June 7, 2024 • 27 mins
Kerri Kasem --June 15th, is World Elder Abuse Awareness Day, the day Casey passed away. 10 years since the death of Casey Kasem // Kerri Kasem the fight against Elder Abuse // Vanna White says farewell to Pat Sajack on his final spin // Apollo 8 astronaut William Anders, 80, killed in plane crash off Washington coast / Santa Monica store manager confronts shoplifter, forces her to return stolen items
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It's KFI AM six forty and you'relistening to The Conway Show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. Legendary guys CaseyCasem I mean you know Casey K.
Steffush you know on Casey Casem Ryan, Yes you do. I mean really
broadcast legend, remarkable story, personalstory about how he really built this thing
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that became so much a part ofAmerica and American broadcast culture, you know,
American Top forty and beyond. Imean, he's a giant voiceover guy
in cartoons and all the rest,and just he's still syndicated and actually on
Sundays after my shift here at KFIon a radio station, I do listen
to him on my job. Ohthat's so cool. I just love that
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kind of thing. Yeah, youhear his voice and like everything's right with
the world, you know, Yeah, you got it. Yeah. Well,
his daughter is an extraordinary person aswell. I mean, she's been
this crusader for for legislation and fordoing something about the increasing problem of elder
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abuse, and sadly her dad wasa part of them. I will let
her talk about it, and I'llstop talking about it. But how about
it for Carrie Casem Hi Carrie,Hi, Mark, So good to talk
to you again. Yeah, I'ma big fan personally and professionally, and
we owe each other a personal catchup call at some point. But now
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I wanted to ask you. Yeah, you're so. They tell me that
you're going to Norway to visit yourfather's grave for the first time in ten
years. I'm wondering, first,how did Casey Caseum end up in Norway.
Oh, that's a long story,but I guess the short version of
it was my stepmother kept us awayfrom him in life and even in death,
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so she decided when she couldn't gethim into Israel. My dad,
an Arab American, his family comesfrom Lebanon, tried to bury him in
Israel. They said no, shefalsified his death certificate. It said they'd
been living in Israel for eighteen years, and they my dad don't think well,
he told me he's never been toIsrael. And in fact, when
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you have your passport stamps with youknow you've gone to Lebanon. If you
have a hard time getting into Israel, you know. So it was she
tried that, then she tried France. They both denied her. She tried
Canada. I got on that's whereher boyfriend was from. So I kind
of went off on that in themedias. So she moved and then she
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wrote a false letter seeing she wasNorwegian and that my father and her were
going to move there for retirement.Oh yeah, I remember now all the
court cases in the it was justbrutal and you felt that your dad,
this man who deserved you know,a peaceful finish to his life, was
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being dragged through all of it.Yeah. So it was the worst for
him, you know, he sufferedthe most. And it was that that
really made you acutely aware of whatwe needed to do in this country and
around the world for elder abuse.Absolutely. You know, when I went
you know, public about this thatI couldn't see my dad and it got
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everywhere. I got started getting lettersand emails and social media, you know,
like DM saying this is happening tome too, Please help me.
Nobody will listen, nobody will,you know, And we've now for the
last ten years, my team andI and many advocates has like shone a
light on what's going on. AndI think with the Britney Spears case,
you know, with her conservatorship herguardianship that it showed the world like,
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look if this can happen to BritneySpears or Casey casem or Glenn Campbell,
Mickey Rooney, like it goes onand on and on, Michelle Nichols from
Star Trek, this can happen tothem, It can happen to anybody,
and it does, and it's happenedto thousands of people who are conserved or
under guardianship. And it's literally like, you know, they put you in
a conservative ship that over medicates you, and they steal your state. So
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it's it's isolate, over medicate stillthe estate. That's what the advocates say,
and it's very true, and it'sso unfortunate, and this is what's
going on in this country. Sofor the last ten years I've been advocating
for visitation rights for loved ones becausethe first thing an abuser does, whether
it's elder abuse or it's child abuseor domestic violence, is you isolate the
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individual and then you can do whateveryou want to them, and that's what
happens in these abuse cases, especiallywith the elderly and the vulnerable. So
I've been you know, we havea bill right now with Senator Susan Rubio,
but the state Capitol, and it'sit's better than the one we created
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ten years ago. A yeah,which with Mike Gatto. Assembly than Mike
Gatto, and but it's having ahard time kind of getting through with what
we want. Why is that?I mean, it seems as though we're
all on the same team on thisfollow the money trail. If it's the
guardians. And I'm not saying allguardians are bad, they're not, but
when you have a predatory guardian,they are dangerous and they know the loopholes
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and they know the law. Alot of times they're lawyers. So you
find these predatory guardians and they willdo everything. They will villify the family
members, they will lie, andit's the first time in you know,
I hear a lot of this thatpeople they're lawyers and people that are on
our site say, how is thejudge taking this? Hearsay vilifying Like,
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I'll tell you something, and thebiggest red flag ever and you'll know exactly
when you're dealing with a predator.He vilifies all the family members and loved
ones, all of them. Soif you if you find a guardian or
conservator that's saying, hey, thisis this person is not good for them,
this person is volatile. Maybe it'smaybe it's a family member or a
friend. They shouldn't visit one.I get it. When you're vilifying all
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all of the people who've been aroundthat person their whole life, you're looking
at the perpetrator. You're looking atthem right there. So that's what happens.
They don't allow anybody, They isolate, their over medicating, and they're
slowly draining the estates. You don'twork your entire life to have all of
your money go to some stranger.You work your entire life to give money
to your children, or your almamater, or to your pets or whatever
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you want to leave your money too, Sure not to some guardian that has
come in isolated you and kept yourfamily away. And you suffer, and
the family suffers. And I seethis over and over and over again.
You know we were up in Sacramento. Hold that carry stand by. Would
you mind just stand through the breakwith us? Yeah? I think it's
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such an important conversation. And evenas you're talking, I'm getting emails saying
it happened to me. It happenedto me, also, so I think
it does. Sadly, it landswith a lot of us who are not
as high profile as the Caseum family, you know, but nonetheless suffer in
the same way. So Carrie Casemgoing for a visit, if I can
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call it that, I mean itis that. But it's the first time
she's seen her father's grave in Norwaynow ten years after his passing, and
will continue her organization as Caseum Cares. And I'll give you more information on
the other side of the break.It's the Conway Show. You're listening to
Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFIAM six forty talking to Carrie Caseum.
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Carrie, of course, the daughterof Casey Casem, who was an American
institution beloved by everyone. I mean, if you speak to anybody about Casey
Casem, they will just tell youhow spectacular he was, not only as
a broadcaster, but as like literallymaybe one of the nicest people in all
of show business. He was anI had the great honor of knowing him
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a little bit, and my interactionswere informed by just those things, by
how insanely charitable and terrific he was. So Carrie, your dad was all
those things and and more. Andit's been ten years since he passed it
away, and you have started thisorganization in service of those issues that he
had to deal with. I mean, he was trucked around by your stepmother
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and you suggest that there was realabuse here and you've started case some cares,
so that we were saying before thebreak, that whole effort has been
to craft some kind of legislation thatwill protect and I wonder what that legislation
looks like. I mean, howcan you protect elderly people who are in
the care of others. I meanthe first step is the visitation bill that
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I've been working on for the lastten years. Actually it started, you
know, I'd say six months beforemy father passed because I was told by
my first two lawyers I would neverwin a case over a wife of thirty
four years. But I proved theegregious elder abuse and that's why I got
conservatorship over my father. So whenI did, my so mother took him
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out of the convalescent center that shewas she'd put him in and took him
to three different states, hiding himfrom us, causing major bed stores in
sections throughout his whole body severe painand when I found him in Washington State,
when Adult Protective Services was called onher. Uh, that's how we
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found him. We I went,I went to Washington with my conservatorship,
and it was no good because youcan't cross state lines with it. So
I had to fight all over again, and it took weeks and I finally
got my dad to a hospital,but by then it was too late.
So yeah, it was. Itwas horrible. So I just didn't want
anybody else to go through this.And that's that's you know, been working
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on the bill for eleven years andI have I had twelve states that my
team and I Case and Carrots personallygot visitation build in because once you stop
the isolation and you start allowing friendsand family members then to see the loved
one, there's less abuse, oryou can document the abuse, and that's
exactly what they don't want you todo. It makes total sense. It
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makes total sense that that is thethe crack in the door you need to
perhaps stop whatever is going on.So case cares is what is it,
caseomcares dot com or dot org orwhat or either way we'll take you there.
But yeah, casromcares dot org ordot com bolk will go ok.
And if you're having uh, ifyou're having this same thing happened to you,
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or it sounds like it's going tohappen because prevention. If the red
flags are you know, you can'ttalk to mom or dad. Oh they're
too tired to come to the phone. They're not getting your mail, they're
not getting your things, they're youknow, you're being slowly isolated. You
got to hit it now, rightnow. It's it's almost a game of
who gets the conservatorship or guardianship.It's where it's called everywhere, who gets
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that guardianship first? And if youif it lands in the wrong hands,
trying to get your loved one outof guardianship takes a lot of money,
and even with that, they maynever get out of guardianship. I got
a I got an email from lawyerLaurie who suggested me that the movie I
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Care a Lot, which came outa couple of years ago, it was
actually a very good film and itspeaks to the big business that's associated with
these predatory guardians. That's right,that's exactly right. I got so many
calls after that came out. Ohmy gosh, look they finally did something
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on our stories. It's like it'sso crazy and you think, you know,
there's some parts that go, Iguess a little overboard, but when
you're when you've seen and heard somany horrific things, when you're in in
it, it's not so crazy andit's very true. And there's there's another
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there's another movie, and it's adocumentary called The Guardians. It's made by
Billy Mints, and it literally documentsthese poor people that have been put in
these guardianships and everything taken from them. They're states leashed everything and some of
these people don't even have that much, but what they did was taken from
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them. And when they're used upand spit out and they're not dead,
they throw them right out. It'sjust it's also heartbreaking. So The Guardian
is the documentary and the I carea lot in film was the dramatic story.
It's a really good movie. Isaw it. It was rich.
So June fifteenth is World Elder AbuseAwareness Day, and that's the day that
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Casey Case passed away. Yeah,and so you guys day that year,
Yeah, his Father's Day and itwas World Older of These Awareness Day.
The day he died. So Ido believe that was like a sign my
dad said, you're on the righttrack. Keep going. And you know,
the one day he picked a passand I do believe that. I
do believe he held on for that. It's just too much of a coincidence,
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right, So it's just really it'sreally spurred me to keep going and
keep doing the right thing, andkeep getting these laws changed, no matter
how much I'm up against and nomatter how much you know, it's unbelievable
how long it takes to get oneof these bills passed. It seems like,
well, that's what I'm thinking,simply, Yeah, I can't believe
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it's taken so long. I mean, everyone should be on the same side
here. So it's caseomcares dot orgfor more. I think a lot of
people have lived or fear living whatyou have been through. I congratulate you
on how far you've come. Ijust think you're great, and you know,
I love your dad. So onething, if people want to listen
to what happened not just through myeyes, but through the caretakers, through
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the doctors, from my father,like it's like a deposition of all these
people we put together in an docuseriespodcast called Bitter Blood Caseum Versus Case,
and you won't believe it. It'salmost like a true crime. It's so
crazy what happened, and not justhearing it from my voice, but from
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everybody else who lived it too.I love it. I'll check it out.
It's Bitter Blood Case Versus Case fromthe podcast podcast series Terrific Carrie,
thank you, good luck and againcongratulations. Are all good work? You've
done? All right? Carry casefrom everybody? Yeah, wow, such
a fan of her father did suchgreat work. He left a message on
my answering machine years ago. Iinvited him to my home for a housewarming
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and he got lost and he lefta message on the machine. And it
was back then you had machines,you know. So I really could have
saved it. And I don't knowwhat happened to it, why I didn't
save it. It was, youknow, Mark, this is Casey.
I'm lost, but I'm looking forwardto finding your place. It looks like
a wonderful neighborhood. Like wow,I thought it's unreal. And he did
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make it to the place. Hemade it by for the housewarming, so
quite special. Indeed. Anyway,she's really doing heroic work, great stuff.
You're listening to Tim conwaytun you're ondemand from KFI AM six forty Tiffany
Hobbs in for mo tonight at seveno'clock. Well, you know it had
to happen, and please don't gettoo choked up. But after forty one
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seasons, Pat Say, Jack andVana White are wrapping up as a team.
Now. I'm is Vana going tocontinue? Though? Andrew? Do
you know? Is Vana White continueleave one series? I heard okay,
so she will help ease I'm anaudition. Don't think you're quite right for
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it. I I'd love for youto leave your picture and resume and maybe
we can review options. But justhave to be honest with you. I
don't think it's quite what we're lookingfor. But Vanna special, right,
and she she's the emotion in theshow. You see. You don't hear
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a lot from her most She touchesthe screen and it changes letters. Where's
where's the emotion? Oh? Ithought you were going to say, and
it changes lives. That's the wayI see it too. Yeah, but
she was emotional about saying goodbye toPat Say. Jared, I can't believe
that tomorrow is our last show together. And by the way, this is
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the long version. There is acut down version that's out there on Good
Morning America and Entertainment Tonight, etcetera. But the boys and girls come
here for the long version, don'tthey, Sharon. They want the real
Yeah, and that's what we're playingthem. This is the long version of
Vanna's Farewell to Pat. I can'tbelieve that tomorrow is our last show together.
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I don't know how to put intowords what these past forty one years
have meant to me, but I'mgoing to try, well, try spelling
it out in letters, if youwould, Vana, I just eight thousand
episodes went by like that. WhenI first started, I was so green.
You made me so comfortable and mademe so confident. Pat, you
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made me who I am. Youreally did. As the years have gone
by, I've grown to resent youas the years have gone by, but
I always look back at those I'msorry. In my mind, I've got
a different farewell plan. As theyears have gone by, we've grown up
on television, but we've also sharedso much more behind the scenes, and
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as much fun as we had oncamera. Those memories, milestones and life
events we shared with our families outsidethe studio are my favorite. We've watched
our children grow up together. We'vetraveled all over the world. We've eaten
hundreds of meals together. Now Isee why Good Morning America and Entertainment Tonight
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cut it down. I mean,it's a bit, it's a bit granular,
Sharon, That's all I'm trying tosay. I mean, it's a
you know, we've our kids aregrown up together. We've eaten meals together,
We've okay, I get it.You've experienced a lot of things together.
We've laughed, we've cried, we'vecelebrated. Oh gosh, wow,
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all right, what an incredible andunforgettable journey we've had. Oh my god,
now I'm choking up, Sharon,it's really touching. I didn't think
that Pat leaving Wheel was going toaffect me this way. I didn't together.
It was the dinners that didn't,Sharon. I wonder what they eat
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what she said. We've got somany dinners together. You could feel hurt
her pain the loss. I'm gonnaneed a second. What an incredible and
unforgettable juny we've had, and I'veenjoyed every minute of it with you as
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this chapter of our lives is comingto an end. I know you'll still
be close by. You're like abrother to me, and I consider you
a true lifelong friend who I willalways adore. I love you, Pat.
Oh. That's sweet, actually,isn't it? Can't they still have
dinner together? Though? I mean, like I think the by laws of
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Wheel of Fortune actually prevent them fromthere any kind of fratternization. That the
show is done, right, she'llhave to now have dinners with Ryan.
She crashed towards the Oh. Nowthat is sad. Yeah, it's like
sad that it's Ryan or just yeahit's not Pat. Oh. I mean
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it's a different vibe with Ryan.Yeah, he's he's hosting two other things
while he's having dinner with you.Yeah, this is a live stream.
I'm doing it. This is fromNew York from my morning show. Yeah,
yeah, go ahead, only takea second. Anyway, Sad to
see you Pat and Vanna at theend. Oh, you're listening to Tim
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Conway Junior on demand from KFI AMsix forty. It's the Conway Show.
Mark Thompson sitting in for Tim,Andrew Caravella is sitting in for Michael Krazer
today will Cole Schuper's sitting in forAngel Martinez. Man, what was there
something going on? I didn't knowabout staffushin you're you're here? Was there
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a was there some kind of function? iHeart function? I didn't know about,
like what I don't know. Imean they I don't know. I
know Conway's not in an iHeart function. Any It's just odd that when three
people are off the show at thesame time. Yeah, it's weird.
And no one told me, Ohthat's true. And you guys are you
guys are OG's so anyway, let'sbut speaking of Andrew, I want to
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ask you in the newsroom about thisincident. It just happened. It to
crash off the Washington coast of thissmall plane. Yeah, and on the
plane, as I understand, itwas the Apollo eight. Astronaut William Anders.
Yes, so he was piloting thisplane. He has to be Apollo
eight. He's got to be everybit of eighty ninety. Wow. And
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it was a vintage plane that heowned that had gone down. Geez.
It's being reported that it went downin the water near the San Juan Islands.
Wow. Wow, he's the one. Yeah, he took that picture,
right, the one that's in everybody'shistory book. Yep, that's that's
the one. So the picture we'retalking about is the earth rise picture.
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You know, when you you knowthe picture we're talking about, the photo
of the Earth. This is whileon the Apollo mission. He took this
picture in nineteen sixty eight, andit's been called earth Rise. That guy
just crashed in this plane and hewas flying at age ninety. Man,
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we tried to get my mom's carkeys away from her at ninety. She
it was a struggle. But tothink that he's flying at that age,
it's scary. Now we don't evenknow what happened here. I mean,
I'm not suggesting it was pilot errorat all. You know, they'll have
to look at the crash site andwhatever everything that happened. No matter what
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happened, it's a tragedy. Sothat happened off the Washington coast. And
William Anders, the Apollo eight astronautwho shot that iconic photo earth Rise,
passes away really quite extraordinary. Therewas a there was an incident in Santa
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Monica. A store manager confronts ashoplifter. That's always one of those situations
that might go sideways, and inthis case, there is video of this
angry Santa Monica store manager fighting backagainst this shoplifter. And listen to what
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happened. It's a situation in whichthe the woman is intimidated clearly and if
she gives back some of the stolengoods. In fact, I think I
have audio of it, Sharon hasOkay, I am going to share it
right now. This is an extraordinarything when the manager faces off against the
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shoplifting has happened here at Grammercy Boots, which is one of many small businesses
here on Montana Avenue, businesses andretailers of all sizes all across southern California,
though fed up as they try tofend off thieves. I'm not going
to have you stealing from my store. Fury and frustration as store manager Amber
Jolly confronts a shoplifter steps away fromGrammercy boutique. But you are video and
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you are going to get arrested.YO, give me back my jacket.
And I just chased her because Ineeded the jacket back. Like either I'm
going to have to explain why Ididn't get them back, or you know,
or it's a total loss for us. We've blurred the woman's face here
because she wasn't arrested or cited forthe incident, which happened on the morning
of Friday, April twelfth. Jollysays, the thief walked out of the
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boutique with three jackets worth more thanfive hundred and fifty dollars. Wow,
that's real. That is real.Thievery three jackets, and I believe she
could. I don't know what thethreshold is for. Actually, you know,
prosse acution probably doesn't meet it.But back, what's crazy? And
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then even worse when she's telling methat's a legal to look in my bag.
It's just like, it's a legalof a still things out of my
shop. That's the high ground.It's illegal to look in my bag.
Oh you got me? You gotme? Yeah. I wouldn't want to
do anything to run a foul ofthe law. It's a legal of a
still things out of my shop.Jolly says. She recovered two of the
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three pieces, and insurance can helpyou out with them with the lost items,
but nothing really is done under likea certain amount of money. Video
of the confrontation going viral after Itwas shared on the Theft on Camera Instagram
page, many praising Jolly's actions asretailers big and small deal with an increase
in retail theft across southern California.Don't show your face on my Jeta Avenue
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again? And Amber Jolly shared withus that the incident left her worried and
paranoid for several weeks after she hadwhat she called an emotional hangover, But
she said if she had to doit all over again, she doesn't know
that she'd do anything differently. Yeah, I'd say you applaud her. I
love the uh she stuck the landingand this is your sticking of the landing.
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They show your face on Montana Avenueagain. I love that, you
go girl. I love that Thefelony threshold for theft is nine hundred and
fifty dollars. Yeah, that's whatit was set by Prop forty seven.
Right, it just but she waswell passed they don't show your face on
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Montana Avenue again threshold. She waswell past that don't show your face on
Montana Avenue again. I love thatgreat stuff needs to be on a shirt.
That is so right. It shouldbe on a shirt when we come
back. When you get on yourNighted Airlines, you are going to start
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seeing something that will help you UnitedAirlines a bit. But I don't know
that you're gonna love it. Thatand more as we continue, It's the
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It's KFI AM six forty and you'relistening to The Conway Show on demand on
the iHeartRadio app. Legendary guys CaseyCasem I mean you know Casey K.
Steffush you know on Casey Casem Ryan, Yes you do. I mean really
broadcast legend, remarkable story, personalstory about how he really built this thing
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that became so much a part ofAmerica and American broadcast culture, you know,
American Top forty and beyond. Imean, he's a giant voiceover guy
in cartoons and all the rest,and just he's still syndicated and actually on
Sundays after my shift here at KFIon a radio station, I do listen
to him on my job. Ohthat's so cool. I just love that
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kind of thing. Yeah, youhear his voice and like everything's right with
the world, you know, Yeah, you got it. Yeah. Well,
his daughter is an extraordinary person aswell. I mean, she's been
this crusader for for legislation and fordoing something about the increasing problem of elder
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abuse, and sadly her dad wasa part of them. I will let
her talk about it, and I'llstop talking about it. But how about
it for Carrie Casem Hi Carrie,Hi, Mark, So good to talk
to you again. Yeah, I'ma big fan personally and professionally, and
we owe each other a personal catchup call at some point. But now
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I wanted to ask you. Yeah, you're so. They tell me that
you're going to Norway to visit yourfather's grave for the first time in ten
years. I'm wondering, first,how did Casey Caseum end up in Norway.
Oh, that's a long story,but I guess the short version of
it was my stepmother kept us awayfrom him in life and even in death,
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so she decided when she couldn't gethim into Israel. My dad,
an Arab American, his family comesfrom Lebanon, tried to bury him in
Israel. They said no, shefalsified his death certificate. It said they'd
been living in Israel for eighteen years, and they my dad don't think well,
he told me he's never been toIsrael. And in fact, when
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you have your passport stamps with youknow you've gone to Lebanon. If you
have a hard time getting into Israel, you know. So it was she
tried that, then she tried France. They both denied her. She tried
Canada. I got on that's whereher boyfriend was from. So I kind
of went off on that in themedias. So she moved and then she
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wrote a false letter seeing she wasNorwegian and that my father and her were
going to move there for retirement.Oh yeah, I remember now all the
court cases in the it was justbrutal and you felt that your dad,
this man who deserved you know,a peaceful finish to his life, was
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being dragged through all of it.Yeah. So it was the worst for
him, you know, he sufferedthe most. And it was that that
really made you acutely aware of whatwe needed to do in this country and
around the world for elder abuse.Absolutely. You know, when I went
you know, public about this thatI couldn't see my dad and it got
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everywhere. I got started getting lettersand emails and social media, you know,
like DM saying this is happening tome too, Please help me.
Nobody will listen, nobody will,you know, And we've now for the
last ten years, my team andI and many advocates has like shone a
light on what's going on. AndI think with the Britney Spears case,
you know, with her conservatorship herguardianship that it showed the world like,
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look if this can happen to BritneySpears or Casey casem or Glenn Campbell,
Mickey Rooney, like it goes onand on and on, Michelle Nichols from
Star Trek, this can happen tothem, It can happen to anybody,
and it does, and it's happenedto thousands of people who are conserved or
under guardianship. And it's literally like, you know, they put you in
a conservative ship that over medicates you, and they steal your state. So
(04:10):
it's it's isolate, over medicate stillthe estate. That's what the advocates say,
and it's very true, and it'sso unfortunate, and this is what's
going on in this country. Sofor the last ten years I've been advocating
for visitation rights for loved ones becausethe first thing an abuser does, whether
it's elder abuse or it's child abuseor domestic violence, is you isolate the
(04:33):
individual and then you can do whateveryou want to them, and that's what
happens in these abuse cases, especiallywith the elderly and the vulnerable. So
I've been you know, we havea bill right now with Senator Susan Rubio,
but the state Capitol, and it'sit's better than the one we created
(04:54):
ten years ago. A yeah,which with Mike Gatto. Assembly than Mike
Gatto, and but it's having ahard time kind of getting through with what
we want. Why is that?I mean, it seems as though we're
all on the same team on thisfollow the money trail. If it's the
guardians. And I'm not saying allguardians are bad, they're not, but
when you have a predatory guardian,they are dangerous and they know the loopholes
(05:16):
and they know the law. Alot of times they're lawyers. So you
find these predatory guardians and they willdo everything. They will villify the family
members, they will lie, andit's the first time in you know,
I hear a lot of this thatpeople they're lawyers and people that are on
our site say, how is thejudge taking this? Hearsay vilifying Like,
(05:36):
I'll tell you something, and thebiggest red flag ever and you'll know exactly
when you're dealing with a predator.He vilifies all the family members and loved
ones, all of them. Soif you if you find a guardian or
conservator that's saying, hey, thisis this person is not good for them,
this person is volatile. Maybe it'smaybe it's a family member or a
friend. They shouldn't visit one.I get it. When you're vilifying all
(06:00):
all of the people who've been aroundthat person their whole life, you're looking
at the perpetrator. You're looking atthem right there. So that's what happens.
They don't allow anybody, They isolate, their over medicating, and they're
slowly draining the estates. You don'twork your entire life to have all of
your money go to some stranger.You work your entire life to give money
to your children, or your almamater, or to your pets or whatever
(06:23):
you want to leave your money too, Sure not to some guardian that has
come in isolated you and kept yourfamily away. And you suffer, and
the family suffers. And I seethis over and over and over again.
You know we were up in Sacramento. Hold that carry stand by. Would
you mind just stand through the breakwith us? Yeah? I think it's
(06:45):
such an important conversation. And evenas you're talking, I'm getting emails saying
it happened to me. It happenedto me, also, so I think
it does. Sadly, it landswith a lot of us who are not
as high profile as the Caseum family, you know, but nonetheless suffer in
the same way. So Carrie Casemgoing for a visit, if I can
(07:05):
call it that, I mean itis that. But it's the first time
she's seen her father's grave in Norwaynow ten years after his passing, and
will continue her organization as Caseum Cares. And I'll give you more information on
the other side of the break.It's the Conway Show. You're listening to
Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFIAM six forty talking to Carrie Caseum.
(07:27):
Carrie, of course, the daughterof Casey Casem, who was an American
institution beloved by everyone. I mean, if you speak to anybody about Casey
Casem, they will just tell youhow spectacular he was, not only as
a broadcaster, but as like literallymaybe one of the nicest people in all
of show business. He was anI had the great honor of knowing him
(07:48):
a little bit, and my interactionswere informed by just those things, by
how insanely charitable and terrific he was. So Carrie, your dad was all
those things and and more. Andit's been ten years since he passed it
away, and you have started thisorganization in service of those issues that he
had to deal with. I mean, he was trucked around by your stepmother
(08:11):
and you suggest that there was realabuse here and you've started case some cares,
so that we were saying before thebreak, that whole effort has been
to craft some kind of legislation thatwill protect and I wonder what that legislation
looks like. I mean, howcan you protect elderly people who are in
the care of others. I meanthe first step is the visitation bill that
(08:37):
I've been working on for the lastten years. Actually it started, you
know, I'd say six months beforemy father passed because I was told by
my first two lawyers I would neverwin a case over a wife of thirty
four years. But I proved theegregious elder abuse and that's why I got
conservatorship over my father. So whenI did, my so mother took him
(09:01):
out of the convalescent center that shewas she'd put him in and took him
to three different states, hiding himfrom us, causing major bed stores in
sections throughout his whole body severe painand when I found him in Washington State,
when Adult Protective Services was called onher. Uh, that's how we
(09:22):
found him. We I went,I went to Washington with my conservatorship,
and it was no good because youcan't cross state lines with it. So
I had to fight all over again, and it took weeks and I finally
got my dad to a hospital,but by then it was too late.
So yeah, it was. Itwas horrible. So I just didn't want
anybody else to go through this.And that's that's you know, been working
(09:46):
on the bill for eleven years andI have I had twelve states that my
team and I Case and Carrots personallygot visitation build in because once you stop
the isolation and you start allowing friendsand family members then to see the loved
one, there's less abuse, oryou can document the abuse, and that's
exactly what they don't want you todo. It makes total sense. It
(10:09):
makes total sense that that is thethe crack in the door you need to
perhaps stop whatever is going on.So case cares is what is it,
caseomcares dot com or dot org orwhat or either way we'll take you there.
But yeah, casromcares dot org ordot com bolk will go ok.
And if you're having uh, ifyou're having this same thing happened to you,
(10:33):
or it sounds like it's going tohappen because prevention. If the red
flags are you know, you can'ttalk to mom or dad. Oh they're
too tired to come to the phone. They're not getting your mail, they're
not getting your things, they're youknow, you're being slowly isolated. You
got to hit it now, rightnow. It's it's almost a game of
who gets the conservatorship or guardianship.It's where it's called everywhere, who gets
(10:54):
that guardianship first? And if youif it lands in the wrong hands,
trying to get your loved one outof guardianship takes a lot of money,
and even with that, they maynever get out of guardianship. I got
a I got an email from lawyerLaurie who suggested me that the movie I
(11:15):
Care a Lot, which came outa couple of years ago, it was
actually a very good film and itspeaks to the big business that's associated with
these predatory guardians. That's right,that's exactly right. I got so many
calls after that came out. Ohmy gosh, look they finally did something
(11:35):
on our stories. It's like it'sso crazy and you think, you know,
there's some parts that go, Iguess a little overboard, but when
you're when you've seen and heard somany horrific things, when you're in in
it, it's not so crazy andit's very true. And there's there's another
(11:56):
there's another movie, and it's adocumentary called The Guardians. It's made by
Billy Mints, and it literally documentsthese poor people that have been put in
these guardianships and everything taken from them. They're states leashed everything and some of
these people don't even have that much, but what they did was taken from
(12:16):
them. And when they're used upand spit out and they're not dead,
they throw them right out. It'sjust it's also heartbreaking. So The Guardian
is the documentary and the I carea lot in film was the dramatic story.
It's a really good movie. Isaw it. It was rich.
So June fifteenth is World Elder AbuseAwareness Day, and that's the day that
(12:37):
Casey Case passed away. Yeah,and so you guys day that year,
Yeah, his Father's Day and itwas World Older of These Awareness Day.
The day he died. So Ido believe that was like a sign my
dad said, you're on the righttrack. Keep going. And you know,
the one day he picked a passand I do believe that. I
do believe he held on for that. It's just too much of a coincidence,
(13:01):
right, So it's just really it'sreally spurred me to keep going and
keep doing the right thing, andkeep getting these laws changed, no matter
how much I'm up against and nomatter how much you know, it's unbelievable
how long it takes to get oneof these bills passed. It seems like,
well, that's what I'm thinking,simply, Yeah, I can't believe
(13:22):
it's taken so long. I mean, everyone should be on the same side
here. So it's caseomcares dot orgfor more. I think a lot of
people have lived or fear living whatyou have been through. I congratulate you
on how far you've come. Ijust think you're great, and you know,
I love your dad. So onething, if people want to listen
to what happened not just through myeyes, but through the caretakers, through
(13:46):
the doctors, from my father,like it's like a deposition of all these
people we put together in an docuseriespodcast called Bitter Blood Caseum Versus Case,
and you won't believe it. It'salmost like a true crime. It's so
crazy what happened, and not justhearing it from my voice, but from
(14:09):
everybody else who lived it too.I love it. I'll check it out.
It's Bitter Blood Case Versus Case fromthe podcast podcast series Terrific Carrie,
thank you, good luck and againcongratulations. Are all good work? You've
done? All right? Carry casefrom everybody? Yeah, wow, such
a fan of her father did suchgreat work. He left a message on
my answering machine years ago. Iinvited him to my home for a housewarming
(14:37):
and he got lost and he lefta message on the machine. And it
was back then you had machines,you know. So I really could have
saved it. And I don't knowwhat happened to it, why I didn't
save it. It was, youknow, Mark, this is Casey.
I'm lost, but I'm looking forwardto finding your place. It looks like
a wonderful neighborhood. Like wow,I thought it's unreal. And he did
(15:00):
make it to the place. Hemade it by for the housewarming, so
quite special. Indeed. Anyway,she's really doing heroic work, great stuff.
You're listening to Tim conwaytun you're ondemand from KFI AM six forty Tiffany
Hobbs in for mo tonight at seveno'clock. Well, you know it had
to happen, and please don't gettoo choked up. But after forty one
(15:28):
seasons, Pat Say, Jack andVana White are wrapping up as a team.
Now. I'm is Vana going tocontinue? Though? Andrew? Do
you know? Is Vana White continueleave one series? I heard okay,
so she will help ease I'm anaudition. Don't think you're quite right for
(15:50):
it. I I'd love for youto leave your picture and resume and maybe
we can review options. But justhave to be honest with you. I
don't think it's quite what we're lookingfor. But Vanna special, right,
and she she's the emotion in theshow. You see. You don't hear
(16:11):
a lot from her most She touchesthe screen and it changes letters. Where's
where's the emotion? Oh? Ithought you were going to say, and
it changes lives. That's the wayI see it too. Yeah, but
she was emotional about saying goodbye toPat Say. Jared, I can't believe
that tomorrow is our last show together. And by the way, this is
(16:33):
the long version. There is acut down version that's out there on Good
Morning America and Entertainment Tonight, etcetera. But the boys and girls come
here for the long version, don'tthey, Sharon. They want the real
Yeah, and that's what we're playingthem. This is the long version of
Vanna's Farewell to Pat. I can'tbelieve that tomorrow is our last show together.
(17:00):
I don't know how to put intowords what these past forty one years
have meant to me, but I'mgoing to try, well, try spelling
it out in letters, if youwould, Vana, I just eight thousand
episodes went by like that. WhenI first started, I was so green.
You made me so comfortable and mademe so confident. Pat, you
(17:21):
made me who I am. Youreally did. As the years have gone
by, I've grown to resent youas the years have gone by, but
I always look back at those I'msorry. In my mind, I've got
a different farewell plan. As theyears have gone by, we've grown up
on television, but we've also sharedso much more behind the scenes, and
(17:41):
as much fun as we had oncamera. Those memories, milestones and life
events we shared with our families outsidethe studio are my favorite. We've watched
our children grow up together. We'vetraveled all over the world. We've eaten
hundreds of meals together. Now Isee why Good Morning America and Entertainment Tonight
(18:06):
cut it down. I mean,it's a bit, it's a bit granular,
Sharon, That's all I'm trying tosay. I mean, it's a
you know, we've our kids aregrown up together. We've eaten meals together,
We've okay, I get it.You've experienced a lot of things together.
We've laughed, we've cried, we'vecelebrated. Oh gosh, wow,
(18:30):
all right, what an incredible andunforgettable journey we've had. Oh my god,
now I'm choking up, Sharon,it's really touching. I didn't think
that Pat leaving Wheel was going toaffect me this way. I didn't together.
It was the dinners that didn't,Sharon. I wonder what they eat
(18:53):
what she said. We've got somany dinners together. You could feel hurt
her pain the loss. I'm gonnaneed a second. What an incredible and
unforgettable juny we've had, and I'veenjoyed every minute of it with you as
(19:18):
this chapter of our lives is comingto an end. I know you'll still
be close by. You're like abrother to me, and I consider you
a true lifelong friend who I willalways adore. I love you, Pat.
Oh. That's sweet, actually,isn't it? Can't they still have
dinner together? Though? I mean, like I think the by laws of
(19:42):
Wheel of Fortune actually prevent them fromthere any kind of fratternization. That the
show is done, right, she'llhave to now have dinners with Ryan.
She crashed towards the Oh. Nowthat is sad. Yeah, it's like
sad that it's Ryan or just yeahit's not Pat. Oh. I mean
(20:03):
it's a different vibe with Ryan.Yeah, he's he's hosting two other things
while he's having dinner with you.Yeah, this is a live stream.
I'm doing it. This is fromNew York from my morning show. Yeah,
yeah, go ahead, only takea second. Anyway, Sad to
see you Pat and Vanna at theend. Oh, you're listening to Tim
(20:30):
Conway Junior on demand from KFI AMsix forty. It's the Conway Show.
Mark Thompson sitting in for Tim,Andrew Caravella is sitting in for Michael Krazer
today will Cole Schuper's sitting in forAngel Martinez. Man, what was there
something going on? I didn't knowabout staffushin you're you're here? Was there
(20:55):
a was there some kind of function? iHeart function? I didn't know about,
like what I don't know. Imean they I don't know. I
know Conway's not in an iHeart function. Any It's just odd that when three
people are off the show at thesame time. Yeah, it's weird.
And no one told me, Ohthat's true. And you guys are you
guys are OG's so anyway, let'sbut speaking of Andrew, I want to
(21:18):
ask you in the newsroom about thisincident. It just happened. It to
crash off the Washington coast of thissmall plane. Yeah, and on the
plane, as I understand, itwas the Apollo eight. Astronaut William Anders.
Yes, so he was piloting thisplane. He has to be Apollo
eight. He's got to be everybit of eighty ninety. Wow. And
(21:41):
it was a vintage plane that heowned that had gone down. Geez.
It's being reported that it went downin the water near the San Juan Islands.
Wow. Wow, he's the one. Yeah, he took that picture,
right, the one that's in everybody'shistory book. Yep, that's that's
the one. So the picture we'retalking about is the earth rise picture.
(22:03):
You know, when you you knowthe picture we're talking about, the photo
of the Earth. This is whileon the Apollo mission. He took this
picture in nineteen sixty eight, andit's been called earth Rise. That guy
just crashed in this plane and hewas flying at age ninety. Man,
(22:30):
we tried to get my mom's carkeys away from her at ninety. She
it was a struggle. But tothink that he's flying at that age,
it's scary. Now we don't evenknow what happened here. I mean,
I'm not suggesting it was pilot errorat all. You know, they'll have
to look at the crash site andwhatever everything that happened. No matter what
(22:52):
happened, it's a tragedy. Sothat happened off the Washington coast. And
William Anders, the Apollo eight astronautwho shot that iconic photo earth Rise,
passes away really quite extraordinary. Therewas a there was an incident in Santa
(23:14):
Monica. A store manager confronts ashoplifter. That's always one of those situations
that might go sideways, and inthis case, there is video of this
angry Santa Monica store manager fighting backagainst this shoplifter. And listen to what
(23:34):
happened. It's a situation in whichthe the woman is intimidated clearly and if
she gives back some of the stolengoods. In fact, I think I
have audio of it, Sharon hasOkay, I am going to share it
right now. This is an extraordinarything when the manager faces off against the
(23:56):
shoplifting has happened here at Grammercy Boots, which is one of many small businesses
here on Montana Avenue, businesses andretailers of all sizes all across southern California,
though fed up as they try tofend off thieves. I'm not going
to have you stealing from my store. Fury and frustration as store manager Amber
Jolly confronts a shoplifter steps away fromGrammercy boutique. But you are video and
(24:19):
you are going to get arrested.YO, give me back my jacket.
And I just chased her because Ineeded the jacket back. Like either I'm
going to have to explain why Ididn't get them back, or you know,
or it's a total loss for us. We've blurred the woman's face here
because she wasn't arrested or cited forthe incident, which happened on the morning
of Friday, April twelfth. Jollysays, the thief walked out of the
(24:41):
boutique with three jackets worth more thanfive hundred and fifty dollars. Wow,
that's real. That is real.Thievery three jackets, and I believe she
could. I don't know what thethreshold is for. Actually, you know,
prosse acution probably doesn't meet it.But back, what's crazy? And
(25:04):
then even worse when she's telling methat's a legal to look in my bag.
It's just like, it's a legalof a still things out of my
shop. That's the high ground.It's illegal to look in my bag.
Oh you got me? You gotme? Yeah. I wouldn't want to
do anything to run a foul ofthe law. It's a legal of a
still things out of my shop.Jolly says. She recovered two of the
(25:27):
three pieces, and insurance can helpyou out with them with the lost items,
but nothing really is done under likea certain amount of money. Video
of the confrontation going viral after Itwas shared on the Theft on Camera Instagram
page, many praising Jolly's actions asretailers big and small deal with an increase
in retail theft across southern California.Don't show your face on my Jeta Avenue
(25:52):
again? And Amber Jolly shared withus that the incident left her worried and
paranoid for several weeks after she hadwhat she called an emotional hangover, But
she said if she had to doit all over again, she doesn't know
that she'd do anything differently. Yeah, I'd say you applaud her. I
love the uh she stuck the landingand this is your sticking of the landing.
(26:14):
They show your face on Montana Avenueagain. I love that, you
go girl. I love that Thefelony threshold for theft is nine hundred and
fifty dollars. Yeah, that's whatit was set by Prop forty seven.
Right, it just but she waswell passed they don't show your face on
(26:34):
Montana Avenue again threshold. She waswell past that don't show your face on
Montana Avenue again. I love thatgreat stuff needs to be on a shirt.
That is so right. It shouldbe on a shirt when we come
back. When you get on yourNighted Airlines, you are going to start
(26:56):
seeing something that will help you UnitedAirlines a bit. But I don't know
that you're gonna love it. Thatand more as we continue, It's the
Conway Show. Mark Thompson is sittingin for Tim KFI AM six forty live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. ConwayShow on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
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