Morley Robbins: Copper Deficiency The Overlooked Factor in Liver and Thyroid Health

In this episode of Accelerated Health with Sara Banta, Morley Robbins and I talk about the critical yet often overlooked role of copper in supporting liver and thyroid health.

We discuss how copper affects thyroid hormone conversion and energy production, why deficiency can lead to fatty liver, inflammation, and low energy, and the hidden connection between iron overload and low copper. We also discuss natural ways to restore mineral balance for total-body health.

If you’ve been feeling tired, struggling with thyroid issues, or looking to improve liver function, this conversation could change everything. Listen now to discover how understanding copper can help you revive your metabolism, detox your liver, and restore your vitality.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
If you've tried detoxing, balancing hormones, taking your thyroid supplements
or medications, but you still feel footigued missing that key mineral,
it might be copper and we've got the expert on
copper here today. Welcome to Accelerated Health Withst. Sarah Banta,
where cut through the noise fast track your journey to

(00:53):
better health. I'm your host, CEO and founder of Accelerated
Health Products and certified by the National Association of Nutritional Professionals.
I'm here to share the latest on supplements wellness as
natural health solutions that actually work and those that don't,
from boosting your energy to detoxing, to balancing hormones and
everything in between. So let's dive in. Morley Robbins is back.

(01:20):
He's been on the show a few times before. He's
known as the Magnesium Man, but I would call him
the copper Man. He's the creator of the groundbreaking Root
Cause Protocol, a system designed to restore balance, ignite metabolic energy,
and address your fatigue. He's also the author of the
acclaimed book Cure Your Fatigue. Morley, who in this world

(01:44):
is not fatigued right now? After the pandemic, fatty, liver disease,
thyroid is in the tank. And the thing is they
go to the doctor. The doctor says either your normal,
your labs are normal, or they throw them on a
medication and they don't feel any different. And so here

(02:04):
we are, we're trying to uncover and everyone is going crazy.
The thing that kills me is people actually try to
feel better. They're trying to do all the right things
and they're not working. So I'm super excited to dive
into this mineral that I love copper. And how overlooked
when we're talking about liver and thyroid health.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, it's easy. It's easy to overlook it because it's
not part of the mainstream thought process. When we started
to really promote the root Cause Protocol, we realized we
had a tiger bout the tail. This is going back
to like twenty twelve and we're maybe twenty fourteen, but

(02:50):
people were writing into Facebook that they didn't need as
much thyroid medication. They didn't need their thyroid medication. We're like,
whoa wait a minute, what is going on? That was
never our intent was to be a substitute, if you will.
But as we got deeper into it, we realized that
there was a significant dynamic going on and that the

(03:12):
access to copper and minerals in general was changing people's physiology.
And as I've dug into it, both both the thyroid
and the liver are highly dependent on biobelable copper. I
think you know that, and I think what we'll talk
about is what are some of the nuances of that.

(03:35):
If you want do you want to start thyroid or
you want to start liver, where would you like to
dig in first?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Wherever makes sense because they're so interrelated the thyroid. The
thyroid is dependent on the liver, and the liver is
dependent on the thyroid. So whatever makes sense. And for
all of you who've missed morally back on my show.
On my show in the past, we talked about copper
with that metabolism and weight loss, and you know, we've

(04:02):
got these weight loss drugs, you might just need copper,
so and that all happens with thyroid and livers, So
whatever makes sense in putting it into Layman's terms as
how copper effects the thyroid, liver and the metabolism of
the body.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
And just to reinforce that issue about the fact, both
doctor Lutsenko at Hopkins and Chris Chang at Berkeley have
confirmed that fat metabolism requires copper. They have definitive studies
regarding that the whole dynamic. Let's dive into the liver

(04:43):
because I think it's one of the more interesting issues
that people. People should know this, but what we don't.
You know, the system is not exactly geared to our
benefit as we know. To me. The groundbreaking research was
done in nineteen twenty eight is at March at the
University of Wisconsin, May at the University of Kentucky, and

(05:05):
what they've discovered is that if they withheld copper from
the animal's diet, iron accumulated in the liver, significant amounts
of iron in the liver. Well, it really begins to
change physiology when you've got a liver full of iron.
And they want us to believe that the liver is
the storage site for iron, it's actually designable nature the

(05:29):
storage site for copper and retinal. That was its original intent,
that was the original factory settings, and it's been changed
over time, and of course we now live in a
very copper deprived environment. I hope people know that there's
no copper fortification. That doesn't We do have supplements, which
is great, and I think we have respectively, we have

(05:52):
some very effective supplements to share with people. But the
key issue particularly is that we're rights to fat liver disease.
There are three three things that really cause fatal liver disease.
It's lack of copper, lack of retinal and XSI and

(06:14):
and there are dozens and dozens of studies that verify that.
Ming Song m d, pH d at the University of
Louisville in Kentucky, not the University of Kentucky, but the
University of Louisville has written I think five articles on
this very dynamic and and there are there are others

(06:37):
that that certainly support and have built on his foundational research.
But the idea that betal liver disease is a disease
is a little annoying because it's not. It's just its
mineral dysregulation at its finest and as soon as copper

(06:58):
is missing, as soon as rets all is missing, there's
a wholesale change in how the liver functions, and you
have a massive uptick in tricholysrides, massive uptick in cholesterol.
What's also taking place, alluding to the earlier research back
in nineteen twenty eight, is, and it's going to touch

(07:22):
on the other subject with the thyroid, the conversion of
T four to T three. The bulk of the conversion,
ninety percent of the conversion, is taking place in the liver.
The tri iodinase enzyme is very important. It takes place
in the liver well. It gets rusty. With too much iron,
it doesn't work well. And so if you've got iron

(07:45):
dysregulation in your liver, you're not only going to have
hepadic issues, but you're going to begin to affect the
bow tie gland that they tell us runs our body,
which I think is a crockerhuha. But the liver is
heavily dependent on appropriate balance between copper and iron, And

(08:07):
what people need to really appreciate is that copper is
the general and iron is the footsolder. You don't need
to be in the military to understand that dynamic, but
If you want a really graphic example of that, George
General Patent was moving a lot of iron during the

(08:28):
Second World War and did it very well. In fact,
my favorite pictures of him are him directing traffic, directing
the tank traffic. I mean, it must have been an
amazing guy to be around. But in any event, people need
to understand that the liver is highly dependent on copper,

(08:48):
the most important protein I think made in our body.
I'm sure there are others that others might feel strongly about,
but I think there's nothing more important than cerulo plasma.
Uh I just I just got back from a talk
at Western a Price on Saturday afternoon this past Saturday.

(09:09):
I must have had like three or four hundred people
in the in the room, and I had them saying
serrulo plasm. It was so funny. But the important thing is,
if you're familiar with the design of the liver, it's
a triangle, and there's a small lobe that's towards the
center of our body, and then the bigger lobe is

(09:32):
towards the flank, if you will. And I wouldn't have
designed the body this way. But what happens is when
we do have a lack of copper iron accumulates in
that smaller lobe towards the center of the body, towards
the midpoint. Why is that a problem, Because that's where

(09:53):
serulo plasma is made. That's that's the center for the
production the synthesis of cerulo PLASMI and most people have
never heard of that protein. As you know, most practitioners
have never heard of that program. And what I introduced
the audience to was four just four copper enzymes that

(10:18):
I said would change the direction of medicine. That they
were brought out out of the closet. But the key
is the rule of plasma is instrumental in keeping iron
in circulation, making sure that iron does not become a
disrupt development, not just a deliver, but throughout the body.

(10:41):
And probably its most important function is to make sure
that the recycling of iron that takes place twenty four
to seven constant need to recycle iron, that it's kept
in motion and in circulation on a constant basis. I think,
in my humble opinion, the failure to focus medical intervention

(11:08):
around not knowing about that, I think it's I think
it's a sin, I really think, and actually it was
interesting I may I may comment on that, And someone
came up to me after my talk and said, well,
it would be important to know that the last that's
actually the Greek word for sin, when translated means mistake.

(11:30):
I'd never heard that before. There's there's a diferry making
a mistake and committing a sin. It's like, I think that,
but I but I would go one step farther and
say that not teaching doctors about popper the way we
like to think about it and its role to regulate
I think that is a sin, to be honest. So
the dynamic of making serviubal plasma is immensely important, But

(11:55):
what what is I think equally is important is its
ability to make the cytochrome c oxidase enzyme work all
over the body. And there's a modest forty quadrillion mitochondria
in our body. That's fifteen zeros. It's a staggering number.
The bookends mass cells have a thousand mitochondria, the substantial

(12:22):
Niagrath brain cells have two million mitochondria. There's a big
spread there and then everybody in between. And so the
fatigue that people are feeling is the inability to make
energy inability to turn oxygen into water to release the

(12:43):
energy precursor molecule ADP to then become magnesium ATP. But
I think the other really key issue is when we're
driving our car, we're always producing exhaust. We may not
see it. You don't see billowing black smoke very often,

(13:05):
but even the natural production of energy is going to
create superoxide. It's just a natural byproduct of the function
of the mitochondrict Well, another one of the great benefits
of bi available copper is the ability to run the
I think one of the master antioxide enzymes superoxide disputes,

(13:28):
so that you prevent oxygen from losing its capacity to
become water. That's to me, that transaction to turn O
two into two H two oh is the most important
chemical reaction on the planet. It's the basis of life.
So if the liver is short on copper and short

(13:52):
on retinol, it's going to start loading up on iron
in the liver. But it's also going to affect the spleen,
which is on the left side of the liver, on
the right side, spleen on the left side, and as
the spleen gets wonky, it's going to start to affect
a lot of different downstream metabolic activity that the people

(14:15):
may or may not be aware of. And so the
other critical function that relates to what we're talking about
is the signaling. There's a lot of signaling between the
thyroid and the liver as you as you noted in
the very beginning, well that that signaling is dependent upon
the peptides, neurotransmitters, hormones and all that very sophisticated chemistry

(14:43):
needs to be activated by one enzyme. It's called the
PAM enzyme, which stands for peptidal glycine alpha amidating mono oxygenase.
It's a mouthful. I have yet to meet a doctor
yet who knows what it is. I have not met
one doctor. I'm serious to me that we're again we're

(15:08):
bumping up against the sin that and again we know
that the the doctors and the practitioners as a body
are amazing people. They're very intelligent, they're very compassionate, they're
very caring. They want to they want to do what
they can to help people feel better. But if they're
not taught the basics of physiologies, it just seems inappropriate.

(15:32):
So if if PAM enzyme is off, as it often is,
and I think it's increasingly off because of the impact
of life O, say, which is affecting the availability of
copper in the soil, which is affecting the availability of
copper in the food, which is affecting the availability of
copper in the human And so the the challenge is

(15:58):
to understand that we're not talking about a lot of
common I mean, it's it's such a small amount, but
it's it's like a a loco. It's like a one
hundred and eighty car train being run by a locomotive
that's running off of a battery that you would have
in your watch. That's kind of the scale of it.

(16:20):
And so you know, it's like like Mighty Mouse or something.
It's just incredible what it's able to do. And people
don't know about it. And so if you don't know
about it, out of sight, out of mine, and then
you think, I am I've got a disease, But there
is no disease. There is There is no disease. What
I think is entertaining is that there's twenty thousand symptoms

(16:45):
outlined in the Mirk Manual, and they all begin with
the same condition oxidata stress and that's a fancy term
for rust. But what does it mean. It means the
oxygen is no longer o to it's got some distortion
to it, it's got an extra electron, must have hydrogen
with it, might have become a hydroxyl radical. And once

(17:07):
it's changed its natural structure, it loses the capacity to
become water to release the energy. So that that's where
the real breakdown is. And then as we work our
way into the thyroid. I do not accept that the
thyroid runs the body. I don't think that's accurate. I

(17:29):
don't think it's valid. I think it's important. I'm not
I'm not questioning that. But I think what people don't
know is the a lot of people worry about their
TSH understandably thyroid stimulating hormone, but they don't know about
t r H. Thyroid regulating hormone is just coming out

(17:51):
of the hypothalace, which dictates the state of TSH. And again,
the t is like the general and the TSH is
like a kernel. Just to give people a sense of hierarchy.
It's important, but it's not as big as a kernel.
And as soon as TRH is unable to express itself,

(18:15):
properly because of a lack of comfort, TSH starts to screen,
it gets louder and louder, and so the numbers go up.
As soon as you see an elevated TSH, you know
the person is copper deficient and it would be I
think better to be able to compare TSH to TRH,

(18:36):
but TRH is never done. I think it's amazing, and
so you've got this mechanism for the fallback plan in
the thigh worid is that if TRH is not firing right,
TSH will step in, but it's going to do it
in a very aggressive fashion, which creates a sense of
imbalance and dysfunction. But then when we get into the

(18:59):
act to all mechanics of making the thyroid hormone, we've
got to take tyrosine right and we've got to get
it into a form that it can be used to
create T four. Well, what is that? That's for tyrosine
being added to the chassis of the of the hormone,

(19:23):
and that process the thyroid receptor nucletar receptor must be
married to r x R, which is a nucletar receptor
that's a derivative of vitamin A. So t R plus

(19:44):
r x R come together and then they're able to
transcribe the thyroid hormone, the the T four hormone. If
you don't have the if you don't have the retinol,
you can't do that, and so it becomes this rate
limiting mechanism to prevent the proper production of the thyroid hormone.

(20:10):
And then the other thing that people are very focused
on are the autoimmune conditions again coming out of the
spleen affecting the thybroid again, as the spleen loads up
with iron, if it can't recycle iron properly, it's going
to send faulty signaling to the thybroid and antibodies that

(20:33):
are going to start your eyes. The immune system is
set to respond to signaling that there's an embattance. We've
got a colleague whose partner has has hashies or had hashies,
I should say. She's from down Under and she started
to do the RCP. Her hashing otis is gone, just

(20:58):
completely gone. And what he theorizes is that the resence
of iron triggering an autoimmune response. Antibodies are being manufactured,
but they can't neutralize the iron, and so there's this
constant aggravation if you will, in the system, and they've

(21:20):
been very aggressive to do blood donations and be very
assertive with the RCP and the copper supplementation, and all
of our symptoms are going and our numbers are completely
changed now. And so that again that's anecdotal end of one.
I get that, but I know there are hundreds and

(21:41):
hundreds of people who have experienced massive recovery in their
thyroid function just by following the RCP and the other
side of it I thought, I think is equally as
important is the need to address any emotional issues. A
lot of emotion and the thyroid is tied around expression,

(22:04):
being able to express oneself, and if there's a lot
of frustration around that, that will in fact affect the
effective physiology of that gland. And so we're back to
doing basic emotional release techniques to get people to release
that frustration, to release that fear that they're broken. And

(22:26):
we spell it differently f E hyphen ar so we
can see the symbol for iron. And I would say
the biggest breakthrough in our research since we last boke
Sarah is that chronic stress, which is it's just part
of life on this planet. Now it causes a rise

(22:50):
in hepside. Now, hepside is a very tricky hormone. It's
called the iron hormone. But as iden rises, it affects
the iron recycling system, and so the blood work will

(23:10):
make it appear as though the person is low in
iron on the blood test, when in fact it's being
sequestered back in the tissue all over the body. And
it's absolutely fascinating. There's two models of stress that have
confirmed this. There's chronic social defeat stress and there's repeated

(23:33):
restraint stress. Well, those two models of stress were really
developed in the nineteen eighties, but when did they really
play out big time globally In twenty twenty. That's what
we were dealing with, this chronic social defeat and restraint.
And so the massive dysregulation of iron metabolism in our

(23:54):
body was adding to the fatigue. And what's I think
you'll you'll get a real charge out of this. When
we have that dynamic gause. What happens to the iron.
It starts to fill up in the mitochondria. You can't
make angy if I was getting stuck in the mitochondria.
And so, and that's the mitochondria of the thorory. It's

(24:18):
the mitochondria that will live, or it's the mitochondya you know,
organs all over our body. And it'd be nice to
know that, right And and it also affects what's called
the laybile iron pool. People may may never have heard
of that term, but it took me a while to

(24:39):
figure out what labile meant. It means reactive. It's not
it's not happy, it's not free, it's not relaxed, which
is what are some other definitions for label In a
scientific clinical sense, it's reactive, highly reactive, and the label
iron pool can build in the cell, in the nucleus

(25:01):
of the cell, in the mitochondria of the cell. It's like,
oh my gosh, and so how is that possible? Well,
it's very easy to do it in cells that don't
have adequate levels of copper. And we're back full full
circle to the very beginning. Is and the reason why
the retsinol is so important in this process is there's

(25:27):
two copper pumps. They're called ATP seven A ATP seven B.
Seven A is considered the Minky's gene. The seven B
is considered them Wilson's gene, but both must have retinol

(25:49):
to activate their function to load copper. Well, seven B
is what loads up copper, so you can make ceruloplasma
in that load little liver, and seven A makes scores
of other copper enzymes that people have never heard of.
If anyone has any kind of connective tissue disorder your life,

(26:13):
cell oxidase is not working by if you have a
build up of calcium in your body, your endoplasmic particulum
oxidase is not working by if you don't have enough
energy your cytochrome c oxidase. Now we could go on
we you know, I know we're tight for time, but
I could go in for an hour just identifying these

(26:33):
copper enzymes that are not a part of formal clinical education.
That I think as long as it's out of the
mainstream thought, it will create the illusion of disease. As
soon as you learn how energy is made, as soon
as you learn how blood is made, as soon as
you learn how bone is made, things of that nature,

(26:55):
and they all require copper, and you begin to say,
wait a minute, why don't we were there with their education.
That's that's the focal point. And I teased the audience
on Saturday, I said, you're about to create a three
day medical school. Day one is to teach how to
measure minerals, Day two is learn how to replace minerals,

(27:20):
and day three has learned how to go well for
Bocca statement, but that I just thought that was kind
of entertaining. They loved it, so I love it.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
So I always think of copper as the hidden hero.
It's the it's the behind the scenes doing the work
that no one appreciates or sees. And our world has
changed where like you mentioned glyc is sate and but
it's the processed foods deplete copper, even at a more
accelerated rate. And then the spike protein and we don't

(27:57):
need to dive into that, but that has depleted copper
as well. So we're up against our deficiency that our
grandparents didn't even have.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
What I know from a few years back, there's homology similarity,
great similarity between the spike protein and hepside. So what
happens is you don't want to start putting exogenous, outside
source of hepside into the body. It's very disruptive to

(28:34):
our physiology. And that's essentially what they did. And so
as you noted, between the loss of copper access in farming,
the distortion of minerals in food, especially due to high
fruitose cornser and then the mineral kilating properties of many

(28:56):
pharmaceutical drugs, we're definitely at this advantage. And people, you know,
they regularly like to say, well, you're a bit of
a conspiracist. I said, yeah, that's fair. I said, but
it's not a conspiracy if I can prove it, and
I can't. It's it's absolutely in the literature. It's just
that people don't know about it. And what I'm learning.

(29:17):
I've got a very dear friend and neighbor down the
street who's a big AI expert. If people think they're
going to get the truth from AI, I can asker
the same question in five separate days and I'll get
five separate answers, completely different answer. And then if you
ask it a question and then wait a few hours

(29:41):
and ask the same question, it has no memory of
what it did before. No, there's no there's no context,
there's no memory. It's like and we're depending upon this.
So I really wonder what the future holds, especially given
the importance of what we're talking about and what I'm
tempted to do is create a copper centric AI. So

(30:05):
the people no, I think, I think it's really it's
it's because because what happens is we'll get into a
research area and say, well, what about this copper dependent
Oh you know about that? Okay, well that that changes things.
And then I'll introduce another insome oh you know about
that too, And it's like playing poker with AI. You

(30:25):
have to keep laying down cards and then it'll start
to reveal oh well, yeah, well you know a lot
more than I thought you did, and it's like it's
an insult, it's an absolute insult.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Well, all I can say is if someone is listening,
they're on their thyraide medication. They've been told they have
fatty liver disease. It's all caused by the food that
they're eating, and they're put on their medication and they
still don't feel well. I always ask, is what you're
doing working? Because if not change, what's it going to do?

(30:59):
Maybe you're not You're not gonna lose anymore. I can
personally say, you know, I eat clean, I do all
the right things. I don't drink alcohol, all of these things,
but me too, in the last five years, I've had
liver issues. I've had my thyroid go up and down,
and my thyrodroid was reacting to the stress response in

(31:23):
what my liver was dealing with. My iron and ferretin
had crept up, my cholesterol had crept up, not changing
anything else, so not eating processed foods, not eating sugars,
not all of that stuff. Still, because the liver function
has gone down, the liver function affected the thyroid function,

(31:44):
which then of course affected my testosterone and my progesterone
and my estrogen, all of the other hormones, my fat metabolism,
my protein assimilation, all of these things that the liver
is supposed to take care of. And here we are
talking about one mineral that we take for granted that
should be in our food, and vitamin A and retin

(32:06):
all what you're talking about. People don't hear about that
as well. But real quick before we go, Morley, because
the doctor will say you've got fatty liver. It's caused
by your diet, by your high sugar intake, assuming you're
not an alcoholic. But you said we started out and
you said it was due to a copper deficiency. Now

(32:28):
is that correlational or can you take us through the
causation of copper deficiency and fatty liver.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
No, it's causitive. And that's the beauty of ming songs
research that the fastest way to create that deliver disease
is exposed to high fruitose corncer so fruittose becomes sorbital
in metabolism and sorbitol's and alcohol sugar, but it kelates copper.

(33:02):
It's an established fact that the sort of towel will
keep it. I believe it's like ninety eight percent of
the copper round it, which is rather dramatic and for
people who really want to take a deeper dive from
another perspective, look up Rick Johnson, MD. Nature wants us
to be fat.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yes, he's he's been on the show.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
No, he's a wonderful scientist. But the clinician. I've been
to his lab in Denver, and the important thing for
your listeners is, and I shared I wanted to validate
this with doctor Johnson. I said, based upon my reading
of your research, if you're not making energy, you're making
uric acid. He said, You're absolutely right, that's exactly what

(33:48):
you should conclude. And so I identified fourteen different places
where copper could prevent uric acid being produced, and he
was he was surprised because he doesn't know that much
about copper, but he made sure he had those fourteen steps.

(34:08):
But the thing is, most people, most practitioners, don't know
that level of detail, and so they love to create
and instill fear in their patients. You have X y
Z syndrome, and they may not know that there is
a maybe it's an energy deficit, there's a copper deficit,

(34:31):
there may be a retsinal deficit, there may be an
iron accumulation. It doesn't take a lot and the idea
that well, I mean everything has caused me. These core
nutrients well pretty much. Yeah, I mean that's how central
they are to our physiology. And when you get inside
the mitochondria, there's a little component between complex three and

(34:58):
complex four called this signalizone. Really cool, it's wonderful research
done by Ulrich what's his last name, Oh, my goodness,
Hammerling out of Germany twenty sixteen. And there's a beautiful
picture of the signalism. Well, the bottom half of it

(35:19):
is a molecule of retinol, and it turns out that
the movement of the electron from complex three to complex
four riots the carbon tail of retinol, and if that
retinol is not there, you get what's called the Warburg effect,
which is the that's the precursor to cancer. And it's

(35:41):
just again, people don't know how powerful these nutrients are,
how important they are, and that's why the basis of
the protocol is to get people to stop doing the
conventional stuff, start doing what mother nature wants us to do.
Kind of get out of the way, let the body

(36:03):
do what it does best.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah. You know, in all of this world of biohacking,
there's you know, the peptides and the NAD injections and
all of these things, and it's like, why don't you
first get the foundational nutrients in your body and then
see where you are?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Right? Yeah, Well, that's you know, I think everyone's always
looking for the next shine down to what's new. And
one of the most important conversations I had is with
Michael Greenberg, and he tells me what's enduring, and that's
what people really If you want to solve these problems,
you've got to go back in time to how was

(36:45):
the body design, what really runs the physiology and it's
not sexy, it's not shiny, but it works. And so
that that's the basis of apparently your practice. And then
of course what we teach within the RCP.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Amazing why I can't believe we're out of time, Morley
and I just always you've such a wealth of knowledge.
You go deeper than I mean, as you said, no
doctor knows what you know when it comes to copper
and its role in the body. So where can people
find your book and the root cause protocol?

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Well, the book is not quite this big, but I
just got this yesterday, but the publisher must have made that.
I've never seen anything. So it's like, okay, so online
your favorite online bookseller, but Barnes and Noble will be
carrying it in the physical space. If you're into boxes,
I want to shop in a box, you can go

(37:43):
to Barnes. People can reach me at the RCP RCP
one two three dot org. They can certainly join our
community RCP online community. People are interested in the training,
we always we have two intakes a year, February and July,

(38:08):
and within the resources tab there's a sign up list
for that. And then if people are interested in reaching
out to me, personally, I'm always happy to get those
calls and emails. Email is my first and last name,
Morley Robbins at gmail dot com and phone number is
eight four seven nine to two eight zero sixty one,

(38:31):
and don't hesitate to call. The most entertaining part about
Sarah's is the hypoxia When I answer the phone, people go, oh,
I don't think you're going to answer, and so I
try to be there for people, so I appreciate the
questions that they ask.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
That's amazing. You don't hear that very often from people
like you, to be so accessible, and like I said,
your knowledge is far reaching. I have a lot of
people come to me to supplement your protocol with some

(39:10):
of the additional things that I offer, and they're a marriage.
It's a really nice, complicate, complimentary program, and so I
am all about it morally, and I'm so grateful for you.
I've learned so much from you over the years, and
I highly recommend everyone go back and listen to our
old podcast as well. They're extremely relevant. They don't go away.

(39:33):
So thank you again morally, and I'm sure we're going
to have you back on again.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
I look forward to it. Sarah, thank you so much
for them.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Morley is such a wealth and knowledge. I'm sure you're
going to have to go back and listen to it again.
I am, and I'm sitting here listening in a live
podcast with them. But it really is important to look
at the fundamentals and how efficiently your body converts new
tance hormones and oxygen into energy. That's what we're after.

(40:05):
That's why we go after the extra bagels and ice
cream to get energy. If we had amazing energy, our
cravings wouldn't be there. But where is all this unexplained
waking coming from. Why is our thyroid sluggish? Why do
we have fatty liver disease and we're carnivore or we
haven't been eating sugar or we don't drink alcohol. The

(40:28):
doctors aren't talking about these essential minerals, and copper for
sure is one of them. Of course magnesium, we're all
deficient in magnesium and iodine, and so I wanted to
talk about the three supplements that you can use to
help with what we discussed today, and that's accelerating accelerated scalar, copper,

(40:51):
accelerated liver care. They address the thyroid, the liver, and energy,
fat metabolism, iron rate, elation, brain health, all the things,
and we're going to come back and talk about how
you might just have too much iron in your body.
Your anemia is not from iron deficiency, it's from a

(41:13):
copper deficiency not allowing the iron to get to where
it needs to go. So in this metabolic crisis that
we are experiencing in today's world, we've got the halogens,
the fluorid bromine, chlorine displacing iodine in your thyroid tissue.
We've got the copper deficiency caused by depleted soils, iron overloads,
synthetic supplements slowing enzyme function and mitochondrial function. And then

(41:38):
we have the liver congestion from the seed oils, medications,
estrogen dominance, environmental toxins blocking fat metabolism, and your hormonal clearance.
We don't want the bad estrogens, we want the good estrogens.
We don't want the bad ones. So even if you're
eating clean, your metabolism is not working for you. That's

(42:00):
where accellerdine, iodine, accelerated scaler copper, and accelerated liver care
come in. So you need that iodine for the T
three and T four which is tiar seene in three
and four molecules of iodine for that mitochondrial function, detoxification,
hormonal balance, metabolic flexibility. Most iodines don't work. Most of

(42:22):
them are potassium, iodine or glycerine based that inhibits the
absorption of that actual iodine accellerdine, iodine, monoatomic non GMO
organic two hundred proof alcohol for the most efficient delivery
system into every cell of your body, not just your thyroid,

(42:43):
but in your liver, in your arms, in your head, everywhere,
protein assimilation, your muscles, everything. But then you've got that copper,
right he talks about the cerru low plasmin say that
over ten ten times, right, This is the copper transport
protein that regulates iron and protects you against oxidative stress.

(43:07):
And then the cytochrome see oxidase, the final enzyme in
mitochondrial ATP production. You need that copper. It drives over
fifty enzymes tied to energy production, hormonal balance, antioxidant defense,
including those two that are the most important. When you're deficient,
you're fatigued, Do you have a slow metabolism, Your hair

(43:30):
starts falling out, your hair turns gray prematurely, brain, fog, anxiety,
hormonal imbalance. The modern diet leaves US copper deficient. Spike
protein makes US copper deficient. Accelerated scalar copper is different.
It has close to one hundred percent bioavailability because it's
scalar charged, and most copper supplements only get about five

(43:54):
to ten percent absorption. So when you pair it with
the acceleradyine IE one to activate thyroid enzymes and mitochondrial pathways,
you're getting this metabolism that you haven't felt before without
your thyroid meds. This combination supports the collagen synthesis, the
melanin production, iron regulation, But you of course have to

(44:17):
address your liver as well, and that's where accelerated liver
care comes in. My gosh, my healing crisis a year ago,
liver enzymes through the roof, shingles, parasites. Spike protein a
bad supplement, not an accelerated health product, one with toxins
in a form of a B vitamin that overloaded my liver.

(44:40):
Things just went haywire. Hormones in the tank, thyroid in
the tank, iron went up, cholesterol went up, and what
helped it my accelerated liver care. My accelerated scaler copper
my accelerating iodine. But the accelerated liver care produces bile
helps with that fat digestion detoxification. It has tuka Bouplerum, philanthus,

(45:05):
milk thistle, eclipta papereira you've never heard of that. It's
a rare herb from South America that's anti viral. Helps
with cirrhosis and liver cancer. The studies are done, then
there's some other ingredients in there, calcium deglucrate to bind
the excess estrogen that we don't want in there. It

(45:27):
will help detox and restore your liver, helps with faty
liver disease. But those three supplements that's my go to
for my energy. And I got to tell you, I'm
a supplement guru and one that loves to just pop them,
pop them, pop them, and if one's good, tends better. Right.

(45:47):
That's this is my learning lesson in life is that
more is not always better, but stick with the basics.
I started adding in certain supplements that were supposed to
help with metabolism and thyroid health. Guess what happened, my
lymphatic blew up. I was retaining a ton of water.

(46:08):
I was actually gaining fat. My metabolism slowed down. Why
because they were toxic to my liver. My liver couldn't
deal with it. Everything you take in, your liver's got
to deal with and if your liver's overloaded from this
modern world, some of the good things you're trying to
do my backfire. So you want to stick to the basics,

(46:28):
the clean ingredients, the ones without the toxins, the fillers
or anything added, anything natural, anything that is you know,
you don't understand what its job is in that supplement.
Accelerated health products, we have none of that. So that
is where the acceleratine, iodine, accelerated scaleer, copper pure as

(46:52):
can be accelerated liver care, no fillers, only strategically chosen
ingredients that work to get there for a synergistic effect,
and those I will not be without. So hopefully you
got some insight today. I'd love your questions. What do
you want me to ask morally next time? Wealth of

(47:13):
Knowledge leave a comment below. Are you on an iron supplement?
Probably shouldn't be. You probably need copper. There's plenty of
articles and podcasts on my website. Sarah Bantahealth dot com
talking about the importance of copper and why it might
not be an iron supplement that you need. So check
them out and thanks for tuning in. I hope you

(47:34):
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