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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you love.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Then to the censure Wow, cra you you.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
This is pipe Man here on the Avengers pipe Man
W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with our
next guest, uh Sean from Ingested.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
How are you?
Speaker 5 (00:41):
I'm good man.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Uh are you? Like by your tour tour bus?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
It looks like you're like about ready to do a
show and you're here for this interview pretty much?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, I mean we've got we've got boss calling like
thirty minutes. Then we go ahead to the venue and
then we load and then start the day.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Basically nice.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Nice, So I'm very interested to begin with that. There
is a song that almost didn't make the album and
now it's like your go to song. Tell us the
story behind that and how that happened.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Are you talking specifically about Ulsper Trade, Yes, sir, Yeah,
I mean we kind of arranged to do about eight
or eight or nine songs for the album, and then
we've found ourselves having some extra time, we thought, why
not just record you know, I had one in the
back pocket and drew it.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
One in the back pocket.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
We'll just record these at the end of the session
and maybe we could just extend you know, once the
album comes out and six months later we've got two
singles to release, blah blah blah. But we found ourselves.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Looking at the sequence and listening to the sequence.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Of the album and something was missing and also betrayed
slotted in perfectly, and there you go. It ended up
being a ten track album instead of eight or.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Nice. And so.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I think the Oaths portrayed song like it talks very
much about the crap.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
We're going through in the world right now. Is that
pretty spot on?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I mean, I didn't write that one. I drummer wrote
the lyrics of that one, so only he can specifically
tell you about that song. But I mean when I've
read it, I kind of get what you're saying, is,
you know, objectively kind of looks and seems that way.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, And like there is a lot of stuff to
write music about nowadays, like there's no shortage of things.
It kind of reminds me like we're back in the
eighties and writing the same crap, right Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, I mean there's only so many original lyrics and
riffs that you can do that that've not.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Really been done before. So I mean, I guess there's
some truth in.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Today and the world is you know, it's like on repeat.
The world's like on repeat, like history does repeat itself.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So yeah, in cycles, man, exactly, your music's pretty badass.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I want to know when it all started for you personally,
to know that this is what you wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I mean before I left high school, I was like
fifteen sixteen, and then they give you an interview with
a careers advice person, you know, they kind of like
try and set you up for life after school, and
they're like, what do you want to do? And I
was like, I want to be in a band, and
they kind of didn't take that any seriously, said, well,
you need something more.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Not everyone gonna make it in a band.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know, I don't know what it is pants araic
hime eraon you know, watching those their.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
DVDs and stuff. I was just like, this is what
I want to do.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And I think it's quite interesting that I set that
kind of not mission statement when.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I was fifteen.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You know, now I'm nearly fourteen and I'm still doing
the same thing. So I guess it works out.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
You know what that that tells you not to listen
to other people follow your own heart man, Yeah exactly.
So what what what was the feeling like that first
time that you got on stage and did this.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
Just nerves?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
I didn't take to the stage very well for the
first like a couple of years of the band.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I just felt nervous.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And but that the shows are really small anyway, It's
kind of felt insignificant, if you will. But you know,
obviously the band persevered and we managed to have opportunities
to play really big shows and you know, now it's
it's like another date.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Work, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, well, and I gotta say what you experienced.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
And that's why I asked that, because the listeners need
to know it that that's not so uncommon like most
musicians I've ever known in my life are like introverted
and or have.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Stage fright, if you're gonna call it stage fright.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah, for sure, everyone gets the nerves, you know, just
you can get your.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Own head in terms of trying to form you know,
don't fuck.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Up, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
So you know, it comes with experience. So the more
you do it, the more you get used to it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
But I mean, there are occasions where I still get
those nerves, those butterflies. Yeah, yeah, very often, but there
are occasions where you know, I'm still I still got
a feeling, even twenty years, twenty five years down the line.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I feel that because, like not I do this, but
I also do my ovational speaking, and anytime I turn
the mic on on stage or on radio or on podcasts,
right before I turn the mic on, I always have nervousness.
Like I've done over three thousand interviews. Still every time
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before I I'm like.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Oh, I hope I don't fuck this up. Oh I
don't do this, I don't do it.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But the minute that mic turns on, there's a switch
in my head like I'm in the zone, and it's
like I'm a different person.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Yeah, it's confidence. It comes with experience, like I said.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Before, Yeah, absolutely, And you know it makes sense like two,
when you're an early band and you're playing the small shows.
To me, it's way more nerve racking to play to
ten people.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Than it is to ten thousand.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I mean it's something like maybe so maybe true. I
suppose with ten people there's a lot of focus on
you and it's just those not small group of people.
But I think maybe you're right. And you know, you
can look over it and look at ten thousand people
and then you don't really see individual people.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
It's just it's just a crowded you know, do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Like where tee because you're looking at these specific people.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
But yeah, I think there's maybe a bit of truth
in it.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, and you have that focus of their eyes are
on you when there's this crowd of ten thousand, like
you don't really know that.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It just looks like one big crowd.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
It doesn't look like anything specific, you know.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And so tell us what.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We went behind this new album, how it may be
the same as in the past, but also different.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, I mean we went with a with an intent
to write something heavy and griovy, like much more.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
What we you know, what we did when we first started.
It was that youthful, kind of reckless attitude to writing
heavy music.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And I think over the years we've experimented a little bit,
We've got complacence and you kind of like start doing,
you know, different choices, and especially in the last two
albums that we did, and I just felt it felt
like it was time to a bit of a return
to form, if you will. So yeah, the intent was
to write some m of griovy and heavy and you know,
just a collection of songs that would be punishing live
in a live situation.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Nice. Where's your favorite place to play live ever? Do
you have one?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I mean there's certain cities that will stick out and
are always decent, but thick in a favor it will
be very difficult for me obviously, Like a hometown shows cool,
you know Manchester in the UK and London and the UK.
Weirdly enough, Edmonton in Canada has always been amazing. We've
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played there three times over the over the years and
each one's it has been insane. Yeah, typical place. It's
like la usually good up in Worcester up that way
was actually that was with the standout show from the
whole TLL to be honest with them. We came through
the Palladium a few about a week and a half
ago and two tours met up, so it was split
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over the two stages and we played the small room
and originally I was a bit disappointed we didn't get
to play the large room, but it worked out in
our favorite because you know, the fans upstairs and that's morroing.
We're going nuts, going absolute bananas. So yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yeah, I find that sometimes too.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Like I I do coverage at music festivals all over
the US, UK, Europe, and I was just doing one
recently called Hell's Heroes, and it had like the main stay,
a couple main stages, but that because it.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Was a club type place that had these.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Upstairs this upstairs small room, and that was where I
was spending a lot of my time because man, those
shows were insane.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
And how does it feel for you as an artist,
like you start playing the bigger gigs when you go
back to club shows, is it kind of like nostalgic
or more fun because you haven't done it in a while?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I mean, that's kind of normal for us playing a
small club show. I mean, big club shows are kind
of rare. It depends what sort of you know. I mean,
this tour has been fortunate. It's been some big, big
rooms and stuff. But I always remember, like like three
years ago we did a we did Lorna Shore in
the US, then Canimal Corps in Europe, and then at
the end of the year we did Lorna.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Show in Europe.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So I knew as soon as we got that first
Lona Show tour, and then we had those two to
followers like, this is going to be one of the biggest,
you know, things doing a long time.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
And it's funny how like you just get used to it.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You're playing you know, two thousand cat rooms, three thousand
cat rooms, and it almost got normal, which was weird.
And then obviously going back to a normal tour where
you know, some venues we should fill, it was like, oh, okay,
you know there's a there's like a eighty percent decrease
in in a in crowd here.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
But yeah, I mean, I'm we're used to that. That's
kind of our bread and butter is.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Those small club shows, and you know, when you get
the opportunity to a bigger show, it's always.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Cool and that's where you get your loyal fans anyway,
the smaller shows because they feel like so connected to
you because they are it.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Is an intimate setting.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So I know Brian Slago from way back from the
beginning of Metal Blade, and I love that here in
twenty twenty six, he's still keeping metal so relevant. How
do you like being on Metal Blade Records as an artist?
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Yeah, it's been really easier. I mean that the A
and R rep a Metal Blade at the time.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Who signed us was the X base player from the
Black Darley Mane, which we talked with sixteen years ago,
so that the conversation to get on the label was
very very simple. It was, you know, Metal Blade, we
can offer you this, we can provide this, Okay, let's go,
and that was it.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
That was It's that simple.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The thing about Metal Blade that was different from our
previous labels was the just the amount of people working
in the label. You know this there's someone to do
a certain job, like you know, wordsing, Like the smaller labels,
it's kind of one or two people do in all
of it. But you know, we had very specific people
to do specific jobs like it was. Yeah, it was
really impressive. And you know it's all been smooth since
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we've got one more one more album left on the
contract and you know, we'll see see what happens after that.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Nice Well.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
The one thing about Slay Gold too, it's a true
metal head. Like sometimes record labels you're dealing with, they
don't understand our genre of music, you know, and I
think it's important to have somebody that runs a label
to understand metal music and the musicians in metal music.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I don't want just some sup we're in idea with
no passion for what he was doing. But yeah, I've
been fortunate enough to meet Brian before. Very cool do,
very very passionate about music. Yeah, it's just a great dude,
all around man. So it is a privilege to work
underneath you know, he's label.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, when I was a teenager in the early eighties,
I would go to he was a record store clerk
at this place in the valley in La called Oz Records,
and you would that's when he started Metal Blade, and
so we would go in there and say, hey, you
gotta listen to this.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Hey, you gotta listen to it.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
And most of the bands I like today are because
of Brian Slagel, but also the brilliance of how he
promoted his bands on the label.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
You know, And he's a true he's not in it
for the business.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Like a few years ago, I saw him a thing
and I was like, man, that was brilliant what you
did years ago. Like if I think about now, he
goes that was just a record store clerk, Like he's
he's totally humble about it, but it's totally true. He
was just like a record store clerk that had a
passion for metal and saw that that industry was not
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being serviced.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
And now look at where we are today, and well.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Leo, I mean, they're one of the most prestigious labels around,
you know, I think one of the few labels are
still independent, you know before Yeah, everyone else sell the
soul to fucking big corporation. At least Mental Blade is
still doing it the way they do and it's my respect.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And what I love too is some of the bands
that started on Metal Blade and went and to the
other big labels ended up going back to Metal Blade
because when you play metal, I think you need that
type of label because then they understand you.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
You know, though you can you can be a massive
label and be a small fish and a big pundle
be it, you know, big fish in a small pond.
So you're going to get the attention if you if
you're a big bond and you go for a label
on an outplay, you're going to get the attention that
you want.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
So yeah, and they're not going to try and change
your music too. That's an earth thing.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I saw a lot of you know, record labels telling
bands how to play music.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
You know, I think.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Everybody has a spot like you're talking about before. But
leave the creativity to the musicians, is my viewpoint.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
So is there anything that you in all these years
of doing this that you haven't accomplished yet that is
in your sights as a goal that you want to
do somebody you want to play with, a tour, you
want to go on music, you want right, whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, there's always there's always goals and ever changing goals
and boocket lists kind of things, if you will. But
if we've still not done Japan really you know, Yeah,
It's been lined up like.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
A numerous times.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I was supposed to go before COVID and COVID hit
and then there was a visa issue. It's just like,
oh my god, are we ever going to go with
this play? So Japan's definitely something we want to do.
There's loads of bands I want to saw with that
I've never actually got on the road with.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
You.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
You can sity sites as high as you want, you
know what I mean. It's like I would like to
play with Pants.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
And Slay here and Slipknot.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
But you know, those goals are a little bit fantasy.
If you know what I mean is it's a fantasy idea.
It's not possible, but you know those those those are
sort of things you'd love to do. But yeah, there's
put the bands in the genre and have still to with.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
I mean, we've we'd.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Never go on the road with Whitechapple, which is another
metal played artist and you know, kind of a legendary band.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I'm the scene.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It's it's crazy that certain bands were just not managed
to get on the road with. So yeah, I'm always
always setting up going, have always got things I want
to do. So as long as you've got that fire
in your belly, that's kind of what keeps you.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Going right exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And I I've actually personally seen you like I do
all these festivals. I've personally seen you at Download and
at Bloodstock. Do you know how they described your set
at Bloodstock?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
No, please tell me. Blister blistering.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
That's the description of your set at Bloodstock. It's like
it says they did a blistering set at Bloodstock.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
That works, man, I like that. I like that a lot.
That's a great compliment, right, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Is there a festival that you guys have played that's
your favorite to play.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Oh, good question.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Healthfest is probably up. The health Fest was quite amazing
right time we did. Yeah, the first time we did
download was great. Yeah, there's been a few, but also
been I don't we've never been walking before, and that's
another goal I would like to like to be walking
down the road.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, you definitely have to do that festival for sure.
But he hew Fest, That's why I think that's my
favorite in the world.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And I do like a whole crapload of them all year.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
But hew Fest is like another animal, you know, it's
good it and just the what I love about it
is how it's decorated, how there's like hidden stages places
like you'll be walking back in the merch area and
there's like a stage on the roof somebody who's playing.
It's kind of cool. And then how they segregate the
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genres off of the other stages that are not the
main stages. Like I think that that is brilliant because
when you're into a specific genre, who wants to walk
back and forth through a festival that size like every
set so like you can you could be like I
remember just sitting there all day last year, was it
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last year? I think, and they had the thrash metal stage,
and I'm a told thrash mellow head, so I was
pretty much there the whole day, you.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Know, when I wasn't doing their reviews.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
And then before that, I remember, you know, I would
sit there the black metal and the death metal stages
or right next to each other. I'm like, oh, I
don't have to move. I can just stand right here,
you know. So it is kind of cool. And you know, Lemmy,
that's that's a scene on in and of itself, that
big sculpture of Lenny. It's pretty wild, and Lemmy, it's
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pretty wild. What what what would you say was your
favorite part of Hellfest?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You think?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I don't know if you I don't know if it's
changed because I've not been there for a few years now,
but just the catering area, which kind of overlooks the
main stages and you can just get a beer and
stand on the on the terrace and just watch, you know,
you just preese coach here or corn.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
And just like this is incredible. So yeah, I really
enjoyed that aspect of it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Obviously, obviously enjoy of playing in the tent was falling stuff,
but just the after show and be someone of the
terrorists watching the main stage is quite quite some special man.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
See that is pretty cool because most festivals that's not
where catering is. So it's like so many artist friends
of mine, it's like sometimes that they have to make
a choice or are they gonna eat or go catch
au set?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
So that's where that's perfect.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Is there anything else you want to tell the listeners
about you guys, about your tour, about denigration or anything
else you got going on the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, Kayson County is about to wrap up. You've got
three shows left. I guess you know, big shout after
this tour, it's been one of the books. And in
two months time we head out to her doing a
full Canadian tour with Angel Maker and District and the Goddess.
So if you're tuning into this and you want to
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come and see.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Us again, if any and you're in Canada, come check
us out.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Man, Well, I love your music.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I love the new album.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Everybody has to check it out and get it and
they also have to buy your merch because they can't
listen to my show. And let's say buy your merch.
That's the only way you get to the next gig.
People don't realize honestly.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Is that is literally the only way we make money
is people, the listeners and fans actually picking up merchandise.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
So so yeah, it means a lot more. I mean,
like you said, if.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Anyone's after merchandise, you can head up to ingested dot
com at UK and there are all the relevant links
to your territory, US, your Australia, et cetera, so it's
the best place to get it.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Nice well, thanks a lot for making us great music
and great therapy.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
And thanks for being on the Adventures of pain Now
I appreciate it man.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of plate Man
on w for CUI Radio.