A Discussion with Chris Barron of The Spin Doctors at Delray Garlic Fest

Delray Beach Garlic Fest made a  stinky, bittersweet return to Old School Square.
Leading the bill was New York alt-rockers Spin Doctors (“Two Princes”), Garlic Fest’s first national headliner in six years.

Pipeman chatted with Chris Barron about headlining the South Florida Festival plus he shared some great insight of the band's career and told some great stories in the history of the band.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, you love then too, Yes, that's true.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
For see why for you you.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Mute before you that's what us princes, you just gods
doubles his bark is that's I've read now this one
sitting most about your rockets pain in.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures Pipe
Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Chris Barron of the world renowned spin doctors, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Nice here at Delray Beach at the Garlic Festival. I
am so pumped about this because I saw you at
Bourbon Beyond and this is actually my home town and
I'm leaving for Costa Rica at like six point thirty
in the morning and I saw you guys headlining here.
I was like, oh my god, all these years of
this festival and this is like the best year yet.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
That's amazing. You're going to Costa Ria.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, I'll be surfing tomorrow. I'll be here at your
show in the rain and then surfing tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Surfing in the sun tomorrow. That sounds great.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
There it is there, it is. Well, the rain went
away for you guys, like it never rains this time
of year. And then it was like there was this
major thunderstorm and now it's gone. Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I was in the hotel. It was like lightning, and
it was very dramatic. We you know, we're spin doctors
dramatic exactly. So I want to hear the story about
you at the rental car place and doing an impromptu
acoustic Yeah. Me and John Hampson, we did a gig
in Chicago, like a songwriter thing, and the weather was

(02:00):
really bad. The flights were going sideways. We're getting notifications
even the night before. So we got to O'Hare at
you know, like nine o'clock in the morning, and we're
just in the in the Delta lounge, like we're both
Delta guys. We're like in the Delta lounge waiting for
the plane to take off, and the plane just starts,
you know, delaying and delaying and delaying. And we looked

(02:21):
at each other and mind you you know, we're going
to New York. And we look at each other right
there in Chicago and we're like, let's run a car.
Let's get out of here. We're gonna drive from New
York to Chicago. It's sixteen seventeen hours, right, and we
just made the call and you know, we're both like
old road dogs, like we did all the math in

(02:41):
our heads, and we're like, these flights are you know,
we're not going to take off tonight. We might take
off tomorrow. Best move. So we go down to the
baggage claim. I had checked a bag and they were like,
I might take a while for your bag to come out.
I was like, can you send it to my house?
They were like yep, and I was like great, So
we just you know, just just like left my bag behind.

(03:03):
And we got down to the rental car place. We
walk in there and it's deserted, right, there's nobody there,
and it's just those like young kids, you know, like
twenty somethings, you know, behind the counter. We walk in
with our guitars and one of them is just like,
play us a song and we'll give you an upgrade.
And I was like seriously. And they had no idea
who we were. You know, They're like seriously and I

(03:24):
was like seriously, and they're like, yeah, so pull out
the guitar, play two princes. John pulls his phone out,
Their phones come out, you know, play like fully, two princes.
Finish it. They're like, wow, that was great man, and
I was like, hey, before we get in the car,
can I can I use your bathroom? And they're like yeah.
So I go in the bathroom and John's just like,
you know, that's the guy, right, And they're like wait,
what that's the guy. So I come out of the bathroom,

(03:46):
they're all ticket selfies and we like we get in there,
they give us an Audi, like they give us this
beautiful you know suv audi. We know we're gonna be
driving right into the snow. This it's great to have
like a four wheel drive vehicle. And we're just like
putting John John John likes to drive. I like to
drive to but John's like kind of like, let me drive.
I like to be the guy behind the wheel, and
like great, I'm just as happy to ride as to drive.

(04:09):
Put his foot on the gas, start rolling out. We
look and just as we're pulling out, just like a
torrent of people like realizing that the you know what
I mean, realizing that everything's going to be totally delayed.
There's a line of like fifty people I'm waiting for cars.
So you know, we were like decisive. Our decisive action
paid off, and then our musical talented paid off as well.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean, you made those people's maybe life, if not
just night, Like that's an incredible experience for them to
just I love when artists do that, like, you know,
because you're just real people and you're in that situation
you're just like, hey, what the hell, I'll play it
and play it. And I was watching the video and

(04:54):
those people look like you just changed their life.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's fun. I mean, it's fun to be able to
like just sort of be a mild mannered like person
and then suddenly just pull out a guitar and people
are like, wait, what the hell is going on? Because
you know, I mean, I'm like a highly trained musician.
I've been you know, nominated for a Grammy and whatever.
You know, like I can really play guitar, and obviously
I'm a professional singer, and but you know, I just

(05:19):
like go around in my life and I you know,
I don't try to make a big deal out of
being you know, the guy from the Spin doctors and
it's sort of a be level celebrity anyway, you know.
At this point, I mean I used to walk into
a mall and you know, three hundred kids that's around me,
and you know, I'd be signing an autograph, trying to
buy underwear, you know, but you know, at this point, oh,
thanks dude.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I appreciate he got to cuig working.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
But like you know, and now I'm just sort of
like walking around people recognize me. Sometimes a lot of
times they don't, you know, but like you know, when
you know and and and you know, I'm the lead
singer of the Spin Doctors. I don't play guitar with
the Spin Doctors, but I do a lot of low
gigs and I play, you know, guitar on the solo gigs.
And I've worked really hard for years and years and

(06:06):
I'm a pretty accomplished guitar player. And it's funny because
you know, I'll take a guitar with me, and if
I'm in an uber or something like that, you know,
and I got more than like the ride is more
than like five minutes, I'll pull the guitar out. And
you know how uber is, like you don't want to
get a bad rating or something like that. So before
I pull the guitar out, I'm always just like you know,

(06:26):
you might if I play the guitar, and they're invariably
they're like, no, that's some of them are like okay, great,
and some of them are like okay.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Then you pull out the guitar and you're sitting there
and you're like, you know, like they think it's you're
gonna be like strumming like some weird thing, and you
pull out the guitar and you know, like really kind
of playing something and it's funny. Some you know, and
some people, some uber drivers, you know, like like you know,
fair across section of the population are really into music.
So it's fun. And you know, usually they're you know,

(06:57):
they might be from anywhere in the world and which
is cool, and they might be, you know, have like
a completely different musical kind of tradition from where I'm
coming from. But it's just fun like playing music, and
then you know, after a while, there's like, holy shit,
who is this guy?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Right?

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Right?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
What I gotta think if I were like an uber
driver and you did that, I'd be like, Wow, that's
way cool. That doesn't happen every day, you know, Like
you get lots of rides, when do you get a
musician that just starts playing for you. I've had drivers like.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
More on more than one occasion be like like I've
been doing this for a couple of years. That was
my That's the best ride I've ever given. It's nice,
you know, because I mean I always imagine that would
be that could be you know, it could be a
fun job, or it could be boring. I bet it's
a bit of both, you know. But yeah, I mean,
you know, I look, I come at music. I see

(07:50):
music as a service and a science and an art
and and like, part of the way I see doing
this is you're you know, part of it is ameliorating
the suffering of the world, you know, And so the
more miserable the people you're playing for, by that logic,

(08:14):
you know, the better job you're doing. I don't know,
you know, right, Yeah, I mean I'm like I mean
this to like, you know, not necessarily, you know. I
don't know if you can make people happy. I don't
think that's like a realistic objective. But I do think
that you can cast your spell and take people somewhere

(08:35):
that they didn't expect to be, and in doing that,
you can maybe show them a place in themselves where
they can find some peace.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I think that's what music's all about. It's like the
best therapy ever.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, I mean, sure, absolutely there's not a single group
of human beings in the world that don't make some
kind of music. That's a maybe one of the most
intrinsically human things is that we all make music.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's interesting too, Like I've researched before, like what was
the first songs and the first music, And it's kind
of cool to kind of listen to what happened in
the very beginning when there were no instruments and they
just kind of improvise.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Well, I saw, I saw a really cool I was
just watching a documentary about early humans, like the Stone Age,
the Neolithic, and a guy comes on and in the
middle of like just a thing about you know, early
human beings, tool making and just different things. It wasn't
like about music, but he this German guy comes on.

(09:43):
He's like, he's like, you know, we found is this flute.
It's made from the shin bone of a sheep. This
is a replica. This is not obviously the original one
is fifty thousand years old and if you tried to,
you know, play it, it would disintegrate. But this is
an exact replica of the one that we found. And
he starts playing it and he's like, it's in a

(10:05):
blues scale. It's in a blues scale. And he's like,
as you can as you can see, it is in
a pentatonic scale. And I'm like, forty five thousand years ago,
these guys were playing the blues. You know, they're playing
like a blue scale. And I was like, forty five
thousand years ago, someone definitely played smoke on the water,

(10:27):
like somebody played Smoke on the water on a on
a bone fluid made from a sheep bone.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
So you know, I think I think that, you know,
I think human beings. I think that we tend to
forget our you know, the depth of our humanity and
how and how many things we have fundamentally in common
with our with our profoundest oldest ancestors, and therefore with

(10:55):
each other.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Absolutely, but that does blow my mind, like a sheep's
shin did you say, and make it into a flute
like that? That blows my mind.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, because I mean, you know, we look like we
look around today and like American society, like the the
the the de emphasis on art and culture is so profound.
And I'm fifty eight years old. When I was a kid,
like you know, there was a lot of a lot
of rich people instead of like buying up old folks homes,

(11:31):
running them into the ground and throwing people out into
the snow, and like and like and and making like
an industry out of freaking prisons. You know, people were
people were funding arts. People were like people were like, Oh,
you want to write a paper about like Greek drama, cool,
here's ten grand. You want to build a theater to

(11:52):
you know, to do Shakespeare, great, here's here's like a
million and a half dollars. Like, people were like putting
money into the enrichment of of of like their fellow
human beings, and and that that's like art is not
a luxury, you know, people, the more the further we
get away from that, the more violent and and and

(12:13):
the more the more we the more we turn against
each other.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Well, like what they always say when we're a kid,
music sues the savage beast. So like, I fully believe
that the big reason that ever, yes, that's actually a
bugs Bunny quote. The actual quote is music soothes the
savage breast, and and uh and and bugs Bunny was

(12:40):
like music suits the standards savage beast. So he made
a joke out of it, But it's people always say
the savage beast, but it's actually the savage look at that.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
That was pretty I didn't even know that. And we're
in the same age.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I don't know that with Chris barn And you learn
stuff there you go.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
And that's the point. Art to me has to be
an education. When they start talking about taking it out
of education, I think it makes you a well rounded individual.
I also think that when we didn't have live music,
that's why we're all so pissed off because he had
two years of no live music. I think we need
that togetherness, the therapy and the music, the feeling and

(13:22):
like when you go to a show, there's no arguing
and fighting. It's just everybody's there for one purpose, and
that is to escape all that In music.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I mean, yeah, you know, I think music can be
political and and and can challenge people's uh, you know,
beliefs about the status quo. And I think rock and
roll is like one of the central uh you know
characteristics of rock and roll is that that is challenging
that status quo. Uh but yeah, but but but but

(13:57):
but but but what makes it, what makes it, you know, transcendent,
is the is the is the Catharsis, you know, is
that is that music inherently creates this effic vescence like
upwelling of of I don't want to say spiritual, but

(14:19):
but but but soulful, you know, awakening, and so you're
not It's not like it's not like a gang fight,
you know, where you're challenging the status quo and like
everybody's punching each other. It's like this this exchange of
of you know, sound waves and rhythm and in in
in that you know, we're sort of wired to have

(14:40):
that kind of change the way we think about things
in a positive way.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I think. So I agree a million percent.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
And so did you ever think way back when when
you're like, I don't know when did you start playing
music when you're like five, that you'd be sitting here,
still doing here in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, I hoped, you know, I mean in my fondest dreams,
you know when we started out the span when when
The Spin Doctor started, our stated objective was to make
a living playing music. We knew that if we could
just make a living, like a middle class living, playing music,
that we would be in the top percentile of all
musicians everywhere. Of course, we wanted to be on the radio,

(15:27):
and of course we wanted to achieve you know, whatever
kind of achievements we could in music, but our but
our first objective was just to make a living and
so to again that's what I'm doing, you know, still
like that that like level unlocked, you know, that quest

(15:49):
has been unlocked so far. You know, I luckily we
got two princes in Little Miss cam'p be wrong and
you know, or like happily just like chugging out those
songs and the deep cuts of a well and new material,
but we got you know, we've got these kind of
workhorse tunes that keep us in the conversation year after year,

(16:10):
and we're lucky to have them. We're happy to play them.
And you know, just a note to your listeners. You
come out and see us, we're gonna play the hits
because we're not assholes, you know, and we like them too,
you know. But yeah, I mean it's just like I
certainly hoped that I would be doing this at this
point in my life and glad to be doing it.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Was there one concert that you went to when you
were younger that like kind of changed your life, especially
in music.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I went to see John Denver. I lived in My
brother and I lived in Well and my parents obviously
lived in Australia when when we were kids, I went
to the Horden Pavilion in Sydney to see John Denver.
And I guess that holds like eight twelve thousand people
something like that. And my brother and I were like,

(17:00):
you know, getting closer and closer to the stage, and
and later on I got the flu that night, so
I had like I got home, but when I got home,
I had like a temperature of like one hundred and three,
so it's like a little bit delirious. We just loved
John Denver, like he was huge in our house. And
I guess I was eight, my brother was six, maybe
I was nine. My brother was seven, and he was

(17:22):
up there with with a twelve string guitar and you know,
it's taking him a while to tune it, you know,
and he was like, well this, you know. He made
a joke about like it's it's like twice as hard
to tune because it has twice as many strings or
something like that, you know, and like the crowd like laughed,
and I was like, that is John Denver. He's like

(17:45):
right there and he's singing like Rocky Mountain Hinds like
tuning a guitar and making jokes about how like you know,
he's not like a robot that just like can tune
the guitar. Like he's having a hard time, like too,
was making a joke and like just like hit me
so hard, and like, actually, you know these songs that
we'd like listen to in the car on like cassette,

(18:07):
on this new fangled contraption called it called a cassette.
You know, here was this guy like who was actually
like he was actually like right there and it was absolutely,
you know, a transcendent experience. But I've had a lot
of those. I mean, you know, music hit me really
hard as a young person.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I'll tell you what, Like it's funny. I think people
that aren't as into music they don't understand sometimes because
like I'll talk to why my brothers as an example,
and I'll talk about how important music is to me
and the people that I'm around that they're in music,
and he's and he didn't get it because and he

(18:46):
likes music, but he didn't get that immersion into the whole,
like every part of feeling of music.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
It's a great story. My uncle Lenny owned a jazz
club in in Marblehead. Message's famous jazz club, but you
can look up. It's called Lenny's on the Turnpike. Historical
kind of place, and it was really like the archetype
of like the bebop jazz club, and any jazz legend
that you could mention played there. And also like Bette

(19:19):
Midler played there with Barry Manilow as her like a companyist,
and Muddy Waters and and Felonious Monk was playing. And
my uncle Lenny was walking him to an interview at
the local radio station and they went in front of
the old Empire department store and there was like a

(19:41):
Salvation Army band playing. It was right before Christmas and
snow was coming down. The Salvation Army band was playing.
You know, those Salvation Army bands are like the weirdest combos.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It was like it was like a trombone and like
a tuba and like a bass drum and a triangle
or something weird like that, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
That was say like triangle or tambourine.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, tambourine and like some weird combo and and they're
and they're playing some you know, funky old like Christmas Carol,
and Monk just stops and he like his head tilts
and he bends his ear towards the combo and he
goes into this reverie and he's just standing there kind
of nodding his head to the music, and like, you know,

(20:24):
minute goes by, five minutes go by, and Lenny's like,
you know, he talked like hep talking, and Monk, man,
you know, we're gonna be late for the interview. And
and and uh, Monk like comes out of the reverie
and looks up at my uncle and he goes, man,
those motherfuckers are really playing. And I always think about that,

(20:48):
you know, because I'll be in an elevator, you know,
and like and actually yesterday on my flight down here,
there was like some musaic version of of like some
pop song, some contemporary pop song of the music. And
a guy was playing like a nylon string guitar. You
could hear his a nylon string guitars playing a solo
of the melody on the nylon streen. It was fucking swinging,

(21:09):
you know. It was like this music weird, like jankie
music version but this cot was like swinging and and
uh I was like, damn, my guy's fucking swinging. This
guy was getting on the plane and we locked eyes
because he was like locking and we were like is
that guy swinging or what? And he was like yes.
We just started laughing and then he just walked.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
On the plane.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
But we had this moment you know, of connection.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I love it. That's what music's all about is. And
then and we're gonna connect here tonight at the Garlic
Fest here in Delray beach Man. I'll tell you what
it's been. I don't know about you, but it's been
exciting me for a year. For me because last year
we had you at Bourban Beyond, which that was one
of the best Bourban Beyond lineups of all the years

(21:52):
I've been there. And then here you are here, so again,
best headliner of garlic Fest ever.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Thank you, And I guess I should plug. Like this
summer we're gonna be out with the Blues Traveler and
the Gym Blossoms again. Spin Doctors, Blues Traveler, Gym Blossoms
will be all over the country back by popular demand.
We were out with those guys last summer and we
got like a bunch of offers this summer to do it,
and we were so we're just keeping the keeping the
line up together and going out the summer. Be a

(22:22):
lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
It is a perfect tour.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
You when is this going to go out?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
This will go out this coming week and plug my
gig next. You can plug anything you want.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
When I'm doing a solo show at the Bitter End
in New York City March ninth, seven o'clock, I'm on
a seven plany solo acoustic and then Aaron Colemus of
the world renowned spin Doctors, our drummer, is going to
be doing his solo thing at eight thirty. So the
two of us are playing back to back.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
See I love that too, because sometimes that's you know,
in music, sometimes spans they don't want you doing solo stuff,
and the fact that you're both doing solo stuff together,
that's badass.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
We we all, we all have Like Eric's got a
Wednesday night gig in Toronto, blues gig every Wednesday night.
Aaron does like solo things. He puts like these really
cool combos together and does like improvisational music. I play
solo acoustic stuff. Jack owns a studio Dug Deep Productions
in Asbury Park, and he's always doing stuff and we're

(23:21):
you know, we're like the best of friends. Those guys
are like three of my best friends, most important people
in my life, you know, hanging out with them all
these years. We've got our ups and downs, but you know,
here we are, like you know, in our late fifties
and early sixties, and we're you know, like all that
bullshit is behind us, and we just concentrate on playing
great music together.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
That's the way it should be, because like, if you're
not friends doing this job, that can be hell.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
It's really hard. I see other bands, you know that
have a ton of ton of friction, a ton of
like unworked, unresolved kind of shit. And I'll tell you
what one thing that we do. We have what we
call morale dinners. And early on we were, yeah, early
on in the band, like a first out of town
gig we did in Ithaca, New York. We're going up

(24:07):
to play a little bar called the Nines, and we
stopped somewhere and Aaron, you know, all these guys has
been in a million bands before the Spin Doctors, and
I'm this is my second band, third band, you know,
if those guys have been in a million bands. So
Aaron was like, hey, what about the band pays for
this meal and then we take the money, take it
out of the money at the end of the weekend.

(24:29):
And our manager Jason Richardson was like, uh, oh, I
suppose that would be good for morale. And then from
then on every meal we're like, is this morale? Is
this morale? But now we have like a corporate you know,
now we have a you know, a credit card, a
band credit card, so we you know, like any opportunity
that we get, you know, if we got a night
free somewhere or something, the band goes out to dinner.

(24:51):
We you know, we just like any We just order
anything we want. We get like an expensive bottle of wine,
and we have cocktails. We just hang out. We like
shoot the ship and just like buddies, you know, really
good friends in New York City. Like on my birthday,
we had a big morale dinner with all of our
spouses and you know, kids came out, and my daughter's
boyfriend and you know, we just like we we and

(25:14):
you know, we spent a lot of money around count
is like, what the hell is this? What is this
like three thousand dollars dinner that you guys spend, you know,
and but you know it's like an investment.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
We always joke like, you know, we we you know,
sometimes you're not sure where all the money's going, so
you might as well eat.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
It, right And you know what what good is if
you make the money and you know, enjoy life, right, yeah,
and enjoy each other exactly. And it blows my mind too,
probably blows your mind even more that you're still like
playing with Popper, you know, all these years later, like
I mean, a whole.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Career for your listeners who don't know. I went to
high school with John Popper. One day, I was trying
to kind of figure out how to play the harmonica.
And I could play uh love me do, I could
play the rain I couldn't figure out the end of
the thing that rain e mean, Nanine, I couldn't figure
that out. And it's only playing it in this little

(26:12):
vestibule in our high school. And uh, and out of nowhere,
this guy in a fedora with like you know, like
this great big guy you know that comes out of nowhere.
He plays the second half of the thing place part
I don't know how to play with a lot of finesse,
you know. And then in the in the in the sunlight,
like there's a window, like in a glint, He's like
flipped the harmonica, caught it and put it into it

(26:35):
like a little pocket on his jacket. And I was
just like what the hell? And they walked down. I
ran after he was showed me how to do that,
and he's like she refused to. But we became really
good friends, and you know, we've been friends ever since.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
And here you are on tour again, like so good
together that they want you do a repeat for this year.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's really unusual. You know, you go out and you
do a you do like a lineup that's not in
my career, that's never happened. We've never like gone out
and on a tour all summer long and then doing
the tour again the next year with the same lineup.
It's like, that's really it's really unheard of. And and
we've added a show in so far, we've added a show,

(27:12):
uh in Virginia. In Vienna, Virginia at a wolf Trap
is a great venue. We like added a show because
it's the best selling pre sale of the of the
summer so far, and so yeah, this you know, when
you when it goes on sale, grab your tickets because
the tickets, it's they're going fast.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Anything else you want to plug that's going on this
year while you have the mic and tell everybody how
they can get spin doctors merch and all that cool stuff.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
You can get, you know, all kinds of cute merch
through our website. And you know, I just like to
say that there's a lot of a lot of hate
in this country right now, and you know, the only
the only constitutional rights you can depend on are the
constitutional rights that are afforded to the weakest and the

(28:01):
most reviled people in the society. You let them take
the rights away from the people you don't like. Believe me, baby,
they're come a fewer rights too. They're not gonna stop
with the people you don't like. That's just a dress
rehearsal to take away everybody's rights. So just you know,
just try and think about think about the bigger picture here.

(28:22):
It's about more than you know, dunking on the people
that you don't like. Let's try and think of ourselves
as a society.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I love that because I missed todays when we were kids,
where like you didn't talk about certain things, and then
you didn't argue about it, and people could learn from
each other. You talk to each other and had differences
of opinions without being assholes to each other.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Basically, we used to value the differences in our page.
We used to value each other. You know, and believe me,
there's a place for everybody. And anybody who tells you
that I'm from New York City, I know every scam
there is. Anybody tells you to hate somebody, they're just
ripping you off. Man. It's the oldest trick in the book.
There's no trans person or some like immigrant. Look look

(29:10):
how they have no power over you. It's the people
who are telling you, people who like own these media
companies that are telling you over and over again who
to hate and who's coming after you. That's the the
people who are telling you that. That's the people you
should that's the people you should be looking out for.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
The worst saying ever happened once twenty four hour News
because now it's not a public service, it's a business.
That's right, But we got to spin doctors and there's
nothing better than that here at Delray in Delray Beach
at Garlicfest. I can't wait. And thanks a lot for
being here and still making great music after all these years.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. You
got it.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Thanks for being on the Adventures pipe Man.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man
on w fur c u I Radio

Speaker 2 (30:10):
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