Pipeman Radio chats with Melodic Death Metal Band Accursed, a 100% DIY outfit at the moment.
Dave Lee started this 2017 shortly after moving back home to CT after 11 years in Arizona where he really cut his teeth playing in several metal bands over the years.
Accursed is a young band, honestly, not age wise generally speaking, Dave thinks he really skewed the average but they have a unique perspective you don't get a lot. They understand the struggles and they are learning how to navigate a changing industry day by day like a lot of other musicians.
An interesting thing to note might be the lyrical theme behind their most recent single. The song itself is based on Sky King, Richard "Bebo" Russell, and the Horizon Air incident of 2018. It's not so much a pastiche or allegory so much as an adaptation relayed through an artistic lens. We didn't want to glorify his actions but rather look at it from a wholly human perspective.
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Dave Lee started this 2017 shortly after moving back home to CT after 11 years in Arizona where he really cut his teeth playing in several metal bands over the years.
Accursed is a young band, honestly, not age wise generally speaking, Dave thinks he really skewed the average but they have a unique perspective you don't get a lot. They understand the struggles and they are learning how to navigate a changing industry day by day like a lot of other musicians.
An interesting thing to note might be the lyrical theme behind their most recent single. The song itself is based on Sky King, Richard "Bebo" Russell, and the Horizon Air incident of 2018. It's not so much a pastiche or allegory so much as an adaptation relayed through an artistic lens. We didn't want to glorify his actions but rather look at it from a wholly human perspective.
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Pipeman in the Pit is a music, festival, and interview segment of The Adventures of Pipeman Radio Show (#pipemanradio) and from The King of All Festivals while on The Pipeman Radio Tour.
Pipeman in the Pit features all kinds of music and interviews with bands & music artists especially in the genres of Heavy Metal, Rock, Hard Rock, Classic Rock, Punk Rock, Goth, Industrial, Alternative, Thrash Metal & Indie Music. Pipeman in the Pit also features press coverage of events, concerts, & music festivals. Pipeman Productions is an artist management company that sponsors the show introducing new local & national talent showcasing new artists & indie artists.
Then there is The Pipeman Radio Tour where Pipeman travels the country and world doing press coverage for Major Business Events, Conferences, Conventions, Music Festivals, Concerts, Award Shows, and Red Carpets. One of the top publicists in music has named Pipeman the “King of All Festivals.” So join the Pipeman as he brings “The Pipeman Radio Tour” to life right before your ears and eyes.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you have done to censure.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wow for you your.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
This is the pipe Man here on the Avengers Pipe
Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with
my next guest who has some killer music. So let's
welcome to a show a cursed And I hope I
pronounced that properly because if I fucked it up and
I'm that I'm an idiot. It's like my biggest fear always,
(00:41):
especially since a lot of bands they'll say their band
name differently than what it should be or whatever, like
you have to be creative nowadays have a band name
because it's just so hard.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
There's so many out there.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So that's my worst fear is like screwing up the
band name because I know if I was an artist
and be like, oh, here we go, this dude don't
know ship about our band.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Jim Jim, that's great. I love that. Yeah, that's great
to hear. We still love him.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I actually just did media coverage for his festival, Milwaukee
Metal Fest. Yeah, and it's a killer festival. I have
to hands off, you know. I think artists should always
be the one's ring festivals because it was so run
like an artist was running it and that that's the
(01:38):
best compliment I could give.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, And and like he understands what you go through
and that's the point, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
So and you guys have played when he's done the
Jamie uh the Jostin friends thing, right.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So we did thresh Thursday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who
else was the hours?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
But yeah, that's pretty I think.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
No, that was the other one. I was somebody from Overkill.
We went to a few of them.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Was it was it Bobby Blitz from it was Bobby Blitz?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's funny when I interviewed him one time several years ago,
like I have ostio or threesa next from head head
banging and surfing. Well, most of the time you can't tell, okay,
because I'll still be head banging, I'll still mash and
all that.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But during the.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Interview, first time it's ever happens like, dude, what's wrong
with your neck? And I'm like, I'm like, oh, I
was just head banging at your set.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
That's what's wrong with my neck?
Speaker 5 (02:56):
You know. Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But it's so funny that he was like so tuned
into it. You know, it's funny when like I come
from that time of the eighties medal and like now
all of us are at this later stage, and it's like,
it's so funny the difference between how the bands are
that I was friends with back in the eighties, how
(03:19):
they were then and how they are now. Yeah, you know,
even with backstage Okay, you guys know this. Okay, So
people like my friends will be like, hey, can you
get me backstage? I'm like, you really don't want to
go there. It's kind of boring.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
There's nothing. Yeah, it's not the eighties, nothing's going on anymore.
Yeah okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And then and then even the thing with side stage,
I'm like, well, if you like how the band sounds,
you don't want to sit side stage.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You're gonna hate it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Like it's cool the first time you do it, and
after that, it's like at festivals, all hang out with
artists ound in the crowd because they want to be
out in the crowd too.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
That's the best place to be man, right.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Exactly, you know, you know, is it fun sometimes when
you're side stage seeing what's going on kind of, but
I'd still rather be in what's going on. Elia, And
that's the key that see. That's I think the difference
between metal heads and other genres is we're not there
(04:30):
for anything else but the pure love of metal.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
First, musician second or I don't know, the lines are
kind of blurred. I'd say it's like fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
On me with me for that, right.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Like always in the crowd, always trying to mingle.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
He used to call me the governor or mayor of
wherever we go, and it used to drive him crazy.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Because he's used to is he still drives me nutty.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Nice, nice.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Gotta have somebody like that. Davis like eternally out going.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So well, there you go, and I'm glad you brought
that up too, because everybody thinks that all musicians are extroverted,
and most of them are actually not.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I saw a new phrase for that the other day,
and I wish I could remember what it was.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It it was kind of like amb averted there's something like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It was something about like it was it was like
an oxymoron where it was like an extroverted introvert where like,
you know, I definitely hit a wall sometimes, especially in
crowds and with people, and like I have a definite
social battery and like, you know, if my mood is
off or not right, like I don't want to be
around people. But like generally when I'm in a in
good spirits and at a show or hang out. And
(05:41):
that's why I love the metal scene so much, is because,
like I feel like there's more my social battery seems
a little more extended in those situations than just day
to day dealing with people, crowds, being out.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's I hate when people want to put labels on you, like,
oh that it, yeah, introverted, extrovert, Okay, Like shut up, okay,
Like why can't I just be who I am. I
don't need a label, like I often say. I often say,
and people try to label it. I'll say to people
like I'm a total extrovert and a loner at the
(06:17):
same time, and most people don't get what that means,
so they're trying to say, oh, you're an introvert extrovert. No,
I'm not introvert at all. I could be at a
music festival one hundred thousand people and I feel like
I'm there with my one hundred thousand closest friends, but
that I'm alone at the same time and the best
of both worlds.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That's a nice thought. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know, my daughter, even when I said to her
one time, she goes, you know, you're right. I've noticed
like when we're all around, you are totally involved and
with everybody, but you're also in your own world at
the same time, you know, Like I said, And when
you're up on stage, I think what people don't get
(07:04):
is you go into this zone dude, like and you
don't even It's almost like an add body experience. You
don't really realize you're there at that moment in time, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
At all.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
And then on the back end of it, every after
every show, I like think back and I'm like, oh, wow, yeah,
I guess we really did do that. Like right, It's
like there's a somewhere is a clip circulating of me,
like from a video where like a dude dives off
like stage, dives right in front of me, like he
walks like ran across the stage, goes right in front
(07:39):
of me and dives off the stage and gets carried
away by the crowd. I had no idea that that
had happened until I watched.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
The video of it later.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
I was like, dude, I would be too easy to
kill up there, honestly, Like, I got no clue what's going.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
On right right?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, I also know from all the arts I know,
and me as a beaker and radio person, like I
am nervous right up until you turn that mic on
then totally and and there's a switch in my head
that just changes, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
And so that's an eiry thing.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Like I know so many musicians that have stage fright
and people think, well, that's weird.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
No, it's just a normal human thing.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But yeah, then you go into this other mode once
the mic turns on or what or the guitar turns
on or whatever it is that you're doing, you know.
And I love talking about that because I think people
truly don't understand musicians.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, I would agree, and I think that that's not
talked about quite a bit. I actually found a lot
of comfort in listening to the Jazz to Show because
he would talk to musicians about that, Like hearing Steve
Bye talk about like that and hearing you know, just
these guitarists that you know, have these storied careers I've
looked up to, like talk about those kinds of things,
and like you know what they go through on stage.
(09:05):
Sometimes it's like I get that, Like it helped me
a lot, like over the years especially, you know, just
kind of getting out of my own head sometimes and like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Years and years ago, I'd be like, oh, I hit
a wrong note. Everybody knows it. Now I'm like, nobody's
fucking heard that.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, you have to take a page. I had a
David Lee Roth book. Yeah, okay. I was at the
nineteen eighty three US Festival and they started playing on
Ain't Talking about Love. There's three hundred thousand people there,
and Eddie starts looking over at Dave because he's not singing,
(09:43):
and Dave just looks at the crowd and shouts in
the mic, I fucking forgot the words. Yeah, and the
whole place cheered like it was the best thing that
ever happened.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You know, It's just such an honest moment and like
such a human thing.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And I feel like a lot of like pressure.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Has also come down on musicians lately to like not
have those moments and not have it be as human
and just for like the experience to be so perfect
for crowds, like there's that I see, you know a
lot of stage production and backing tracks on a lot
of bands, and I don't I'm not gonna knock that,
like we've considered doing that at some point, or kind
of beefing up some of our production live. But like
those moments too, you know when you see like one
(10:24):
of your favorite it's just it's a unique experience and
it's it's holy human and you know, I can't fault anybody.
It just makes it that much more incredible to experience it.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That's the beauty of live music, man, Like, you know
how what you said earlier hit home. You know how
many times bands screw up and nobody notices, like no, nobody,
And I don't think like I would notice, only to
pay attention to notice, you know, it's like I'm not
(10:54):
worried about are you hitting the right note? You know,
like I'm just there in the moment, enjoying it, and
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Really, that's the beauty of live music.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
If you want to be exactly like the record, just
listen to the record.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Yeah, It's like you could go home and listen to
it like you're here for the vibe, Like.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, that's where the Grateful Dead were really smart. Because
there's no show that you could go. Grateful Dead was
the same thing, go.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Home and listen to the record. Yeah, my parents were
huge fans.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
That is like what I grew up hearing in the
house all day, every day from the record player.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Like they were gigantic dead. My mom still is. My
father passed, but my mom still a huge dead head.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
So like that's and that was kind of how I
was introduced to music, was through that.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You know, I eventually found my way to meddle.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But well, it was kind of similar for me because
you know, I remember, like I was into music since
I'm little, but I remember at one point in like
fifth grade, my friend showed me two albums, and there's
two of my favorite albums this day, and one was
(12:10):
We Sold Our Souls for Rock and Roll Sabbath and
the other was Skeleton's from the Closet Grateful Dead. And
it's like the whole concept that that's the two that
he showed me.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
That couldn't be.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
More different, right, But oh yeah, but it like I
think it forms like that's the thing too. People think
that like whatever you're into, if it's metal, punk or whatever,
that's all you listen to. And even back in the
eighties when we had the gatekeeping days. Okay, you weren't
supposed to like certain things.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
But you secretly did.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Okay, you know, the eighties version of coming out of
the closet is admitting that you liked some new wave
y you know. It's like I interviewed Josie Cotton, who
I'm friendly with now, and I'm like, you know, I'm
just gonna say it now. In the eighties, I wasn't
(13:09):
allowed to like you, but I'm gonna tell you. I
don't want anybody to know.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
And this is in the interview. I say it like that,
but I secretly did like it back then. But don't
tell anybody, just.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Get out right exactly. But we all like different types
of music, different vibes. I was a teenager, I was
a total thrash metal head, but I did go to
Slayer shows on Friday night and Dead shows on Saturday.
Just a different vibe, man. But you know, dead heads
(13:42):
are the whole different. Like I have a lot of
dead Head friends. Yeah, I consider myself somebody that likes
the Dead, but the fanaticism just blows my mind, like
that people have for the Dead, like cause I like
a lot or dust. But if I'm not on drugs,
sometimes a little bored by it. Yeah, that's the key, Yeah, exactly,
(14:09):
Like I don't do any of that stuff anymore. But
I do remember going to a Dead show and I
took some shrooms and my whole trip was I didn't realize.
So next day I was actually tripping. I kept saying,
they're they were bad, they're not working. I don't feel anything.
And then the next day I was like, oh, maybe
(14:31):
I did. Yah's dangerous, right right, you know, but uh yeah,
And then you know, it's funny you talk about finding metals,
so like, you know, my generation, there was no real metal,
Like the closest thing to metal was Zeppelin, Cream Mountain,
(14:55):
you know, Sabbath obviously, but you know, it's like I
remember stealing my brothers albums from like bands like The Association,
the Rascals, the Grassroots, and there was just there was
this like like.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Chain of events.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
So then it so then it went to you know,
British Medal Priest Maiden. Then it went to like I
went to Motley Crue at the Roxy before they had
an album. They weren't Hammel, they were like horror punk. Yeah,
And I remember going at show. I'm like, I'm never
(15:38):
going to a real concert ever again. That was awesome.
Next thing, you know, I'm going like Slayers first show ever,
Metallica's first show ever.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Not allowed to like Motley Crewe anymore. You're now in
the Slayer Okay, and I did.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I went through like my favorite bands while I was
young were Kissing the Beatles, and then it was Zeppelin,
then it was Ozzy, then it was Slayer, you know,
and it's like and then and then I found Possessed, yeah,
and that was like, oh my god, that's awesome, and
(16:15):
now I found a cursed Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
We did all that without the Internet back then too,
which blows my mind even more because like it was
a vastly different landscape. Like I similarly, like when I
I was obsessed with like Duop for a while when
I was like thirteen, the Elvis Presley for some reason,
when I was in like third grade, but like, you know,
found Metallica when I started playing guitar and wanted to
like kind of start leaning into that, started learning like
(16:41):
most of kill them all. And then like I had
a friend, I was meeting people locally, and that's how
it happens. You know, somebody introduces you to another band
and like it. Very long time ago, probably like two thousand,
I was introduced.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
To like Children of Boat them.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
They handed me a Children of Botom CD and another
band called Balsagath, who, like you do some taking on it.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's kind of I don't even know how to describe
it now.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I've probably been listening to them in twenty five plus years,
but pretty epic. There's swords and there's a lot of
like you know, very epic metal. But as soon as
I heard that, I was like, there's so much more
going on, And then like I'd go back to listen
to Metallica.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And I was like, I can't.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Like, I still appreciate it, but like my journey kind
of started there, and those were like my formative years
of just getting into like you know, melow Death from
like Finland, Sweden, some black metal from Norway.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I didn't get too into that.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I was there and got confirmed a few weeks ago
in an interview when Kronos from Venom punched out Tom
Mariah All because he said, you guys aren't black metal.
We're black metal, you know, yeah, and you know, so
(17:59):
for me, it was there were two things. One was
the tape trading days. Of course, of course that's how
you found your music. But I used to go into
this record store in the valley. I told his story
a lot because it's so cool. And there was this
record store called OZ Records, and there was this record
(18:24):
clerk there that every time you went in, he would
hand you an album and go, you gotta check this out,
or he would show you a flyer for a gig,
go to this gig. Yeah, And that was Brian Slagel
and it was when he started Metal Blade Records.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Okay, damn.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
And that's cool, right, And like you don't even think
He didn't even think, because I approached him a few
years ago. I'm like, hey man, that was a brilliant
marketing move. He's like, that was just a record store clerk, man,
Like I didn't think of it that way. But I
do think of it that way because it's like, what
better way to promote your bands but to be a
(19:04):
record store clerk.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's kind of a sick move, right, I.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Mean, that's freaking brilliant, Like, oh my god, And you
know he introduced me stuff. Maybe I would have never known,
Like I remember he the first album he showed me.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Was Venom Welcome to Hell.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And before that I was listening to stuff like Judas Priest,
Iron Maiden, you know, and and then I remember listening
to this album what reading the lyrics while I'm listening, and.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Literally I got scared, like what the hell?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And you know, obviously I'm not scared anymore, but you know, yeah, well,
and then you find out too that you know, it's
not what everybody thinks, Like I had the initial reaction
that probably everybody had about me and what like I
used to get told to devil worshiper because I wore
an Aussie shirt, you know. And I remember hanging out
(20:07):
with Slayer back in the day and they would laugh
backstage that people thought they were actual devil worshipers, you know. Yeah,
people don't read the lyrics either. That's the problem nowadays.
Like maybe if you read the lyrics, you would know
what they're actually meaning.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
By it, yea.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And yeah, I think that's what happened with people like
parents back in the day like that were oh my god,
Like the parents should just read the lyrics and they
would have realized that it wasn't what they thought it was.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, So how did this come about? How did you
guys come about?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So interesting?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, I started this project in about twenty seventeen, I
want to say. I sent out with another guitar player,
buddy of mine, and like we started kind of auditioning drummers,
trying to find and people and kind of just organizing
some riffs and like writing and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
You know, we didn't have like a lot done.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I see a lot of bands now that like get
everything prepped and then launch, and it's like maybe that
might have been smart, but you know so, but like
I always like I knew what I wanted the band
to be. I knew what I wanted to represent, I
know what I wanted the sound to be, and I
had like a lot of material that just kind of
was disorganized.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I had not played for probably about eight years due
to shoulder injury, coming back from moving back from Arizona
to Connecticut, and I just kind of wanted to capture
some of like what I loved about the sound I
heard out there from like a lot of the local
bands I played with and like played in. It was
just culturally very kind of different metal wise, and I
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didn't see exactly what I wanted, not exactly what I wanted.
I didn't really see like that sound up here, So
I was like, all right, start something.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know. The early years were very formative. We made
a lot of missteps.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
We you know, had member turnover, you know, quite a
lot of stuff as we kind of refined and wrote songs.
We've worked with a lot of great musicians, you know
in the band, We've played with a lot of great people.
But yeah, over the last two years, i'd say we
kind of really started kind of buttoning things up.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Chris joined us after our last bass player left, found
him on Facebook and just shot him a random message
and nice.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
The rest was history.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, he went to his requests too, so he didn't
even see it for a couple of weeks, but that
it wound up ultimately working out.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And then you know, Will joined us.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
A couple of months after that, huh, A couple months
after I did.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Months after you did.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, And he had never screamed before, and you know,
he'd probably stopped me right now if he was able
to connect to the interview. But yeah, so we threw
him into it because he came and like tried it out,
and I was like, all right, well, you've got this
like almost hardcore like mid range vocal fry that like
I think sounds really good it and like I want
you to really like work on this and keep getting better.
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And we knew, you know, we could have gone, you
know with somebody who had like thirty years experience, but like,
personality wise, he clicked right away and like he you know,
demonstrated immediately like I want to put in the effort
and time and like this is my thing.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So well, if you're watching this at some point.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
We we like immediately, you know. One of the first
shows we did with him was CT death Fest, like
right after he joined, and then like right after that,
we threw him in the studio because we had four tracks,
like everything was done except for vocals, and it was
like you're up, bud, and he was like, so it
was a learning experience for him.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
He really like we threw him.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Into the deep end of the pool, but definitely well,
he did amazing and every every day he just gets
better and better. We recently picked up a new drummer
for you know, that's been working out really well. We
finally added second guitar back, which I've been wanting to
do for a while, for like a year and a
half amost two years, I was kind of just holding
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it down solo. And then if you ever really want
to be seen on stage and like not want to
hit a wrong note, tried being the only.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Guitar player, right right, Yeah, yeah, it's unnerving at times,
but yeah, so but yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And you know, we we in losing our last drummer
and before finding Ethan, you know, we wanted to get
something out because it had been a few months since
we had done anything, and we've got material written for
probably seven song LP. We're still kind of like moving
some of that stuff around, but like you know, we're
gonna plan on starting to record that soon. But sever
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was a song that like was done and we wanted
to get it out just to give people something kind
of bridge the gap.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I know, it's not the like industry way to do things.
I know people are like, no, you have to like
have stuff ready to go. I'm like, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I likes the song is pretty fucking awesome and like
I wanted to get it out, so like we did
the Fly by the seat of our pants, Mad Scrambled.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You know, Oh, we're coming down to the wire. We
already set the launch dag.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
We need artwork, we need this over, you know, and
we're still learning all that stuff too, which you know,
I've Chris has been instrumental in that.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Will's been really helping out with that. I handle a
lot of it.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Will all work full time too, so it's like it's
really like another full time job. But we're starting to
kind of figure out how to do this a little less.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
On the end. But yeah, I mean, every every day
is a learning process.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Everything we do is an opportunity to learn, like what works,
what doesn't, you know, and to keep refining what we're doing.
Like the new material that we're writing now is like
and I think you can probably hear it through the catalog.
Our old guitar player TJ contributed a lot of the
writing to the first album. A lot two of the
songs he wrote, and then you know, him and I
worked on the other two and kind.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Of button that stuff up and traded riffs.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
We did a cover of Cold and we dropped Beneath
the Burning Sky. I think he wrote the outro piece
in that song, so you know, still, I think that
was kind of the last of the contributions there going forward.
It's been me writing with Chris and Will yeah, and
now we've got Rob and Ethan and like we're just
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kind of trying to get everything together to make sure
we're as tight as we can do when we get
in the studio.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
But yeah, every step of the way is just we're.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Constantly trying to elevate, you know, what we're doing, and
we try to stay true to ourselves too, Like I
don't care about paying fan service, Like I love our fans.
Obviously we would be where we are without them, and
we're trying to grow that fan base.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But like I don't, I do this because I love
making the music.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Like again, like I said before, like I you know,
I do get stage fright too, and I do black
out and I have fun and like whenever, you know,
I get But like I've talked to Chris about it,
it's probably my least favorite part about being a musician.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm sure people would be like that's insane, like why
do you do this?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Then it's like, well, because when I connect with my
guitar and I'm like playing late at night and I'm
like writing a riff or a song or like inspiration
hits men, like something comes out it's like that, it
feels more like a conduit than a creator, and it's
like this, I want to put the music out. I
feel like there's more music in me that need, you know,
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to be shared. And like these guys they keep me real,
they keep you know, we try to keep each other
in check. Chris Lens like such, yeah, I don't even
know what on bass, Like he's a madman on bass.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And then like you know, compositionally, like he keeps me
in check.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And then we'll argue, you know, with the final process
of writing, us argue about what should we want.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
But it's all it's all for trying to get the best.
There's a lot of yelling between Dave and I, but
it always results in the best finished products. Like if
Dave and I are like literally, I mean David and
I are pretty much best friends, and when we're literally
screaming at each other in the practice room, like that's
when the best piece is gonna come out. It's like
because we always come to the same place where we're
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like bicker, bicker, bicker, and then it's like fuck it,
We'll just play it both ways and whatever sounds best,
and then we'll a be it Like play it both ways,
and inevitably one of us goes over it shakes the
other guy's hand.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It's like, okay, you were right, fine, Okay, it's better
that way.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So it's kind of like you're like Field and Lars.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, kind of we're going.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
But I love hearing all that because I think a
lot of people also don't realize that the band doesn't
really become the band until you get to that lineup,
that evolution of the lineup, you know, and that's where
you're kind of at now, which.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Is cool because that people don't realize too.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
As musicians, you want to evolve and you want to
get better at your craft. You know, a lot of
us fans we like to for you to stay a
garage band, but who wants to do that if this
is what you're doing for a living, you know, And yeah, right,
you know.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Tell everybody how they can reach out to you and
connect with your music by your merch check out everything
that's going on with you guys.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Obviously socials would be the best place to kind of
keep an update on what we're doing day to day
and what's coming up. We've been a little quiet recently,
on there, but we're kind of working on some content
and getting better at posting and stuff. As much as
I'm in it, I'm the oldest that I'm just like,
I can't after a certain time of the day with screens.
But you can find us on Instagram and Facebook a
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Cursed ct YouTube as well. We just dropped a new
music video for this track yep nice a Curse Dot Band.
There's a banner at the top of the page to
sign up for our mailing list.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Please do that. We're trying to get more people to
sign up for email. That way we can provide more.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Behind the scenes exclusive kind of offers and stuff on
certain merch runs and stuff, just for you know, those
early adopters and key fans. Is that you know, join
that and that's a Curse Dot band. From there, it's
linked if you click on merch to go straight to
our square space site and you can buy merch there.
If you're outside of the US and there's some sort
of issue with shipping dm us on Facebook or something,
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it's very it's a free site, so it's very kind
of finicky and how you can set up shipping costs
and stuff. And now with tariffs and Vattax and stuff like,
I don't want to see anybody get screwed and have
to pay, like, you know, sixty dollars just to ship
a shirt.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
We'll get it to you. I've got a couple of
shirts to Germany.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
We'll figure it out about it.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
So yeah, and then we're on all major streaming platforms.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So yeah, make sure go listen, Go forth and listen
and let us know if you want us to come
play your town if it's when. We're trying to expand
kind of regionally at this point, so like you know,
we're focused on a lot of shows kind of around
New England and Connecticut and trying to book there.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
So well, come on down to South Florida. Nobody likes
to come here because it sucks here.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I'm all in.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'm near westbom Beach. There's actually a really cool a
couple of real cool venues near me. One's respectable Street
in West bond and then in Fort Lorido there's this one,
the Culture Room.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I did, but.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
We definitely need to see you on like Danny Wimmer festivals.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
All right, so I know she'd let us crash there
and then you know, let's get there.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
So there you go. I did watch your video. You
guys are badass. Everybody's got to out your music and
I hope to see a lot more great music from
you guys.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
And thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Than you. I really really appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
You got it.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Thanks so much, Take care.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man.
I'm w for c u I Radio.
Hi, you have done to censure.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wow for you your.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
This is the pipe Man here on the Avengers Pipe
Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with
my next guest who has some killer music. So let's
welcome to a show a cursed And I hope I
pronounced that properly because if I fucked it up and
I'm that I'm an idiot. It's like my biggest fear always,
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especially since a lot of bands they'll say their band
name differently than what it should be or whatever, like
you have to be creative nowadays have a band name
because it's just so hard.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
There's so many out there.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So that's my worst fear is like screwing up the
band name because I know if I was an artist
and be like, oh, here we go, this dude don't
know ship about our band.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Jim Jim, that's great. I love that. Yeah, that's great
to hear. We still love him.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I actually just did media coverage for his festival, Milwaukee
Metal Fest. Yeah, and it's a killer festival. I have
to hands off, you know. I think artists should always
be the one's ring festivals because it was so run
like an artist was running it and that that's the
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best compliment I could give.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, you know that.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, And and like he understands what you go through
and that's the point, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
So and you guys have played when he's done the
Jamie uh the Jostin friends thing, right.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So we did thresh Thursday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who
else was the hours?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
But yeah, that's pretty I think.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
No, that was the other one. I was somebody from Overkill.
We went to a few of them.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Was it was it Bobby Blitz from it was Bobby Blitz?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's funny when I interviewed him one time several years ago,
like I have ostio or threesa next from head head
banging and surfing. Well, most of the time you can't tell, okay,
because I'll still be head banging, I'll still mash and
all that.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But during the.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Interview, first time it's ever happens like, dude, what's wrong
with your neck? And I'm like, I'm like, oh, I
was just head banging at your set.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
That's what's wrong with my neck?
Speaker 5 (02:56):
You know. Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But it's so funny that he was like so tuned
into it. You know, it's funny when like I come
from that time of the eighties medal and like now
all of us are at this later stage, and it's like,
it's so funny the difference between how the bands are
that I was friends with back in the eighties, how
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they were then and how they are now. Yeah, you know,
even with backstage Okay, you guys know this. Okay, So
people like my friends will be like, hey, can you
get me backstage? I'm like, you really don't want to
go there. It's kind of boring.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
There's nothing. Yeah, it's not the eighties, nothing's going on anymore.
Yeah okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And then and then even the thing with side stage,
I'm like, well, if you like how the band sounds,
you don't want to sit side stage.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You're gonna hate it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Like it's cool the first time you do it, and
after that, it's like at festivals, all hang out with
artists ound in the crowd because they want to be
out in the crowd too.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
That's the best place to be man, right.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Exactly, you know, you know, is it fun sometimes when
you're side stage seeing what's going on kind of, but
I'd still rather be in what's going on. Elia, And
that's the key that see. That's I think the difference
between metal heads and other genres is we're not there
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for anything else but the pure love of metal.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
First, musician second or I don't know, the lines are
kind of blurred. I'd say it's like fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
On me with me for that, right.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Like always in the crowd, always trying to mingle.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
He used to call me the governor or mayor of
wherever we go, and it used to drive him crazy.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Because he's used to is he still drives me nutty.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Nice, nice.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Gotta have somebody like that. Davis like eternally out going.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So well, there you go, and I'm glad you brought
that up too, because everybody thinks that all musicians are extroverted,
and most of them are actually not.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I saw a new phrase for that the other day,
and I wish I could remember what it was.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It it was kind of like amb averted there's something like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It was something about like it was it was like
an oxymoron where it was like an extroverted introvert where like,
you know, I definitely hit a wall sometimes, especially in
crowds and with people, and like I have a definite
social battery and like, you know, if my mood is
off or not right, like I don't want to be
around people. But like generally when I'm in a in
good spirits and at a show or hang out. And
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that's why I love the metal scene so much, is because,
like I feel like there's more my social battery seems
a little more extended in those situations than just day
to day dealing with people, crowds, being out.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
So but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It's I hate when people want to put labels on you, like,
oh that it, yeah, introverted, extrovert, Okay, Like shut up, okay,
Like why can't I just be who I am. I
don't need a label, like I often say. I often say,
and people try to label it. I'll say to people
like I'm a total extrovert and a loner at the
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same time, and most people don't get what that means,
so they're trying to say, oh, you're an introvert extrovert. No,
I'm not introvert at all. I could be at a
music festival one hundred thousand people and I feel like
I'm there with my one hundred thousand closest friends, but
that I'm alone at the same time and the best
of both worlds.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That's a nice thought. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You know, my daughter, even when I said to her
one time, she goes, you know, you're right. I've noticed
like when we're all around, you are totally involved and
with everybody, but you're also in your own world at
the same time, you know, Like I said, And when
you're up on stage, I think what people don't get
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is you go into this zone dude, like and you
don't even It's almost like an add body experience. You
don't really realize you're there at that moment in time, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
At all.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
And then on the back end of it, every after
every show, I like think back and I'm like, oh, wow, yeah,
I guess we really did do that. Like right, It's
like there's a somewhere is a clip circulating of me,
like from a video where like a dude dives off
like stage, dives right in front of me, like he
walks like ran across the stage, goes right in front
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of me and dives off the stage and gets carried
away by the crowd. I had no idea that that
had happened until I watched.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
The video of it later.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
I was like, dude, I would be too easy to
kill up there, honestly, Like, I got no clue what's going.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
On right right?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, I also know from all the arts I know,
and me as a beaker and radio person, like I
am nervous right up until you turn that mic on
then totally and and there's a switch in my head
that just changes, you know.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
And so that's an eiry thing.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Like I know so many musicians that have stage fright
and people think, well, that's weird.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
No, it's just a normal human thing.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But yeah, then you go into this other mode once
the mic turns on or what or the guitar turns
on or whatever it is that you're doing, you know.
And I love talking about that because I think people
truly don't understand musicians.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, I would agree, and I think that that's not
talked about quite a bit. I actually found a lot
of comfort in listening to the Jazz to Show because
he would talk to musicians about that, Like hearing Steve
Bye talk about like that and hearing you know, just
these guitarists that you know, have these storied careers I've
looked up to, like talk about those kinds of things,
and like you know what they go through on stage.
(09:05):
Sometimes it's like I get that, Like it helped me
a lot, like over the years especially, you know, just
kind of getting out of my own head sometimes and like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Years and years ago, I'd be like, oh, I hit
a wrong note. Everybody knows it. Now I'm like, nobody's
fucking heard that.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, you have to take a page. I had a
David Lee Roth book. Yeah, okay. I was at the
nineteen eighty three US Festival and they started playing on
Ain't Talking about Love. There's three hundred thousand people there,
and Eddie starts looking over at Dave because he's not singing,
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and Dave just looks at the crowd and shouts in
the mic, I fucking forgot the words. Yeah, and the
whole place cheered like it was the best thing that
ever happened.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
You know, It's just such an honest moment and like
such a human thing.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And I feel like a lot of like pressure.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Has also come down on musicians lately to like not
have those moments and not have it be as human
and just for like the experience to be so perfect
for crowds, like there's that I see, you know a
lot of stage production and backing tracks on a lot
of bands, and I don't I'm not gonna knock that,
like we've considered doing that at some point, or kind
of beefing up some of our production live. But like
those moments too, you know when you see like one
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of your favorite it's just it's a unique experience and
it's it's holy human and you know, I can't fault anybody.
It just makes it that much more incredible to experience it.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That's the beauty of live music, man, Like, you know
how what you said earlier hit home. You know how
many times bands screw up and nobody notices, like no, nobody,
And I don't think like I would notice, only to
pay attention to notice, you know, it's like I'm not
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worried about are you hitting the right note? You know,
like I'm just there in the moment, enjoying it, and
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Really, that's the beauty of live music.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
If you want to be exactly like the record, just
listen to the record.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Yeah, It's like you could go home and listen to
it like you're here for the vibe, Like.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, that's where the Grateful Dead were really smart. Because
there's no show that you could go. Grateful Dead was
the same thing, go.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Home and listen to the record. Yeah, my parents were
huge fans.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
That is like what I grew up hearing in the
house all day, every day from the record player.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Like they were gigantic dead. My mom still is. My
father passed, but my mom still a huge dead head.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
So like that's and that was kind of how I
was introduced to music, was through that.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You know, I eventually found my way to meddle.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But well, it was kind of similar for me because
you know, I remember, like I was into music since
I'm little, but I remember at one point in like
fifth grade, my friend showed me two albums, and there's
two of my favorite albums this day, and one was
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We Sold Our Souls for Rock and Roll Sabbath and
the other was Skeleton's from the Closet Grateful Dead. And
it's like the whole concept that that's the two that
he showed me.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
That couldn't be.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
More different, right, But oh yeah, but it like I
think it forms like that's the thing too. People think
that like whatever you're into, if it's metal, punk or whatever,
that's all you listen to. And even back in the
eighties when we had the gatekeeping days. Okay, you weren't
supposed to like certain things.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
But you secretly did.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Okay, you know, the eighties version of coming out of
the closet is admitting that you liked some new wave
y you know. It's like I interviewed Josie Cotton, who
I'm friendly with now, and I'm like, you know, I'm
just gonna say it now. In the eighties, I wasn't
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allowed to like you, but I'm gonna tell you. I
don't want anybody to know.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
And this is in the interview. I say it like that,
but I secretly did like it back then. But don't
tell anybody, just.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Get out right exactly. But we all like different types
of music, different vibes. I was a teenager, I was
a total thrash metal head, but I did go to
Slayer shows on Friday night and Dead shows on Saturday.
Just a different vibe, man. But you know, dead heads
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are the whole different. Like I have a lot of
dead Head friends. Yeah, I consider myself somebody that likes
the Dead, but the fanaticism just blows my mind, like
that people have for the Dead, like cause I like
a lot or dust. But if I'm not on drugs,
sometimes a little bored by it. Yeah, that's the key, Yeah, exactly,
(14:09):
Like I don't do any of that stuff anymore. But
I do remember going to a Dead show and I
took some shrooms and my whole trip was I didn't realize.
So next day I was actually tripping. I kept saying,
they're they were bad, they're not working. I don't feel anything.
And then the next day I was like, oh, maybe
(14:31):
I did. Yah's dangerous, right right, you know, but uh yeah,
And then you know, it's funny you talk about finding metals,
so like, you know, my generation, there was no real metal,
Like the closest thing to metal was Zeppelin, Cream Mountain,
(14:55):
you know, Sabbath obviously, but you know, it's like I
remember stealing my brothers albums from like bands like The Association,
the Rascals, the Grassroots, and there was just there was
this like like.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Chain of events.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
So then it so then it went to you know,
British Medal Priest Maiden. Then it went to like I
went to Motley Crue at the Roxy before they had
an album. They weren't Hammel, they were like horror punk. Yeah,
And I remember going at show. I'm like, I'm never
(15:38):
going to a real concert ever again. That was awesome.
Next thing, you know, I'm going like Slayers first show ever,
Metallica's first show ever.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Not allowed to like Motley Crewe anymore. You're now in
the Slayer Okay, and I did.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
I went through like my favorite bands while I was
young were Kissing the Beatles, and then it was Zeppelin,
then it was Ozzy, then it was Slayer, you know,
and it's like and then and then I found Possessed, yeah,
and that was like, oh my god, that's awesome, and
(16:15):
now I found a cursed Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
We did all that without the Internet back then too,
which blows my mind even more because like it was
a vastly different landscape. Like I similarly, like when I
I was obsessed with like Duop for a while when
I was like thirteen, the Elvis Presley for some reason,
when I was in like third grade, but like, you know,
found Metallica when I started playing guitar and wanted to
like kind of start leaning into that, started learning like
(16:41):
most of kill them all. And then like I had
a friend, I was meeting people locally, and that's how
it happens. You know, somebody introduces you to another band
and like it. Very long time ago, probably like two thousand,
I was introduced.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
To like Children of Boat them.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
They handed me a Children of Botom CD and another
band called Balsagath, who, like you do some taking on it.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
It's kind of I don't even know how to describe
it now.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I've probably been listening to them in twenty five plus years,
but pretty epic. There's swords and there's a lot of
like you know, very epic metal. But as soon as
I heard that, I was like, there's so much more
going on, And then like I'd go back to listen
to Metallica.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
And I was like, I can't.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Like, I still appreciate it, but like my journey kind
of started there, and those were like my formative years
of just getting into like you know, melow Death from
like Finland, Sweden, some black metal from Norway.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I didn't get too into that.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I was there and got confirmed a few weeks ago
in an interview when Kronos from Venom punched out Tom
Mariah All because he said, you guys aren't black metal.
We're black metal, you know, yeah, and you know, so
(17:59):
for me, it was there were two things. One was
the tape trading days. Of course, of course that's how
you found your music. But I used to go into
this record store in the valley. I told his story
a lot because it's so cool. And there was this
record store called OZ Records, and there was this record
(18:24):
clerk there that every time you went in, he would
hand you an album and go, you gotta check this out,
or he would show you a flyer for a gig,
go to this gig. Yeah, And that was Brian Slagel
and it was when he started Metal Blade Records.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Okay, damn.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
And that's cool, right, And like you don't even think
He didn't even think, because I approached him a few
years ago. I'm like, hey man, that was a brilliant
marketing move. He's like, that was just a record store clerk, man,
Like I didn't think of it that way. But I
do think of it that way because it's like, what
better way to promote your bands but to be a
(19:04):
record store clerk.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's kind of a sick move, right, I.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Mean, that's freaking brilliant, Like, oh my god, And you
know he introduced me stuff. Maybe I would have never known,
Like I remember he the first album he showed me.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Was Venom Welcome to Hell.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And before that I was listening to stuff like Judas Priest,
Iron Maiden, you know, and and then I remember listening
to this album what reading the lyrics while I'm listening, and.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Literally I got scared, like what the hell?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And you know, obviously I'm not scared anymore, but you know, yeah, well,
and then you find out too that you know, it's
not what everybody thinks, Like I had the initial reaction
that probably everybody had about me and what like I
used to get told to devil worshiper because I wore
an Aussie shirt, you know. And I remember hanging out
(20:07):
with Slayer back in the day and they would laugh
backstage that people thought they were actual devil worshipers, you know. Yeah,
people don't read the lyrics either. That's the problem nowadays.
Like maybe if you read the lyrics, you would know
what they're actually meaning.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
By it, yea.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
And yeah, I think that's what happened with people like
parents back in the day like that were oh my god,
Like the parents should just read the lyrics and they
would have realized that it wasn't what they thought it was.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, So how did this come about? How did you
guys come about?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So interesting?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, I started this project in about twenty seventeen, I
want to say. I sent out with another guitar player,
buddy of mine, and like we started kind of auditioning drummers,
trying to find and people and kind of just organizing
some riffs and like writing and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
You know, we didn't have like a lot done.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I see a lot of bands now that like get
everything prepped and then launch, and it's like maybe that
might have been smart, but you know so, but like
I always like I knew what I wanted the band
to be. I knew what I wanted to represent, I
know what I wanted the sound to be, and I
had like a lot of material that just kind of
was disorganized.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I had not played for probably about eight years due
to shoulder injury, coming back from moving back from Arizona
to Connecticut, and I just kind of wanted to capture
some of like what I loved about the sound I
heard out there from like a lot of the local
bands I played with and like played in. It was
just culturally very kind of different metal wise, and I
(21:49):
didn't see exactly what I wanted, not exactly what I wanted.
I didn't really see like that sound up here, So
I was like, all right, start something.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know. The early years were very formative. We made
a lot of missteps.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
We you know, had member turnover, you know, quite a
lot of stuff as we kind of refined and wrote songs.
We've worked with a lot of great musicians, you know
in the band, We've played with a lot of great people.
But yeah, over the last two years, i'd say we
kind of really started kind of buttoning things up.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
You know.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Chris joined us after our last bass player left, found
him on Facebook and just shot him a random message
and nice.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
The rest was history.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, he went to his requests too, so he didn't
even see it for a couple of weeks, but that
it wound up ultimately working out.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And then you know, Will joined us.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
A couple of months after that, huh, A couple months
after I did.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Months after you did.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, And he had never screamed before, and you know,
he'd probably stopped me right now if he was able
to connect to the interview. But yeah, so we threw
him into it because he came and like tried it out,
and I was like, all right, well, you've got this
like almost hardcore like mid range vocal fry that like
I think sounds really good it and like I want
you to really like work on this and keep getting better.
(23:03):
And we knew, you know, we could have gone, you
know with somebody who had like thirty years experience, but like,
personality wise, he clicked right away and like he you know,
demonstrated immediately like I want to put in the effort
and time and like this is my thing.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So well, if you're watching this at some point.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
We we like immediately, you know. One of the first
shows we did with him was CT death Fest, like
right after he joined, and then like right after that,
we threw him in the studio because we had four tracks,
like everything was done except for vocals, and it was
like you're up, bud, and he was like, so it
was a learning experience for him.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
He really like we threw him.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Into the deep end of the pool, but definitely well,
he did amazing and every every day he just gets
better and better. We recently picked up a new drummer
for you know, that's been working out really well. We
finally added second guitar back, which I've been wanting to
do for a while, for like a year and a
half amost two years, I was kind of just holding
(24:01):
it down solo. And then if you ever really want
to be seen on stage and like not want to
hit a wrong note, tried being the only.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Guitar player, right right, Yeah, yeah, it's unnerving at times,
but yeah, so but yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And you know, we we in losing our last drummer
and before finding Ethan, you know, we wanted to get
something out because it had been a few months since
we had done anything, and we've got material written for
probably seven song LP. We're still kind of like moving
some of that stuff around, but like you know, we're
gonna plan on starting to record that soon. But sever
(24:35):
was a song that like was done and we wanted
to get it out just to give people something kind
of bridge the gap.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I know, it's not the like industry way to do things.
I know people are like, no, you have to like
have stuff ready to go. I'm like, I don't care.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I likes the song is pretty fucking awesome and like
I wanted to get it out, so like we did
the Fly by the seat of our pants, Mad Scrambled.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You know, Oh, we're coming down to the wire. We
already set the launch dag.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
We need artwork, we need this over, you know, and
we're still learning all that stuff too, which you know,
I've Chris has been instrumental in that.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Will's been really helping out with that. I handle a
lot of it.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Will all work full time too, so it's like it's
really like another full time job. But we're starting to
kind of figure out how to do this a little less.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
On the end. But yeah, I mean, every every day
is a learning process.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Everything we do is an opportunity to learn, like what works,
what doesn't, you know, and to keep refining what we're doing.
Like the new material that we're writing now is like
and I think you can probably hear it through the catalog.
Our old guitar player TJ contributed a lot of the
writing to the first album. A lot two of the
songs he wrote, and then you know, him and I
worked on the other two and kind.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Of button that stuff up and traded riffs.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
We did a cover of Cold and we dropped Beneath
the Burning Sky. I think he wrote the outro piece
in that song, so you know, still, I think that
was kind of the last of the contributions there going forward.
It's been me writing with Chris and Will yeah, and
now we've got Rob and Ethan and like we're just
(26:13):
kind of trying to get everything together to make sure
we're as tight as we can do when we get
in the studio.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
But yeah, every step of the way is just we're.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Constantly trying to elevate, you know, what we're doing, and
we try to stay true to ourselves too, Like I
don't care about paying fan service, Like I love our fans.
Obviously we would be where we are without them, and
we're trying to grow that fan base.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But like I don't, I do this because I love
making the music.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Like again, like I said before, like I you know,
I do get stage fright too, and I do black
out and I have fun and like whenever, you know,
I get But like I've talked to Chris about it,
it's probably my least favorite part about being a musician.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I'm sure people would be like that's insane, like why
do you do this?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Then it's like, well, because when I connect with my
guitar and I'm like playing late at night and I'm
like writing a riff or a song or like inspiration
hits men, like something comes out it's like that, it
feels more like a conduit than a creator, and it's
like this, I want to put the music out. I
feel like there's more music in me that need, you know,
(27:14):
to be shared. And like these guys they keep me real,
they keep you know, we try to keep each other
in check. Chris Lens like such, yeah, I don't even
know what on bass, Like he's a madman on bass.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And then like you know, compositionally, like he keeps me
in check.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
And then we'll argue, you know, with the final process
of writing, us argue about what should we want.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
But it's all it's all for trying to get the best.
There's a lot of yelling between Dave and I, but
it always results in the best finished products. Like if
Dave and I are like literally, I mean David and
I are pretty much best friends, and when we're literally
screaming at each other in the practice room, like that's
when the best piece is gonna come out. It's like
because we always come to the same place where we're
(27:58):
like bicker, bicker, bicker, and then it's like fuck it,
We'll just play it both ways and whatever sounds best,
and then we'll a be it Like play it both ways,
and inevitably one of us goes over it shakes the
other guy's hand.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
It's like, okay, you were right, fine, Okay, it's better
that way.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So it's kind of like you're like Field and Lars.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, kind of we're going.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
But I love hearing all that because I think a
lot of people also don't realize that the band doesn't
really become the band until you get to that lineup,
that evolution of the lineup, you know, and that's where
you're kind of at now, which.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Is cool because that people don't realize too.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
As musicians, you want to evolve and you want to
get better at your craft. You know, a lot of
us fans we like to for you to stay a
garage band, but who wants to do that if this
is what you're doing for a living, you know, And yeah, right,
you know.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Tell everybody how they can reach out to you and
connect with your music by your merch check out everything
that's going on with you guys.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Obviously socials would be the best place to kind of
keep an update on what we're doing day to day
and what's coming up. We've been a little quiet recently,
on there, but we're kind of working on some content
and getting better at posting and stuff. As much as
I'm in it, I'm the oldest that I'm just like,
I can't after a certain time of the day with screens.
But you can find us on Instagram and Facebook a
(29:34):
Cursed ct YouTube as well. We just dropped a new
music video for this track yep nice a Curse Dot Band.
There's a banner at the top of the page to
sign up for our mailing list.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Please do that. We're trying to get more people to
sign up for email. That way we can provide more.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Behind the scenes exclusive kind of offers and stuff on
certain merch runs and stuff, just for you know, those
early adopters and key fans. Is that you know, join
that and that's a Curse Dot band. From there, it's
linked if you click on merch to go straight to
our square space site and you can buy merch there.
If you're outside of the US and there's some sort
of issue with shipping dm us on Facebook or something,
(30:16):
it's very it's a free site, so it's very kind
of finicky and how you can set up shipping costs
and stuff. And now with tariffs and Vattax and stuff like,
I don't want to see anybody get screwed and have
to pay, like, you know, sixty dollars just to ship
a shirt.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
We'll get it to you. I've got a couple of
shirts to Germany.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
We'll figure it out about it.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
So yeah, and then we're on all major streaming platforms.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So yeah, make sure go listen, Go forth and listen
and let us know if you want us to come
play your town if it's when. We're trying to expand
kind of regionally at this point, so like you know,
we're focused on a lot of shows kind of around
New England and Connecticut and trying to book there.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
So well, come on down to South Florida. Nobody likes
to come here because it sucks here.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I'm all in.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I'm near westbom Beach. There's actually a really cool a
couple of real cool venues near me. One's respectable Street
in West bond and then in Fort Lorido there's this one,
the Culture Room.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I did, but.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
We definitely need to see you on like Danny Wimmer festivals.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
All right, so I know she'd let us crash there
and then you know, let's get there.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
So there you go. I did watch your video. You
guys are badass. Everybody's got to out your music and
I hope to see a lot more great music from
you guys.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
And thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Than you. I really really appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
You got it.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Thanks so much, Take care.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man.
I'm w for c u I Radio.
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