June 25, 2026 • 23 mins
Castrator played an amazing set at Milwaukee Metal Fest. Pipeman chats with Robin about the festival.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you live, don too censure? Wow, crazy Young.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man W four C Y Radio. And I'm excited about
our next guest because we tried to connect at Milwaukee
Metal Fest. She played there, but she was also doing
like quadruple duty, like every job in the house there.
I don't even know how she played, but their band
killed it, like one of my favorite sets of the
(00:41):
whole festival. So let's welcome to the show, Robin from Castrainer,
How are you hello?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm good doing this.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I know it's great, and I have to like, there's
one thing I rarely talk about as band names, but
I do think it's kind of funny that you started
off as an all girl band and you named it
cast Trader, And it makes me a little scared right now.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's a great name, right, It is a totally great name.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And I mean, so let's go back to the beginning.
What was it that was really your driving force to
start this band?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, I mean, I played another band, and I was
friends with Carolina the drummer. We did a show with
my other band, Jarkada and her other band Hypoxia in
New York and then we just kind of stayed friends.
And then we were on barge to Hell together and
she was talking about like starting another band of just
(01:45):
you know, girls or whatever, and I was like, that's cool,
and we kind of just started there.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
We are like thirteen fourteen years later.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
And you know, I have to say, as somebody that
came from like the eighties metal and punk scene, yeah,
I always saw it was bullshit, the whole gatekeeping, especially
with women, because especially now, I think some of the
most badass women in metal and punk, I mean badass
artists and metal and punk are women.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Like yeah, I mean I never thought of it as
like a gatekeeping thing. I just feel like metals, probably
even punk, is the only genre that is like, oh
they're girls. Like you don't have that with country, you
don't have that with rap, you don't have that with pop,
(02:39):
nothing else except for.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's weird to your side.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's like all of a sudden, it's like, oh, there's girls.
It's like okay, you know, and we know girls can
play music. That's been proven in every genre throughout.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know exactly ever, and there's the passion that women have,
you know, and the emotion that women have. That to
me directly fits with metal or punk because they're both
very emotional, passionate genres.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, girls are definitely more emotional than than boys.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, I always I think it shows that the lyrics,
and it shows on stage, you know. And I'm actually
there's sometimes too, Like I'm so in awe of certain artists,
Like you take Courtney Laplunk, Like when she sings, I
just sit there looking at her mouth because she's got that.
(03:39):
She's got that, like, you know, total technique that you
don't really see often, and you can totally tell like
somebody trained her how to do her.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Voice without losing it the way she does because.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I sang Thrash Meow in the eighties and I trashed
my throat because I didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, you know, so you need the technique, but it does,
you know, and it even amazes me.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Like I love when I play bands to other dudes
and then I tell them that the lead singer is
a female before after they listen to it because they
don't even like sometimes they can't even conceive of that
brutalness coming from a female. But I think you do
it so well. You know your whole journey, you know,
(04:29):
anybody that's in metal or punk that does that. And
but your band, man, oh my god, Like I would
say probably top one of the top five sets of
the whole Milwaukee Metal Fest for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Wow, okay, I mean I didn't see any bands.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, you were a little busy.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I take that back. I saw Obituary, which, like I've
seen Abituary a million times, but and I think part
of Monstrosity and that was like the extent of my
Milwaukee Metal Festival. But to say we're the top five,
that's hard to believe, you know, with all the good
(05:11):
bands that were playing.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, it's just the energy that you brought forth and
just that and that passion. Like I never saw your
band before that, and I was like, oh, they're pretty good,
you know. And you know, I'll tell you the company
you're in, like you're in the company of Violence, who
was one of my favorites too, because they're one of
(05:34):
my favorites from way back.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
But yeah, their show was sick. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Like I texted my daughter a video of it and
there were all kinds of stage divers and she goes, oh,
is that how you knocked your all your teeth out
back in the day. I'm like, yeah, except I did worse,
but yeah. And then oh my god, Green Jello and
like they're really Green Jelly. They're supposed to be Green
(06:01):
Joey because of stupid jell O company. And I'll say it,
like you can have a pedo represent you, but not
some great band. Just saying but their show was the
funniest gig I've ever seen ever in mind? Was it?
Oh my god, I could imagine because like I have
(06:21):
video of their set, like they handed out water noodles
to everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And like, picture picture the stage set.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh my god, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And it was like I couldn't stop laughing because like
the mosh pit was all water noodles and it was
like just so much fun. And then were they at
the meet and greet also chanting Green Jello because they
had everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Just basically they just they basically just extended their show.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So those are people that you're in company with that
are my favorite sets of that festival. So and how
does it feel playing at festival across the street from
the Damer Killing.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I don't look at it like that. I'm forget about it.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Honestly, I didn't even I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I didn't put two and two together until I was
doing an interview and I had the Ambassador Hotel as
a backdrop, and when the band started talking about it,
I'm like, oh, I didn't even put that. I didn't
even put too and two together. Like it was funny,
but yeah, like what what a great festival. And you know,
(07:38):
I watched you too run that meet and that meet
and greet, and you ran it like a clock because
that's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Work, you know, it was.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It was a lot. It was fun and I had
a good team of people with me, so that helped.
The fans were you know, good as well, so that
was also helpful. And the fans were you know, accommodating
with me, so it all worked nice.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So what what do you want to share with the
listeners about your experience at Milwaukee Metal Fest, especially your performance?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So I don't even know if I have anything to share.
I didn't have like an experience really. I spent what
four days, you know, in the same spot, right, you know,
except when I.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Went to go play, yeah, exactly, So that was a
nice break right there.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, I mean it was like kind of stressful, yeah,
you know. And even Nick that was with me, he
played also because he plays with you know, Jamie, so
he did those jams, so he had to go run too.
And then both me and him did the Slayer day, right,
so we left for we both left for that, So
(08:58):
that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, And I imagine it would be stressful to play
a set when you're that busy too, because he kind
of want to have a little chill out time before
you go on stage.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And there was no chill out time, right. He went
straight and straight and green and then straight back.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I ran right back as soon as I was just
like put my bass in a case and just ran
back to.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
The meet and greet so and speaking bass.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So what made you originally pick bass as what you
wanted to play as an instrument?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Basically, I used to play guitar. I played guitar forever,
and I usually tell the story because my first guitar
was like electric guitar was a Kreamer striker for Eddie
van Halen, nice and I still have it. And the
color was the blue like Steve Harris's bass. Very cool,
(09:52):
and I just I'm not really good with like playing
with the pick. It's not my favorite thing in the world.
And somebody was like, why don't you just play bass?
And I'm like, huh, that sounds like a plan. And
I went to the music store and I happen to
find a fifty dollars bass at the music store. Still
have that, and nice here I am. But I still
(10:13):
play guitar along.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
With that for a very long time, you know, And
I have to think there are basses at play with
a pick. It's gotta be so much harder to play
a bass with the pick with those strings, you know,
Like it just seems so much easier with your fingers.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I enjoy it more like I enjoy playing bass more,
I think than guitar. It's just so different, you know. Yeah,
Like guitar is fun, but I like I find bass
more relaxing. I always say, I'm a frequency. You don't
notice me until I'm not there.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Nice. I love it, you know. I have a trivia
question for you.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh no, okay, Yeah, who is one of the most
famous bassis of all time that was original guitarist And
the only reason he played bass is because they were
all guitarists, So somebody had to draw it the short straw.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh boy, is this an easy one?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't know, and maybe maybe not.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Sometimes it's hard anybody that's a basis that used to
be a guitarist. I asked this trivia question too, and
some have known, some have not. You know, but let's
just put this way once I tell you if you
don't know, you'll be like, oh, that makes sense, and
(11:38):
I will say it's not in metal.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I was gonna say, I don't know if it's in metal.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
No, it's it's not in metal, and they're not a
band anymore. But the person who I'm talking about is
one of only two people left on this earth from
that band. And that is unless than nineteen sixty nine
(12:05):
radio show is true and he's actually dead. And that's
an impost. There's a really good hint.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Oh boy, I have no idea, Like, I don't know.
I keep going with like Geddy Lee or something.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Close. Paul McCartney.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
See now now you listen to Beatles songs, you can
hear he kind of plays the bass like a guitar.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah. A lot of people, do you know, like a
lot of especially if you're playing with the pick a
lot of people, you know, do the chords, they do this,
you know, that's one thing, like you know, playing how
I play. I don't plays standard like a guitar, right,
I mean somewhat I do. It's weird, it depends. I
(12:51):
follow mostly a lot of the kick drums.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Which is usually what you do as a bassis.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Right. Well, I play like more than I do technical.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
That's why you're so good because I like fast.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah I play.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I played fast and and you know you've mentioned Steve
Harris and it's like, man, that dude, what a bassis.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know, he plays that thing like a guitar.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I used to fast and technical exactly like it's really good,
like insane to me.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
That was that was why I liked made and that
you know is his bass.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And you know who else was at Milwaukee Metal Fast
Who's an old friend of mine who I always saw
in the beginning way back in the eighties that he
played bass just like Steve Harris. And that's why I
liked them and their band so much. Do you know
who that there's another trivia question, but this is somebody
at Milwaukee Metal Fest.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Somebody at Milwaukee Metal they play.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
They played two sets one with the band Triger. Yep,
all right, yep, yeah yeah, So like he always reminded
me of Steve Harris, like and me and I've we've
been friends since like the very beginning of Armon Saint,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Uh so, And I felt that's what Milwaukee Metal Fest
was all about too. It was like a family reunion.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I love what Jamie did because I do a lot
of festivals and this just felt like an old school
just like typical just everybody knows everybody type of festival.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah. I mean it was like I wish I had
more time to chat with people and see people. Yeah,
but it was a lot of fun and it's organized
very well. I love the fact that it's in one building,
it's not outside.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh yeah, because the festival I did before that evacuated
three days in a row out of four.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah. Like I just I like the fact that it's indoors.
You know, there's plenty of bathrooms, there's food.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah. I couldn't believe how big that venue was too.
I've never been to that venue. Oh really, and it's huge.
It's like I didn't I never even imagine it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Now that I've been there, I'm like, oh, now, it
makes sense that there's a festival and that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Too, like all this, like the stages are great as well,
like anywhere you stand to see the bands, it's great.
Like you know, there's not a bad venue.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
In there, exactly exactly, you know exactly. And it was
kind of cool down where you were in the basement
and because the merch down and was down there. Yeah,
it was cool for me too for doing interviews because
it was quiet down there.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, you know, uh min it right.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So anything else you want to share with the listeners
that you got coming up with your band or yourself
or any thing that you want to promote for Castraighter.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
We have a show in New York coming up raid
Debarmaged Infest. It's a like a smaller festival in New
York that should be fun. And then we have a
possible tour announcement coming up.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You know, we're just looking to play more shows. We're
writing new music right now, so hopefully a new album
next year.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Very cool as I feel write in new music after
all these years, I always am in awe of artists
being able to continue to come up with new ideas.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It's sometimes it takes me a while to like be motivated. Yeah,
Like Carolyna and I can only get together, you know, periodically,
and like sometimes we'll get together and lock ourselves in
a jam room for like two days, you know, for
eight hours a day and just you know, write whatever,
(16:54):
like really raw stuff. Right now, I'm at home writing
stuff and sending her videos and everything, and she's writing
stuff and sending videos. So we're in just like the
pre production phase, and I'm getting ready to leave on
tour for work. So I'm like, for some reason, this week,
I feel more highly motivated than normal. Like I think
(17:18):
I sent her four different lyric things and three different
like full song videos. So sometimes I'm not motivated at all,
and I'm like, eh, we'll see. You know, takes me
a month, and I'm like, oh, maybe I should jam
or something.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I I you know, I get that feeling because I'm
also a published author. In my first book, the first
half of it took me six months to write and
the second half took me a day.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, it's just how you feel at that point, like
all of a suddenly, Oh, all of a sudden, it's
just like, yeah, I feel great.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
About this exactly, and then like you just shelve it
for a while in your head, and then it's like
all of a sudden you're moved again. But then you
might be at the point where you just like bang
it all out at once. You have to be in
that mood to bang it all out.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I mean, I have a lot of friends that can
just sit and noodle for hours and hours and hours.
I just don't have that. I am not that person.
I've never been that person. Unless I am like, oh,
I really want to write this and then I'll take
the time. I'm just or oh, I have a show,
(18:30):
I have to jim, oh I want to learn this song.
But to sit around and just like people do for
hours and just no, I.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's not me either, Like that's probably why, Like I
played guitar and sucked. I played drums and sucked, and
I sucked because I never could sit down. Like I
remember being like, oh, I want to be like Randy Rhodes,
and then I found out he practiced eight hours a day.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't think I have and
didn't mean to practice eight hours a day.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, I'm like eight minutes right right.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And I just wanted to play songs like I'm getting
taught scales. I'm like, this is boring. I can't do
this over and over again. I just want to play
a song.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I took, like guitar, Like I took guitar in high
school and then I had lessons as well, and I
remember going to my teacher and just being like, I
want to play this, you know, and it's like probably
like White Snake John Psykes, like you know, I want
to play this, and he's like, well, before you could
play that, you know, you got to start with this.
(19:38):
And I'm like, why can't I just go show me
this one? Show me that? Come on.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It's the same with drums.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
When I played drums, had that practice pad forever and
annoyed the hell.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I mean, just give me a drum set. I don't
want this stupid practice.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, just like I don't know, like people find just
noodling and stuff like that fun. I I'm not one
of those people.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well, it's like when you take people like a Tommy Lee,
no matter where he is, he's drumming like everywhere he is.
You know, it's just kind of a habit, and you
know that's not me. But but I do like what
comes out of that I like the end result. So
music is my passion, whether I'm I suck at playing it,
(20:31):
so listening is my passion, and.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I just want I just want to have fun and
play and you know, if people like it, great, If
they don't, okay, exactly, not everybody's going to like everything.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Like you know, well, you definitely looked like you were
having fun at Milwaukee Metal Fest.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I think we did. I wish we played longer, right right,
It seems it seemed way too quick.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And I didn't even when you went, didn't put two
and two together because i'd met you earlier in the
day because I was doing an interview with Sean and
and then I looked up, I'm like oh, and then
like oh, I have an interview with her later and.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Mean Unfortunately we couldn't do the interview that night because
Green Jelly was actually took their thirty minute meet and
greet and it was over an hour.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It must have been entertaining. Though it was entertaining and
frustrating at the same.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Time, it wasn't. It was the last one of the night,
and it was they were having fun. They you know,
from a band that they were like kind of apprehensive
about wanting to do it to full on, full scale show. Yeah,
meet and greet. I mean they were so into it,
like everything. They were doing their own selfies, they were
(21:51):
doing like whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I was like, Okay, that's amazing. I love bands like that,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I kind of like took it over and I was
just like, okay, there's whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And then when I did see you later, you were
definitely you know, you even said look at me.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I'm like, yeah, I know you can't do this interview.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I don't think I could have at that point.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And my voice was already fried. So here we are.
This was better.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And tell all the listeners how they connect to your
merch store on band camp because you got some badass
merch and speaking of merch and how they connect to
you guys on socials and check out all you know,
all that you have coming and coming up awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, I mean Castraighter spelled as you would think Castraighter
band camp or Castraight or band. And you have to
be careful sometimes googling because you'll get sometimes actual Castraighter
band and like videos right like animal Castration.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah we don't want that.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
You don't want that, but yeah, like all regular social
castrader band on, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, band camp, YouTube, all
the socials nice.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
You know, well, everybody should check you out.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Definitely band camp if you don't want a physical copy,
check out our stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Absolutely because you guys are badass.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I look forward to seeing more of you. And thanks
for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Finally, yeah, thank you for listening to the Adventures of
Pipelin on w for c u I Radio.
Hi, you live, don too censure? Wow, crazy Young.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man W four C Y Radio. And I'm excited about
our next guest because we tried to connect at Milwaukee
Metal Fest. She played there, but she was also doing
like quadruple duty, like every job in the house there.
I don't even know how she played, but their band
killed it, like one of my favorite sets of the
(00:41):
whole festival. So let's welcome to the show, Robin from Castrainer,
How are you hello?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I'm good doing this.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I know it's great, and I have to like, there's
one thing I rarely talk about as band names, but
I do think it's kind of funny that you started
off as an all girl band and you named it
cast Trader, And it makes me a little scared right now.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's a great name, right, It is a totally great name.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
And I mean, so let's go back to the beginning.
What was it that was really your driving force to
start this band?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, I mean, I played another band, and I was
friends with Carolina the drummer. We did a show with
my other band, Jarkada and her other band Hypoxia in
New York and then we just kind of stayed friends.
And then we were on barge to Hell together and
she was talking about like starting another band of just
(01:45):
you know, girls or whatever, and I was like, that's cool,
and we kind of just started there.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
We are like thirteen fourteen years later.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
And you know, I have to say, as somebody that
came from like the eighties metal and punk scene, yeah,
I always saw it was bullshit, the whole gatekeeping, especially
with women, because especially now, I think some of the
most badass women in metal and punk, I mean badass
artists and metal and punk are women.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Like yeah, I mean I never thought of it as
like a gatekeeping thing. I just feel like metals, probably
even punk, is the only genre that is like, oh
they're girls. Like you don't have that with country, you
don't have that with rap, you don't have that with pop,
(02:39):
nothing else except for.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
It's weird to your side.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's like all of a sudden, it's like, oh, there's girls.
It's like okay, you know, and we know girls can
play music. That's been proven in every genre throughout.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know exactly ever, and there's the passion that women have,
you know, and the emotion that women have. That to
me directly fits with metal or punk because they're both
very emotional, passionate genres.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, girls are definitely more emotional than than boys.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, I always I think it shows that the lyrics,
and it shows on stage, you know. And I'm actually
there's sometimes too, Like I'm so in awe of certain artists,
Like you take Courtney Laplunk, Like when she sings, I
just sit there looking at her mouth because she's got that.
(03:39):
She's got that, like, you know, total technique that you
don't really see often, and you can totally tell like
somebody trained her how to do her.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Voice without losing it the way she does because.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I sang Thrash Meow in the eighties and I trashed
my throat because I didn't know what I was doing.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, you know, so you need the technique, but it does,
you know, and it even amazes me.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Like I love when I play bands to other dudes
and then I tell them that the lead singer is
a female before after they listen to it because they
don't even like sometimes they can't even conceive of that
brutalness coming from a female. But I think you do
it so well. You know your whole journey, you know,
(04:29):
anybody that's in metal or punk that does that. And
but your band, man, oh my god, Like I would
say probably top one of the top five sets of
the whole Milwaukee Metal Fest for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Wow, okay, I mean I didn't see any bands.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, you were a little busy.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I take that back. I saw Obituary, which, like I've
seen Abituary a million times, but and I think part
of Monstrosity and that was like the extent of my
Milwaukee Metal Festival. But to say we're the top five,
that's hard to believe, you know, with all the good
(05:11):
bands that were playing.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, it's just the energy that you brought forth and
just that and that passion. Like I never saw your
band before that, and I was like, oh, they're pretty good,
you know. And you know, I'll tell you the company
you're in, like you're in the company of Violence, who
was one of my favorites too, because they're one of
(05:34):
my favorites from way back.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
But yeah, their show was sick. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Like I texted my daughter a video of it and
there were all kinds of stage divers and she goes, oh,
is that how you knocked your all your teeth out
back in the day. I'm like, yeah, except I did worse,
but yeah. And then oh my god, Green Jello and
like they're really Green Jelly. They're supposed to be Green
(06:01):
Joey because of stupid jell O company. And I'll say it,
like you can have a pedo represent you, but not
some great band. Just saying but their show was the
funniest gig I've ever seen ever in mind? Was it?
Oh my god, I could imagine because like I have
(06:21):
video of their set, like they handed out water noodles
to everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And like, picture picture the stage set.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh my god, that's insane.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And it was like I couldn't stop laughing because like
the mosh pit was all water noodles and it was
like just so much fun. And then were they at
the meet and greet also chanting Green Jello because they
had everybody.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Just basically they just they basically just extended their show.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
So those are people that you're in company with that
are my favorite sets of that festival. So and how
does it feel playing at festival across the street from
the Damer Killing.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I don't look at it like that. I'm forget about it.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Honestly, I didn't even I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I didn't put two and two together until I was
doing an interview and I had the Ambassador Hotel as
a backdrop, and when the band started talking about it,
I'm like, oh, I didn't even put that. I didn't
even put too and two together. Like it was funny,
but yeah, like what what a great festival. And you know,
(07:38):
I watched you too run that meet and that meet
and greet, and you ran it like a clock because
that's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Work, you know, it was.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It was a lot. It was fun and I had
a good team of people with me, so that helped.
The fans were you know, good as well, so that
was also helpful. And the fans were you know, accommodating
with me, so it all worked nice.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So what what do you want to share with the
listeners about your experience at Milwaukee Metal Fest, especially your performance?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So I don't even know if I have anything to share.
I didn't have like an experience really. I spent what
four days, you know, in the same spot, right, you know,
except when I.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Went to go play, yeah, exactly, So that was a
nice break right there.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, I mean it was like kind of stressful, yeah,
you know. And even Nick that was with me, he
played also because he plays with you know, Jamie, so
he did those jams, so he had to go run too.
And then both me and him did the Slayer day, right,
so we left for we both left for that, So
(08:58):
that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, And I imagine it would be stressful to play
a set when you're that busy too, because he kind
of want to have a little chill out time before
you go on stage.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
And there was no chill out time, right. He went
straight and straight and green and then straight back.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I ran right back as soon as I was just
like put my bass in a case and just ran
back to.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
The meet and greet so and speaking bass.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
So what made you originally pick bass as what you
wanted to play as an instrument?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Basically, I used to play guitar. I played guitar forever,
and I usually tell the story because my first guitar
was like electric guitar was a Kreamer striker for Eddie
van Halen, nice and I still have it. And the
color was the blue like Steve Harris's bass. Very cool,
(09:52):
and I just I'm not really good with like playing
with the pick. It's not my favorite thing in the world.
And somebody was like, why don't you just play bass?
And I'm like, huh, that sounds like a plan. And
I went to the music store and I happen to
find a fifty dollars bass at the music store. Still
have that, and nice here I am. But I still
(10:13):
play guitar along.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
With that for a very long time, you know, And
I have to think there are basses at play with
a pick. It's gotta be so much harder to play
a bass with the pick with those strings, you know,
Like it just seems so much easier with your fingers.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I enjoy it more like I enjoy playing bass more,
I think than guitar. It's just so different, you know. Yeah,
Like guitar is fun, but I like I find bass
more relaxing. I always say, I'm a frequency. You don't
notice me until I'm not there.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Nice. I love it, you know. I have a trivia
question for you.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh no, okay, Yeah, who is one of the most
famous bassis of all time that was original guitarist And
the only reason he played bass is because they were
all guitarists, So somebody had to draw it the short straw.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Oh boy, is this an easy one?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't know, and maybe maybe not.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Sometimes it's hard anybody that's a basis that used to
be a guitarist. I asked this trivia question too, and
some have known, some have not. You know, but let's
just put this way once I tell you if you
don't know, you'll be like, oh, that makes sense, and
(11:38):
I will say it's not in metal.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I was gonna say, I don't know if it's in metal.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
No, it's it's not in metal, and they're not a
band anymore. But the person who I'm talking about is
one of only two people left on this earth from
that band. And that is unless than nineteen sixty nine
(12:05):
radio show is true and he's actually dead. And that's
an impost. There's a really good hint.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Oh boy, I have no idea, Like, I don't know.
I keep going with like Geddy Lee or something.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Close. Paul McCartney.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
See now now you listen to Beatles songs, you can
hear he kind of plays the bass like a guitar.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah. A lot of people, do you know, like a
lot of especially if you're playing with the pick a
lot of people, you know, do the chords, they do this,
you know, that's one thing, like you know, playing how
I play. I don't plays standard like a guitar, right,
I mean somewhat I do. It's weird, it depends. I
(12:51):
follow mostly a lot of the kick drums.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Which is usually what you do as a bassis.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Right. Well, I play like more than I do technical.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
That's why you're so good because I like fast.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah I play.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I played fast and and you know you've mentioned Steve
Harris and it's like, man, that dude, what a bassis.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
You know, he plays that thing like a guitar.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I used to fast and technical exactly like it's really good,
like insane to me.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
That was that was why I liked made and that
you know is his bass.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And you know who else was at Milwaukee Metal Fast
Who's an old friend of mine who I always saw
in the beginning way back in the eighties that he
played bass just like Steve Harris. And that's why I
liked them and their band so much. Do you know
who that there's another trivia question, but this is somebody
at Milwaukee Metal Fest.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Somebody at Milwaukee Metal they play.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
They played two sets one with the band Triger. Yep,
all right, yep, yeah yeah, So like he always reminded
me of Steve Harris, like and me and I've we've
been friends since like the very beginning of Armon Saint,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Uh so, And I felt that's what Milwaukee Metal Fest
was all about too. It was like a family reunion.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I love what Jamie did because I do a lot
of festivals and this just felt like an old school
just like typical just everybody knows everybody type of festival.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah. I mean it was like I wish I had
more time to chat with people and see people. Yeah,
but it was a lot of fun and it's organized
very well. I love the fact that it's in one building,
it's not outside.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Oh yeah, because the festival I did before that evacuated
three days in a row out of four.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah. Like I just I like the fact that it's indoors.
You know, there's plenty of bathrooms, there's food.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah. I couldn't believe how big that venue was too.
I've never been to that venue. Oh really, and it's huge.
It's like I didn't I never even imagine it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Now that I've been there, I'm like, oh, now, it
makes sense that there's a festival and that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Too, like all this, like the stages are great as well,
like anywhere you stand to see the bands, it's great.
Like you know, there's not a bad venue.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
In there, exactly exactly, you know exactly. And it was
kind of cool down where you were in the basement
and because the merch down and was down there. Yeah,
it was cool for me too for doing interviews because
it was quiet down there.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, you know, uh min it right.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So anything else you want to share with the listeners
that you got coming up with your band or yourself
or any thing that you want to promote for Castraighter.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
We have a show in New York coming up raid
Debarmaged Infest. It's a like a smaller festival in New
York that should be fun. And then we have a
possible tour announcement coming up.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You know, we're just looking to play more shows. We're
writing new music right now, so hopefully a new album
next year.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Very cool as I feel write in new music after
all these years, I always am in awe of artists
being able to continue to come up with new ideas.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It's sometimes it takes me a while to like be motivated. Yeah,
Like Carolyna and I can only get together, you know, periodically,
and like sometimes we'll get together and lock ourselves in
a jam room for like two days, you know, for
eight hours a day and just you know, write whatever,
(16:54):
like really raw stuff. Right now, I'm at home writing
stuff and sending her videos and everything, and she's writing
stuff and sending videos. So we're in just like the
pre production phase, and I'm getting ready to leave on
tour for work. So I'm like, for some reason, this week,
I feel more highly motivated than normal. Like I think
(17:18):
I sent her four different lyric things and three different
like full song videos. So sometimes I'm not motivated at all,
and I'm like, eh, we'll see. You know, takes me
a month, and I'm like, oh, maybe I should jam
or something.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I I you know, I get that feeling because I'm
also a published author. In my first book, the first
half of it took me six months to write and
the second half took me a day.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, it's just how you feel at that point, like
all of a suddenly, Oh, all of a sudden, it's
just like, yeah, I feel great.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
About this exactly, and then like you just shelve it
for a while in your head, and then it's like
all of a sudden you're moved again. But then you
might be at the point where you just like bang
it all out at once. You have to be in
that mood to bang it all out.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I mean, I have a lot of friends that can
just sit and noodle for hours and hours and hours.
I just don't have that. I am not that person.
I've never been that person. Unless I am like, oh,
I really want to write this and then I'll take
the time. I'm just or oh, I have a show,
(18:30):
I have to jim, oh I want to learn this song.
But to sit around and just like people do for
hours and just no, I.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
It's not me either, Like that's probably why, Like I
played guitar and sucked. I played drums and sucked, and
I sucked because I never could sit down. Like I
remember being like, oh, I want to be like Randy Rhodes,
and then I found out he practiced eight hours a day.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't think I have and
didn't mean to practice eight hours a day.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, I'm like eight minutes right right.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And I just wanted to play songs like I'm getting
taught scales. I'm like, this is boring. I can't do
this over and over again. I just want to play
a song.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I took, like guitar, Like I took guitar in high
school and then I had lessons as well, and I
remember going to my teacher and just being like, I
want to play this, you know, and it's like probably
like White Snake John Psykes, like you know, I want
to play this, and he's like, well, before you could
play that, you know, you got to start with this.
(19:38):
And I'm like, why can't I just go show me
this one? Show me that? Come on.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
It's the same with drums.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
When I played drums, had that practice pad forever and
annoyed the hell.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I mean, just give me a drum set. I don't
want this stupid practice.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, just like I don't know, like people find just
noodling and stuff like that fun. I I'm not one
of those people.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well, it's like when you take people like a Tommy Lee,
no matter where he is, he's drumming like everywhere he is.
You know, it's just kind of a habit, and you
know that's not me. But but I do like what
comes out of that I like the end result. So
music is my passion, whether I'm I suck at playing it,
(20:31):
so listening is my passion, and.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I just want I just want to have fun and
play and you know, if people like it, great, If
they don't, okay, exactly, not everybody's going to like everything.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Like you know, well, you definitely looked like you were
having fun at Milwaukee Metal Fest.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I think we did. I wish we played longer, right right,
It seems it seemed way too quick.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And I didn't even when you went, didn't put two
and two together because i'd met you earlier in the
day because I was doing an interview with Sean and
and then I looked up, I'm like oh, and then
like oh, I have an interview with her later and.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Mean Unfortunately we couldn't do the interview that night because
Green Jelly was actually took their thirty minute meet and
greet and it was over an hour.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It must have been entertaining. Though it was entertaining and
frustrating at the same.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Time, it wasn't. It was the last one of the night,
and it was they were having fun. They you know,
from a band that they were like kind of apprehensive
about wanting to do it to full on, full scale show. Yeah,
meet and greet. I mean they were so into it,
like everything. They were doing their own selfies, they were
(21:51):
doing like whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I was like, Okay, that's amazing. I love bands like that,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I kind of like took it over and I was
just like, okay, there's whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And then when I did see you later, you were
definitely you know, you even said look at me.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I'm like, yeah, I know you can't do this interview.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I don't think I could have at that point.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
And my voice was already fried. So here we are.
This was better.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And tell all the listeners how they connect to your
merch store on band camp because you got some badass
merch and speaking of merch and how they connect to
you guys on socials and check out all you know,
all that you have coming and coming up awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, I mean Castraighter spelled as you would think Castraighter
band camp or Castraight or band. And you have to
be careful sometimes googling because you'll get sometimes actual Castraighter
band and like videos right like animal Castration.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah we don't want that.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
You don't want that, but yeah, like all regular social
castrader band on, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, band camp, YouTube, all
the socials nice.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
You know, well, everybody should check you out.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Definitely band camp if you don't want a physical copy,
check out our stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Absolutely because you guys are badass.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I look forward to seeing more of you. And thanks
for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Finally, yeah, thank you for listening to the Adventures of
Pipelin on w for c u I Radio.
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