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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you love done to censure.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Fore wow for you your This is the pipe Man
here on the Adventures of Pipe Man W four c
Y Radio. And I'm very excited about our next guest
because she is an absolute badass with some badass new music.
So let's welcome to the show, Mixy from Stitched Apart.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
How are you, amen, It's good to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Good to see you. One thing also I have to
tell the listeners right off the bat is you are
like one of the nicest people in metal.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Thanks, because I know everybody I know is friendly with you,
and I've seen you because I do all the festivals.
I've seen you there even when you're not performing, and
you're just like the so social butterfly with everything.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh you got me on a good day. Over time,
I have gotten a little more introverted. Like I used
to be a lot more outgoing and like talk to everybody,
but now I'm like, I don't know they like me.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And you know, maybe it's because of being in the
industry so long, Like you never know. Sometimes with people.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's hard, and I do protect my energy like crazy now,
so I do try to like keep my circle really
small with people that are super loyal and I've just
gotten burned so much, you.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Know, mm hmmm, yeah, And I'm big about loyalty. So
that's why I think this new music is so killer
because it's so real and it's real things that you're
going through all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, I mean, like, what else is there to write
about somebody else's experiences?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Right? Well, that's that's for the pop artists.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
It's every album is different because you're in a different
place in your life, you know, and you're working with
different people, collaborating with different things, You're into different stuff,
and every couple of years you evolve and change. And
this one was definitely a lot of shetting that shadow self,
that skin that let's embrace the crazy that we all
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have inside of us at least no acknowledge it and
love that just as much as the good parts and
just uh it was we tried to have fun with it.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
So yeah, well I'll even go a step further. I
acknowledge my crazy, and I actually like other people's crazy,
so that's part of my crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah. I definitely gravitate like a moth to a flame
to crazy people.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Oh man, that's totally me. In fact, to my daughter
has brought me to sign I hang it in my
bedroom now and says, my what next wife won't be crazy?
And right I answered, I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't bet
on that if I were you. But you know what,
that's what makes great creativity too.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
You gotta be a little crazy to do this job, that's.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
For sure, no doubt, no doubt. And so the new
single Medusa. I love that you did it with Lyric
Noel because it's so funny. Her name keeps coming up everywhere. Okay,
I just stay interview with twelve Stones recently, who collabored
with Lyric Noel. And then one of my publicists I
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deal with says, hey, I want you to interview Lyric
Noel And this is all in the matter of a month.
And then yes, and it's like, wow, She's everywhere collaborating
with everybody.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I love her so much. I'm so happy to hear
that she deserves more recognition and I just want that
woman to succeed. She's a goddess and I love her
so Yes, it was very awesome to work with her.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, and then of course one of my favorite people
you worked with on this album too is Heidi from
Butcher babies.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yes, Ah, that was like a dream come true. Like Heidi,
I love her, like she's just I She's always been
so supportive. There's been so many times that we've had
conversations over the last sixteen years or something we've been
friends that it's like super heartfelt, deep stuff, like we
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know what each other has gone through for the most part.
You know, we have been in each other's shoes on
a lot of occasions, and so it's Yeah, it was
really awesome to do this song with her.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, she's so cool and so real and like one
of the things I love about her her voice is
great as a brutal voice, but her singing voice is amazing.
Most people don't realize how good of a singing voice
she has, which she started that way.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yes, and every time I've always told her, I want
to hear you singing, Moore, I want to hear you
sing Your voice is so beautiful. So I'm glad she
embraces that that part of our But I love the
vicious feral.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
PiZZ me too. Well, that's see, that's the thing. Okay.
I come from the eighties medal where we were stupid idiots,
gatekeeping shit and listen women, to me, are the ones
should be dominating metal because they are just such the
badasses between somebody like you and Heidi and Courtney and
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Tatiana and I mean, the list goes on, and it
starts off with you know, Wendy O Williams, you know,
and it's like you're a whole badass. And what's badass
about it? I think your brutal singing, it's more brutal
than any guy.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I think, you know, maybe we'll get to a point
where there's an equal playing field here. I think we're
getting closer and closer as time goes, and not just
in the metal industry and just life and you know,
powerful positions in general. I feel like women definitely get
pushed down a lot in not allowing us to know
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what our power is, not always telling us from like
a childhood that we're just like like sit down, raise
your hand when spoken to, get in the kitchen, make
me a sandwich. Like I every time I make a
sandwich in the kitchen, I always do it for my husband,
And I like, I know, this is like not like
me to make a sandwich for no dude, But like,
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I think I do believe there is definitely some evolution
in the divine feminine rising right now, and and hopefully
that I not hopefully it will definitely cause a stir
in the metal community as well.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well. I think it already is because I've been noticing
a lot of bands that are losing their lead singer
are replacing that lead singer with female with the check. Yes,
I love it. It's amazing, Like even like, you know,
a lot of people gave them a hate about the
whole Lincoln Park thing, and she is like one of
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the nicest people, and she does have a really really
good voice. I mean, it's hard to live up the Chester,
but I think that was a smart move instead of
putting another guy in there.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I love that idea. I honestly, if I see if
I'm going to watch band and I see that there's
a girl playing an instrument on stage, I'm gonna stop
and watch a little longer. That's just for me personally,
and maybe because I'm a girl, and I'm like, oh, yes,
another chick rocking out up there.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But like the.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Percentage wise, I like to look at the list of
bands on festivals right and the percentage of those bands
that have females in the bands and a handful out
of hundreds of bands on each festival, thousands of bands.
It's not people think, Okay, so there's a couple more
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girl bands. With girls, there's so much more room, there's
so much more sun for everyone. And it's like, why
are you trying to limit the amount of women that
we're allowed to have place?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Stupid? I'm gonna be blunt. It's stupid because listen, it
makes more sense. Women are more passionate generally than men,
Women are more emotional general generally than men. And what
two components are the most important in music, especially metal music?
Those two in my opinion, I mean, I am not
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going to argue with that, and I love that you also,
you know, you use your platform to advocate for more
women in rock and metal, and that's really cool because
the people out there that are saying artists should not
use their platform and they should just do their music
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and not speak it's the stupidest shit ever too, Like
why wouldn't you you have to play form?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Why?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And music has always been about that? What are songs
written about? Stuff like that? You know? And like read
the words, will you? Right?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah? I mean, like the music speaks for itself in
a lot of ways. I think that's how artists kind
of get that out, get what they're thinking and what
they're going throughout into the music. And yeah, when you
talk about it online anything anything you talk about. But
lately I don't really care. I don't want to oversaturate
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where I'm at, like in my growth as a person.
But I do like to leave breadcrumbs every once in
a while on the internet and just add little things
that maybe we'll make somebody think about looking up at
the guy or something like that, you know, like outside
of what we're just distorted, like phone life that we're
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living in, you know. But I've been Yeah, so there's
there's moments that I feel like it's good to talk
about what you're really going through. And who cares if
somebody disagrees with it, Hey, they're not going to listen
to your music anyway. Who cares? Like, but be they're
just not your people. They're not all people, and you
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don't have to get along with everybody.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And I don't even get the people that waste their
time hating on other people's posts, Like I don't have
enough time to go and hate on people. Man, what
you have nothing better to do? Like these trolls that
go in and like I think it's I feel bad
for artists today because before the Internet, artists dealt with
a lot, but they didn't deal with this, and now
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they so many artists get so many, so much hate
from these screen warriors.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
That's all it is, is just like keyboard warriors that
just need to feel powerful in some way, so they're
going to send you a death threat or they're going
to spam your comments section, and that makes them feel powerful.
But they're just trendy. They're just trendy. They're just trying
to get attention, and we know that they don't have
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it at home. And unfortunately that is their projection of
their own life onto other people. And I really do
hope that those people actually figure that out, that maybe
be nicer to other humans. Like just because you're treated
that way in your life or whatever you're going through,
you don't need to take it out on other people.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That you barely know exactly. I think if you really
want to empower yourself, you'd be a good human being.
It's that simple. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, it's true,
it's true. But you know, they can't feel better about it,
like if they tried being good. Maybe they would find
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out it's not so fun to be negative and evil
all the time, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I honestly just don't even waste my breath.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Hilly out of here now.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You were like the queen of collabing too, Like this
whole almost this whole new album is collabing with other people.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, it was fun. It was a lot of fun
and a lot of that. I'm going to give credit
to the label because they kept we had like a
few features and they're like, you want to let's do more,
let's do more, and I'm like, okay, like let's get
the whole thing. I didn't expect like there's only two songs.
I think that don't a feature.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
The last two are the ones.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The screamy ones. But it was like, yeah, I mean
everything it was. It was really fun. It was really fun,
and I would do a whole album of collaborations again.
It was like awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So I had to laugh also because I saw, you know,
of course the name, you know, with the name Medusa
think of and people think of, you know, snakes and
them being bad and and actually I had to laugh
when you were quoted saying that the snake was actually
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scared of you.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, yeah, very scared. Uh. And I get it, Like
if you look at the things that kill people the most,
aside from people, there's mosquitoes and then there's snakes, and
just like anything, you're gonna have good snakes and bad snakes,
Like there's not everything is bad. Like, I get it.
They're they're kind of you don't understand them. We don't
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understand much about them, but there's something sacred about them.
If you look at like ancient history, there's always the serpents.
There's these very historical powerful beings, goddesses and stuff wearing
snakes on their head, cobras. Yeah, and so there's something
more to it. And I just it's a face your
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fears kind of thing if you dare to watch.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I know, right, I think sometimes two people consider certain,
you know, other beings besides humans, it's scary only because
they don't know enough or you know, or because of
how they treat the animal like or the reptile or whatever.
You know, if you're going to treat it like crap,
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it's not going to be nice to you.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, yeah, And I mean that's actually something I've been
working on. Usually I'll shoe away a bug or you know,
like if as spider's in my house now, I like
pick it up with an envelope and take it outside,
even though I had organ come the other day, and
I feel really really bad. So I think, like, you know,
everything has a soul. In my what I'm trying to
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understand with what I believe, And so the snake has
a soul, and it was just the soul that wanted
to incarnate in this life as a snake, and maybe
it wanted to experience something, and we decide to be
humans in this life. And I feel like those same
souls are our dogs or our cats or little man
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fragments of the soul. And so every animal I've been
looking at like it's like got consciousness. Like I've watched
lizards like literally look at me and like are you
remote viewing dude? What's up? But yeah, I think that
we definitely are trained to think certain things are good
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and trained to a condition to think that certain things
are bad. For example, Hawthor, let's go back to ancient Egypt.
We're going super deep here, Hawthor, the being, this goddess, deity,
this beautiful goddess who had was represented with a bullhead,
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and the bullhead is now looked at as this horrible,
evil satan anti Christ. We're going down the rabbit hole here,
I'm gonna I'm gonna dial it back.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
But you see, you could go. You can go with
it because I'm with you one hundred And you know what,
you made me laugh again because one of my ex
wife's big complaints about me is when she wanted me
to kill a bug, I would take it and put
it outside instead of killing it, and like, well, you
just kill it. Why I have to kill it. I
can put it outside and it's not going to bother
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you anymore and they can go about its business.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yes, yes, I agree, And they don't know, like if
you're a being, if you're a little bug, like you're
a fly, you just want to try this earth thing
for like a couple days, because they live like a
couple days. You're a fly, so you can incarnate into
fly life. You get into someone's house, now you're stuck here.
Now you don't know how to get out. Now you're
doing the whole family guy thing and you're trying to
get out the window and you go upstairs, but Uh, yeah,
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I don't know. It's like a quick test game, just
test it out.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Right, right? So what I were only one new music?
How do you keep going with all the ball you've
probably had to deal with all these years being an artist?
What is it that keeps motivating you to do this?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I can't stop every time I think about it, and
I really think about this, because it's our life, right,
It's our one life and this body and this vessel,
and like I've been doing it my whole life. Anytime
I even contemplate it, I go down this deep, deep,
deep path and to back to just like, no, you're
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here to create music. You're here to create art. This
is part of it. So I always like it's hard.
It's hard. Sometimes it all is so hard, But I
know it's my path and I don't have another option.
I den't. I think I signed up for this.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
So that's well. See, I love that because I'm also
a motivational speaker. And one of the things I always
say is in order to succeed, you have to have
nothing to fall back on, because then you have no
choice but to move forward, Like too many people will
fall back on the easy, you know path, and you
have not, and that that's that's what makes you a
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glitch bitch.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, glitch out that system, no doubt, you know, honestly,
do you think about it? I definitely chose a very
unique path, like musicians in general, creatives that followed their heart.
No matter how many people told them that music can't,
you won't succeed at that. Like why do why paint?
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My art teacher in high school said you should, you know,
do graphic designs or something, because painting it won't make
you any money. Art won't make you any money. And
I've found that, like I've been able to succeed when
I started selling my paintings. I've been like every time
I go to the post office, I'm just like I
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I don't know, you.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Might be wrong, but I love it.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I just think, follow your heart, whatever that is, you.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Got it because listen, like you said, you only got
one life, you might as well be happy. And how
many people are doing what they're supposed to be doing
and maybe even successfully, and they're miserable a lot exactly exactly, Hey,
you might.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Be doing what you're supposed to be doing and still
be miserable too.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, that's true too.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I was there like a year or two ago, I
was in a super deep depression actually, but a couple
of years ago, and I tried all these antidepressants and
all that stuff, and I found that all of that
didn't work. I was allergic to antidepressants. I don't drink
having In ten years, I tried aa all therapy, two
therapists at one time. I quit everything because I was like, listen,
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maybe I'm not broken. Maybe I'm just calling it something
and saying I have to fix it all all the time.
Maybe it's just learning about yourself and understanding. And when
I learned to look inside and start like really getting
to know myself because I have a lot of self
love to work on, right, that was where I started
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to find that I'm a lot cooler than I think
I am, like as far as I have really low
self esteem had And it's made me learn about myself
and try to care about myself a little more and
know how many like, how much more I am than
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this body.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You know. I'm so happy to hear that, because I
don't think people realize, even with everything that's gone on
throughout the years, that artists are some of the most
tortured souls. So the fact that you're finding yourself. To me,
I think that's amazing because and I think it's amazing
you're talking about because so many people like look at
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somebody like you and like, oh, you're living the dream life.
And partially that's true, and then there's the other part
they don't see, you know, and what you're going through.
And I think it's helpful for others out there to
hear that you're going through the same things that are
going through.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yes, I think there's a lot of people going through
a lot of the similar stuff right now too. So
if I can like communicate and relate and connect in
that way and be honest, then I feel like that's
the best way to let people know that, like they're
not the only ones and you know, we all are connected.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yep. It's the only way to feel better about yourself
is being honest with yourself because a lot of times
we're not even honest with ourselves.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Oh yeah, that's all. That's a big one, actually, because
like this is where that of work comes in, because
we all are It was not our fault. It was
totally not It's all them, not me. It couldn't be me. No, no, no, Actually,
it's probably you a little bit right projecting your stuff
onto other people. When you look at other people and
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something bothers you about them, it's because you've got to
work on that with yourself. Probably most of the time
it's projection when you're judging or you're thinking to like
low about someone else. But yeah, I think that find
figure out how to love yourself, because we don't need
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all of those meds. I mean, there are some good
meds out there, but for some people. But there is
searching for yourself inside and trying to figure out who
you are and finding yourself truly, which is always a journey,
but will give you more purpose.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I feel like when you you know, yeah, I agree.
I think also worrying about yourself, because that's really what
the problem is a lot of times we work about
everybody else, and the minute we start worry about ourselves,
people think we're being selfish. But you need to worry
about yourself to work on yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I think we've been like kind of trained to do that,
so conditioned to not think differently than everybody else and
to not speak out, not saying thing, do what we're
supposed to be doing, and like even as soon as
we get out the womb, as soon as we're a baby,
we're like slapped immediately punched by life. And I feel
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like we came into this life like less jaded and
things happened to other people's projections created you and like
all the things that hurt you over time, and then
we turn into this shelled.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Up, little wounded thing and we don't know how to
love ourselves because everything's been mean and has abandoned us
and betrayed us and lied to us over and over,
deeply wied.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
To us, and so we don't know how to think
that we have any power at all. We've been gas
lilt our whole lives to believe that. So, uh, I
don't fucking listen anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Good for you, because you know what, at the end
of the day, here's what I found out. People don't
listen to you, So why should you listen to them?
You know, especially the closest people to you. They're always
telling you how to do things and what to do
and what's wrong. The minute you say something, you're supposed
to clam up, but it's okay for them to say it.
Type of thing. I've experienced that a lot like it.
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You know, I think everybody needs to also kind of
walk in other people's shoes, and like, I'm very good
at that as a libra, I can't. I tend to
be able to see the other side, even if I
don't agree with the other side, I can maybe like
see it. Like even with the kid's mom, there's things
that are so fundamentally different between the two of us,
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but I always say, yeah, she has a right to
think the way she does. That's who she is. It
may not be who I am. I may not agree
with it, but you know, I think people need to
start realizing that we're all individuals and we all have
different variables. Like I have a brother. He's very judging,
just like you were talking about, and he's definitely projecting,
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but he doesn't realize he's projecting. And every time he
says something like if they don't agree with him, they're
uninformed and uneducated, and then I'll say no, or they
grew up somewhere different, they had different variables in life,
they had different upbringing, they had different influences, or they
just like different things than you do. You know, it's
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pretty funny. One day. It shows how oblivious people are
too because he's a total not tattooed person, and you
know he judges still like because he's older and he
judges still like. And one day we're out to dinner
and he said something, I'm like, you do realize that
pretty much everybody has a tattoo? Now, it's like kind
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of normal, maybe everybody you hang out with, but I
don't know, I've never seen anybody with it. Well, then
you're not fucking opening your eyes because there's about fifty
people in this restaurant that are fully tatted and you're
telling me no. It's just also it's a.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Lot harder to clone people that are fully tattooed. And
also like you don't get human trafficked as often because
you're fully tattooed.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
There's some good things about it, but.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Right, right, and you know who cares. My big philosophy
is you do you if it makes you happy and
you're not intentionally hurting anybody and it makes you a
better person, have at it. I don't give a crap
what you do.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean some people are going to have
their thoughts. I don't care either. It's like, like I said,
not not your people to like, there's certain energies and frequencies.
I think that can work well together, and there's some
that just don't.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
And we don't have to be liked by everybody. That's
always been my issue my whole life, like always the
people please A are always whining everybody like me, and
like I am at the point now, I don't. I
don't give a fuck. No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I don't either, and I same. But so it's just
you do you don't you want, especially people you admire like,
so you put a lot more pressure on that. But
I think I'm just again at the point where it's
just like we're meant to be in each other's path,
then we're meant to be in each other's path. If
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we're not, then that's not my that's not our path.
And I'm not fighting anything anymore, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
And I think the best medicine you were talking about,
MAT's I think the best medicine for you as an
artist and for me as a listener is music and
the fact that you, as an artist have this new
album and you can express yourself any way you want.
That's the beauty of creating music, and somebody like me
can put my own meaning to it. And it can
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give me therapy.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Too, Yes, and I hope so, I mean that is
the goal. The goal was to have fun and shake
out the crazy on this one.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
No doubt. So tell everybody how they can connect to
you on socials, how they can check out the new album,
buy your merch because they can't listen to my show
unless they buy your merch. Yes, artists don't get anywhere
without merch.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yes, please do. It's stitched up heart dot com. You
can find all our YouTube, our Instagram, our Facebook, all
the stuff, all of TikTok. Well I personally do TikTok,
but everything is stitched up heart dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Nice. If you have any other final words you want
to share with the listeners or anything that you have
upcoming that we didn't talk about, that you want them
to know we got a bunch.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Of stuff coming up, but we are about to announce
but we can't.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, so then they have What you're saying is, or
what I'm saying is they have to connect to your
socials so they can pay attention for the announcements.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yes, exactly what you're saying there.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
It is.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Well, you rock this new music rocks and thank you
for being on the Adventures of Pipe Man. Thank you
for having me my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Hey, it's Mixy from Stitched Up Heart and you're listening
to the Pipemin on W four cy Radio. Thank you
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