
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the street and out of the parks and out of
their campsites in the wild areas.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I mean, I would hope.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
That we're going block by block and we're getting these
homeless people away from their propane tanks and grills and
whatever they use to keep warm, whatever they use to
cook their food, especially the ones that are living in
parks and they're living in brush areas. Like they had
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a fire in Griffith Park today. There was a brush
fire burning on a slope.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
They knock that down pretty quickly, thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, but the winds weren't blowing that that much this morning.
If it's bowling fifty sixty one hundred miles an hour,
why are the homeless people all out on the street.
You have these and remember they are drugged out. They're
whacked out on meth or fentanyl or cocaine, whatever they're taking,
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and they're crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Some of them are into fire.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Now, why are they allowed to live and water around
the streets when we've got fifty seventy hundred mile an
hour winds coming.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
And since they're there, if they're being allowed to stay there,
do we have firefighters staged around those areas?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Easton case.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Does each encampment need its own set of firefighters?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, I guess they do. And this is where if
we had anybody running the city competently for the last
ten years, this wouldn't be a problem anymore. We wouldn't
have people living on the streets. They'd be taking care
of one way or the other, and then we wouldn't
be spending well over a billion dollars a year on
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homeless with half a fire department. I'm trying desperately. People
have to understand that we have half a fire department,
but we have a huge homeless department. And the homeless
department has had virtually no success. The only thing Karen
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Bass has done has spent a huge amount of money
renting out motel rooms and now that fund is going
is going broke. She says, it's not sustainable. You can't
rent that many hotel rooms for these people have to
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be sent to treatment which they never built. They have
to be sent to mental health clinics, which they never built,
or they have to be sent out of the city
and out of the county because you have literally thousands
of people capable of starting a deadly wildfire. God knows
how many people are living up in the hills there
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in the Santa Monica Mountains camping. In fact, I've seen
no evidence that it wasn't a homeless person that started
the palis Ages fire. They're curiously silent on this. And
I go back to the one of the reports Gigi
Grasciat did on Fox eleven, and she says fire officials,
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always off the record, are telling her over any number
of fires that are started by homeless people, but they're
not allowed to say so. They can't speak publicly. You know,
you get your career destroyed if you tell the truth
and say, yeah, that fire was started by a homeless guy.
Curious silence about the origin of the pad Palisades fire.
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It's really true now after two full weeks, they don't know.
They threw out a story about maybe it's the kids
who had the fireworks fire back on New Year's Day,
But I mean, does that hold up a week later?
Did the fire really reignite? Shouldn't they have figured that
out by now? I'm suspicious because I know the policy
is never to admit to homeless fires. Well, can you man,
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can you menation it's a homeless fire? After all the
billions of dollars that we spent, how hard do you
think Karen Bass would lean on the fire department never
ever to admit that it was a homeless fire. They
never wanted to admit it was a homeless fire that
nearly brought down Interstate ten a couple of years ago,
remember remember the overpass.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
They never admitted that it was homeless fire.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Imagine if in a couple of years we had a
homeless fire that wiped out the entire hire town of
Pacific Palisades and nearly brought out brought down Interstate ten,
and we're still spending billions of dollars and nobody wants
to talk about it, which is what I suspect has
been going on now, These winds are going to be
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could be potentially really destructive. Why isn't there an emergency
where I think all the homeless ought to be rounded
up off the streets, I thought. I think they're ought
to be rounded up at the parks and rounded up
in the uh in the brush area in the wild lands. Right,
that's worth it. Wouldn't you do that to save the
next Palisades? What's the next town that has to be
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completely wiped out for the sake of the homeless to
have their right to uh cook squirrel meat or whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
They're doing living up in the hills.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
And it's really cold at night lately.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yes, it's really great.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
So they're going to be heating themselves.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yes, they're called warming fires. Heard that term the other day.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So they have their their they got to cook dinner,
they got to heat breakfast, they.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Got to warm themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And tens of thousands are living in public areas like this.
There is no city wides and Newsom should be declaring
a statewide emergency. I mean, the National Guard ought to
be clearing athletes encampments immediately.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
And we've known about these wins since last week, we
were talking about it. I think it's been a week
that we knew that these wins were coming back.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So how much they're still unprepared, they're still not taking action.
All they do is hope everything goes away, that the
winds stop and people forget and Trump may mix so
much news that people start screaming at each other over
Trump and forget this horrific job that they've done. And
I'm talking about Bass and Newsom, and there's a long list,
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but I can't mention the long list every time I
bring it up, which is going to be constantly. I mean,
Bass should be haunted for the rest of her life
for this, so should Newsom. They should not have political careers,
they should not be in office anymore. I think that's clear. Well,
somebody's got to do something.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
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Speaker 5 (19:15):
Hey, John, had a little bit of a breaking news.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
The LAPD has apparently taken into custody a suspected arsonists
in connection with that fire, the Griffith Parks fire.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
The Griffith Park.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yes, wow, yeah, it happened in the lowest feeless neighborhood,
not far from the Barnsdale Art Park.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
So this is according to the LAPD scanner.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No other details on it yet, not yet. All right, Well,
if you find anything else out, I will like you
count us.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I just found that out. I don't broke in while
you were talking.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Don't keep secrets. I'm not all right.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Uh yeah, arsonists and crazy homeless people warming themselves, feeding themselves,
and I don't see any citywide effort to address that
in the moment, because, as you're going to keep hearing,
we're looking at fifty to seventy mile an hour gusts
of wind in the coasts and valley areas and sixty
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to one hundred mile gus up in the hills the
mountain passes. So it's similar weather to what existed when
the Palisades fire started. And we know that we have
thousands of encampments around the city and around the county
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that are unregulated. Let's say all these homeless people, all
these vagrants, and they had matches, they smoke cigarettes, hot,
they've got their grills, They have their campfires that they
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set to warm themselves, to feed themselves. It's just astonishing
and heard I hadn't heard any executive orders about this
from Karen Bass or from Gavin Newsom or from the
county leaders either.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Here's another one after fourteen days.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
What's the story with the LA deputy mayor Brian Williams.
He was the guy who was the deputy mayor in
charge of public safety. He oversaw the police and fire department.
He was one of Bass's top lieutenants. And then Bass
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put him on an administrative leave because the FBI raided
his house in Pasadena. They raided his house because they're
investigating him for a bomb threat that he called into
city hall earlier this year. Now his host his home
was raided by the FBI last month. The bump threat
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was from September. Now it's January. Had this massive fire.
We have this half funded fire department and the fire
chiefs held back a lot of resources until it was
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too late. Well, who's this Brian Williams? And if Karen
Bass was out of town and Brian Williams was on leave,
well who was in charge? Who was in charge to
call up Kristin Crowley, the fire chief, and say, hey,
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what do you have there? How many extra firefighters are there? Oh,
well we have a thousand from the first shift. Well,
let's keep him over with the second shift. How about
the forty engines. Let's send him to the hillsides. Because
Kristen Crowley reports to Bass, and Bass has all these
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lieutenants who divvy up the different departments. Well, if Brian
Williams wasn't deputy mayor anymore for police and fire, then
who was. Williams was appointed in February twenty twenty three.
He was given the job of overseeing public safety in
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the city. He was in charge of the police Department,
the fire department. I think most people don't know this.
Most people don't know there's a deputy mayor who oversees
the police and fire department. It's not just the police
chief and the fire chief. They report to the mayor
as well as the Police Commission and the Fire Commission.
Like there's a whole bureaucracy here. I don't know exactly
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how the chain of command works. He was also in
charge of the Port of Los Angeles Police, the Los
Angeles World Airport Police, the City emergency Management department. Oh,
that was the one who sent out all the phony warnings.
How many of those did we have? By the way,
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there was a severe looting situation all over the West
Side as well, and the guy in charge of police
fire emergency management on leave for calling in a bomb threat.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Who was the replacement?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
How come we don't know this? What did they do
that day? Was there a person replacing Brian Williams that day?
And we're really standing in for the mayor since there
was no mayor here and there was no deputy mayor
in office? Was there an assistant undersecretary deputy? I can't
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imagine what the title would be. Fox News called everybody up,
and nobody's commenting. Nobody wants to They're desperate that this
goes away, and they may get their wish because you know,
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you watch television today and it's Walter wald Trump. Media
is not good at follow up stories, investigative stories anymore.
They don't have the budget, so they're just going to
run around and it cover the winds today and if
a fire kicks up, you'll see video footage of the
new fires. But as far as this colossal human failure
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on the part of Bass and Brian Williams and Newsome
and the rest of them. They want you to forget
it ever happened that they had anything to do with it.
And you know, just like I said before, it hits
me hard today because I see much of the rest
of the country really celebrating the new administration and Trump
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shutting down the border ten different ways just with a
stroke of a pen.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's the power that Biden always had. And I'm thinking, man,
why do we have to live like this?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Why have we had to live the way we've lived
for the last five years? Why it was all damaging, unnecessary?
These fanatical, tyrannical, woke, progressive rulers, we've had nothing, nothing,
nothing makes sense. So we're going to keep the spotlight
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on it here because I don't think anybody else is
going to. I think the fire department should be doubled
in size and double funding and get the money from
the homeless because all that money that we're spending on
the homeless is not working anyway. And the police department
is underfunded, and the police department is missing probably a
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couple of thousand officers.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Wow, that should be remedied too.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
If they can find anybody they can find some recruits,
and we ought to stop demonizing police and stop demonizing firefighters.
I think that this this whole era has to be
shut down.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Enough. Nobody wants to live this way.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
A lot of damage the progressives did and they're still
doing it and they're still in power.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
They're running on most stations all day coverage of the
Trump inauguration. He's gone to the Capital One Arena. I
guess that's where they play hockey and basketball Washington.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
D C. And he's sitting there next to Milania and JD. Vance.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
There's a university marching band performing and I understand there
they have like a stage with a desk, and he's
going to go to the desk and sign executive orders
in front of the crowd. It's uh, that's unique. I've
never seen you haven't seen anybody do that before. There's
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a lot of executive orders. We're going to go through
the immigration ones. If you haven't heard many immigrant The
border is effectively shut down right now, and that stupid
border app that allowed illegal aliens to get in by
making a reservation in advance before they crossed, so they
wouldn't be counted as illegal. That thing doesn't work anymore.
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They have disconnected that system. That app no longer is operable.
So we'll talk all that, all about that after three o'clock.
I couldn't believe this. There's a writer for the La Times,
Tony Barbosa. He's been covering City Hall for a long time.
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And on Tuesday that they had a council meeting and
they had many, many motions, and they had many votes
in order to authorize the beginning of a recovery phase
for the palisades, right, and it was going very quickly.
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There'd be motions and votes, and motions and votes. Do
you know how the reporters are supposed to follow the
motions and the votes, keep track of the news. They
have to go to a bulletin board. They actually have
a bulletin board glued to a wall at City Hall.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's seven feet high.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And it's the only way to figure out in real
time what the council is doing. They took a thumbtack
and they stick paper onto the bulletin board, and all
the reporters crowd around, craning their necks trying to see
what it says, and they pull out their phones and
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snap pictures. For example, they had motions tagged to the board,
proposals to protect people displaced by the fires from eviction,
protect them from price gouging, speed up federal disaster relief assessment,
to assessing the risk of post fire debris flows, authorize
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reports to be done so the reporters and anybody from
the public gather together in this crowd, reading and taking
screenshots of all this paper tacked. There's layers and layers
of paper tacked on top of each other. It's a
bulletin board, Eliza. It's like nineteen thirty eight. Trying to
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keep track of what was proposed and voted on took
two La Times reporters. One of them had to snap
the photos and then catalog them in order and then
quickly read through them.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
They don't have an Internet system, or if they have one,
they're not using it. They're passing around sheets of paper,
according to Borbosa, attacking them to a board and leaving
it to whoever to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
This can't be How could this possibly be?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I this is the La City Council using bulletin board,
using bulletin boards and thumb tax to get the news out.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well, how's anybody supposed to keep track of this?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
All right, we come back, We'll go through Trump's executive orders.
I also want to give you an idea just how
much money the Palisades pays collectively in taxes and how
many homes there were, how much money the people make.
When you hear how much they're paying in taxes and
how little return they got, you're not going to wonder
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why some people want to seceed. I mean on this,
this is is just just overwhelming. And you know Trump
is going to speak this afternoon too. They're having the
parade indoors. That's what's going on. That's why I'm there's
marching bands. I guess they created like a track that
the parade participants could march around inside the arena. Tebbermark
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live in the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've
been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can
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Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Today we've got Trump getting inaugurated and issuing a blizzard
of executive orders, including many about the border. We went
through all the border executive orders, but just to sum
it up in a sentence, for the moment, the border
is effectively closed between the US and Mexico. The ports
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of entry are shut down. We will go through it
again later in the show, but a massive, massive change
in border and immigration policy.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We also.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Talked about there's rumblings in the Palisades that some people
say maybe it's time to separate from the rest of
Los Angeles since they were left not underserved, unserved as
the wildfire exploded and wiped out thousands of homes and nobody.
There was nobody running city hall. We'll go through that
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because remember there was a deputy mayor to Karen Bass,
who was recently put on leave because he was accused
of phoning in a bomb threat. He was the deputy
mayor who oversaw the fire department. So not only he
didn't have Karen Bass, but he didn't have the number
two deputy mayor, who oversees the fire department, and then
you had the fire chief saying that they've been severely
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underfunded and recently cut and Pacific Palisades residents are going
wait till I tell you how much how much in
taxes they collectively pay, And if you were there, you'd
want out too.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I mean this really, this really is the final straw.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
We should break up into pieces, and the sections of
the city that can take care of themselves should be
allowed to take care of themselves. They shouldn't be held
hostage by these woke progressive ninnies in downtown LA and
city Hall. All that coming up. Let's go to Susan
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Shelley from that Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, because now we
have thousands of people in the Palisades and now toa dina,
they don't have homes they want to rebuild. Are they
going to end up with a big tax increase because
their new home is going to be worth more than
the old home. Let's get Susan on here. How are you, Susan?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm good, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
John, Okay, it's good to be here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Now I'm going to make up numbers just so people
understand what we're talking about here. So let's say somebody
twenty years ago about a home in the Palisades for
two million dollars, burns down to the ground, they build
a new home.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
The new home, because the.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Old price increase is inflation, is now worth four million dollars.
Are they paying the tax on the original two million
or the four million?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Their tax bill will not change from what it was
before the disaster. That's the good news. And there's more
good news. You can file a form called misfortune or
calamity reassessment and you can they'll actually this automatically in
this situation, which has happened to so many people. But
anyone who has a misfortunate or calamity that damages the
house more than ten thousand dollars can get a reassessment
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while it's in that damaged condition, so that your taxes
go down until you rebuild. And once you rebuild, you
are still protected by Prop thirteen. Every property in California,
no matter when it was purchased, is protected by Prop. Thirteen.
And after you rebuild from a calamity, you get your
original tax bill back.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
All right, so you could it'll be taxed at a
lower amounts while it's damaged, right, But then when you
rebuild it, the tax will be the original amount you
paid for.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Right. You'll have the tax bill that you would have
had if the disaster had never happened, if you had
your if you had your two million dollar assessment, you
would still have your two million dollar assessment, even though
it's new construction, even though the new construction might be
worth six million dollars. You're protected by Prop. Thirteen. You
get your old tax build back.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
If it takes two years to build. During those two years,
you are taxed at this damaged.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Rate, right exactly. And you could still be paying property
taxes on the value of the land during this period.
But the value of the land may have decreased in
value from what it's assessed at, in which case you'd
be eligible for a decrease in value reassessment on that
you won't be paying more than the land is worth.
While this is going.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
On, we were just talking, and I want to get
more into this in the next segment. The people in
Pacific Palisades pay a tremendous amount in taxes, not only
property taxes but income taxes. Most of them do really well.
They have really good jobs, they're professionals, and because they
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do really well, they pay a lot in sales tax
for the things they buy. All that sales tax, all
that property tax, all that income tax, and what did
they get for it when something bad happened.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You know, that's a really good question. One of the
things that really is disturbing is the city has this
They keep saying things about equity, that they're going to
do everything through an equity lens. And what does that mean?
Does that mean when if the city gives them any assistance,
Does that mean they're going to say, well, now that
we've given you assistance, you have to give back and
you have to do this, and you have to do
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that for the city because equity. Is that what they're
going to try to do. I don't know what they mean.
People should just be made whole. They should have expedited permits.
They should be helped through all the government red tape
to rebuild. They shouldn't have a year long delay to
clear the debris until the Department of Health, Barbara Farer's
department decides it's safe to clear the debris. They should
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be moving expeditiously to help people rebuild. And I'm not
sure that they're doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I also wonder if it's so easy for Newsome to
declare that all these regulations be suspended, environmental regulations, things
that nature. Why do if they can snap their fingers
and suspend them all, why do they exist?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
To begin with?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Why do people have to be really good questions?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, I mean for some reason, now, all those regulations
don't matter, and I'm glad they don't matter in this case,
But I wonder why do they matter at all? I mean,
obviously there's a few regulations that you need, but but
it's choke, it's it's it's nearly.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Possible, like to build new new housing here in California.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yes, it is. Well, part of that is the climate agenda.
You can't build housing in outlying areas because the government
thinks it causes too much driving, and they have taken
the position that driving is bad for the climate, and
so they're not building housing in new communities in California
where land is more affordable. They're not doing it because well,
the climate change, which is insane, and this is causing
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a housing shortage in.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
California, which is driving up the housing prices, driving up
the rent rental prices. And it's this vicious circle that
screws over everybody.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
And another thing that's really caused a lot of this
problem is that they have air quality regulations that prevent
the fire mitigation that you could do, and other environmental regulations.
You probably heard about the LAEDWP getting finned two million
dollars a few years back because in twenty nineteen they
tried to replace wooden power poles into Penga State Park
with steel and there was a plant called the milk Vetch,
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the milk vetch, and they were stopped from replacing the
poles for fire safety and maintenance. They were stopped and
they were fined two million dollars by the Coastal Commission.
So you have that, and then you have these smoke
regulations from CARB, the California Air Resources Board, which has
put a crimp in plans to do the kind of
the kind of prescription burns that they used to do.
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The prescribe turns to get rid of the extra the
extra vegetation.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
All right, You've got two commissions there that nobody elects,
the Coastal Commission protecting the milk Vetch plant because the
WP wanted to put up those those new power poles.
They also wanted to pave a fire road and that
was blocked as well.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
For a milk Vetch plan. It sounds like a joke,
like a gag.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
And then you talked about the regulations from the what's
the other agency that you mentioned there? They were resources,
another unelected board. How do we get out of this
mess because to some extent, politicians are afraid of getting
kicked out of office. But you can't kick the Coastal
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Commission out. You can't kick the California Air Resources Board out,
and they're the ones that are choking you know, the
average citizen more than anybody.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, there's two ways out of it. One is for
the legislature to change the law and cut back the
powers of these agencies, which they can do because these
agencies are creations of the legislature. And if they won't
do that, the second plan that might work is President
Trump coming in seeing some of California's special waivers for
extra tight air quality regulations which they have used to
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regulate the climate, which is not what they were intended
to do. They were intended for air pollution, but they're
using it to regulate greenhouse gases and create regulations for
things like electric car mandates, and so that is very
likely to fall because there were Supreme Court decisions to
change the legal landscape. And now the Trump administration can
withdraw some of these waivers, withdraw some of these regulations,
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and that will cut back the power of agencies like COBBS.
So that's the second way it could happen.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, he's got to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, we need we need some
federal intervention here because we're being held hostage by these
these commissions that we can't elect, we can't replace them
when when they when they when they invoke policies that
are very harmful to our lives.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Exactly, it's going to be a way there. There is
a way out of it's the Supreme the Court has
really shown us a pass out of these over regulation
situations where the whole economy is being held hostage. Our
government has to take action on it. But look, the
Supreme Court told our cities that they could enforce an
anti camping ordinance. Have you heard Karen Bass make a
statement saying they're doing extra enforcement in this wind? I
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haven't heard that.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
No, she's been defined about it. Yeah, that's a great thing.
That you brought up there too. You're giving me like
a whole show is worth of topics, just talking to
you spontaneously here, Susan, I got to run, got to
do the news. Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Thank you. John. Great to be with you all right.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
And Susan Shelley, she's with Howard Jarvis Taxpayer's Association.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 2 (10:45):
The city, meaning Karen Bass's administration that failed all of
us and failed the fire department, is still in charge here.
They're still running things and we could see how in
comp they are. So we're in a lot of trouble
here because we don't have anybody intelligent running the city
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and the city's response and what's frightening is right now well,
as of noontime, the National Weather Service has announced that
there's powerful and damaging Santa Ana winds coming.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
I'm looking at their warning.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Peak wind speeds on the coast and in the valleys,
the gusts are fifty to seventy miles an hour. In
the mountains and foothills, it's sixty to one hundred miles
an hour. That's for the rest of today and tomorrow
until ten am. So we're looking now at about twenty
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hours of extreme of extreme winds fifty to seventy miles
per hour the Coaston Valleys in the mountains and foothills
sixty eight one hundred miles an hour. It ties back
to we had Susan Shelley on a few minutes ago
from the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. Where is the emergency
order by Karen Bass to get all the bums off
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the street and out of the parks and out of
their campsites in the wild areas.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
I mean, I would hope.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
That we're going block by block and we're getting these
homeless people away from their propane tanks and grills and
whatever they use to keep warm, whatever they use to
cook their food, especially the ones that are living in
parks and they're living in brush areas. Like they had
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a fire in Griffith Park today. There was a brush
fire burning on a slope.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
They knock that down pretty quickly, thank goodness.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, but the winds weren't blowing that that much this morning.
If it's bowling fifty sixty one hundred miles an hour,
why are the homeless people all out on the street.
You have these and remember they are drugged out. They're
whacked out on meth or fentanyl or cocaine, whatever they're taking,
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and they're crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Some of them are into fire.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Now, why are they allowed to live and water around
the streets when we've got fifty seventy hundred mile an
hour winds coming.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
And since they're there, if they're being allowed to stay there,
do we have firefighters staged around those areas?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Easton case.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Does each encampment need its own set of firefighters?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, I guess they do. And this is where if
we had anybody running the city competently for the last
ten years, this wouldn't be a problem anymore. We wouldn't
have people living on the streets. They'd be taking care
of one way or the other, and then we wouldn't
be spending well over a billion dollars a year on
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homeless with half a fire department. I'm trying desperately. People
have to understand that we have half a fire department,
but we have a huge homeless department. And the homeless
department has had virtually no success. The only thing Karen
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Bass has done has spent a huge amount of money
renting out motel rooms and now that fund is going
is going broke. She says, it's not sustainable. You can't
rent that many hotel rooms for these people have to
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be sent to treatment which they never built. They have
to be sent to mental health clinics, which they never built,
or they have to be sent out of the city
and out of the county because you have literally thousands
of people capable of starting a deadly wildfire. God knows
how many people are living up in the hills there
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in the Santa Monica Mountains camping. In fact, I've seen
no evidence that it wasn't a homeless person that started
the palis Ages fire. They're curiously silent on this. And
I go back to the one of the reports Gigi
Grasciat did on Fox eleven, and she says fire officials,
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always off the record, are telling her over any number
of fires that are started by homeless people, but they're
not allowed to say so. They can't speak publicly. You know,
you get your career destroyed if you tell the truth
and say, yeah, that fire was started by a homeless guy.
Curious silence about the origin of the pad Palisades fire.
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It's really true now after two full weeks, they don't know.
They threw out a story about maybe it's the kids
who had the fireworks fire back on New Year's Day,
But I mean, does that hold up a week later?
Did the fire really reignite? Shouldn't they have figured that
out by now? I'm suspicious because I know the policy
is never to admit to homeless fires. Well, can you man,
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can you menation it's a homeless fire? After all the
billions of dollars that we spent, how hard do you
think Karen Bass would lean on the fire department never
ever to admit that it was a homeless fire. They
never wanted to admit it was a homeless fire that
nearly brought down Interstate ten a couple of years ago,
remember remember the overpass.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
They never admitted that it was homeless fire.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Imagine if in a couple of years we had a
homeless fire that wiped out the entire hire town of
Pacific Palisades and nearly brought out brought down Interstate ten,
and we're still spending billions of dollars and nobody wants
to talk about it, which is what I suspect has
been going on now, These winds are going to be
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could be potentially really destructive. Why isn't there an emergency
where I think all the homeless ought to be rounded
up off the streets, I thought. I think they're ought
to be rounded up at the parks and rounded up
in the uh in the brush area in the wild lands. Right,
that's worth it. Wouldn't you do that to save the
next Palisades? What's the next town that has to be
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completely wiped out for the sake of the homeless to
have their right to uh cook squirrel meat or whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
They're doing living up in the hills.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
And it's really cold at night lately.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yes, it's really great.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
So they're going to be heating themselves.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yes, they're called warming fires. Heard that term the other day.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So they have their their they got to cook dinner,
they got to heat breakfast, they.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Got to warm themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And tens of thousands are living in public areas like this.
There is no city wides and Newsom should be declaring
a statewide emergency. I mean, the National Guard ought to
be clearing athletes encampments immediately.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
And we've known about these wins since last week, we
were talking about it. I think it's been a week
that we knew that these wins were coming back.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So how much they're still unprepared, they're still not taking action.
All they do is hope everything goes away, that the
winds stop and people forget and Trump may mix so
much news that people start screaming at each other over
Trump and forget this horrific job that they've done. And
I'm talking about Bass and Newsom, and there's a long list,
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but I can't mention the long list every time I
bring it up, which is going to be constantly. I mean,
Bass should be haunted for the rest of her life
for this, so should Newsom. They should not have political careers,
they should not be in office anymore. I think that's clear. Well,
somebody's got to do something.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
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Speaker 5 (19:15):
Hey, John, had a little bit of a breaking news.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
The LAPD has apparently taken into custody a suspected arsonists
in connection with that fire, the Griffith Parks fire.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
The Griffith Park.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yes, wow, yeah, it happened in the lowest feeless neighborhood,
not far from the Barnsdale Art Park.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
So this is according to the LAPD scanner.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No other details on it yet, not yet. All right, Well,
if you find anything else out, I will like you
count us.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I just found that out. I don't broke in while
you were talking.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Don't keep secrets. I'm not all right.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Uh yeah, arsonists and crazy homeless people warming themselves, feeding themselves,
and I don't see any citywide effort to address that
in the moment, because, as you're going to keep hearing,
we're looking at fifty to seventy mile an hour gusts
of wind in the coasts and valley areas and sixty
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to one hundred mile gus up in the hills the
mountain passes. So it's similar weather to what existed when
the Palisades fire started. And we know that we have
thousands of encampments around the city and around the county
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that are unregulated. Let's say all these homeless people, all
these vagrants, and they had matches, they smoke cigarettes, hot,
they've got their grills, They have their campfires that they
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set to warm themselves, to feed themselves. It's just astonishing
and heard I hadn't heard any executive orders about this
from Karen Bass or from Gavin Newsom or from the
county leaders either.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Here's another one after fourteen days.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
What's the story with the LA deputy mayor Brian Williams.
He was the guy who was the deputy mayor in
charge of public safety. He oversaw the police and fire department.
He was one of Bass's top lieutenants. And then Bass
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put him on an administrative leave because the FBI raided
his house in Pasadena. They raided his house because they're
investigating him for a bomb threat that he called into
city hall earlier this year. Now his host his home
was raided by the FBI last month. The bump threat
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was from September. Now it's January. Had this massive fire.
We have this half funded fire department and the fire
chiefs held back a lot of resources until it was
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too late. Well, who's this Brian Williams? And if Karen
Bass was out of town and Brian Williams was on leave,
well who was in charge? Who was in charge to
call up Kristin Crowley, the fire chief, and say, hey,
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what do you have there? How many extra firefighters are there? Oh,
well we have a thousand from the first shift. Well,
let's keep him over with the second shift. How about
the forty engines. Let's send him to the hillsides. Because
Kristen Crowley reports to Bass, and Bass has all these
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lieutenants who divvy up the different departments. Well, if Brian
Williams wasn't deputy mayor anymore for police and fire, then
who was. Williams was appointed in February twenty twenty three.
He was given the job of overseeing public safety in
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the city. He was in charge of the police Department,
the fire department. I think most people don't know this.
Most people don't know there's a deputy mayor who oversees
the police and fire department. It's not just the police
chief and the fire chief. They report to the mayor
as well as the Police Commission and the Fire Commission.
Like there's a whole bureaucracy here. I don't know exactly
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how the chain of command works. He was also in
charge of the Port of Los Angeles Police, the Los
Angeles World Airport Police, the City emergency Management department. Oh,
that was the one who sent out all the phony warnings.
How many of those did we have? By the way,
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there was a severe looting situation all over the West
Side as well, and the guy in charge of police
fire emergency management on leave for calling in a bomb threat.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Who was the replacement?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
How come we don't know this? What did they do
that day? Was there a person replacing Brian Williams that day?
And we're really standing in for the mayor since there
was no mayor here and there was no deputy mayor
in office? Was there an assistant undersecretary deputy? I can't
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imagine what the title would be. Fox News called everybody up,
and nobody's commenting. Nobody wants to They're desperate that this
goes away, and they may get their wish because you know,
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you watch television today and it's Walter wald Trump. Media
is not good at follow up stories, investigative stories anymore.
They don't have the budget, so they're just going to
run around and it cover the winds today and if
a fire kicks up, you'll see video footage of the
new fires. But as far as this colossal human failure
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on the part of Bass and Brian Williams and Newsome
and the rest of them. They want you to forget
it ever happened that they had anything to do with it.
And you know, just like I said before, it hits
me hard today because I see much of the rest
of the country really celebrating the new administration and Trump
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shutting down the border ten different ways just with a
stroke of a pen.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
That's the power that Biden always had. And I'm thinking, man,
why do we have to live like this?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Why have we had to live the way we've lived
for the last five years? Why it was all damaging, unnecessary?
These fanatical, tyrannical, woke, progressive rulers, we've had nothing, nothing,
nothing makes sense. So we're going to keep the spotlight
(26:28):
on it here because I don't think anybody else is
going to. I think the fire department should be doubled
in size and double funding and get the money from
the homeless because all that money that we're spending on
the homeless is not working anyway. And the police department
is underfunded, and the police department is missing probably a
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couple of thousand officers.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Wow, that should be remedied too.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
If they can find anybody they can find some recruits,
and we ought to stop demonizing police and stop demonizing firefighters.
I think that this this whole era has to be
shut down.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Enough. Nobody wants to live this way.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
A lot of damage the progressives did and they're still
doing it and they're still in power.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 2 (27:28):
They're running on most stations all day coverage of the
Trump inauguration. He's gone to the Capital One Arena. I
guess that's where they play hockey and basketball Washington.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
D C. And he's sitting there next to Milania and JD. Vance.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
There's a university marching band performing and I understand there
they have like a stage with a desk, and he's
going to go to the desk and sign executive orders
in front of the crowd. It's uh, that's unique. I've
never seen you haven't seen anybody do that before. There's
(28:05):
a lot of executive orders. We're going to go through
the immigration ones. If you haven't heard many immigrant The
border is effectively shut down right now, and that stupid
border app that allowed illegal aliens to get in by
making a reservation in advance before they crossed, so they
wouldn't be counted as illegal. That thing doesn't work anymore.
(28:30):
They have disconnected that system. That app no longer is operable.
So we'll talk all that, all about that after three o'clock.
I couldn't believe this. There's a writer for the La Times,
Tony Barbosa. He's been covering City Hall for a long time.
(28:50):
And on Tuesday that they had a council meeting and
they had many, many motions, and they had many votes
in order to authorize the beginning of a recovery phase
for the palisades, right, and it was going very quickly.
(29:13):
There'd be motions and votes, and motions and votes. Do
you know how the reporters are supposed to follow the
motions and the votes, keep track of the news. They
have to go to a bulletin board. They actually have
a bulletin board glued to a wall at City Hall.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's seven feet high.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
And it's the only way to figure out in real
time what the council is doing. They took a thumbtack
and they stick paper onto the bulletin board, and all
the reporters crowd around, craning their necks trying to see
what it says, and they pull out their phones and
(29:57):
snap pictures. For example, they had motions tagged to the board,
proposals to protect people displaced by the fires from eviction,
protect them from price gouging, speed up federal disaster relief assessment,
to assessing the risk of post fire debris flows, authorize
(30:21):
reports to be done so the reporters and anybody from
the public gather together in this crowd, reading and taking
screenshots of all this paper tacked. There's layers and layers
of paper tacked on top of each other. It's a
bulletin board, Eliza. It's like nineteen thirty eight. Trying to
(30:44):
keep track of what was proposed and voted on took
two La Times reporters. One of them had to snap
the photos and then catalog them in order and then
quickly read through them.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
They don't have an Internet system, or if they have one,
they're not using it. They're passing around sheets of paper,
according to Borbosa, attacking them to a board and leaving
it to whoever to figure out what's going on.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
This can't be How could this possibly be?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I this is the La City Council using bulletin board,
using bulletin boards and thumb tax to get the news out.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well, how's anybody supposed to keep track of this?
Speaker 2 (31:40):
All right, we come back, We'll go through Trump's executive orders.
I also want to give you an idea just how
much money the Palisades pays collectively in taxes and how
many homes there were, how much money the people make.
When you hear how much they're paying in taxes and
how little return they got, you're not going to wonder
(32:01):
why some people want to seceed. I mean on this,
this is is just just overwhelming. And you know Trump
is going to speak this afternoon too. They're having the
parade indoors. That's what's going on. That's why I'm there's
marching bands. I guess they created like a track that
the parade participants could march around inside the arena. Tebbermark
(32:25):
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