March 5, 2025 • 32 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (03/05) - Michel Shane comes on the show to talk about Gov. Newsom rejecting his family’s appeal to stop the early release of the driver who killed their daughter Emily. There is a new Recall Karen Bass campaign and they have released their first ad. Pres. Trump addressed Congress last night and there was a lot of shenanigans that went on during the speech.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're on from one
until four o'clock and then after four o'clock you can
listen to the podcast John Colbet's show on demand on
the iHeart app. This story really means something to me personally.
(00:23):
One of our friends, Michelle Shane in Malibu. He and
his wife Ellen suffered the worst tragedy back in twenty ten.
Their thirteen year old daughter was run down a Pacific
Coast highway by a crazed driver named Sina Kankanion, and
it came out in court that he actually it was
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very angry, very emotionally upset, and aimed his car right
at Emily and he was eventually it was kind of
a long running legal case. He eventually was from murder
fifteen years to life, but eligible for parole after twelve
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well twelve years more or less has passed and he's
gotten parole from the pro board. Newsom was the last
stop and Gavin Newsom rejected Michelle and Ellen Shane's appeal
and now Sena Konkanyan is going to be released after
just twelve years. Nowhere near the fifteen to life, and
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I'm going to talk to Michelle now about that and
also about what kind of mental condition is Sena Kankanian
being released in considering the way he's been living the
last few years in prison. Let's get to Michelle. Michelle,
thank you for coming on again.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Heank John, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah. I know this isn't easy, but I do think
people should hear all this because it's hard to believe
this goes on. So, your daughter, as we've talked about
a number of times, was run down on PCH. You
were going to pick her up and this guy, I
guess explain what came out in court. He actually aimed
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the car right at her.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, he was going around seventy plus miles an hour
and aimed his car at her, and I guess that
caused the screech of the wheel. And she was wearing
a headset and turned around and he hit her straight on.
She went fifty feet in the air, hit a sign
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and landed in the field.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So he hit her.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh, yes, there's no doubt. And he has spent fifteen years.
He will have spent fifteen years in prison.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We've been doing.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Parole now for since twelve years and we found out
that the governor denied it. But what we did find
out is he didn't deny it wholeheartedly. He denied it
and sent it back to the parole board full board
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to review the case one last time.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And why does the parole board think this guy should
be free after what he did? A deliberate, intentional, murderous act.
What's the rationale of parole board? Do they say?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
No? But one put in perspective. First of all, he
was never in general population. He was put in a
mental drug rehab facility, so he's been under observation, taking meds, etc.
Going to plasses, et cetera. Since he's been in prison.
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He went in he killed Emily when he was twenty six,
was put in jail, and then convicted when he was
twenty eight. Finally after one mistrial, and they believe in
there in all their wisdom back by releasing and he's
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okay to go back into society. And I'm just saying,
or has it even been in the general population? So
we have no idea how he's going to react. And
at the board hearing, the Parole Board asked him, how
will you behave if you get angry and he went,
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I'll do deep breathing and meditation. Let me just tell you,
when I'm angry or when you're angry. Does that work
for you? And we're technically stable.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
People, No, it doesn't. There's no instant meditation. You just
you're his wiring is to have extreme anger, to have
an extreme violent act as the resu ault of his anger.
You you don't meditate your way out of that. That's
that's nonsense. That's the feel good, that touchy feeling nonsense
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that they have been embracing for years. How could it work?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, I mean that's why we couldn't wrap our head
around it. And we did a huge letter writing campaign.
I mean I had Senator Ben Allen, Senator Henry Stern,
assembly Person Irwin all wrote letters asking the governor not
to release him. The city councilor here At Maliviu wrote letters,
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the community wrote letters. Everybody reached out. I mean, there
must have been hundreds of letters said saying, don't release
this guy, and they released them. To have released them,
they're going to be releasing him because I just thought
that this was rubber stamp. But I was informed early
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this morning that it's not a rubber so have they
actually look back at it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And so do you have any idea when he gets
released where he's going to go. You're saying he's coming
out of this mental health rehabilitation facility, and and then
why read online?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So we're read online. It takes three months from the
time they say you're you're release till you're released, and
then I have no idea. Does he go back home?
Does he go to a halfway house? Do they let
him out on the street. I mean, technically he's not
allowed to drive, but how's how are they going to
monitor that.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It's very difficult to change internal wiring, and the first
time he's got some kind of tension or he is
disappointed or rejected in some way, it's going to flare
up again. It doesn't change.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Listen, there's no remorse from this guy. It's all been
a game some the day he killed her. And that's
what upsets us because, honestly, John, I don't think about
this guy. He's not in my life, and he won't
be in my life when I don't have to fight
to keep him in prison. I'm just concerned for the
next person, whether it be a child, someone you love
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that this guy loses it and does it again, and
they put him back in prison.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And all these arguments were made, all the letter writers
made the arguments the other politicians, and Newsom rejected all
all those Please.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, I mean when I told a senator Allen he
you know, explicit words, couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
It is It is very difficult. It's considering who it
is Newsome, I can believe it. But in a normal
world this is impossible to believe. It's impossible because I mean,
I obviously I've read all the details of the case,
and you've talked about it on and off the air
many times, and if anybody paid attention to the details
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of this case, you would be absolutely shocked that he
would be considered for parole. This is just this is
just so heinous.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Oh, you know, it's really simple. I'm not a vindictive person,
and my wife's even less. But my feeling is he's
forty one, forty two years old. Let him stay in
prison for another fifteen years so when they were released
it there's no more youth in his mind, there's no
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patten stride in his step.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Let him pay.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
My daughter had only thirteen years and we've been fortunate
in keeping her alive through the m Machine Foundation. But
you know what has this guy done with his life
except take someone else's.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Before you go quickly talk about him Emily sh Shane Foundation,
because I know that's the charity that you and your
wife have been working on ever since Emily died, and
just talk about what it does and how people can
find out more.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Sure so, Emily Shane dot org Ellen runs the Emily
Shane Foundation. She's the executive director, and she built it
up from three children to over eleven hundred to date.
And what we do is we go into middle school
and show children that are falling through the cracks that
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they can succeed. We put them together with a university
student who becomes their mentor tutor, almost a big brother,
someone who doesn't judge them, who they can, who helps
them with their work, helps them succeed, and there's an
unbelievable symbiotic relationship that is established. And you think it's
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only the child that's getting the benefit. Think about it
for a second. When was the last time you hung
around with a ten, eleven, twelve year old that wasn't
yet you weren't related to, and the only cops to
the child is they have to pass it forward. They
have to do a good deed before each mentoring, mentoring, tutoring,
such a.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Back and people find you online. What's the website?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Emily Shane dot org.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Emily Shane dot org. All right, Michelle, talk with you soon.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Thanks so much, John, appreciate it all right.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
More coming up. There is an ad for the first
recall Karen Bass campaign. There's some good news to brighten
your day. We'll play the ad when we come back
and talk about a couple of news bits. The day
after Christine Crowley lost her appeal after getting fired by
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Karen Bass, who remains in hiding.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I continue every day looking for more truth about the fire.
We certainly spent a lot of time on it yesterday,
and we've just got I just got a couple of
things today. And and one is, uh, there's a there's
a lot of people in the Palisades and they're going
online on nextdoor app and other other online message services,
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and and they're trying to figure things out for themselves,
and they're trying to convince other people to understand what's
going on, because you know, you still have pockets of
support for Karen Bass or the the the fire chief,
and and and people also want to want to know.
They want to go in a new direction, They want
a new era to start, They want to rebuild, to
go quickly and successfully. And they know this. This Bass
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growd is a bunch of failed losers. But but what
do you do? Where do you go? How do you organize?
There is a recall effort going on, and uh, I'm
sure eventually get somebody on the air about this. But
all we've got right now is this one minute clip
on recalling Karen Bass. This is an ant so roll
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it the we have a corporate in the next morning minute.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I was trying to contain those massive passageless wildfires.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
At least twenty four people have tragically been killed when
the fires broke out.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
La Mayor Karen Bass was in Africa.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
We know that there was warnings about the weather before
you went.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
When you returned, Instead of answering critical questions from reporters,
she chose to just ignore those questions and stay silent.
Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Weather homes were burned mother, mayor have you absolutely nothing
to say to the citizens today you are dealing with
this disaster.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Really accept coumblat right.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
So there at early times we endorse current Bass.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That's a mistake we.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Had midnight there are calls a Karen Bass to resign
that those calls are getting loud up.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Oh, that's the first recall that on Karen Bass. So
I went into a Karen Bass rabbit hole and I
found a story from November which we talked about on
the air. But that's the thing. You talk about it
for a day, for a segment. Maybe the Times does
the story, maybe this three minutes on Channel eleven, and
then it disappears, and the significance of it is actually enormous.
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This came out November of twenty twenty four, November twenty first,
Doug Smith of the La Times. And this is one
of the root causes. You know Kama Hiris was always
looking for root causes. Well, this is a root cause.
We spent a billion, three hundred million on homelessness for
the twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four fiscal year.
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When I say we spent, well that's what was appropriated.
We actually only spent half of that, over a half
billion dollars was unspent. And that's really important because we
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spend a half billion dollars more on homeless programs than
we do on the fire department, and the difference between
what we spend on the fire department and on the
homeless industry is the same as the money that we
appropriated but never spent last year in Los Angeles. So
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they steal money out of the budget from the fire
department to give it to the homeless, but they don't
actually spend it on the homeless, so the money's not
available to get these people off the streets. So they
stop starting fires, and they start fourteen a year, and
there's no money for the people who put out the fire.
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The money is sitting in bank accounts, unused. And then
the next year they get another billion three even though
there's a half million left over from last year, and
the firemen still don't get any of it. This is
all crazy. This is all absolutely nuts. It's it's just
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it's just stupid management, incompetent management. This is on Karen Bass.
This is the people. The things people don't know because
in because how many people are reading the La Times
these days, right, and a story is posted a few
days before Thanksgiving. I'm sure this got next to no coverage,
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and even if it did, nobody really noticed it or
remembered it. But here is a root cause you have
a half a billion dollars laying around in bank accounts
that should have gone to the fire department. Instead it
goes to the homeless scam. But they don't even spend
it on the homeless. It just doesn't go anywhere. That's incompetence.
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How do you not spend half of the homeless budget.
And of course the half they do spend didn't do
any good anyway, And the fire department still goes unfunded.
Remember the fire department is only half funded, it's only
half staffed. It should have double the money and double
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the staffing. And that doesn't mean you double their salaries.
It means you double the number of people working at
the fire department, you double the number of fire engines
and everything else. But that's just And I stumbled on this.
Somebody had a link on the next door app post
and oh yeah, I forgot about this. I do this
every day and I forget this stuff. How do you
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keep track of it? Nobody puts together the whole story.
That's why I'm trying to tell you what goes on.
People in the palace, says, everybody in the city, in
the county, in the state ought to know this stuff,
all right. Coming up after three o'clock, we're going to
have Todd Bensman on from the Center for Immigration Studies.
He's got a story about the great mass migration to
the US, greatest one in history. It's over the end.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So I tried watching Trump's speech last night. I had
a lot to do last night, so I was like
double distracted trying to do other things. But I had
it on the iPad and I saw most of the
beginning first half hour, which is where all the good
stuff happened. And I couldn't believe, Like it's like listening
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to the city council meeting with Kristin Krowley. I could
believe how stupid many of these congress people are. Maybe
you saw it, maybe you heard about it. All the
Democrats they sat off to Trump's right, and they're all
holding paddles with signs. What a bunch of dumb Clucks.
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I mean, you're holding a paddle up in the air. Well,
what's that gonna do. You're all pissed off that he's president.
You're pissed off that he won the popular vote and
the thirty one states and all the electoral votes. You
pissed off that the Republicans won the House In the Senate.
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Did you ever think that if you didn't have all
these weird, strange beliefs, that you might have won if
you had just done what was obvious. And now you
got kicked out of power and you're holding up paddles.
It's wrong with you? What if you had closed the border?
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Rump did it and in six weeks encounters are down
ninety six percent, ninety six percent, and on top of that,
he's got eighty one percent support among the public. Well,
why didn't you do that? Paddle heads? You could have
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done that. Maybe if you had done that, maybe you
would have won. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 9 (19:30):
You know who was one of the people that was
holding the signs was Melanie Stansbury, the woman we played
the audio from early She yeah, she was the one
holding that this is not normal sign that one of
the Republican senators grabbed out of her hands while Trump
was walking in.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Maybe well, maybe maybe that's why she started shrinking today
at the hearing because holding up the path. I'm looking
at a photo and there are quite a few paddles,
musk steals. Musk steals what? And women are wearing pink
for some reason, the Democratic women. It seems like every
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year they have a new color. They're wearing pink. One
year they're wearing white, another year they're were in black,
they're wearing red. What what does that mean? What's the
color going to do? They're into all this symbolic nonsense,
like little eight year olds protect veterans, Protect veterans. The
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most corrupt, inefficient agency in the federal government is the VA.
I saw this firsthand when there were fifty veterans living
in the street in front of the VA. For four years,
there were fifty vagrant veterans and the VA didn't do
anything to take them in until finally the sleepy town
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I live in on the West Side, they finally revolted
and forced the issue. It's like, well, why didn't you
take the fifty four years ago? I just I don't
understand this era of political people. And then this bozo.
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This is Congressman Al Green, not the singer. It's from Texas.
He was. And again I saw this out of the
corner of my eye. Trump is early on in his speech,
and I see some guy standing waving a cane, and
I know who he was, and I thought, well, who's
this jackass? And he looked like a homeless guy. He
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didn't look like a congressman to me. He looked like
some street person that somehow had gotten in and he's
waving his cane in the air like a weapon. We're
gonna play in the back and forth here, because he
kept heckling Trump interrupting him, and then the Republicans start
booing Green. Well, you'll hear it. Eventually Green gets kicked out.
So play this.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
We won the popular vote by big numbers, and one
counties in our country.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
See there's the Republicans drowning out Al Green, who's just
shouting incoherent nonsense. Look, it looked like a street person.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
And one counties in our country two thousand, seven hundred.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
To five twenty five.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
On a map that reads almost completely read for Republican. Now,
for the first time in modern history, more Americans believe
that our country is headed in the right direction than
the wrong direction. In fact, it's an astonishing Green is
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still a hecky seven point swing, the most ever.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And if you're watching TV, you can't really hear the
heckling that much, but it's it's Trump and Mike Johnson,
the speaker can hear it.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Likewise, small business optimisms are it's single largest one month
game ever recorded, Mister forty.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
One point Mike Johnson.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
Here members are directed to uphold and maintain decorum in
the House and to cease any further disruptions that you're warning.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's like a hockey game.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
Members are engaging in wilflin continuing breach of decorum, and
the Chair is prepared to direct the Sergeant at Arms
to restore order to the joint session.
Speaker 11 (24:00):
What a bunch of barbarians, A bunch of incompetent, ineffectual,
stupid barbarians.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Now all they got left is shouting. They had Green take.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Your seat, Take your seat, sir, take your seat.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Now Green won't sit down.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
Finding that members continue to engage in willful and concert
the disruption or proper decorum, the Chair now directs the
Sergeant at arms to restore order.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Remove this gentleman from the chamber, Trump standing there. I
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didn't notice this last night. They're singing, he kiss him goodbye.
This is what people elect, and you wonder, wonder why
we're all left up.
Speaker 10 (25:13):
Members are directed to uphold and maintain the korum in
the House.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Mister President, you continue, Thank you. Most of those people
don't even know what the word decorum means. They couldn't
even spell it. We got more. Do we have to
quorum on this show?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
No, But I'm going to get a gabble and I'm
going to start pounding it when you're out of order.
Speaker 12 (25:36):
Oh, I'm going to start pounding it when you're out
of order. But then I'm going to be hurting my
hand because I'll be pounding it so much.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFIM six.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
More on this the nutty State of the Union address
last night, where I'm sorry, the Democratic Congress people just
acted like a bunch of stupid children, just a little
childish a holes. Did you say they wouldn't even stand
up and applaud the kid who had brain cancer?
Speaker 12 (26:11):
I did not notice that they didn't stand up. I
was waiting for the cameras to go to that section,
so I didn't. I didn't see whether they did or not.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
All the reports say they didn't stand up, they didn't applaud.
And there's this this little boy suffered from brain cancer,
so touching and his dream is to be a police officer.
And Trump from the podium said, I'm officially making you
an honorary secret service.
Speaker 12 (26:36):
Did you see his eyes when Trump said that?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, and he was so happy and it was it
was a touching moment. And yeah, I know all presidents
do this, they use citizens, and it's usually an emotional,
little uh moment, right, but it truly was something something
sweet and the not only did none of the Democrats
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applaud or stand up and embrace the moment in any
way you had. And I don't watch these shows, but
I saw clips these these whack chob uh anchors on MSNBC.
We're criticizing Trump for that. They ought to be ashamed
for using the little kid as a political prop. It's like,
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you people just jump into an oven. I mean, what
are you doing? Jump into an oven? Jump into an oven? Yes? Wow, yeah,
that's harsh. I'm feeling harsh. I mean, that was just
so now here's some other nutting moments. Well, let's go
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with Al Green again. Al Green was the guy that Trump, uh, well,
that Mike Johnson kicked out of the State of Union
address because he was standing there like a vagrant, waving
a waving a cane in the air. And you know
you can't hear him on TV anyway. He's not miked up.
So I didn't. I don't want unless you try to
hit Trump with it, I don't know what you're going
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to accomplish. Here here's Green talking to the media afterwards.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
So you shouting to the president.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
The President said he had a mandate, and I was
making it clear to the president that he has no
mandate to cut Medicaid. I have people who are very fearful.
These are poor people and they have only Medicaid in
their lives when it comes to their healthcare. And I
want him to know what is that his budget calls
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for deep cuts in Medicaid. He needs to save Medicaid,
protect it. We need to raise the cap on Social Security.
There's a possibility and it's going to be hurt, and
we've got to protect Medicare.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
These are the safety net. I doubt any of that's true,
but we'll go with it. That's for a committee hearing.
Since Congress is in charge of the budget, right, all
money spent comes out of the House, and it starts
with the committees. And then you fight over that, standing
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with a cane, waving it in the air at the
President and shouting and nobody at home can understand what
you're doing, and you look like a nut, and then
you get thrown out. Kind of misses the point. And
by the way, there's stuff that's going to be cut
from Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security because there is a
huge amount of fraud, a tremendous amount of fraud. They
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think there's one hundred billion dollars a year in Medicare fraud.
One hundred billion a year. I can't imagine the Medicaid fraud.
I mean here in California, that money goes to a
large extent of illegal aliens. So god knows what they're
going to find.
Speaker 12 (29:51):
What did you think of the Social Security and all
the waste? They are people three hundred years old, obviously
they're not alive, but social Security going to people one
hundred and fifty years old. Enough, this this amount, this amount,
and that was crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, I know, it's just insanity, that's what they're defending.
If that's I mean, if that's true. I find it
hard to believe three hundred years old, three three hundred
years old, if somebody's still getting a check at the
age of three hundred and you're telling me that Elon
Musk and Trump shouldn't be going line by line over
every single expenditure. Can you imagine what's gone on there.
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Nobody's wanted to look at it. Neither party has ever
wanted to do this. So this is this is built
up for over decades. He started carrying on about all
the money we sent to Ukraine, and that was the
one time the Democratic the Democrats applauded because they're happy
about sending three hundred and fifty billion dollars to Ukraine.
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I don't know why that much money for no result.
Listening to cut number four.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
The United States has said hundreds of billions of dollars
to support Ukraine's defense with no security, with no.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Innyferent Democrats clapping there, two hundred and fifty billion for
a war nobody's won. Do you want to keep it going.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
For another five years?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (31:24):
Yeah, you would say Pocahonta says, yes, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Heard that one in five years.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
Two thousand people are being killed every single week.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
More than that.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
They're Russian young people, they're Ukrainian young people.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
They're not Americans.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
But I wanted to stop.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
That was Elizabeth Warren getting some attention. All right, we
come back. Todd Benjamin has a story center for Immigration Studies.
The greatest mass migration border crisis in US history is over.
He has been writing for years and years at the border,
chronicling all the insanity and chaos, and Trump stopped it
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cold ninety six percent, fewer engagements at the border ninety
six percent. And he's got the support of over eighty
percent of the public. And Todd Bendon. I don't know
what Todd's going to cover now. Dever Mark live in
the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening
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until four o'clock and then after four o'clock you can
listen to the podcast John Colbet's show on demand on
the iHeart app. This story really means something to me personally.
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One of our friends, Michelle Shane in Malibu. He and
his wife Ellen suffered the worst tragedy back in twenty ten.
Their thirteen year old daughter was run down a Pacific
Coast highway by a crazed driver named Sina Kankanion, and
it came out in court that he actually it was
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very angry, very emotionally upset, and aimed his car right
at Emily and he was eventually it was kind of
a long running legal case. He eventually was from murder
fifteen years to life, but eligible for parole after twelve
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well twelve years more or less has passed and he's
gotten parole from the pro board. Newsom was the last
stop and Gavin Newsom rejected Michelle and Ellen Shane's appeal
and now Sena Konkanyan is going to be released after
just twelve years. Nowhere near the fifteen to life, and
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I'm going to talk to Michelle now about that and
also about what kind of mental condition is Sena Kankanian
being released in considering the way he's been living the
last few years in prison. Let's get to Michelle. Michelle,
thank you for coming on again.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Heank John, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah. I know this isn't easy, but I do think
people should hear all this because it's hard to believe
this goes on. So, your daughter, as we've talked about
a number of times, was run down on PCH. You
were going to pick her up and this guy, I
guess explain what came out in court. He actually aimed
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the car right at her.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, he was going around seventy plus miles an hour
and aimed his car at her, and I guess that
caused the screech of the wheel. And she was wearing
a headset and turned around and he hit her straight on.
She went fifty feet in the air, hit a sign
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and landed in the field.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So he hit her.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Oh, yes, there's no doubt. And he has spent fifteen years.
He will have spent fifteen years in prison.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We've been doing.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Parole now for since twelve years and we found out
that the governor denied it. But what we did find
out is he didn't deny it wholeheartedly. He denied it
and sent it back to the parole board full board
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to review the case one last time.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And why does the parole board think this guy should
be free after what he did? A deliberate, intentional, murderous act.
What's the rationale of parole board? Do they say?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
No? But one put in perspective. First of all, he
was never in general population. He was put in a
mental drug rehab facility, so he's been under observation, taking meds, etc.
Going to plasses, et cetera. Since he's been in prison.
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He went in he killed Emily when he was twenty six,
was put in jail, and then convicted when he was
twenty eight. Finally after one mistrial, and they believe in
there in all their wisdom back by releasing and he's
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okay to go back into society. And I'm just saying,
or has it even been in the general population? So
we have no idea how he's going to react. And
at the board hearing, the Parole Board asked him, how
will you behave if you get angry and he went,
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I'll do deep breathing and meditation. Let me just tell you,
when I'm angry or when you're angry. Does that work
for you? And we're technically stable.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
People, No, it doesn't. There's no instant meditation. You just
you're his wiring is to have extreme anger, to have
an extreme violent act as the resu ault of his anger.
You you don't meditate your way out of that. That's
that's nonsense. That's the feel good, that touchy feeling nonsense
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that they have been embracing for years. How could it work?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, I mean that's why we couldn't wrap our head
around it. And we did a huge letter writing campaign.
I mean I had Senator Ben Allen, Senator Henry Stern,
assembly Person Irwin all wrote letters asking the governor not
to release him. The city councilor here At Maliviu wrote letters,
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the community wrote letters. Everybody reached out. I mean, there
must have been hundreds of letters said saying, don't release
this guy, and they released them. To have released them,
they're going to be releasing him because I just thought
that this was rubber stamp. But I was informed early
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this morning that it's not a rubber so have they
actually look back at it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And so do you have any idea when he gets
released where he's going to go. You're saying he's coming
out of this mental health rehabilitation facility, and and then
why read online?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
So we're read online. It takes three months from the
time they say you're you're release till you're released, and
then I have no idea. Does he go back home?
Does he go to a halfway house? Do they let
him out on the street. I mean, technically he's not
allowed to drive, but how's how are they going to
monitor that.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It's very difficult to change internal wiring, and the first
time he's got some kind of tension or he is
disappointed or rejected in some way, it's going to flare
up again. It doesn't change.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Listen, there's no remorse from this guy. It's all been
a game some the day he killed her. And that's
what upsets us because, honestly, John, I don't think about
this guy. He's not in my life, and he won't
be in my life when I don't have to fight
to keep him in prison. I'm just concerned for the
next person, whether it be a child, someone you love
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that this guy loses it and does it again, and
they put him back in prison.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And all these arguments were made, all the letter writers
made the arguments the other politicians, and Newsom rejected all
all those Please.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, I mean when I told a senator Allen he
you know, explicit words, couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
It is It is very difficult. It's considering who it
is Newsome, I can believe it. But in a normal
world this is impossible to believe. It's impossible because I mean,
I obviously I've read all the details of the case,
and you've talked about it on and off the air
many times, and if anybody paid attention to the details
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of this case, you would be absolutely shocked that he
would be considered for parole. This is just this is
just so heinous.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Oh, you know, it's really simple. I'm not a vindictive person,
and my wife's even less. But my feeling is he's
forty one, forty two years old. Let him stay in
prison for another fifteen years so when they were released
it there's no more youth in his mind, there's no
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patten stride in his step.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Let him pay.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
My daughter had only thirteen years and we've been fortunate
in keeping her alive through the m Machine Foundation. But
you know what has this guy done with his life
except take someone else's.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Before you go quickly talk about him Emily sh Shane Foundation,
because I know that's the charity that you and your
wife have been working on ever since Emily died, and
just talk about what it does and how people can
find out more.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Sure so, Emily Shane dot org Ellen runs the Emily
Shane Foundation. She's the executive director, and she built it
up from three children to over eleven hundred to date.
And what we do is we go into middle school
and show children that are falling through the cracks that
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they can succeed. We put them together with a university
student who becomes their mentor tutor, almost a big brother,
someone who doesn't judge them, who they can, who helps
them with their work, helps them succeed, and there's an
unbelievable symbiotic relationship that is established. And you think it's
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only the child that's getting the benefit. Think about it
for a second. When was the last time you hung
around with a ten, eleven, twelve year old that wasn't
yet you weren't related to, and the only cops to
the child is they have to pass it forward. They
have to do a good deed before each mentoring, mentoring, tutoring,
such a.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Back and people find you online. What's the website?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Emily Shane dot org.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Emily Shane dot org. All right, Michelle, talk with you soon.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Thanks so much, John, appreciate it all right.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
More coming up. There is an ad for the first
recall Karen Bass campaign. There's some good news to brighten
your day. We'll play the ad when we come back
and talk about a couple of news bits. The day
after Christine Crowley lost her appeal after getting fired by
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Karen Bass, who remains in hiding.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I continue every day looking for more truth about the fire.
We certainly spent a lot of time on it yesterday,
and we've just got I just got a couple of
things today. And and one is, uh, there's a there's
a lot of people in the Palisades and they're going
online on nextdoor app and other other online message services,
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and and they're trying to figure things out for themselves,
and they're trying to convince other people to understand what's
going on, because you know, you still have pockets of
support for Karen Bass or the the the fire chief,
and and and people also want to want to know.
They want to go in a new direction, They want
a new era to start, They want to rebuild, to
go quickly and successfully. And they know this. This Bass
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growd is a bunch of failed losers. But but what
do you do? Where do you go? How do you organize?
There is a recall effort going on, and uh, I'm
sure eventually get somebody on the air about this. But
all we've got right now is this one minute clip
on recalling Karen Bass. This is an ant so roll
(12:08):
it the we have a corporate in the next morning minute.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
I was trying to contain those massive passageless wildfires.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
At least twenty four people have tragically been killed when
the fires broke out.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
La Mayor Karen Bass was in Africa.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
We know that there was warnings about the weather before
you went.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
When you returned, Instead of answering critical questions from reporters,
she chose to just ignore those questions and stay silent.
Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Weather homes were burned mother, mayor have you absolutely nothing
to say to the citizens today you are dealing with
this disaster.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Really accept coumblat right.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
So there at early times we endorse current Bass.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That's a mistake we.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Had midnight there are calls a Karen Bass to resign
that those calls are getting loud up.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Oh, that's the first recall that on Karen Bass. So
I went into a Karen Bass rabbit hole and I
found a story from November which we talked about on
the air. But that's the thing. You talk about it
for a day, for a segment. Maybe the Times does
the story, maybe this three minutes on Channel eleven, and
then it disappears, and the significance of it is actually enormous.
(13:33):
This came out November of twenty twenty four, November twenty first,
Doug Smith of the La Times. And this is one
of the root causes. You know Kama Hiris was always
looking for root causes. Well, this is a root cause.
We spent a billion, three hundred million on homelessness for
the twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four fiscal year.
(13:57):
When I say we spent, well that's what was appropriated.
We actually only spent half of that, over a half
billion dollars was unspent. And that's really important because we
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spend a half billion dollars more on homeless programs than
we do on the fire department, and the difference between
what we spend on the fire department and on the
homeless industry is the same as the money that we
appropriated but never spent last year in Los Angeles. So
(14:43):
they steal money out of the budget from the fire
department to give it to the homeless, but they don't
actually spend it on the homeless, so the money's not
available to get these people off the streets. So they
stop starting fires, and they start fourteen a year, and
there's no money for the people who put out the fire.
(15:07):
The money is sitting in bank accounts, unused. And then
the next year they get another billion three even though
there's a half million left over from last year, and
the firemen still don't get any of it. This is
all crazy. This is all absolutely nuts. It's it's just
(15:32):
it's just stupid management, incompetent management. This is on Karen Bass.
This is the people. The things people don't know because
in because how many people are reading the La Times
these days, right, and a story is posted a few
days before Thanksgiving. I'm sure this got next to no coverage,
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and even if it did, nobody really noticed it or
remembered it. But here is a root cause you have
a half a billion dollars laying around in bank accounts
that should have gone to the fire department. Instead it
goes to the homeless scam. But they don't even spend
it on the homeless. It just doesn't go anywhere. That's incompetence.
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How do you not spend half of the homeless budget.
And of course the half they do spend didn't do
any good anyway, And the fire department still goes unfunded.
Remember the fire department is only half funded, it's only
half staffed. It should have double the money and double
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the staffing. And that doesn't mean you double their salaries.
It means you double the number of people working at
the fire department, you double the number of fire engines
and everything else. But that's just And I stumbled on this.
Somebody had a link on the next door app post
and oh yeah, I forgot about this. I do this
every day and I forget this stuff. How do you
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keep track of it? Nobody puts together the whole story.
That's why I'm trying to tell you what goes on.
People in the palace, says, everybody in the city, in
the county, in the state ought to know this stuff,
all right. Coming up after three o'clock, we're going to
have Todd Bensman on from the Center for Immigration Studies.
He's got a story about the great mass migration to
the US, greatest one in history. It's over the end.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
So I tried watching Trump's speech last night. I had
a lot to do last night, so I was like
double distracted trying to do other things. But I had
it on the iPad and I saw most of the
beginning first half hour, which is where all the good
stuff happened. And I couldn't believe, Like it's like listening
(17:53):
to the city council meeting with Kristin Krowley. I could
believe how stupid many of these congress people are. Maybe
you saw it, maybe you heard about it. All the
Democrats they sat off to Trump's right, and they're all
holding paddles with signs. What a bunch of dumb Clucks.
(18:17):
I mean, you're holding a paddle up in the air. Well,
what's that gonna do. You're all pissed off that he's president.
You're pissed off that he won the popular vote and
the thirty one states and all the electoral votes. You
pissed off that the Republicans won the House In the Senate.
(18:39):
Did you ever think that if you didn't have all
these weird, strange beliefs, that you might have won if
you had just done what was obvious. And now you
got kicked out of power and you're holding up paddles.
It's wrong with you? What if you had closed the border?
(19:00):
Rump did it and in six weeks encounters are down
ninety six percent, ninety six percent, and on top of that,
he's got eighty one percent support among the public. Well,
why didn't you do that? Paddle heads? You could have
(19:21):
done that. Maybe if you had done that, maybe you
would have won. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 9 (19:30):
You know who was one of the people that was
holding the signs was Melanie Stansbury, the woman we played
the audio from early She yeah, she was the one
holding that this is not normal sign that one of
the Republican senators grabbed out of her hands while Trump
was walking in.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Maybe well, maybe maybe that's why she started shrinking today
at the hearing because holding up the path. I'm looking
at a photo and there are quite a few paddles,
musk steals. Musk steals what? And women are wearing pink
for some reason, the Democratic women. It seems like every
(20:05):
year they have a new color. They're wearing pink. One
year they're wearing white, another year they're were in black,
they're wearing red. What what does that mean? What's the
color going to do? They're into all this symbolic nonsense,
like little eight year olds protect veterans, Protect veterans. The
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most corrupt, inefficient agency in the federal government is the VA.
I saw this firsthand when there were fifty veterans living
in the street in front of the VA. For four years,
there were fifty vagrant veterans and the VA didn't do
anything to take them in until finally the sleepy town
(20:52):
I live in on the West Side, they finally revolted
and forced the issue. It's like, well, why didn't you
take the fifty four years ago? I just I don't
understand this era of political people. And then this bozo.
(21:15):
This is Congressman Al Green, not the singer. It's from Texas.
He was. And again I saw this out of the
corner of my eye. Trump is early on in his speech,
and I see some guy standing waving a cane, and
I know who he was, and I thought, well, who's
this jackass? And he looked like a homeless guy. He
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didn't look like a congressman to me. He looked like
some street person that somehow had gotten in and he's
waving his cane in the air like a weapon. We're
gonna play in the back and forth here, because he
kept heckling Trump interrupting him, and then the Republicans start
booing Green. Well, you'll hear it. Eventually Green gets kicked out.
So play this.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
We won the popular vote by big numbers, and one
counties in our country.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
See there's the Republicans drowning out Al Green, who's just
shouting incoherent nonsense. Look, it looked like a street person.
Speaker 8 (22:30):
And one counties in our country two thousand, seven hundred.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
To five twenty five.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
On a map that reads almost completely read for Republican. Now,
for the first time in modern history, more Americans believe
that our country is headed in the right direction than
the wrong direction. In fact, it's an astonishing Green is
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still a hecky seven point swing, the most ever.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
And if you're watching TV, you can't really hear the
heckling that much, but it's it's Trump and Mike Johnson,
the speaker can hear it.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Likewise, small business optimisms are it's single largest one month
game ever recorded, Mister forty.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
One point Mike Johnson.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
Here members are directed to uphold and maintain decorum in
the House and to cease any further disruptions that you're warning.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's like a hockey game.
Speaker 10 (23:47):
Members are engaging in wilflin continuing breach of decorum, and
the Chair is prepared to direct the Sergeant at Arms
to restore order to the joint session.
Speaker 11 (24:00):
What a bunch of barbarians, A bunch of incompetent, ineffectual,
stupid barbarians.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Now all they got left is shouting. They had Green take.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Your seat, Take your seat, sir, take your seat.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Now Green won't sit down.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
Finding that members continue to engage in willful and concert
the disruption or proper decorum, the Chair now directs the
Sergeant at arms to restore order.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Remove this gentleman from the chamber, Trump standing there. I
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didn't notice this last night. They're singing, he kiss him goodbye.
This is what people elect, and you wonder, wonder why
we're all left up.
Speaker 10 (25:13):
Members are directed to uphold and maintain the korum in
the House.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Mister President, you continue, Thank you. Most of those people
don't even know what the word decorum means. They couldn't
even spell it. We got more. Do we have to
quorum on this show?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (25:33):
No, But I'm going to get a gabble and I'm
going to start pounding it when you're out of order.
Speaker 12 (25:36):
Oh, I'm going to start pounding it when you're out
of order. But then I'm going to be hurting my
hand because I'll be pounding it so much.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFIM six.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
More on this the nutty State of the Union address
last night, where I'm sorry, the Democratic Congress people just
acted like a bunch of stupid children, just a little
childish a holes. Did you say they wouldn't even stand
up and applaud the kid who had brain cancer?
Speaker 12 (26:11):
I did not notice that they didn't stand up. I
was waiting for the cameras to go to that section,
so I didn't. I didn't see whether they did or not.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
All the reports say they didn't stand up, they didn't applaud.
And there's this this little boy suffered from brain cancer,
so touching and his dream is to be a police officer.
And Trump from the podium said, I'm officially making you
an honorary secret service.
Speaker 12 (26:36):
Did you see his eyes when Trump said that?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, and he was so happy and it was it
was a touching moment. And yeah, I know all presidents
do this, they use citizens, and it's usually an emotional,
little uh moment, right, but it truly was something something
sweet and the not only did none of the Democrats
(27:01):
applaud or stand up and embrace the moment in any
way you had. And I don't watch these shows, but
I saw clips these these whack chob uh anchors on MSNBC.
We're criticizing Trump for that. They ought to be ashamed
for using the little kid as a political prop. It's like,
(27:21):
you people just jump into an oven. I mean, what
are you doing? Jump into an oven? Jump into an oven? Yes? Wow, yeah,
that's harsh. I'm feeling harsh. I mean, that was just
so now here's some other nutting moments. Well, let's go
(27:43):
with Al Green again. Al Green was the guy that Trump, uh, well,
that Mike Johnson kicked out of the State of Union
address because he was standing there like a vagrant, waving
a waving a cane in the air. And you know
you can't hear him on TV anyway. He's not miked up.
So I didn't. I don't want unless you try to
hit Trump with it, I don't know what you're going
(28:05):
to accomplish. Here here's Green talking to the media afterwards.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
So you shouting to the president.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
The President said he had a mandate, and I was
making it clear to the president that he has no
mandate to cut Medicaid. I have people who are very fearful.
These are poor people and they have only Medicaid in
their lives when it comes to their healthcare. And I
want him to know what is that his budget calls
(28:34):
for deep cuts in Medicaid. He needs to save Medicaid,
protect it. We need to raise the cap on Social Security.
There's a possibility and it's going to be hurt, and
we've got to protect Medicare.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
These are the safety net. I doubt any of that's true,
but we'll go with it. That's for a committee hearing.
Since Congress is in charge of the budget, right, all
money spent comes out of the House, and it starts
with the committees. And then you fight over that, standing
(29:09):
with a cane, waving it in the air at the
President and shouting and nobody at home can understand what
you're doing, and you look like a nut, and then
you get thrown out. Kind of misses the point. And
by the way, there's stuff that's going to be cut
from Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security because there is a
huge amount of fraud, a tremendous amount of fraud. They
(29:31):
think there's one hundred billion dollars a year in Medicare fraud.
One hundred billion a year. I can't imagine the Medicaid fraud.
I mean here in California, that money goes to a
large extent of illegal aliens. So god knows what they're
going to find.
Speaker 12 (29:51):
What did you think of the Social Security and all
the waste? They are people three hundred years old, obviously
they're not alive, but social Security going to people one
hundred and fifty years old. Enough, this this amount, this amount,
and that was crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, I know, it's just insanity, that's what they're defending.
If that's I mean, if that's true. I find it
hard to believe three hundred years old, three three hundred
years old, if somebody's still getting a check at the
age of three hundred and you're telling me that Elon
Musk and Trump shouldn't be going line by line over
every single expenditure. Can you imagine what's gone on there.
(30:28):
Nobody's wanted to look at it. Neither party has ever
wanted to do this. So this is this is built
up for over decades. He started carrying on about all
the money we sent to Ukraine, and that was the
one time the Democratic the Democrats applauded because they're happy
about sending three hundred and fifty billion dollars to Ukraine.
(30:50):
I don't know why that much money for no result.
Listening to cut number four.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
The United States has said hundreds of billions of dollars
to support Ukraine's defense with no security, with no.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Innyferent Democrats clapping there, two hundred and fifty billion for
a war nobody's won. Do you want to keep it going.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
For another five years?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (31:24):
Yeah, you would say Pocahonta says, yes, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Heard that one in five years.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
Two thousand people are being killed every single week.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
More than that.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
They're Russian young people, they're Ukrainian young people.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
They're not Americans.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
But I wanted to stop.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
That was Elizabeth Warren getting some attention. All right, we
come back. Todd Benjamin has a story center for Immigration Studies.
The greatest mass migration border crisis in US history is over.
He has been writing for years and years at the border,
chronicling all the insanity and chaos, and Trump stopped it
(32:15):
cold ninety six percent, fewer engagements at the border ninety
six percent. And he's got the support of over eighty
percent of the public. And Todd Bendon. I don't know
what Todd's going to cover now. Dever Mark live in
the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening
to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!