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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you live on to censure.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wow for you your episode.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with
our next guest, who is over on the other side
of pond. So we're in like different parts of the
day right now. I always love that. Yeah, you know,
and uh and they have some badass new music. So
let's welcome to the show. Jay, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, not too bad. It's gonna say what time is
it for you guys say to that.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's nine o'clock for me.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
In the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, Yeah, you're automatically the first interview
of the day.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Amazing. It was a good one man. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
So I want to start off with the story behind
your new project, Bless You're Dead, which is really not
necessarily a new project. It's kind of a reinvented project.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, yes, pretty much exactly that. So I met Mitch.
I think it was twenty twenty twenty four, late twenty
twenty four. That was when the band originally was, when
we were wolves. They kind of they got back together.
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We're looking for another guitarist. I put myself forward. I
met Mitch. We joked really well together. When we were
write and stuff, all of our ideas kind of flowed
and connected and I would write a riff and then
he would be like, Oh, I can do something with this.
So from then on we did that. We did a
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few tours, not last year, year before amazing. It's kind
of my first experience doing a big tour and so
I kind of got a lot out of that and
really enjoyed myself. But we realized when we were writing
new music, it wasn't hitting the same is what we well,
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what the previous songs were like. It evolved into something
else and with different lineup changes and stuff. So we
kind of took a step back and just thought, maybe
it's time we just rebranded, new name, new sound, new members.
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And yeah, we spent the whole of last year just
Mitch has got its own kind of makeshift studio and
we've we've just been in that studio for the last year,
just writing, getting everything we can't down, even if we
don't use it. We're like, oh, we'll just take bits
from here, put it over here, put it in this
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song to film in music videos, and just just making
a plan for this year really nice.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
And you know what I love about it is when
I first saw the promo for your new single the
first and like, before I decide to do an interview,
I will listen to the music because like I don't
yet press people that try to do interviews with artists
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that they don't like the music, like I mean, especially
in metal, okay, you have to have passion for the
music to promote it, like it's not like it's pop,
you know, and an artist can tell too, like if
you have a passion for the music. So I listen
to your debut single, Everyone's a Target, which I feel
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that's like so appropriate for today, and you know, it
was a badass song. Then I read the description in
the press release, like I listen to which is what
I do. I don't want to be tainted. I want
to just listen to the music. And then read the
press release and I'm like, oh, I think I interviewed
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when we were Wolves at a festival, and like what
was cool about that is you know, when you rebrand
like you're doing the main reason you rebrand is because
you are kind of going in a different direction and
you don't not that you do this purposely, but you
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don't necessarily want people to only ever associate you with
your beginnings. You know. It's like if Black Sabbath never
changed their name from Earth to Black Sabbath, would we
have ever known about them? We will never know.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
That was something as well. When we were playing shows,
we had a lot of the older Wolves fans attend
the shows, and they would come up to us being like, oh,
be really sick if you could if you went and
played these old songs. And we were just like when
we have no intentions of plans to play the old stuff, right,
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we chucked in a couple of old songs for the
older fans, but going forward, we we did. We kind
of wanted to kind of get get those out of
the set. I just played the newer music and after
that was one of the things that made us kind
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of realized it's time for something new.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I mean, it makes total sense to me. Some people,
like you know, sometimes the old school fans may not
like it because that's kind of way it is, but
they they'll come back. It's just you know, when you're
young and like kind of gatekeeping. Yeah, you know, It's
like it's like for me when Metallica, you know, like
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I was going to all our first shows ever so
when Metallica came out with the Black album, me and
my friends were like, fuck them, posers, We're never listening
to them again. There's still one of my favorite bands,
but you know, oh yeah, yeah, It's like, but you
have to rebrand sometimes because like you said, like people
aren't gonna want to hear it old stuff, and if
you are going by the old name, you're kind of
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obligated to play that old stuff, you know. Like just
like bands I've been around for forth the years, or
songs they just don't want to play, but they have to,
you know. Yeah, But by.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
What you said with Metallica, like you're going to hear
in a Sanba. Like as much as people don't like
the big like core fans are kind of fed up
with people saying it's the best Metallica song, Metallica will
play that song live like they have to. Yeah they
have yeah, they have to.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah. Like me, I'd rather than like slip in something
like metal Militia And.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
They played they played two days at Download Festival a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I was there covering that yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And I remember they played a Ryan and I was like,
oh my god. I never thought I would ever hear
them play this. Yeah, I was so happy with like
the split sets because I was I've just heard a
bunch of Italica and I've always wanted to hear live,
and then I've got all the songs I've I've heard
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them play like before. But I was like, I'm finding this.
This is great.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That is what's cool about the two day thing that
they've been doing that for several years now, because it's
like it's almost like each day is themed to a
certain metallica you know, with others sprinkled there, not one
hundred percent, but like kind of like one day is
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for the old schorers and and the other days kind
of for the new scores, you know, type of thing
that's complete.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's that's great.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Like did you hear what happened that download that year? Okay?
So check this out?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Was it with the the traffic and the no the noise?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, that was that was what was just about to say.
Apparently it was just so loud that everyone could hear
it from like miles and miles and miles out.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
There were complaints like fifteen miles away, like see right,
the old school metal head like me, I'm like that's
fucking cool man, and like there were people fifteen miles
away that could hear it as if they were there,
because basically, Metallica design this sound system where no matter
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where you are at a music festival, it's you feel
like you're at the front as far as sound does.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, it's great, it's incredible, right. I think that if
I didn't have Metallica, I would not be doing this.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah see that, see that, and I'm browing me neither
it would neither be neither of us would be here,
you know. And that's what's cool because you know, I
look at metal today and it definitely has evolved, and
you know, it's like it's interesting because you take bands
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like Metallica and their inspirations, a lot of them aren't
even metal, you know, because there was no such thing.
You know, just like while I was a kid, you know,
I was still my brother's albums, who's eleven years older
than me, and there's stuff like the Rascals and the Association,
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you know, because there wasn't like, like I think about
it now too, I'm like, man, Helter Skelter definitely was
a heavy metal song, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, Like I was reading Ossie's first book and he
was talking about his influences and stuff, and I just thought, wow, yeah,
like the Beatles would be your influence because right there
was there was no metal before before you like, so
hearing what other like a lot of the older bands
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his main influences. But it was kind it is interesting
compared exactly days.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, like, could you imagine having stuff like your music
now back in the sixties, I think people will have
lost their mind.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, literally, people running at us and with like pitchforks and.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But like you know, they like to say that metal died.
I go to these festivals like Download and Hellfest and
all the DWP festivals here in the States, and I'm like, yeah, no,
I don't think so. It's bigger and better than ever.
It's because of bands like Metallica that created something new. Yeah,
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you know, you wouldn't have thought of playing music like
it is today in metal back then, because you know,
it just wouldn't have made sense in your head, even
though it did, you know, yeah, like even even take
I was just watching something recently and Henry Rowlins was
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talking about why he stopped doing music, and his thing
was like, basically, once I couldn't write songs anymore. I'm
not gonna just play and be like a legacy band
or my own tribute band. Like he's like, it's cool
if other bands do that, like they go and you know,
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they just play their you know, their hits. He's like,
that's just not me. I gotta play new music. So
that brings us right back around to what you guys
are feeling. You have new music, you want to play
that new music. That's what you want representing you, And
I gotta tell you it's freaking badass.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, we are really really proud with
Oh this is going down ready. It's like like we
really wanted a song to come out and just really
like just kind of like hit you in the face
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and with the first line of the song is I'm
coming out swinging. That's what we really wanted to do,
is just kind of be like, this is us, this
is our sound.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And what would you and what would you say as
the artist? Is the difference between your sound now and
the sound before.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I'd say, now we're a little bit more. We like
we just trying to think of a word for this. Actually,
it's kind of its kind of hard to like talk
about your own music and like write. Because we were new,
we just there was nothing tied to us, so we
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could really just throw out this is that, this is
our sound. It's that it's a real blend of heavy,
down tuned music with a nice strong modern take. There's
a lot of our influences. It's kind of all we
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do have a lot of old school influences. I'm a
big Lamb of God guy, so I'll try and get
in those really really twiddly fiddly stuff. Our other guitarist Jack,
who's really into his death metal. So it's the whole
song has like a blend of genres.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
See I love that about nowadays.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, because there's a certain melody in everyone is a
target which has that death metal take to it where
I'm like a real like metal quarter guy. Like my
five seven eight riffs. That's my kind of favorite thing
to play. We all just kind of blend it all
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into one kind of genre and that's kind of what
we kind of birth. Really nice. Yeah, it's it's uh,
it's good.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
I love that today though, because like you know, back
in the eighties, you know, you were either this or
you're that, and you couldn't like both you know type
of thing.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You know, that's why, like we always have when we
write music, is we write a verse that is so heavy,
and then we'll come into the chorus with something.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Like beautifully melodic, like I'm a bit a big kill
switch engage fan, me and Mitch, so we really lean
in on those melodic choruses. He'll write this gorgeous local
melody and I'll try and compliment that with a really
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nice kind of fiddley lead line over the chorus. And
we seem to me and Mitch have like a nice
like routine of we know the chorus is going to
be really good, Like the chorus will always like have
that real anthemic kind of sound that we want everyone
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to sing along to.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And that that, you know what, that is what makes
great music, even it it doesn't matter how heavy you are,
there has to be something that gets you, like where
it's stuck in your head. Yeah, and that that's the point,
and you know it the blending of genres. To me,
I love that today also because I find that a
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lot of bands, especially like in metalcore, use like this formula, right,
Like there's a formula for making metal music and you
go back to the days of Metallica's beginning in the
Big Four, they were thrash metal, but nobody set out
to be thrash metal, so they didn't really sound the same,
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you know. Like like but now it's like you have
these bands, if they're all on the same page, they
all sound the same, you know, Whereas if you bring
in other influences, that's what makes you stand out and
be unique and create the new music. You know, Like
you take a band like Slayer, two of the band
members were metal heads, two were punkers, and that's how
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you created the crossover scene before that, you know, Like
I loved punk. I couldn't go to punk shows. I
would have gotten my ass beat because I was a
long time.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
You know. Yeah, it's the same with fla metal now,
like you've got like the hardcore scene where I've gone
to some of those shows and I'm just like I'm
going to stand at the back because i feel safe
at the back. Yeah. It's yeah, Like we just love
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blending just all of these different genres that I've I
like to write write like a nice, dirty, mean breakdown
in the song. So I kind of when when we're
when we're writing, we'll all throw our ideas together, and
I'm just like, let's just try this a second, and
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we'll all look at each other and be like, yeah,
that's that's that's that's it.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
And that's where it should be too, because like, okay,
so I used to play guitar. I sucked, but uh,
you know in the beginning, my dad would you say
to me and hear me, He's like, oh, you should
give that up, you suck. And what it was really
just doing was I wasn't playing anything. I was just experimenting.
I wanted to see what sounds I could make. And
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I I think that's part of being an artist, is
like experimenting, because otherwise you're just regurgitating what everybody else
has already done. So you gotta try to do things differently. Again,
going back to the Sabbath model, would we have metal
today had Tony Iomi not had to change the way
he played because of his accident?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, like yeah, I think that
what never happened. One of the bands that do it
beautifully is Bring to the Horizon.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, there are my top five, by the way.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, yeah, I think if you're a modern musician now
and you're in a band, and you've just started. I
think everyone would probably say bring Me the Horizon and
of one of their main influences, Like every album they
just smash it. Just they're so smart at what they
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do and.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Well and I thought of them with your story because
basically they didn't rebrand, but they rebranded how they were
playing music and people got pissed off, and Allie said
in an interview, Yeah, Allie said the interview though, He's like,
why I want to play write the same song over
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and over again and like that that's so insightful of
what an art, how an artist would feel.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
M you know, like just every album they've released, it's
just it's something different, but it's incredible.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, I'd love to just go into the mind of
mind of that band and just how do you do this?
And don't fly on the wall in the studio. It's
like it's going to just take notice a second.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
And I consider myself lucky because I came in late
the game for Bring Me to Rise in Okay, so,
you know, because I do coverage at music festivals all
over the US, UK and Europe, and I remember they
were playing a festival one year. I think it was
like fifteen years ago. It was right when That's the
Spirit came out. Okay, So I had never heard their
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stuff before, weirdly enough, and because of that, I feel
like I love all their music and all their transformations.
Whereas if I had originally just been one of those
original Death Corps fans of Bring Me, I would prob
maybe I would think the same way as they do. Like,
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but you know, as an artist, you have to grow,
you have to change, you have to you know, as
you're getting better. You know, when you start off a
lot of times with a band when you're a teenager,
you don't really know what you're doing, and so you
learn the craft and you want to get better and
expand you don't want to stay a teenager learning how
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to play your instrument.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Mm yeah, yeah, I just make weird noises. If I'm honest,
I love it. There's really like dissonant notes and like
how can I make something sound really horrible and just
like unattractive?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
So yeah, yeah, we we do experiment quite a lot
with some weird, weird sounds and stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah. So you know, it's funny because that goes back
to what I was saying, what when my dad was
saying that I suck and all, but see me. To me,
that's part of the what I was talking about. Being
an artist. You want, you want to just do whatever
the fuck you want to see what you can come
up with, you know, And it's about what you like.
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It's about what you like. If you make the music
you like, you'll you'll get your people that like your music.
You know, if you try to fake it. You try
to fake it, you won't get anybody. You can't you
can't appease other people. A peach yourself, and then you'll
you'll gather your tribe for sure.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
So what's uh, what's next for twenty twenty six for
you guys?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
New music? Lots of new music. We're playing our first
show in April Noise Fest.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, I saw that. I have to check that out.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah. It's run by an incredible bunch of people. It's
just full of fantastic talent as well. So we are
really humbled to be beyond the bills considering we didn't
actually have a song out when they announced us for
the festival. We started dropping the teasers for the track
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when we were getting like announced for the festival. So
we're really hoping that when we play people would have
heard of the track and wanted to check us out,
like here some more.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Stuff of oils nice.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So yeah, it's it's exciting. We've got a few other
bits lined up.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
We need to get you that blood We need to
get your Bloodstock.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
To play blood Stock. Yes, I'd love to play blood Stock.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Your band would fit perfectly there too.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah, it's a strong line up this year. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's it's We've got a lot of stuff planned it.
It's pretty exciting. We've we've spent a whole of last
year planning for this year. So now everything is in
like right, all gears go go go, like so yeah,
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we've all well what what's great about us? As well?
We've all got our own areas of where that we
like to do in the band. So I'm off sorting
out like potential merchandise and stuff like that, making sure
everything's like up to date. So everything is coming and
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with the reception we've had on this first single, it's
really like made all of us really like okay, yeah,
let's do this now, like let's really put everything into
we do.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I love it. Tell everybody how they can reach out
to you guys on socials check out new music and
speaking of merch, how they can buy your merch because
they can't listen to my show and let's say buy
your merch.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Oh yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, So we are on
all streaming platforms, so like Apple Music, Spotify, Amazon, it's
just blessed your Dead again with all the socials, it's
blessed your Dead on Instagram, face Book, TikTok because yep,
we're cool. We do TikTok.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Do you have an embarrassing TikTok one that you're embarrassed about?
People do? So you do if you don't.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Mitch did make an incredible TikTok on his personal account
of him buttering his crumpet, and I think that sparked
a few weird ideas for him to implement on the
band TikTok.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well, there you go. That's what everybody's got to follow
you on TikTok that to look forward.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm sure we'll do a funny dance video at some point.
So everyone loves those, right right, Yeah, we've are. Yeah,
we've got some really exciting stuff coming up. Yeah, we
like the next couple of songs really like if you
liked this one, you'll love the the next, the next couple.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Of tracks nice, well, yeah, I bet I will then
because I did love this one and I think everybody
else will too. Do you have any final words you
want and say the people that we haven't covered already?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
If you do love the track, like, share it like,
send it to your friends, post it online, just let
us know that you like it, because with the messages
we have been getting in the comments on the posts,
we do appreciate every word that has been said. Because
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we've put so much passion and love into this. It's
nice to see like the hard work we have put in.
It's kind of being paid off for the love we've
been getting on the track.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Love it well. I hope to see a lot more
love for you in the future. And thanks for being
on the adventure as a pipe man.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Thank you very much for this. It's been great. Thank
you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on w
for c u I Radio.