May 14, 2026 • 49 mins
Pipeman Radio has an interview with the band Anberlin and Taken by Tides about them performing at Danny Wimmer Presents Welcome to Rockville 2026 at the Daytona International Speedway and what else is happening for the rest of 2026.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you have done to censure? Wow for you.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Young where runn?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Can you feel so good? This is the pipe Man
here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio.
And this is my last interview before I get on
the road. And I have to drive three hours over
to the west coast of Florida for an Alice Cooper show,
and then drive three hours back and then tomorrow morning
(00:48):
three and a half hours up to Daytona four one
of my favorite festivals of the whole year. Welcome to Rockville,
and I have with us our guest who it's close.
My real name is Dean, and he's Dion. Sometimes people
call me that too, because I don't know it's an a.
It shouldn't be Deon.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah, you and me both I you know, at Starbucks
or whatever all the time. You know, it's I get,
I get, I get. I go from Dion to Dean
for a whole lot of times, so I must. And
I'm glad to hear it's a two way street and
it doesn't just happen to me.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, see, like maybe we're doppel Gigger's or something.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, there go look alike.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
But yeah, your band's bad ass. Amberlin and you're gonna
be Welcome to Rockville, which is even more badass. Have
you played Welcome to Rockville before? I know you've played
the other Danny Wimmer festivals, but have you played this one.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
We have not, which is funny just because you know,
we are a Florida band. We're just directly west across
the coast, you know, on the Gulf and in the
Tampa Bay area, so it's it's funny that we have
not played Rockville yet. So we're pretty excited to, you know,
make our debut this year.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I think the most exciting thing is is I don't
even know if you notice yet, but you're gonna be
able to drive on the speedway to get to uh
wherever you got to go.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, that'll be fun. I've actually done that before. I
grew up, going to Turkey Rod run over in daytime.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Next.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
My family was big into the hot rods, so I
was I've been able to get out there on the
speedway and they because they do this photo op at
the speedway where you can take your picture on like
not on one of the banks obviously because like a
forty five degree angle, but you know, like one of
going into one of the turns. It says Daytona, USA
on the on the wall, so they let you park
your car in front of that and take a picture
(02:39):
and everything. So it's pretty fun experience. I mean, it's
a it's an impressive, uh track. I mean, and the
history behind it and everything, you know, obviously is really cool.
So you know, growing up, growing up, just you know,
with all this stuff car related and watching NASCAR and
things like that, it's it's always cool to make the
trip over there. So it's even double cool that we
(03:01):
get to play there this year.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, you know, it's funny too because I do all
the Danny Wimmer festivals. I do festivals all over the US,
UK and Europe, and I got excited this year because
I'm actually going to be interviewing the NASCAR driver, Like
so that's new. That's different. You know. It's like it's
like my youngest story. She'll ask me a lot before festivals,
(03:26):
like are you excited, And I'm like, well, I don't
know if excited it's the word. I love doing it,
but when you do it every weekend, I don't know
if exciting is the appropriate word. But then there's moments
like that that, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I mean that'll be different, you know for sure if
you're used to I'm sure you know, if you're used
to interviewing musicians and then going from that to uh,
you know, the world of racing, which we we got it.
We got to uh hang out with a few guys
that were affiliated with NASCAR last year on tour when
we were up and Charlotte, since right down the road
(03:58):
is like the home of NASCAR, you know, and so
one of our crew guys has a he's got a
friend that he's the guy that basically he paints all
the driver's helmets. So he took us out to this
like competitive go kart track and we were racing with
a few of the uh next tail or not next
tell what is it? Next tells they've been the funk
(04:19):
for years. Anyways, we're you know, we were racing with
a few of the uh you know, kind of like
drivers from like the couple of steps you know below
uh you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Know, uh the main drivers but next uh stuffing like that.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
There was there's a couple of I don't know, I
don't know the.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, I'm not I obviously don't keep up with it anymore.
But yeah, uh, we uh, you know, we got to
drive with a few of the drivers, which was really
fun with this go kart track, and then and then
Dale Junior came out to say hi, which was crazy.
I mean, you know, I grew up watching Dale Earnhardt
senior race and was watching the race win he you know,
(05:00):
had his unfortunate accident, and of course you know watching
Dale Junior drive as well was you know, a part
of growing up. So it was really cool to meet
him and you know, got to take a picture with
him and stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So it was really cool.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
But it's really just interesting getting a little insight into
that world there because I mean it's all it's not
like you know, the NFL or whatever where you know,
all the teams are spread across the US, you know,
right NASCAR, you you basically are in that area. So
it's like when they say it's the home of NASCAR,
that's because that's where like every team is just you know,
most of the drivers live there. So just a weird
(05:37):
world to get some insight into. So that was really fun.
I'm always interested because you know, having dialogue with people
that you know, they asked a lot of questions about
you know, what it's like being in a touring band
and things like that, and then I get I get
just as excited, like ask him about like, well, what's it.
What's it like with like, you know, working on the
you know, the NASCAR circuit. You know, it's you know,
(05:59):
because you got all these different levels. You know, people
start on like competitive go carts, and they'll go up
to like the sprint cars and like you know, then
they're driving the trucks and then it's just it's just
such an interesting world to me. So it's it's cool
to Yeah, it's cool to meet people in different fields
like that that are doing really you know, interesting things.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You know. What I think is really cool too, is okay.
So hearing you say all those things, what came to
mind immediately is like, wow, that's pretty cool. A musician
fanboying out on NASCAR driver like it. It just makes
you like a normal person. Like people look at musicians
like like they're not normal people sometimes like we're only
(06:43):
going to be into music, right, you know, and like
you don't get like oh my god to somebody or whatever,
you know, and it just shows you're just like they are.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, I mean I think you know, it's uh everybody's
got their interest and you know, I and like I said,
even if I wasn't to Nascar, I would still be
enamored by the whole thing, right Just I you know,
I always like hearing like what it's like in different
industries or whatever, you know, like talk, you know, talking,
you know, when we've had shot music videos in the
(07:15):
past and we've had to hire actors, you know what,
one of our music videos years ago, we had a
couple of people that, you know, they were younger actors
that were trying to break in, you know, so they
were affordable for us. They you know, they weren't celebrities yet.
But it was just really interesting talking to them about,
you know, the world of acting as they're they're you know,
filming a music video for us. So it's yeah, like
(07:38):
I said, it's just cool meeting people in other fields
and like hearing what it takes to you know, be
competitive and make it in those in those other fields,
you know, because I mean I've been playing in bands
since I was fourteen years old, and you know, it's
just that's like just what I know, and so it's
it's super normal to me, but it may not seem
normal to somebody else and vice versa. But what's the
(08:00):
normal to them is like really intriguing to me, you know. Yeah,
So it's you know, and I'm just I'm a talker.
I like just talking to people and getting to know
them and everything. So it's it's always fun when it's
something you're actually interested in, you know, and you get
to hear some like you know, inside scoop on things
and whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, and it's like at that daytime speedway, it is
a trip because first year we were over there from Jacksonville,
I was looking at the wall and I'm like, it
does not look like that on TV. That wall looked scary,
okay in a person. In person, it's like, holy shit,
I couldn't even stand on that wall much. Let's drive it.
(08:38):
And then I joked around with Christine, who runs media
at Rockville, and I, you know, because I live in
South Florida and West bum Beach area. So I drove
my jeep up and I had my skateboard in the
jeep and I'm like hey, and I was just kidding,
but I was like, hey, do you think I'd lose
my media credential if I took my skateboard on the wall,
(09:00):
and it's like I was saying something my son like, yeah,
I wouldn't have done it till after the festival's over
because I can't break all my bones before doing interviews. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
We actually instituted a no skateboarding rule on one tour
because you know, if you the guys brought their skateboards
and like one of our crew guys almost dislocated his elbow,
you know, our guitarist Christian almost like twisted an ankle,
and I, your tour manager, was like.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's it. No more skateboards the rest of the tour.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's great. See I love stories like that. And speaking
of stories, okay, so let's go back to when you
were fourteen, because it's also interesting to me because my
grandson who's going to becoming a Rockville he just turned fifteen.
He is a musician and he's following my footsteps. Like
it's so funny. One day was a kid, next day
(09:54):
it's like, what do you want for your birthday? Oh,
I want a guitar. Okay, let's go and I want
the guitar. And then next time I see him, he's
got a battle vest on. I'm like, holy crap, he's
not my kid's kid. He's my kid, you know. And
but I asked him recently, I'm like, because he was
trying to start a band and I'm like, so, how's
(10:15):
it going with that? And he's like, I've been really
found to write people, like he's struggling to find the
people to have a band with. So tell us about
your story going way back when how that happened.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's I was.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Fortunate my brother, my older brother, he when we were young,
we started my dad had a drum set.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
My dad was a drummer.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
And for an end of year minor league baseball party
one year, a couple of the dads got together and
there's one that played guitar and sang one that played bass,
and they knew my dad played drums. And my dad
was like, oh, I'll just go pick up a secondhand
drum kit, you know, and for the party, you know,
like at a pawnshop or something. He actually he ended
(10:59):
up which I don't know, I don't know what he
paid for it. You know, it was only like twelve
but uh, he he ended up getting this gold Slingerland jazz.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Kit that was, you know, just beautiful. It was.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
It's like it wasn't he didn't just buy some cheap
drum set. He founded, you know, a drum set for
like a decent price. I'm you know, I'm sure my
mom wasn't happy about it, but uh but you know
he so we from that point on after he after
they did the end of the year party, we had
a drum set in the house.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So my brother and I would fight over who could
play it.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And and eventually I got sick of him and pushing
me off because I was the young I was the
little brother. So I decided I wanted to try and
play guitar or something. Well, a kid down the street
already played guitar, so we decided we were going to
start a band. I needed to play bass, so I, uh,
you know, I had some money saved up from mowing
lawns and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Around the neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
And I went and bought for like one hundred and
twenty bucks, bought out this cheap cruise bass and create
one ten little practice lamp, and you know, started taking
lessons and things like that, and and then you know,
the kid turned out, the kid down the street that
was a guitarist, he lost interest in music really quick.
(12:14):
He wanted to play at golf and baseball, you know.
So around that time, we're you know, we're in high
school and uh, you know, about about fourteen years old,
and my brother meets this guy, uh named DJ at
a summer school, you know, and they start, you know,
they find out that they have the same interest in
music and they like a lot of the same bands.
(12:37):
So uh, you know, turn it turns out DJ's guitarists
and sing a little bit. So we just got together,
my and my in one of our bedrooms one day
and you know, started trying to write some songs and
that became my first band. Played my first show when
I was like fourteen or fifteen, shortly after that, and
(12:57):
it seemed like a massive show to me at the time.
It we I mean we I think we advertised for
like months for it, you know, around around our schools
and everything, and but there was maybe fifty people there.
I'm sure, but you know, it's for kids.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
First show.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It just seemed it seemed that like the place was slammed,
you know, and it was really cool, and I was
just hooked after that. I just wanted to keep these shows,
That's all I wanted, you know, So, uh, you know,
just fast forward a few years later, you kind of
cycle went out with different musicians, you know that you
find here and there, and you know, some guys can
stick with it, some guys.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Can't, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
And I.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Finally ended up playing with Joey, who's our guitarist and
Amber Wind. He and I met at a comic shop
one day one of our ur We had a mutual
friend that ended up ditching us to go do drugs.
So Joey j always like, hey, man, I went nearby.
You want to run to my house real quick?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I'm like sure. We walk into his Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
We walk into his bedroom and he's not only got
you know, he's got like all was punk rock and
metal vinyl, you know, by sitting by his record player
and he's got an epiphone, West Paul sitting by his band.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I'm like, you play guitar? He's like yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
He was like, do you know when you know effect songs?
You know, like the first band of the Product of Mind.
He like, he immediately started playing. I think it was
like sticking in my eye or something like that, you know,
and just just crazy. You know, well, not a lot
of kids when you know, at fifteen, sixteen years old,
not a lot of kids could you know, pull off
no effects songs are let alone play the lead, you know,
playing lf Haf's leads. So so it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We bonded really quickly.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
And at that time, I was already kind of I
was playing in a couple of bands, just with different people,
and I was just starting to play in a band
with a friend of mine named.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Stephen, who later on became the singer of Amberwin.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
So it's just kind of a it took years, I think,
you know, a couple of years to find the right people,
and you know, I was just fortunate that in my small.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Town and Winter him and there were like minded.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Musicians who were into the same type of music, and
you know, and we were able to start a band
in high school.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And then you know, through playing.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Over the years and like Lake Wind and Tampa and
Saint Pete, we met who are now drummer Nate, you know,
by playing with his band that he was in at
the time with his brother. So yeah, it's just a
weird journey, I would I was talking to some good
friends of mine that live in Kansas City and they
had they have they have a fifteen year old son
(15:28):
named River who he's been playing drums for a few
years now, and he's at the point where he really
wants to start a band. You know, he wants to
be the next Taylor Hawkins. He's he idolizes Taylor Hawkins
and the food Fighters, you know, and he uh, he's
he's having the same issue. You know, he's just not
finding those that the right group of kids that share
(15:49):
his you know, his interest in the same type of music,
or they even want to you know that play instruments
or want to be in a band. So, you know,
I was just trying to I was just trying to
encourage you, my stun to talk to him about it.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's like you say, just give a time, keep practicing.
You're gonna find the right guys. You know.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's my viewpoint is is like I'm gonna have my
grandson listen to this, because all of that led to
us having this talk about Welcome to Rockville.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So, you know, let's you are. Every band goes through it.
You go through people you want to play with, you
don't want to play with, people, leave people do things,
you know, but I do have a based on what
happened with you. I have a trivia question for you,
all right, who is one of the greatest bassist ever
(16:35):
that never wanted to be a bassist, was a guitar
player and basically drew the short straw and had to
play bass.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Uh me, I'm just kidding. That's funny because that is
how I started playing bass. But I wouln't consider myself
the best bass player.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
That's why I asked the question. Because of that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Ah geez, I don't think I know that one.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I mean, I can think I could think of a
lot of people I would consider to be, you know,
great bass players, like you know, obviously Geddy Wee from
Rush is one of the greatest of all time. But
I think he was always a bass player.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, uh, I don't know. You got me, stump. Who
is it?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Paul McCartney.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh, that makes sense because all three.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Of them played guitar. And now if you listen to
the Beatles songs, you hear his bass because I always
loved the Beatles, but I never really heard till I
knew that the influence because he plays it like a guitar.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah he he you know, yeah, it's the way he
structures his way, he structures his bass lines.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Or yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I mean it makes sense really think about it. So
that's that's interesting. I mean, I guess that should have
been kind of obvious, you know, it's since he you know,
obviously he's well versed in guitar.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Right, But yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
You know, it is funny, I think because I am
a bit of a I feel like an anomaly in
the sense that I literally only know how to play bass.
I know a little bit of guitar I've picked up
over the years, you know, playing like some mi bar
chords and open chords and things like that, you know,
but I started on the bass. I took lessons for
the bass, I you know, because there's so many bands
(18:13):
that the bass player is a guitarist. They just there's
just nobody in town that played bass. So somebody went, okay,
I'll play.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Bass, you know, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I think a lot of times when I do meet
people that are purely bass players and that's the instrument
that they started. Like Nick from Bayside is a guy
like that. He and I share a lot in common
in that respect. We're both just bass players.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That's what we are. It's what we do.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
There it is and then you're needed. People don't realize
how much of a difference having bass in a song means,
you know.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, I mean I think I have a friend who's
a ripping guitar player. He's a really good blues player
named Chris Walker. And it's funny. He got asked to
fill in on a bass for some band that was
kind of doing like a little like there was like
this blues band and they were doing like a reunion,
but their bass player wasn't around anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So they asked Chris.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
If he could fill in on bass, and he's like, I
guess so, And he calls me up and ask if
he could borrow.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
A bass, and so I lent him.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I lent him a Mustang bass to play, and after
the gig he was like, man that He's like, I
almost wanted to start playing bass from here on now.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
He's like that was so much fun.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I was like, I was like, I know, I was
like I enjoy it, you know, And that may not
be the most glamorous of instruments, but uh, it's you know,
it's it's like you said, it's very much needed and
you know, you can have a lot of fun playing bass.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You really can't. And then and I have for many years.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
There you go, Now, what else do you guys got
going on after Rockville that people need to look out for?
Tell people I also connecting with you socials on the
web and all that.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Oh man, we're about to get busy. We Uh So
we played Rockville on the seventh, and then we come
home for just a few days and on the thirteenth
we head out to start four and a half week
headline tour. Where we are we're kind of doing a
celebration tour of our second album, Never Take Friendship Personal.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
We did the first leg last year.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
We're doing a second leg this year of a lot
of the cities, you know, the areas that we didn't
get to hit last year. So yeah, we're gonna be
We get a couple of days to rest between the two,
you know, the two things. But we we hit the
road literally on the thirteenth, drive up, starting the tour
in dustin, Florida, and then we just take it from there.
So we're really excited to get back out on tour
(20:36):
and uh, you know, rock out some fans and hang
out and say hi.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
To everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Nice. Well, I'll have to tell my daughter, who's going
to be at Rockville to go to your set because
she lives near Dustin. Oh nice, and maybe she'll show
up to your show because I don't even know if
she she knows you your band yet. You know, I'm
sure she probably does, but maybe who knows? Uh, So
I'm gonna tell her. Yet, you gotta go to You
(21:03):
gotta go to the set and check it out, so
maybe you want to go near you. And you know,
it's funny you mentioned about no effects because when I
took my grandson to play and buy that guitar, I
didn't know he knew how to play array and he
wrote guitar senter and pulled the guitar down and started
playing Green Day. I'm like, holy shit, how do you
know how to do that? You know? So there it is.
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You know, I love it, and I love that You're
gonna be at Rockville. It's going to be badass, And
thank you for being on the Adventures of Payment.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Absolutely, thank you for having me, and maybe we'll run
each other on run into each other on Thursday or something.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
There you go. Yeah, and if you're in the media area,
just come say hi or you know, if I see you, we.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Actually will be so try and keep an eye out
for you. We do know we have a couple of
on side interviews in the afternoon after we play. So yeah,
maybe we maybe we'll run into each other.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
All right, sounds good. Let's make it a point and
anything you need, all.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Right, Thanks for having me, man, you got it.
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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm very excited
because the Pipe Man Radio Tour is starting again today.
We've been off for about a month. I got a
little seclusion and from the world for a month and
now we're ready to rock and roll again. And our
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second stop, like tonight, we're going I'm going to Alice
Cooper on the other side of the state. But then
tomorrow is Welcome to Rockville, one of my favorite Danny
Wimmer festivals. And this will be the first interview of
the forda festival for a band that is playing tomorrow
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and man they are killers. So let's welcome to the show.
Omar from Taking By Times. How are you?
Speaker 6 (24:55):
What's up doing great? You know we're out here driving
currently on the way to Florida.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Just it's about an eighteen hour drive twenty with stops,
you know, speed limit like with an RB you can't
drive seventy five. We gotta do a like sixty five.
So you know, we're we've been driving. It'll be a
total like two days like driving and taking our time.
You know, we're not trying to you know, drive sleep deprived,
you know, trying to take our time.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, no doubt. And listen. Unlucky for you that the
two states you gotta go in are like the two
hardest states to drive through.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
It's like once you get outside of Texas, those little states,
you're like, oh, that's easy. That's why I like about
that road trip. Once you get out of like Texas,
then it's like, oh, it's only a few hours to
get out of state. That's cool, you know. And yeah, yeah,
and Texas is brutal to drive through too because there's
so many different geographics. Florida is a little different. It
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looks exactly the same. It's flat the whole thing. But
I remember the stupidest thing I ever did was I
was driving to get to La through Texas and I
I should have stopped at El Paso. It was getting
dark and I was over driving through Texas, so I'm like,
fuck it, I'm gonna keep going. And I drove from
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that in the dark, from El Paso to San Antonio.
That is like one of the most brutal drives. I
couldn't even imagine doing an RV, by the way, because
I was doing it in a car, and like those
crosswinds were brutal. Like I remember my car like moved
over like a lane and I'm like, oh my god,
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I'm gonna go off the cliff because the wind was
so strong. I couldn't even imagine driving RV under those conditions.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Yeah, you gotta, you gotta drive, I believe it. It's slower,
Like when we're trying back to Chicago there was like
a high wind morning. It's just gotta be like careful.
You don't really try to pass anyone, and you try
to keep on space. Yeah, it is, it is. It
can be scary. I think our scariest drive lately was
we said a tour in March and we were driving,
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I believe, from Phoenix to San Diego and there's a
lot of oh yeah, up and down and on an RV,
you know, they're going up your transmission. It's just you know,
it's pushing and super loud and you're going like barely
fifty you know, but yeah, it was kind of wild.
You'd see like down the side of the window and
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it's like steep steep cliff right.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And I love talking about this because I think the
listeners don't really get all you have to go through
as a band just to get to a gig like
this drive we're talking about. Your taket is for one
gig so far, you know, it doesn't count the rest
of your tour. That's just one stop on the tour,
like and I don't think people even imagine, like, and
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then you go perform and some times you may not
have had rest, like you got there just in time,
whatever the reason, traffic, weather, and then you're loading in
and playing and I think people in the audience like
they can't even gef of that, you.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Know, yeah, they don't see it.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Sometimes you're on stage and you might have just barely
had a chance to like take a breath.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Right, maybe you've got to the venulate and you're loading
in all day and you're pushing cases and you're barely
have time to get ready. You're probably sweaty, you know,
you're not warmed up. I've had those shows sometimes who
are like I have to walk on stage without warming up.
I feel not ready, but it's like it's rocking road.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You got to get up there and do it, you know,
But then you get in the zone once you're on
stage and it's time to perform, Like you get in
the zone and then it's almost like I know the
way I am. I don't even give my self permission
to feel like shit until.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Absolutely not until after.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
You know, then I can die, okay, But you get
it it so like you don't even notice, and you're
like it's almost like an add of body experience, right, yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, when you're on stage, like everything
just goes blank, like I don't know, It's like you
go into this second I don't know a state of
mine or something, and I just I hardly remember what
goes on on stage. I feel like something else takes
over and I just black out most of the time,
you know. I try to come back and realize what's
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going on, but usually you black out, and like those
thirty forty minutes feel like five ten.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Sometimes it feel longer.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
If the show's like, you know, dragging those shows, you're like, God,
let it end already, Like if you're not having a
good show, like if my voice is gone, like oh god,
I'm out here sucking, you know, but you know I don't.
I'll never show it, you know, I'm never exist stage.
I'll just I'll just try my best delivery.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's just even like like people think that musicians are
like the biggest extroverts because they get up on stage
and do that. It's like the exact opposite, and you
kind of do black out in the sense of, you know,
it's easier to like pretend like you're just up there
by yourself.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
It's easier to get lost, especially when you have like
the music going on. It's it's easier to feel at home.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, exactly. So tell me, Okay, you're gonna be at
Welcome to Rockville, obviously, but tell me about the Back
to Hell tour. I love the name of that tour.
I think we're living that in real life right now.
I think everybody in the world is on the Back
to Hell tour.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Yeah, then we all are, especially with the weather and
well it hasn't been too bad lay but it's about
to get hot again.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Yeah, back to Hell tor.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
I mean, it's just named after one of our songs
that came out on our last album back in October,
what's it called.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
We had a two legs of it.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
We had originally just the you know, the run on
February and March, and then we got the offer to
do Welcome to Rockville, and it was very close to
that tour, but just far enough where it's like it's
got to be a different lineup anyways.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
But we were like, okay, well, let's just make it
the leg two of uh, you know, the Back to
Hell tour.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
I like the art, I like the you know behind
the song, you know, I like the song a lot,
So we just saturday make it the leg two and yeah,
it's been great shows. It's actually been our biggest shows
we've ever played. All the shows have.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Been very successful, and you know, every.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
All the bands have been taking care of all the
locals that are playing the shows were stoked on you know,
the draws.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
All the venues have been stoked in the draws, you know,
a lot of it. It was a surprise, you know.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
We played some these venues before, and some of these
shows for the longest time, we've played to like less
than twenty people, and it's like, I don't know if
fans know that, but it's like if a venue gets
twenty people, it's like you probably might not even break even.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
You're probably losing money on that show.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
No, especially for small upcoming venues, it's like they want
to support up and becoming artists, and it's like, you know,
for them to give us a shot, some of them
multiple times to where it finally clicks, it's like we're
grateful they give us a shot, but yeah, this time
finally around. Like all the shows have been great and
really no complaints. Has probably been the best tour I've
ever done. And then to do it look too of it.
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You know, I just felt right there you go.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
And you know, it's funny with your debut album, Ghost Vibrations,
I think it would be perfect if you were playing
Incarceration another Danny Wimmer festival because I don't know if
you know where what the venue is, but it's the
Shawshank Prison, but it's a real prison that's shut down
and it is haunted it and they do, like at
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the festival, they do the haunted tours, but you don't
know when you're going on this tour whether it's one
of the people working being a character trying to scare you,
or if it is a real like, oh my god,
I remember I was interviewing somebody there, okay, and he
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was talking about the uh he filmed the video and
there was a torture room in that prison and he
came out with scratches all over his body.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Shot.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Oh my god. So like, what perfect place that would
be a perfect place to film the video for one
of your songs on Ghost Vibrations.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Yeah, right, absolute.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
So tell take me back a little bit. What was
that first moment in your life that you kind of
realized that this is what you wanted to do, that
this was your passion.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
And I've had multiple ones of those, for sure, Like
I could probably name a couple of handful of them,
but I think the first one, Man, that's hard. I
think you know, when I was a kid, I just
really liked playing guitar hero and I was probably like,
you know, six years old, and then by the time
I was ten, I picked up a guitar. And I
think just watching like my chem of a romance and
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like Lincoln Park, you know, which Mike Kem's actually playing
rock Feld.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
You know, I wish I could be there Sunday, but
you know, we gotta go play other shows.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I'll be I'll be in the pit for you right on.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Thank you, so just to be end of the same
umbrellas and it's as you know, it's a really big honor.
But anyways, Yeah, there's been mostile moments in life where
I think I really wanted this. It's probably the first
one was like picking up guitar, like a ten eleven
years old. My grandpa was a musician. He was also
a singer guitarist, and uh, what's it called. I think
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summer in my childhood just kind of click, you know.
I picked it up pretty fast. I was in band
and when I was in middle school, I only lost
it one semester, but I ended up being like first
chair playing French Word and I just didn't I wasn't
into it. I got a guitar that Christmas I got
out and then they were like, can you please join
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the band back? Like you're really good, I promise you're
really talented, Like you're great at this, you should be
in band, and like no, I'm gonna play guitar, and
like I just I just kind of knew at like
eleven years old that this is what I wanted. So like,
even like the band directors, no, you should play French
really talented, I'm like, I get it, but I want
to play guitar.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So and then you know what I love about that
story is Okay, So I'm a metal head all my
life and I like people. A lot of people at
my age troop I would talk to and they're like, well,
I used to like metal And my answer to them
is no, you didn't, cause nobody that is truly a
metal head says I used to. Like now, it's not
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like other genres like once a metal head, always a
metal head, no matter when it started. And that's the
same example with you. And I also love about Guitar
Hero because I'm a gamer, and you know, when I
was trying to play guitar, there was no Guitar Hero
because video games weren't that good then, And I think
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that would have helped me be better at guitar, like
and make it more fun because you know, I was
learning guitar, I had to do scales every single lesson
and I'm like, this is boring, you know, So if
I was playing like a video game, then it would
have excited me more. So I think that's a that's
a cool thing. Like some people may give crap about
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oh Guitar Hero, but I think it does teach you
really before you even pick up the guitar, and you're
a proof of that.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I mean my right hand got really solid because you know,
I just learned rhythm and like I just took that,
you know, the left hand, yeah, you know, you're just here,
but like your fingers get fast and you get the
kind of conditioned too, But like your right hand is
really where it helps because you know, you just stay
in rhythm. And so yeah, it's crazy how playing lots
of Guitar Hero as a kid really just easily translated
to the guitar.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, exactly. Now I have a question because it's hard
for me to tell on the screen, but is that
necklace your logo?
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Yes, it is I.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Thought it was, but I couldn't see the details that far,
but I was pretty sure it was. As that is
freaking cool. Now do you sell that as birch?
Speaker 6 (37:32):
No, we don't, but we we should figure it out.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
We have key chains, that's like, I saw the key chains.
They're cool as hell.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Yeah, thank you, but I gotta figure this out.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
I just don't know what kind of you know, necklace
that one, you know, but I we definitely gotta get
it sorted.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
I think the next you know, big headliners where we do,
we definitely have these out on the road.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
There you go, that would be cool. You could even
just do the charm and then if you find the
cool neck because it is like it's a cool logo,
but it does make a cool necklace. Like I'm looking
at you wearing a necklace, and I'm like, I would
wear that, you know, it'd be kind of like a
Misfits thing. I wouldn't even care what your band sounded like.
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I just want to wear the logo.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Thank you man.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Yeah, yeah, I'm really proud of it. I think it's great.
It's like a hero symbol or something, you know.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, totally totally. Yeah, it makes you look like a superhero. Right, yeah,
all right, So what one story crazy, good or bad?
In all the years you've been doing music and doing
shows and stuff, what sticks out in your mind the
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most that you would talk about like years down the road,
like any story, Yeah, like anything that's happened in the
musical journey of the band.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
You know, there's there's been multiple Uh.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
There was like this one time where we flew out
our producer to San Antonio because we weren't done with
our with the songs you're trying. So we were in Lousll, Kentucky,
and then we flew him to San Antonio for like
two days because he had a gig in Austin, Texas.
He was like working sound some gig and he's not
far so we picked him up from Austin about an
(39:28):
hour drive. Uh, stay with us a couple of days.
We just moved his flight from San Antonio to you know,
maybe it was just worked. Anyways, we finished, we wrapped
up tracking everything, and.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
At night we were about to head out because Jack.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Mhm, yeah, yeah, yeah, you are breaking up.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
All right, Okay, yeah mhmm, you guys.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Check still breaking up a little bit. I can hear
partially and my engineer will edit this part out, so
don't worry. Sorry, Okay, go.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
See right on.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
So yeah, this one time we were tracking some songs
for a couple of singles back in like I think
twenty and uh we were over in Louisville, Kentucky and
flower producer out to set because we already had our
flights going back home, but he had a gig in Austin,
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so it kind of worked out in our favor.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
So anyways, we.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
Picked him up from Austin once he finished this gig.
He came for a couple of days and we finished
tracking the songs that we needed to finish. And uh
so my bassis, Jack and I were actually are from
the Little Rato, Texas, which about two hours and a
half south of San Antonio. We finished the Antonio like
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an eleven pm.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
He saw me there.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Your coache. Hello, Yeah, I can hear you now you
were kind yeah heard heard.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
So yeah, anyways, we finished the studio session like around
eleven pm where we're at Jaden's house and like I said,
Jack and I we have to drive two hours and
a half. Right up outside we're sitting, we're si and
then we car drive by like the house. They're driving
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kind of slow. It's like four dudes in the car,
and it just kind of feels weird. And and literally
they turn around, circle back, and like instantly they start speeting,
and like twelve shots get fired and we obviously fight
or flight mound. We just we just run back into
the house instantly or like and our producers still inside
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of the house and he's like, what's the guys you're
back inside.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
I was like, did you not hear that? And he's like, no,
what happened?
Speaker 7 (43:04):
Like, dude, there's like gunshots that could get get down,
Like what the heck, you know, And and he just
ended up staying inside the house and we ended up
going home that night.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
So that was like one of the scarier stories.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you brought up because bands go
through scary crap like that and you don't even realize
that what can happen no matter what on the road
or what have you. And you know, like, uh, I know,
there's been band members that have been mugged, attacked or
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carjacked all that, and these are the things that you
guys go through to give us some great music.
Speaker 7 (43:48):
What's insane? Speaking of carjacking, we have a music video
for Go Sebrations. I'm like driving a car in the video.
So that car we actually ended up borrowing. We were
supposed to use Jaden's at the time because he had
like a he had like a Dodge, like a Challenger
or a Chargers and that he was like a skatpack Dodge,
really nice car. Literally, I think the day before the
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videos shoot where we were gonna take the car out,
it got stolen.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Off this front like driveway.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
They just took it.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
Like his Mom's like, hey, Jadeen, I thought you left
the store or something, and he's like, no, I'm right
here by.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
What's up. He's like I heard your cards or nothing.
I thought you left. He's like no, and they go
outside and they just see a windshield on the floor.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
There's no crap.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
This is like the day before we were supposed to
film the music videos. You're like, well, we have no
car for the video.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Yeah, So speaking of carjacking, that's also happened.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
It is amazing, Like I love hearing stuff like this
because I like when the audience finds out what it's
really like behind the scenes, because they look at musicians
and they think, oh, you got the dream li and
in some ways you do, you know, but there's it's
like every person. Every person has their trials and tribulations,
and musicians are no different. And to me, musicians are
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the hardest working people there is. So if they want
to listen to my show, they need to go to
your merch store and buy some merch.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
Oh, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
So tell everybody how they can check you guys out
on socials on the web and check out all your merch.
Speaker 7 (45:32):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean you can find us mostly on socials,
on Instagram and TikTok that's usually most active, and streaming stream.
Speaker 6 (45:39):
Us anywhere they stream.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
You know, our security puts us on most platforms as possible,
but obviously you know the big big ones. You can
find us in Spotify, Apple Music, and yeah, just to
keep up with us, we always got stuff. And then
our merch store you can go to takemtidespan dot com.
That's where we have any exclusive drops or any leftover
tour merch that we didn't sell on tour, So in
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case you missed something or miss the show, you can always.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
Grab it there too.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Nice and you know it's funny you mentioned Apple Music,
and I normally like, before I do interviews, I'll just
while I'm like getting ready, I'll just go to Apple
Music and turn on the band's music to kind of
get in the zone. And Apple Music has a new
update now. I don't even know if you know. I
just saw it for the first time today and it
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told me all your tour dates, including welcome to Rockville.
Speaker 7 (46:31):
Dude, that's awesome. I've not updated my phone in like
a year, so because I don't trust it.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I don't blame It's cool, man.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Yeah, I was like, that's really cool for bands because
like you go on there and you go to your
page and looks similar to normal, but then there's a
place at the top to click on for the tour dates.
Speaker 6 (46:53):
So that's so cool.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
I got to give kudos to Apple for doing that
for you guys.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
Yeah, you know, Apple's really great.
Speaker 7 (46:59):
They they pay better than most other streaming platforms, and
the quality on there is like some of the best,
you know.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
So I'm so glad to hear that they pay you
guys better. Because I don't use Spotify, like I'll use
it for certain things like when I do the festivals,
I create playlist of all the interviews on Spotify, but
not for the music for the podcast. But I hate
that they don't pay you guys. So the fact that
Apple pays you better, kudos to them, because even in
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my industry now with streaming and everything else, there's so
many of my competitors that like, don't get licensed, don't
pay royalties, And I'll say shit to them, because I'm licensed.
I pay a lot of money to be licensed. Pay
royalties because you guys deserve to get paid. And I'll
ask them like about them, like you know, and they'll say, well,
they should just want me to play their music, Like, no,
(47:55):
do you work for free?
Speaker 5 (47:57):
You know?
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Of course, yeah, you do want them to play your music.
But you know you're doing this for a living, so
you need to be able to eat. I'm not talking
about buying a ferrari. We're talking about this.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
You're you're not making a lot of money in this business.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
You're exactly unless you're the top one percent, then you
know you're probably making a good living. But even like
the bands that are massive selling a thousand tickets to night,
they're still just living.
Speaker 6 (48:24):
You know, you're probably better having off on normal nine
to five.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
In terms of money no doubt, no doubt so. And
that's why musicians have passion for what they do because
you're not doing it for the money. You're certainly not
doing to become a rock star, because that doesn't even
exist anymore. You know, you're doing it because you have
a passion for music, and music is the best surfy.
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So I do thank you for making that, you know,
and making music and making that sacrifice so that we
could all get the therapy. You know, you get it
and we get it, and to me, the music's the
best therapy. And I can't wait to go see my therapist.
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That Welcome to Rockville.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
Oh yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Thank you for being on the Adventures of pipe Man,
and we'll see you soon in Daytona.
Speaker 6 (49:21):
Absolutely, we'll see you there.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man
on w for CUI Radio.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Can you feel so good? This is the pipe Man
here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio.
And this is my last interview before I get on
the road. And I have to drive three hours over
to the west coast of Florida for an Alice Cooper show,
and then drive three hours back and then tomorrow morning
(00:48):
three and a half hours up to Daytona four one
of my favorite festivals of the whole year. Welcome to Rockville,
and I have with us our guest who it's close.
My real name is Dean, and he's Dion. Sometimes people
call me that too, because I don't know it's an a.
It shouldn't be Deon.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah, you and me both I you know, at Starbucks
or whatever all the time. You know, it's I get,
I get, I get. I go from Dion to Dean
for a whole lot of times, so I must. And
I'm glad to hear it's a two way street and
it doesn't just happen to me.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, see, like maybe we're doppel Gigger's or something.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, there go look alike.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
But yeah, your band's bad ass. Amberlin and you're gonna
be Welcome to Rockville, which is even more badass. Have
you played Welcome to Rockville before? I know you've played
the other Danny Wimmer festivals, but have you played this one.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
We have not, which is funny just because you know,
we are a Florida band. We're just directly west across
the coast, you know, on the Gulf and in the
Tampa Bay area, so it's it's funny that we have
not played Rockville yet. So we're pretty excited to, you know,
make our debut this year.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
I think the most exciting thing is is I don't
even know if you notice yet, but you're gonna be
able to drive on the speedway to get to uh
wherever you got to go.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, that'll be fun. I've actually done that before. I
grew up, going to Turkey Rod run over in daytime.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Next.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
My family was big into the hot rods, so I
was I've been able to get out there on the
speedway and they because they do this photo op at
the speedway where you can take your picture on like
not on one of the banks obviously because like a
forty five degree angle, but you know, like one of
going into one of the turns. It says Daytona, USA
on the on the wall, so they let you park
your car in front of that and take a picture
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and everything. So it's pretty fun experience. I mean, it's
a it's an impressive, uh track. I mean, and the
history behind it and everything, you know, obviously is really cool.
So you know, growing up, growing up, just you know,
with all this stuff car related and watching NASCAR and
things like that, it's it's always cool to make the
trip over there. So it's even double cool that we
(03:01):
get to play there this year.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, you know, it's funny too because I do all
the Danny Wimmer festivals. I do festivals all over the US,
UK and Europe, and I got excited this year because
I'm actually going to be interviewing the NASCAR driver, Like
so that's new. That's different. You know. It's like it's
like my youngest story. She'll ask me a lot before festivals,
(03:26):
like are you excited, And I'm like, well, I don't
know if excited it's the word. I love doing it,
but when you do it every weekend, I don't know
if exciting is the appropriate word. But then there's moments
like that that, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
I mean that'll be different, you know for sure if
you're used to I'm sure you know, if you're used
to interviewing musicians and then going from that to uh,
you know, the world of racing, which we we got it.
We got to uh hang out with a few guys
that were affiliated with NASCAR last year on tour when
we were up and Charlotte, since right down the road
(03:58):
is like the home of NASCAR, you know, and so
one of our crew guys has a he's got a
friend that he's the guy that basically he paints all
the driver's helmets. So he took us out to this
like competitive go kart track and we were racing with
a few of the uh next tail or not next
tell what is it? Next tells they've been the funk
(04:19):
for years. Anyways, we're you know, we were racing with
a few of the uh you know, kind of like
drivers from like the couple of steps you know below
uh you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Know, uh the main drivers but next uh stuffing like that.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
There was there's a couple of I don't know, I
don't know the.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, I'm not I obviously don't keep up with it anymore.
But yeah, uh, we uh, you know, we got to
drive with a few of the drivers, which was really
fun with this go kart track, and then and then
Dale Junior came out to say hi, which was crazy.
I mean, you know, I grew up watching Dale Earnhardt
senior race and was watching the race win he you know,
(05:00):
had his unfortunate accident, and of course you know watching
Dale Junior drive as well was you know, a part
of growing up. So it was really cool to meet
him and you know, got to take a picture with
him and stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
So it was really cool.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
But it's really just interesting getting a little insight into
that world there because I mean it's all it's not
like you know, the NFL or whatever where you know,
all the teams are spread across the US, you know,
right NASCAR, you you basically are in that area. So
it's like when they say it's the home of NASCAR,
that's because that's where like every team is just you know,
most of the drivers live there. So just a weird
(05:37):
world to get some insight into. So that was really fun.
I'm always interested because you know, having dialogue with people
that you know, they asked a lot of questions about
you know, what it's like being in a touring band
and things like that, and then I get I get
just as excited, like ask him about like, well, what's it.
What's it like with like, you know, working on the
you know, the NASCAR circuit. You know, it's you know,
(05:59):
because you got all these different levels. You know, people
start on like competitive go carts, and they'll go up
to like the sprint cars and like you know, then
they're driving the trucks and then it's just it's just
such an interesting world to me. So it's it's cool
to Yeah, it's cool to meet people in different fields
like that that are doing really you know, interesting things.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You know. What I think is really cool too, is okay.
So hearing you say all those things, what came to
mind immediately is like, wow, that's pretty cool. A musician
fanboying out on NASCAR driver like it. It just makes
you like a normal person. Like people look at musicians
like like they're not normal people sometimes like we're only
(06:43):
going to be into music, right, you know, and like
you don't get like oh my god to somebody or whatever,
you know, and it just shows you're just like they are.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, I mean I think you know, it's uh everybody's
got their interest and you know, I and like I said,
even if I wasn't to Nascar, I would still be
enamored by the whole thing, right Just I you know,
I always like hearing like what it's like in different
industries or whatever, you know, like talk, you know, talking,
you know, when we've had shot music videos in the
(07:15):
past and we've had to hire actors, you know what,
one of our music videos years ago, we had a
couple of people that, you know, they were younger actors
that were trying to break in, you know, so they
were affordable for us. They you know, they weren't celebrities yet.
But it was just really interesting talking to them about,
you know, the world of acting as they're they're you know,
filming a music video for us. So it's yeah, like
(07:38):
I said, it's just cool meeting people in other fields
and like hearing what it takes to you know, be
competitive and make it in those in those other fields,
you know, because I mean I've been playing in bands
since I was fourteen years old, and you know, it's
just that's like just what I know, and so it's
it's super normal to me, but it may not seem
normal to somebody else and vice versa. But what's the
(08:00):
normal to them is like really intriguing to me, you know. Yeah,
So it's you know, and I'm just I'm a talker.
I like just talking to people and getting to know
them and everything. So it's it's always fun when it's
something you're actually interested in, you know, and you get
to hear some like you know, inside scoop on things
and whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, and it's like at that daytime speedway, it is
a trip because first year we were over there from Jacksonville,
I was looking at the wall and I'm like, it
does not look like that on TV. That wall looked scary,
okay in a person. In person, it's like, holy shit,
I couldn't even stand on that wall much. Let's drive it.
(08:38):
And then I joked around with Christine, who runs media
at Rockville, and I, you know, because I live in
South Florida and West bum Beach area. So I drove
my jeep up and I had my skateboard in the
jeep and I'm like hey, and I was just kidding,
but I was like, hey, do you think I'd lose
my media credential if I took my skateboard on the wall,
(09:00):
and it's like I was saying something my son like, yeah,
I wouldn't have done it till after the festival's over
because I can't break all my bones before doing interviews. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
We actually instituted a no skateboarding rule on one tour
because you know, if you the guys brought their skateboards
and like one of our crew guys almost dislocated his elbow,
you know, our guitarist Christian almost like twisted an ankle,
and I, your tour manager, was like.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
That's it. No more skateboards the rest of the tour.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's great. See I love stories like that. And speaking
of stories, okay, so let's go back to when you
were fourteen, because it's also interesting to me because my
grandson who's going to becoming a Rockville he just turned fifteen.
He is a musician and he's following my footsteps. Like
it's so funny. One day was a kid, next day
(09:54):
it's like, what do you want for your birthday? Oh,
I want a guitar. Okay, let's go and I want
the guitar. And then next time I see him, he's
got a battle vest on. I'm like, holy crap, he's
not my kid's kid. He's my kid, you know. And
but I asked him recently, I'm like, because he was
trying to start a band and I'm like, so, how's
(10:15):
it going with that? And he's like, I've been really
found to write people, like he's struggling to find the
people to have a band with. So tell us about
your story going way back when how that happened.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's I was.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Fortunate my brother, my older brother, he when we were young,
we started my dad had a drum set.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
My dad was a drummer.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
And for an end of year minor league baseball party
one year, a couple of the dads got together and
there's one that played guitar and sang one that played bass,
and they knew my dad played drums. And my dad
was like, oh, I'll just go pick up a secondhand
drum kit, you know, and for the party, you know,
like at a pawnshop or something. He actually he ended
(10:59):
up which I don't know, I don't know what he
paid for it. You know, it was only like twelve
but uh, he he ended up getting this gold Slingerland jazz.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Kit that was, you know, just beautiful. It was.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
It's like it wasn't he didn't just buy some cheap
drum set. He founded, you know, a drum set for
like a decent price. I'm you know, I'm sure my
mom wasn't happy about it, but uh but you know
he so we from that point on after he after
they did the end of the year party, we had
a drum set in the house.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So my brother and I would fight over who could
play it.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
And and eventually I got sick of him and pushing
me off because I was the young I was the
little brother. So I decided I wanted to try and
play guitar or something. Well, a kid down the street
already played guitar, so we decided we were going to
start a band. I needed to play bass, so I, uh,
you know, I had some money saved up from mowing
lawns and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Around the neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
And I went and bought for like one hundred and
twenty bucks, bought out this cheap cruise bass and create
one ten little practice lamp, and you know, started taking
lessons and things like that, and and then you know,
the kid turned out, the kid down the street that
was a guitarist, he lost interest in music really quick.
(12:14):
He wanted to play at golf and baseball, you know.
So around that time, we're you know, we're in high
school and uh, you know, about about fourteen years old,
and my brother meets this guy, uh named DJ at
a summer school, you know, and they start, you know,
they find out that they have the same interest in
music and they like a lot of the same bands.
(12:37):
So uh, you know, turn it turns out DJ's guitarists
and sing a little bit. So we just got together,
my and my in one of our bedrooms one day
and you know, started trying to write some songs and
that became my first band. Played my first show when
I was like fourteen or fifteen, shortly after that, and
(12:57):
it seemed like a massive show to me at the time.
It we I mean we I think we advertised for
like months for it, you know, around around our schools
and everything, and but there was maybe fifty people there.
I'm sure, but you know, it's for kids.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
First show.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It just seemed it seemed that like the place was slammed,
you know, and it was really cool, and I was
just hooked after that. I just wanted to keep these shows,
That's all I wanted, you know, So, uh, you know,
just fast forward a few years later, you kind of
cycle went out with different musicians, you know that you
find here and there, and you know, some guys can
stick with it, some guys.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Can't, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
And I.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Finally ended up playing with Joey, who's our guitarist and
Amber Wind. He and I met at a comic shop
one day one of our ur We had a mutual
friend that ended up ditching us to go do drugs.
So Joey j always like, hey, man, I went nearby.
You want to run to my house real quick?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I'm like sure. We walk into his Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
We walk into his bedroom and he's not only got
you know, he's got like all was punk rock and
metal vinyl, you know, by sitting by his record player
and he's got an epiphone, West Paul sitting by his band.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I'm like, you play guitar? He's like yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
He was like, do you know when you know effect songs?
You know, like the first band of the Product of Mind.
He like, he immediately started playing. I think it was
like sticking in my eye or something like that, you know,
and just just crazy. You know, well, not a lot
of kids when you know, at fifteen, sixteen years old,
not a lot of kids could you know, pull off
no effects songs are let alone play the lead, you know,
playing lf Haf's leads. So so it was really cool.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We bonded really quickly.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
And at that time, I was already kind of I
was playing in a couple of bands, just with different people,
and I was just starting to play in a band
with a friend of mine named.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Stephen, who later on became the singer of Amberwin.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
So it's just kind of a it took years, I think,
you know, a couple of years to find the right people,
and you know, I was just fortunate that in my small.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Town and Winter him and there were like minded.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Musicians who were into the same type of music, and
you know, and we were able to start a band
in high school.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And then you know, through playing.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Over the years and like Lake Wind and Tampa and
Saint Pete, we met who are now drummer Nate, you know,
by playing with his band that he was in at
the time with his brother. So yeah, it's just a
weird journey, I would I was talking to some good
friends of mine that live in Kansas City and they
had they have they have a fifteen year old son
(15:28):
named River who he's been playing drums for a few
years now, and he's at the point where he really
wants to start a band. You know, he wants to
be the next Taylor Hawkins. He's he idolizes Taylor Hawkins
and the food Fighters, you know, and he uh, he's
he's having the same issue. You know, he's just not
finding those that the right group of kids that share
(15:49):
his you know, his interest in the same type of music,
or they even want to you know that play instruments
or want to be in a band. So, you know,
I was just trying to I was just trying to
encourage you, my stun to talk to him about it.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's like you say, just give a time, keep practicing.
You're gonna find the right guys. You know.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's my viewpoint is is like I'm gonna have my
grandson listen to this, because all of that led to
us having this talk about Welcome to Rockville.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So, you know, let's you are. Every band goes through it.
You go through people you want to play with, you
don't want to play with, people, leave people do things,
you know, but I do have a based on what
happened with you. I have a trivia question for you,
all right, who is one of the greatest bassist ever
(16:35):
that never wanted to be a bassist, was a guitar
player and basically drew the short straw and had to
play bass.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Uh me, I'm just kidding. That's funny because that is
how I started playing bass. But I wouln't consider myself
the best bass player.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
That's why I asked the question. Because of that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Ah geez, I don't think I know that one.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I mean, I can think I could think of a
lot of people I would consider to be, you know,
great bass players, like you know, obviously Geddy Wee from
Rush is one of the greatest of all time. But
I think he was always a bass player.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, uh, I don't know. You got me, stump. Who
is it?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Paul McCartney.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh, that makes sense because all three.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Of them played guitar. And now if you listen to
the Beatles songs, you hear his bass because I always
loved the Beatles, but I never really heard till I
knew that the influence because he plays it like a guitar.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah he he you know, yeah, it's the way he
structures his way, he structures his bass lines.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Or yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I mean it makes sense really think about it. So
that's that's interesting. I mean, I guess that should have
been kind of obvious, you know, it's since he you know,
obviously he's well versed in guitar.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Right, But yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
You know, it is funny, I think because I am
a bit of a I feel like an anomaly in
the sense that I literally only know how to play bass.
I know a little bit of guitar I've picked up
over the years, you know, playing like some mi bar
chords and open chords and things like that, you know,
but I started on the bass. I took lessons for
the bass, I you know, because there's so many bands
(18:13):
that the bass player is a guitarist. They just there's
just nobody in town that played bass. So somebody went, okay,
I'll play.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Bass, you know, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
So yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I think a lot of times when I do meet
people that are purely bass players and that's the instrument
that they started. Like Nick from Bayside is a guy
like that. He and I share a lot in common
in that respect. We're both just bass players.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
That's what we are. It's what we do.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
There it is and then you're needed. People don't realize
how much of a difference having bass in a song means,
you know.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, I mean I think I have a friend who's
a ripping guitar player. He's a really good blues player
named Chris Walker. And it's funny. He got asked to
fill in on a bass for some band that was
kind of doing like a little like there was like
this blues band and they were doing like a reunion,
but their bass player wasn't around anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
So they asked Chris.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
If he could fill in on bass, and he's like, I
guess so, And he calls me up and ask if
he could borrow.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
A bass, and so I lent him.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
I lent him a Mustang bass to play, and after
the gig he was like, man that He's like, I
almost wanted to start playing bass from here on now.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
He's like that was so much fun.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Wow, that's cool.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I was like, I was like, I know, I was
like I enjoy it, you know, And that may not
be the most glamorous of instruments, but uh, it's you know,
it's it's like you said, it's very much needed and
you know, you can have a lot of fun playing bass.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
You really can't. And then and I have for many years.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
There you go, Now, what else do you guys got
going on after Rockville that people need to look out for?
Tell people I also connecting with you socials on the
web and all that.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Oh man, we're about to get busy. We Uh So
we played Rockville on the seventh, and then we come
home for just a few days and on the thirteenth
we head out to start four and a half week
headline tour. Where we are we're kind of doing a
celebration tour of our second album, Never Take Friendship Personal.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
We did the first leg last year.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
We're doing a second leg this year of a lot
of the cities, you know, the areas that we didn't
get to hit last year. So yeah, we're gonna be
We get a couple of days to rest between the two,
you know, the two things. But we we hit the
road literally on the thirteenth, drive up, starting the tour
in dustin, Florida, and then we just take it from there.
So we're really excited to get back out on tour
(20:36):
and uh, you know, rock out some fans and hang
out and say hi.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
To everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Nice. Well, I'll have to tell my daughter, who's going
to be at Rockville to go to your set because
she lives near Dustin. Oh nice, and maybe she'll show
up to your show because I don't even know if
she she knows you your band yet. You know, I'm
sure she probably does, but maybe who knows? Uh, So
I'm gonna tell her. Yet, you gotta go to You
(21:03):
gotta go to the set and check it out, so
maybe you want to go near you. And you know,
it's funny you mentioned about no effects because when I
took my grandson to play and buy that guitar, I
didn't know he knew how to play array and he
wrote guitar senter and pulled the guitar down and started
playing Green Day. I'm like, holy shit, how do you
know how to do that? You know? So there it is.
(21:25):
You know, I love it, and I love that You're
gonna be at Rockville. It's going to be badass, And
thank you for being on the Adventures of Payment.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Absolutely, thank you for having me, and maybe we'll run
each other on run into each other on Thursday or something.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
There you go. Yeah, and if you're in the media area,
just come say hi or you know, if I see you, we.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Actually will be so try and keep an eye out
for you. We do know we have a couple of
on side interviews in the afternoon after we play. So yeah,
maybe we maybe we'll run into each other.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
All right, sounds good. Let's make it a point and
anything you need, all.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Right, Thanks for having me, man, you got it.
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Speaker 7 (23:37):
Hi, you haven't too cruz wow.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
For you your room.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm very excited
because the Pipe Man Radio Tour is starting again today.
We've been off for about a month. I got a
little seclusion and from the world for a month and
now we're ready to rock and roll again. And our
(24:25):
second stop, like tonight, we're going I'm going to Alice
Cooper on the other side of the state. But then
tomorrow is Welcome to Rockville, one of my favorite Danny
Wimmer festivals. And this will be the first interview of
the forda festival for a band that is playing tomorrow
(24:48):
and man they are killers. So let's welcome to the show.
Omar from Taking By Times. How are you?
Speaker 6 (24:55):
What's up doing great? You know we're out here driving
currently on the way to Florida.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Just it's about an eighteen hour drive twenty with stops,
you know, speed limit like with an RB you can't
drive seventy five. We gotta do a like sixty five.
So you know, we're we've been driving. It'll be a
total like two days like driving and taking our time.
You know, we're not trying to you know, drive sleep deprived,
you know, trying to take our time.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah, no doubt. And listen. Unlucky for you that the
two states you gotta go in are like the two
hardest states to drive through.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
It's like once you get outside of Texas, those little states,
you're like, oh, that's easy. That's why I like about
that road trip. Once you get out of like Texas,
then it's like, oh, it's only a few hours to
get out of state. That's cool, you know. And yeah, yeah,
and Texas is brutal to drive through too because there's
so many different geographics. Florida is a little different. It
(25:53):
looks exactly the same. It's flat the whole thing. But
I remember the stupidest thing I ever did was I
was driving to get to La through Texas and I
I should have stopped at El Paso. It was getting
dark and I was over driving through Texas, so I'm like,
fuck it, I'm gonna keep going. And I drove from
(26:16):
that in the dark, from El Paso to San Antonio.
That is like one of the most brutal drives. I
couldn't even imagine doing an RV, by the way, because
I was doing it in a car, and like those
crosswinds were brutal. Like I remember my car like moved
over like a lane and I'm like, oh my god,
(26:39):
I'm gonna go off the cliff because the wind was
so strong. I couldn't even imagine driving RV under those conditions.
Speaker 7 (26:48):
Yeah, you gotta, you gotta drive, I believe it. It's slower,
Like when we're trying back to Chicago there was like
a high wind morning. It's just gotta be like careful.
You don't really try to pass anyone, and you try
to keep on space. Yeah, it is, it is. It
can be scary. I think our scariest drive lately was
we said a tour in March and we were driving,
(27:09):
I believe, from Phoenix to San Diego and there's a
lot of oh yeah, up and down and on an RV,
you know, they're going up your transmission. It's just you know,
it's pushing and super loud and you're going like barely
fifty you know, but yeah, it was kind of wild.
You'd see like down the side of the window and
(27:30):
it's like steep steep cliff right.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
And I love talking about this because I think the
listeners don't really get all you have to go through
as a band just to get to a gig like
this drive we're talking about. Your taket is for one
gig so far, you know, it doesn't count the rest
of your tour. That's just one stop on the tour,
like and I don't think people even imagine, like, and
(27:58):
then you go perform and some times you may not
have had rest, like you got there just in time,
whatever the reason, traffic, weather, and then you're loading in
and playing and I think people in the audience like
they can't even gef of that, you.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Know, yeah, they don't see it.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Sometimes you're on stage and you might have just barely
had a chance to like take a breath.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
You know.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Right, maybe you've got to the venulate and you're loading
in all day and you're pushing cases and you're barely
have time to get ready. You're probably sweaty, you know,
you're not warmed up. I've had those shows sometimes who
are like I have to walk on stage without warming up.
I feel not ready, but it's like it's rocking road.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
You got to get up there and do it, you know,
But then you get in the zone once you're on
stage and it's time to perform, Like you get in
the zone and then it's almost like I know the
way I am. I don't even give my self permission
to feel like shit until.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Absolutely not until after.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
You know, then I can die, okay, But you get
it it so like you don't even notice, and you're
like it's almost like an add of body experience, right, yeah.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, when you're on stage, like everything
just goes blank, like I don't know, It's like you
go into this second I don't know a state of
mine or something, and I just I hardly remember what
goes on on stage. I feel like something else takes
over and I just black out most of the time,
you know. I try to come back and realize what's
(29:34):
going on, but usually you black out, and like those
thirty forty minutes feel like five ten.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Sometimes it feel longer.
Speaker 7 (29:42):
If the show's like, you know, dragging those shows, you're like, God,
let it end already, Like if you're not having a
good show, like if my voice is gone, like oh god,
I'm out here sucking, you know, but you know I don't.
I'll never show it, you know, I'm never exist stage.
I'll just I'll just try my best delivery.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
It's just even like like people think that musicians are
like the biggest extroverts because they get up on stage
and do that. It's like the exact opposite, and you
kind of do black out in the sense of, you know,
it's easier to like pretend like you're just up there
by yourself.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7 (30:25):
It's easier to get lost, especially when you have like
the music going on. It's it's easier to feel at home.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Yeah, exactly. So tell me, Okay, you're gonna be at
Welcome to Rockville, obviously, but tell me about the Back
to Hell tour. I love the name of that tour.
I think we're living that in real life right now.
I think everybody in the world is on the Back
to Hell tour.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Yeah, then we all are, especially with the weather and
well it hasn't been too bad lay but it's about
to get hot again.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Yeah, back to Hell tor.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
I mean, it's just named after one of our songs
that came out on our last album back in October,
what's it called.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
We had a two legs of it.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
We had originally just the you know, the run on
February and March, and then we got the offer to
do Welcome to Rockville, and it was very close to
that tour, but just far enough where it's like it's
got to be a different lineup anyways.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
But we were like, okay, well, let's just make it
the leg two of uh, you know, the Back to
Hell tour.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
I like the art, I like the you know behind
the song, you know, I like the song a lot,
So we just saturday make it the leg two and yeah,
it's been great shows. It's actually been our biggest shows
we've ever played. All the shows have.
Speaker 6 (31:46):
Been very successful, and you know, every.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
All the bands have been taking care of all the
locals that are playing the shows were stoked on you know,
the draws.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
All the venues have been stoked in the draws, you know,
a lot of it. It was a surprise, you know.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
We played some these venues before, and some of these
shows for the longest time, we've played to like less
than twenty people, and it's like, I don't know if
fans know that, but it's like if a venue gets
twenty people, it's like you probably might not even break even.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
You're probably losing money on that show.
Speaker 7 (32:14):
No, especially for small upcoming venues, it's like they want
to support up and becoming artists, and it's like, you know,
for them to give us a shot, some of them
multiple times to where it finally clicks, it's like we're
grateful they give us a shot, but yeah, this time
finally around. Like all the shows have been great and
really no complaints. Has probably been the best tour I've
ever done. And then to do it look too of it.
(32:36):
You know, I just felt right there you go.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
And you know, it's funny with your debut album, Ghost Vibrations,
I think it would be perfect if you were playing
Incarceration another Danny Wimmer festival because I don't know if
you know where what the venue is, but it's the
Shawshank Prison, but it's a real prison that's shut down
and it is haunted it and they do, like at
(33:02):
the festival, they do the haunted tours, but you don't
know when you're going on this tour whether it's one
of the people working being a character trying to scare you,
or if it is a real like, oh my god,
I remember I was interviewing somebody there, okay, and he
(33:24):
was talking about the uh he filmed the video and
there was a torture room in that prison and he
came out with scratches all over his body.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Shot.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Oh my god. So like, what perfect place that would
be a perfect place to film the video for one
of your songs on Ghost Vibrations.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Yeah, right, absolute.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
So tell take me back a little bit. What was
that first moment in your life that you kind of
realized that this is what you wanted to do, that
this was your passion.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
And I've had multiple ones of those, for sure, Like
I could probably name a couple of handful of them,
but I think the first one, Man, that's hard. I
think you know, when I was a kid, I just
really liked playing guitar hero and I was probably like,
you know, six years old, and then by the time
I was ten, I picked up a guitar. And I
think just watching like my chem of a romance and
(34:22):
like Lincoln Park, you know, which Mike Kem's actually playing
rock Feld.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
You know, I wish I could be there Sunday, but
you know, we gotta go play other shows.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I'll be I'll be in the pit for you right on.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Thank you, so just to be end of the same
umbrellas and it's as you know, it's a really big honor.
But anyways, Yeah, there's been mostile moments in life where
I think I really wanted this. It's probably the first
one was like picking up guitar, like a ten eleven
years old. My grandpa was a musician. He was also
a singer guitarist, and uh, what's it called. I think
(34:54):
summer in my childhood just kind of click, you know.
I picked it up pretty fast. I was in band
and when I was in middle school, I only lost
it one semester, but I ended up being like first
chair playing French Word and I just didn't I wasn't
into it. I got a guitar that Christmas I got
out and then they were like, can you please join
(35:15):
the band back? Like you're really good, I promise you're
really talented, Like you're great at this, you should be
in band, and like no, I'm gonna play guitar, and
like I just I just kind of knew at like
eleven years old that this is what I wanted. So like,
even like the band directors, no, you should play French
really talented, I'm like, I get it, but I want
to play guitar.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So and then you know what I love about that
story is Okay, So I'm a metal head all my
life and I like people. A lot of people at
my age troop I would talk to and they're like, well,
I used to like metal And my answer to them
is no, you didn't, cause nobody that is truly a
metal head says I used to. Like now, it's not
(35:56):
like other genres like once a metal head, always a
metal head, no matter when it started. And that's the
same example with you. And I also love about Guitar
Hero because I'm a gamer, and you know, when I
was trying to play guitar, there was no Guitar Hero
because video games weren't that good then, And I think
(36:21):
that would have helped me be better at guitar, like
and make it more fun because you know, I was
learning guitar, I had to do scales every single lesson
and I'm like, this is boring, you know, So if
I was playing like a video game, then it would
have excited me more. So I think that's a that's
a cool thing. Like some people may give crap about
(36:44):
oh Guitar Hero, but I think it does teach you
really before you even pick up the guitar, and you're
a proof of that.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I mean my right hand got really solid because you know,
I just learned rhythm and like I just took that,
you know, the left hand, yeah, you know, you're just here,
but like your fingers get fast and you get the
kind of conditioned too, But like your right hand is
really where it helps because you know, you just stay
in rhythm. And so yeah, it's crazy how playing lots
of Guitar Hero as a kid really just easily translated
to the guitar.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, exactly. Now I have a question because it's hard
for me to tell on the screen, but is that
necklace your logo?
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Yes, it is I.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Thought it was, but I couldn't see the details that far,
but I was pretty sure it was. As that is
freaking cool. Now do you sell that as birch?
Speaker 6 (37:32):
No, we don't, but we we should figure it out.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
We have key chains, that's like, I saw the key chains.
They're cool as hell.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Yeah, thank you, but I gotta figure this out.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
I just don't know what kind of you know, necklace
that one, you know, but I we definitely gotta get
it sorted.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
I think the next you know, big headliners where we do,
we definitely have these out on the road.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
There you go, that would be cool. You could even
just do the charm and then if you find the
cool neck because it is like it's a cool logo,
but it does make a cool necklace. Like I'm looking
at you wearing a necklace, and I'm like, I would
wear that, you know, it'd be kind of like a
Misfits thing. I wouldn't even care what your band sounded like.
(38:17):
I just want to wear the logo.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Thank you man.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Yeah, yeah, I'm really proud of it. I think it's great.
It's like a hero symbol or something, you know.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, totally totally. Yeah, it makes you look like a superhero. Right, yeah,
all right, So what one story crazy, good or bad?
In all the years you've been doing music and doing
shows and stuff, what sticks out in your mind the
(38:47):
most that you would talk about like years down the road,
like any story, Yeah, like anything that's happened in the
musical journey of the band.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
You know, there's there's been multiple Uh.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
There was like this one time where we flew out
our producer to San Antonio because we weren't done with
our with the songs you're trying. So we were in Lousll, Kentucky,
and then we flew him to San Antonio for like
two days because he had a gig in Austin, Texas.
He was like working sound some gig and he's not
far so we picked him up from Austin about an
(39:28):
hour drive. Uh, stay with us a couple of days.
We just moved his flight from San Antonio to you know,
maybe it was just worked. Anyways, we finished, we wrapped
up tracking everything, and.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
At night we were about to head out because Jack.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Mhm, yeah, yeah, yeah, you are breaking up.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
All right, Okay, yeah mhmm, you guys.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Check still breaking up a little bit. I can hear
partially and my engineer will edit this part out, so
don't worry. Sorry, Okay, go.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
See right on.
Speaker 7 (40:58):
So yeah, this one time we were tracking some songs
for a couple of singles back in like I think
twenty and uh we were over in Louisville, Kentucky and
flower producer out to set because we already had our
flights going back home, but he had a gig in Austin,
(41:20):
so it kind of worked out in our favor.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
So anyways, we.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
Picked him up from Austin once he finished this gig.
He came for a couple of days and we finished
tracking the songs that we needed to finish. And uh
so my bassis, Jack and I were actually are from
the Little Rato, Texas, which about two hours and a
half south of San Antonio. We finished the Antonio like
(41:55):
an eleven pm.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
He saw me there.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
Your coache. Hello, Yeah, I can hear you now you
were kind yeah heard heard.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
So yeah, anyways, we finished the studio session like around
eleven pm where we're at Jaden's house and like I said,
Jack and I we have to drive two hours and
a half. Right up outside we're sitting, we're si and
then we car drive by like the house. They're driving
(42:37):
kind of slow. It's like four dudes in the car,
and it just kind of feels weird. And and literally
they turn around, circle back, and like instantly they start speeting,
and like twelve shots get fired and we obviously fight
or flight mound. We just we just run back into
the house instantly or like and our producers still inside
(42:57):
of the house and he's like, what's the guys you're
back inside.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
I was like, did you not hear that? And he's like, no,
what happened?
Speaker 7 (43:04):
Like, dude, there's like gunshots that could get get down,
Like what the heck, you know, And and he just
ended up staying inside the house and we ended up
going home that night.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
So that was like one of the scarier stories.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you brought up because bands go
through scary crap like that and you don't even realize
that what can happen no matter what on the road
or what have you. And you know, like, uh, I know,
there's been band members that have been mugged, attacked or
(43:40):
carjacked all that, and these are the things that you
guys go through to give us some great music.
Speaker 7 (43:48):
What's insane? Speaking of carjacking, we have a music video
for Go Sebrations. I'm like driving a car in the video.
So that car we actually ended up borrowing. We were
supposed to use Jaden's at the time because he had
like a he had like a Dodge, like a Challenger
or a Chargers and that he was like a skatpack Dodge,
really nice car. Literally, I think the day before the
(44:10):
videos shoot where we were gonna take the car out,
it got stolen.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Off this front like driveway.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (44:17):
They just took it.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
Like his Mom's like, hey, Jadeen, I thought you left
the store or something, and he's like, no, I'm right
here by.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
What's up. He's like I heard your cards or nothing.
I thought you left. He's like no, and they go
outside and they just see a windshield on the floor.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
There's no crap.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
This is like the day before we were supposed to
film the music videos. You're like, well, we have no
car for the video.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Yeah, So speaking of carjacking, that's also happened.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
It is amazing, Like I love hearing stuff like this
because I like when the audience finds out what it's
really like behind the scenes, because they look at musicians
and they think, oh, you got the dream li and
in some ways you do, you know, but there's it's
like every person. Every person has their trials and tribulations,
and musicians are no different. And to me, musicians are
(45:13):
the hardest working people there is. So if they want
to listen to my show, they need to go to
your merch store and buy some merch.
Speaker 6 (45:22):
Oh, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
So tell everybody how they can check you guys out
on socials on the web and check out all your merch.
Speaker 7 (45:32):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean you can find us mostly on socials,
on Instagram and TikTok that's usually most active, and streaming stream.
Speaker 6 (45:39):
Us anywhere they stream.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
You know, our security puts us on most platforms as possible,
but obviously you know the big big ones. You can
find us in Spotify, Apple Music, and yeah, just to
keep up with us, we always got stuff. And then
our merch store you can go to takemtidespan dot com.
That's where we have any exclusive drops or any leftover
tour merch that we didn't sell on tour, So in
(46:02):
case you missed something or miss the show, you can always.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
Grab it there too.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Nice and you know it's funny you mentioned Apple Music,
and I normally like, before I do interviews, I'll just
while I'm like getting ready, I'll just go to Apple
Music and turn on the band's music to kind of
get in the zone. And Apple Music has a new
update now. I don't even know if you know. I
just saw it for the first time today and it
(46:28):
told me all your tour dates, including welcome to Rockville.
Speaker 7 (46:31):
Dude, that's awesome. I've not updated my phone in like
a year, so because I don't trust it.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I don't blame It's cool, man.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Yeah, I was like, that's really cool for bands because
like you go on there and you go to your
page and looks similar to normal, but then there's a
place at the top to click on for the tour dates.
Speaker 6 (46:53):
So that's so cool.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
I got to give kudos to Apple for doing that
for you guys.
Speaker 6 (46:58):
Yeah, you know, Apple's really great.
Speaker 7 (46:59):
They they pay better than most other streaming platforms, and
the quality on there is like some of the best,
you know.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
So I'm so glad to hear that they pay you
guys better. Because I don't use Spotify, like I'll use
it for certain things like when I do the festivals,
I create playlist of all the interviews on Spotify, but
not for the music for the podcast. But I hate
that they don't pay you guys. So the fact that
Apple pays you better, kudos to them, because even in
(47:32):
my industry now with streaming and everything else, there's so
many of my competitors that like, don't get licensed, don't
pay royalties, And I'll say shit to them, because I'm licensed.
I pay a lot of money to be licensed. Pay
royalties because you guys deserve to get paid. And I'll
ask them like about them, like you know, and they'll say, well,
they should just want me to play their music, Like, no,
(47:55):
do you work for free?
Speaker 5 (47:57):
You know?
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Of course, yeah, you do want them to play your music.
But you know you're doing this for a living, so
you need to be able to eat. I'm not talking
about buying a ferrari. We're talking about this.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
You're you're not making a lot of money in this business.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
You're exactly unless you're the top one percent, then you
know you're probably making a good living. But even like
the bands that are massive selling a thousand tickets to night,
they're still just living.
Speaker 6 (48:24):
You know, you're probably better having off on normal nine
to five.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
In terms of money no doubt, no doubt so. And
that's why musicians have passion for what they do because
you're not doing it for the money. You're certainly not
doing to become a rock star, because that doesn't even
exist anymore. You know, you're doing it because you have
a passion for music, and music is the best surfy.
(48:49):
So I do thank you for making that, you know,
and making music and making that sacrifice so that we
could all get the therapy. You know, you get it
and we get it, and to me, the music's the
best therapy. And I can't wait to go see my therapist.
(49:10):
That Welcome to Rockville.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
Oh yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Thank you for being on the Adventures of pipe Man,
and we'll see you soon in Daytona.
Speaker 6 (49:21):
Absolutely, we'll see you there.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man
on w for CUI Radio.
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